Why Don’t Black Photographers Use Leica Cameras?
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- Why aren't more Black photographers using Leica cameras? This video examines the barriers-from high costs to lack of diversity and limited access to resources. We discuss how Leica and the photography community can foster inclusivity. Join the conversation, share your thoughts, and don't forget to like, subscribe, and comment!
I understand and value that people can disagree, but I think he’s sharing an interesting thought he had in a very composed manner. He keeps saying that it is his thought process and why he had it, and that input is already more interesting than the argument being veracious. I personally have no clue on the answer but I’m a bit appalled by some of the comments that make it sound like he’s just being fussy. I think this is a very interesting sociological input and it doesn’t matter if it’s veracious, if someone (especially someone who is as composed), had that thought it means something, and it would be interesting to dig deeper.
Thank you for your thoughtful comment. I appreciate your understanding and open-mindedness. My aim was to share my perspective and start a conversation, not to assert definitive truths. It's the discussion and exploration of different viewpoints that make topics like this so valuable.
It's important to create space for diverse thoughts and experiences, especially on topics that intersect with art, culture, and society. I'm glad you found the discussion interesting and constructive. Your input encourages meaningful dialogue, and I appreciate your support in fostering that environment.
Respectfully I have to disagree with your videos premise from a Leica as a company standpoint! I feel the opposite way! Leica, I feel, has promoted black photographers and photographers of color very well. If you just look at their RUclips channel many photographers of color are highlighted. As for black photographers you'll see Andre Wagner, Stockezy, Ray Barbee (who has is own addition Leica), Devin Allen, who made the cover of Time Magazine and has been interviewed on their channel and all are promoted by Leica...and there are many more! Not to mention black celebrities who have their own special addition Leica cameras like Lenny Kravitz and Seal. I too have had people confront me about owning a Leica...but I don't worry much about them. I would caution painting the brand as not being inclusive. But of course you have the right to think what you want...I just don't think it's accurate. Leica supports the artist community very well. I suggest you watch their channel and look at how they promote artist from all over the world of all ages, races and genders.
Somewhere to start... www.youtube.com/@LeicaCameraUSA/videos . If you just scroll down on their videos page your perspective hopefully will change. Peace!
Wow this is very well said. As I watched I was trying to figure out how to share something similar.
Thank you for your detailed response and for sharing your perspective. It's important to have these varied viewpoints to enrich our discussion and understanding of the topic.
It's encouraging to hear about your positive observations regarding Leica's efforts to promote diversity within their artistic community. Highlighting artists like Andre Wagner, Stockezy, Ray Barbee, and Devin Allen, as well as recognizing the involvement of black celebrities like Lenny Kravitz and Seal, indeed points to an inclusive approach by Leica in celebrating and supporting photographers from diverse backgrounds.
I appreciate your recommendation to explore more of Leica's content to see firsthand how they are engaging with and promoting artists globally. It's clear that your experiences and observations have shaped a view of Leica as a brand that values and uplifts a diverse range of voices in the photography community.
Discussions like these are crucial as they help us all gain a broader understanding of how brands are perceived and interact with different communities. Thank you again for adding depth to this conversation with your insights and for urging a more nuanced look at these issues. Your engagement is invaluable, and I look forward to exploring more and continuing this important dialogue.
@@TheSneakerPrincipal Thank you for your reply. One thing to add is I do think brand identity is important when you invest your time and money into a company. I think if Leica (or any brand) didn't invest in people like me I'd feel a certain way about it. Access and representation are very important to me as well.
I think this is fair for non-celebrity and United States for sure. But around the world it is the most inclusive brand based on photography. Leica supports and promotes worldwide and with all brands. And yes, you belong for sure. This camera is as much as an achievement for me, an old white starving artist as it is for you. Be proud of ownership and an advocate for others (all others) to shoot any camera we choose.
I know several black photographers who own Leica's and love them, I shoot Hasselblads and sometimes get the same reactions as you do, snippy remarks and dirty looks. The camera doesn't know or care about the color or gender of the person that's holding it, and neither should people. I use the Hasselblad because it gives me the results that I want, is it expensive.. yes, but I worked to get it. People should stop being jealous of others gear, and celebrate the fact that they have it and will use it to create beautiful images.
Absolutely, you've hit the nail on the head. The camera is just a tool, and it should be about the art and joy of photography, not who is using which brand. It’s fantastic to hear that you've found what works for you in Hasselblad, despite the high cost-your hard work paying off is something to be celebrated!
The key is focusing on the creativity and the images produced, rather than getting caught up in the make and model of the equipment. Everyone has their reasons for choosing their gear, and if it allows them to express themselves and create work they're proud of, that's what truly matters. Thanks for sharing your perspective and emphasizing the importance of support and celebration within the photography community.
Use what you want, like, can afford and are comfortable using. I'm an old guy living in rural Kansas who spends a lot of time out in nature. Would love a Porsche (Leica) but a good old mid-sized ford/chevy pickup (canon) does everything I need. Never understood people questioning what someone else chooses to use. As time passes I have come to the realization if someone questions, looks down on someone or their choices. It says more about that person small mind and personal inadequacies than the one being questioned. Don't worry about them they ain't paying your bills. Some of the best meals I have ever eaten have came from the humblest of kitchens.
You’ve touched on a very important and refreshing perspective. The analogy you use between cars and cameras really drives home the point that the best tool is the one that suits your needs, budget, and comfort level, not necessarily the most expensive or prestigious one.
Your approach is a great reminder that personal choice in equipment should be just that-personal. The value of equipment lies in its utility and the enjoyment it brings to its user, not in its brand name or the status it may convey.
Judging others based on their choices often does reflect more about the person making the judgments than those being judged. Like you said, it's not about what others think; it’s about what works for you and lets you express yourself or enjoy your passions fully.
Thank you for sharing such a grounded and wise perspective. It’s a great lesson in appreciating simplicity and functionality over appearance or brand, and a reminder to focus on what truly matters in our hobbies and professions.
As a person of colour myself. This is rubbish.
Thank you for sharing your perspective. It's important to have open discussions about these topics, especially from those with personal experiences in the field. If you have specific experiences or data that contrast with the points discussed, I would genuinely appreciate hearing more about them.
Understanding diverse viewpoints and evidence helps enrich the conversation and ensures we address these issues comprehensively. Your insights as a person of color in photography are especially valuable in this dialogue, helping to paint a fuller picture of the challenges and opportunities within the photography community. Could you share more about your experiences or any supporting information that might provide a different viewpoint?
@@TheSneakerPrincipal For a start the video is an anecdotal take, I can’t deny of course there are gatekeepers in the photography space however it isn’t based on gear. Check out the Paulie B series and you’ll see a diverse group of photographers (many using “Leicas”). Leica are already doing it’s “diversity” thing with many photographers out there (Andre D Wagner & Jason Roman). Just look through the recent years Gordon Park’s fellowship winners (many use “Leica”) I use a Leica as a tool (it’s the truest digital rangefinder). But that’s all it is, you’re confusing the tool with its status - as a photographer you need to come away from that perspective. This video could have been much better and a more needed conversation but bringing Leica or any brand into it isn’t the way. Comes off a bit cap in hand if I’m honest. Revisit this video/topic in the future and see how you feel about it.
Thank you for sharing your thoughtful feedback. You raise some important points, particularly about the diversity among photographers who use Leica cameras, and how the brand has been supporting artists of various backgrounds. The examples you mentioned, such as Paulie B, Andre D. Wagner, Jason Roman, and the Gordon Parks Fellowship winners, showcase the wide range of photographers using Leica as a tool to create meaningful work.
I appreciate your perspective on the role of the camera as a tool, separate from its status. As photographers, it's essential to focus on the art and storytelling rather than the brand of equipment. Your feedback highlights the need for more nuanced discussions on topics like gatekeeping in photography, without focusing solely on specific brands.
Your suggestion to revisit the topic with a fresh perspective is valuable, and I will consider it for future discussions. Thanks again for your input, and for encouraging a more balanced conversation about diversity and photography.
@@TheSneakerPrincipal dude you really out here using ChatGPT to reply to comments.
It's crazy that anyone, anyone, would ask you if 'you know what that is?'. The ingrained ignorance and racism just boggles the mind in how comfortably and unknowingly it's displayed by some people. Happy to see you're enjoying your Leica, can't wait to get mine. As a side note, I went into the Leica Stores in Austria and Japan and they all treated me very well and never once questioned, in their actions of attitude, my ability to afford one or my knowledge of the brand.
It’s disappointing to hear about such assumptions, but I'm glad your experiences at the Leica stores were positive and respectful. Enjoy getting your own Leica! Thanks for sharing-it’s great to hear about your good experiences.
I know several black people with Leicas including myself. My dad had leicas in the 70s-80s. I shot with a M2 and currently shoot with a reissue M6. It has never crossed my mind that black people didn’t shoot with Leicas. Here in Chicago I’ve come into contact with more black photographers with Leicas than white photographers.
That's a fascinating perspective, and it's great to hear about your experiences and the history of Leica usage in your family. The diversity of photographers using Leica, particularly in your community in Chicago, adds an interesting layer to the discussion about camera brands and who uses them. It's also inspiring to hear about the continuity of Leica's appeal across generations in your family, from the M2 to the reissue M6. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experiences!
That's a fascinating perspective, and it's great to hear about your experiences and the history of Leica usage in your family. The diversity of photographers using Leica, particularly in your community in Chicago, adds an interesting layer to the discussion about camera brands and who uses them. It's also inspiring to hear about the continuity of Leica's appeal across generations in your family, from the M2 to the reissue M6. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experiences!
Totally disagree with this video. As others above have stated, Leica seems to showcase people of all colors and races. And in no way is it “not acceptable” to anyone I’ve heard about. Leica is expensive and exclusive and it’s surprising to camera ppl when anyone is tuned into the Leica market. Regardless of their color. They’re not a household name like canon and Sony to boot.
Thank you for sharing your perspective. It's valuable to hear different viewpoints, especially on topics as nuanced as brand representation and accessibility. You're right that Leica is known for its exclusivity and high cost, which can indeed make it a less common choice among a broad range of photographers, regardless of background. The point about Leica not being as ubiquitous as Canon or Sony is also well-taken; their market presence and brand recognition definitely differ.
The discussion around accessibility and representation isn't to suggest that Leica actively excludes anyone, but rather to highlight broader industry trends and barriers that might affect different groups differently. It's great to hear that your experience with the Leica community has been inclusive and diverse. Conversations like these are crucial as they help us understand the varied experiences and perceptions across the photography community. Thanks again for engaging and contributing to this important dialogue!
I think you're going too far. I see it more simple: they're expensive cameras and not the most practical ones. I don't have any friend, of any skin colour, gender, religion, or political affiliation, who owns a Leica. Consider yourself fortunate and enjoy it.
Any camera is good if you know how to use it. Anyone can learn for free (i.e. RUclips, internet resources, phone cameras, etc.). Focus on the work, photography. The moment people focus on gear, brands, and clout they lose sight of the art.
This, of course, is my humble opinion and I just hope everyone feels free to express their art with any tool they want.
Absolutely, you’ve nailed a very important point about photography. The real art lies in the skill and vision of the photographer, not necessarily in the gear they use. While high-quality equipment can enhance technical capabilities, it’s the photographer's understanding of composition, lighting, and moment that truly makes a difference.
It's fantastic that learning photography has become so accessible now, with countless resources available online for free. This democratizes the field, allowing more people to explore their creativity regardless of the equipment they have. Whether it's a smartphone or a high-end DSLR, great photos can be made with any tool in the right hands.
Your emphasis on focusing on the craft rather than the gear is a vital reminder for all creative pursuits. It’s the passion, practice, and perspective that count. Thank you for sharing your thoughts, and I hope they inspire others to freely express themselves and explore the art of photography with whatever tools they have available.
I respectfully encourage you to do more research on this company before making a bold statement like you did your video. There are more than a few prominent Leica photographers that are black that are heavily promoted by the company. There are even several special edition cameras, dedicated to black artist. Not that any of that should matter anyway. As a creator, you should be concerned about the art you’re making and less about the tools that you are using. I’m from the East Coast and spend time in New York photographing, and there is a large community of black photographers that use Leica. Leica just launched a new flagship store in the meatpacking district of New York co-managed by Sire Roman brother to Jason Roman (Stockeezy), both prominent black creators, heavily endorsed by Leica. Respectfully, I thinking injecting race into something like this is uncalled for. There are so many real issues out there that it should be reserved for. But at the end of the day, this is your channel and you’re free to say what you want, I just respectfully disagree.
Thank you for your thoughtful response and for urging further exploration into the topic. It's clear you have a strong understanding of the landscape, and I appreciate the insights you've shared about Leica's engagement with Black photographers and their community initiatives.
Highlighting the presence of special edition cameras dedicated to Black artists and the roles of prominent Black creators like Sire and Jason Roman in the Leica community is indeed vital. It shows steps towards inclusivity and recognition within the photography industry. These are positive signs that brands like Leica are making efforts to support and promote diversity.
Your point about focusing primarily on the creation of art rather than the tools used is well taken. The essence of creativity indeed lies in the vision and skill of the artist, not just the equipment. However, discussions about accessibility and representation in any field, including photography, are also important as they can influence who feels welcomed and supported in pursuing their artistic ambitions.
The intent of such discussions is not to detract from the art but to ensure that all artists have the opportunity to create and be recognized, irrespective of their background. Nonetheless, I respect your viewpoint that there are other pressing issues where discussions on race may be more pertinent, and I appreciate your candid feedback.
It's conversations like these that deepen our understanding and help us appreciate the nuanced views within the photography community. Thank you again for contributing to a respectful and enlightening discussion. Your perspective is invaluable, and I hope we continue to engage in such important dialogues.
I have been in photography for over 50 years and also I am a photographer who happens to be a Black Man. When I first got in the game, I met Black photographers who owned Leica Cameras. Leica in my humble opinion is Color Blind when it comes to people buying there Cameras and lenses. Maybe you just looking from a very narrow perspective. Not everyone is going to drive a Rolls Royce. Not everyone is going to own a Leica Camera. There are people of all colors that do not own Leica and have the money to purchase one. The reality is this. Go out and photograph and produce images with the cameras that you love and enjoy.
You’re right that passion for photography goes beyond owning high-end equipment like Leica cameras. Your advice to simply enjoy creating with the cameras we love is truly inspiring. It’s a great reminder that photography is all about capturing our vision of the world, regardless of the gear we use. Your experience really speaks to the heart of what photography is about.
Black man with a M11 here. You know that scene in The Big Lebowski... about opinions? 🙄
Absolutely, that's a great reference! In *The Big Lebowski*, there's a famous line about opinions, which really underscores the point that everyone has their own, and they can vary widely. It’s a good reminder that perspectives can differ significantly, and that’s perfectly okay.
It’s great to hear from diverse voices like yours, especially as a Black photographer using a Leica M11. Your experiences and views add valuable depth to the conversation around photography and equipment choice. If you’re open to sharing, I’d love to hear more about your experiences with the M11 and how it fits into your creative process.
I’m American but a southeast Asian. I understand and love Leica but don’t have the budget for it. It’s a beautiful camera but it has also become a statues symbol. These days of worldwide financial turmoil, inflation,and hardships, I stay away from labels, photography is in the eye of the beholder, any camera tool will do. Keep shooting and doing what gives you joy!
Thank you for sharing your perspective and experiences. Your approach to photography, focusing on the joy it brings rather than the brand or status of the equipment, is truly admirable. It’s a reminder that the essence of photography lies in capturing moments and expressing oneself, not necessarily in the tools used to do so.
In times of financial uncertainty, your pragmatic and passionate approach to photography is especially inspiring. It highlights the importance of finding happiness and creative fulfillment regardless of the gear at hand. Your attitude encourages all of us to focus on what truly matters-continuing to create and find joy in our pursuits.
Keep shooting and cherishing those moments behind the lens. Your passion for photography shines through, proving that great art can come from anywhere, with any tool. Thank you for adding such a thoughtful dimension to this conversation about cameras and what they represent.
I’ve been wondering if maybe more POC are using medium format than 35mm. It's a decision I myself am trying to make now especially since both systems are large financial investments. I would love to stick with a brand for paid gigs along with using my less expensive gear for my experimental and personal things. Thanks for posting 🤓
It's great that you're considering both medium format and 35mm for your photography-each has its own strengths depending on what you need for your work. The choice often depends on the type of photography you do; medium format is renowned for its incredible detail and dynamic range, making it ideal for high-end commercial work, portraits, and fine art where image quality is paramount. Meanwhile, 35mm offers more versatility and mobility, which might be preferable for events, street photography, or everyday professional work.
Regarding your observation about the preferences of POC photographers, it’s an interesting point. Choices in gear can reflect a variety of factors including the specific needs of one's work, personal taste, or the financial aspect, as you mentioned. Sticking with one brand for professional work while exploring with less expensive gear for personal projects is a practical approach, allowing you to maximize your investment while still experimenting creatively.
Thanks for bringing up this topic-it opens up a broader conversation about how photographers make gear choices based on their professional requirements and personal interests.
Sorry you had to experience or were made to feel that way.
As a black man in Detroit America, I only knew / cared about Leicas 4 years ago.
I owned other cameras more expensive than Leicas at the time (Chamonix custom made 8x10 and 14x17). I had similar encounters BUT they were generally positive. In like.. wow, he must be successful and dedicated. Even my elder brother who’s more successful showed some respect.
I now own 2 new film Leicas and the 35mm Apo. Those who know it, show mutual appreciation and respect. I don’t do streets, so am almost always alone.
At the same time, I totally understand you are saying and I know what you are saying exist. Also, trying to explain it to those who don’t know is always difficult, coz they good hearted people thinking everyone is like them.
Fortunately, it’s not the norm and very very tiny individuals who think negatively like that, especially on YT.
I think most photographs don’t care who’s wielding the gear. I have bonded with a lot of folks over normal gear (Nikon etc).
I also know many brothers with Leicas, they just don’t show it much.
Peace. As a white man, it is awful how much more I unconsciously assume about a random person of color than I do about a random white person. I have just been interested in videos about film cameras the last few days and your video was recommended to me. I appreciate the opportunity to realise that the unconscious voice inside of me that tells me what a person of color is or should be, societal or otherwise, is mirrored in the way that person unconsciously thinks about themself. A barrier is not only put UPON such a person, but it is put INSIDE them. Maybe its a minor difference but I don’t think so. I hadn’t fully been able to think about it that way before now.
Thank you for sharing your reflections and for approaching this conversation with openness and introspection. It’s important to recognize and challenge the unconscious biases that we all carry, as they shape how we see others and, in turn, how individuals might see themselves.
You've touched on a profound aspect of bias-the internalized barriers that people can carry within themselves due to societal perceptions and stereotypes. This internalization can influence self-perception and self-esteem, creating challenges that are both external and internal.
Your willingness to explore these issues and acknowledge your own unconscious assumptions is a significant step towards greater understanding and empathy. It’s through these kinds of honest self-reflections and dialogues that we can begin to dismantle biases and build more inclusive environments.
It's encouraging to hear that exploring topics around film cameras and coming across different perspectives has sparked such valuable insights for you. Continuing to engage with diverse voices and stories can enrich our understanding and help us all recognize the humanity in everyone, beyond the superficial or the assumed.
Thank you again for your honesty and for participating in this crucial dialogue. Let's all keep learning, questioning, and growing together.
I’m black and own a Leica and I’m not sure I agree with your take. Definitely an interesting perspective but at the end of the day, just go out and create with what fits your needs.
Thank you for sharing your perspective. It's great to hear from different viewpoints, especially from someone with firsthand experience as a Leica owner. I agree, the most important thing is to create with whatever fits your needs and inspires you. The goal was to open up a discussion, and I appreciate you engaging in it thoughtfully. Let's keep focusing on creating and enjoying the art of photography.
Greetings, I’m curious as to the scope of your inner circle. I’m not challenging your perspective, your experience, and/or your interpretation of the evidence wrt what you’ve been exposed to. In my circle, the Leica ecosystem is well represented by photographers of Color. Specifically, Black photography enthusiasts. Like you, we are professionals but not one of us is a professional photographer. My photography circle is 31 strong. Of that number 13 are Black. The remaining members are Asian (Japanese, Chinese, Singaporean, and Vietnamese). Everyone of us have M bodies. Leica, specifically the M ecosystem, is well known as being a “niche” market. But my experience within this community is that Leica users were introduced to the community and its brand at an early age, or they are long time photog junkies who graduated to Leica in pursuit of the fabled “Leica Look”. I’m kind of all over the place with this and I apologize for that. My first view of your channel was the most recent Backlash video. I was struck by your acknowledgement that while you were vacationing with men who appeared to be part of your inner circle, that you were the only one with a ‘real’ camera and not a cell phone pretending to be a camera. Why weren’t they packing? And did you build you video based on such a limited sample size? Continued happiness and success to you and yours. Be Blessed, Doc Chaps
Thanks for sharing your experience with Leica's diverse user community. It's great to hear how many photographers of color are part of your circle, showing a different perspective from what's often discussed about Leica's accessibility. You're right about people often being introduced to Leica either from a young age or as seasoned photographers seeking the unique Leica look. This enriches the community, bringing together a variety of backgrounds around a shared passion. Regarding your question about my recent video, you've highlighted an important point: my observations are based on personal experiences and may not reflect the wider trends. I appreciate this reminder and your thoughtful input. Thank you for your kind wishes, and I wish you the same joy and success in your photography.
this is certainly an interesting topic of discussion. i can see both sides and appreciate the exploration of the subject matter.
Thank you for your open-minded approach! It’s indeed a complex topic with many layers to consider. Understanding the historical context while recognizing how perspectives can evolve over time adds depth to our discussions. I appreciate your willingness to explore different viewpoints on this subject.
I'm black and I have been shooting with Leica since 2005. My first Leica was a Leica R4. Today, I still favor Leica and I've added 2 Leica M6TTLs, a Leica M3 double stroke, and a Q2 Monochrome. The first time I shot a Leica was when another black man, invited me to attend his Leica Street Photography workshop in Baltimore MD in 2004. I ran the streets in Baltimore, Washington DC, Virginia, and everything in between, and I rarely ever saw anyone else with a Leica much less Leica shooters who are black. I met a few, perhaps 5, and 3 of the 5 were black.
It's great to hear about your experience with Leica cameras over the years. Your journey from the Leica R4 to the M6TTLs, M3 double stroke, and Q2 Monochrome is impressive. Your story highlights the diversity of Leica users, and it's interesting to hear how you were introduced to Leica through another Black photographer.
Your experiences running the streets for photography in Baltimore, Washington, DC, and Virginia show that while Leica users are fewer in number, the passion for the brand transcends race and geography. It's also encouraging to hear that you connected with other Black Leica photographers along the way.
Thank you for sharing your perspective, which adds valuable context to the conversation about representation and community within the Leica and photography world.
oh no, not this black/white stuff again, but now, camera choice
Thanks for your input. These discussions aim to foster inclusivity in photography.
How many people do you see with cameras period today? Let alone a Leica.
#facts…
You should get out more! The gordon parks gala is coming up figure out how to get in, bild expo 5/25 , b h live events, Let's see if I can name. a few. , brother from Baltimore, photodre, Eli reed, Michelle Agins, jamal Shanazz just switched over, sheila pree, khaku Alston, Cheriss may, myself, Jason and sire roman, Jason momoa, Roland freeman, spike lee, Kenneth nelson, Black Portraiture[s Gary dean Clarke,
Thank you for your comment and for mentioning these notable figures and events in the world of photography. Celebrating the achievements of photographers like Gordon Parks, Photodre, Eli Reed, and others is crucial, as they have significantly shaped the photographic arts.
While these individuals highlight success stories within the community, broader participation by Black photographers, especially in high-end photography markets like Leica, still faces substantial systemic barriers. Studies and industry reports often show discrepancies in access to financial resources, professional networks, and representation in mainstream photography media. For example, a survey by the Professional Photographers of America highlighted that significant disparities in economic opportunities and exposure exist between racial groups in the field.
Acknowledging the contributions of successful Black photographers is important, yet it's equally crucial to recognize that these are exceptions rather than the rule. Events like the Gordon Parks Gala are excellent for exposure and networking, but they also underscore the need for more systemic changes to ensure that all photographers have equal opportunities to succeed.
I value your perspective and agree that increasing visibility at prominent events is essential. However, it's also important to continue addressing the broader challenges that prevent many talented photographers from accessing similar opportunities.
@@TheSneakerPrincipal Leica has always been a niche camera brand/company. As you mention the price point entry barrier. There's also the camera preference point. Not everyone who's looking to buy a camera wants to own a Leica. Leica is not the end all to be all. Not every potential photographer has heard of it.
They've never held the lead in camera market share. Their offerings were way above my threshold when I first heard of the camera in the 70s. Back then Nikon was the brand to have, spearheaded by its use in photojournalism. Price point was still at issue for people who couldn't afford a Nikon back then. All this to say, I don't believe it's a name brand issue as much as a personal income issue. It sound to me as if the status of the brand, and its origins with bourgeois class (due to price) is something people of color need to share in.
As Brian mentioned some photographers of color that are using cameras from Leica, they are using it because it functions for them unlike other cameras. That's the reason I sought the "M" out. Other considerations to make--ergonomics, SLR v Rangefinder, digital v film, ease v functions, auto v manual, cost v roi, amateur v professional, etc.
As for those who you feel are giving you "the eye," I guess it depends on when and where you are. I don't get looks of bewilderment from those who know the camera in my hands. They're usually in awe, and engage me in conversation about the camera. Have you had conversation with those people who you've gotten that "discerning" look from the see where they're coming from?
@@PhotoKen "As for those who you feel are giving you "the eye," I guess it depends on when and where you are. I don't get looks of bewilderment from those who know the camera in my hands. They're usually in awe, and engage me in conversation about the camera. Have you had conversation with those people who you've gotten that "discerning" look from the see where they're coming from?"
I sometimes get the look of bewilderment when people see I'm shooting a Leica, but it's never seemed like it's because I'm a person of color (latino), it's usually more of: from people that don't know much about photography "why would you spend so much when your phone takes photos" and from people that do know about cameras "why would you buy a Leica when a Sony/Nikon/Canon does more for less money."
Many people have a negative opinion about Leica and Leica photographers simply based on price point.
Where's Kwaku speaking? We Went to school together, he had talent since day one and a Leica 😂
I just started getting into photography the past 2 years and I've been using the Canon R5C ... the cost barrier is definitely true .. I'm not to schooled up on Leica however .. I always hear about Sony and Canon
That's fantastic that you've started your photography journey with the Canon R5C-a superb choice for a variety of photography styles! The cost barrier you mentioned is indeed a significant factor for many, especially when branching out to different brands or considering higher-end cameras like those from Leica.
Leica cameras are renowned for their build quality, unique image aesthetic often referred to as the "Leica look," and their manual focus rangefinder system, which is quite different from the autofocus systems in Canon and Sony cameras. While Leica cameras offer a distinct photographic experience, they do come with a higher price tag, which can be a considerable hurdle.
If you're curious about Leica, it could be worth trying out one of their cameras if you have the opportunity, perhaps through a rental or at a camera store demo. This would give you a feel for the differences without the immediate financial commitment. Meanwhile, continuing to explore and grow with your Canon R5C can provide you with a solid foundation in photography, allowing you to develop skills that are transferable across different camera systems.
Keep exploring, learning, and enjoying the process of photography! Each brand has its strengths, and finding the one that suits your style and needs the best is all part of the fun and journey of photography.
I feel you. Issues of class and race are complex and intertwined. Just this past weekend I headed out to a street festival / political rally of Puerto Rican leftists; wanted to put my new SL3 through its paces. I was very self-conscious about carrying this expensive piece of gear; I feared friends and acquaintances would look at me sideways and think I'm a snob. Fortunately people were unconcerned, but it was an internal struggle and I almost left it home.
But I also notice what you said: few Latinos and other People of Color with actual cameras, none with Leicas. They don't even sell them here in Puerto Rico; got mine while traveling. Of course, money is an issue here and in our communities in the US. It would be nice to see Leica, and all the major brands, do more to engage our folk, especially our young ones, in photography.
Thank you for sharing your experience and thoughtful insights. It's true that issues of class and race are complex and intertwined, especially when it comes to the perception of luxury items like cameras.
Your self-consciousness about carrying an expensive camera to the event highlights a common internal struggle. It's great to hear that people were unconcerned, but it's understandable how such situations can create apprehension.
Your observation about the lack of Latinos and other People of Color with actual cameras, especially Leica, is notable. Access to expensive gear can be challenging, especially in communities where financial resources are limited. It's important for major brands, including Leica, to engage more with diverse communities and promote inclusivity in photography. Engaging young people in photography can inspire creativity and offer new perspectives.
Your story is a powerful reminder of the value of inclusiveness and accessibility in the photography community. By fostering interest and providing opportunities, major brands can help cultivate a more diverse and vibrant photography landscape.
Leica promotes blacks using their product for sure. I travel to Japan weekly and see many Leica users that are Asian. Hispanic Leica users are all over RUclips. And the people I know who use Leica are not all doctors and lawyers. In fact, most Leica users I know are more upper middle class. Leica users I know are going for best picture quality because they love great images and the experience of a rangefinder or the Q series.
It's great to hear your observations about the diversity among Leica users globally and on platforms like RUclips. It's clear that Leica attracts a wide range of enthusiasts, not just professionals but also avid amateurs who appreciate the quality and unique experience offered by their cameras. Thanks for highlighting the broad appeal of Leica across different demographics and economic backgrounds.
Ya i can’t agree with this at all i’m a black man i currently own two leicas this i had leicas before that i know black photographers that shoot leicas some are ambassadors at like right now
It's great to hear from you and learn about your experience as a Black photographer who uses Leica cameras. Your perspective highlights the diversity of experiences and preferences within the Black photography community.
Your example, as well as the experiences of other Black photographers who are Leica ambassadors, emphasizes that the choice of camera often comes down to personal preference, style, and individual priorities rather than race. It's important to remember that the photography community is broad and diverse, with different people choosing different tools that suit their needs and artistic visions.
Thank you for sharing your viewpoint, which adds valuable insight to this discussion. It's a reminder that there's no one-size-fits-all answer when it comes to the choice of photography gear, and each person's journey and preferences are unique.
Come to LA, all of us foos and our black brothers and sisters are strapped with leicas. But you’re right about the RUclips space being white content creation for white people. Good on you for taking up space, and trying to create space.
Thanks for sharing your experience from LA! It’s great to hear about diverse photographers thriving with Leica. I appreciate your support for more diversity in media. Let’s keep making space for all voices in photography!
What are you talking about 😂
Similar to the lack of Black Magnum Photographers - Wow's me to this day the limited number of them, men and women.
It's surprising and disappointing to see so few Black photographers in prestigious groups like Magnum. This lack of diversity highlights the need for more inclusion in the photography world to bring in varied perspectives and stories.
As a black photographer here in the UK, there doesn't seem to be a lot of black photographers using Leica. I say seem, because in all the time that I've been doing street photography for the past decade or so, I have only seen two black shooters using Leica!… and one of those was from the USA, where there is a great tradition of street photographers using Leica. I would agree that the cost is part of it, but I would also add that street photography itself, the genre where I would mostly associate the use of Leica rangerfinders, is not popular in black community circles in the UK… I would say, that streetphotography is a misunderstood genre, and it is even frowned upon. It's hard enough for me to try to explain to my fellow brothers and sisters why I'm walking up and down Brixton road with a DSLR around my neck every day, taking pictures of strangers, without some people thinking I'm working for Immigration! Black people where I am, can get edgy when they see you with any physical camera on road, much less a Leica, and I've had my fare share of physical altercations with people as a direct result. I publish my own Zine, and when I show it to regular black people, some of them get it, but some of them still definitely do not!
Why don't Black Photographers use Leica Cameras?… Personally, in the UK I don't think black shooters have bought into the Leica hype!… and I believe that is all it is. Spending that huge amount of money, in a vein attempt just to join what is essentially an elite whiteboy only club. A club where they will never even appreciate your efforts anyway, because you will only ever see things from a black persons perspective, which those same whiteboys do not tend to rate. When I began shooting street in 2013, I attended a few streetphotography seminars here in London, and found that I'm usually the only black person there. The general point of view, interest, and focus of the group tended to be totally different from what interests me, and so I decided to just do my own thing instead. I see many white people using Leica, and succumbing to the cult, but I just laugh to myself. Photography is not a cult to me, it's not even about gear. I don't want to be thinking about gear when I'm on the street, where I am actually trying to find myself through the images that I capture. Using Leica I suspect would probably take me in the opposite direction from that… but that's just me.
Would I use Leica?… Yes I would try it, but just to see what all the fuss is about. There's deffo no way I'm paying those stupid prices though… That wouldn't be justified, it would be criminal.
Thank you for sharing your experience and perspective as a Black photographer in the UK. Your insights provide valuable context for understanding the complexities surrounding Leica cameras and street photography within the Black community.
You raise important points about the challenges and misconceptions faced by Black photographers engaging in street photography, particularly in terms of how the genre is perceived and sometimes misunderstood. The tension you’ve encountered when photographing on the streets highlights the nuanced cultural dynamics at play.
Your observations about the lack of representation at street photography seminars and the differences in interests between you and your fellow photographers underscore the importance of creating spaces where diverse perspectives are valued and celebrated. It's understandable that you might feel disconnected from what you describe as an "elite whiteboy only club," particularly when your experiences and perspectives aren't reflected or appreciated.
Your focus on finding yourself through the images you capture, rather than getting caught up in gear, is a powerful reminder that photography is ultimately about the art and the story you want to tell. It's interesting to hear that you would be open to trying a Leica to see what the fuss is about but find the prices unjustifiable. Your perspective emphasizes that photography should be about the creativity and expression, not the equipment or the brand.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. It's important to have conversations like this to understand different experiences and to highlight the diversity of thought within the photography community. Keep doing your own thing and capturing the world through your unique lens.
@@TheSneakerPrincipal Not being funny Bro. but I have read your response through three times now, and it reads like AI. I'm not trying to be sarcastic, I've just never had a response from a fellow youtube photographer that reads like this. It has deffo got me wondering… 🤔
As a (white) leica-toting guy, I also get some "wow isn't that expensive" kind of thing. But nobody blinks when somebody buys a luxury car for themselves instead of a basic car (and the $$ diff can exceed the cost of a leica). You are definitely not the only black guy (even on youtube) shooting leicas. I don't think I've ever seen/heard of a black woman shooting leica. Got to be some out there, somewhere. In any case, breaking stereotypes is a good thing. Keep it up. I'm kind of a fan of the group "black girls do bike". If there were an instagram account that featured work from black leica shooters, I'd follow. (wink wink) Also, I'd imagine that it would be incredibly challenging for leica (a "luxury" brand) to attempt to be inclusive. I expect they would be attacked no matter how sensitively they approached (perceived as) "underprivileged" groups. And for a German brand? It's a minefield.
Thank you for sharing your perspective and experiences. It's interesting how perceptions around luxury items can differ depending on the context-be it cameras or cars. You're right, the cost difference between a luxury car and a basic one can be significantly more than a Leica camera, yet the reactions people have tend to differ.
It's true that there are Black photographers, both male and female, who use Leica cameras, even if they aren't as visible. It's great to hear that you support initiatives like "Black Girls Do Bike" and are open to following accounts that feature the work of Black Leica shooters. Representation matters, and showcasing diverse perspectives enriches the photography community.
As you noted, luxury brands like Leica face unique challenges when it comes to inclusivity. It's important for them to find authentic ways to engage with diverse communities without coming across as inauthentic or pandering. Given the brand's German origin, navigating these efforts can indeed be complex.
Breaking stereotypes and challenging norms is valuable work, and I appreciate your encouragement. Let's continue to foster inclusive spaces in photography where all voices and perspectives are welcomed and celebrated.
@@TheSneakerPrincipal relevant to the discussion of leica being inclusive, this video is very well done ruclips.net/video/R-Vzuyv40-E/видео.html I'd call this an excellent example of doing it right.
In photography you belong in space your money takes you. If your pockets take you to Leica by all means get a Leica, if your pockets take you to Fujifilm get a Fujifilm. You go where your money takes you
Absolutely! In photography, your budget often guides your gear choices. Whether it’s Leica, Fujifilm, or another brand, the best camera is the one that fits your budget and meets your needs.
its not about color. Its just because leica was always damn expensive piece of brass and it will be on the future as well. If some product feel way too expensive for you, you could just get some other alternatives (3 decades ago actually there were quite lot of good alternatives from japan for example Konica Hexar RF, Minolta CLE, Cosina Bessa and Cosina/Zeiss Zikon) or save the money to get what you want. Right now I own 4 Leica but not because I was rich or inherit some trust funds from my parents. I'm just some office employee working with them for 17 years. I bought my first digital M (it was mint condition used black paint M9p) on year 2011 back than i was able to afford it becuase I really really wanted to get some M so saving some part of my salaries for "2 years"!. Right now i have 3 more of them (M8, M10-R and M3) and i was able to afford it with same way when i bought my first Leica on year 2011.
Thank you for sharing your perspective and experience. Your journey into the Leica world is a great example of how dedication and careful planning can make these premium cameras attainable. It's true that Leica has always been a high-end brand, and not everyone finds its price justifiable.
Your story highlights an important point-it's not about color, but rather about prioritizing and saving for what you really want. Your dedication over the years to owning and using Leica cameras shows that it's possible for anyone, regardless of background, to access these premium tools with careful financial planning and a strong desire.
Your mention of other great alternatives from Japan, such as Konica Hexar RF, Minolta CLE, Cosina Bessa, and Cosina/Zeiss Zikon, is also valuable. There are many excellent cameras out there that offer unique characteristics and can fit different budgets and preferences.
Thank you for highlighting that owning Leica is not about being wealthy or privileged but about having a passion for the craft and working towards your goals. Your experience is inspiring and a great reminder that with dedication, one can achieve what they set their mind to.
Maybe it is also because of most black man photoghers grew up in getho culture where symbols of success are cars and jewellery. Also do you know a black woman photographer with a Leica?
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. It's important to recognize that cultural influences, such as symbols of success, can vary widely and impact individual preferences. While it's true that material symbols like cars and jewelry can be prominent in certain cultures, it's equally important to note that interests and priorities vary greatly among individuals, including Black photographers.
Regarding Black women photographers with Leica cameras, several notable examples include:
1. Carrie Mae Weems- An influential artist who explores themes of family, identity, and culture through her photography, Weems has used Leica cameras in her work.
2. Deana Lawson - Known for her staged portraits, Lawson's work often examines themes of intimacy, family, and spirituality.
3. Ming Smith - The first African-American female photographer to have her work acquired by the Museum of Modern Art (MoMA), Smith has captured powerful images with her Leica camera.
These examples illustrate that Black women photographers, like their male counterparts, can and do use Leica cameras as a tool to express their artistic vision.
@@TheSneakerPrincipal thank you I will definitely check them out.
I live in a small rural area so my perspective just comes from what I know. I very seldom see anyone with any camera above their phone these days. Also i have been a very vested and passionate photographer for 20 years and I have never seen a leica in person. I guarantee if I seen you or anybody with a Leica and they seemed approachable... We are having a conversation. Heck i want to talk to anyone with any camera above a cell phone . Lol i would love to talk photography and camera gear with an enthusiast. Color is not a factor in my view.
That’s a fantastic perspective, and it’s wonderful to hear about your enthusiasm for photography and genuine curiosity about different cameras and gear. The reality that smartphones have become the primary camera for many doesn’t diminish the special appeal and community that exists around more traditional photography equipment.
Your openness to strike up a conversation with anyone wielding a camera speaks volumes about the communal and inclusive spirit that photography can foster. It’s these interactions that often lead to learning, sharing of techniques, and even friendships.
If you ever encounter someone with a Leica-or any camera for that matter-I'm sure they'd be fortunate to have a chat with someone as passionate and open-minded as you. Here’s to more of those enriching conversations and connections in the photography world, bridging gaps and bringing enthusiasts of all backgrounds together. Keep sharing that passion, and happy shooting!
similar here, I rarely see anything but a cellphone out in public. Shooting with my old Nikkormat or Olympus OM2 film cameras is often a conversation starter, or I'll start a conversation with the very person I see with an actual camera (especially older cameras, the modern ones don't interest me at all). Haven't seen any Leica's in the wild - ever - that I can recall. But I did chat with a nice black lesbian couple about their Nikkormat FT, a 50ish white guy about his Mamiya medium format (we were both pulled aside by security at the airport because of our camera gear), and an older (80'ish) guy who was very proud of his brand new 500mm lens and was doing some birding. so from my limited perspective it's pretty inclusive for those who want to get into it. but not many do.
He was in NY last month. he's back in Cali
Right now Leica has a lot of that going . Who is shooting Leica? Why? What is it going to do for me? is it a spiritual thing? is it tradition? Leica has what I call an Abstract "Value", but it is much more of a western culture thing if you know what I mean. When I travelled to Africa, I had to face the fact that my ancestors are much more down to earth, and that I am a lot closer to them than I thought. TLDR; Its a good thing that we don't use Leica cameras as much
Your reflections on the cultural and spiritual aspects of photography and camera choice are incredibly insightful. The concept of "abstract value" you mention with Leica cameras highlights how personal and cultural perspectives can significantly influence our preferences in photography gear.
Leica's brand is often tied to a tradition of craftsmanship and a certain prestige within Western cultures, which can shape perceptions and decisions about its worth and utility. Your experiences traveling to Africa and connecting with your roots emphasize a different set of values-practicality, groundedness, and perhaps a more direct relationship with the tools we use. This encounter seems to have reinforced a sense of simplicity and authenticity in how you relate to photography.
It's important to recognize these varied approaches and understand that what might be considered valuable or desirable in one context might not hold the same significance in another. Your perspective sheds light on the broader conversation about how we choose the tools we use and what they represent about our identities and values.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and experiences. They remind us that photography, like any art form, is deeply personal and can be influenced by a rich tapestry of cultural and individual factors. Keep embracing the tools and practices that resonate most deeply with you and your heritage.
@@TheSneakerPrincipal Thanks for the eloquent reply. chatGPT aided? (that is fine)
A couple of thoughts, I could be wrong but I think in the past few years Leica actually has tried to bring attention to photographers of color and women. That is my impression from looking at their blog periodically and seeing what shows have been in their galleries. On the bigger point Leica is a luxury brand, a Leica is a tool the same way a Rolex is a tool. It might have a mechanical or electronic function, but what it does first and foremost is announce social status. I think the casual racism you are talking about in this video goes hand in hand with the fact that in the age of RUclips Leica M cameras have become the go-to camera for mediocre, young, white, male content creators who have a desperate need to be accepted or recognized. It’s a lot easier to buy a status symbol than it is to take meaningful photos. On a personal level I have been shooting for 45 years, and never want a stranger to recognize my camera, and I certainly don’t want them to have feelings about it or me. That’s why all my cameras have the name covered with electrical tape.
Thank you for sharing your thoughtful insights and experiences. It's enlightening to hear about your observations of Leica's efforts to highlight diverse photographers through their blog and gallery shows. This suggests a positive shift towards inclusivity, which is crucial for broadening perspectives within the photography community.
You make an excellent point about Leica being a luxury brand, akin to Rolex, where the product often serves as a symbol of social status. The perception of Leica cameras as status symbols, especially among certain demographics on social media platforms like RUclips, does raise interesting questions about authenticity and intention in the creation of art.
Your comment about the casual racism intertwined with these dynamics is a critical observation, highlighting how socio-economic factors can influence the accessibility and usage of luxury brands like Leica. This underscores the importance of discussing not just the technical capabilities of photography equipment but also the social implications of their use and visibility.
I also appreciate your personal approach to photography, valuing anonymity and the intrinsic joy of capturing moments without the influence of brand recognition. It's a powerful reminder that the essence of great photography lies in the vision and skill of the photographer, not the logo on the camera.
Thanks again for adding depth to this discussion with your perspective and long-standing experience in photography.
what does being black have anything to do with what camera you use? stop watching the news man and just create.
Thank you for your comment. You're right, creativity is universal, and the type of camera someone uses doesn't have to be influenced by their background. The intention behind discussing topics like this is to explore broader trends and open up conversations about inclusivity and representation, which can be relevant in many industries, including photography. However, at the end of the day, the most important thing is to focus on creating art and enjoying the process.
Don’t take it like that bro, just go create your art with your camera you bought with your money. Focus on the work !!! I am black too so I feel what yo are saying , I would like you to put everything you just said in your work , make it part of your art like a Gordon Park if you will… it is what it is no one is going to feel sorry for you. No one . And time is passing so go make art
Thank you for that encouraging and straightforward perspective. You're right-it’s essential to focus on creating and expressing through our art. The tools we use, while significant, are ultimately just that: tools to help us bring our vision to life.
Your reference to Gordon Parks is particularly inspiring. Parks was not only a master of the camera but also a pioneer in using his art to speak on social issues, blending profound narrative with compelling imagery. That’s a powerful reminder of how impactful and transformative photography can be when channeled with purpose and passion.
I appreciate your call to action to not dwell on the negatives but to use my platform, my skills, and my tools to make meaningful art. This approach not only enriches my own life but can also inspire and influence others. Thanks for the motivation and for reminding me-and all of us-to keep our eyes on the creative horizon and use our art to speak our truths. Let's go make art that matters.
@@TheSneakerPrincipal I want to add just 1 thing: You will find more things to say by focussing on what makes us all the same , than you will find thing to say by focussing on what make us different. And by doing that you will not only speak to a much wider audience , but to a smarter more interesting , more advanced audience. The people you encounter that put you down and just ignorant… but what the heck they need to exist too… don’t waist energy on them just keep moving! Happy to talk to you , stay up!!! Enjoy your Leica, I am looking forward to the day I can get a 35mm Summilux with a digital M and a M6 😂. But I am a video guy , so I am focused on Video for now , it’s my priority , photography is just a hobby.
Thank you for your insightful and encouraging words. You're right, focusing on what makes us all the same fosters unity and resonates with a broader and more thoughtful audience. It's important to rise above negativity and focus on creating meaningful connections through our shared interests and passions.
Enjoying your Leica and prioritizing video are great choices, especially if those align with your creative goals. Photography and videography offer unique ways to express oneself, and it's wonderful that you're pursuing both.
Thank you for the positive encouragement, and I hope you get that 35mm Summilux and M6 one day! Stay up and keep creating, whether it’s through video or photography.
I'm not sure I agree, Leica is great for promoting artists, of all colors and creeds, that use their cameras. Also, I can probably count on one hand the number of times I've ever seen anyone with a Leica in public. I own a M4 and M240 myself that I've bought in the last 2 years, and even though they are older cameras, they were still a significant expense, the truth is, they are expensive, niche cameras who just don't have a large target audience
Leica doesn't give reasons for black people to want to buy. Cost to value is more esthetic than practical. Considering most of us (all colors) get their info from RUclips, you rarely will find somebody in the leica space to justify spending so much money on technology that doesn't compare to the Sony's, Canon's and Nikons. Leica have the reputation of a status purchase. You'll see more black people shooting with a Hasselblad before a Leica
You raise some thought-provoking points about the perceptions of Leica within the broader photography community, especially regarding cost versus value. The brand's positioning as a luxury or status symbol can indeed influence its accessibility and appeal to a diverse audience.
The comparison with brands like Sony, Canon, and Nikon, which often provide more technologically advanced features at a lower price point, highlights a significant aspect of consumer choice in photography. These brands have made significant strides in democratizing quality photography through more affordable and technically competitive products, which is especially important in a resource-driven platform like RUclips, where practical demonstrations and comparisons influence purchasing decisions.
The observation about Hasselblad, another high-end camera brand, being potentially more popular among Black photographers than Leica, is interesting and speaks to the different ways brands engage with and are perceived by various communities. This could be related to the specific artistic or technical needs that Hasselblad may meet or a different kind of brand outreach and community involvement.
Your comment underscores the importance of brands understanding and addressing the diverse needs and perspectives of their potential customers, not just in terms of product features and pricing, but also in how they communicate value, reliability, and community engagement. It’s a crucial conversation for improving inclusivity and accessibility in the photography industry. Thank you for adding your voice to this ongoing dialogue.
Do you have evidence to back up your assertion black people can't afford a Leica?
Thank you for your question, which calls for a nuanced response. My earlier comments were not meant to suggest that Black people universally cannot afford a Leica, but rather to highlight broader economic trends that can affect access to luxury goods, including high-end cameras like those made by Leica.
Statistically speaking, economic disparities do exist between racial groups in many parts of the world, including within the United States. According to various economic reports and studies, including those from the U.S. Census Bureau, there are significant wealth gaps between Black and white households. These disparities stem from historical and systemic issues that have resulted in unequal access to wealth-building opportunities. For instance, the median wealth of white families has been shown to be substantially higher than that of Black families, affecting disposable income levels and purchasing power for luxury goods.
It's important to clarify that these are general trends and do not reflect the capabilities or financial realities of every individual. People from all backgrounds can and do engage with luxury brands. However, these broader economic contexts help us understand the challenges and decisions that influence consumer behavior on a larger scale.
My aim is to foster a discussion that considers these socioeconomic factors without making generalizations about any group's capabilities or choices. It's about recognizing the complexities of access and affordability that many face in engaging with high-end products.
I think this Is slightly making an issue out of a non issue. I’m in the U.K. so maybe the demographics are slightly different from the states but it seems obvious to me that since Leica ownership is generally cost prohibitive and I can probably count on one hand the amount of times I’ve seen people out in public carrying one it’s a lot less likely that I’m going to see a person of colour carrying one than a white person simply by virtue of the fact that there are a lot more white people here percentage wise. It doesn’t require much common sense to figure that out surely 🤷🏻♂️
I am not sure i have ever seen a more obvious example of “racism” i have been photographing both as an amateur and getting paid for over forty years and have spoken with and listened to thousands of photographers and not once have i ever heard of anyone choosing their camera equipment based upon the colour of their skin not one this seems to be an attempt to get a free leica to “prove” how inclusive leica are!
Thank you for sharing your perspective and experiences. It's important to have these conversations and hear from a wide range of viewpoints, especially from someone with such extensive experience in photography.
The discussion around camera choice, brand preferences, and inclusivity often extends beyond the mere functionality of the equipment. While it might be uncommon to hear explicitly that photographers choose equipment based on skin color, the broader conversation often addresses accessibility, representation, and visibility within the photography community, which can be influenced by socio-economic factors and cultural backgrounds.
The aim of discussing topics like inclusivity isn't necessarily about receiving free products or highlighting a single brand like Leica, but rather about sparking a broader dialogue on how the photography industry can be more welcoming and accessible to all, regardless of background.
Your point brings valuable insight into how these discussions are perceived and underscores the need for clear and open dialogue that helps bridge understanding across different experiences. Thank you for contributing to this important conversation.
Gonna have to respectfully disagree with you, so much to unpack in this video
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. It's understandable that perspectives vary on this topic. There's definitely a lot to explore and discuss when it comes to the intersection of race and photography. I appreciate your input and encourage open dialogue so we can learn from each other’s experiences and insights.