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CANON R5C: Are you FULLY USING one of its COOLEST CINEMA FEATURES? S&F MODE EXPLAINED
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- Опубликовано: 15 авг 2024
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CHAPTERS
0:00 Introduction
0:14 Canon Cinema S&F Mode
2:28 S&F Setup and Tips
6:22 AF Tracking Warning
6:54 S&F AF Tips and Tricks
9:34 Conclusion
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Really useful info, thank you. I used S&F mode today and I realised I missed focus when tracking a subject with my gimbal. Helpful for me to understand better the next time I use S&F mode.
I noticed that once you pushed past 60 frames per second say up to 72, 96 or 120 you lose autofocus? Why is this?
It sucks bc the canon 1dx ii had 120fps with tracking. This is a newer, and supposed to be higher end yet it lacks tracking at S&F mode, common Canon.
I am delighted to have come across your channel.
thx buddy, useful to know, now that i have an R5C sitting here in front of me. Subbing for you.
Thank ya!
Appreciate all your vids and tips on the Canon R5C! Thanks brother!
Excellent video and love your approach - very informative. Maiden voyage with R5C coming soon when we take it to Wyoming. Plan to use the s&f a lot and thanks for the tips. Also hoping Canon updates the R5C firmware to provide tracking in s&f, like they did on C300iii. Will also be testing that in Wyoming. Thanks again.
hello , can i turn off c-log in r5c an record with camera colors like r5 with not c-log?
Thank you for a great info again. I use preview mode to save battery all the time. It is OG advice man!! Old school! BR
Any idea why I can't see it on my Ninja V? As soon as I switch the frame rate past 24 fps it shuts off HDMI connection.
Same problem!!!! Anyone fix this? The only way I can record 60p to the Ninja V is if I change the frequency system settings to 60p ... I can't press one button and switch into slow and fast mode.
so if i use 120fps for slow mode and output it to 60fps does that mean that i can slow it even more in post?
Great to swap between 30fps and 120 but here’s the problem not discussed. Why does the R5 have auto exposure on the 120fps but not the R5C? Why does R5 have remote capability but R5C does not? It’s a giant disappointment to be that much more expensive than R5 but missing key things.
It can be quite baffling. I actually made a whole video about the bluetooth and wifi restrictions. ruclips.net/video/Hmx1D-nlj8s/видео.html. Thanks for the comment and have a great day!
thanks for your content! I have learned a lot how to get the most out of my r5c!
Wow, incredibly helpful! Thank you very much for your work! :)
Very good tutorial... Thank you soooo much.
Love your channel man. Your videos are so clear and well thought out. Super useful, I’ve learned so much from you. Thank you - SUBBED👌👌👌
So happy to have you along for the ride! have a great day
Thanks for another great explanation, Bryan! 👍🏻I will try to use S&F for my timelapses, it's similar as interval based shooting, but I can have an audio recorded at the same time! 👍🏻
Super helpful! Thank you.
Your insight into the R5C is great!
A few things...
- I have a dedicated button to switch between this S&F mode (where I set my fps to 100) and normal mode (where I switch between 25 & 50 fps). I sometimes loose my 100 fps setting in S&F, it seems to reset to default, if in 25fps it switches to 25, if in 50 it switches to 50. Do you think there's a way to lock in 100fps/25fps?
- also, when in S&F, does 25fps/25fps the same as just shooting normal mode 25fps?
Thanks for the great content in your videos. I have learned a lot!
I’m having issues setting up the S$F/Audio(wav) to record sound and record video slowed down. I tried to set it up where my CFExpress card is the video but I cant set the audio to my secondary card for some reason. What am I doing wrong? Also, is there a way to set it to a button on the R5C so I can switch back and forth easily?
The point you make at roughly 4:00 is a more important point than you acknowledge. If you record at (e.g.) 48 frames per second and it plays back in 48 frames per second (as you (mis)stated at the beginning), it is going to look like normal motion. But (I’m guessing because I haven’t tried it) that isn’t what happens. The camera records in 48 frames per second but the play back is in the fps set in the menu - 24 fps in your example. NOW… it will look like slow motion.
As an R5 user i was really surprised when I hired the R5c that it was missing AF tracking - i spent ages trying to find out where I was going wrong with the modes before resigning to the fact that it just wasn’t possible. The lack of this feature really put me off upgrading. Great video!
Hey Jamie, the R5C, actually does have tracking in 24, 30 and 60fps. It's a little tricky to find, but I did an earlier video on it. (ruclips.net/video/7S75hjt9sWA/видео.html) But I still think the R5 still has a more intuitive and better AF than the R5C. Thanks for the comment and have a great day!
you can't even film above 60fps on an R5 while recording audio. ......or before it explodes from over-heating!
any advice for the shakiness? with no ibis?
canon r5 record BRAW to blackmagic video assist ??
Out of curiosity, is there a reason you are recording externally on the Ninja?
Thanks for this!
What about sensor readout? Will 60fps/4K be identical in "normal" vs "S&F" or will "S&F" 60fps/4K use line skipping?
Brilliant video as usual. So p!$$ed at Canon for removing the tracing on 120fps. We film fast moving objects at that rate so its imperative. Canon are always knee capping us.
Thank you very much for this video. I need help. The continuos AF menu in my camera is gray out. Do you have any idea why?
its 2023 has canon given a update to tracking ?? your channel is very helpful !!!!!.......
Sorry no updates to tracking in S&F Mode, but I wish there was. Have a great day!
thanks soo much for the reply,. bro !! bless you !! @@DeafDirector
At the 02:15 mark you mention that in S&F mode the camera will also record the audio as a separate file. Will this work if you set the framerate to 120fps?
Yes. It should work as long as you use the S&F menu option to record audio as a separate file and then dial in 120fps. Have a great day!
Hi All! Great video, thanks, but how can I quickly switch between the 8K 25p to 4k 120p recording option without changing manually in menue? As far I remember the R5 had the C1-C3 function for it. How to make simple for the R5c ?
Good question, id love to get an answer too
Thanks for the tips! I will make use of those.
The other benefit to S&Q mode vs 60fps base is that the image ( in theory) should be higher quality because the data is being spread over 24 fps instead of 60 fps.
Interesting! I am not one who is the coolest
Thanks you video!
1 YEAR LATER - cannon did not give that firmware update yet!
Were you able to send out the S&F frame rates to your atomos recorder and have the recorder detect 48fps?
That’s the issue I ran in to when I took the r5c for a test drive. At this point I’m assuming that S&F can only be used internally on the camera itself as it’s not supported via HDMI out.
That is correct.This is for internal recording only. The HDMI will output this as whatever your base recoding rate is. Thanks for the comment and have a great day!
Great video! The only thing that confuses me is when I bring my footage into Premiere. I shot a clip at 120/60. I know I'm missing something but when I bring it into premiere, how do I access that 120fps, because the clip shows 59.976. Confused and could use some help!
it sounds to me its just doing the modifying for you in camera. normally you'd modify your clips to the same fps as your sequence.. since you;ve chosen 60fps but have S&F at 120, means your footage is probably at 50% speed and you're going to need to create a 60fps sequence.. that's how i understand it. i've just got my R5C so not really played with it yet. and given this was a yr ago, i'm sure you figured it out.. but for anyone who's new to understanding frame rates / sequences this should come in handy.
What is the reason you shoot in 96 frames per second? - thanks , your videos really help alot!
Hey Stewart, for me it's a completely subjective thing, but I love how 96fps plays out motion wise versus 120fps. It gives me a nice sense of grand motion, without slowing things down too much. It is a frame rate that also works great for music videos. Thanks for the comment and have a great day!
So I'm pretty new to video and just picked up the R5C. I've shot two weddings so far with an R but wanted something a little better. I just don't really understand the difference between all the CP files (bt 709 Wide Dr./canon log 3/bt 709 Standard..etc) I feel like my footage is good but I'm having difficulty getting the colors to really pop. Im trying to be true to color but everything seems a little flat. (I'm not shooting C Log 3..im too scared..lol) Ive been trying to find videos for help in understanding these settings but I can't find a single one. If anyone can help point me in a direction where I can learn that would be very helpful!
It can be a bit daunting when you are first making the transition, but rest assured with a little patience and practice it will make sense. To get the most out of the sensor, I would recommend shooting in CLog 3 with Cinema Gamut. The good news is that Canon makes a free set of official LUTs that you can easily apply in your editor of choice and it will instantly pop your images up. I will include a link for the Canon LUTs at the end of this.
Make sure you go to the 3DLut folder, choose the 65grid-3dlut folder, and then apply "CinemaGamut_CanonLog3-to-BT709_WideDR_65_FF_Ver.2.0.cube" Once applied on the CLog3 footage you can then do the final tweaks to get what you want.
Once you do this you should be blown away by the quality of your R5C vs the R. Of course, I recommend practicing this before you are on an actual wedding, so you are comfortable with the process. You can find the LUTs here: canoncanada.custhelp.com/app/answers/answer_view/a_id/1032577/~/canon-lookup-table-version-201911
Have a great day!
@@DeafDirector Thank You!
Does the digital IS work in the R5C in RAW?
Nope
@@reuven_olszewski that’s too bad, it actually works decently in the C70
@@TJ-po9ol Maybe they changed it with an update, but last time I checked digital IS only works with XF AVC & mp4
@@reuven_olszewski Sounds right, I only had a C70 before it got RAW
why do people always have the correct framerates on these videos and I just 25 or 50
Sounds like your camera is in PAL mode.On most cameras you can easily fix this by setting your camera to NTSC Mode. If you are on the Canon R5C set your System Frequency to 59.94Hz. That will get you 23.98, 24 and 60 fps. Have a a great day!
@@DeafDirector Thank you. We went into the snow park to film snb but the view stayed over exposed even iso was all down, what are we missing? (first time for us with a cinema camera)
@@GirliforniaMagazine Sound like you need a Variable ND filter for your lens. This is something that is needed on almost every camera in bright outdoor situations. Here is a review I did on a set if you want to learn more. ruclips.net/video/o6mY-hoZwWM/видео.html
@@DeafDirector thank you
@@DeafDirector So we put our camera at 59hz and the af worked follower etc all worked, The rec button didnt work, we could not film in that ntsc mode. When we put the camera on pal mode, we could film but the af follow, face etc mode did not work. what are we doing wrong?
this is the worst camera i have ever seen in 120fps, you will see shaky light in entire videolike 1950 televisions, we cant shoot slow motion with this f..g camera,