Breaking: Ukrainian Journalist REVEALS Horrible Truths About Kiev-Regime | Vasyl Muravytskyi
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- The lie that Ukraine is defending democracy or standing up for "western values" has never been weaker. But now we are getting reports that not just journalistic publications critical of the Kiev-Regime are getting purged, ANYONE who dares to utter opinions not in line with the regime is getting persecuted, even for private conversations. Society is under total surveillance.
I’m talking to Vasyl Muravytskyi, a Ukrainian journalist who has been publishing highly critical reports about his government before and after the Euromaidan events back in 2014, for which he got in a lot of trouble. On 1 August 2017, he was arrested by Ukrainian law enforcement charged with high treason and spent 11 months in prison.
Vasyl now lives in Finland from where he is talking to us, assisted by a translator to help with the English.
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Calling Ukraine a democracy is like calling NATO a defensive alliance.
Give time and we will be arrested for criticism of NATO.
True, which is the reason why he shouldn't have moved to Finland.
@@Memovox he should have gone to Iceland/Greenland…Finland will be radioactive.
@@barrygyles2211 In the worst case scenario, so will Iceland and Greenland. The US has bases in Keflavik and Thule.
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Such a brave man. Unfortunately NATO is cowardly sacrificing Ukraine for its geopolitical goals of Western hegemony.
100% right.
And they fail so ridiculously horrible! Western Europe has NEVER since the Indoeuropeans had settled Europe ~4500 years ago, been so WEAK politically, militarily, diplomatically, economically, socially. EU/NATO voters/politicans are very quickly turning Europe into a permanently irrelevant backwater of the world.
" NATO is cowardly sacrificing Ukraine for its geopolitical goals of Western hegemony."
You don´t know the exact reasons why Ukraine intentionally is being destroyed. All we KNOW is that Ukraine indeed is intentionally breing destroyed. We don´t know the exact reasons why this is so. Neither do we know exactly how it is done. But what we KNOW is that the western political elites are behind it and allows it to happen. This logically deducted onclusion makes me lose my faith in my own political leadership. If they are willing to sacrifice the people of Ukraine why not our people ? Why not me ?
The West cannot survive without plunder. The West has no resources of its own.
and it obviously fucked up achieving this goal, too.
Gonzalo Lira was killed by the Zelensky regime
RIP
We need to bring back a second Nuremberg trial for war crimes. Jewlensky will be one on the list.
His murder was ordered by the Americans.
Victoria Nudelman
Navalny?
@@andrenogueira5058 no, navalny died in russia from health reasons
The situation in Ukraine is very dire. In the summer of 2022, I spoke with some young Ukrainians who exiled in Berlin. All were playing the Russian victim card and expressed certainty that Russia would lose, and with the US on their side, everything would turn out well for Ukraine.
I was astonished at how they were blind to the fact that Ukraine was played and used as a proxy for Western interests 😮
I think that life in the USSR was very difficult for countries like Ukraine, even after leaving the bloc they still harbored great resentment that the West knew well how to exploit in its interests instead of letting time heal old wounds.
@@Dr.Mabuse44oh really ?
What do u know about ucrania as part of USSR ?
Facts?!
@@Dr.Mabuse44 Probably right.
I assume because they did the same in Hungary in 56, the Radio 'Free Europe' scandal is still remembered by the public to this day which is why their provocations fall to deaf ears nowadays.
@@elisemartins4368 It was... just as the USSR once was, it is no longer... and facts about what??
Same with Israel really.
It started back in 2014 in Crimea. Ukrainian banks just closed down and left. On a direct line to President Putin, a Crimean resident called asking what he should do, he had not paid off his car loan. Putin said to do nothing, drive around in your car. If a Ukrainian bank voluntarily left Crimea, it is the bank's problem. So thousands of Crimean residents stopped paying mortgages and other loans. Together with this, millions of residents stopped receiving pensions, allowances and civil servants' salaries. Plus Crimea has been cut off from water and electricity. Vassili is telling the truth.
Denial of water is a war crime. Ukr were so smug when they destroyed the Crimean canal.
Yes, Kolomoysky closed his bank in Crimea even before the referendum. I've lost 700 USD at my card because of him. Russia was compensating bank deposits to people.
I've been to Crimea in 2011 and recently. Lemme tell you the difference is 😮 wow
Isn't denying banking services and pension payments (and by extension forfeiting any claims to outstanding loans, mortgages, taxes etc.) pretty much an admission of defeat/concession of occupied territories? Getting accepted back and normalizing any of the above claims will be all but impossible in the future. Unless there's some universally accepted practice that allows for unilateral economic claims over territories you don't effectively control ..
@@chari---zard come again and look at New Chersonese in Sevastopol. Or search Новый Херсонес. It's fantastic))
The West/Nato should be held accountable for the crimes in Ukraine. The crimes in Ukraine are beyond believe!!!
😂😂😂😂😂 you dream we are in trapped longtime after1945
@@hansmedja2774 650,000 thousand young men dead over Zelensky's ego, is that what are you laughing at ???
no mention, let alone discussion, of how galician-nazi death squads roam throughout UKR since the maidan, nor of their torture centers, kidnappings, assassinations, etc.since then.
@@hansmedja2774 What is there to laugh about bro
Ukraine doesn’t matter, I’m an American and I think the CIA is undermining Russia over BRICS and doing what they have to, to resurrect the almighty dollar. Not clash of civilizations but economic warfare. I can see Ukraine wanting to join the west, but so does Russia. I just don’t understand why we have to be messing with the Russians? Can someone please explain.
We know, we do not have freedom of speech in Europe either , you cant say what you think about Uk..r not even if you live here in Sweden or Finland
You can say whatever you want in Hungary. The last bastion of free speech in the EU. And we are being hated for that. Ohhh the irony...
😂
@@pitkind4hardcoresolo Viktor Orbán is the only European Leader with a spine and balls! They will get rid of him!
Ireland is bringing in Hate Speech, so we're quite screwed over here.
@@pitkind4hardcoresolo The world upside down. Hungary with Orban is the one country active in Europe looking for peace, yet the EU load and attack your country and your leader for wanting peace not war, while the EU and NATO say they are for peace celebrate and encorage war. The EU is a mental institution really.
"This war will end at a time and place of Russia's choosing." Scott Ritter
Of course, Russia says what is the solution. Russia only.
not really,
@@yantoyankee840 No that really is a quote from Scott Ritter. I suggest you debate him on the matter.
@@heimomoilanen9654 Russias are the people firing 60 000 shells and projectile missiles a day.
Russia has demands. Have you not read the clearly stated objectives of the special military operation?
@@genebaughbba And your point is?
'No freedom of speech in Ukraine' says everything . .
There are actually more independent news media channels and agencies in Ukraine than in neighbouring Poland!
This guy says X unchallenged and the interviewers, and you, accept it without any evidence. Dumb.
I'm a Russian Ukrainian with family still there. I thank you for making this video. It's so encouraging to hear somebody telling the world the appalling truth about what has been happening there for many, many years. It's a tragedy of unbelievable proportions, the grim details of which are not covered in this video and people in the West have yet to learn.
My spouse is also a Russian Ukrainian......she emigrated from Kiev long long before the war began but has family in Zhukovsky (Moscow) and Zaporozhye, Kiev and Dnepropretrovsk.
Dear Svetlana, always I am looking for ucrainians to ask them about their opinion not only about the war but also about the story before. May I can ask? What is your opinion about Maidan, Krim, civil war and the reason why russia started the war?
@@alfran1 Russia didn't start it. The US did. You can go back and listen to the phone conversation with Vicky(F the EU) Nuland, when she picked the entire new Ukie government long before they started the coup with the CIA snipers shooting into the crowds, gave 5 billion to arm the right sector goons to overwhelm the police forces etc.. After the coup the bombing and shelling of the civilians in East Ukraine started. A militia formed in East Ukraine to fight against the installed Kiev regime. Then came the funding and arms race between the US and Russia. Where Russia sent arms and money to support East Ukraine and US sending arms and money to support west Ukraine. The US stationed an army of over 300 thousand troops ready to slaughter the 5 million Russian population in the east. That's when Russia had to enter or the Russian government would have fallen.
@@alfran1 Russia didn't start it. The US did. You can go back and listen to the phone conversation with Victoria Nuland, when she picked the entire new Ukie government long before they started the coup with the CIA snipers shooting into the crowds, gave 5 billion to arm the right sector goons to overwhelm the police forces etc.. After the coup the bombing and shelling of the civilians in East Ukraine started. A militia formed in East Ukraine to fight against the installed Kiev regime. Then came the funding and arms race between the US and Russia. Where Russia sent arms and money to support East Ukraine and US sending arms and money to support west Ukraine. The US stationed an army of over 300 thousand troops ready to slaughter the 5 million Russian population in the east. That's when Russia had to enter or the Russian government would have fallen.
@@alfran1 Russia didn't start it. The US did. You can go back and listen to the phone conversation with Victoria Nuland, when she picked the entire new Ukie government long before they started the coup with the CIA snipers shooting into the crowds, gave 5 billion to arm the right sector to overwhelm the police forces etc.. After the coup the bombing and shelling of the civilians in East Ukraine started. A militia formed in East Ukraine to fight against the installed Kiev regime. Then came the funding and arms race between the US and Russia. Where Russia sent arms and money to support East Ukraine and US sending arms and money to support west Ukraine. The US stationed an army of over 300 thousand troops ready to slaughter the 5 million Russian population in the east. That's when Russia had to enter or the Russian government would have fallen.
It's HORRIFIC...the DC/London types have created a nightmare.
the plan to use Ukraine to destroy Russia was and is a Zionist plan
they alwaysdo.
@@user-ti8my1rc9k It is the Tribe that has created this world wide nightmare.
That's because due to Diplomatic immunity, they get away. Standing above the law. Revolutions change that. When even diplomats fear for their lives and livelyhoods, the world would be more just.
Like in Vietnam, Iraq, Libya, Haiti, and any of those places where they went into (officially or not) 🙄
Ukraine isn't a democracy. Far from it. In democracies there is more than one TV Channel, main political parties and main Christian denominations aren't banned, no mass extrajudicial killings, disappearances and torture, men from 18 to 60 aren't banned from leaving the country, people aren't rounded up in the streets and dragged to their death. Democracies hold elections after all. Well, it's a quote from The Time article. Zelenskyy top advisers say about him: “He deludes himself, ” one of his closest aides tells me in frustration. “We’re out of options. We’re not winning. But try telling him that. It is immovable, verging on the messianic.” According to the Economist Zelenskyy is literally screaming at his generals at this point. One Austrian artist was in a similar state in 1945 . Zelenskyy "achievements" to date: 700,000 Ukrainians are dead, 3x that mangled and crippled for life, half of Ukraine's population is living as refugees scattered all over Europe and Russia right now, they're drafting women because they've run out of men to kidnap off the streets, gyms and public transport. NYT wrote about these mass kidnappings that were happening only in Zelenskyy Ukraine and Hitler's Germany in 1945 in an article ‘People Snatchers’.
sounds like america with demoncratic cnn msbn, and abc, etc... all hating on trump and ordinary people...
Maybe try some "Plato Quotes About Democracy" (exact search string) to complement what you know.
There are others, like Tocqueville.
Plato's best friend said this
‘Wealth is addictive, the rich will eventually destroy society' -Socrates
They had time to think, most of us just runaround., hitting a depression or a burnout (same thing) just about every decade.
In a sick system, like path0cracy 🔍it's very hard to not be overly stressed. Especially once one understands what this really means and how deep we are stuck in it. 😧
Sad that too few know this and believe MSM propaganda
What's more shocking is such dissenting voices from Ukraine are being silenced by self proclaimed European liberals.
Isn't Mr. Z's term up? So, he's staying as the Dictator indefinitely, eh? Some democracy, eh!
Zelensky and his henchmen have blood on their hands when it comes to Gonzalo Lira
The sad part so many Americans have no idea who he is
But I guarantee you if he ☠️ in Russia prison they wouldn'v never stop talking about him every single American & every person in the world would have his name programmed in their head by now
Zelensky and his henchmen have blood on their hands when it comes to an entire generation of Ukrainian males!
Gonzalo Lira? What about the hundreds of thousands of young Ukrainian men he has sacrificed
@@blackriders3509 blame NATO
@@blackriders3509 we /US started this 10 year war when we helped overthrow Ukr legit government and replace it with a Bandera Nzi regime
That started attacking the Russian population all because they didn't agree with the illegal coup
Horrible that we support the Kiev regime in the West!
Dictatorship even in Sweden! In Sweden, we are also not allowed to say what we want.
With NATO you may even get sent to the front in Ukraine some day...
I can’t believe it!
I wouldn't use word "even" now when talking about Sweden. When you took in so much immigrants it was obvious you are going in the wrong direction.
It is the same here in Norway. If you say anything that goes against the narrative of the globalist controlled msm or the government, you are then ridiculed by the very brainwashed and compliant population.
@@yyyy12344You? A third of the population didn't want migrants here. Today its more.
But, but.... local Australian government and Murdoch media keep telling us Russia has no more tanks or ammunition, and Ukraine is winning!
They probably do not tell you this either. Irreversible losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine during the SMO exceeded 700 thousand people - Alaudinov
We are like mushrooms, the whole Western world, we are fed bullshit and kept in the dark!!!
Australian media? You have to be kidding. How could the Australian govt be forced by NATO to give $200m to the nazi regime, if the public knew the truth.
sick and tired of murdochalia land thousands of miles from europe telling people what to think.
Ukraine mostly whining
Ukraine was a mess before 2014 let alone after
Przyznaję,byłam tam kilka razy,ale to taki rosyjski drill był,jak w ZSRR,w którym też byłam.Nawet w polsce.mielismy raj w porównaniu jak tam traktowano ludność,obcokrajowcy mieli super i dla nich było wejście do restauracji, ale Rosjan nie wolno,w Leningradzie, Moskwie, Kijowie rygor,byłam pociągiem przyjaźni też,granica horror,a dla nas to były piękne wyjazdy.
This isnt truth.. us uk have lots to sa since creating, funding and directing this proxy
@@a.esquivel2434 Ukraine was a mess even before the Maidan in 2014 made worse after but wasn't that good to begin with
Tell us:
How was it a mess?
What happened in 2014 that made it worse?
@@MundiTaurus It was and still is but even without the war was the most corrupt country in Europe
Back in 2009 when I was there an Italian guy that I was there with who worked in Russia also told me that the level of corruption in Ukraine is such that the Russians are shocked by it
After the Maidan and the beginning of the war it just became worse
No Minsk 1, no Minsk 2, no Istanbul agreement, no 10 point Peace plan, no SwissPiss conference, no Please plan. Russia has a 1 point Peace proposal.
The Elensky curse is real😂
Don't join NATO because its existential threat to Russia security terms.
I am shocked RUclips did not censor this excellent interview.
They are very busy, it will come😆
I think sometimes they allow certain channels in order to monitor which people agree with the content.
@@JohnMoranI think you are exactly right! They are making a hit list, who to put in FEMA camps when WW3 starts. I have been thinking this way since Covid..anyhow We sleep well at night!
@@JohnMoran you bet! Now that 70% of the Godless have the mark (the chip, COV-ID). They can connect their personal opinions. DO NOT TAKE THE MARK OF THE BEAST in the forehead (swab) or the arm, Jesus Christ. All the best.
Donetsk and Lugansk are not "occupied territories." They are legally and constitutionally part of the Russian Federation and this is not going to change.
PS Ukranians seem super nice, just working hard, avoiding corruption, seeking peace and quiet and saying little prayers at bedtime. What a lovely people.
This man is lucky to be alive given he was imprisoned for 11 months. Gonzalo Lira was much less lucky and he was, at least theoretically, advantaged by being a US citizen and therefore entitled to consular protection...
The biden administration doesn't care about anyone
True, but Gonzo was much more problematic for the Zelenskys Gestapo government . Because he reached out the American public.
He spoke out about Biden and Nuland and that sealed the deal I'm afraid
Gonzalo did some very informative videos while he was alive.
He opened the eyes and ears of millions of people about the truth about the Russia and Ukraine war.
Lira was murdered because he was educating people about the truth of the Russian / Ukraine war.
Lira was killed because he was wealth . Th SBU just tied to get some money out of him and then killed him
Ukraine sounds more like Germany in the 1940's every day.
I think I would prefer Germany in the 1940's to what's going on in Ukraine. Germans are and has always been punctual, orderly, competent and predictable and I could work with that. Ukraine on the other hand is evil two- faced chaos, which makes it difficult to navigate as you never know whom you are dealing with. You odds of survival would be highest in a small still peaceful town very close to a border, where you could slip over to the other side at night if things get too problematic. Towns near the borders of Romania, Hungary, or Slovakia would be my preferred areas followed by small town near the borders to Poland, Belarus, or Russia. The Moldavian border would be my last choice as that country could be overrun easily and you would have your enemies on your heels from day one. Gonzalo Lira was located in Kharkiv, which is about 900 km from the border to Hungary, where he was caught during his attempt to escape from Ukraine. That's too far from from the border as an illegal border crossing must generally take place on foot, which then again mean that you have to be less than 5km from the border so you can cross in about an hour if things go wrong.
@J.B.29
... weit schlimmer. Auch damals starben unvergleichbar
viel mehr Russen und die Völker der SU, einschl., Belarussen und Ukraner als Deutsche.
Germany was invaded?
Also NATO
@@neoultramegapunkliberal5148 No, Germany did not suffer a successful coup d'etat. They held a democratic election in Spring 1933. In Ukraine, the democratic side of the 10 year long civil war is now finalizing their victory over the coup-regime.
I feel very sorry for Ukrainian people.
They need to take things in their own hands
That got no hands 🤣😹🤣😹🤣🤣
Unfortunately, they brought the whole situation onto themselves.
Well, since 1991 is the first time they did. And it was not their best of days. Btw, there exists no "Ukrainian people". The word "Ukraine" means "borderland", same word as "Krajina" in former Yugoslavia. It is an area between different nations, not a nation in itself.
Notice we never hear the western media interview any Ukrainian civilians?
@@elisemartins4368 😂🤣
Stop calling Crimea and the Donbass occupied territories. Those peoples are Russian in ethnicity and culture and they and their forebears are Russian.
Kiev declaring a new country in 1991 and grabbing those territories does not make them "Ukrainians" in anything but name. They are now independent republics or part of Russia in the case of Crimea. The wonderful 'democratic' nation calling itself ukraine only existed as a political entity for a mere 23 years. The supporters of this place need to face reality.
Not entirely right. Let's exclude Crimea from the discussion for now. Ukraine came into being after WWI and after two false starts, became a founding republic of the USSR. From the beginning, however, even back to the 19th century nationalist movement, Ukrainians were divided. Left-Bank Ukraine had the Galician idealists seeking purity; Right-Bank Ukraine, people who wanted an independent state but had no issues co-existing with Russian people as they had strong historical ties, shared culture, and so on. The extremely Russo-phobic Ukrainian nationalists versus the more tolerant Russophile Ukrainian nationalists. In eastern Ukraine, many of people you say rightly spoke Russian and had Russian ethnicity still thought of themselves as Ukrainian. The problem was with the western Ukrainian ultranationalists. When Ukraine became independent in 1991, the new nation struggled to find a balance. The USA however worked to set Ukraine against Russia -- our foreign policy experts published on this, our think-tanks, etc. We helped foment a Ukrainian civil war, and then backed the most violent intolerant side. This to stick it to Russia. Russia, for its own security reasons, finally intervened on behalf of the Eastern Ukrainians. Remember, Putin in 2014 did NOT recognize the two break-away republics. Crimea, on the other hand, was NEVER part of any historical Ukraine -- it was gifted to the Soviet Republic of Ukraine by Khrushchev against the will of the Crimea residents. He did this to bind Ukraine to Russia, btw. Basically, the USA helped kick off a Ukrainian civil war -- one which forced Russia's hand, and then NATO's. In truth, Eastern Ukraine is better off as part of the Russian Federation. Western Ukraine will remain the basket case of Europe. I don't see any circumstances -- on the grounds of human rights, to start -- for "returning" the Donbass or Crimea to Ukraine. Just insanity. For the other two oblasts under Russian control (mostly), a public referendum should be held. But they will likely go with the Russian Federation for practical as well as cultural and historical reasons.
They occupy the land they have lived on for hundreds of years. Not invaders. What is wrong with Ukrainians and E Europeans. All of a sudden they have found new Jeeuus to start another war. These countries are fanatical violent racists.
@@americanexile Donetsk Luhansk Kherson Nicolaev Odessa Zaporozhye Karkov are parts of Russia attached by Lenin in the 1920s there was/is no Right-Bank Ukraine
For the other two oblasts under Russian control (mostly), a public referendum should be held.
they already did
@@americanexile Minor correction: You mixed up left and right.
East Ukraine or the Left Bank, so called MALOROSSIYA and Slabozhanshchina, for centuries was ethnically and culturally Russian territory. Right Bank - it's a different story. BTW I was born and raised in Russian Crimea. We have been with Russia since 1783.
@@americanexile Ukrainian republic was declared in 1918 during German occupation and there was a civil war. So there was no real state, just declarations. And it was declared on a much smaller territory. Donbass had their own republic then. They were attached to Ukraine during the USSR.
It is absolutely revolting to know how badly people living in Donbass have been treated since 2014 and yet the West continues to insist on helping the government in Kiev, supporting its regime and still hiding and ignoring everything that is happening in Ukraine. This lack of democracy and transparency in the West is unacceptable!
Excellent interview! Thank you very much to all three of you for this clear and honest clarification!
I hope everything goes well with Vasyl Muravytskyi and that the Ukrainian and Russian people will one day return to being the brothers they have been for so many centuries...
As a Russian I wish Russian and Ukrainian will return to being in a good relationship, but unfortunately I don’t believe it. It’s too many losses and grief on both sides.
@@user-pp4gr1oh2s Time is a healer.
"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is FATAL" - Henry Kissinger.
It's PAINFUL to watch your country is being destoyed and your people are being killed. I pray one day that the relationship between Ukrainians and Russian will be back to what it had been for hundreds of years, brothers and sisters. Pray for PEACE in Ukraine, Russia and the world.
Keep doing what you are doing Vasyl and Pascal.
Thank you Daria.
привет из Индонезии
@the coin - very weary of reading that
@@niburu1508 the Quote by Kissinger?
More than 1 million civilians in my country were massacred by the US backed regime, the post coup regime, the Soeharto regime, in its purge in the 60s. Hundreds of thousands of people in Timor Leste were killed by the same regime, the action of which was supported by the US.
Thanks for quoting this. This is spot on.
There are friends and "friends". Some seem to fare very well, getting a lot back in exchange for apparently very little/nothing, others have to give a lot and get very little/nothing in return.
Better be USA friend than russia 's friend.
Eastern Ukraine is gone for good.
Bravo. Back to Mother Russia. It belongs there.
As for ukrainians; they sold themselves to the highest bidder. Now they need to suffer their faith.
Western also, slovakia, poland and hungary.
@@bertamaria-bender2889 No one wants Western Ukraine, it has nothing, all the resources are in the East which is why Ukraine wants it back bad. If they (Ukraine) treat the people of the east with dignity rather than trying to subdue and treating them as less than human, we wouldn't have the situation we have today.
@@bertamaria-bender2889 Im Slovak... and I dont understand what do you mean.
@@frederika3013 you’ll get some historical landscapes like poland and hungry
Ukraine is not 300 hundred years old! But don't tell the Ukrainians!
Ukraine only became a country in 1991!
depends how you look at it, before soviet dissolution ukraine existed as a state for a grand total of single year, by an objective measure that tallies entire 36yr of existence as a state. but origins of their (very synthetic) national identity stretch about 300yr, tho it wasnt for another century before it started to take any serious traction
@@dinf8940 They called themselves Malorussia even in legal documents from the 30s it means little Russia. In the very most western regions there was always Polish, Hungarian and Romanian contentions. There were really 3 different outlooks even as recently as the 90s but the national moderates where expelled and the west funded and helped what was the smallest faction, the extreme western anti-Russian faction to come to power. Historically they were always pretty weak even after ww2 Bandera was considered a failure.
Most of the new identity is fabricated from thin air
Russians are of same people as Ukrainians and they fought before the slovs won keiv was their capital you need to look up the history before you speak out of ignorance
@@JoseRoman-lj6eq who fought? who won? when did it happen? If you wanted to say something, you definitely failed.
I had a Ukranian colleagues at work. They said they are not coming back to thier country. That alone i can say Ukraine is lost
Look who US supported in Afghanistan against Soviet Union in 1980 and you will understand why they supported certain groups in Syria against Russia and now in Ukraine. Suddenly everything makes sense.
But our leaders in EU do not want to stop the W#R..
Your leadership in the European Union have no say. It’s decided in a board room meeting. The vote be made by your leaders on the floor is for show.
Ukr is EU puppet, and EU is US puppet!
True.@@currendodds3304
Then their chosen opponent will stop them at the cost of our lives. That's how it always "Ends". Unfortunately, we're not living in a movie.
🎯 @@currendodds3304
This is a first time in the channels I watch. A Ukrainian journalist. I am pro Russian but I feel sorry for Ukrainian people like him. Greece could have been like Ukraine at the time of maidan.
Ukraine has been rendered as a sacrificial lamb. What has the nation gained? And what has it lost?
Millions of citizens fled the country and up to 1 million soldiers are either dead, wounded or missing... I almost forgot, Zelensky gained billions of dollars of free money in the process...
Many Liberals and Orthodox schismatic heretics . as our overlords would say.
Multiple videos showing people being kidnapped to go die for Joe Biden.
EVIL
Gained glory respect investment sovereignty
@@Jbo2000 No... it's lost all of those and is currently owned by Black Rock! All it has gained is its own enslavement to 'The West' (whatever that is!)
Young Ukrainian mens are dying because of BlackRock very sad.😔
Overall because russia invaded Ukraine.
@@lf6756 US Operation Aerodynamic. But also Blackrock and DuPont to a much smaller degree.
@@novak7970 especially because of russian Gollum.
@@lf6756 Learn a little history child then get back to me. You clear know nothing about what I have written - educate the uneducable. Get your mother to read to you Grayzones Maidan report.
@@lf6756 Get informed what hapened in 2014.....
This is the "democracy" we are fighting for. NATO would have all NATO countries run like this.
RIP Gonzalo Lira
Zelensky must be put in prison NOW.
Zelenski just defends his country, Gollum shouldn't have invaded Ukraine.
Maybe he will get asylum in USA. Then he can work in Disneyland in a Mickey Mouse costume. He might even perform in Las Vegas, doing his piano act assisted by his buddy Sean Penn.
He'll not get asylum anywhere. He'll be taken care of
Before he even fills an application. 👋
He'll be " taken care of" even before fills up application.
*NO WAY* do Ukrainian leaders want to switch off their western money train!!
I heard about cancelling opposition media in Ukraine and I'm not stupid. I knew it means censorship, so I'm not surprised at all. I have lot of respect and honour for Vasyl Muravytskyi for speaking out. Take care.
We in the West don't have a free press, freedom of speech or democracy, that's why we don't know about conditions in Ukraine or Russia.
They can use there own brain and do some research
At least it’s still possible in Western countries to research internationally not following the MSM without being sent to prison 🙄
@@anneli1735 So far.
@@anneli1735 That's true also in most countries of the Global Majority, but not in China (I believe you cannot google in China, but I may be wrong).
You just need a VPN in China (which is not illegal) @@larsh2923
It’s 10.5 years of war. ..NOT 2.5 yr as the host said
Obviously referring to the initiation of the full scale invasion.
@@CharlesPossit wasn’t actually a full scale invasion. It was called ‘special operations’ because it was only in the Donbas to start with.
Hats off to Daria! I'm not sure she is a professional translator. I think she is just a Ukrainian who speaks excellent English. As someone who works with translators everyday, I know how difficult it is to interpret for someone so quickly so that it doesn't interrupt the flow of the conversation. I'm sure a lot of what we see here is due to editing, but still, she did a commendable job 👏
She is not translating, she is expressing her own opinion
@@user-hk1km6wt7b BS
And from russian language is rhe hardest
The journalist actually speaks Russian and she is sometimes too liberal with her translation
@@user-hk1km6wt7b You have examples where she mistranslated? Why don't you share them if they are important?
This made me very sad for all Ukraine. I wish everyone in Europe who is supporting a continuation of this conflict were better educated on the facts.
It's scary to see how few people are.
Sad for nazi ukraine but not the Donbass which it attacked. You just can't help being a eugenicist fascist can you?
I wish those supporting the ukrian war! Wear the ones fighting !but there are hiding behind there desks like the cowerds those leaders of our governments have become! I'd like to know what will happen to europe when America gets bored and walks away from europe! Has America always do!?.
Brainwashed people they are so ignorant
@CatPDX...that's the problem. They KNOW the facts they're just ignoring them.
Is Ukraine even a democracy anymore?
How's Zelenski still making decisions for the country when technically his presidency has ended?
Everything is possible in the "free" west.....
Russia was never a democracy. Tsaar was murdered by the communists and then Stalin murdered millions of Russians. Stalin is Putins great leader.
To all my Slav brothers and sisters, stop falling for the western lies and make peace with each other. They keep doing this to us and we keep fall for it.
since 1917 brother. over 100 years of slavic, christian, and islamic sacrifice.
Tako je buraz
From a country that neighbours UA, this is like rediscovering America. 😂
Guys, we've always known it!
Gonzalo Lira comes to mind.
Gonzalo could choose to go to Russia but he chose his own death instead.
At least Zelensky didn't murder this one.
@@dirkhuman760What are you trying to imply.?
@@vasilispatsalidis5683 Not trying to imply anything. Telling you a spade is a spade! Gonzalo was stupid. If he went to Russia he would still be alive but he chose to go the opposite direction and got murdered.
Ukraine's culture consists of Banderism
I simply cannot imagine how can Vasyl survive in Finland. I still have family ties there. However very disturbed because of my opinion on this war, as I'm from Central Europe and my country is bordering Ukraine. But the Finish know better, of course. I'm not able to talk to them about Ukraine. One of this family members is even studying Politics. All of them are completely brainwashed by Sana Marin and the current Finish president. This people are very, very arrogant. There is no space for any other opinion or information or God forbid knowledge. It's a shame. Where did Kekkonens ideas disappeared in this country.
Social Democrats and Libs killed them
Got you The same in Denmark you have to be political correct and in alignment with our prime minister and her s*’t
I know. I don't get it. TBH I would worry for Daria too. This is shocking!
Of course it is the same shit in 'Sweden. If you are among the relatively few, who have for one reason or another been made aware of the whole picture and history of the Ukrainian war, you immediately start feeling ashamed of the actions, or lack thereof, of your own government. Also, it is no longer possible to listen to swedish government media, since it makes you sick of the propaganda and terrible fear.- and warmongering spin to everything. Only leader acting rationally and responsibly is actually the so hated Victor Orban....
@@lars1480 So true. I work with so-called academics and they're some of the most brainwashed people I know yet they think they're better than everyone. That's not the Denmark I moved to 30 years ago.
I have always said that Ukraine is not a democratic state and here in Sweden I have become bullied by pro-Ukraine elements and harrased with ”russo troll”, ”vatnik” etc etc just because of this. The people in Sweden are so naive and political correct so they feel obligated to support Ukraine and call it democratic.
Me too, I remember first time i said to my friend “let russians clean the naattsiz first” he said are u insane? President is jew, there is no nattsi in ukraine!!!
Ukraine is struggling to be a democracy after 70 years of Soviet Russian rule. It was attacked by Russia which is do obviously a dictatorship. And you support Russia?
They are not naive (maybe some of them are), it´s mandatory EU policy.
The same thing happened here, in Finland 😑
Donbass only had two requirements for this coalmining region to remain in Ukraine in 2014: 1) the right to use their native language (Russian) in public sphere as they knew no other language; 2) the bringing back of gubernatorial elections which Ukraine had abolished. That was ALL there was to it, nothing else - and Donbass would peacefully be in Ukraine now. The Kiev nationalist government was too ravenous for power and too eager to "ukranize" the cosmopolitic and developed areas of the East that dismissed the Ukrainian idea of a nation-state.
Zelensky is taking lessons from the playbooks of Diệm and Noriega.
He forgets the part about their downfalls.
I was listening to the music by bono.
One.
He sings about togetherness and yet.
He takes sides with the Ukrainian.
He did the same in Bosnia. Singing with Pavarotti.
Or is the Saakasvili of today
@@peetsnorthe is as evil as them all
PLAYBOOKS OF BENZION WIEKELWOSKY JR FROM POLAND ALIASBIBI
@@peetsnort Bono is just another bribed charlatan.
The only problem with Japans surrender is it has been occupied by foreign troops since the surrender papers were signed , that is not total freedom !
So has Germany.
oh really and Germany??
@@blueeyes402 Exactly. Putin warned the US yesterday about putting Nukes at Ramstein USAFB Germany.
@@blueeyes402 yes they are occupied countries, Japan and Germany.
Stooge states.
I've seen patrick lancaster's videos Vasili. The people in Donbas consider themselves Russian. They were fed up with Ukraine by early 2023. I am sorry, but the Lviv part won in officially driving those people away.
I think he understands that but he cannot say it because it is considered "treason".
Have you actually met living human beings from the Donbas? I know many who would vehemently disagree with you. Even among Russian-speaking people from Donetsk and Luhansk, a very large number consider themselves Ukrainian, volunteer to fight in the Ukrainian army and despise the Russian aggressors who level there cities and towns, “liberating“ them from their contented lives in Ukraine.
@@Chirovsky Cool story, bro...
@Chirovsky You know I could answer that, but then I remember it won't matter. So have a nice day sir, I simply don't agree with you.
@@Chirovsky Keep riding that flying pig!
The more I hear and read about Ukraine, from many different sources and points of view, the more I am convinced that here in the West we are not told the truth at all.
This interview should be broadcasted on the mainstream TV in Europe and US.
It is interesting how in Ukraine they speak about territories that have to be reconquered, but they do not speak about the people that lives there, as if they were no-citizens or lower grade citizens.
We all know how a regime that hates a minority ends.
Sold their souls to satan and come November they won't even have one friend left in this world.
We are not told the truth about anything at all from our government and the press unless by pure coincidence it serves them.
And there is no freedom of speech in Europe either. We are sensored everywhere
Zelenky's days are numbered.
He knows too much from all sides. If they can try to bump off a US presidential candidate, Z is a sitting duck. The CIA will plan it and a lone patsy will do it.
Zelensky reminds me The Black Knight from Monty Python and the Holy Grail priceless scene.
"Your arm's off!"
"No it isn't!"
“Look you stupid bastard you’ve got no arms left!”
"It's a flesh wound. I've had worse.
"Well what's that then?"
"I’m invincible!”
“You’re a looney.”
“Alright, we’ll call it a draw!”
Even if he sneaks to the United States, he will be a target on his back !! He won't survive after what has done to the Ukraine people or the Russian government
Zel reminds me of a toad that lives in my garden.
@@froggylegspeople That's an insult to the poor animal
Ukraine was a creation of the USSR, prior to that there was no Ukraine. Historic atlas’s show no mention of Ukraine until then.
No it is not. There's too much to write about Ukraine's history in some comment on this platform. It's a very tumultuous history Many have invaded Ukraine. In 700bc to 200 bc it was part of the Scythian (mainly iranian) empire. In that period there were Greek, Roman and Byzantine colonies on the northern shores of the Black Sea. At one point it became a polish-lithuanian commonwealth in 1385. So not as simple as your statement indicates.
East UA was russian as of 1764 ... only 1922 Lenin added the center to make it “Ukraine Administrative Region of SU”..Stalin added West UA 1939
@@Charlemagne1367was it called Ukraina back then?
@warsmithalaric exactly that means it has been always russian... east UA became a Russian region in 1764.. only Lenin added the central UA, and Stalin/Hitler added West UA...patchwork and if UA government would not have suppressed the Russians in the east everything would ve been fine
@@zivaradlovacki2666 Good question..............
I strongly suspect that after you closely examine just how many people go to prison in UK or otherwise get penalized because of what they said on social media, - the number will turn out to be much higher than in Russia, and perhaps higher than in Ukraine. Most of these posts or comments aren't in any way hateful, or even inflammatory but are simply taken out of context entirely. Policing speech has quietly become the so-called "Developed World's" obsession in the last two decades. Tyranny rarely comes beating drums and blowing trumpets to announce its presence. It saturates our societies slowly, taking root from within, and one only wakes up when his neighbors begin expressing support for no, not yet another prisoner of conscience, but for the state which takes said individual away in handcuffs. It's more often the opposite - "we the people" have to beat drums and blow trumpets so as to make the rest notice that we will soon be on the road of no return.
The 'Trucker Convoy' in Canada during the Covid tyranny was a voice of freedom in this larger context.
I am pleased to read your comment. It confirms Karma exists. I am living in a former colony of the UK
@@bravolima7394 So you're pleased that opponents of the system in the UK who speak out against it are jailed there. Remind me whose side you're on.
@@Khayyam-vg9fw I am pleased that the UK gets what it deserves !! We had opponents here..... to the UK sanctions and desire to install a terrorist Government ..... but the opponents were crushed and today South Africa is a mess
@@Khayyam-vg9fw We don't leave our home after nightfall......and pray that we don't get hijacked during the day.... THANK YOU UK
Liebe Grüße an Daria und Vasyl, ihr habt von der Gesellschaft der Ukraine berichtet, von den Leuten die dort leben. Diese Sicht fehlt im Westen. Wir sind leider einem Framing unterworfen, das der Realität nicht gerecht wird. Danke für die Einblicke und alles Gute, ach was, das Beste für Euch!
The fear and caution even from a foreign country, show the true picture of what the Ukrainian people are up against.
I've been extremely concerned about the lack of true coverage in that country since this began. I can only imagine the pressure regular people are under from within their own regime. Glad the reporter made it out. Terrible
Geez, that was just heartbreaking!
Thank you Pascal for giving this brave man a platform to share as much of the truth of the situation in Ukraine as he has felt safe to.
For humanity to survive, US/West hegemony must end. No more wars!!!
The war between Russia and Ukraine is a tragedy that will not be washed away for generations. It's an unimaginable crime that people who just 30 years ago were part of one united country, and have a common history, culture, language and blood have been brought to killing one another. This is neocon dream by the likes of Robert Kagan and Anne Applebaum come true. Thank you for your work shedding light on this tragedy for an English-speaking audience.
Kagan, Applebaum, McFaul, Timothy Snyder, Nuland .... the bloodthirsty neocons and ideological fanatics are thrilled to sacrifice the people of Ukraine for the Imperial Order.
Oh wait ... I meant the "rules based order...." Translated: "We make the rules and you follow our orders..."
Russian and Ukrainian culture is different they shared same soviet history but don't mistake that for being one people they are not that is just Russian imperialism. Blame Russian for never wanting to deal with Ukraine as equals but as vassals
Note their ethnicity. Same as Zelensky. Victoria Nuland? Yup, also one. Read 200 years together by Solzhenitsyn.
Thank you, Victoria Nuland.
@@huwhitecavebeast1972 I know he's beloved in the West as an anti-communist hero, but Solzhenitsyn is actually hated by 80 percent of the population in Russia and nothing the authorities have tried can revive his reputation, not even putting his work in the school program. He's seen as a a liar and a willing or unwilling CIA asset.
Free the Ukrainians who are being enslaved and exterminated by Kiev. Funding slave catchers in a slave state like Ukraine is unacceptable behavior.
This is all about imperialism by the US. Next is Hungary.
"We're the United States of America for God's sake, the most powerful nation in the history - not in the world, in the history of the world. The history of the world."
President of America and the leader of the Free World Joe Biden (October 15, 2023)
Only people detached from reality would disagree with President Biden - unquestionably the greatest - after James Monroe - president in American history.
AMERICA is the richest, the most successful and powerful country in history of the world.
We Americans are dreamers and doers - the most exceptional and civilised nation in history of humanity.
We dominate and control every aspect of life on this planet: politically, economically, financially, militarily, culturally, scientifically, technologically.
We Americans - with some other English speaking nations - dominate entertainment industry, music, film, art, sport, fashion, even global fast food networks... you name it.
We are a beacon of democracy, freedom, justice and human rights for the rest of the world.
Our New World, Promised Land of opportunity to this day attracts millions of oppressed and destitute people from Africa and Euro-Asia, who flee homophobia, racism, misogyny, antisemitism, illegal immigration, eniromental disasters, street crime, police violence, drugs, unemployment, human trafficking and sexual exploitation, child abuse, homelessness, gun culture and mass shootings, poverty, ubiquitous corruption, censorship and disinformation, political assassinations, "unprovoked wars" and "colour revolutions", genocides, Marxist totalitarianism and teocratic dictatorship... They find here not only the highest living standards, unlimited wealth and prosperity, peace, safety, unrestricted love and happiness but also an equitable society, tolerance and liberal values that people in 21 century deserve.
Providence and Monroe Doctrine blessed us with sacred hegemony and a right of unilateral intervention over "the Americas".
Remember so called Latin, South, Central Americans, Canadians and other inhabitants of our backyard, there is one and only AMERICA - The United States of AMERICA.
We true Americans will continue our crusade to defend democracy in America and beyond.
Nothing, nothing can come in a way of saving and defending democracy and promulgate our American way of life so harmoniously coupled with universal values.
We are a superpower.
Do not dare to question our leadership in the world!
DON'T, as it is based on a simple devine premise:
If God is for The US, who can be against The US? (Romans 8:31)
GOD BLESS AMERICA!
Joe Biden for President in 2028!
We're just Rome's war dog.
That is because Orban went on a diplomatic peace mission. And is refusing to send Hungarian troops to fight NATO and BlackRocks war.
@@KatherineSparkes Yes, that peace mongering SOB.. -We can't have that, so they'll try to regime change him. At the same time they talk about human rights, democracy and bla bla..
Hungary loves imperialism lol, they're literally allied with the US state department
If this stories had been told in the wester press , no Ukrainian war no 3 world war and maybe someone should have told the Ukrainian "Do not do to others what you do not want others do to you.
Luciferian's don't follow that moral chain of thought. They never apologize or ask forgiveness either.
If, if.... they would need to admit what have they done with Ukraine- USA, GB, EU - all the warmongers. It's much more profitable for them to risk WWIII.
The press is full of Ga*a stories, the mayhem and indiscriminate killing. No one is doing anything about it too.
Ukraine is the happiest place on Earth. So many USA dollars was given for the happy life in Ukraine. May be I an wrong? The USA is only sowing hatred and hostility all over the world.
- Iraq 1991
- Kuwait 1991
- Somalia 1992-1994
- Bosnia 1995
- Iran, 1998
- Sudan, 1998
- Afghanistan, 1998
- Serbia 1999
- Afghanistan, 2001
- Iraq in 2003
- Libya 2011
A Czech friend of mine who was a child during the Communist years (pre 1989) told me how confused she was by her parents who said one thing over the breakfast table and the opposite on the bus. Ukraine seems to have gone back to that time. Western foreign policy has achieved nothing constructive for decades.
And what has "freedom" given these ex-soviet countries? They are all slaves to US and Euroid imperialism
Haha yep it was quite common back then to speak one thing at home and the total opposite in public. People were afraid to say anything critical of the government. No one knew who was an Stb informant ( secret police). I grew up in ČSSR.
Very powerful Pascal-thank you! And many thanks to brave Vasyl and to Daria for her translation. It is very frustrating to witness the total ignorance of the majority of people in the West as a result of the propaganda.
Brave Vasyli , but also Daria is very brave . Excellent translator , I wish her all the best in her life .
Vasyl, thank you for your courage. Pascal, thank you for bringing this brave man to our consciousness.
Courageous Interview - Very Believable Narrative - I pray the platform will not ban this video - The world needs to hear it. As ever (both inside & outside of Ukraine) all need to adopt respect & understanding for those living in the region. I believe Washington MUST navigate & promote a diplomatic, peaceful outcome and cease their rhetorical agenda - I fear the kleptocratic occupancy of Washington will avoid this terribly outstanding chance for peace. God Bless Ukraine 🕊🔱🕊
Why did the Ukrainian govt didnt compensate the families of the KiA ? The govt promised them €350,000 each and yet many have waited over 1&2yrs, received nothing but sorrow
The money is gone😂😂😂
The poor people are just tools for Zelensky to buy more mansions for his corrupt family
The money was transferred to clowns offshore account.
Because most of the KIA are not KIA. They are officially MIA to avoid paying anything. There is video evidence from AFU soldiers describing how their commanders pressured them to list fallen as MIA.
bcoz that's irrationally high for Ukraine. It's like 5 apartments in the capital. Half the people will not make this money working their entire lives. You can get it but only with lawyer support after going through bureaucratic hell. Maybe like 1% gets it, the rest get denied because of no proper documentation.
Russia provides for all citizens ukrainians and russians. Not many wanted to keep ukrainian citizenship. They have now new houses and apartments, new jobs, and a future in freedom. Big difference from what they ever had in Ukraine
Ukraine will never get the territory in the East back.
Interesting that Vasil received asylum in Finland.
Lot of people from Ukraine that are critical of the regime received asylum in the EU.
Denmark is full of them and they receive preferential treatment for jobs.
There are 16 political parties in Finland. Different opinions are tolerated. Even V.I.Lenin was granted a political asylum.
Finland, the country that changed sides in ww2.
The Germans nailed their Finish medals to the trees on the boarder
I just wonder how many stooges are there in European's countries that listen to the US.
This.
Our friends see everything. So they can manipulate anything.
People just like money more than their country.
no mention, let alone discussion, of how galician-nazi death squads started roaming throughout UKR since the maidan, nor of their "interior minister" 2014-2021 (arsen avakov), their UN-denounced torture centers, their punctual but non-stop kidnappings, assassinations, etc.since 2014 until now.
A Ukrainian politician was crucified by what was called the death squad in the Western media at the time.
He wasn't scared then.
There were no deaths squads roaming around Ukraine except in your imagination, take a look at what happened in Donetsk & Lughansk that was run by Russian nationalist and local criminals which is why almost 2million people fled over to Ukraine (UN refugee fact)
My family in Donbass are much safer, happier, and prosperous since Russia liberated their zone. They never want to go back to project Ukraine
Daria is an EXCELLENT translator! Great work.
She is a FANTASTIC translator. And you did an amazing editing of problematic video parts.
Justice for Gonzalo Lira!
The comment that "good things came to Japan after its surrender" was a howler!
The moment Japan surrendered, their destiny was designated as vassal state of the US and the government officials as Butlers like Uncle Tom in the US.
calling it good without a qualifier is a stretch, but alternatives were worse. surrender was the right move, what came after coulve been played better, especially past decades, but it coulve been far, far worse - just look at germany
@@dinf8940well afterwards their country was rebuilt and enjoyed a decent period of economic prosperity
Orwellian "Doublespeak"
Well if Japan would have been allowed to rise when it was rising just before the lost decades it would have reached quite the heights.
USA made a deal with them where Japan on their own devalued their currency and crashed their Economy. This can also now be known. But yes Japan has been occupied for a long time after that war.
Omg how brave are these two. Finally truths are coming out from ordinary people🙏🙏🙏
Heroic journalist. Thank you Vasyl and Pascal!
I wouldn't feel safe stating those facts here in Finland since our quisling government is working closely with Kiev's fascists. Be safe, Vasyl.
@@Maria_Nizhny_Novgorod Well, I've done it since the beginning, but only in my social circles. There has been some demonstrations, but media labels them as putinists and as a part of the Putin's plan to "destabilize our democracy through useful idiots who believe in Russian propaganda." Unfortunately too many people still trust our media and government and can't think for themselves. No matter how ridiculous the official stories are, these morons take them as facts. Cause, you know, "we are good and Putin bad." End of discussion.
Now Zelinsky is the problem. Do something constructive about it. Don't let him cost more lives.
But US companies already own a third ukranian farm land and Blackrock is doing the same..
No foreigners can buy farmland in Ukraine that is the law
@HK-zf7op The order of Law in Ukraine ended 2014 with the Maidan.
Zelensky / USA proxy war machine makes it up as it goes. Ukraine as we new it is gone.
@@HK-zf7op Not anymore, my friend. Zelinsky even bragged about his contracts with Blackrock. That's real.
That was a great guest!
Truly horrendous situation in Ukraine, worse than I heard before.
It really seems as an internal revolt inside the Ukraine army is needed here...but all the generals etc are receiving big paychecks from the US and EU, hence they dont have the incentive to do so.
The situation in ukraine is the problem of ukraininian not ours . Let them resolve their problems themselves and on their own cost
Until the naaasis is still there, there will never be peace. And then, my deepest condolences to the innocents in Ukraine.
While the fog of war is inevitably lifting, whether it remains conventional or escalates to nuclear, the longer the war in Europe continues, the more demanding will be the Russian terms of surrender that Ukraine and NATO will be confronted with.
That is insane!!! Why would Ukraine penalise people for just trying to live their lives. What do they expect them to do??! Abandon their homes and sacrifice themselves to die??? They are civilians. They shouldn't be penalised just for wanting to carry on living their lives.
It sounds like "Other Lives". Informers, Police, Social Media and Phone monitors! It must be a huge apparatus. I wonder if the USA and the UK are helping them with this repression?
The knowing and cynical weaponisation of important concepts like democracy and freedom by so many leaders in Europe is unforgivable for all the real-world misery that it causes.
Even though I lived in Ukraine for two years and have a number of contacts there, I welcome this interview because I don’t understand what people are thinking. For two years they have totally believed in victory and all kinds of crazy propaganda. And if you try to suggest some thing else they will say I’m following “ Putin propaganda” So I stop talking about anything except sympathizing for their situation day today.
Interesting information. I used to speak with Ukrainians in the U.S. after the coup in 2014 -- I tried to warn them they would regret U.S. meddling in the region. They did not want to hear it and I stopped trying to explain U.S. history to them.
In 2009, during a visit to Ukraine, a Ukrainian in Kiev told me that the U.S. was funding "fascists" in Ukraine and they hoped to overthrow the government -- which would cause a civil war. I had no idea what he was talking about until the Maidan coup ... then I realized he was 100% correct.
That Ukrainian then had to FLEE Ukraine after 2014 because they threatened to kill him for his wrong opinions .... horrible, horrible tragedy in Ukraine.
I can't beliefe that after so many losses they still belife in this propaganda? For them it is also easy to read russian telegram channel, or neutral mapper (weeb union, suryiak maps)
I've heard a description of Germany at the end of WWI. That soldiers were told each day through propaganda that they were winning. And in reality they had been losing badly. So when it did collapse, soldiers were shocked and couldn't believe it. These soldiers never got over it, and felt they had been 'robbed' of something that was sure. And we know who they blamed.
@@JohnMoran That's not completly correct. After the peace treaty (Brest-Litowsk, 1918) with russia numerous german troops were free to join the western front. The battle of Amiens, were the Alllies have been succesful started at august 1918. Before everything was open. And there was a real reason soldiers felt betrayed: the November revolution in germany. They felt they were betrayed at their "back". In summary the time were it was clear that germany will loose the war was probably only 2 or 3 month before the end. So it was not like you assume that german soldiers were since long time kept in line with propaganda whereas the war was already lost.
The situation that Ukraine is in is truly tragic. Ukrainians are a huge victims of this geopolitical competition. I wish it was not so and Ukrainians could achieve peace and well being without this sort of false choice of Russia versus West.😢
There is no competition here, Russia didn't start this war to gain anything it was a matter of protection of Russian state and of its citizens.
The best choice for Ukrainians would be to separate with lands where people actually speak Ukrainian. It was a bad idea to try to spread their nationalism and slogans like "Ukraine for Ukrainians" to lands populated by ethnic Russians. It's called ethnocide.
You can't reject people from speaking their language and keeping their culture and religion. It was a mistake.
When western people cry about Ukrainians, they don't know that a majority of them speak Russian and a big part of them support Russia. They were just left with no representation in the Ukrainian powers after the western instigated coup.
🇬🇧 💗 🇷🇺 Put Boris on trial. 🇬🇧 💗 🇷🇺
Protect this man at all costs.
Its a good thing that he was able to get out of Ukraine in time unfortunately it was sad for Gonzalo Lira, RIP.