To all the sports logos - Chief Wahoo is my favorite logo and stickers. I think, that's not a discrimination gesture. That's a tribute to the Native American Indian (Chief Wahoo) tribe.. 🙏🎉👍❤️
Yeah well they don’t tell the full history this was the symbol outside of stores for people to turn in native body parts for money. They called these parts “redskins.” Also it being red is racist in itself bc it’s what colonizers called natives bc of their skin which clearly isn’t really red. It’s crazy not one news story tells the full history of chief wahoo. Smh
Actually many Natives wore red war paint so over time they were referred to as redskins. It wasn’t a racist term. As for the Chief Wahoo logo, whatever anyone who used the logo outside of its intended purpose did with the logo is irrelevant. I could use any sports logo for something hateful/racist and possibly even start a trend. That wouldn’t make the logo bad or racist just because I used it for something other than its original intended purpose.
@@kevinroach7363 Native American Louis Sockalexis played for the team in the 1890s. The nickname was a tribute to Sockalexis, a Penobscot Native American from Maine
Then they would say that patriotic teams like the Yankees and Patriots are going to discriminate against the people who are not citizens and want them gone too.
I support BLM Movement, but I think that names like "Cleveland Indians" and "Atlanta Braves", on the contrary, reaffirm the importance of Native American People and its culture for most Americans. Obviously, the reason of those names is to honor Native Peoples, to pay tribute to them.
@@lifeinlife24That’s not true. The N word was always meant to be a derogatory term specifically for African Americans. People have always referred to Native Americans as Indians and it was never intended to be demeaning. You can’t erase history. Do you realize many Natives even refer to themselves as Indians? It’s because the term is not racist or offensive.
I know I’m very late but I would say that it’s a fine line, for example having a tomahawk as a logo is honoring native people doing a tomahawk chop and making fun of native songs is offensive
Then get rid of all names and of everything. Now if the Indian symbol showed him scalping someone then that would be something. Then the names of all should be names of the hometown. They will be just be called Cleveland baseball team no decals at all. They are not racist just colorful
What people dont realize is that this keeps their culture alive. Watched multiple interviews with Native Americans where they dont find it offensive but gracious for the honor for their culture. They did it with football - Redskins They did it with baseball - Indians Next it'll be hockey - Blackhawks This country is so divided
They don’t even sell the Indians hats at Lids anymore😭😭. But luckily I got a 1995 World Series Manny Ramirez jersey. But why change it?? People are so over sensitive. And i bet native Americans didn’t even mind.
Tooooo muuuuuuch. This is embarrassing bcuz we were and are the first Americans. Yup this is racism. It's a friggn logo.....for all the sports teams that had them. If it aint the flag it's the logos. Come on, really!?
Jumpy Tooth and? what they did was wrong, even if other colonization would've done the same but worst, that doesn't justify your ancestors excuse for doing such a bad deed.
Jumpy Tooth seriously, improved? Yeah sure, lets bring in sickness and diseases over there. Also the way Natives lived were just fine. No global wars, no racism, just peace and stability, even respecting the animals & Mother Earth which doesn't seem to do well in today's time. 🤷♂️what part of improving do you even mean? And the Indians logo has nothing to do with our issue here.
Good! The Washington Redskins, Chicago Blackhawks, Atlanta Braves, and Florida State Seminoles need to change their name and logo as well. It’s derogatory and racist. Their culture is not for your amusement.
I don't know about the others but the FSU Seminoles have permission from the Seminole Nation. I don't know all the details but the school has some sort of deal that covers a lot of things, even having someone of Seminole decent play the role of Chief Osceola. I get there point but there can be a middle ground. Just not sure the Washington team wants to sit down and make a deal with every Native American Nation just for the rights to keep the name.
People are over sensitive
HardikG121
Got em
The prototype they are im Native American and the logo dosent bother me I like it
@@warrioroforthodoxy1729 as Full blooded Native what I found Racist is that Indians are not Natives....wrong logo for a wrong name...lmao
I agree, all these white people complaining about my caucasians shirt are snowflakes ❄️.
@@denepride2910 The logo wasn't meant to be real
To all the sports logos - Chief Wahoo is my favorite logo and stickers. I think, that's not a discrimination gesture. That's a tribute to the Native American Indian (Chief Wahoo) tribe.. 🙏🎉👍❤️
Yeah well they don’t tell the full history this was the symbol outside of stores for people to turn in native body parts for money. They called these parts “redskins.” Also it being red is racist in itself bc it’s what colonizers called natives bc of their skin which clearly isn’t really red. It’s crazy not one news story tells the full history of chief wahoo. Smh
Actually many Natives wore red war paint so over time they were referred to as redskins. It wasn’t a racist term. As for the Chief Wahoo logo, whatever anyone who used the logo outside of its intended purpose did with the logo is irrelevant. I could use any sports logo for something hateful/racist and possibly even start a trend. That wouldn’t make the logo bad or racist just because I used it for something other than its original intended purpose.
exactly !
After this woke era, you better bring Chief Wahoo back.
YESS WHAT IM THINKING
Fans still wear Chief wahoo to games
u come back
I ain’t care wat ya gotta say imma always wear my wahoo hat!!! the chief will never be forgotten!!
same
The franchise made the decision for the wrong reason. It was about money.
Keep wearing the Chief
That ain’t Native American
Fans will still wear it 🤷♂️
They killed one of the all time best logos ever for the political correctness movement…
No it's offensive. Why not call them the Cleveland Jews.
@@kevinroach7363people like you are ruining this country
@@kevinroach7363 Native American Louis Sockalexis played for the team in the 1890s. The nickname was a tribute to Sockalexis, a Penobscot Native American from Maine
@@kevinroach7363 A tribute, you people just like to boil the pot.
@@kevinroach7363 I wonder when they'll get rid of the Boston Celtics Irishman logo or the Minnesota Vikings Scandinavian logo?
Not cool keep the logo like it is let chief wahoo live once again sensitive people need to go to bed let chief wahoo live once again
Cleveland Indians Washington Redskins . Is Not Racist .
I am offended by the Boston Celtics logo.
Then they would say that patriotic teams like the Yankees and Patriots are going to discriminate against the people who are not citizens and want them gone too.
Disingenuous argument is disingenuous
@@BarbarianKing2964 Who determines if an argument is disingenuous?
Some people consider the Minnesota Vikings Scandinavian logon offensive too.
I support BLM Movement, but I think that names like "Cleveland Indians" and "Atlanta Braves", on the contrary, reaffirm the importance of Native American People and its culture for most Americans. Obviously, the reason of those names is to honor Native Peoples, to pay tribute to them.
Native Americans aren’t Indians. It’s like calling a black the N word. It’s not surprising how ignorant the majority of the population is.
@@lifeinlife24That’s not true. The N word was always meant to be a derogatory term specifically for African Americans. People have always referred to Native Americans as Indians and it was never intended to be demeaning. You can’t erase history. Do you realize many Natives even refer to themselves as Indians? It’s because the term is not racist or offensive.
I know I’m very late but I would say that it’s a fine line, for example having a tomahawk as a logo is honoring native people doing a tomahawk chop and making fun of native songs is offensive
Ontario Canadian Indian right here ...not offended.........
Just change the name to the Cleveland Natives problem solved
Then get rid of all names and of everything. Now if the Indian symbol showed him scalping someone then that would be something. Then the names of all should be names of the hometown. They will be just be called Cleveland baseball team no decals at all. They are not racist just colorful
I like wearing Cleveland Indians gear, especially around leftists. Good thing the Atlanta Braves and KANSAS CITY CHIEFS have not changed their name.
What people dont realize is that this keeps their culture alive. Watched multiple interviews with Native Americans where they dont find it offensive but gracious for the honor for their culture.
They did it with football - Redskins
They did it with baseball - Indians
Next it'll be hockey - Blackhawks
This country is so divided
Soon enough my Padres will probably change their name over religious controversy lol
#BRINGBACKTHEINDANS #BRINGBACKTHELOGO
They don’t even sell the Indians hats at Lids anymore😭😭. But luckily I got a 1995 World Series Manny Ramirez jersey. But why change it?? People are so over sensitive. And i bet native Americans didn’t even mind.
Cleveland Indians forever. I will not bow to the woke mob. Ever.
Why do I fell I’m in the matrix and someone dropped water all over the machine?
I still wear my Chief Wahoo stuff. Best sports logo ever imo. Definitely my favorite
y'all right
Maybe they could try and redesign the character
Taking a symbol of is petty and feebly minded sticks and stones will brake your bones but names will never hurt never hurt you
wearing this logo tomorrow for a halloween costume, wish me luck lol
How’d it go?
Guess he died.
Real american Indians Are On the Rise 🎉
Chief Wahoo, Kate Smith, who's next??
chief wahoo needs a return now that baseball is bigger then ever
Tooooo muuuuuuch. This is embarrassing bcuz we were and are the first Americans. Yup this is racism. It's a friggn logo.....for all the sports teams that had them. If it aint the flag it's the logos. Come on, really!?
First Nations aren’t the first Americans, sure they inhabited the land before the Europeans but they got thrown out
Jimmy Chaves yeah and?
Jumpy Tooth and? what they did was wrong, even if other colonization would've done the same but worst, that doesn't justify your ancestors excuse for doing such a bad deed.
N8ve Jay well overall they greatly improved life there and the thing is, the team mascot is more of an honour than anything
Jumpy Tooth seriously, improved? Yeah sure, lets bring in sickness and diseases over there. Also the way Natives lived were just fine. No global wars, no racism, just peace and stability, even respecting the animals & Mother Earth which doesn't seem to do well in today's time. 🤷♂️what part of improving do you even mean? And the Indians logo has nothing to do with our issue here.
Cleveland doesn't have a mlb team
I would like to call our team the Cleveland white people
maxhamlin38 That would be inappropriate. Which is why I believe the name Indians should be changed.
change this nowwwwww!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
Good! The Washington Redskins, Chicago Blackhawks, Atlanta Braves, and Florida State Seminoles need to change their name and logo as well. It’s derogatory and racist. Their culture is not for your amusement.
I don't know about the others but the FSU Seminoles have permission from the Seminole Nation. I don't know all the details but the school has some sort of deal that covers a lot of things, even having someone of Seminole decent play the role of Chief Osceola. I get there point but there can be a middle ground. Just not sure the Washington team wants to sit down and make a deal with every Native American Nation just for the rights to keep the name.
Get lost
C W Thsts kinda mean but gloriously funny. Well put.
Amere Garsun exactly
Go back to your little safe space where you belong.
Get him out!
do we get a free championship trophy and rings for getting rid of it
Nope. Ya gotta win game 7 first.
Jesus christ. Smh
Crystal people