Great films I was lucky to see BOB MAC in 1957 and lots of TT & Manx GPS.great days Honda six no sound like I have it as ring tone. still going to Road Racing in Ireland.when not out on Velo Venom.
I was there too as a 5 year old to watch my uncle Alan Trow with the rest of the family. I was too young to really appreciate it...I wish I could go now x
Surtees the only guy to win world championships on 2 wheels and 4, I did a few laps with him at Brands at an open practice day sometime in the 80's initially he was on his Vincent grey flash and I was on my TZ bedding in a new barrel and I could stay ahead of him but then he pulled in and re-appeared on a 500 Benelli then things got a little tougher, lol.
The cameraman must have been standing right next to Mick Woolett at 2:58 because there is a fantastic colour still by that cameraman of just that very moment involving the Dale BMW.
@@MrDorbel Oh Dear, Oh Dear Me..... It looks like the White Knights have followed me AAALLLLL the far away to the Classic Motorcycle Races! Don't you people have ANYTHING better to do? Mr. Paul Money... You are NOT on the money. Your stereotyping of Men in the past. Who go about their lives in groping women. And beating their wives. Is just as one dimensional as your pitiful existence If you have "guilt" issues of being a Man. You are GOING to have to dig deeper. FAR much deeper it what "forged" YOU as a man? You are obviously going to have to question YOUR teachers/ mentors in your life. Because it is quite obvious YOU should have questioned your leftist teachers in the schools/ university that YOU attended. Instead, YOU allowed THEM to make you into a Silly Little Soy Boy. Now... If you will be so kind to excuse yours truly. I shall be going BACK to the Classic Motorcycle Races! Where Motorcycles looked graceful and sounded sweet.. When Men DID NOT GET IN TROUBLE BEING MEN. And Soy Boys like YOU who had NO voice. And no one cared ANYTHING for. Oh yes... I all most forgot.. Do not try to respond.. I shall only ignore you.. YOU rightfully deserve that... Now take you, and your stupid Leftist comments elsewhere.. You don't belong here....
The different sound was because of the engine configuration. The MV Agusta was a four-cylinder, not unlike modern MotoGP and superbikes. The Nortons were traditional single cyclinder engines.
7:50 .... I'm miles ahead see ... so I ducks into the pub for sausages eggs and chips washed down wid a pint see and when I goes back outside me bikes gone .. nicked ... didn't see it did you? It's got a big number one on the front.
I think Snetterton was the last old style circuit. I went in 2015 ish, you could Park your car against the fence and sit on the roof watching the classics. Really close up, now the safety folk have pushed us all back. Sad but understandable.
I think it is a drum brake as there is an air scoop on the left side, could be a cooling disc often shrunk onto drums around then in an attempt to prevent brake fade.
@@redtobertshateshandles Sometimes she is a beast! But when she is purring and swinging along the country roads one knows exactly what craftsmanship realy meant. Cheers!
@@carlnapp8673 yep. I have owned XT500, DR500, XL600 and still have a TT600. All were road registered and fun on a winding old style road. When I win the lottery I will buy a Norton Inter.
Of all the creative an excited names i gave the TT in my head...Tourist Trophy was not one..but for ireland an the brits even they had to boat in as tourist....Timed Trials is what it actual is even though thats not its name tourist trials is actually it a little mondane toughest trials would probably be more appropriate...when a multi time champian opted out.....of competing......
Surtees was lapping at over 99mph in the 1958 Senior TT (99.98mph on the second lap). Top speed would be in the region of 140mph for GP bikes of the late 50s and early 60s.
It was worst after landing after the bridge- probably caused by oil in the sump surging and splashing up the cylinder bores - and the oil control rings not coping momentarily
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Change your handle as you are clearly UNeducated. The word is moniker, (meaning name or nickname), not Monica you dimwit. Can I suggest Uneducated a**eholecover as your moniker?
John Surtees a National treasure and international champion, world champion on bikes and cars, never to be repeated!
And Highest % of wins!
I am so pleased to find this footage as i was born in July 1958 . Going over for the centenary of the Manx GP in a few weeks ... can't wait !!!
Thank you for sharing this gift.
It's tempting to view these older races as quaint, but they are still fricking *moving* on those fast stretches.
Desmond D Woolf of Southern Rhodesia lost his life in this very race at Barregarrow
And doing it on tyres not much bigger than you'd find on a Mountain Bike bought from Halfords today !!
No one got more from their available power and tyre adhesion than this generation of riders!
as a school boy in london in 58 i listened to the race on a crystal set , brought back so many memories
Engines that sound as engines should. I was a few weeks old at the time. Great year.
I was there, watching from Signpost Corner. So Many names i remember and faces I recognise. Happy Days.
Would love to see more of these. All those beautiful Norton's in their element, what a sight and sound that would have been! Love it.
I was born in this year I loved the racing from a very young age, fantastic video.
Manx's, 7Rs and G50s. A golden age for sure.
Wonderful footage!
Es ist immer wieder super den "alten Sound" zuhören
Lovely sounds I am sure I could smell the CASTROL R if only 👃
Those ladies strolling along the pavement at Ginger Hall! No safety measures in those days.
A very nice film of an historical race. Enjoyable to view.
incredible footage!!
Interesting to see the two ladies walking along the pavement whilst the race was on ,near the start of the film.
Still averaging nearly 100 MPH. Amazing!
Great films I was lucky to see BOB MAC in 1957 and lots of TT & Manx GPS.great days Honda six no sound like I have it as ring tone. still going to Road Racing in Ireland.when not out on Velo Venom.
I was there too as a 5 year old to watch my uncle Alan Trow with the rest of the family. I was too young to really appreciate it...I wish I could go now x
Irish counry music
Wow So good to see, and so many familiar names we grew up hearing! *Manx Norton
Oz Jack Ahearn 🙏
Most enjoyable, good quality film. Thanx
Norton Manx, what a bike.
Just brilliant!
Gold!
Was that Murray's dad at 0:40? Great colour footage of the event. Derek Minter used to come to Lydden Hill for the Classic Bike club meetings.
Yes, that was Graham Walker, Murray's dad.
Correct Murray’s Dad
Surtees the only guy to win world championships on 2 wheels and 4, I did a few laps with him at Brands at an open practice day sometime in the 80's initially he was on his Vincent grey flash and I was on my TZ bedding in a new barrel and I could stay ahead of him but then he pulled in and re-appeared on a 500 Benelli then things got a little tougher, lol.
Muy bueno el video 👏👋
My father Doug Allen raced in 56/57:58 wonder if there is any footage he raced a Mondial in light weight.
Unfortunately we don't have any footage from those particular years.
Graham Walker @ 0:41 no doubt Murray's father by the looks
Wonderful! TFP
The cameraman must have been standing right next to Mick Woolett at 2:58 because there is a fantastic colour still by
that cameraman of just that very moment involving the Dale BMW.
I live on the island watching this film is still fantastic and little has changed
I can almost smell the Castrol R.
Back then... When motorcycles looked graceful and sounded sweet...
When Men did not get in trouble being Men.
Like beating their wives and groping women at work you mean? Ah yes, the good old days!
@@MrDorbel
Oh Dear, Oh Dear Me..... It looks like the White Knights have followed me AAALLLLL the far away to the Classic Motorcycle Races!
Don't you people have ANYTHING better to do?
Mr. Paul Money... You are NOT on the money. Your stereotyping of Men in the past. Who go about their lives in groping women. And beating their wives. Is just as one dimensional as your pitiful existence If you have "guilt" issues of being a Man. You are GOING to have to dig deeper. FAR much deeper it what "forged" YOU as a man?
You are obviously going to have to question
YOUR teachers/ mentors in your life. Because it is quite obvious YOU should have questioned your leftist teachers in the schools/ university that YOU attended.
Instead, YOU allowed THEM to make you into a Silly Little Soy Boy.
Now... If you will be so kind to excuse yours truly. I shall be going BACK to the Classic Motorcycle Races!
Where Motorcycles looked graceful and sounded sweet..
When Men DID NOT GET IN TROUBLE BEING MEN.
And Soy Boys like YOU who had NO voice.
And no one cared ANYTHING for.
Oh yes... I all most forgot..
Do not try to respond..
I shall only ignore you..
YOU rightfully deserve that...
Now take you, and your stupid Leftist comments elsewhere..
You don't belong here....
@@ENIGMAXII2112 But what does "When Men DID NOT GET IN TROUBLE BEING MEN." actually mean to you and what has it to do with motor cycle races?
John Surtees! My favourite rider after Hailwood!
Thank for the cool flashback im sorry he did say 192 mph right...the audio was fuzzy...
Didn't hear that...in terms of speed in the 1958 Senior, I would say the Surtees MV would be around the 165mph mark as a maximum.
Surtees 2 e 4 rodas magnífico!
Wow, from a time before the tee shirt had been invented......
splendid old chap
No “knees-down” in those days!
Here be giants!
Hi, I would love to share this, is it ok if i publish it on my channel, i will obviously give you credit, thanks for sharing
Smoking in the pits. The good old days. Proper racing eh?
What are the engine differences between the bikes sounding like ww2 aircraft and the bikes sounding very refined, almost like future motogp?
The different sound was because of the engine configuration. The MV Agusta was a four-cylinder, not unlike modern MotoGP and superbikes. The Nortons were traditional single cyclinder engines.
7:50 .... I'm miles ahead see ... so I ducks into the pub for sausages eggs and chips washed down wid a pint see and when I goes back outside me bikes gone .. nicked ... didn't see it did you? It's got a big number one on the front.
I think Snetterton was the last old style circuit. I went in 2015 ish, you could Park your car against the fence and sit on the roof watching the classics. Really close up, now the safety folk have pushed us all back. Sad but understandable.
Looks like a disc brake on a Beemer at 3.01??
I think it is a drum brake as there is an air scoop on the left side, could be a cooling disc often shrunk onto drums around then in an attempt to prevent brake fade.
Great!
And there is LUCAS The Prince of Darkness
Superb, halcyon days. . never to return. .10/10 top draw. . The Norton,s ALL behind J Surtees (MV!!) Poor Norton. . Demise recently. .Again. . .
Actually Surtees said he could've won a World Champ kinship on a Norton,but they wouldn't pay him. Hence him going to MV.
I think nowadays we can't imagine someone's pride who owned a KTT or a Manx at the time.
Unless you rode one and realised that a 500 single is still a fun motorcycle which will do 100mph.
@@redtobertshateshandles
I know, I ride a Venom.
@@carlnapp8673 when I was an apprentice I asked my mechanic what his dream bike was. A Venom.
@@redtobertshateshandles Sometimes she is a beast!
But when she is purring and swinging along the country roads one knows exactly what craftsmanship realy meant.
Cheers!
@@carlnapp8673 yep. I have owned XT500, DR500, XL600 and still have a TT600. All were road registered and fun on a winding old style road. When I win the lottery I will buy a Norton Inter.
And all the chaps watching and the mechanics will all be wearing ties, and polished shoes.
Unlike today!
Of all the creative an excited names i gave the TT in my head...Tourist Trophy was not one..but for ireland an the brits even they had to boat in as tourist....Timed Trials is what it actual is even though thats not its name tourist trials is actually it a little mondane toughest trials would probably be more appropriate...when a multi time champian opted out.....of competing......
Topspeed?
Surtees was lapping at over 99mph in the 1958 Senior TT (99.98mph on the second lap). Top speed would be in the region of 140mph for GP bikes of the late 50s and early 60s.
National Motor Museum👍😊
whish i could have been there.
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In 2020 I'd sign a driver for F1 who came from motorcycle 🏁 racing before one from karting.
Blimey,they were so posh in them days,they used to race in a suit and tie ! ha ha
is this motorcycle or ?
MVs seem to be burning some oil, lots of blue smoke !!
Strange that his only happened after the ballaugh jump.
Two stroke MV
It was worst after landing after the bridge- probably caused by oil in the sump surging and splashing up the cylinder bores - and the oil control rings not coping momentarily
Nah, that was so you could smell the "R"!
@@derf9465 My arse!
Dustbins for fairings
Norton was loosing then 😂
Stupid comment!
Anjir cepet juga gp jaman dulu
MV sound like a modern superbike almost
Why does the National Motor museum have to ruin a great historical film by splattering their Monica all over it.
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Change your handle as you are clearly UNeducated. The word is moniker, (meaning name or nickname), not Monica you dimwit. Can I suggest Uneducated a**eholecover as your moniker?
WHY play the bloody silly out of place music.
whish i could have been there.
So do I!
Cheers
whish i could have been there.