So the recording still counts when your character would be overhealed. But does song of days past and ocean hued clam also record the healing from the kurage when i dont stand within the kurages range with my wanderer as a hypercarry for example? Thanks for the answer in advance.
Yeah, the problem with SODP is that the dmg is taken by the jellyfish (let's just call it Kurage-kun from now on) taking part of the buff received. IMO, if you use Kokomi as a support, rather than DPS, it would be better; but again, Kurage-chan needs to get away from the action after 6 seconds. Heck, Furina with her way to change E skill (and also hair?. And also pants?!) works better, since she just needs to heal for 6 secs and then the rest of the gang takes turns. Similarly, OHC needs Kurage-sama to stay close, to maximize the healing gathered. But there lies its problem, if the enemy moves, gets away or escapes.... Game-o. That's why I use Tenacity and Heart. It sucks, but it works for short and long-range, and Kurage-tan is only required to apply hydro, and heal in specific situations. Or to get frozen lol.
I remember doing the napkin math for this, SODP only scales well with really high CV on your carry and DMG% but kokomi never has enough of both for it the procs to match clam, even in single target. In aoe its not even close.
I have a feeling they are very cautious when "balancing" some of these sets. Then again they seem to be fine with releasing Neuvillette/Arlecchino so who knows what they are thinking. I am actually surprised they haven't released an "upgrade" to clam set (like some older sets that are still functional, but less useful).
@@KokomiClan SODP is more of a support set than a heal dps set, and hoyo probably regrets making 4vv almost universal for how strong it is. They don't want to powercreep noblesse with a support set that works for any carry. Right now SODP is the second support set if you have a noblesse user, or noblesse but for HP scalers. I have no idea what 5* balance team is up to recently. Arle at least has a no healing downside, but neuv is just crazy for his dps/range/self heal, and chiori is literally just albedo powercreep. Could be cynical and just say "wow gacha powercreep, pull *character* to counter new boss" but thats boring. Maybe they do this to have lower difficulty for new players while raising the dps checks/difficulty for older/more invested players? Every few abysses sets a new record for minimum dps or smth.
this set is absolute dog water. it's not good on anyone. the buff needed to be in like at least 10 hits, or at least twice as strong, to be even worth considering.
![Mary J. Blige - Breathing (feat. Fabolous) [Official Video]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/snMHObq-6E0/mqdefault.jpg)
So the recording still counts when your character would be overhealed. But does song of days past and ocean hued clam also record the healing from the kurage when i dont stand within the kurages range with my wanderer as a hypercarry for example? Thanks for the answer in advance.
Yeah, the problem with SODP is that the dmg is taken by the jellyfish (let's just call it Kurage-kun from now on) taking part of the buff received. IMO, if you use Kokomi as a support, rather than DPS, it would be better; but again, Kurage-chan needs to get away from the action after 6 seconds. Heck, Furina with her way to change E skill (and also hair?. And also pants?!) works better, since she just needs to heal for 6 secs and then the rest of the gang takes turns.
Similarly, OHC needs Kurage-sama to stay close, to maximize the healing gathered. But there lies its problem, if the enemy moves, gets away or escapes.... Game-o.
That's why I use Tenacity and Heart. It sucks, but it works for short and long-range, and Kurage-tan is only required to apply hydro, and heal in specific situations. Or to get frozen lol.
I remember doing the napkin math for this, SODP only scales well with really high CV on your carry and DMG% but kokomi never has enough of both for it the procs to match clam, even in single target. In aoe its not even close.
I have a feeling they are very cautious when "balancing" some of these sets. Then again they seem to be fine with releasing Neuvillette/Arlecchino so who knows what they are thinking. I am actually surprised they haven't released an "upgrade" to clam set (like some older sets that are still functional, but less useful).
@@KokomiClan SODP is more of a support set than a heal dps set, and hoyo probably regrets making 4vv almost universal for how strong it is. They don't want to powercreep noblesse with a support set that works for any carry. Right now SODP is the second support set if you have a noblesse user, or noblesse but for HP scalers.
I have no idea what 5* balance team is up to recently. Arle at least has a no healing downside, but neuv is just crazy for his dps/range/self heal, and chiori is literally just albedo powercreep.
Could be cynical and just say "wow gacha powercreep, pull *character* to counter new boss" but thats boring.
Maybe they do this to have lower difficulty for new players while raising the dps checks/difficulty for older/more invested players? Every few abysses sets a new record for minimum dps or smth.
i didnt understand anything, but in conclusion how much was the damage increase compared to Noblesse Oblige? Ofc without Bennett. Is it was 10%?
Phew, my top 0.1% "dps" Kokomi build is still safe.
this set is absolute dog water. it's not good on anyone. the buff needed to be in like at least 10 hits, or at least twice as strong, to be even worth considering.