There is another YT channel. The person was in the process of building a retaining wall. The neighbour called enforcement which resulted in an inspector arriving within a few hours. The YT talked with the inspector for several minutes, complaining about nosy neighbours, shoddy construction, etc. The person never tried to shoo the inspector away from the construction site. In fact they were standing next to the retaining wall as it was getting built by the workers as they were talking. The inspector had a good look at the type of retaining wall being emplaced, the methods of it being emplaced, and what material was being used. If a site _isn't_ ready for an inspection it means the site is in violation of at least _one_ building code and the site supervisor is aware they are.
Was it self leveling concrete? An extra 50 ltrs of water on top of the max allowed is normal for those dogs. Ends up 150+ slump when the customer has paid for installation at 80 slump on a 20MPA rated product. Can end up below 10 MPA once set after 28 days. Suggest the customer asks for a core sample test and you'll get your answer.
What a MASSIVE DODGY concreter. I also had a shocking concreter last time I hire a concreter, levels literally like a roller coaster, missing drains and down pipe they destroyed, literally bricks sticking out of concrete in driveway, totally different colour concrete patch work like they poured different concrete colours in patch area, driveway slanting to the left then right and then left and right, etc, 20 cm hole in the concrete where there was no concrete at all like as if they had left a pipe in there then removed it and then it became like a funnel, also deep groves in the concrete which were anything but straight, HEAPS of concrete splatter all down driveway as though size of a pea or 3 all over the place over the concrete, patchs of concrete poured over old concrete and grass exposed from under the new concrete, all up the side fence was a HUGE amount of concrete all over the fence which damaged the fence, and the area where meet house missing retaining wall to under the house, and the height of the concrete 1 to 2 foot higher than requested and they loaded with stones and sand to raise the level of concrete way too high which caused now a 1 to 2 meter drop cliff from the area of the concrete to the ground below where the concrete stops and the ground begins, walking path SO STEEP that the area where the walk path is is now totally unusable. front area infront of house so unlevel that there is literally a huge pond of water held up against the house and where rain water flows to the house and just stays there for a few days with a massive puddle against the house wall. so many other problems, if I mention them all that the concreter did wrong, this comment would be so many times longer.
I went to work for a contractor and I got out my level and string line but was told put that stuff away we don’t have time for that stuff so I quit before I got started.
the steel mesh flat on the ground? I have done only a couple concrete jobs and even as pure amateur think this is dodgy, and his excuse is it makes the job too hard whawha
@@jaibusby673 That’s pretty common when barrowing concrete. The chairs get in the way especially if you have nuffies on the barrows. But yeh it’s not right especially on a driveway that’s gonna have a heavy vehicle going over it constantly. Problem is most of the time once the cretes in and the boys are paid no one give a crap where that mesh is sitting until the cracks start forming months later.
Standard practice, to save time and money, is put the reo on the base, then pour the concrete, reach down by hand and lift the reo up into the pour. Shonky.
Such is with volume builders. Working with low profit margins so they go with the smallest bid from companies that will do the work cheaply and quickly so they squeeze every last dollar they can for themselves. They do the bare minimum necessities just to pass inspections to hand it over without care for the fact this will be someone’s home.
100% but I've also learnt that builders can be thieves and bullies. They pressure you into signing. And the average first home buyer won't know the ropes
A mate hired a line pump for a driveway addition a couple of years ago and the going rate then was $170hr with a minimum 4hr charge + $170hr travel + $7p/m3 pumped + GST. So its up around the $1k mark just to hire it for one job and im pretty sure they do at least 2 jobs a day. As a floor layer myself, 50% of my job is literally spent fixing their shit. So i would much rather see them invest that money on a laser level...or a regular level... or even a string line. *wishful thinking*🤔
@@GODEES77clearly not, because they even stated it in the video. Everyone’s happy to charge their rates out until they encounter a builder that wants the cheapest prices. People get upto shit about prices, then they cut corners to get the job to keep their business going. That’s why I stick to commercial lol
You can just put the chairs upside down and pull the mesh up as you go just before they are covered, barrow over the steel with no problems and be compliant.
You've got some balls to do the job you do! The construction industry needs more people like you! What is so rewarding is watching somebody performing their role knowing it upside down and inside out. There is no getting away with shortcuts! Well done!
Why does it mean he has “balls”? It just means he does his job properly unlike the masons/concrete guys. I’ve been in construction 20+ years and never once worried about an inspection because I do the job right and I don’t play games. You want some shady unsafe work done? That’s fine as the owner but I’ll pass on the contract. It ain’t worth losing my business license for one project and there’s never a shortage of work once you have an upstanding reputation. In fact, I more often than not have to TURN DOWN work just because I don’t have enough manpower to handle it all.
Protect this man at all costs. What a legend. The hero we don’t deserve but need so much. Too many crooks out there in construction. Making the majority of good builders and tradies look bad. The ‘flabbergasted’ shirt in the online store is brilliant.
Guy at the start super worried lol. As for them concreters theres no chairs, the mesh is just thrown down and not cut and tied together with a 300 ml overlap and no plastic underneath. 🤷🏽♂️🤦🏽. That is shonky work.
It'd be a disgusting job if it was a chook shed, as a brand new house it's criminal. You may as well not have any mesh at all if it's laying flat on dirt with no plastic, it'll be rusty wire by next year, supporting nothing.
@@joes2318 yeah I'm pretty sure the purpose of the plastic is create a vapor barrier so moisture does not wick up thru the concrete slab and cause damage to the frame and structure when used to make a slab that's undercover .but I'm not a concreter or anyone of any qualification it just seems like good common sense cause I bothered to pay attention in school sometimes when it was interesting and not about writing 1000 word essays.
Lazy flogs, they know perfectly well that reinforcing bar and mesh has to be elevated (by bar chairs in this case) to maintain consistent tensile strength, even without looking at the NCC. I'm not a builder or tradie and even I know this. I cannot stand people that are not professionals in their chosen industry.
He's pretending gravity doesn't exist and the reo isn't gonna just sink like a stone in the wet cement and be laying on the ground before it dries anyway. Unless the hipped shovel also alters universal physics when you touch reo-steel with it of course.
@@murry001 its not even difficult to put the chairs in as you go so the truck doesnt damage them. The flog just didnt want to pay for them or spend the time putting them in.
Don’t need a pump, you lay the chairs as you go. Used to do it like that just fine when I used to lay concrete. Not to mention you wouldn’t need a pump on those small driveways anyways with chairs and the truck wouldn’t be going on the mesh.
This is hilarious but also sad. The concreters would be a physical threat to most people. Well done on being completely calm and professional while respectfully calling out the BS.
By how they are acting, the inspector must be a physically very large man. A group of Australian concreters would be a threat to 99% of the population. The site supervisor tried his usual tricks and none of them worked.
@@johnreiner3247 ive dealt with a guy like this (ill come get ya if you dont pay for unquoted/unfinished work) took it to the police so id have some defence in court if he did come to get me and things got out of hand. The cops read through all his threats and admissions he had bashed people before when they wouldnt accept his work. they just said "thats not very nice, what do you want us to do - its a civil matter - call 000 if he bashes you" the only help you will get from the police is if they break a traffic law on the way to assault you.
Well done for calling these guys out ……. Doing the wrong thing. I’m afraid I have very little trust for concreters; they all say the same thing that they pull the steel up ….. I’ve watched them and they don’t do it ….. once it’s buried they don’t care.
its all good calling someone out but nothing ever happens, and its not really calling them out if you hide their companies names and blur all their information its actually protecting them.
@@knabdank That's not his job to blast the companies/traders on a public forum. It opens him up to being sued, then he has to spend his money and his time, fighting it in court. He would also have to deal with any blowback from these people and i highly doubt he wants death threats and violence aimed his way. It would also mean that these contractors would start making moves, so he can never have access to the properties. This is for the owners of the house to deal with, it's on them to write a review on the company/trader.
I have never seen a concreter using the chairs. 99% all leave the mesh on the ground. Wouldn't it be awesome if you could check concrete as part of your inspection. You would need some type of x-ray camera. You would have all concreters running for cover. Another awesome video man. ✌️ Peace
Cant believe how close to home some of these projects are! I would of driven past some of the sites you've visited countless times and then bam it shows up in one of your videos 😂😂
If I were to ever build the amount of anxiety owners have to deal with would send me over the edge, I wouldn't progress any stages or processes until you have validated each aspect, no doubt your expertise wouldn't be cheap, but the piece of mind - priceless
Thanks for being on the lookout for the owners ,as using a wheel barrow over chairs I've done it a thousand times you just correct any dislodged chairs as you go or throw a board down for the wheel barrow! No exuse for a lazy job! Do as if it for your own mother and have some pride
Yeah you are right, this is what confused me. I have not been involved with any concreting jobs in a decade but we had no issues with smaller jobs exactly as you described.
LOL oh man, plz hit us up with many more videos like this. I'll send you some $$ because this content is gold. He was so pissed knowing that he was caught. Update us on cases like this because its fun to see them sweat and the customer to get justice.
This is one of the best Australian RUclips channels for reasons which are obvious to anyone who watches even just one video. God tier content and I say this as someone 100% locked out of the Australian property market
Chairs are cheap. Chairs guarantee the steel position. I don’t know how many times I see the reo being lifted and then with everyone trampling on it and screeding invariably it works its way back to the bottom. Many slabs cut and removed generally show the steel on the ground. Heavier mesh, 32/20 mix, 110-115mm thick ,Conelly joints , vibration during placement,curing and cooling slab asap. Won’t have an issue. Saw cutting waste of time unless planned and mesh cut every second bar. Problem these days the trades want to finish as soon as they get to site. 😂
No one cuts mesh at control joints due to ignorance of the engineering concept. Is done on more major works when Engineers supervise. However full control joints of various types are now more complacent in commercial construction and should be used in residential. They are readily available.
@@christopher54179exactly. most, if not all engineering drawings for domestic sheds/driveways clearly state where the control joints go and how they should be prepped. The problem is the majority of concreters either CANT read the drawings or dont want to do any work they can get away with not doing long enough to get paid and for that money to be spent. its not worth taking old mate with $20 to his name and a clapped out 20 year old ute to court/VCAT. Half the concreters ive used (no matter how well recommended or knowledgeable) start talking like this one as soon as you point out that the drawings / regs say they are doing it wrong and will come up with a million reasons why the people that write the regs, the manufacturers of the materials, and the engineers that drew the engineering plans are wrong and they are right "ive done a million slabs like this, it wont crack" "you are trying to rip me off" "i didnt allow this in my quote" and will start to get aggro threatening to walk off the job because you are "hovering over them". funnily enough, after the slab cracks they always say "every slab cracks - its the concrete they sell nowdays". I *think* this is part of the reason that slab designs are getting more and more ridiculous, engineer specifies the slab, old mate cuts corners, takes money to the bottleshop, slab cracks, engineer beefs up next slab design, old mate cuts even more corners, takes money to the bottle shop slab cracks engineer beefs up design. repeat until a slab that cost 10K 30 years ago costs 50K and still cracks. yet a slab done with any amount of care professional or otherwise never seems to fail. The good concreters are really hard to hire for a job because they are booked out 6 months in advance. the slab for my shed has 600d*300w beams all the way around and every 4m within, with a 150mm thick infill, and heaps of rebar. the soil fill and sand base were done as well as needed for the surveyor to pass it but not quite as the regs stated (special "clay" sand that didnt need compacting and soil was compacted with the excavators tracks) it has cracks just like a 100mm thick driveway slab would. i pointed out heaps of times that there were things not done as per the drawings but he knew better / would sort it out at the end. once my final payment was handed over i got told to f*^k off when i asked him to rectify problems. Even the builder of our house (midsize local company) didnt want to follow the plans or the regulations when it suited them. brickwork was cracked from day 1, and they would only measure cracks with tape measure for the squint factor even though a micrometer showed they were over what the standards allowed) their bricky said it was fine, yet every bricky thats visited my place has seen the cracks from 10m away and pretty much ran over going "what the F%$k is THAT" their excuse for every problem was always "every one of our builds looks like this". I got a heap of stuff rectified but there was so much that the smaller problems got passed over. yet im not allowed to build any residential structure myself because "ill do it wrong"
This will help to make the building industry more accountable. If you wont to make the big bucks fine don't make the home owners pay for your NON-COMPLYANT shoddy work.
It wont help. This is what the industry has been like for decades because the actual building commissioners in each state have done nothing about it for decades.
You can go look up the documentaries made 5+ years ago about the sad state of the australian construction industry. Nothing will be done until people start lighting things on fire after their homes start failing en masse.
Where are all the inspectors / Surveyors who work for the client, rather than the builders. So the concreter is admitting EVERY "nonpumped" JOB THEY POUR - there is no control over reinforcement location.. (is this "across the board" - poor / non compliant workmanship - for "every" driveway and patio in the nation???) - Stating that it "stays up" / supported / in the concrete pour - at some arbitrary location (not as per engineered). (needs a series of cut tests - to see if their "theory" is true...) Agreeing to anything which will then void al "warranties" seems ridiculous. Stating that if chairs are used, every job needs to be pumped, seems mostly to be profiteering.. (btw, running a pumper trailer on nearly every job would probably be a cost effective thing for most concreters - saves all that barrow work - gets the load to right where it is needed, with quicker turnaround for the trucks.. How can anything get rectified, IF the trades are insistent that their way is "right" - in the face of evidence to the contrary??
That first guy is super dodgy. Coming up to you as though he is embarrassed because its not ready yet haha pffft. Building inspectors should be driving around all over every state pulling up on any random residential site to see how dodgy the industry is and making sure consumers get a properly built home
Great job per usual mate. Gotta hook up a little portable speaker to that drone and blast your catchphrases; "Lingering in the darkness are defects that need to be documented, asapeee!" & "I can smell non-compliant works in the air" when you come across manned jobsites and get their reactions.
2 Self created consumer groups since the early 2000's have alerted all levels of Government/Grubberment, and all the consumer bodies, Building Commision, (though when set up by builders obviously biased), Consumer Affairs, ACCC, ASIC etc. All major political parties. Including the financial bankruptcy to consumers, mental and physical health impacts, Job losses, Marriage and relationship breakdowns, even miscarriages and a couple of consumer deaths. All they've done is rebranded the VBA, made what generally way inadequate redress thriugh VCAT even harder and more costly to obtain, (Building Warranty Insurance is a joke!), and covered all up as well as all.of these shonky "builders", read fraudulent criminals. Need people marching on Parliaments/Royal Commission about. Keep watching these vids..
im not even a tradie and i still understand that steel rebar reinforcement should be encased with a minimum thickness of concrete on all sides for corrosion prevention and that thickness varies depending on how close to the ocean and salty air it is installed and also the load requirements, these are basic fundamentals taught in a simple pre apprentice tafe couse. using a hook on a shovel cannot guarantee that the concrete encasement thickness is accurate and without deviation, hence why those bar chairs which are made to a national standard and specification. dodgy workmanship and cost cutting is what is being done to either make more profit or undercut the competition pricing.
if the cost of the concrete pumping method or bar chairs is too expensive then invent a better product or method that complies with the national standards. national standards exist to prevent damage, death and injury.
pretty simple - if the rebar is at the bottom then it aint re-inforcing optimally, can get rising moisture and can flex more. They arent even lashing the panels together
@@PSY7HON i know a couple that did apprenticeships, you have to book them 6 months in advance they have so much work on because everyone wants them to do their concreting. they are usually more upset than you are if their work cracks. The other ones i know labored for a concreter, then struck out on their own. they can assemble a team of similar guys with 2 days notice, crank out a slab (including excavation) within a week of you calling them but it will only resemble the drawings, and its more a question of how bad it will crack.
The cracks that are going to come through the concrete is going to be a consistent problem every time the ground moves due to seasonal moisture changes. Not to mention no plastic under so the reo is sitting basically on the dirt.
perfect rust storm, the reo will be rusty shards by next year and you could guarantee they didn't pack the soil nor do the ground drainage right, so it'll be cracking in a year too.
there usually isnt a need for the vapor barrier under exterior concrete, there should however be a consistent base of gravel/sand to allow for variations in the soil.
@@darrenjpeters If the soil is wet from recent rain, as this was, you need plastic. If the soil is raw, unscreened fill full of rubble, roots and grass, as this was; you need plastic. If you have less than 40mm coverage under the reo, as this slab did; you need plastic. All that's in the NCC 3.2. "Wrong is wrong, even if everybody is doing it. Right is right, even if nobody is doing it."
I used bar chairs on a 1m x2m slab for my hot water service......why? Because it makes a better job, the old skool method of lifting the reo/mesh while the concrete is poured is very time intensive to get right, even on a small job, and its impossible to do on anything larger. Its bollocks to skip chairs on large pours to get the mesh in the correct position to do its job.........hello cracked slab/driveway.
They still do the lift method around my area all the time. Most of the concrete rakes have a peg/hook on the back for that purpose. Not saying it's correct, just that it is more common than chairs around here.
5:50 Looks like these guys are not pulling up any rebar. They're raking and floating the concrete with the bar flat on the ground. Make them give a 30yr warranty to the owners
Brother it sounds like your saying " box cutters' it took me ages till I understood WTF you were talking about, never have I seen those types of roofs or gutters, you taught me lots so quickly, thank you.
What does the wheelbarrow vs pump debate have to do with whether bar chairs are placed? Is it about not being able to get the wheelbarrow to the middle of a wide pour area if the chairs are already in place? I assume that's why he pointed out that there weren't any chairs on the small pours too.
Nah dodgy bob still dodging the issue, in a small pour you just lay them as you go, throw some on the outsides to get the spacing, it takes very little time while you wait for the next barrow. At worst you might need a rag handy to get any clumps of dirt off the reo where the barrows been pushing it down, or you know, use friggen plastic like your meant to! 😆2 bricks and a plank for the barrow also works, then you can lay all the chairs out first. Just lame excuses, he knew it was the wrong way, he just trying to hide his embarrassment behind verbal diahreah.
castle hill... macquarie park... not just buildings... didnt they screw up on a pylon for the metro out rousehill? had to move it... lane cove tunnel collapse... i remember that one! current rozelle SHTF.... ummm. oh yeah, the new "light rail" not interchanging with the old. something about trains being too wide for the tracks? give it a few more years as the current spate of crap starts showing its true integrity.
I am not a tradesperson yet I tend to do the majority of jobs myself. Not because I like doing it but because I want it done properly & at a fair price.
Classic concreter 😂😂😂 I'm glad I'm in the industry. When my shed was getting built, i inspected it myself. My concreter was an absolute legend, membrane done properly, chaired up correctly with proper mesh overlap and a perfectly flat uniform finish fortunately. As were my steel erecting team, not one bolt missed and quality inspection also came out to ensure all was finished right
Bar chairs are least of your issues when it comes down to domestic concrete works. The domestic concrete industry has decreased dramatically over the last 10-15 years with inexperienced workmanship.
There is ZERO accountability for these cowboys. I have a driveway that’s a yr old falling apart. Inspected by QBCC, defected yet nothing can be done if concreter does follow through
I’m constantly shocked with how bad Australian trades are, I’m from uk and when I worked out there with people, I was constantly pulling my hair out. No pride in work just sneaky tradies trying to cash in on jobs. Real shame for customers.
Yeah, when you show up and some dude's talking your ear off about unimportant or "confusing" things that don't really matter, you know you've stumbled onto some gold. Can't tell you how many time's I've had some dude some up on me like that instantly knowing something's off. These dudes need to learn a little humility, coming up on you like that is basically announcing to the world they're up to some shady stuff. Reminds me of when I was a kid and I'd rush to the teachers so I could be the first one to get my story straight/out there.
In my 45 years of building I only came across 1 Concretor I could trust. Does anybody know hard it is to lift reinforcing steel up to the specified clearance with a load of concrete on it? Impossible.
Carpenter by trade here not that difficult at all look at the back of a concrete rake that hook is for that exact reason. U can flip it upside down and lever the mesh up
Next thing they do is disconnect their phones and trade under a different name. What are the odds that one day, Site Inspections and ACA arrive at the same property. Cheers
welcome to BUILDING - each trade blames the other you need to be on site every day these volume builders that have project managers drive around few times a week if that
mine only used to come out to site during the stage completion inspections, He made the funniest faces while he tried to figure out WTF the trades were even thinking when we pointed out the things theyd screwed up. whatever they saved hiring the cheapest guys they lost in the mental anguish i put them through. Id call him from site and ask about a known issue, he'd tell me, "oh, i was there thismorning they have fixed that" while i was standing there looking at the unresolved issue with the next trade about to cover it up. "but its dangerous for you to be on site" "why dont you put up the temp fencing that youve charged me for then?" i told them im paying the mortgage, ill come here whenever i want.
While bar chairs are standard protocol, the actual concept of having a piece of plastic, running 3/4 of the way through the slab, is nowhere near as strong as lifting the steel mesh and having nothing but concrete. The Problem there though is ensuring the mesh is even off the ground, throughout the slab, hence why chairs are used. Ultimately, having a solid base, correct thickness of concrete, good expansion cuts and vibration to avoid air gaps, are FAR more important then chairs. But i love this guy because he dont miss a thing👍
“It’s not ready for inspection” is code for, “we haven’t finished covering up our dodgy construction methods yet”.
Exactly
exactly - incomplete isnt the issue, but shit design, not working to design or shit workmanship lives all the way through the process
There is another YT channel. The person was in the process of building a retaining wall. The neighbour called enforcement which resulted in an inspector arriving within a few hours. The YT talked with the inspector for several minutes, complaining about nosy neighbours, shoddy construction, etc. The person never tried to shoo the inspector away from the construction site. In fact they were standing next to the retaining wall as it was getting built by the workers as they were talking. The inspector had a good look at the type of retaining wall being emplaced, the methods of it being emplaced, and what material was being used.
If a site _isn't_ ready for an inspection it means the site is in violation of at least _one_ building code and the site supervisor is aware they are.
The funny thing is usually the cover up is more work than just doing it correctly the first time. But they never learn haha
yep its the same the whole world over
Was it self leveling concrete? An extra 50 ltrs of water on top of the max allowed is normal for those dogs.
Ends up 150+ slump when the customer has paid for installation at 80 slump on a 20MPA rated product.
Can end up below 10 MPA once set after 28 days.
Suggest the customer asks for a core sample test and you'll get your answer.
more money for beer
Wow, they don't ever use chairs. Just lie the mesh on the dirt, no worries 👌
Had to look up what Concrete bar chairs were. I had no idea these things existed.
What a MASSIVE DODGY concreter. I also had a shocking concreter last time I hire a concreter, levels literally like a roller coaster, missing drains and down pipe they destroyed, literally bricks sticking out of concrete in driveway, totally different colour concrete patch work like they poured different concrete colours in patch area, driveway slanting to the left then right and then left and right, etc, 20 cm hole in the concrete where there was no concrete at all like as if they had left a pipe in there then removed it and then it became like a funnel, also deep groves in the concrete which were anything but straight, HEAPS of concrete splatter all down driveway as though size of a pea or 3 all over the place over the concrete, patchs of concrete poured over old concrete and grass exposed from under the new concrete, all up the side fence was a HUGE amount of concrete all over the fence which damaged the fence, and the area where meet house missing retaining wall to under the house, and the height of the concrete 1 to 2 foot higher than requested and they loaded with stones and sand to raise the level of concrete way too high which caused now a 1 to 2 meter drop cliff from the area of the concrete to the ground below where the concrete stops and the ground begins, walking path SO STEEP that the area where the walk path is is now totally unusable. front area infront of house so unlevel that there is literally a huge pond of water held up against the house and where rain water flows to the house and just stays there for a few days with a massive puddle against the house wall. so many other problems, if I mention them all that the concreter did wrong, this comment would be so many times longer.
Man that was an awkward interaction at the end hats off to ya doing this and putting up with dodgy contractors
these guys KNOW they are doing it wrong and cutting corners, they should all be charged.
Imagine losing thousands of dollars because you could t be arsed putting bar chairs in
I went to work for a contractor and I got out my level and string line but was told put that stuff away we don’t have time for that stuff so I quit before I got started.
He knows he’s been caught cutting corners and shoddy construction!
Im not to " hip" with concrete lingo, is the concern the mess not being lifted off the ground?
no wayy
You're an inspiration to George Orwell.
New hobby idea, just flyin my drone above construction sites and seeing the mad scramble.
Funny enough OHS inspectors are getting drone haha.v
If its non compliant, drop a frag 😂
- just be careful of CASA - if they complain.
like watching roaches scurry off under cover.
let the paranoia roll
We need more content like this! These guys never face any consequences and that’s what really makes us angry.
easy to punish a errant contractor
These contractor may wanna specialize in block paving now you have them craping bricks!
the steel mesh flat on the ground? I have done only a couple concrete jobs and even as pure amateur think this is dodgy, and his excuse is it makes the job too hard whawha
Really need to go a step further and see company names though. Can almost guarantee they'll be straight back to their dodgy ways next job.
@@jaibusby673 That’s pretty common when barrowing concrete. The chairs get in the way especially if you have nuffies on the barrows. But yeh it’s not right especially on a driveway that’s gonna have a heavy vehicle going over it constantly. Problem is most of the time once the cretes in and the boys are paid no one give a crap where that mesh is sitting until the cracks start forming months later.
When they approach you this quickly you have to know something is up
In a perfect world they'll either be leaving you alone- Or saying "hey mate come check out job out" and getting the thumbs up.
For real. Just do your job, if you got no probs they can see that. Hes on the defense before Inspector even says a word.
Delaying you from going around the back until they've finished the pour. Most likely didn't even hook the mesh.
I think it is clear from the conversation these concreters have never used chairs ever unless they're sitting on them
concreters don't even sit on chairs, they sit on milk crates.
@@IhavebeenwatchingyouNo! Empty plaster buckets 😂
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Standard practice, to save time and money, is put the reo on the base, then pour the concrete, reach down by hand and lift the reo up into the pour. Shonky.
@@tezzrterry7485 they can save a whole $5
You are a nightmare to bad builders when you appear on site 😂😂
Good.
He's like Freddy Krueger
They don't want to use bar chairs because they cost $0.50 per chair. Meanwhile the client is paying thousands of dollars for the job. What a joke.
Yep, I'd make the pricks dig it all up and start over...don't pay extra for it too.
They can be as low as 35 cents if you lucky...its no excuse though
then this happens... stepping over dollars to save pennies.
@@nathansheehan9930 25c if you buy bulk...
Such is with volume builders.
Working with low profit margins so they go with the smallest bid from companies that will do the work cheaply and quickly so they squeeze every last dollar they can for themselves.
They do the bare minimum necessities just to pass inspections to hand it over without care for the fact this will be someone’s home.
Non compliant == non payment.
100% but I've also learnt that builders can be thieves and bullies. They pressure you into signing. And the average first home buyer won't know the ropes
Yeah they use tactics like “ it’s only gonna end up costing you more later if you don’t pay now”
every salesman is a bullying con artist.@@brumby92
Non payment = trades returning to destroy the driveway and leave it for the owner to remove
Sounds like he didn’t want to pay for it to be pumped……. I bet he invoiced/quoted for it though
You know it mate.
A mate hired a line pump for a driveway addition a couple of years ago and the going rate then was $170hr with a minimum 4hr charge + $170hr travel + $7p/m3 pumped + GST. So its up around the $1k mark just to hire it for one job and im pretty sure they do at least 2 jobs a day.
As a floor layer myself, 50% of my job is literally spent fixing their shit. So i would much rather see them invest that money on a laser level...or a regular level... or even a string line. *wishful thinking*🤔
@@zchettaz like I said I bet they quote it as it’s a building code regulation and then do it on the cheap so they can pocket big profits
@@GODEES77clearly not, because they even stated it in the video.
Everyone’s happy to charge their rates out until they encounter a builder that wants the cheapest prices.
People get upto shit about prices, then they cut corners to get the job to keep their business going.
That’s why I stick to commercial lol
You can just put the chairs upside down and pull the mesh up as you go just before they are covered, barrow over the steel with no problems and be compliant.
“You know what it’s like man, you know… a scam is a scam.”
Exactly how are they scamming? Looks like the guys just being a lottle bitch.
You've got some balls to do the job you do! The construction industry needs more people like you! What is so rewarding is watching somebody performing their role knowing it upside down and inside out. There is no getting away with shortcuts! Well done!
Why does it mean he has “balls”? It just means he does his job properly unlike the masons/concrete guys. I’ve been in construction 20+ years and never once worried about an inspection because I do the job right and I don’t play games. You want some shady unsafe work done? That’s fine as the owner but I’ll pass on the contract. It ain’t worth losing my business license for one project and there’s never a shortage of work once you have an upstanding reputation. In fact, I more often than not have to TURN DOWN work just because I don’t have enough manpower to handle it all.
Protect this man at all costs. What a legend. The hero we don’t deserve but need so much. Too many crooks out there in construction. Making the majority of good builders and tradies look bad.
The ‘flabbergasted’ shirt in the online store is brilliant.
Guy at the start super worried lol. As for them concreters theres no chairs, the mesh is just thrown down and not cut and tied together with a 300 ml overlap and no plastic underneath. 🤷🏽♂️🤦🏽. That is shonky work.
It'd be a disgusting job if it was a chook shed, as a brand new house it's criminal. You may as well not have any mesh at all if it's laying flat on dirt with no plastic, it'll be rusty wire by next year, supporting nothing.
@@joes2318 can't tell if joke or you just don't comprehend concrete at all
and all verbally protested in perfect Australian born strine...
@@wobblyboost must of been him that did it 😂😂😂.
@@joes2318 yeah I'm pretty sure the purpose of the plastic is create a vapor barrier so moisture does not wick up thru the concrete slab and cause damage to the frame and structure when used to make a slab that's undercover .but I'm not a concreter or anyone of any qualification it just seems like good common sense cause I bothered to pay attention in school sometimes when it was interesting and not about writing 1000 word essays.
The nervous voice, garbled nonsense and swinging keys… lol, you rattled those clowns
That's the 45 years of alcholism tbf
Lazy flogs, they know perfectly well that reinforcing bar and mesh has to be elevated (by bar chairs in this case) to maintain consistent tensile strength, even without looking at the NCC. I'm not a builder or tradie and even I know this. I cannot stand people that are not professionals in their chosen industry.
yobbo yobs.
He's pretending gravity doesn't exist and the reo isn't gonna just sink like a stone in the wet cement and be laying on the ground before it dries anyway. Unless the hipped shovel also alters universal physics when you touch reo-steel with it of course.
the most basic shit putting bar chairs in, and they can't even do that.
@@murry001 its not even difficult to put the chairs in as you go so the truck doesnt damage them. The flog just didnt want to pay for them or spend the time putting them in.
@@wazza33racerI love that your comment has a ‘translate’ button 😂😂😂
YT obviously can’t understand Aussie slang
Oi Oi Oi 🇦🇺
Don’t need a pump, you lay the chairs as you go. Used to do it like that just fine when I used to lay concrete. Not to mention you wouldn’t need a pump on those small driveways anyways with chairs and the truck wouldn’t be going on the mesh.
Clearly these guys don't lay chairs as they go
@daniel.s8126 lol lazy , it's harder then putting chairs in if done properly
So, it's not done properly then...? Wow, who knew?
She's well and truely buried, they don't even do that @@daniel.s8126
Exactly mate
This is hilarious but also sad. The concreters would be a physical threat to most people. Well done on being completely calm and professional while respectfully calling out the BS.
Concretor was pretty good at "speaking politely but with a pinch of agression"
By how they are acting, the inspector must be a physically very large man. A group of Australian concreters would be a threat to 99% of the population. The site supervisor tried his usual tricks and none of them worked.
@@johnreiner3247
ive dealt with a guy like this (ill come get ya if you dont pay for unquoted/unfinished work) took it to the police so id have some defence in court if he did come to get me and things got out of hand.
The cops read through all his threats and admissions he had bashed people before when they wouldnt accept his work. they just said "thats not very nice, what do you want us to do - its a civil matter - call 000 if he bashes you" the only help you will get from the police is if they break a traffic law on the way to assault you.
Sure the inspector dude is pretty intimidating himself. Guessing he’s 6’3?
@@panamaJyeah around the 6' mark from memory
If they are doing the job right, why do they need to be so nervous during a routine inspection?
exactly - hes not inspecting for progress, hes inspecting for dodgy shit
Good tradesmen don't have an issue with you watching or inspecting their work.
Great work mate!!!!!!
If we have more people like you in the industry the industry will be so much better than what it is now!!!
Well done for calling these guys out ……. Doing the wrong thing. I’m afraid I have very little trust for concreters; they all say the same thing that they pull the steel up ….. I’ve watched them and they don’t do it ….. once it’s buried they don’t care.
These guys seem pretty legit and love what they do www.youtube.com/@Concretewiththehauses/featured
its all good calling someone out but nothing ever happens, and its not really calling them out if you hide their companies names and blur all their information its actually protecting them.
I worked in construction for two years and we did lift it up when we poured. I did see a lot of contractors that didn’t
@@knabdank That's not his job to blast the companies/traders on a public forum. It opens him up to being sued, then he has to spend his money and his time, fighting it in court. He would also have to deal with any blowback from these people and i highly doubt he wants death threats and violence aimed his way. It would also mean that these contractors would start making moves, so he can never have access to the properties. This is for the owners of the house to deal with, it's on them to write a review on the company/trader.
I have never seen a concreter using the chairs. 99% all leave the mesh on the ground.
Wouldn't it be awesome if you could check concrete as part of your inspection.
You would need some type of x-ray camera.
You would have all concreters running for cover.
Another awesome video man.
✌️ Peace
How dodgy, he knew it too. Keep up the good work!
Cant believe how close to home some of these projects are! I would of driven past some of the sites you've visited countless times and then bam it shows up in one of your videos 😂😂
I've seen myself walking the dog past in one of his videos.
It was months ago before I was aware of this legend
If I were to ever build the amount of anxiety owners have to deal with would send me over the edge, I wouldn't progress any stages or processes until you have validated each aspect, no doubt your expertise wouldn't be cheap, but the piece of mind - priceless
Exactly wha5 I would do too, it will save money and time in the long run!
First you'd have to buy a copy of every Standard to even know what was expected. Home owners have no hope.
peace of mind
Thanks for being on the lookout for the owners ,as using a wheel barrow over chairs I've done it a thousand times you just correct any dislodged chairs as you go or throw a board down for the wheel barrow! No exuse for a lazy job! Do as if it for your own mother and have some pride
I know right?
Yeah you are right, this is what confused me. I have not been involved with any concreting jobs in a decade but we had no issues with smaller jobs exactly as you described.
never trust anyone. that should be everyones motto
Treat everybody as corrupt and you won't be disappointed
What a fine way to live a life😅😅😅
@TheInvoice123 including yourself?😅😅
@@robertfonovic3551 I Live My Life a Quarter Mile at a Time, nothing else matters
The Dr. House motto: Everybody Lies
3 guarantees in life. Death taxes and your concrete is going to crack.
New halloween costume: site inspections kit, run around to every building site yelling non-compliant... scariest thing ever
The way he swings his keys says it all 😂
ya know what they say, big key chain little ....
Anxiety was peaking for him
Lazy
Place the chairs as you go when barrowing or backing truck over.
Just lazy.
LOL oh man, plz hit us up with many more videos like this. I'll send you some $$ because this content is gold. He was so pissed knowing that he was caught. Update us on cases like this because its fun to see them sweat and the customer to get justice.
This is one of the best Australian RUclips channels for reasons which are obvious to anyone who watches even just one video. God tier content and I say this as someone 100% locked out of the Australian property market
Bar chairs mate. How hard can it be…
Not hard. They just want to save a few extra bucks for beer and pokies later!
Ye gotta pump it every job 🥴
Chairs are cheap. Chairs guarantee the steel position. I don’t know how many times I see the reo being lifted and then with everyone trampling on it and screeding invariably it works its way back to the bottom. Many slabs cut and removed generally show the steel on the ground. Heavier mesh, 32/20 mix, 110-115mm thick ,Conelly joints , vibration during placement,curing and cooling slab asap. Won’t have an issue. Saw cutting waste of time unless planned and mesh cut every second bar. Problem these days the trades want to finish as soon as they get to site. 😂
ive seen exactly 0 shed/driveway slabs poured where they bothered cutting the mesh at the control lines.
No one cuts mesh at control joints due to ignorance of the engineering concept. Is done on more major works when Engineers supervise. However full control joints of various types are now more complacent in commercial construction and should be used in residential. They are readily available.
@@christopher54179exactly. most, if not all engineering drawings for domestic sheds/driveways clearly state where the control joints go and how they should be prepped. The problem is the majority of concreters either CANT read the drawings or dont want to do any work they can get away with not doing long enough to get paid and for that money to be spent. its not worth taking old mate with $20 to his name and a clapped out 20 year old ute to court/VCAT.
Half the concreters ive used (no matter how well recommended or knowledgeable) start talking like this one as soon as you point out that the drawings / regs say they are doing it wrong and will come up with a million reasons why the people that write the regs, the manufacturers of the materials, and the engineers that drew the engineering plans are wrong and they are right "ive done a million slabs like this, it wont crack" "you are trying to rip me off" "i didnt allow this in my quote" and will start to get aggro threatening to walk off the job because you are "hovering over them". funnily enough, after the slab cracks they always say "every slab cracks - its the concrete they sell nowdays".
I *think* this is part of the reason that slab designs are getting more and more ridiculous, engineer specifies the slab, old mate cuts corners, takes money to the bottleshop, slab cracks, engineer beefs up next slab design, old mate cuts even more corners, takes money to the bottle shop slab cracks engineer beefs up design. repeat until a slab that cost 10K 30 years ago costs 50K and still cracks. yet a slab done with any amount of care professional or otherwise never seems to fail. The good concreters are really hard to hire for a job because they are booked out 6 months in advance.
the slab for my shed has 600d*300w beams all the way around and every 4m within, with a 150mm thick infill, and heaps of rebar. the soil fill and sand base were done as well as needed for the surveyor to pass it but not quite as the regs stated (special "clay" sand that didnt need compacting and soil was compacted with the excavators tracks) it has cracks just like a 100mm thick driveway slab would. i pointed out heaps of times that there were things not done as per the drawings but he knew better / would sort it out at the end. once my final payment was handed over i got told to f*^k off when i asked him to rectify problems.
Even the builder of our house (midsize local company) didnt want to follow the plans or the regulations when it suited them. brickwork was cracked from day 1, and they would only measure cracks with tape measure for the squint factor even though a micrometer showed they were over what the standards allowed) their bricky said it was fine, yet every bricky thats visited my place has seen the cracks from 10m away and pretty much ran over going "what the F%$k is THAT" their excuse for every problem was always "every one of our builds looks like this". I got a heap of stuff rectified but there was so much that the smaller problems got passed over.
yet im not allowed to build any residential structure myself because "ill do it wrong"
This will help to make the building industry more accountable. If you wont to make the big bucks fine don't make the home owners pay for your NON-COMPLYANT shoddy work.
It wont help. This is what the industry has been like for decades because the actual building commissioners in each state have done nothing about it for decades.
You can go look up the documentaries made 5+ years ago about the sad state of the australian construction industry. Nothing will be done until people start lighting things on fire after their homes start failing en masse.
What about non compliant spelling
Where are all the inspectors / Surveyors who work for the client, rather than the builders.
So the concreter is admitting EVERY "nonpumped" JOB THEY POUR - there is no control over reinforcement location..
(is this "across the board" - poor / non compliant workmanship - for "every" driveway and patio in the nation???)
- Stating that it "stays up" / supported / in the concrete pour - at some arbitrary location (not as per engineered).
(needs a series of cut tests - to see if their "theory" is true...)
Agreeing to anything which will then void al "warranties" seems ridiculous.
Stating that if chairs are used, every job needs to be pumped, seems mostly to be profiteering..
(btw, running a pumper trailer on nearly every job would probably be a cost effective thing for most concreters - saves all that barrow work - gets the load to right where it is needed, with quicker turnaround for the trucks..
How can anything get rectified, IF the trades are insistent that their way is "right" - in the face of evidence to the contrary??
That first guy is super dodgy. Coming up to you as though he is embarrassed because its not ready yet haha pffft.
Building inspectors should be driving around all over every state pulling up on any random residential site to see how dodgy the industry is and making sure consumers get a properly built home
Pump on every job? BS, you can add bar chairs as you go, just like you can pull your mesh up with a shovel. They are just too damn lazy.
agree - and if it needs a pump it needs a pump, might be a $1k passed on (probably quoted anyway), but you cant just do a piss job instead
Great job per usual mate. Gotta hook up a little portable speaker to that drone and blast your catchphrases; "Lingering in the darkness are defects that need to be documented, asapeee!" & "I can smell non-compliant works in the air" when you come across manned jobsites and get their reactions.
Hahaha
top comment here
Definitely include “Good from Far but Far from Good!”
The government needs to step into this sh*t.
thats just wishful thinking these days
They won’t. I don’t even know why they exist.
2 Self created consumer groups since the early 2000's have alerted all levels of Government/Grubberment, and all the consumer bodies, Building Commision, (though when set up by builders obviously biased), Consumer Affairs, ACCC, ASIC etc. All major political parties. Including the financial bankruptcy to consumers, mental and physical health impacts, Job losses, Marriage and relationship breakdowns, even miscarriages and a couple of consumer deaths. All they've done is rebranded the VBA, made what generally way inadequate redress thriugh VCAT even harder and more costly to obtain, (Building Warranty Insurance is a joke!), and covered all up as well as all.of these shonky "builders", read fraudulent criminals. Need people marching on Parliaments/Royal Commission about. Keep watching these vids..
They definitely won’t. In fact they’ll ignore it more than ever - they want hundreds of thousands of new houses in the next few years.
the government is corrupt
im not even a tradie and i still understand that steel rebar reinforcement should be encased with a minimum thickness of concrete on all sides for corrosion prevention and that thickness varies depending on how close to the ocean and salty air it is installed and also the load requirements, these are basic fundamentals taught in a simple pre apprentice tafe couse. using a hook on a shovel cannot guarantee that the concrete encasement thickness is accurate and without deviation, hence why those bar chairs which are made to a national standard and specification. dodgy workmanship and cost cutting is what is being done to either make more profit or undercut the competition pricing.
if the cost of the concrete pumping method or bar chairs is too expensive then invent a better product or method that complies with the national standards. national standards exist to prevent damage, death and injury.
I have been on many construction sites and have only ever met one concreter who did an apprenticeship in concreting.
Bingo, you nailed it mate. I'm not a concreter- I focus more on asphalt, but you got it spot on.
pretty simple - if the rebar is at the bottom then it aint re-inforcing optimally, can get rising moisture and can flex more. They arent even lashing the panels together
@@PSY7HON i know a couple that did apprenticeships, you have to book them 6 months in advance they have so much work on because everyone wants them to do their concreting. they are usually more upset than you are if their work cracks.
The other ones i know labored for a concreter, then struck out on their own. they can assemble a team of similar guys with 2 days notice, crank out a slab (including excavation) within a week of you calling them but it will only resemble the drawings, and its more a question of how bad it will crack.
They have always used chairs when doing a proper job and always used to barrow everything. Pumps are relative new. No excuses.
The cracks that are going to come through the concrete is going to be a consistent problem every time the ground moves due to seasonal moisture changes. Not to mention no plastic under so the reo is sitting basically on the dirt.
But they'll pull it up once the concrete has been laid. 😆
perfect rust storm, the reo will be rusty shards by next year and you could guarantee they didn't pack the soil nor do the ground drainage right, so it'll be cracking in a year too.
there usually isnt a need for the vapor barrier under exterior concrete, there should however be a consistent base of gravel/sand to allow for variations in the soil.
Nobody puts plastic under paving concrete, champ. It's not in the building code either.
@@darrenjpeters If the soil is wet from recent rain, as this was, you need plastic. If the soil is raw, unscreened fill full of rubble, roots and grass, as this was; you need plastic. If you have less than 40mm coverage under the reo, as this slab did; you need plastic. All that's in the NCC 3.2.
"Wrong is wrong, even if everybody is doing it. Right is right, even if nobody is doing it."
lazy sods
If its Barrow You Chair as you go no ifs or buts, hook on shovel there kidding themselves! There $20.00 a bag.
There's a video on bunnings called "How to install wire mesh in concrete" . Maybe they could just watch that to see how it's done.
I used bar chairs on a 1m x2m slab for my hot water service......why? Because it makes a better job, the old skool method of lifting the reo/mesh while the concrete is poured is very time intensive to get right, even on a small job, and its impossible to do on anything larger. Its bollocks to skip chairs on large pours to get the mesh in the correct position to do its job.........hello cracked slab/driveway.
They still do the lift method around my area all the time. Most of the concrete rakes have a peg/hook on the back for that purpose. Not saying it's correct, just that it is more common than chairs around here.
Shocking to think how many jobs the concreter has done that weren't in accordance with proper standards. So many dodgy concreters out there.
Dodgy bloody concreters all the time. Bar chairs need to be used, not this bullshit pull the mesh up.
The good old building industry eh...
Nobody is ever wrong, and it's never anybody's fault
Once the truck moves FORWARD! It takes one guy 10 seconds to place chairs under the 3m Shoot.... repeat.... repeat. Very simple
Enlighten me here someone, are these muppets just laying rebar on the ground and pouring on top of it?
5:50 Looks like these guys are not pulling up any rebar. They're raking and floating the concrete with the bar flat on the ground. Make them give a 30yr warranty to the owners
Warranty is useless when the builder goes bust in 12 months
@@Chrissmills warranty is handled by the state building authorities.
@@ravenof1985 good luck claiming on it if the company has gone bust
Based on this evidence, they should pay for testing to prove the concrete is to the Australian standards. Possibly including destructive testing
@@nitsuadivad The easiest test is drive a 3 tonne RV/truck on it and see if it cracks
Brother it sounds like your saying " box cutters' it took me ages till I understood WTF you were talking about, never have I seen those types of roofs or gutters, you taught me lots so quickly, thank you.
Mate when concreters hire a bloke for cash and he has a accident on site on hurts himself they just bury him in the concrete.
And call it rebloke 😊
What does the wheelbarrow vs pump debate have to do with whether bar chairs are placed? Is it about not being able to get the wheelbarrow to the middle of a wide pour area if the chairs are already in place? I assume that's why he pointed out that there weren't any chairs on the small pours too.
Nah dodgy bob still dodging the issue, in a small pour you just lay them as you go, throw some on the outsides to get the spacing, it takes very little time while you wait for the next barrow.
At worst you might need a rag handy to get any clumps of dirt off the reo where the barrows been pushing it down, or you know, use friggen plastic like your meant to! 😆2 bricks and a plank for the barrow also works, then you can lay all the chairs out first.
Just lame excuses, he knew it was the wrong way, he just trying to hide his embarrassment behind verbal diahreah.
You can totally barrow it, he's just making excuses, just use some planks.
Seriously love your work mate, I can't overstate how important what you are doing is.
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“If I had to do that thing I’m required to do, that means I would have to do my job properly…” would you like a burger with those cries.
At least the bottom of the concrete wont crack
The thing is, they have gotten away with shonky work for so long they have to think carefully how to describe how a proper job is done.😂😂😂
The way they all absolutely freak out when an actual independent inspector rocks up tells you all you need to know.
This is the standard in Australia for domestic construction, including low to medium rise towers eg: Mascot towers Sydney.
castle hill...
macquarie park...
not just buildings...
didnt they screw up on a pylon for the metro out rousehill? had to move it...
lane cove tunnel collapse... i remember that one!
current rozelle SHTF....
ummm. oh yeah, the new "light rail" not interchanging with the old.
something about trains being too wide for the tracks?
give it a few more years as the current spate of crap starts showing its true integrity.
Couldnt see any plastic underneath either
That's because there was none
It’s a driveway doesn’t need it
Only required for slabs or indoor areas too stop ground moisture coming thru the concrete
I am not a tradesperson yet I tend to do the majority of jobs myself. Not because I like doing it but because I want it done properly & at a fair price.
aww yeah nah we'll do it later boss! yeah right after durry time!
Classic concreter 😂😂😂 I'm glad I'm in the industry. When my shed was getting built, i inspected it myself. My concreter was an absolute legend, membrane done properly, chaired up correctly with proper mesh overlap and a perfectly flat uniform finish fortunately. As were my steel erecting team, not one bolt missed and quality inspection also came out to ensure all was finished right
Mesh is lying flat on the ground . Shonks .
They pick it up when they are pouring to get the height
@mattroom4264 Sydney harbour Bridge is for sale if you are interested .
Bar chairs are least of your issues when it comes down to domestic concrete works. The domestic concrete industry has decreased dramatically over the last 10-15 years with inexperienced workmanship.
Wouldn't have been jag concreting by chance
Yes
There is ZERO accountability for these cowboys. I have a driveway that’s a yr old falling apart. Inspected by QBCC, defected yet nothing can be done if concreter does follow through
Thanks for all of your hard work. So many dodgy crooks out there. Well done mate.
I’m constantly shocked with how bad Australian trades are, I’m from uk and when I worked out there with people, I was constantly pulling my hair out. No pride in work just sneaky tradies trying to cash in on jobs. Real shame for customers.
Yeah, when you show up and some dude's talking your ear off about unimportant or "confusing" things that don't really matter, you know you've stumbled onto some gold. Can't tell you how many time's I've had some dude some up on me like that instantly knowing something's off. These dudes need to learn a little humility, coming up on you like that is basically announcing to the world they're up to some shady stuff. Reminds me of when I was a kid and I'd rush to the teachers so I could be the first one to get my story straight/out there.
No plastic membrane.... holy moly that is crazy.......
Its a driveway not a slab, its not required
@@duxmealux281it'd help the rebar they're just leaving on the bare ground, not rust :p
You must get a lot of hate from builders. I guess it comes with the job. All the best to you bro👍
In my 45 years of building I only came across 1 Concretor I could trust. Does anybody know hard it is to lift reinforcing steel up to the specified clearance with a load of concrete on it? Impossible.
Carpenter by trade here not that difficult at all look at the back of a concrete rake that hook is for that exact reason. U can flip it upside down and lever the mesh up
@@emde174 builder by trade here. I don’t believe you can get a consistent depth with a rake.
@@emde174and do you get the correct clearance?
Brilliant catching out these guys out, of course RDO mesh will sink if not supported
Why even bother putting mesh down in the first place if they are just going to pour it right onto the ground
good job blurring out his face lol
Nooon-compliant😂
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Next thing they do is disconnect their phones and trade under a different name.
What are the odds that one day, Site Inspections and ACA arrive at the same property. Cheers
I'll never engage a so called concreter again after they stuffed two slabs on me. I'll do the bloody job myself.
I’m a plumber, even for every tiny job we which is less than a meter cubed we use chairs, can’t believe these jokers
That's like 5 extra dollars mate they could be shoving in a the pokies
welcome to BUILDING - each trade blames the other
you need to be on site every day
these volume builders that have project managers drive around few times a week if that
mine only used to come out to site during the stage completion inspections, He made the funniest faces while he tried to figure out WTF the trades were even thinking when we pointed out the things theyd screwed up. whatever they saved hiring the cheapest guys they lost in the mental anguish i put them through.
Id call him from site and ask about a known issue, he'd tell me, "oh, i was there thismorning they have fixed that" while i was standing there looking at the unresolved issue with the next trade about to cover it up.
"but its dangerous for you to be on site" "why dont you put up the temp fencing that youve charged me for then?"
i told them im paying the mortgage, ill come here whenever i want.
Tradie Ol'mate... Just do your f**king job mate. Seriously how hard is it?
While bar chairs are standard protocol, the actual concept of having a piece of plastic, running 3/4 of the way through the slab, is nowhere near as strong as lifting the steel mesh and having nothing but concrete.
The Problem there though is ensuring the mesh is even off the ground, throughout the slab, hence why chairs are used.
Ultimately, having a solid base, correct thickness of concrete, good expansion cuts and vibration to avoid air gaps, are FAR more important then chairs.
But i love this guy because he dont miss a thing👍
I think he may have meant bar stools. They are stronger and easier to work with under a load.
@@Insideoutie If you have bar stools you probably should try prunes.
so how do you ensure uniform depth without chairs?
Chairs are better than no chairs
Correct, having chairs is not important, but having the steel reo sit on the bottom of the slab doing nothing is not ideal lol