The first thing I’d do is ask the DM if fighting other players is allowed, then I’d wait for a particularly difficult to navigate dungeon to happen by and well....i’ll leave the rest to imagination.
@@HypercomboProduction dont know for megamind but Kazuma at least redeems himself by yearning for true gender equality by dropkicking women. So at the very least he isnt a simp
My solution: make every female NPC a succubi. Give him exactly what he wants- but every time he does the deed, he permanently loses a random stat point to the succubus.
@@goncalocarneiro3043 You do realize HE controls whether it happens once or not, right? You don't have to make *every* NPC a succubi either, you can tone it down to a D6 roll. Roll a nat 1 and it was a succibi.
@@rockspoon6528 Come on, not one in six women the party meet is a succubus! What the heck are those odds? Are one in ten people doppelgangers? It's the same deal with NPC traitors, if one in six NPCs betray the party, we ain't playing D&D, we playin' Among Us. Tone is down to never roll a die, just make the campaign good. Of course, if you have a grimdark setting in which people are just evil and fiends are common sure, 1d6, but not the average campaign! Geez!
True Enough. There Would Be Room For Things Like Character Growth Where He Learns That He Can't Just Hit On Everyone Or The Group Possibly Learns WHY He Hits On Everyone. That,Or It's Played For Laughs Like Brock From Pokemon (And Like Brock From Pokemon,One Player Has The Job Of Dragging Him Away From The Poor NPC).
Hah... Yeah... I had a swashbuckler that wanted a harem because he wanted to be in charge of people after having a childhood where he was kicked around by the women of his tribe. He did end up getting a harem... but he also learned that maybe his original goals were awful, and that these are all people worthy of protection and affection, not trophies. So he stopped trying to win every sort of NPC that came along and became far more focused on protecting his family and kingdom. Yes, his family ended up being much larger than most around him (and he definitely got side-eyed by everyone because he was a gnoll and the women (and men) he went for decidedly weren't), but they made him a better person in the end. (Also gave us as players several moments of hilarity at his expense.)
Oh man that would have been awesome. I had a player like this once and he voluntarily split himself from the party to fuck a succubus and he died crying.
"hey man, if we end up fighting then there is a good chance we are both going to face unnecessary casualties. I don't want to kill anyone, you don't want your men to die so how about we just go our separate ways and forget we ever talked"
You know, Brock from Pokemon is a funny character because he tries and never suceeds, and it is all lighthearted. Now imagine if Brock got salty and resentful each time his white knighting failed, which is every episode? HMMMMMMM. Now worst, imagine he got salty at the same character every single episode and the resentment grew, like, if he did it to another reacurring character like Misty and what not. Not. Funny. Anymore.
@@rozu7772 The idea is still the same: a long road of failed attempts of romance but none of the drama. He wants to be seen as a girl's knight in shining armor, especially for the Officer Jenny and Nurse Joy characters, and was often clueless the woman wasn't interested, but *never* pushy or prioritized her in expense of everyone else. He even backed off when he realizes they already have boyfriends or are married. This guy? He's not Brock, just a egoistic.
Aka: The Real Reason He Left. Also Fun Fact: According To A Pokemon Novel Written By One Of The Show's Writers (And Only Ever Released In Japan),Brock's Flirting Is A Direct Result Of His Mother Leaving His Family And Him Being Left To Take Care Of His Many Siblings. That's Why All The Women He Hits On Are Older Women Like The Joys Or The Jennys: He's Basically Looking For A New Mother,But It Translates To Wanting To Date Them.
I am honestly sad that the princess didn’t put him in his place with a simple “You aren’t ever going to get into my pants, let alone interest me in a romantic way” speech.
On a side note, I find it stupendous astounding that people will just as easily dish out the word simp if you are just being nice and respectful to the opposite sex vs actively wooing her. But yeah animekun was a try hard white knighting simp.
0:19 That's not a harem anime protagonist. A harem anime protagonist has the personality of a potato, HATES that he's surrounded by women who JUST. WON'T. LEAVE. HIM. ALONE. but at the same time is too much of a nice guy to hurt their feelings so can't man up to reject any of them! This is Johnny Bravo when written poorly.
i mean it would explain alot..... Kirito=Sword Art Online=Isekai harem anime Tenshi=Angel=prolly thought he was god gift to women or summtin Issei=High School DxD=Another Harem anime about demons/angels and such. and a damn good one at that one of my faves, however i did not turn into a psychotic white knight beta from watching it
Kirito? KIRITO? Well, I get where that player came from! The only thing is, Kirito from SAO is... well, not oblivious to those interested in him, but only has eyes for one!
This kind of story could be a potential warning to me. I'm currently playing a Pitborn Tiefling Paladin of Sarenrae named Baros in a Curse of the Crimson Throne campaign. Baros is descended from a succubus, and as such has an... effect on some women (and a few men) due to his inhuman beauty. There is a whole story as to why that is the case, but in the end, the reason I'm trying to roleplay such a character is because it's outside my usual comfort zone. But even then, I don't try and go the route of the harem anime protagonist. Baros is not someone who would cheat on his girlfriend. He commits to a single relationship at a time. He just has had a lot of romantic relationships since they have all fallen apart for one reason or another. In fact, that's more or less his primary character goal. To find a woman who wants to be his wife and to start a family.
This is subverting expectations. A part-succubus in a charisma class? But...it's a Paladin. One who wants to be loyal. Sounds like a good, fun, interesting character to me
That is a simple goal, and unfortunately one of the hardest to achieve, especially for some people (hi). Awesome backstory, hope Baros doesn't die and he can have his happy ending :D
@Rubedo Alberti @SantiMar09 Yeeeaaahhh, I'm only getting into D&D/Pathfinder due to some of my friends who have had some experience with them and one of them's trying to plan a Pathfinder for us. Of course it's difficult in our current times but I would like to get into it sometime
I'm used to playing as more serious, "group dad" or the "goodest boi" type characters in my games, but I've relatively recently decided to play as a more free spirited and sexually active type character for the first time I watch these videos to get some idea of how NOT to play these types of character.
Now i would've introduced some sort of shapeshifter villain rogue who takes the form of a female npc, gone along with the paladin until we're alone then and attack him
@@jamesduncan4365 That could work but personally I like the idea of that player being chased by an overprotective dad who also influence and the ensuing roleplay by the players since it could possibly jeopardize the party's mission in the town. A good DM could make an entire story out of the incident like they get punished by doing a job where they find a plot hook that leads to be conspiracy or something.
See, here's the thing, being the anime protagonist is fine in my opinion as long as it's not taking away from people's fun. The moment it does, that's when communication needs to start and things need to be toned down.
well an anime protagonist needs to actually do things to BE the protagonist take for exsample the NPC in my D&D XCOM game, Greg, guy when we met him for the first time was actual cannon fodder, just some NPC that could not arc a grenade launcher now hes a cyborg, a grand soldier and can make friends with just about anyone, and its only been like... 5 missions (we are even thinking of changing him from an NPC to a homebrew class called The Lord, a class that gets more powerful the more bonds of friendship he has)
@@Sawtooth44 ok that's pretty awesome. That class needs to say something kinda cringy to activate any abilities tho. Might I suggest "I fight for my friends" wholesome but cringe inducing all the same
@@Sawtooth44 I kinda have to disagree. Look at KonoSuba, the main character was a basic as fuck scrub, with his only high stat being luck (and not high enough to be op), then he met a guy who just reeked of main character syndrome. Handsome, heroic, beautiful women following him around, magic sword that only he can use etc etc. He tried to save the goddess, got his sword stolen by sheer luck and knocked out, then had to get a normal job to save up enough gold to buy it back, instead of going after the demon king. So you can definetly have an anime main character in a dnd game, just lamplight it as a funny trope. He's someone who you'd think should be the main character, but is constantly shown up by others. Like maybe he was issekai'd into the world to defeat the demon king, only to discover the demon king died of a heart attack the next day, or there was a mix up and he was never supposed to be issekai'd there, and so he thinks he's got a grand destiny, when he really doesn't. Or he's just a village boy who read too many novels about heroes, and set out to find his destiny, but turns out there was no big bad that needed defeating, so he was stuck doing wolf and rat killing quests. Or maybe do what south park did, have rumours of the chosen one, and have the character think it's him, only to discover nope, it was that generic as fuck npc all along. Mintberry Crunch, the inn keeper you met during the most boring section of the campaign
@@Trojianmaru there is a difference between a protagonist and a hero, a hero is the one that saves the day, the protagonist is the one that upsets the status quo a protagonist can be a hero but a hero is not always a protagonist alot of what you have said is for the backstory of a hero or just a badly written character (the prophet at the end) guy in konosuba may give off generic anime hero vibes but we dont even remember there name and the series is a satire, its ment to make fun at the tropes, better exsample is Goblin Slayer we see every so often clips of the hero team fighting the Demon King but thats just what heroes do, hell we could replace there clips with generic issekai and it wont make much of a difference, meanwhile we have the protagonist fighting goblins even though hes good enough to start fighting harder things, but we watch the goblin slayer because between the 2 groups, hes interesting and hes making waves and upsets what normal adventurers do this is also a pretty good idea on what happens in Fanfiction crossovers, a story can only have 1 protagonist and the protagonist is the one thats upsetting the status quo, they screw with the timeline by being there and the story changes for exsample Man off the Moon we crossover Mass Effect and Fate/Extella, we could watch Shepard and every so often hear what Nameless is doing but we have basically already seen how that goes or we could watch Nameless and see how the world and Shepard reacts to him
Harem protags generally either don't want a harem or don't know their crushes feel the same about them. It's not common for a harem protag to be actively seeking a harem, and they generally get rejected left right and center when they do.
Shippers are probably the worst in any fandom. Doesn't matter if it's a two men, two women, a man and a woman, or two constructs that are vaguely humanoid. They will make relationships that don't even exist.
@@zacharygadzinski3147 This is true and it gets really, really uncomfortable when you realize how bad some of the power dynamics in a lot/ majority of the ships is.
I like to think there are many forms of love, Romance being just one of them. Friendship is another example. So is family loyalty. Parents love their children. The list goes on. There's also intensity of feeling to consider. One might be attracted to someone but not enough to pursue more than friendship. Point is you're right and I'm just expanding on your idea a bit.
Communication is key. I've played a campaign where everyone in the party was in the harem of the leader of said party. And it worked fine. Not everyone woman or man has to be wooed.
Let me prefece this with I am the sole female player in an otherwise all male group. I was running a male PC in an otherwise all female party. One of the players joked to me "Your Harem awaits" Jack only had eyes for the female bard Sparrow. As for the others One was a lesbian One was a cat One was just a friend.
I was a rogue weeb once... but it was early 90s and i wanted to be Rick Hunter as a mecha pilot or Parn the free knight. Harems weren't the focus, it was about adventure & personal growth.
At first I thought the paladin’s player was just joking around and wanted to go a different direction with his character (since paladins are usually unproblematic and like to help everyone). But when the player got angry because the bard wouldn’t tell his character who the regal NPC was, I realized that this is no joke.
Or the DM could be a little cruel and introduce a Beautiful, gentle, graceful, sweet healer Princess with big eyes and bright pink or blue coloured hair in long pigtails (basically an almost perfect angel of a girl). She's on a quest to find half of a lost artefact for her Goddess, so she can return it home and prove she's finally ready to marry and take the throne. He spends half the campaign trying to woo her but she always ignores it, avoids him or simply changes the subject, as she was taught nobles manners and can't just tell him sod off. Then halfway through the campaign a good looking, tall, powerful, muscular female fighter turns up and is oddly VERY protective of the Princess and annoyed with this guy. It's revealed she is the Princesses secret Fiancee, they are both madly in love and she has already retrieved her half of the artefact. Then he has to put up with not one but two women in the party ignoring him and happily making eyes at each other.
Depends if he knew out of game that she was evil or not. If he knew, he'd suddenly start being evil himself for no reason, and just start doing random evil things like kicking puppies, stabbing npcs and being a dick to the rest of the party. Even if his character was the holiest, nicest simp before that. If he didn't know she was evil until she turned against the party, he'd side with her against the party, no matter what the circumstances were, then get pissed at the other players if they managed to kill him or the npc (while saying "it's just a game, don't get so salty" if he managed to kill any of them)
This was clearly the DM's fault. He's the one that described the princess as a young, attractive woman. If he would have only described her as homely or ugly, the paladin wouldn't have taken an interest in her. LOL. j/k. That paladin really needed to play more in-character and not get so upset by things not going his way.
Holy crap I think I came across that guy it was a couple of days ago I was part of a campaign where I was playing as my female kobold bard and the guy who was trying to seduce me had both pictures on his roll20 and Discord with an anime character can't remember which one he tried to seduce me several times but I keep telling him that my character didn't swing that way then he got so upset that I was turning him down so he contacted the DM and convinced him to kick me out of the campaign today I have no idea why I just Shrugged and now I'm looking for a new one.
If the DM kicked you out over some bullshit like that it was not a very good game to begin with. You are better off not being part of something like that. Hope your next game is better.
But the older guy wasn’t even interested in the princess. The paladin just thought he was his god’s gift to females. I wish some of the girls would’ve smacked him around til he knocked it off. I can’t stand unwanted white knights.
Except this isn't really a case of that. The age difference is just under 20 years. If it was that the Wizard was 55 or so I would say he has a point but it isn't.
@@andyknightwarden9746 i know the origin of your terminology but describing December as the man in the relationship has me imagining May as the pokemon character and it's mildly amusing.
This reminds me of several simps that turned really scary in my life. Ladies, if you aren't eighteen yet I want you to know. The moment you are considered legal and sometimes even before, sexual harassment under the guise of being the "nice guy" will happen. Know that they are not nice guys and that some will go as far as to try and ruin your life if you reject them, be careful.
@Angelo Aitken I would fault it more to lacking maturity. Not everyone grows up at the same time. Sometimes it takes a while for someone to develop the ability to think beyond themselves, when considering others.
@Angelo Aitken women tend to favor a different route than the white knight approach. Both genders have their own unique method of manipulating each other and both are equally dangerous and damaging when rejected.
@Angelo Aitken I'm simply speaking from my own experience, especially considering the naivety I once had considering situations I was in. They seemed nice, friendly, harmless, and considerate. The moment I told them no though, everything changed and they showed me just how dangerous they actually were. I've never experienced sexual harassment from a female so I can't speak for the men who have suffered so.
@@evangrescol7772 a key example is that my newest character is inspired by Wiz and Vanir from konosuba where he is a craftsman that makes cursed items (effects are up to RNGsus) and sells them to people while halfway enjoying the thrill of the con. Only catch is that he kinda hates himself for not being able to make good shit (magically enhanced items/weapons). So he takes garbage items he thinks he can use to make better stuff, sells it to unsuspecting folks, then runs before they can catch him as a way to make money.
For me, it's all about how self-aware the player is. If someone wants to play the lecherous bard or rogue, and it's a character flaw they roleplay while the player knows they're being THE WORST, that's one thing. If the player themselves thinks they are always the main character and can't understand that this isn't time to be a Mary Sue, it's a disaster. They are part of a team and not the main character. Respect what you roll and respect the team and DM.
This reminded me of my shining moment as a fighter. Party of 3. Me: Human Fighter, Neutral Good. Human Thief, I steal absolutely everything and leave y'all holding the bag. Human Paladin of Prayer Time, Chaotic Useless. We're in an old castle going up one of the smaller keeps. We enter a room on the 4th level, small round room. 3 chests with a iron statue standing behind each chest. You see where this is going. Our thief didn't care. Opened one of the chests. Door closes magically and we can't open it. Iron "Statues" Golems come to life. I begin fighting them. Thief begins trying to find a way to open door. Paladin sits down by thief, takes out lyre, plays lyre while singing a prayer to his god. I'm barely holding my own against 3 iron golems by giving up ground so they can't flank or get behind me. Me: Can I get some help here! Paladin: I'm praying harder! Me: Thanks a lot! I was moving away from my party and the golems were following me, just me. I hoped that my party would take the golden opportunity at a rear attack. Nope. Instead they get the door open, momentarily, and use that opportunity to save their own skins. Door shuts again. And I'm about to be curb stomped by 3 iron golems. Fortunately the DM is kind and they don't use their breath attack. I see a window. Not an arrow loop. An actual open several feet tall, a couple feet wide window. (It had been in the description, but I just remembered it and thought up a plan.) I made my way there and next round won initiative by a wide margin. Back to the window I crouched down and waited for the golems to rush me. When they did I lunged forward rolling under the middle golem, between his legs. This used my first attack. Then used my second attack. Shoved him from behind as hard as I could (18/90 something STR) and won thanks to the DM rolling a one on the golems contest roll. DM determined my plan worked. The now off balance, stumbling, arms flailing golem caught the other two as he broke thru the weak point of the wall and they all fell to the ground. And then the door opened.
While I have my expectations, I generally don't have a high opinion of the Harmen Genre anyway since it's often abused by narcs and egoists who don't understand that males and females can be just friends without the drama of romance. This is why a lot of people I played D&D with tend to see me do this 🤦♀️when I realize there's a guy flirting with every female NPC he sees. My humor for it has it's limits and I wouldn't like being in a session with this guy since I'd be throwing it in his face that I'm not a Tsundere love interest.
Okay this might be because i've heard so many stories worst than this, but besides being annoying, he didn't like "RP rape" a player or NPC or killed the bard to get the princess, unless it's in the details we don't have. Definitely a tame anime mc.
9:20 "Unless he was referring to other players, he was referring to me" Nooooooo, if he wasn't referring to anyone else then it has to be me! what a FUCKING SHOKNAOJDKN
I also had a game with a player who wanted to build a Harem out of EVERY NPC woman we came across. His Wizard and my Paladin nearly butt heads when he found out my character had a daughter and I requested she not be targeted as another notch in his belt
Little harsh, but I see where you're coming from. Based on the fact that the character had multiple NPC "girlfriends" the DM clearly had no issues indulging the Paladin character, probably just as long as it made sense. Which, for the princess, it clearly did not.
If he was just playing a character that would be one thing, characters with blatant flaws lead to interesting stories and plots or can just be a thing to laugh at with the party. (Unexpectables while he doesn’t have a harem Panic does swoon both men and women alike and does it without breaking character or complaing with two Npcs get together with each other instead of him)
As a DM, I'd plant a variety of NPCs specifically to "get" that paladin. Depending on how bad he was in person, it could be something as simple as the perfect woman who returns his affections, forcing him to deal with a relationship that doesn't tolerate a wandering eye. Or, hell, a dragon moonlighting as a barmaid for fun who is VERY offended by his advances and kicks his ass across several counties. But any action I took there would be only if my players expressed discomfort, because I do tend to leave them to themselves for RP as much as I can. Honestly, I'm more upset at a healer-character not being a fucking responsible healer. I'M SCALING COMBAT OVER HERE EXPECTING THE HEALER TO HEAL, DUMBASS. So yeah. As a player....... *cackles evily* So here's the thing, I play a Swords bard. A tall, mysterious, lovely, FEMALE bard. Who is FLAMIGLY bisexual with a jaw-dropping persuasion score. If I was playing with a little bitch of a white knight like that, I'd steal ALL the women from him. I'd sex up the ones down for it, and take the super straight ones out for brunch and become their BFF and tell them all the reasons they totally deserve better than that little twerp. I would also use my feat, By Popular Demand, WAY more than necessary to engender the good will to pull this all off. And if the paladin got upset with me stealing women from him, just innocently go, "Oh, well, you were doing it so much, I thought a little competition would be fun. I'm sorry, do you need me to go easy on you? Oh, was that insensitive of me? You just seem a little tense, maybe you need to get laid.. Ooooo, right, you can't, sorry!" Or something similarly snarky. Probably set him up for the mental left hook of my bard having several serious girlfriends, and then an aside, "My husband would LOVE this!" because my bard is happily married and polyamorous about it, and that tends to melt what little is between the ears of white knights. Basically, as a DM, I'd let my players handle it however they chose, would prioritize the group dynamic in any dealings, and would do my best, if asked, to humble any main-characterism. As a player, yeah no all bets are off, I'ma fuck with this bitch until he either snaps and leaves, or breaks down and admits that this shit is funny.
The words 'jealous' and 'Harem Anime Protagonist' dont really go together. Typically, harem protags dont even realize they have a harem until its pointed out to them and sometimes not even then. Yep, not much like a HAP at all then. Again, they typically just act the same to everyone and dont even notice the gaggle of waifus trailing behind them as more than friends and companions. This Paladin sounds more like the asshole rival than anything.
That's just the most common kind, though. Someone like Rance from the Rance games, or Keyaru from Redo of Healer, are basically evil dudes who go out and take what they want by force.
Damn, im not gonna lie tho, as that bard, I would have called out to and waited to jump *with* the paladin rather than beelining it, despite the player's odd behavior. Or used some kind of spell, but I don't know what was in his repertoire and sometimes the game is stressful, making decisions split second.
My first sorceror was a high charisma guy who wanted to attain godhood. His first plan was to breed himself followers (he was 16 yrs old). He did seduce several women, but only got one pregnant. He realized this plan wouldn't work and stopped seducing every chance he got. Of course, the DM assumed every time I asked who was around (ex: in a tavern, "who do I see around me?") I was asking for women. It got to the point I would say, "I need directions, who around me can I ask?" or something along these lines. Still, the DM tried to curb my character's libido by forcing my character to marry the dwarf woman I got pregnant. That was fine by me, but he took it a bit far. If you know the Night Angel books, he stole an idea from them (magic wedding rings). He was new to DM'ing and I was still newish to DnD. There was some friction there (I felt targeted). In the end, it worked out. I set up a shop in the capital of one of the kingdoms, and she ran the shop while I adventured. It gave me a small but steady stream of gold. The campaigned ended before he could accomplish his goal (got derailed and we had to start fresh with a new campaign),
Currently in a campaign with a bard played similarly to this one. In it to earn coin, perfect his music and partake in adventures to sing about. Both DM and party are always wondering why I'm not attempting to get in the pants of every female npc or take advances on the obviously attractive female part member. One of them even said to me "You're not playing your class right, how disappointing." Simply told him off that just because I play a bard doesn't mean I must horn dog it and bang everything that walks on two legs. The question should be why everyone wanted my bard to jump on every female npc and not their own player characters, equal opportunities all around. On one occasion they and the DM called me a simp because I healed the female pcs; fyi, my bard is in a 1v1 with enemy npc, everyone spread out, only people in line of sight was female pcs who use range weapons, male pcs rushed ahead around corner of a cave...simp for dishing out a healing word in this situation? Wow..
Playing devil’s advocate I would feel kinda salty if the bard had abandoned me to. Had I been the bard and the paladin was someone I liked I probably would have waited to make sure the paladin made it to safety to. But hindsight is 20/20 and i don’t have the full picture from this story. That name at the end did make me cringe
I don’t think there’s much a bard could do seeing how the giant statues basically killed the Paladin after a few hits. So either they both stayed and died or he uses his initiative to run. It was just the unfortunate case of bad rolls, Paladin got poor initiative combined with statues get a crit. Not much anyone could do there.
Probably. Just seems like maybe waiting on the edge to maybe use a clutch healing word to dive over the edge at the beginning of his next turn would have been doable but maybe not. Idk.
Okay, this one was spectacular. I like Isekai enough in manga and videogames, heck other fiction as well, but trying to chase any skirt under the sun in a trpg with multiple other players involved? Yeah, that's simply not done, it raises my suspicions on the age of the douche-adin too how he ragequit.
I'm currently two sessions into a new campaign and I'm pretty sure I've already begun a slowly growing romance with our party Druid. I didn't even plan for it to happen, but I'm on board with it if that's what winds up happening.
I have only had one IC romance with an NPC, and it was when my human fighter after serving for and helping a small barbarian kingdom ended up married to the princess turned queen. It was also the retirement of my character at that point as well as she felt her duty was now to the queen and the kingdom itself.
How to handle players like the paladin: Understand their psyche. Typically the harem protagonist behavior is about power, control and posession. You can easily counteract with a promiscuous and flirty Tiefling barmaid. Have her go along with the flirting (go as far as you want), but the next time the player visits, she's flirting with someone else (or more depending on how much you want to rub it into their face). Should the player decide to confront her/throw a tantrum, she makes it clear that what she does with consenting adults is her business and her business alone.
Kirito...tenshi Issei....really as in Kirito (SAO) Tenshi from Tenshi Muyo and Issei from Highschool DxD. so much for D&D originality. Also he lost the name sake...kirito never quits, Tenshi is a hard working and honest "man" and Issei is very innocent and gullable but super honest....not some slob simp that just wants waifus. Edit: actually i would have given that kirito tenshi issei guy props if he calmed down...thinked for a day or two and then went to the group and ask to be evaluated instead of running away with a tail behind its legs.
I am honestly not surprised he acted like the main character of an anime, considering he named his character Kirito. Back in season one of Sword Art Online, Kirito (who I'm willing to bet the Paladin's character is named after) was a TOTAL Mary Sue.
I'd have loved to run my Goblin Bard Pynt with that paladin. Pynt isn't the "chase every skirt he sees" kind of bard, but instead is a bit more of a rockstar. He performs at taverns, and my DM decides if he gets any groupies based on his performance check, which is pretty solid thanks to expertise. I bet that paladin would be frothing at the mouth after a couple towns.
Long rolling green hills. A party running for it from a chasing dragon. The gnome illusionist looks back to see the dragon just coming over a hill close to someone house atop a hill. The gnome puts out his hand and looks at the house (a mile back) through the space between his finger and thumb. He picks up the far away house between his finger and thumb and drops it on the dragon
Yeah... If I was a dungeon master and I had a player like this I would consider pulling your princess is in another castle line on him... I don't mind having a romantic story here in there in dnd but I really get annoyed when a player trys to f everything with 2 legs... Or 4 legs... Or with any sort of sexuality at all... You know unless it's played off as funny... Then I'd let it go...
I’ve never had an issue like this. But our characters (with a group I played with) had a small design in them that if someone was uncertain about something someone else did, a discussion would be had, such as if we had to choose between saving one PCs family or rescue another’s Wife or some shit. And we would weigh the options and the consequence of the choice and once we were all ok with the outcome we chose. Bit of a rant, but long story short our characters had a “hey I’m not so sure about something can we talk?” Or “hey I have a problem with you, let’s work it out” either way we always find a way to get back to being allies instead of frenemies.
Aw, so classic Harem Portage: Pathetic as all can be. I played a horn dog before, several in fact, but they toed a line (no means no, hates abusive situations, will not force an issue, does not hit on teammates etcetera). They This guy, not one of them. My Rogue (who is self-aware that he has as much game as Johny Brovo) would tell him to quit it. The only time I think this became a real propblem in my 15 odd years of gaming...the DM broke the fourth wall and told a different player if they kept this kind of behavior up, he would have to kill the charecter as it would make the mission fail. He behaved from then on.
I mean most show that devastation in their voices when something goes wrong or they die, it's just a normal reaction, it's whether they start kicking off about it. In a way I can understand his annoyance, but sometimes you just gotta brush it off, though it's known for dm's to specifically have a favourite player etc
I had one PC in a Curse of Strahd party get so close to taking over the entire Sword Coast just because he white knighted my character who was the heir to Neverwinter. Basically my friends and I were playing Curse of Strahd. About halfway through the campaign we lost two of our fighters due to real life stuff going on that summer and had two others join the party to help. Both of the new PC's were vampires who were connected to Strahd: Alexander Von Roeyen (Zarovich) and his friend Evelyn Sunstar. (Fun fact: Both Alexander and Evelyn were based off Alucard and Saris Victoria from Helsing Ultimate.) My character, Zelda Alagondar, welcomed these PC's to the party but was obviously skeptical given their nature and relation to Strahd. You see, Alexander was Strahd and Sergei's younger brother which made Zelda think that Alexander was just a spy or userper of Strahd. After a few months of adventhuring Zelda and Alexander started getting to know each other and came up with a plan to overthrow Strahd and take over Barovia. What started as a political coup turned into a wholesome romance between the prince of Barovia and the princess and heir of Neverwinter. By the time Strahd was getting ready to take over the Sword Coast, Alexander and Zelda were planning on getting married and joining the kingdoms, meaning that if Alexander thought about what he was doing he could have taken over both the Domains of Dread and the Sword Coast fairely easily all by white knighting a princess.
in my old pathfinder campaign like 8 years ago my paladin was also a bit of a casanova but even he settled down before he died cause a troll one shotted him
This is unrelated aside from Bard characters avoiding romance: I made a special kind of Bard background: The Storyteller. A traveler who simply tells fairy tales and/or writes plays. Essentially, upping the “Author” aspect and lowering the Music part. Now, of course, most of the audiences would be children, so I asked a friend of mine who DMs a game of being good with children counts as being proficient in animal handling. The guy said yes. Thus began the story of James Dunwich, the exiled Noble who became the local storyman
I had to share this. But fair warning, though, it's a long one. I was a player in a Lord of the Rings campaign taking place in the second age. I was playing a Ñoldor (Deep Elf) Battlemage who's companions were an elder werewolf Barbarian (yes they existed in the Tolkien universe), human fighter 1 (the problem player), human fighter 2 (The min-maxing, item/weapon hoarding power player who only appears near the end of this tale), a wood elf ranger and a six foot naked barbarian skin-changer bear lady. We started in a dungeon locked inside our rooms with minimum weapons and equipment at level 1. We were also asked to describe our characters and backstories. My description of my appearance was brief since it was easy to imagine. My elf being 6'2", pale skin green eyes and black hair with a backstory that tied him to Tolkien's lore of the Ñoldor. Naturally, Fighter 1 was the only one who was indifferent about the appearance and backstory of his character. But five character descriptions were enough to get the cogs of our imaginations spinning. So we moved on. Our tasks had been laid before us. Solve our puzzles, get out, find the nearest town and rest. Everyone had taken a decent amount of time to solve their puzzles and we were spread throughout the dungeon until one of us found the other. I was found by a pirate who saw me on the dungeon floor after I managed to crawl out of piranha-infested waters and attempt to catch my breath. One by one we began to find each other and piece the dungeon together. We fashioned a map out of materials we found in our rooms, but unbeknownst to our characters, Fighter 1 had not been found. So the DM cuts to him. Now personally, I should've seen this guy's crap coming from a mile away 'cause I knew him personally. He was an "I live in the moment" kind of guy, and it showed in how he played. Doing stupid things to endanger himself and the party with no regard for consequences. He was also the kind of guy who would not try to think things through, and when people would try to lead him to a logical conclusion, he would just laugh and say, "I don't even give a fuck." like some petulant teenager. Keep in mind that this is a 23 year old man who's character alignment is "chaotic good". He walks into a dungeon room where there is a Drow hanging upside-down from the ceiling with a metal box on his face masking him and blinding him. He was bound by his ankles with his wrists bound at his waist. The key was visible to his player after he rolled a natural twenty for investigation. But instead of just helping the guy out he grabbed the key, threw it across the dark room, kicked the Drow's locked head as hard as he could then ran out of the room giggling out of character. The most annoying laugh I've ever heard. Like a dolphin high on meds. Everyone was quiet except him. He thought it was hilarious. But we ignored it and continued on. We had a few encounters in the dungeon and ended up having to save the pirate who ended up diving into the water to head towards the treasure chest he entered the cave to retrieve. Pirahna's literally took chunks out of him, and I tried to throw the 20 foot fishing net I found in my room at him but failed the strength check. The elder werewolf undid the tangled net then dominated the strength check after transforming into an 8.5 foot werewolf with silver fur, Our party was nothing short of surprised to see such a display. The pirate's cries soon caught our attention once again, forcing us to engage. Seeing that the pirate was too weak to stay afloat, I dove in after him. At that moment, a goblin DMPC dove into the water after me and began helping me pull him out. Mind you, the entire time this was going on, Fighter 1 just sat there on his phone and continued to contribute next to nothing to the adventure even after the fact. After we were back on land, we were all confused to see a werewolf PC and a goblin DMPC who could speak broken common being friendly as beings of these types were usually hostile. The werewolf transformed into his human form and the goblin asked if we were lost before offering to help us find our way out as long as we freed his friend. We were lead to a room where the room had been darkened by magical means. Fighter 1 sprinted through that room and the next, passing both dex saves before coming upon an armory, leaving the party behind to deal with whatever attacked him. Halfway through the first room, the pirate was sucked into the darkness and devoured. We quickly spread out across the walls of the room and felt around till we found a door. The door to the armory was open so the party easily caught up. But not before fighter 1 taken the best armor and weapons in the armory. After grabbing what useful loot was left, the goblin lead us to a wall of rocks in the next room where we heard bear sounds on the other side. He told us that a strong cage door kept the beast on the other side within. We all pitched in to help, but fighter 1 was preoccupied with searching for more "special weapons" in the armory. Once the rocks were thrown away, the goblin jumped onto what seemed to be a large humanoid creature. Enter naked beefy barbarian skin-changer. Confused, at having heard bear sounds from before, we asked where they could've gone. Ignoring the fact that there was a hulking naked barbarian in front of us. She explained her lineage and thanked us for finding her friend. The goblin opened the cage door at the end of the hall, not wanting to go back the previous way. We stepped into a dark room, treading carefully as we looked around. Suddenly the braziers in the room lit up and all we see are 3 Skeletal Wargs and 2 Great Skeletons charging at us. The werewolf transforms and begins to charge on all fours. I quickly mount him and draw my elvish longsword. He rolls a crit, easily taking care of the first Warg with his insane strength while the others in the group whittle the other 2 Wargs down. The fight quickly devolves into the party vs the 2 Great Skelies. The werewolf and I were working quite well as a team with him smashing the skeletons with his heavy blows while I either intercepted counter-hits or slipped a few quick strikes in. As time goes on, even during the boss fight with two Great Skeletons, he continues to put the party in danger for his amusement like firing arrows that could potentially hit party members instead of engaging with is mace. I barely did any damage with my longsword seeing as it's far from blunt. But the elder werewolf was going blow for blow with both of them. The bear also got a few good hits in as well. After the fight everyone in the party besides him, even the other new players work together to solve the puzzle in the room. We do, and I retrieve the sun stone. There are two staircases left and we end up finding our way out. But instead of leaving, we check the last room and Fighter 1's boredom gets the best of him yet again. He charges into a dark room. He sprints forward making all of his saves as he triggers every trap but leaves the party, mainly the bear to deal with them. Bear lady transforms to survive, but fails a control check. She ends up raging on the immediate party. My Elf and the Wood Elf use my 20 foot fishing net to restrain the bear who was attempting to go toe-to-toe with our elder werewolf who at this time is the strongest in the party without a doubt. The bear was... not doing so well against him. She finally calms down and the traps stop moving. The room brightens when Fighter 1 opens the chest and claims the mythril helm from inside The party was audibly upset at his recklessness, but I held my tongue. We quickly escaped the dungeon, finally getting our first glimpse at natural light in days. We start heading down a nearby road till we come upon an abandoned barbarian encampment. We search the tents before I find a single large chest in the middle of the encampments largest tent. I roll to investigate and pass, before being told there are no traps. Before I open the chest, I draw my elvish longsword and open it up to find who we now have in our party as human fighter 2. Before I get to say anything, fighter 1 tries to push me out of the way. I simply say to fighter 1 that I don't move. Then he says that he tries to gently push me out of the way. Again, I say I don't move because I thought it was rude that he tried twice to move me out of the way without asking. He then says in character "Move." Now, I was a little petty about this, but seeing as how he once again did not ask and that he was annoying the party pretty much the entire session, I reply "Move me." So he takes his mace and swings it at me. Surprisingly he lands the hit, but deals 1 damage, barely scratching my Elf. Now, Fighter 1 has been pretty lucky throughout the session. But his luck ran out when he... met... me. Did I mention I was a Battlemage? I had True Strike and Shocking Grasp as my cantrips with Sleep and Jump as my spells, which he was woefully unprepared for. I also had Lucky as a feat after asking the DM if I could roll for it. I had one chance to roll above 90. I rolled a 96. The fight was relatively quick. He went down in 3 turns after sleep and a critical hit after activating true strike. The party didn't help him. They only watched as "I freed his head from his miserable shoulders." Hobbit references aside, he just sat quietly as I took his mythril helm and his funds before noticing fighter 2 had disappeared. A herd of Oliphaunts forced us to leave the encampment before ending up in the Shire. By this time, fighter 1's player had left and the session ended soon after. I didn't keep the mythril helm, though. Later, using fighter 1's gold I had the smithy melt the helm and forge mythril bracers for the elder werewolf that would change with his shape since he was the reason we even survived the first boss fight. The campaign's only had minor problems here n' there, but one year later and we're still going strong.
How would you handle a player like this?
The first thing I’d do is ask the DM if fighting other players is allowed, then I’d wait for a particularly difficult to navigate dungeon to happen by and well....i’ll leave the rest to imagination.
@@GreaterGrievobeast55 oh...
i deleted my post, because i heared the rest XD
I would give him a succubus
@@UndeadSteampunk i would give him some chicken with rice
The true title of this story is “The side character who dreamed for a harem but became a simp instead of a chad 😨”
I like it
That is an unnecesarily long tittle... Perfect for a trashy anime light novel
So... unless I am misreading this title, the reason why Kazuma gave up in Konosuba or how Tightin was the villian in Megamind.
@@HypercomboProduction dont know for megamind but Kazuma at least redeems himself by yearning for true gender equality by dropkicking women. So at the very least he isnt a simp
Oh my God he was the spear hero
When the Bard isn't the one with harem protagonist syndrome: **EXPECTATIONS SUBVERTED**
Idea: A party of Charisma Casters, that can all (Usually) keep it in their pants
Baxter Bruce well, that's kinda easy for me :|
@@justnoob8141 Yeah, me too, now we just need two more
@@baxterbruce9827 Someone say Charisma Caster?
@@lazyspade1559 Yeah
My solution: make every female NPC a succubi. Give him exactly what he wants- but every time he does the deed, he permanently loses a random stat point to the succubus.
That's kind of mean... How about just once and having clerics and other paladins give him the stink eye from then onwards once the rumours spread?
@@goncalocarneiro3043 You do realize HE controls whether it happens once or not, right? You don't have to make *every* NPC a succubi either, you can tone it down to a D6 roll. Roll a nat 1 and it was a succibi.
@@rockspoon6528 Come on, not one in six women the party meet is a succubus! What the heck are those odds? Are one in ten people doppelgangers? It's the same deal with NPC traitors, if one in six NPCs betray the party, we ain't playing D&D, we playin' Among Us. Tone is down to never roll a die, just make the campaign good. Of course, if you have a grimdark setting in which people are just evil and fiends are common sure, 1d6, but not the average campaign! Geez!
I remember when a succubus used to drain levels...
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! YOU IDIOT!
Sorry , your princess is in another castle, indeed
*WHETHER WE WANTED IT OR NOT*
If they were playing a character, this would be a decent dynamic. However, the fact that they were actually an weirdo just ruins it.
They, there was only 1 weirdo tho
@@MajorMasonGaming They isn't just multiple in English. Yay, weirdo language.
True Enough. There Would Be Room For Things Like Character Growth Where He Learns That He Can't Just Hit On Everyone Or The Group Possibly Learns WHY He Hits On Everyone. That,Or It's Played For Laughs Like Brock From Pokemon (And Like Brock From Pokemon,One Player Has The Job Of Dragging Him Away From The Poor NPC).
Hah... Yeah... I had a swashbuckler that wanted a harem because he wanted to be in charge of people after having a childhood where he was kicked around by the women of his tribe. He did end up getting a harem... but he also learned that maybe his original goals were awful, and that these are all people worthy of protection and affection, not trophies. So he stopped trying to win every sort of NPC that came along and became far more focused on protecting his family and kingdom. Yes, his family ended up being much larger than most around him (and he definitely got side-eyed by everyone because he was a gnoll and the women (and men) he went for decidedly weren't), but they made him a better person in the end. (Also gave us as players several moments of hilarity at his expense.)
@@JT5555 Brock is a classic example of a simp.
No point in denying that.
“How would you deal with a player like this!”
>Insert succubus here
Oh man that would have been awesome. I had a player like this once and he voluntarily split himself from the party to fuck a succubus and he died crying.
I see that you’re a person of culture as well...
aren't they supposed to be hot AF though (in both meanings)? I don't think that would have stopped him
"Would you arrest those that have saved my life countless times?!"
"...Maaaaan...! We never get to arrest anyone... This job sucks!"
"Stop! You've violated the Law!
Pay the court a fine or serve your sentance."
*shows adventurer licence*
"awww man! Understandable, have a nice day"
@@Trojianmaru "Stop! You've violated the Law! Pay the court a fine or serve your sentance."
*shows arrow in knee*
@@reeceshugrue6167 "oww! My dingaling! Well, momma always did want me circumsized"
@@Trojianmaru sus
"hey man, if we end up fighting then there is a good chance we are both going to face unnecessary casualties. I don't want to kill anyone, you don't want your men to die so how about we just go our separate ways and forget we ever talked"
You know, Brock from Pokemon is a funny character because he tries and never suceeds, and it is all lighthearted. Now imagine if Brock got salty and resentful each time his white knighting failed, which is every episode? HMMMMMMM. Now worst, imagine he got salty at the same character every single episode and the resentment grew, like, if he did it to another reacurring character like Misty and what not. Not. Funny. Anymore.
Actually, he might get a chance with the Rock Hakuna Olivia from Sun and Moon.
@@rozu7772 The idea is still the same: a long road of failed attempts of romance but none of the drama. He wants to be seen as a girl's knight in shining armor, especially for the Officer Jenny and Nurse Joy characters, and was often clueless the woman wasn't interested, but *never* pushy or prioritized her in expense of everyone else. He even backed off when he realizes they already have boyfriends or are married. This guy? He's not Brock, just a egoistic.
@@girl1213 Agreed.
Brock handles rejection well thats the difference
Aka: The Real Reason He Left. Also Fun Fact: According To A Pokemon Novel Written By One Of The Show's Writers (And Only Ever Released In Japan),Brock's Flirting Is A Direct Result Of His Mother Leaving His Family And Him Being Left To Take Care Of His Many Siblings. That's Why All The Women He Hits On Are Older Women Like The Joys Or The Jennys: He's Basically Looking For A New Mother,But It Translates To Wanting To Date Them.
I am honestly sad that the princess didn’t put him in his place with a simple “You aren’t ever going to get into my pants, let alone interest me in a romantic way” speech.
Think about it. This weirdo was in actuality flirting with his male DM the entire time pretending he was a princess from a medieval fantasy world.
On a side note, I find it stupendous astounding that people will just as easily dish out the word simp if you are just being nice and respectful to the opposite sex vs actively wooing her. But yeah animekun was a try hard white knighting simp.
Yeah, personally I hate that word because of the overuse and abuse.
0:19 That's not a harem anime protagonist. A harem anime protagonist has the personality of a potato, HATES that he's surrounded by women who JUST. WON'T. LEAVE. HIM. ALONE. but at the same time is too much of a nice guy to hurt their feelings so can't man up to reject any of them! This is Johnny Bravo when written poorly.
In fairness, it's really hard to write Johnny Bravo well. Those writers were amazing and got an epic voice actor so it worked out.
Boy you're in for a wake-up call if you watch Redo of Healer.
@@R3GARnator trash anime (guro hentai) for trash people.
Thought you were dissing Johnny Bravo for a second and I low-key got upset. I fucking loved that show as a kid.
So nobody got with the princess?
That’s a subversion of expectations in and of itself.
[9:35] "KiritoTenshiIssei" is his name? I took critical psychic damage from that. XD
Very anime name
i mean it would explain alot.....
Kirito=Sword Art Online=Isekai harem anime
Tenshi=Angel=prolly thought he was god gift to women or summtin
Issei=High School DxD=Another Harem anime about demons/angels and such.
and a damn good one at that one of my faves, however i did not turn into a psychotic white knight beta from watching it
Legend has it if you say the name three times while looking into a mirror, you grow a neckbeard and anime girls appear on all your pillows.
@@swedeonhisway8608 was it Tenshi or Tenchi, because Tenchi is also the name of a character from a harem anime namely well Tenchi Muyo.
@@Ishtarru HAHAHAHA LMAO XD
Huh not very often you see a horn dog paladin it’s usually the bard that’s balls deep in every half orc and drwarven princess we come across
bruh mine tried to romance the orc bandits we were about to take down, then later multiple werewolves and I love every second of it.
@@andusz5518 I made a horny Warlock, but have yet to use him, can't wait for the chance
Bard "It is a dangerous and thankless job. But someone has to do it!" Starts winking at the female Yuan-Ti that gurds the party's cell.
Look, just multiclass bard and Paladin till you're immune to disease. Then dip your wick.
@@Pistonrager the strongest multiclass
Kirito? KIRITO? Well, I get where that player came from! The only thing is, Kirito from SAO is... well, not oblivious to those interested in him, but only has eyes for one!
He's also not a Paladin (Fighter at best, two weapons fighting)
Also Xendor is right, SAO Kirito isn't completely oblivious and picks Asuna fairly quickly
Don't forgot Tenchi. Which makes me think of Tenchi Muyo. Another harem protag. I wonder where Isei comes from
Once again I've returned to hear more from our gracious lore master!
"He didn't even get with the princess, then why did you take her from me?!"
-the player that quit, probably
This kind of story could be a potential warning to me. I'm currently playing a Pitborn Tiefling Paladin of Sarenrae named Baros in a Curse of the Crimson Throne campaign. Baros is descended from a succubus, and as such has an... effect on some women (and a few men) due to his inhuman beauty. There is a whole story as to why that is the case, but in the end, the reason I'm trying to roleplay such a character is because it's outside my usual comfort zone.
But even then, I don't try and go the route of the harem anime protagonist. Baros is not someone who would cheat on his girlfriend. He commits to a single relationship at a time. He just has had a lot of romantic relationships since they have all fallen apart for one reason or another. In fact, that's more or less his primary character goal. To find a woman who wants to be his wife and to start a family.
That sounds so cute
a character of gold, very nice.
Having a loving and supporting wife is a legit kink
This is subverting expectations. A part-succubus in a charisma class? But...it's a Paladin. One who wants to be loyal. Sounds like a good, fun, interesting character to me
That is a simple goal, and unfortunately one of the hardest to achieve, especially for some people (hi). Awesome backstory, hope Baros doesn't die and he can have his happy ending :D
Never thought something like this would happen in D&D lol
Oh you pure innocent soul, you have no idea
@Rubedo Alberti @SantiMar09 Yeeeaaahhh, I'm only getting into D&D/Pathfinder due to some of my friends who have had some experience with them and one of them's trying to plan a Pathfinder for us. Of course it's difficult in our current times but I would like to get into it sometime
*laughs in critcrab*
@@anabnormalartist7275 Hope you have a fun time, feel free to listen to many DnD stories, they are a good source of inspiration and cautionary tales.
@@axios4702 Thank you! One of my friends suggested this channel to me as a source for good roleplays and they are pretty interesting
"Kirito Tenchi Isei"
.... It all makes sense now
I was looking for this comment, its so damn true tho lmao
I'm used to playing as more serious, "group dad" or the "goodest boi" type characters in my games, but I've relatively recently decided to play as a more free spirited and sexually active type character for the first time
I watch these videos to get some idea of how NOT to play these types of character.
Good boi.
Now i would've introduced some sort of shapeshifter villain rogue who takes the form of a female npc, gone along with the paladin until we're alone then and attack him
I think a funnier option would be having the next bar maid be the daughter of the captain of the guard.
@@emberfist8347 how about a lonely hag disguised as a young woman
@@jamesduncan4365 That could work but personally I like the idea of that player being chased by an overprotective dad who also influence and the ensuing roleplay by the players since it could possibly jeopardize the party's mission in the town. A good DM could make an entire story out of the incident like they get punished by doing a job where they find a plot hook that leads to be conspiracy or something.
Or have the love interest be replaced by an Oblex.
Have him be enslaved by a noblewoman. Scratch that, he'd probably just enjoy that one.
See, here's the thing, being the anime protagonist is fine in my opinion as long as it's not taking away from people's fun. The moment it does, that's when communication needs to start and things need to be toned down.
well an anime protagonist needs to actually do things to BE the protagonist
take for exsample the NPC in my D&D XCOM game, Greg, guy when we met him for the first time was actual cannon fodder, just some NPC that could not arc a grenade launcher
now hes a cyborg, a grand soldier and can make friends with just about anyone, and its only been like... 5 missions (we are even thinking of changing him from an NPC to a homebrew class called The Lord, a class that gets more powerful the more bonds of friendship he has)
@@Sawtooth44 ok that's pretty awesome. That class needs to say something kinda cringy to activate any abilities tho. Might I suggest "I fight for my friends" wholesome but cringe inducing all the same
@@shadowsonshadowson3929 or not cringe and you go full Iskandar from Fate/Zero, now THAT is the power of friendship
@@Sawtooth44 I kinda have to disagree.
Look at KonoSuba, the main character was a basic as fuck scrub, with his only high stat being luck (and not high enough to be op), then he met a guy who just reeked of main character syndrome.
Handsome, heroic, beautiful women following him around, magic sword that only he can use etc etc. He tried to save the goddess, got his sword stolen by sheer luck and knocked out, then had to get a normal job to save up enough gold to buy it back, instead of going after the demon king.
So you can definetly have an anime main character in a dnd game, just lamplight it as a funny trope.
He's someone who you'd think should be the main character, but is constantly shown up by others.
Like maybe he was issekai'd into the world to defeat the demon king, only to discover the demon king died of a heart attack the next day, or there was a mix up and he was never supposed to be issekai'd there, and so he thinks he's got a grand destiny, when he really doesn't.
Or he's just a village boy who read too many novels about heroes, and set out to find his destiny, but turns out there was no big bad that needed defeating, so he was stuck doing wolf and rat killing quests.
Or maybe do what south park did, have rumours of the chosen one, and have the character think it's him, only to discover nope, it was that generic as fuck npc all along. Mintberry Crunch, the inn keeper you met during the most boring section of the campaign
@@Trojianmaru there is a difference between a protagonist and a hero, a hero is the one that saves the day, the protagonist is the one that upsets the status quo
a protagonist can be a hero but a hero is not always a protagonist
alot of what you have said is for the backstory of a hero or just a badly written character (the prophet at the end)
guy in konosuba may give off generic anime hero vibes but we dont even remember there name and the series is a satire, its ment to make fun at the tropes, better exsample is Goblin Slayer
we see every so often clips of the hero team fighting the Demon King but thats just what heroes do, hell we could replace there clips with generic issekai and it wont make much of a difference, meanwhile we have the protagonist fighting goblins even though hes good enough to start fighting harder things, but we watch the goblin slayer because between the 2 groups, hes interesting and hes making waves and upsets what normal adventurers do
this is also a pretty good idea on what happens in Fanfiction crossovers, a story can only have 1 protagonist and the protagonist is the one thats upsetting the status quo, they screw with the timeline by being there and the story changes for exsample Man off the Moon we crossover Mass Effect and Fate/Extella, we could watch Shepard and every so often hear what Nameless is doing but we have basically already seen how that goes or we could watch Nameless and see how the world and Shepard reacts to him
Harem protags generally either don't want a harem or don't know their crushes feel the same about them. It's not common for a harem protag to be actively seeking a harem, and they generally get rejected left right and center when they do.
Yup... but i kinda feel sorry for the paladin player if this rpg was his only catharsis--we've all had unrealistic expectations IRL
Princess got daughter-zone
lol
What a chad
Because clearly the only reason a man and woman would ever hang out with each other was because they were in love XP
I thought it was to level our charisma stats
Unfortunately, a lot of people actually seem to believe that. It's learned behaviour.
Shippers are probably the worst in any fandom. Doesn't matter if it's a two men, two women, a man and a woman, or two constructs that are vaguely humanoid. They will make relationships that don't even exist.
@@zacharygadzinski3147 This is true and it gets really, really uncomfortable when you realize how bad some of the power dynamics in a lot/ majority of the ships is.
I like to think there are many forms of love, Romance being just one of them. Friendship is another example. So is family loyalty. Parents love their children. The list goes on.
There's also intensity of feeling to consider. One might be attracted to someone but not enough to pursue more than friendship.
Point is you're right and I'm just expanding on your idea a bit.
Communication is key. I've played a campaign where everyone in the party was in the harem of the leader of said party. And it worked fine. Not everyone woman or man has to be wooed.
As soon as you revealed the name to be Kirito, I literally lol'd
Let me prefece this with I am the sole female player in an otherwise all male group. I was running a male PC in an otherwise all female party. One of the players joked to me "Your Harem awaits" Jack only had eyes for the female bard Sparrow. As for the others
One was a lesbian
One was a cat
One was just a friend.
You didn't get the cat? Man, you missed some pussy /s
One harem to rule them all. 🤣👌
That's when you post a screenshot of his convo with you trying to request to have dibs on princess and you caption it "so long Mr. Nice guy"
Apologies, but I read the last bit to the tune of "No more Mr Nice Guy" and now I need this parody in my life XD
As a member of the weeb community we do not claim him
Agreed
that's hilarious
I was a rogue weeb once... but it was early 90s and i wanted to be Rick Hunter as a mecha pilot or Parn the free knight. Harems weren't the focus, it was about adventure & personal growth.
Man that title is super interesting
You don't say
At first I thought the paladin’s player was just joking around and wanted to go a different direction with his character (since paladins are usually unproblematic and like to help everyone). But when the player got angry because the bard wouldn’t tell his character who the regal NPC was, I realized that this is no joke.
I wonder how he would have reacted if he encountered a female NPC that was secretly evil.
Get rect scrub
Im thinking something even more evil...... what if it was a "girl" that he encountered..... think astolfo from Fate and felix from re zero.
Incoming succubae!
Or the DM could be a little cruel and introduce a Beautiful, gentle, graceful, sweet healer Princess with big eyes and bright pink or blue coloured hair in long pigtails (basically an almost perfect angel of a girl). She's on a quest to find half of a lost artefact for her Goddess, so she can return it home and prove she's finally ready to marry and take the throne.
He spends half the campaign trying to woo her but she always ignores it, avoids him or simply changes the subject, as she was taught nobles manners and can't just tell him sod off.
Then halfway through the campaign a good looking, tall, powerful, muscular female fighter turns up and is oddly VERY protective of the Princess and annoyed with this guy. It's revealed she is the Princesses secret Fiancee, they are both madly in love and she has already retrieved her half of the artefact.
Then he has to put up with not one but two women in the party ignoring him and happily making eyes at each other.
Depends if he knew out of game that she was evil or not. If he knew, he'd suddenly start being evil himself for no reason, and just start doing random evil things like kicking puppies, stabbing npcs and being a dick to the rest of the party. Even if his character was the holiest, nicest simp before that.
If he didn't know she was evil until she turned against the party, he'd side with her against the party, no matter what the circumstances were, then get pissed at the other players if they managed to kill him or the npc (while saying "it's just a game, don't get so salty" if he managed to kill any of them)
This was clearly the DM's fault. He's the one that described the princess as a young, attractive woman. If he would have only described her as homely or ugly, the paladin wouldn't have taken an interest in her. LOL. j/k. That paladin really needed to play more in-character and not get so upset by things not going his way.
Terrified me in the first half, not gonna lie lol
I now wanna homebrew Paladin Oath of the Simp.
Holy crap I think I came across that guy it was a couple of days ago I was part of a campaign where I was playing as my female kobold bard and the guy who was trying to seduce me had both pictures on his roll20 and Discord with an anime character can't remember which one he tried to seduce me several times but I keep telling him that my character didn't swing that way then he got so upset that I was turning him down so he contacted the DM and convinced him to kick me out of the campaign today I have no idea why I just Shrugged and now I'm looking for a new one.
If the DM kicked you out over some bullshit like that it was not a very good game to begin with. You are better off not being part of something like that. Hope your next game is better.
100% agree with Gelenor, it sucks to lose out on a group but you are better off without them.
Sounds like you're better off not being in that group. Hope you find a better group to play with.
What was the name of the game? xD
@@john98765333 I think the campaign was called The War of Mysteries it was a 5th edition campaign.
To be fair “summer winter romances” are a touchy subject for some people.
But the older guy wasn’t even interested in the princess. The paladin just thought he was his god’s gift to females. I wish some of the girls would’ve smacked him around til he knocked it off. I can’t stand unwanted white knights.
@@kittyelf1485 true the guy was just a weird simp.
Except this isn't really a case of that. The age difference is just under 20 years. If it was that the Wizard was 55 or so I would say he has a point but it isn't.
@@emberfist8347 Even then, I have seen a May-December Romance work out before. December will not see his Grandkids, but he is raising his son right.
@@andyknightwarden9746 i know the origin of your terminology but describing December as the man in the relationship has me imagining May as the pokemon character and it's mildly amusing.
"Elderly man and a young *f e m a l e*."
Jeez. You know it's bad when they can't even say lady or woman.
Dieter's basically a patient Indiana Jones who can keep it in his pants.
This reminds me of several simps that turned really scary in my life. Ladies, if you aren't eighteen yet I want you to know. The moment you are considered legal and sometimes even before, sexual harassment under the guise of being the "nice guy" will happen. Know that they are not nice guys and that some will go as far as to try and ruin your life if you reject them, be careful.
@Angelo Aitken I would fault it more to lacking maturity. Not everyone grows up at the same time. Sometimes it takes a while for someone to develop the ability to think beyond themselves, when considering others.
@Angelo Aitken women tend to favor a different route than the white knight approach. Both genders have their own unique method of manipulating each other and both are equally dangerous and damaging when rejected.
@@dandew1072 the female version of a white knight is a Yandere.
the dont have the same way to manipulate but...
@Angelo Aitken I'm simply speaking from my own experience, especially considering the naivety I once had considering situations I was in. They seemed nice, friendly, harmless, and considerate. The moment I told them no though, everything changed and they showed me just how dangerous they actually were. I've never experienced sexual harassment from a female so I can't speak for the men who have suffered so.
@@swedeonhisway8608 Male Yandere exist. They just aren't as commonly depicted in media as the female ones.
Such immaturity
wait, the paladin
"KiritoTenshiIssei", and I shudder to think what his Profile Picture was. XD
How much psychic damage was that, BTW? XD
@@rvpairofdicethewanderer2383 Too much damage.
Luckily I only know the first third of the name so the psychic damage was pretty negligible. 😂
@@rvpairofdicethewanderer2383 Emergence/Metamorphosis levels.
I find the stories about anime stuff in DND games where it's not the "theme" of the game kinda weird. Coming from someone who likes anime.
I think you can take inspiration from anime, but the player has to make that inspiration fit the setting in order to make it work.
@@samsadowitz1724 Right. Precisely what I mean.
@@evangrescol7772 a key example is that my newest character is inspired by Wiz and Vanir from konosuba where he is a craftsman that makes cursed items (effects are up to RNGsus) and sells them to people while halfway enjoying the thrill of the con. Only catch is that he kinda hates himself for not being able to make good shit (magically enhanced items/weapons). So he takes garbage items he thinks he can use to make better stuff, sells it to unsuspecting folks, then runs before they can catch him as a way to make money.
For me, it's all about how self-aware the player is. If someone wants to play the lecherous bard or rogue, and it's a character flaw they roleplay while the player knows they're being THE WORST, that's one thing. If the player themselves thinks they are always the main character and can't understand that this isn't time to be a Mary Sue, it's a disaster. They are part of a team and not the main character. Respect what you roll and respect the team and DM.
This reminded me of my shining moment as a fighter. Party of 3. Me: Human Fighter, Neutral Good. Human Thief, I steal absolutely everything and leave y'all holding the bag. Human Paladin of Prayer Time, Chaotic Useless.
We're in an old castle going up one of the smaller keeps. We enter a room on the 4th level, small round room. 3 chests with a iron statue standing behind each chest. You see where this is going. Our thief didn't care. Opened one of the chests. Door closes magically and we can't open it. Iron "Statues" Golems come to life. I begin fighting them. Thief begins trying to find a way to open door. Paladin sits down by thief, takes out lyre, plays lyre while singing a prayer to his god. I'm barely holding my own against 3 iron golems by giving up ground so they can't flank or get behind me.
Me: Can I get some help here!
Paladin: I'm praying harder!
Me: Thanks a lot!
I was moving away from my party and the golems were following me, just me. I hoped that my party would take the golden opportunity at a rear attack. Nope. Instead they get the door open, momentarily, and use that opportunity to save their own skins. Door shuts again. And I'm about to be curb stomped by 3 iron golems. Fortunately the DM is kind and they don't use their breath attack. I see a window. Not an arrow loop. An actual open several feet tall, a couple feet wide window. (It had been in the description, but I just remembered it and thought up a plan.) I made my way there and next round won initiative by a wide margin. Back to the window I crouched down and waited for the golems to rush me. When they did I lunged forward rolling under the middle golem, between his legs. This used my first attack. Then used my second attack. Shoved him from behind as hard as I could (18/90 something STR) and won thanks to the DM rolling a one on the golems contest roll. DM determined my plan worked. The now off balance, stumbling, arms flailing golem caught the other two as he broke thru the weak point of the wall and they all fell to the ground.
And then the door opened.
While I have my expectations, I generally don't have a high opinion of the Harmen Genre anyway since it's often abused by narcs and egoists who don't understand that males and females can be just friends without the drama of romance. This is why a lot of people I played D&D with tend to see me do this 🤦♀️when I realize there's a guy flirting with every female NPC he sees. My humor for it has it's limits and I wouldn't like being in a session with this guy since I'd be throwing it in his face that I'm not a Tsundere love interest.
He took the oath of simping
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Okay this might be because i've heard so many stories worst than this, but besides being annoying, he didn't like "RP rape" a player or NPC or killed the bard to get the princess, unless it's in the details we don't have. Definitely a tame anime mc.
Main character syndrome strikes again.
9:20 "Unless he was referring to other players, he was referring to me"
Nooooooo, if he wasn't referring to anyone else then it has to be me! what a FUCKING SHOKNAOJDKN
I also had a game with a player who wanted to build a Harem out of EVERY NPC woman we came across. His Wizard and my Paladin nearly butt heads when he found out my character had a daughter and I requested she not be targeted as another notch in his belt
I think that 'those' people should have their heads shrunken. Or find a group that would go for 'that'. Highly doubt on the group.
there is a group for that, its called "playing alone" in your room. lol
Little harsh, but I see where you're coming from. Based on the fact that the character had multiple NPC "girlfriends" the DM clearly had no issues indulging the Paladin character, probably just as long as it made sense. Which, for the princess, it clearly did not.
If he was just playing a character that would be one thing, characters with blatant flaws lead to interesting stories and plots or can just be a thing to laugh at with the party. (Unexpectables while he doesn’t have a harem Panic does swoon both men and women alike and does it without breaking character or complaing with two Npcs get together with each other instead of him)
man these are the really juicy stories
As a DM, I'd plant a variety of NPCs specifically to "get" that paladin. Depending on how bad he was in person, it could be something as simple as the perfect woman who returns his affections, forcing him to deal with a relationship that doesn't tolerate a wandering eye. Or, hell, a dragon moonlighting as a barmaid for fun who is VERY offended by his advances and kicks his ass across several counties. But any action I took there would be only if my players expressed discomfort, because I do tend to leave them to themselves for RP as much as I can. Honestly, I'm more upset at a healer-character not being a fucking responsible healer. I'M SCALING COMBAT OVER HERE EXPECTING THE HEALER TO HEAL, DUMBASS. So yeah.
As a player....... *cackles evily* So here's the thing, I play a Swords bard. A tall, mysterious, lovely, FEMALE bard. Who is FLAMIGLY bisexual with a jaw-dropping persuasion score. If I was playing with a little bitch of a white knight like that, I'd steal ALL the women from him. I'd sex up the ones down for it, and take the super straight ones out for brunch and become their BFF and tell them all the reasons they totally deserve better than that little twerp. I would also use my feat, By Popular Demand, WAY more than necessary to engender the good will to pull this all off. And if the paladin got upset with me stealing women from him, just innocently go, "Oh, well, you were doing it so much, I thought a little competition would be fun. I'm sorry, do you need me to go easy on you? Oh, was that insensitive of me? You just seem a little tense, maybe you need to get laid.. Ooooo, right, you can't, sorry!" Or something similarly snarky. Probably set him up for the mental left hook of my bard having several serious girlfriends, and then an aside, "My husband would LOVE this!" because my bard is happily married and polyamorous about it, and that tends to melt what little is between the ears of white knights.
Basically, as a DM, I'd let my players handle it however they chose, would prioritize the group dynamic in any dealings, and would do my best, if asked, to humble any main-characterism. As a player, yeah no all bets are off, I'ma fuck with this bitch until he either snaps and leaves, or breaks down and admits that this shit is funny.
The words 'jealous' and 'Harem Anime Protagonist' dont really go together. Typically, harem protags dont even realize they have a harem until its pointed out to them and sometimes not even then.
Yep, not much like a HAP at all then. Again, they typically just act the same to everyone and dont even notice the gaggle of waifus trailing behind them as more than friends and companions. This Paladin sounds more like the asshole rival than anything.
That's just the most common kind, though. Someone like Rance from the Rance games, or Keyaru from Redo of Healer, are basically evil dudes who go out and take what they want by force.
That's not a harem anime protagonist! An harem anime protagonist would be dense as fuck and not realize the girls are hitting on him.
If he wanted to piece together who an NPC was I would have him roll investigation
Damn, im not gonna lie tho, as that bard, I would have called out to and waited to jump *with* the paladin rather than beelining it, despite the player's odd behavior. Or used some kind of spell, but I don't know what was in his repertoire and sometimes the game is stressful, making decisions split second.
It sounded like a mutual, “oh, shit, let’s run”, followed by a roll for initiative where nobody predicted the crit & hits that followed.
@@Vessekx yeah
ah yes, the tale of Sir Simp.
My first sorceror was a high charisma guy who wanted to attain godhood. His first plan was to breed himself followers (he was 16 yrs old). He did seduce several women, but only got one pregnant. He realized this plan wouldn't work and stopped seducing every chance he got. Of course, the DM assumed every time I asked who was around (ex: in a tavern, "who do I see around me?") I was asking for women. It got to the point I would say, "I need directions, who around me can I ask?" or something along these lines. Still, the DM tried to curb my character's libido by forcing my character to marry the dwarf woman I got pregnant. That was fine by me, but he took it a bit far. If you know the Night Angel books, he stole an idea from them (magic wedding rings). He was new to DM'ing and I was still newish to DnD. There was some friction there (I felt targeted). In the end, it worked out. I set up a shop in the capital of one of the kingdoms, and she ran the shop while I adventured. It gave me a small but steady stream of gold. The campaigned ended before he could accomplish his goal (got derailed and we had to start fresh with a new campaign),
Currently in a campaign with a bard played similarly to this one. In it to earn coin, perfect his music and partake in adventures to sing about. Both DM and party are always wondering why I'm not attempting to get in the pants of every female npc or take advances on the obviously attractive female part member. One of them even said to me "You're not playing your class right, how disappointing." Simply told him off that just because I play a bard doesn't mean I must horn dog it and bang everything that walks on two legs. The question should be why everyone wanted my bard to jump on every female npc and not their own player characters, equal opportunities all around. On one occasion they and the DM called me a simp because I healed the female pcs; fyi, my bard is in a 1v1 with enemy npc, everyone spread out, only people in line of sight was female pcs who use range weapons, male pcs rushed ahead around corner of a cave...simp for dishing out a healing word in this situation? Wow..
Anyone else love the birds in the background?
Playing devil’s advocate I would feel kinda salty if the bard had abandoned me to. Had I been the bard and the paladin was someone I liked I probably would have waited to make sure the paladin made it to safety to. But hindsight is 20/20 and i don’t have the full picture from this story. That name at the end did make me cringe
I don’t think there’s much a bard could do seeing how the giant statues basically killed the Paladin after a few hits. So either they both stayed and died or he uses his initiative to run. It was just the unfortunate case of bad rolls, Paladin got poor initiative combined with statues get a crit. Not much anyone could do there.
Probably. Just seems like maybe waiting on the edge to maybe use a clutch healing word to dive over the edge at the beginning of his next turn would have been doable but maybe not. Idk.
Wait a devotion paladin who didn't want to submit to authority, thats an oathbreaking.
"And then I noticed a pattern...." Start of MOST D&D player horror stories
Okay, this one was spectacular. I like Isekai enough in manga and videogames, heck other fiction as well, but trying to chase any skirt under the sun in a trpg with multiple other players involved? Yeah, that's simply not done, it raises my suspicions on the age of the douche-adin too how he ragequit.
I'm currently two sessions into a new campaign and I'm pretty sure I've already begun a slowly growing romance with our party Druid. I didn't even plan for it to happen, but I'm on board with it if that's what winds up happening.
Let us know how it turns out.
- So how does a barbarian leave the dungeon?
- You guessed it: rage quits!
I heard of dudes sending messages to other dudes to keep away from certain girls but never fictional ones...
It takes a special kind of thirst.
I know the fedora from the story is lurking in the comments.
That is a scary thought
“The legend of simp: the bastard chad”
I have only had one IC romance with an NPC, and it was when my human fighter after serving for and helping a small barbarian kingdom ended up married to the princess turned queen. It was also the retirement of my character at that point as well as she felt her duty was now to the queen and the kingdom itself.
How to handle players like the paladin:
Understand their psyche. Typically the harem protagonist behavior is about power, control and posession.
You can easily counteract with a promiscuous and flirty Tiefling barmaid. Have her go along with the flirting (go as far as you want), but the next time the player visits, she's flirting with someone else (or more depending on how much you want to rub it into their face). Should the player decide to confront her/throw a tantrum, she makes it clear that what she does with consenting adults is her business and her business alone.
Harem protagonists don't act like that.
Bruh this dude straight up told someone to back off from a lady that doesn’t exist
This is giving me Rising of Shield Hero vibes. Harem guy is Spear hero.
Kirito...tenshi Issei....really as in Kirito (SAO) Tenshi from Tenshi Muyo and Issei from Highschool DxD. so much for D&D originality. Also he lost the name sake...kirito never quits, Tenshi is a hard working and honest "man" and Issei is very innocent and gullable but super honest....not some slob simp that just wants waifus. Edit: actually i would have given that kirito tenshi issei guy props if he calmed down...thinked for a day or two and then went to the group and ask to be evaluated instead of running away with a tail behind its legs.
The bard being confused with the princess' disappointment is true harem protagonist behavior
I am honestly not surprised he acted like the main character of an anime, considering he named his character Kirito. Back in season one of Sword Art Online, Kirito (who I'm willing to bet the Paladin's character is named after) was a TOTAL Mary Sue.
Yeah, Kirito was a Gary Sue in SAO. That's why I don't watch SAO.
I'd have loved to run my Goblin Bard Pynt with that paladin. Pynt isn't the "chase every skirt he sees" kind of bard, but instead is a bit more of a rockstar. He performs at taverns, and my DM decides if he gets any groupies based on his performance check, which is pretty solid thanks to expertise. I bet that paladin would be frothing at the mouth after a couple towns.
Long rolling green hills. A party running for it from a chasing dragon. The gnome illusionist looks back to see the dragon just coming over a hill close to someone house atop a hill. The gnome puts out his hand and looks at the house (a mile back) through the space between his finger and thumb. He picks up the far away house between his finger and thumb and drops it on the dragon
Yeah... If I was a dungeon master and I had a player like this I would consider pulling your princess is in another castle line on him... I don't mind having a romantic story here in there in dnd but I really get annoyed when a player trys to f everything with 2 legs... Or 4 legs... Or with any sort of sexuality at all...
You know unless it's played off as funny... Then I'd let it go...
You know a true harem protagonist, would be dense as fuck. Help out at random moments, sure. Mostly the girls are randomly wooed. Not forced.
So he's basically Sanji from One Piece.
Oh God as he mentioned the name at the end. If you name your PC 'Kirito' it says everything.
I’ve never had an issue like this. But our characters (with a group I played with) had a small design in them that if someone was uncertain about something someone else did, a discussion would be had, such as if we had to choose between saving one PCs family or rescue another’s Wife or some shit. And we would weigh the options and the consequence of the choice and once we were all ok with the outcome we chose. Bit of a rant, but long story short our characters had a “hey I’m not so sure about something can we talk?” Or “hey I have a problem with you, let’s work it out” either way we always find a way to get back to being allies instead of frenemies.
Imagine being so desperate you ask other players to back off from an NPC
*That bard be reaching levels of Simping that SHOULDN'T EVEN BE POSSIBLE! 😲*
Aw, so classic Harem Portage: Pathetic as all can be. I played a horn dog before, several in fact, but they toed a line (no means no, hates abusive situations, will not force an issue, does not hit on teammates etcetera). They This guy, not one of them. My Rogue (who is self-aware that he has as much game as Johny Brovo) would tell him to quit it.
The only time I think this became a real propblem in my 15 odd years of gaming...the DM broke the fourth wall and told a different player if they kept this kind of behavior up, he would have to kill the charecter as it would make the mission fail. He behaved from then on.
I mean most show that devastation in their voices when something goes wrong or they die, it's just a normal reaction, it's whether they start kicking off about it. In a way I can understand his annoyance, but sometimes you just gotta brush it off, though it's known for dm's to specifically have a favourite player etc
I had one PC in a Curse of Strahd party get so close to taking over the entire Sword Coast just because he white knighted my character who was the heir to Neverwinter. Basically my friends and I were playing Curse of Strahd. About halfway through the campaign we lost two of our fighters due to real life stuff going on that summer and had two others join the party to help. Both of the new PC's were vampires who were connected to Strahd: Alexander Von Roeyen (Zarovich) and his friend Evelyn Sunstar. (Fun fact: Both Alexander and Evelyn were based off Alucard and Saris Victoria from Helsing Ultimate.) My character, Zelda Alagondar, welcomed these PC's to the party but was obviously skeptical given their nature and relation to Strahd. You see, Alexander was Strahd and Sergei's younger brother which made Zelda think that Alexander was just a spy or userper of Strahd. After a few months of adventhuring Zelda and Alexander started getting to know each other and came up with a plan to overthrow Strahd and take over Barovia. What started as a political coup turned into a wholesome romance between the prince of Barovia and the princess and heir of Neverwinter. By the time Strahd was getting ready to take over the Sword Coast, Alexander and Zelda were planning on getting married and joining the kingdoms, meaning that if Alexander thought about what he was doing he could have taken over both the Domains of Dread and the Sword Coast fairely easily all by white knighting a princess.
Dang, that guy was a simp with a capital I
in my old pathfinder campaign like 8 years ago my paladin was also a bit of a casanova but even he settled down before he died cause a troll one shotted him
That name tho 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Paladin going for ladies? That went down so bad.
This is unrelated aside from Bard characters avoiding romance: I made a special kind of Bard background: The Storyteller. A traveler who simply tells fairy tales and/or writes plays. Essentially, upping the “Author” aspect and lowering the Music part. Now, of course, most of the audiences would be children, so I asked a friend of mine who DMs a game of being good with children counts as being proficient in animal handling. The guy said yes. Thus began the story of James Dunwich, the exiled Noble who became the local storyman
I had to share this. But fair warning, though, it's a long one.
I was a player in a Lord of the Rings campaign taking place in the second age. I was playing a Ñoldor (Deep Elf) Battlemage who's companions were an elder werewolf Barbarian (yes they existed in the Tolkien universe), human fighter 1 (the problem player), human fighter 2 (The min-maxing, item/weapon hoarding power player who only appears near the end of this tale), a wood elf ranger and a six foot naked barbarian skin-changer bear lady. We started in a dungeon locked inside our rooms with minimum weapons and equipment at level 1. We were also asked to describe our characters and backstories. My description of my appearance was brief since it was easy to imagine. My elf being 6'2", pale skin green eyes and black hair with a backstory that tied him to Tolkien's lore of the Ñoldor. Naturally, Fighter 1 was the only one who was indifferent about the appearance and backstory of his character. But five character descriptions were enough to get the cogs of our imaginations spinning. So we moved on. Our tasks had been laid before us. Solve our puzzles, get out, find the nearest town and rest. Everyone had taken a decent amount of time to solve their puzzles and we were spread throughout the dungeon until one of us found the other. I was found by a pirate who saw me on the dungeon floor after I managed to crawl out of piranha-infested waters and attempt to catch my breath. One by one we began to find each other and piece the dungeon together. We fashioned a map out of materials we found in our rooms, but unbeknownst to our characters, Fighter 1 had not been found. So the DM cuts to him.
Now personally, I should've seen this guy's crap coming from a mile away 'cause I knew him personally. He was an "I live in the moment" kind of guy, and it showed in how he played. Doing stupid things to endanger himself and the party with no regard for consequences. He was also the kind of guy who would not try to think things through, and when people would try to lead him to a logical conclusion, he would just laugh and say, "I don't even give a fuck." like some petulant teenager. Keep in mind that this is a 23 year old man who's character alignment is "chaotic good". He walks into a dungeon room where there is a Drow hanging upside-down from the ceiling with a metal box on his face masking him and blinding him. He was bound by his ankles with his wrists bound at his waist. The key was visible to his player after he rolled a natural twenty for investigation. But instead of just helping the guy out he grabbed the key, threw it across the dark room, kicked the Drow's locked head as hard as he could then ran out of the room giggling out of character. The most annoying laugh I've ever heard. Like a dolphin high on meds. Everyone was quiet except him. He thought it was hilarious. But we ignored it and continued on. We had a few encounters in the dungeon and ended up having to save the pirate who ended up diving into the water to head towards the treasure chest he entered the cave to retrieve. Pirahna's literally took chunks out of him, and I tried to throw the 20 foot fishing net I found in my room at him but failed the strength check. The elder werewolf undid the tangled net then dominated the strength check after transforming into an 8.5 foot werewolf with silver fur, Our party was nothing short of surprised to see such a display. The pirate's cries soon caught our attention once again, forcing us to engage. Seeing that the pirate was too weak to stay afloat, I dove in after him. At that moment, a goblin DMPC dove into the water after me and began helping me pull him out. Mind you, the entire time this was going on, Fighter 1 just sat there on his phone and continued to contribute next to nothing to the adventure even after the fact. After we were back on land, we were all confused to see a werewolf PC and a goblin DMPC who could speak broken common being friendly as beings of these types were usually hostile. The werewolf transformed into his human form and the goblin asked if we were lost before offering to help us find our way out as long as we freed his friend.
We were lead to a room where the room had been darkened by magical means. Fighter 1 sprinted through that room and the next, passing both dex saves before coming upon an armory, leaving the party behind to deal with whatever attacked him. Halfway through the first room, the pirate was sucked into the darkness and devoured. We quickly spread out across the walls of the room and felt around till we found a door. The door to the armory was open so the party easily caught up. But not before fighter 1 taken the best armor and weapons in the armory. After grabbing what useful loot was left, the goblin lead us to a wall of rocks in the next room where we heard bear sounds on the other side. He told us that a strong cage door kept the beast on the other side within. We all pitched in to help, but fighter 1 was preoccupied with searching for more "special weapons" in the armory. Once the rocks were thrown away, the goblin jumped onto what seemed to be a large humanoid creature. Enter naked beefy barbarian skin-changer. Confused, at having heard bear sounds from before, we asked where they could've gone. Ignoring the fact that there was a hulking naked barbarian in front of us. She explained her lineage and thanked us for finding her friend. The goblin opened the cage door at the end of the hall, not wanting to go back the previous way. We stepped into a dark room, treading carefully as we looked around. Suddenly the braziers in the room lit up and all we see are 3 Skeletal Wargs and 2 Great Skeletons charging at us. The werewolf transforms and begins to charge on all fours. I quickly mount him and draw my elvish longsword. He rolls a crit, easily taking care of the first Warg with his insane strength while the others in the group whittle the other 2 Wargs down. The fight quickly devolves into the party vs the 2 Great Skelies. The werewolf and I were working quite well as a team with him smashing the skeletons with his heavy blows while I either intercepted counter-hits or slipped a few quick strikes in.
As time goes on, even during the boss fight with two Great Skeletons, he continues to put the party in danger for his amusement like firing arrows that could potentially hit party members instead of engaging with is mace. I barely did any damage with my longsword seeing as it's far from blunt. But the elder werewolf was going blow for blow with both of them. The bear also got a few good hits in as well. After the fight everyone in the party besides him, even the other new players work together to solve the puzzle in the room. We do, and I retrieve the sun stone. There are two staircases left and we end up finding our way out. But instead of leaving, we check the last room and Fighter 1's boredom gets the best of him yet again. He charges into a dark room. He sprints forward making all of his saves as he triggers every trap but leaves the party, mainly the bear to deal with them. Bear lady transforms to survive, but fails a control check. She ends up raging on the immediate party. My Elf and the Wood Elf use my 20 foot fishing net to restrain the bear who was attempting to go toe-to-toe with our elder werewolf who at this time is the strongest in the party without a doubt. The bear was... not doing so well against him. She finally calms down and the traps stop moving. The room brightens when Fighter 1 opens the chest and claims the mythril helm from inside The party was audibly upset at his recklessness, but I held my tongue.
We quickly escaped the dungeon, finally getting our first glimpse at natural light in days. We start heading down a nearby road till we come upon an abandoned barbarian encampment. We search the tents before I find a single large chest in the middle of the encampments largest tent. I roll to investigate and pass, before being told there are no traps. Before I open the chest, I draw my elvish longsword and open it up to find who we now have in our party as human fighter 2. Before I get to say anything, fighter 1 tries to push me out of the way. I simply say to fighter 1 that I don't move. Then he says that he tries to gently push me out of the way. Again, I say I don't move because I thought it was rude that he tried twice to move me out of the way without asking. He then says in character "Move." Now, I was a little petty about this, but seeing as how he once again did not ask and that he was annoying the party pretty much the entire session, I reply "Move me." So he takes his mace and swings it at me. Surprisingly he lands the hit, but deals 1 damage, barely scratching my Elf. Now, Fighter 1 has been pretty lucky throughout the session. But his luck ran out when he... met... me. Did I mention I was a Battlemage? I had True Strike and Shocking Grasp as my cantrips with Sleep and Jump as my spells, which he was woefully unprepared for. I also had Lucky as a feat after asking the DM if I could roll for it. I had one chance to roll above 90. I rolled a 96. The fight was relatively quick. He went down in 3 turns after sleep and a critical hit after activating true strike. The party didn't help him. They only watched as "I freed his head from his miserable shoulders." Hobbit references aside, he just sat quietly as I took his mythril helm and his funds before noticing fighter 2 had disappeared. A herd of Oliphaunts forced us to leave the encampment before ending up in the Shire. By this time, fighter 1's player had left and the session ended soon after. I didn't keep the mythril helm, though. Later, using fighter 1's gold I had the smithy melt the helm and forge mythril bracers for the elder werewolf that would change with his shape since he was the reason we even survived the first boss fight. The campaign's only had minor problems here n' there, but one year later and we're still going strong.