Upgrade Any Cabinet with DIY Pull Out Drawers | I Like To Make Stuff
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I really don't understand the internet pocket hole hate in general. There are perfectly good uses for all types of joinery in different situations, needs, abilities, capabilities, etc.
I have been looking for options for our pantry which is basically a small coat closet size with a regular household door. This video gave me some ideas to potentially mix some of the vertical storage from the previous video along with these types of drawers.
Thanks Bob and team!
You're welcome!
Exactly, I'm so disappointed in how rabid people are about it, he had to apologize midvideo for using a technique in CABINET MAKING. 🙄
A lot of it has to do with the idea of "Purity" of the craft, which is puerile considering there are many examples of antique furniture that used pocket holes, yes the implementation was different but it was older tech back then, some of the issue stems from the fact that pocket holes are used in IKEA type furniture, the major issue with that is, the really cheap furniture is all too often made from some type of particle board, basically sawdust, wood chips and glue, which in turn is so weak that even dovetails wouldn't help
So are pockets the BEST most traditional choice for this? No. He COULD have rabbited the bottom panel to sit within the drawer in a groove. BUT pockets are perfectly suitable for this application. The people that complain are the people with a laundry list of projects that will never get done because they feel they need to use THE BEST or the most traditional form of joinery in every piece they make. Or they are the same crowd that says using a CNC is not "real" woodworking. It's the same with the dovetails. Sure he could hand cut every single one but it would be a huge task and take exponentially longer.
What's wrong with just screwing a bottom panel up into the box frame? Pre drill, glue, and screw every few inches?
I relate so hard to those sounds you make climbing in and out of awkward spaces. It's absolutely necessary.
those are Dad sounds LOL
Just for the trolls, you should build an entire project with pocket holes and flathead screws. It would be so fun reading the comments.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 yessss I agree!
Pocket holes aren’t bad
Flathead screws?! You're a monster.
Thats why I watch Fishers haha
What's the issue with pocket hole assembly?
Bob, you do not need to defend your pocket holes. You've been a pocket man since before pockets were cool. OG Pocket.
The fact that Bob himself hasn’t done dove tails is so wild to me. He is such a great wood worker the fact he is still learning is so inspiring and cool!
I'd say this was pretty well timed. I'm in the early stages of renovating my grandmother's kitchen and would love to put some of these in her base cabinets. Thanks for sharing!
Sounds great! I hope it's helpful!
We've added about 30-40 drawers to our cabinets in the last few months and it's a game changer. Your storage becomes twice as useful. Far less unused space
If you can't adjust the height, I'd just grind the riving knife. I did that with mine and it works great, no more having to disassemble it and it's a quick fix.
Came here to say this - just hit it with a file/belt-sander/etc. and it'll be safer and easier.
Jimmy Troll Voice: "you're not a real woodworker if you cut dovetails with a jig" ❤️
Always excited to see which new projects you take on. Thanks for sharing them with us! 😊
Glad you like them!
I like how he addresses that yes it is a simple method but often the simple method works best for some situations. From my experience working on with metal materials people over complicate processes when the simple options are the best.
Thank you for explaining having to remove the riving knife. 😅 I'm still new to woodworking and I appreciate those details.
Anthony’s photo bomb at the end is awesome! And also that bottle of For…by’s :)
Bob fixed my closet for 5 dollars, thank you, @I Like To Make Stuff !!!!
I really like this drawer construction. It seems easy to measure and easy to get square. I’d do it with box joints, only because I have that jig already and I like the look.
There's something special about your "Hi, I'm Bob" that makes me say "Hi Bob" out loud every single time :))
Good project 👍
Hello there!
@@Iliketomakestuff 😄😄👋👋
Nice dovetails! I'm not going to try that, but this was perfect for what I want to do underneath my work table. Thanks so much. What I live about you is the clarity of your instructions. You'd be amazed at how many carpenters on RUclips assume you know what they're doing with no explanation. Really appreciate that! 🙏🏼
I haven't even watched this video yet but I'm excited because I've been wanting to do this exact thing in my kitchen. I usually watch just too see what cool stuff you do, but this time I'll actually be using the info!
Beautiful, Bob! Really well done! 😃
Organization is really important, but even more important is that the trays look amazing in there! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
I've never been crazy about dovetails. I like this half method and jig since it you save time.
I've done this upgrade in my kitchen and my parents' kitchen and bathroom, and it's been a lifechanger!
that's great!
Brilliant, thank you. This looks like the perfect solution to the dreaded plastic storage container cupboard.
This one of the best videos I have seen, and I actually understood what needed to be done from it. I look forward to trying this during the summer when my workshop is not bitter cold.
Great job, Bob! (as always!). Been following for a while and love what you’re doing. This is awesome, because I just started doing the same thing for our master bathroom remodel! I am doing full dovetails and using Porter Cable jig (works exactly like Rockler jig) and using BB plywood. You chose wisely to go with half blind, as it does go much faster since doing pins & tails simultaneously, as well as only needing to tune setup one time. (btw - One way to prevent blowout with plywood is to put sacrificial board in front of the vertical board in jig. It’s a pain, but it works! Keep the projects rolling! Can’t wait to see how Ghia is coming along too!
Thank you for this. I have (more or less) the same issue with deep cabinets where drawers like these will be extremely more useful. This helps me come up with a way to do same in my setup.
Love, love, love this project. You do a great job. Thanks for sharing and teaching us something new
I’ve been doing custom cabinets for 24 years. I felt your pain when you had half your body in the cabinet and yelling. Good work on the rollouts.
I just did this exact project to one of my cabinets about a week ago... I can absolutely relate, haha! I can't imagine doing it every day.
@@lumberjackengineering2649 it doesn’t happen everyday but when it happens you question your life choices. 😂
In these cases, I like to build panels on the bench that I can just insert in one piece. An inch well spent.
I think coming to appreciate (and incorporate) pocket hole joinery is part of a lot of people's woodworking journey if they've learned the craft from RUclips, especially if they gravitate towards the more in-depth, educational channels. I know it was part of mine. You come to learn that they really are the best option for certain projects and situations. James at Stumpy Nubs recently posted an excellent video on the subject. Aside from that, there are always going to be people who need something to feel "superior" about.
I just did a bunch of these that went in the back of an L shaped space so things didn't get lost way in the back. I have a very helpful tip for anyone who finds their trays aren't quite wide enough. Use a couple of washers between your slide and the cleat when you screw them in and you will be just fine. Also, crawling inside of a cabinet to install these was a real pain.
Now I have so many ideas going through my head! I will now be adding this to my to do list! Great job!
These drawers look amazing, I love ideas that help utilize the space! Thanks for the video!
Pretty confident the riving knife assembly has an adjustment for that very reason, I'm almost certain I read that in my sawstop manual. May want to research that, great video thx for sharing
I always enjoy your content. Entertaining, educational, and very positive. Thanks Bob.
Pro tip # 1 from cutting tons of dovetails. Since most of us have more than one router, chuck up a dovetail bit in one router and a straight cutting bit in the other. First pass, use the straight cutting bit to remove the bunk of the material, then use your dovetail bit on the second pass to establish the dovetail and pins. This process is easier on your tools and bits and leaves a cleaner dovetail with less tear out.
Pro tip # 2 from installing lots of cabinets. Only order lower cabinets with full width drawers (i.e. no doors). Way more convenient and efficient than standard box cabinets with doors.
Great job, very clean looking. The pull out drawers made a big difference in our pantry.
Perfect timing Bob! We are having a new kitchen soon and wanted to have drawers like that as the low cabinets are hard to get at.
You can do it!
Worked a long day, fell asleep watching your video, had to go back through to find out the place where I dropped out...Fantastic idea.
Great job Bob. I've been thinking of doing this to our pantry. And pocket holes are a good tool to have.
Definitely!
Great work I am thinking the same for my home kitchen cabinet. Got a whole new perspective was thinking ordinary drawers this gives newness.
Years ago I bought a similar dovetail jig and never figured out how to use it. It's been collecting dust ever since. While it is nowhere near as nice as this one from Rockler, I may need to dig it out and see if my accumulated wisdom since then will help me figure it out now. Thanks for sharing!
Very cool. And that's almost exactly what I'm working on today. Nice timing and great tips.
This is such a good upgrade for cabinets. I did it to mine and absolutely will not go back to lower cabinets without drawers
Well done Bob! I totally agree with you about both the Dovetails & the Pocket screws! And I am not screwing around with you when I say that! 😂😂🤣🤣👍👍😉😉
I love that ILTMS is willing to put pocket holes alongside dovetails. Whatever works, works!
You should have 3D printed a spacing jig and CNC’d your logo at the front of every drawer, only to spray paint over all of it. Just to piss off every troll at once. @JimmyDiresta would totally do something like that
Usable space is always worth it!
Excellent!
You did a great job on those slides. Now you can make full use of the cabinets.
Thanks! I need to get started on organizing my kitchen!
Great video, and I loved you trick with the wood spacing! Howeve, this just shows me where my limits are, I could never do that myself 🙈 Kudos to you!
Another great video. I just found your channel last weekend, and I'm really enjoying your work. It's a cool blend of woodworking, home improvement, and technology combined with innovative design and humor sprinkled in. Considering the size your channel and how successful you are, it shocks me that it was not in my youtube feed sooner???
I would just like to say I noticed the different color grading and I love whatever settings you changed to the raw footage! Reaaaally small detail, but I really liked it…
Love the usage of the space under the bottom draw...
Great result! Nice use of space
Yeah I'd grind down the riving knife. I actually need to do the same (thanks for the reminder!)
I got gifted some nice planks last week. I was trying to figure out what to do with them. This is the perfect project! Thanks man
Bob, finally, a video that's bringing to life a long sought after dream of mine.
I want to do this in my bathroom towel closet cabinet next to my sink, maximize my wife's make up storage by using the full depth of the cabinet
However, the cabinet is setup with adjustable pin shelving.
I want to design a system for my drawer slides that locks into the pin holes, so no screwing into the cabinet... In case we want to remove it later.
Also, planning on making a Fishers shop dovetail table saw jog to help me make this.
Thanks for the visuals.
Also, my 6yr old says you're his favorite to watch at bedtime.
This is a problem I'm currently trying to figure out with the adjustable shelves and the drawer slides. What did you wind up doing?
Well done, Bob! The drawers look great and make an awkward space so much more useable.
Always love watching the videos. Especially when you try something new. Keep up the great work!
Thanks 👍
Great job ! Really enjoy these projects !
I was just trying to wrap my head around doing something like this! Much appreciated.
Cut a couple of holes in the fronts of each drawer to allow one to grab there rather than where stuff might be resting inside the tray. Just a little extra fancy work on the front face :)
Really cool video. This is exactly what I’m hoping to do in our kitchen. Thanks
Great Video! Hopefully the Dovetail-Jig Critics will collide with the Anti-Pocket-Holeeers and we can have positive comments going forward
That is a pretty cool jig for the dovetails.
Great job. I love those pull out drawers in the pantry. I really need to make my own.
You should!
Been thinking about this for a while, your video has convinced me that it's possible and that it is within my ability to do. Thanks!!
Fantastic!
Another example of your imagination, skill and craft at work. Great stuff! Keep it up :0)
Nice dolly zoom for the milling montage!
I feel like a session on how to fit drawer runners would be helpful. Jeez, they’re always out by a tiny amount!
That is a cool idea, thanks for sharing
Solid work man!
Just a thought, you could of upgraded the hinges to the doors that actually make the doors move out of the way like Ikea doors so you would of only had to clear the hinges. Other than that the drawers and the color of the wood are beautiful.
Thanks, these dovetail jigs seemed super intimidating. Now I have a much better idea on how to use it and what I can do in my kitchen!!!
I've done that pocket hole trick for bottoms before, one thing to note for anyone who wants to do similar and hasn't before, If the Squareness of the finished product matters to your next step, put it up as tight as possible to one side and tight to one of the perpendicular sides, screw in the one side, check for square, then screw in the one other side perpendicular to it, then check it again, then finally drive home the other two sides. This allows you to loosen those last two sides a tad to be able to ensure the finished product is square.
Great project!
This kitchen is beautiful Bob!
Thank you!
Beautiful
I have never seen creator merch that I'd actually spend my money on, but that M.A.K.E shirt just might be the first
great idea bob, its amazing how many people out there don't make use of the available space in their home, love the vids.
Thanks so much!
Awesome Sir just Awesome 👍🏻👍🏻
Totally agree on the pocket hole front. So long as you've worked out your depth and screw size correctly and it's in an area nobody's gonna see then why give yourself extra work. Especially in the case of drawers where the total drawer amounts could easily be into double digits.
"Blast Gate Closed" Sounds like it is time to automate those gates to open when you power the tool and close when you turn it off!
Pocket holes for the WIN!
Great project man!
Sometimes it's the little upgrades offense home that make the biggest impact.
Just moved to a new flat where the kitchen has exactly 3 drawers but tons of big cabinets.
Think this would do the trick!
I'm getting real New Yankee Workshop vibes from this episode.
I love how you tried something new
I wish I had seen this before I invested in the basket shelving in my pantry cabinet. The cost difference would almost pay for the jig. Plus, I would have a jig afterwards. Nice looking drawers.
Bob , very nice !!!!
This is something I want to do in some of my Workshop. It's also something new I have not done me for make drawers and what drawer slides.
I need those in 2 of my kitchen cabinets. Thanks for the how to do it 👍👍
I hope it's helpful!
@@Iliketomakestuff I think it will. The bigger cabinet needs middle divider first but perhaps the smaller one could have bigger drawers. I need to play this to hubby since he'll be the one making them. So what other style corner hooking's you recommend ? since the one you did might be bit over our skill levels :))
Thanks to your challenge video with Josh on making guitars, I was inspired to build a new body for my Davison G235 electric guitar. I sadly messed up the electronics though so it does not connect to an amplifier but I can still play it acoustic. Thank you for your awesome videos and keep up the great work
That's awesome! I hope you can find a fix for your electronics.
Dovetails! Woo-hoo! 😄 If you get it, you get it😉
I'm not totally against pocket holes, as they do have their place. But for drawers, I drill 1/4" holes across the joints for the sides and bottoms and glue dowels in, then cut them off. It takes a bit longer but is faster than anything but pocket holes, and it's probably a little stronger and looks better. Anyway, those are nice! I'll have to keep your setup in mind when I build the cabinets in my shop.
I had that same riving knife problem on my Sawstop PCS with a new "10 inch" blade I bought off Amazon. It was some European brand, maybe Freud. I got out a ruler and discovered that the blade measured exactly 250mm. Ten inches is actually *254* mm. Those 4mm were just enough to make the blade shorter than the riving knife. I sent it back and wrote an irate review saying they should update the description to say 250mm rather than 10". I bet you're having the same issue.
oh this is super cool, I never made any by hand cos I am not even attempting them, but now it's actually achievable even for me..might need a router first though haha, thank you, it looks fab
Super useful!!!
Glad you think so!
Love it!!
Glad you like it!
grind the slot in the riving knife a tiny bit so it can seat lower. worked for me!
Good call!
Should definitely make sure your drawers are square before the glue is dry. If they're not, it's a much bigger pain to cut a piece to fit the bottom. And it's an easy fix if you check it before they're glued completely.
great dolly zoom!!!
Anthony said thanks for noticing!
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