Dozens of High Rises are Sinking in Florida

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  • Опубликовано: 23 янв 2025

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  • @nickc3856
    @nickc3856 21 день назад +1191

    I vaguely remember a parable about building houses on sand...

    • @Real.Estate.Report
      @Real.Estate.Report  21 день назад +84

      @@nickc3856 ahh yes… I think I know the one

    • @dtman315
      @dtman315 21 день назад

      But thise Christians do know that because they don't read their own book they claim to worship.

    • @markleo8155
      @markleo8155 20 дней назад +81

      Oh so castles made of sand, fall into the sea, eventually .....
      Jimi Hendrix

    • @Cheeseatingjunlista
      @Cheeseatingjunlista 20 дней назад +46

      Imagine if any of them had been actual Bible reading Christians, not just rattlesnake down pants crazies, they would have had a heads up

    • @gregpendrey6711
      @gregpendrey6711 19 дней назад +12

      Christians. Haha. 😂

  • @michaelmashburn6068
    @michaelmashburn6068 19 дней назад +428

    Never underestimate a contractors ability to cut corners either

    • @GoldSkye
      @GoldSkye 19 дней назад +16

      That should be number 1

    • @mrike5651
      @mrike5651 18 дней назад +2

      #BecauseMiami Billy Corbin knows best

    • @francismarion6400
      @francismarion6400 18 дней назад +3

      They came from NY, so yeah I wouldn't be surprised on account of that.

    • @steveo7006
      @steveo7006 15 дней назад

      Especially in Florida.

    • @greghight954
      @greghight954 14 дней назад +1

      Everyone cuts corners to make the people that pay them happy. It’s expensive to over engineer things and stuff doesn’t get built if it costs too much.

  • @brianjones9392
    @brianjones9392 20 дней назад +796

    Oh wow a foundation on sand isn't holding up? That's amazing.

    • @andreah6379
      @andreah6379 19 дней назад +18

      Especially limestone. It needs more study. That's all. 🤪😵‍💫💥

    • @nntflow7058
      @nntflow7058 19 дней назад +42

      There goes my tax money paying to bail out rich developers and stupid residents.

    • @alexander_no350
      @alexander_no350 19 дней назад

      @@nntflow7058Rich helping back🥂 Dont worry

    • @Inkling777
      @Inkling777 19 дней назад +9

      @@andreah6379 Yeah, limestone dissolves easily.

    • @benjamin7114
      @benjamin7114 19 дней назад +4

      Aren't the professionals are always right ....

  • @charleswillcock3235
    @charleswillcock3235 19 дней назад +471

    What is surprising is people are surprised that building on sand is not a good idea. Who would have thought that?

    • @Charlie-zj3hw
      @Charlie-zj3hw 19 дней назад +12

      It's not just built on sand it's built on the porous bedrock that compresses with the weight of the buildings .. I highly suggest you start using chat GPT so you can educate yourself before making an uninformed comment

    • @emjayay
      @emjayay 19 дней назад +5

      Did you and others even watch this one video? I hear that a house built of straw can be blown down by a wolf.

    • @Adiscretefirm
      @Adiscretefirm 19 дней назад

      You can build a house maybe

    • @harryviking6347
      @harryviking6347 19 дней назад

      🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @JohnPrepuce
      @JohnPrepuce 18 дней назад +1

      @@Adiscretefirm - maybe a cabana.

  • @saint-smash
    @saint-smash 19 дней назад +406

    Imagine building skyscrapers on a swamp than being surprised when they sink.

    • @jasonscottjenkins
      @jasonscottjenkins 19 дней назад +20

      Swamp? What swamp? They drained that swamp years ago. Why would that be an issue now? jk

    • @optionmillionaire
      @optionmillionaire 19 дней назад +12

      Give me my swamp back! - Some big green guy.

    • @itwasaliens
      @itwasaliens 19 дней назад +11

      Almost like they're just a money grab.

    • @itwasaliens
      @itwasaliens 19 дней назад +9

      Sell someone a home, home gets destroyed, sell home again, rinse and repeat.

    • @elaine1034
      @elaine1034 19 дней назад +6

      Mexico city was also built on swamp land and is sinking, slowly but surely.

  • @2011blueman
    @2011blueman 21 день назад +470

    This is like a study finding that water is wet and grass is green. Florida is well known for sinkholes and terrible limestone.

    • @psychokitty7268
      @psychokitty7268 20 дней назад +14

      Miami doesn't have many sinkholes. I'm in the Gainesville/Ocala area and we have a lot of problems up here.
      I knew someone that had to have holes opened in her floor and posts were put in and anchored to the bedrock.

    • @mikeabreu6882
      @mikeabreu6882 19 дней назад +3

      Exactly!

    • @cherryjuice9946
      @cherryjuice9946 19 дней назад +6

      This has nothing to do with sinkholes. Sinkholes are found along the I-4 / I-75 path.

    • @sharcon3891
      @sharcon3891 19 дней назад

      and I guess most of these were built before Climate Change News told us re the oceans rising about 5 feet pretty soon.

    • @Ekam-Sat
      @Ekam-Sat 19 дней назад +12

      @@psychokitty7268 Miami does have a giant sinkhole: it's called property tax.

  • @gerhardmarkus1358
    @gerhardmarkus1358 19 дней назад +158

    Those buildings where constructed to generate quick profit. Goal complete!

    • @GoldSkye
      @GoldSkye 19 дней назад +8

      The crooks will never be held accountable.

    • @cookie22100
      @cookie22100 18 дней назад +10

      Seems to still be happening all over the state. The cheap materials used to build homes these days should be illegal.

    • @steveo7006
      @steveo7006 15 дней назад

      Welcome to Florida

    • @terrymckenzie8786
      @terrymckenzie8786 3 дня назад

      Developers made their cash

    • @colicole123
      @colicole123 2 дня назад

      Bottomline.

  • @dbrew2u
    @dbrew2u 19 дней назад +124

    Should never have allowed any construction on the Beachside in Florida . But as in all cases Money talks regardless of the consequence .

    • @mrike5651
      @mrike5651 18 дней назад +2

      Morgan and Morgan knows the case they can win just call em

    • @longsleevethong1457
      @longsleevethong1457 16 дней назад

      Yeah and You should be able to build wherever you want and also simultaneously tell others where they can’t live….youre the most Americans thing I can think of….

    • @angelikaskoroszyn8495
      @angelikaskoroszyn8495 12 дней назад +2

      In my country there's a law designed to protect seaside from erosion and it's illegal to build directly at a beach. There needs to be a sand dune and tree line between the new build and beach
      Obviously some people push the boundaries as far as it's possibile but I think it's a great law to protect everyone

    • @CassandraMooree
      @CassandraMooree День назад

      @@mrike5651😭

    • @TeenWithACarrotIDK
      @TeenWithACarrotIDK 10 часов назад

      @@longsleevethong1457 huh?

  • @JiggidyJives
    @JiggidyJives 19 дней назад +203

    Having lived in South Beach I can say those high rises are a blight upon those beautiful beaches, and most of the occupants are as well.

    • @annanardo2358
      @annanardo2358 19 дней назад +17

      WELL PUT...HIGH RISES are a BLIGHT. And the overcrowding as well. This whole planet is OVERPOPULATED, all those babies have to come to a STOP for the good of this planet. 😠😡😠😡😠

    • @itnow
      @itnow 19 дней назад +14

      @@annanardo2358 overpopulation is the main problem for us to-day...but the economists are crying 'who's gonna pay for the retired'...psh

    • @Cooe.
      @Cooe. 18 дней назад +16

      ​@@itnow🤦 Overpopulation hasn't been a problem in the developed world for literally like an entire century. Underpopulation/demographic collapse is the MUCH bigger problem.

    • @itnow
      @itnow 18 дней назад +12

      @@Cooe. untill 2 to 3 billions ppl life was cool and sustainable.
      Those looking for a big sale market are claiming we need more consumers stuck in piled boxes with a garden to share with drug addicts. I've known 3 billions ppl when I was a child and nothing was really missing and we had plenty of place to live and hope .

    • @bender9222222222
      @bender9222222222 18 дней назад +7

      It's Florida, it's a blight on America 💀💀

  • @joelwalker6603
    @joelwalker6603 19 дней назад +118

    I have said this for years, anyone who builds or buys property next to any major waterway does so at their own risk. Sorry for those who got suckered you need to use more common sense something our society lacks in critical areas.

    • @raypitts4880
      @raypitts4880 19 дней назад +8

      to rich to learn common sense

    • @Fuckthis0341
      @Fuckthis0341 16 дней назад +2

      Yeah, too many development executives and buyers are willfully ignorant of basic geographic science fact. People want to believe that mountains and waterways are permanent but they're quite temporary. And moving.

    • @marchebert9813
      @marchebert9813 10 дней назад +1

      That's ok. Us taxpayers who are just scraping by will bail them out.

  • @frisbeeshawn5356
    @frisbeeshawn5356 19 дней назад +103

    Greed and Mother Nature aren't gonna work .. .

    • @HeatherEvans-p1i
      @HeatherEvans-p1i 19 дней назад +3

      That’s what I’m saying! That one mother storm that whole state will flood or continental drift will break it off into the ocean. I worry for both east and west coast . There’s things going on under our feet we are unaware of. I think we need to warn people to move more inward. Before purchasing a home have grounds surveyed. ❤❤parts of Texas too.. 👀😱

    • @tfolmer1234
      @tfolmer1234 19 дней назад +1

      @@HeatherEvans-p1i What an original thought!

  • @keithjansen1734
    @keithjansen1734 20 дней назад +95

    One scenario you did not mention is the most important to a civil engineer. Are all outer parts of the building sinking at the same rate? If not they wind up with uneven stress leading to collapse or the leaning tower of Pisa problem.

    • @VictorianMaid99
      @VictorianMaid99 17 дней назад

      Hilarious!

    • @Iflie
      @Iflie 13 дней назад +3

      Exactly, that's walls collapsing not just pipes bending or breaking. With far less shift than you'd think due to the huge pressures.

  • @Delta2099
    @Delta2099 21 день назад +199

    i just to work in Sunny isles, check the Porsche tower.., i used to overhear the engineers complain all the time about the slight tilt affecting the elevators , also window cleaners use to tell me that they could see cracks

    • @thechesburgerzrfzz808
      @thechesburgerzrfzz808 19 дней назад

      :O

    •  19 дней назад

      For several decades, Florida has been run by IDIOT REPUBLICANS that systematically "REDUCED REGULATIONS" in the construction industry that allowed these poorly ENGINEERED towers to be built. SO... just like the buildings around the collapse several years ago, all the buildings will be inspected and the cost of all the damage from lack of inspections will be added to the owner's mortgage to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars. See, that what happens when you hire a bunch of corrupt politicians to make sure high rise buildings are properly built.

    • @mrike5651
      @mrike5651 18 дней назад +3

      If randy savage was still alive he'd be moving out and moving west of miami.

  • @WorldTravelerNX01
    @WorldTravelerNX01 19 дней назад +54

    Condo values are not only declining, but the condos themselves are also deteriorating!

    • @Fordance100
      @Fordance100 18 дней назад +4

      Some of these buildings require large amount repair money to meet new standard, which requires owners to pay 50K, 100k, 150k immediately. I guess banks don't want loan money to them.

    • @Jza-GZa40k
      @Jza-GZa40k 16 дней назад +3

      @@Fordance100 Yes, because it’s not permanent,It’s inevitable they will have issues and sink so why “sink” so much money into faulty buildings.

    • @longsleevethong1457
      @longsleevethong1457 16 дней назад

      Iol…try to buy one with your broke arse wallet lol

  • @msj9097
    @msj9097 21 день назад +58

    Who could've guessed that building huge skyscrapers in a swamp and beach could be a problem???? I'm shocked I tell you, SHOCKED

    • @peterswatton7400
      @peterswatton7400 21 день назад +4

      Doesn't matter if they are built in sand or shit. What does the foundations go down to? What are the implications of climate change, sea level rise?

    • @cherryjuice9946
      @cherryjuice9946 19 дней назад +3

      The condos aren't built on swamp. Swamp was further inland. The coastal areas are primarily sand, but regardless of how much compacting they do, a condo weighs a lot and will put a big squeeze on it.

    • @Jza-GZa40k
      @Jza-GZa40k 16 дней назад

      @@peterswatton7400 Plus storms

  • @melaniephillips4238
    @melaniephillips4238 19 дней назад +109

    Another point that you didn't cover noted by the NASA study is that part of the subsidence is in response to the effect of the former Laurentide Ice sheet that once covered the Northeast. Even though it was tens of thousands of years ago, that's just a blink in geologic time. The ice sheet was close to half a mile thick from top to bottom over New York state, and the weight of that ice depressed the land in the northeastern region, while causing the region to the south to bulge upward. As the Laurentide melted and withdrew, the slow process of isostatic adjustment -- the re-balancing between the two regions-- started, slow and hardly discernable from our fleeting point of view, but continuous over time, and that process is still continuing today, with the northeast rising and the southeast sinking. That's another component to add to the mix of the weight of skyscrapers and sea level rise.
    Also, to the earlier commentor who stated they had lived in Miami Beach for 47 years and nothing has changed -- I accept your point of view, but as someone who has lived for 70 years in several areas of the southeastern US and visited many others, I have seen multiple changes on our coastline. When I was a child living outside Charleston, we never saw the Market area flood unless there was a hurricane. Now it floods with heavy rain or during a king tide. We also visited the Outer banks in NC often, and saw old roads half eaten by high tides even then; now Rodanthe Beach on Cape Hatteras is losing beach houses to the sea that was once over a football field length away at high tide. The only constant of the Earth is change, and coastlines usually see it first. Florida is also the sinkhole capital of the US -- and not just on the coast -- because of the vast increase of the pumping of ground water from the porous limestone aquifer to accommodate the surging population growth. Miami is investing huge sums into coastal protection, but I don't think even Dutch engineers can stop sinkhole formation and isostatic adjustment.

    • @Beastlife50
      @Beastlife50 19 дней назад +9

      The coastline issue is actually a reasonably easy fix, but people aren't smart enough, determined enough, and willing to pay for millions of gallons of water per hour to be desalinized. Instead, we get water from aquafirs that damage the structure of the ground. Obviously, the desalination plants are expensive, but cost has come down to $2 per 1000 gallons. This water could be used to solve a lot of water issues the world has.

    • @bb1111116
      @bb1111116 19 дней назад +5

      In addition to all of that, the sea level is gradually rising.

    • @tanside979
      @tanside979 19 дней назад

      @@bb1111116 Al Gore is that you?

    • @sblumenstein6688
      @sblumenstein6688 18 дней назад +6

      Native Americans never set up too close to a bank or coast, and they only had tents.

    • @nikkibee187
      @nikkibee187 18 дней назад +3

      Well, this is a real estate channel. These people only care about facts when it's too late and they lose lots of money over these facts.

  • @surfstarcc1
    @surfstarcc1 21 день назад +216

    Well Florida is a giant Sandbar....

    • @andreah6379
      @andreah6379 19 дней назад +17

      Add: Sinking. Sinking sandbar.

    • @josealamo8282
      @josealamo8282 19 дней назад +6

      BINGO!!!!!…..

    • @r.pres.4121
      @r.pres.4121 19 дней назад +9

      Along with Louisiana and the Yucatán Peninsula. All low laying, marshy sandbars.

    • @Beastlife50
      @Beastlife50 19 дней назад +1

      Not nearly

    • @don-tl6hu
      @don-tl6hu 18 дней назад +2

      Lived in Florida for a year and a few of us went out to an area they used to go all the time and they told me back then 1996 it was sinking and where we were used to be small dunes.

  • @benrositas8068
    @benrositas8068 19 дней назад +44

    King of Swamp Castle: When I first came here, this was all swamp. Everyone said I was daft to build a castle on a swamp, but I built in all the same, just to show them. It sank into the swamp. So I built a second one. That sank into the swamp. So I built a third. That burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp. But the fourth one stayed up. And that's what you're going to get, Lad, the strongest castle in all of England.

    • @elaine1034
      @elaine1034 19 дней назад +5

      Wasn't there a land bridge beween England and France at one time many thousands of years ago? I vaguely remember them showing a video of how they discovered it, by sonar or satelittes images.

    • @michellewalters4484
      @michellewalters4484 18 дней назад

      One in how many??

    • @Notpublic4719
      @Notpublic4719 18 дней назад +4

      The difference between the swamp in England versus Miami is that the English swamp has a clay foundation while Miami has a coral limestone foundation that has holes that process water. That’s why Miami floods all the time even without rain.

    • @Yora21
      @Yora21 18 дней назад +2

      @@elaine1034 Half of the North Sea was above water at the end of the ice age. You could walk from Denmark to England. In some places, the North Sea is still only 15 meters deep, even 100 kilometers from any land.

    • @elaine1034
      @elaine1034 18 дней назад +1

      @@Yora21 Thanks. I thought I'd seen it somewhere.

  • @englundus
    @englundus 19 дней назад +36

    How to stop the skyscrapers from sinking? Don't build them!

  • @longsleevethong1457
    @longsleevethong1457 16 дней назад +10

    If you look at Destin Florida, a large building(emerald grande) was built on the harbor and the building has settled and shifted more than expected. The pool on the upper level of the building developed a leaking crack which drained into the parking decks below for 2 years. The building also shifted the surrounding sand and underlying earth so much that it also shifted the Destin bridge which had to be reinforced later by the state. You can see the reinforcements of the bridge on the west side bridge piers.

  • @KC-Mitch
    @KC-Mitch 18 дней назад +14

    I studied engineering for a couple years at Valencia College in Orlando. Because it was a Florida college, a lot of the more detailed aspects centered on the state itself. My favorite class was the _Building Foundations_ course they had (don't remember the exact name). It went extensively into Florida's geology.
    Interestingly, no part of the state has any reachable bedrock. When inspecting slab concrete pours here in Kansas city, I remember some sloped terrains comprised of clay, so dozens of holes were augered out for piers as deep as 30-50ft (10-16m). We would take these 50ft pieces of rebar (which were Hella expensive) and drop them in the hole to hear a _clank._ If no _clank_ noise, we had the auger drill again.
    I Florida, no such engineering method exists. For large buildings (I wanna say dove 5 floors, but it could also be based on weight and footprint of building and specific geology) and virtually all bridge overpasses, piles (big steel beams similar to those inside skyscrapers) are just ruthlessly beaten into the ground. The logic is, after a certain depth, all soils are packed down as well as saturated with some groundwater from years and years of rainfall, amongst other things. If I drive these beams into the ground, the packed soil won't come undone, but instead just pack closer together between the piles. Sometimes this pushes out water, sometimes it just compresses microscopic air pockets further. This pressure creates a force that wants to eventually push up (as there is least resistance). But building a heavy structure on top of the soil and piles creates a force that holds the soil in place.
    The biggest issue I've learned about with this process is that it's all trial and error. It used to be much worse as people did all these calculations by hand, but computers have made it easier to analyze the soil strength compared to weight. Usually, it comes down to not understanding the soil well enough and the effects of _super-saturation._ This is when the soil absorbs more water than it can displace and the land goes from being stable to a slurry mixture. Like wet dirt turning into inches of mud.

  • @theodorejay1046
    @theodorejay1046 19 дней назад +37

    Yes there's old technology known for this problem. It's call driving pilings down to bed rock or don't build there 😡

    • @r.pres.4121
      @r.pres.4121 19 дней назад +5

      Like they do in Chicago, New York, and Boston.

    • @jamesbrooks5442
      @jamesbrooks5442 19 дней назад

      The limestone bedrock is porous and unstable stupid to build there

    • @Notpublic4719
      @Notpublic4719 18 дней назад +9

      Problem is Miami doesn’t have a bedrock foundation, rather a coral limestone foundation with holes in it that allow water to seep into it. That’s why Miami floods all the time.

    • @theodorejay1046
      @theodorejay1046 18 дней назад +8

      @@Notpublic4719 ... Yep my second point ... or don't build there ... at least tall buildings 😁

  • @LilyIndigoBlu89
    @LilyIndigoBlu89 19 дней назад +51

    When you build your house on sand…

    • @larryspiller6633
      @larryspiller6633 19 дней назад +2

      Believe it or not, not all sand is created equal. Some sand is actually quite good for building on. In my area it is preferred because of it's grain and aggregate composition here. Not so much on this beach in Florida.

  • @SpencerCornelia
    @SpencerCornelia 20 дней назад +36

    i feel like there will be 90% discounts in some spots on the beach in florida by 2040 lol

    • @NightmareRex6
      @NightmareRex6 18 дней назад +1

      and as the coast errodse and grows closer the cheaper areas go up becuase now ocean front.

  • @Mike_Davidson
    @Mike_Davidson 21 день назад +61

    I gotta sinking feeling about all this sinking going on. 😱😱😱

  • @Matt-fq6ly
    @Matt-fq6ly 21 день назад +92

    When I first saw vids of the Porsche design tower and now the Bentley residences, where not only is it a luxury apartments, but each one can hold 2-4 cars on each floor with the car elevator, I remember thinking how is all that weight not gonna cause problems. It’s like a luxury high rise with a filled Carvana car tower inside. Crazy weight right next to the beach……

    • @JJ-in3bc
      @JJ-in3bc 21 день назад +3

      It will be OK... you just have to remember to swap out the marshmallows, but it's just in leap years! 🤣🤣🤣

    • @stevez5134
      @stevez5134 20 дней назад +3

      @@JJ-in3bc Hector is going to be running 3 Honda Civics with spoon engines. And on top of that he just came into Harry's and he ordered 3 T66 turbos, with NOS, and a Motec system exhaust

    • @z352kdaf8324
      @z352kdaf8324 19 дней назад +5

      All those EVs weigh too much.

    • @storminnordman9596
      @storminnordman9596 19 дней назад

      @@z352kdaf8324 lmao. If you think the people who live in that sort of place actually buy those, have I got a bridge to sell ya!

    • @VictorianMaid99
      @VictorianMaid99 17 дней назад +1

      It will tip over in time!

  • @AFAskygoddess
    @AFAskygoddess 20 дней назад +51

    Port Orange, Florida doesn't have a single highrise. The cities adjacent to us do.
    Looks like our city planners got something right. I'm loving my one story duplex. ❤😂

    • @rogergeyer9851
      @rogergeyer9851 19 дней назад +2

      Geology affects building standards MANY places. In and around NYC, for example, lots of rock prevents the skyscrapers being built various places, making it uneconomic.

    • @ohhgodineedmoore2845
      @ohhgodineedmoore2845 18 дней назад +1

      I take it they imposed a 35-50ft height restriction in that area?

  • @keegannunley5444
    @keegannunley5444 15 дней назад +11

    Man! Every time I hear about Florida it's always terrible. The insurance is out of control, a sinkhole swallowed the old man on the toilet, that's after the alligator and boa constrictor poked in dangerously close for a snack. Oh boy here's the destructive tornarrocane and property ruining floods. Oh everyone is dying of the plague but we're in business as usual. Oh wait.... Monkey pox, leprosy on the prowl in Miami. Like fk! And people want some of that. Well maybe the governor is paying attention....fk!

    • @Tampa_tom
      @Tampa_tom 9 дней назад

      Best state out of all of them

    • @kaitlin4u
      @kaitlin4u 2 дня назад

      I will never leave 😂

  • @TheRumblewagon
    @TheRumblewagon 19 дней назад +18

    Don't pay one cent to "fix" these sinking cities. The citizens will simply have to abandon them. Lesson learned.

    • @DoNotEatPoo
      @DoNotEatPoo 19 дней назад

      We haven't learned from New Orleans either

  • @mikapeltokorpi7671
    @mikapeltokorpi7671 19 дней назад +22

    Almost like there should be ... building regulations.

    • @sblumenstein6688
      @sblumenstein6688 18 дней назад

      Don’t worry. T**** and DeSantis will get rid of any pesky regulations that are left.

    • @hightower6645
      @hightower6645 9 дней назад

      I know, and you'd think that they would study the topography on where they're building.

  • @mbnvaas
    @mbnvaas 21 день назад +49

    I'll hold off on that Duplex in PORSCHE Tower......😂

  • @SloMoMonday
    @SloMoMonday 17 дней назад +5

    Where I live it's pretty clear that inner city buildings have sunk, but the road is still where it was.
    Few years back something snapped and a central street just folded in to the void underneath. Keep seeing more and more potholes into nothing and street lights tipping but the city seems more concerned with changing street names, making "mistakes" on utility bills and gentrifying already up market neighborhoods.

  • @jonny-b4954
    @jonny-b4954 19 дней назад +21

    Because they didn't build them right and built them on the cheap with cheap labor. Trying to fill EVERY plot of land so even the plots that really shouldn't be built on, are. Didn't work with neighboring properties for proper drainage etc. etc. Let's also not forget Florida has no bedrock. It's literally just sand.

  • @mikethespike7579
    @mikethespike7579 18 дней назад +5

    It's all just greed. My son, a civil engineer, told me that depending on the ground good foundations can take up half the cost of construction. Of course companies don't want to pay that, they want to build as cheap as possible and then sell for as high a price as possible. They don't care if the foundations are crap, they won't be around by the time anyone notices it.

  • @robertfarrimond3369
    @robertfarrimond3369 19 дней назад +6

    Sand and soil is not static, it's dynamic. In many situations, prior to construction, they preload the site with soil to compress the underlying material so as to avoid post construction subsidence. But, keep in mind that much of the bedrock in Florida is limestone which can me degraded by changing PH levels. The Atlantic ocean Ph levels have been decreasing due to the absorption of CO2, making it more acidic. I guess we won't really know until someone decides it's a big enough problem get more enthusiastic about possibly solving or avoiding the problem.

    • @steveshea6148
      @steveshea6148 9 дней назад +1

      Good point about pH. I'd be more concerned about pH of rainfall affecting groundwater in the near term than ocean pH though, although that is certainly slowly dropping.

  • @NomadinBroward
    @NomadinBroward 17 дней назад +8

    Good that's what i call karma for messing with the Homeless.

    • @redpillqueen8888
      @redpillqueen8888 4 дня назад

      The people who live on the beach mess with the homeless? Omg stop 🙄🤡

  • @TheBeingReal
    @TheBeingReal 19 дней назад +21

    Shocking that DeSantis did not snuff that report.

  • @ginge82
    @ginge82 21 день назад +10

    Wow, you must have read my mind! Miami penthouse tour vids are constantly recommended to me on YT and I was amazed how they can even build there and why sinking isn't a bigger issue.

    • @Yora21
      @Yora21 18 дней назад +2

      "In Fact: It was an issue."

  • @peternolan4107
    @peternolan4107 19 дней назад +7

    Just another reason to never live in Florida...

  • @cristibaluta
    @cristibaluta 21 день назад +21

    Who would have thought...

  • @HansOvervoorde
    @HansOvervoorde 19 дней назад +37

    It is advised to hire engineers from The Netherlands to prevent this. They are experienced with building fundaments for very large buildings that remain stable on even far less solid ground.

    • @AlanOwens-r9w
      @AlanOwens-r9w 19 дней назад +6

      Great Comment from some Experience, America doesn't care about anything but Cheap Italian Construction..

    • @rogergeyer9851
      @rogergeyer9851 19 дней назад +3

      Things like how much builders want to spend likely is a bigger issue than basic engineering know-how.

    • @etorepugatti9196
      @etorepugatti9196 19 дней назад

      They asked, the answer was: "Built someplace else..."

    • @juicyfruit4378
      @juicyfruit4378 18 дней назад +4

      HA! America will never ask the Netherlands, despite their expertise in these things, to assist. It was the Dutch who said that the current levees and dams presently built around New Orleans will not hold as the grounds themselves are sinking - do you think the US Army Corps of Engineers listened? Not a chance. America will not invest in "preventive maintenance" but rather double the price for subsequent maintenance which makes no sense.

  • @BekkaPoo
    @BekkaPoo 18 дней назад +9

    When cocaine profits and money laundering collides with civil engineering and construction. Stay classy Florida.

  • @VibrationsfromMirror
    @VibrationsfromMirror 19 дней назад +10

    Used to have deep rooted water cypress trees to anchor the lands, naturally.

    • @sblumenstein6688
      @sblumenstein6688 18 дней назад +1

      Also the swamps absorbed the flood waters.

  • @RichAction
    @RichAction 21 день назад +37

    Oh let's build on a beach it will be ok. 1 year later "it's sinking" 😅😂

  • @bonnielovely
    @bonnielovely 14 дней назад +1

    i went to boyton beach a couple years ago to my favorite old beach spot (from maybe 6-8 years prior). there was no sand left. the stairs from the (luxury) apartments area that used to lead down to the sand & onto the beach now led directly into the water. it was terrifying.
    the buildings are literally sinking into the sea, and not just the expensive millionaire high-rises, that’s also smaller homes & many local businesses

  • @mr.be.5630
    @mr.be.5630 19 дней назад +12

    Not the smartest move building on sand so close to the sea and in a place where sinkholes are prevalent

  • @gulfstream-tvstudios9546
    @gulfstream-tvstudios9546 20 дней назад +54

    thank God that only millionaires are living in these scrapers, they can handle it and pay for ...🎉

    • @davemojarra4734
      @davemojarra4734 19 дней назад +4

      The regular folks pay because of higher insurance.

    • @scottblackburn2969
      @scottblackburn2969 19 дней назад +8

      Govt winds up with bill for cleanup when it finally collapses.

    • @vapsa56
      @vapsa56 19 дней назад

      Nope, they won't pay. They will get their paid for politicians to use taxpayer money to fix it.

    • @missinformed4269
      @missinformed4269 19 дней назад +10

      The very rich can petition for a Federal bailout.

    • @Jin420
      @Jin420 13 дней назад +1

      They'll ask for govt handout...
      As if they'll actually use their $ when they can get tax dollars.

  • @EduardQualls
    @EduardQualls 19 дней назад +22

    RE: Cities list @7:46. Venice is sinking largely because it's on the north Adriatic slab that is gradually subducting under the Alps: its sinking is inevitable, and not manmade. You also didn't mention the fact that *nearly half of Red China's cities are sinking faster than 3 mm a year.* Some areas of Beijing and Shanghai are sinking at 10 mm or more per year. *Beijing's cumulative subsidence is up to 1.5 m (5 ft), while parts of Shanghai have sunk more than 3 m (9' 10") since 1921.* The main problem in CCP-land is the over-extraction of ground water, creating wide-spreading subsidence "cones" of sinking earth. Shanghai's oversaturation with skyscrapers has contributed to its problems. Xi Jinping also wasted $128B to build Xiong'an New Area in a swamp: it's not built on sand, but on sludge.

    • @surgeinc1
      @surgeinc1 19 дней назад +4

      Jakarta is also sinking and a new capital is being built a fair distance away to replace it.

    • @sblumenstein6688
      @sblumenstein6688 18 дней назад +3

      I’m so surprised this is happening in Mainland China. They are well-known for the quality of their products.

    • @VictorianMaid99
      @VictorianMaid99 17 дней назад

      That is hilarious!

    • @VictorianMaid99
      @VictorianMaid99 17 дней назад

      ​@sblumenstein6688 China quality is the best on earth.

  • @WBS001
    @WBS001 18 дней назад +3

    Limestone is soluble in water. This limestone is adjacent to AND beneath the ocean. Who could possibly have realized that this might lead to a problem? Hasn't anyone in Florida heard of sinkholes (due to limestone dissolving under ground and allowing water to flow leading to the sinkholes?) In Manhattan, everything is within 1 mile of two rivers. Also, everything is standing on the bedrock that is 70 feet beneath the ground. Bedrock. Not limestone.

  • @Yora21
    @Yora21 18 дней назад +6

    Building skyscrapers on a sand bar? What could go wrong.

  • @gulfstream-tvstudios9546
    @gulfstream-tvstudios9546 20 дней назад +9

    ...sinking is ok , but leaning is more than dangerous ...

  • @8.4V10
    @8.4V10 19 дней назад +6

    I’m from south Florida around Fort Myers growing up with downtown Fort Myers being built further inland unlike downtown Miami being built right on the beach has never made sense to me.

    • @Yora21
      @Yora21 18 дней назад

      I believe it's similar with New Orleans. When it floods, it's the new neighborhoods that get flooded. The first people who settled in the area knew to build their houses on the hills.

  • @CarlWithACamera
    @CarlWithACamera 20 дней назад +10

    He meant to say, “100s of billions of dollars worth of damages.”

    • @kimweaver1252
      @kimweaver1252 19 дней назад +1

      Not only are the buildings going to require a mountain of money in the ATTEMPT to save them.... and many of the attempts will fail, so a total loss........ but the LAND will be worthless, too.

  • @DanFrederiksen
    @DanFrederiksen 21 день назад +8

    GPT says miami lime is 50% porous so it's possible that high weight can progressively crunch the porous weak structures. Maybe accelerated by strong winds shifting the weight of the building around. Southern florida doesn't strike me as particularly robust on a good day so skyscrapers on the beach might not have been a great idea. And if that sinking isn't uniform and the foundation isn't super rigid you could imagine sudden catastrophic failures. although if they are purely steel buildings they might handle a bit of warping. concrete elements wont. when they are this tall you might not get progressive warning like they did for years with Champlain. if you see anything wrong, it's time to go

  • @marktito6169
    @marktito6169 21 день назад +73

    I've lived in Miami Beach for 47 years....and Absolutely Nothing has changed.

    • @tomjakes-eo9nr
      @tomjakes-eo9nr 21 день назад +6

      literally

    • @ephemer1125
      @ephemer1125 21 день назад +21

      how has nothing changed? It probably hurts when you wake up in the morning and you're 47 years closer to dying.

    • @ephemer1125
      @ephemer1125 21 день назад +3

      @@tomjakes-eo9nr Super literally Becky?

    • @ephemer1125
      @ephemer1125 21 день назад +4

      @@tomjakes-eo9nr Or just like totally literally Becky?

    • @CarlWithACamera
      @CarlWithACamera 20 дней назад +35

      Someone is not paying attention if they haven’t noticed any changes to a place in 47 years.

  • @beth_9214
    @beth_9214 19 дней назад +6

    The thing about sinking buildings is that, it could take years for something to happen, or it could take a snap, because the unevenness of the structure, if not controlled, could be enough to put the whole building down, because the weight must be evenly distributed among slabs, beams and pillars!!! However, at this rate, we could be seen skyscrapers coming down pretty soon!!! Because when it comes to engineering 1 extra inch at the wrong place, has the potential to cause a lot of damage!!!

  • @lesterchua2677
    @lesterchua2677 19 дней назад +7

    Since the sea is not rising, let’s sink to make the prophecies come true!

  • @KC-Mitch
    @KC-Mitch 18 дней назад +2

    Another thing I realized was that the limestone slowly errodes (yes, from natural erosion like winds and waves, but also) from acidic solutions to even weak alkaline bases. Limestone _literally starts to dissolve_ around 7.5ph to 8ph (7 being neutral). Historically, ocean salt water had a ph _average_ of only 8.25. Arguably, the ph has since dropped to about 8.1 over the last two centuries due to carbon emissions. CO2 will naturally mix into water and acidify it like a club soda (though never to that extreme).
    Every time there is a storm surge, that water creeps onto land and absorbs into the soil. Chemically corroding it. The limestone dissolves partly into CO2 gas, which is more compressible, causing a foundation to sick, sometimes unevenly. It'll sink to a side as water doesn't absorb as well under the concrete foundation slab compared to the surrounding soil.

  • @caseyscott5015
    @caseyscott5015 20 дней назад +11

    If this is such an issue, why are new projects being allowed to move forward with construction? Also if this is such an issue why are local municipalities signing off on the construction permits? This is either not as big of an issue as they are letting on, or something is being covered up.

    • @kimweaver1252
      @kimweaver1252 19 дней назад +16

      Money. The reason permits are issued and zoning is not enforced more is Money. Money. Mo Money.

    • @andreah6379
      @andreah6379 19 дней назад +5

      Money to be made, go to FL! Pay off those politicians and you are good!

    • @davemojarra4734
      @davemojarra4734 19 дней назад +7

      Corruption.

    • @jillspangler5139
      @jillspangler5139 18 дней назад +2

      As long as lobbists lobby permits will be issued. Human life is of zero concern. Fema has demonstrated this several times in the last 4 years. If the lobbist want it, it is theirs. No concern for human life or the environment.

  • @Aikynbreusov
    @Aikynbreusov 18 дней назад +3

    Cities are sinking around the world.... London, Amsterdam, Los Angeles, Mexico City, Bangkok, Kuala Lumpur, Dhakar, Mumbai, Venice, NYC, Cairo, Ho Chi Ming City, Phnom Penh, Shanghai, Tokyo, etc are examples of sinking cities around the world

    • @DoctorInsomnia-qw7us
      @DoctorInsomnia-qw7us 8 дней назад

      Don't forget New Orleans, it's below sea level, from Jackson Square you can actually see the freight ships on the Mississippi a couple of feet above you....

  • @paulblack8887
    @paulblack8887 18 дней назад +5

    The developer's cheque cleared, so what's the problem?

    • @Aaron-ul1gr
      @Aaron-ul1gr 2 дня назад

      Exactly. Exploit it and maximize profits on it till it doesn’t work. Thats capitalism for ya

  • @geofflepper3207
    @geofflepper3207 19 дней назад +1

    Someone else mentioned the continuing impact of the loss of the glaciers that covered the northern part of the continent thousands of years ago but just to explain that with an analogy consider the following.
    You may notice that when you sit on a bed the soft mattress naturally sinks below your weight but the edges of the mattress around you may actually rise (depending on the type of mattress).
    When you then get up off of the mattress the part where you were sitting rises up again
    and the part of the mattress around the edges falls back again.
    Apparently in a similar fashion when extremely thick ice sheets covered much of the continent they pushed down the ground underneath them but just like with some mattresses the weight in the middle of the continent caused the edge of the continent next to the sea
    which had no glacier on it to rise up just like the edge of the mattress did.
    Then after the glaciers melted and retreated the ground that had been under the ice sheet started to rise back up again while the areas near the coasts started to fall back again.
    Amazingly this process takes a very long time and so today thousands of years after the
    ice sheet is gone the process is still going on.
    That means that at some places along the coasts there is a problem
    not only with the impact of the weight of buildings and sea level rise
    and possibly worse rain storms and worse storm surge in hurricanes
    but also with the fact that the coastline is still sinking due to the
    continuing impact of the loss of glaciers.
    Apparently, the city of Washington is one of the cities that faces the potential of
    increased future flooding for a number of reasons including the continuing impact from
    the melting of the ice sheet long, long ago.

  • @vldon5931
    @vldon5931 20 дней назад +9

    damn'... I was just looking at some penthouses în Porsche Tower... 😮😂

  • @aegaeon117
    @aegaeon117 14 дней назад +1

    Build like New York even though New York sits on slate, SF on trash and Miami on sand. Brilliant.

  • @oldkid6
    @oldkid6 19 дней назад +4

    so much for buying an over priced high rise condo with insane HOA fees and now an endless money pit of special assessments owner's will have to pay for

  • @thegoldengatesound
    @thegoldengatesound 17 дней назад

    San Francisco here, foundation settlement is very common in the Bay Area, both vertical and lateral considering more than half the structures are on hillsides. Grading, compaction, and proper underpinning during pre construction is paramount. Installing piles after it’s built is much harder and costlier

  • @MADGUNSMONSTER
    @MADGUNSMONSTER 18 дней назад +3

    Not trying to be a Negative Nancy, but building along Oceans, Streams, Rivers, Tributaries, and Lakes is not the greatest idea when weather & water are undefeated.

  • @oktc68
    @oktc68 18 дней назад +5

    Rich people's buildings. I'm not seeing a problem here.

    • @Aaron-ul1gr
      @Aaron-ul1gr 2 дня назад

      Rich peoples buildings, millions of every day peoples homes are in those buildings though…

  • @joevelte4252
    @joevelte4252 20 дней назад +7

    such massive structures on unstable land.

  • @thetrainwreck1469
    @thetrainwreck1469 17 дней назад +2

    Good! They are all eyesores! No one can even see the beach anymore! Bring back the old mom and pop hotels!

  • @jeffhack6839
    @jeffhack6839 18 дней назад +4

    Good thing the soil does not freeze.
    Frost heave would be icing on the cake.
    Cheers.

  • @doogandoggin2571
    @doogandoggin2571 18 дней назад +3

    This is land that never should have been built upon.

  • @anniep7627
    @anniep7627 15 дней назад +1

    I'm not surprised that this is happening. That sounds likely, it's inevitable. Any structures along the coast line will erode at some point. What surprises me is, why are they surprised?

  • @lewis7315
    @lewis7315 18 дней назад +5

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ right now is all that matters to the builders and their lawmaker buddies.

  • @DesertSessions93
    @DesertSessions93 18 дней назад +2

    Nobody is questioning why sand and limestone are found in layers...

  • @rinner2801
    @rinner2801 18 дней назад +3

    Really smart place to build. I'm sure the wealthy owners will make out just fine though.

  • @lewisak8
    @lewisak8 15 дней назад +2

    These were built on sandy soil and anyone surprised is a fool! These people should have never bought there!

  • @johnhudson9167
    @johnhudson9167 21 день назад +9

    And so castles made of sand…

    • @tukek88
      @tukek88 21 день назад +4

      fall in to the sea... eventually. -Jimi

  • @TheDwightMamba
    @TheDwightMamba 17 дней назад

    When I lived in South Beach, I rented on the 1st floor of a 2 story building. 12th and Pennsylvania.
    That 1 bedroom was $800/month in 2001. I wonder how much it costs now.

  • @vgernyc
    @vgernyc 19 дней назад +3

    It's a game of what one can get away with before one passes away naturally.

  • @Bell-et1lg
    @Bell-et1lg 14 дней назад +2

    There is no bedrock under Florida just lime stone. And the lime stone is eroding.

  • @kathrynelkin1519
    @kathrynelkin1519 20 дней назад +3

    No one should be surprised by this.🙄

  • @formula1fancolorado632
    @formula1fancolorado632 10 дней назад

    I was on a high rise tower new construction project in Sunny Isles. That building sank 18" DURING construction. That was 15 years ago.

  • @Chef42
    @Chef42 21 день назад +7

    I find it really interesting to hear that what is essentially photogrammetry is accurate to an 0.125 inches. Thats an order of accuracy and precision that I havn't heard of before. Also what I find interesting is that they apparently havn't backed this up with field work. I have done this level of work (both in accuracy, precision, and scope) before. It only takes maybe 2 weeks of work to back this up with accurate information.

    • @jrochest4642
      @jrochest4642 20 дней назад +1

      But then they wouldn't be able to sell the condos!!! 😓😓

  • @HaydenBowles
    @HaydenBowles 19 дней назад

    Excellent breakdown of this story!

  • @albeit1
    @albeit1 21 день назад +3

    Nassim Taleb pointed out years ago that optimization increases the severity of unexpected events.
    These high rises are highly optimized. A shack in the woods, not so much.

  • @javacup912
    @javacup912 18 дней назад

    I lived for a year or so in Satellite Beach, FL, but on a single home property on a foundation, on the beach..The city had an ordinance that buildings on the beach side could not be higher than 6 stories high, and there were gaps in between buildings often of at least 100 yards, which is why Satellite Beach is not a tourist spot, so locals enjoy the empty beaches, sometimes a quarter mile when you see a person walking the dog or just chilling, and that's from Patrick AFB, down to almost Melbourne. I loved living there, but moved out for a job opportunity. Never cared for anything from West Palm Beach to South Miami.

  • @johnmca5643
    @johnmca5643 19 дней назад +6

    "Trump Tower 3 is sinking". Trump will find a way to blame immigrants crossing an open border. Such a bonehead.

  • @user-zx8de8op9l
    @user-zx8de8op9l 18 дней назад +2

    I think they just wanted to make as much money as possible by building upon ocean front property, whether or not the land is stable or not.

  • @annanardo2358
    @annanardo2358 19 дней назад +4

    Florida is too over built. Builders weren't thinking when they built all those high rises. Florida shouldn't look like awful New York City. 😡😡😡 Florida is a Peninsula of sand. Of course all that weight is going to sink in that sand. Too many high rises. Because high rises make money for builders and buyers it's become a really BIG problem. Now Florida is becoming overpopulated because of it. 😠😡😠. I loved Florida but buying a place there is now out of the question. Miami is constantly flooded. All those building should NEVER have been built there. New York City is ugly because of all those big ass stone scrapers, blocking out the sun. Wouldn't live in N.Y.C. if they gave me a Penthouse for free. It's over crowded, dark and gloomy. 😝😝😝😝 Florida was beautiful until all those builders came in and ruined it. 😡😡😠😠😈👿. All because there was money to make. Now it's full of sink holes as well. Remember, it's a peninsula, a SAND BAR.. 😡😵😵😵😵😵😵

  • @scottnichols3685
    @scottnichols3685 День назад

    As a former resident from the 1990s-early 2010s on Miami Beach, I watched these huge skyscrapers go up. They ALWAYS made me very nervous.

  • @timeless33333
    @timeless33333 20 дней назад +4

    So they didn't build those on bedrock?

  • @Lilcurious1
    @Lilcurious1 17 дней назад +2

    High-rise residents better start saving up, because they're going to have a big special assessment coming up! 💰💰💰💰💰💰💰

  • @ClarkeGriffiny7
    @ClarkeGriffiny7 6 дней назад +5

    I think it's time to make it more appealing for potential buyers. Real estate can be quite the rollercoaster! the stress and uncertainty are getting to me. I think I'll cut rents to attract potential buyers and exit the market, but i'm at crossroads if to allocate the entire $680k liquidity value to my stock portfolio?

    • @JacobsErick-u8r
      @JacobsErick-u8r 6 дней назад +3

      "Overall, buyers hold a lot of the cards right now, and sellers are having to give out more concessions to close a deal." All the best, buying on sale is actually one of the best ways to invest in stocks, and advisors are ideally suited for such task

    • @MattsMkia
      @MattsMkia 6 дней назад +2

      Until the Fed clamps down even further I think we're going to see hysteria due to rampant inflation. If you are in cross roads or need sincere advise on the best moves to take now with financial markets will be best you seek a fin-professional with fiduciary responsibilities who knows about mortgage-backed securities for proper guidance.

    • @sharonwinson-m8g
      @sharonwinson-m8g 6 дней назад +3

      this sounds considerable! think you know any advisors i can get on the phone with? i'm in dire need of proper portfolio allocation

    • @MattsMkia
      @MattsMkia 6 дней назад +2

      There are a handful of experts in the field. I've experimented with a few over the past years, but I've stuck with ‘’ Lisa Grace Myer” for about five years now, and her performance has been consistently impressive. She’s quite known in her field, look-her up.

    • @BellamyGriffin19
      @BellamyGriffin19 6 дней назад +1

      She appears to be well-educated and well-read. I ran a Google search on her name and came across her website; thank you for sharing.

  • @Richard-i3f4w
    @Richard-i3f4w 10 часов назад +1

    No matter what level of stupidity in Florida, they will continue to demand that the federal government bail them out!

  • @NuncNuncNuncNunc
    @NuncNuncNuncNunc 20 дней назад +6

    Bedrock? We don't need no stinking bedrock!
    What passed for a skyscraper 100 years ago would be considered an outbuilding today - far less height, mass, and increasing mass delta as owners renovated with so-called luxury features like marble. There was also less construction so less earth shaking.
    Why is there even a market for these Miami condos?

  • @ChelleLlewes
    @ChelleLlewes 18 дней назад +1

    And in other news, sound can be noisy, water is wet, and gravity can make you fall down. The *entire world* knew this was going to happen *decades ago!*
    Any other recent Usanian discoveries?

  • @mikecarusone
    @mikecarusone 21 день назад +6

    As someone who was gonna move to sunny isles and is there all the time this is very concerning as I wanted to buy a luxury condo

    • @BrunoHeggli-zp3nl
      @BrunoHeggli-zp3nl 21 день назад +5

      Why would you wanting to live in a hot hell,and paying for it?Silly!

    • @NoGutsNoGlory-s7x
      @NoGutsNoGlory-s7x 20 дней назад

      @@BrunoHeggli-zp3nlI live in Baltimore and it’s cold as hell up here 🥶
      I would love to live in Miami 😩😂

  • @MentalTaxi
    @MentalTaxi 18 дней назад +2

    That whole coastline would've originally been shifting river mouths and sand banks

  • @rosiethespider
    @rosiethespider 19 дней назад +3

    The condo market in Florida is TOAST