I trespassed a dude who fought well until all the bouncers got to him named Travis Fulton. I can't remember what he looked like. I'm going to check the birthdate, the club keeps all those records.
I'm balls deep in MMA so i know about most of these incidents, being a fan of MMA this is the stuff that's hard to talk about, I love and respect fighters so much that you almost don't want any of them to take that dark path, but that's the world we live in, evil everywhere. Good stuff man.
Love yer content Jimmy! I wish you could have included Rousamar Polaharas (sp?) as an honorable mention. He was notoriously known for not letting go of a submission after they tapped... Dana actually fired him for that exact reason. I was ecstatic when Alan Belcher beat him. He was a real pos fighter.
I could tell a laundry list of stories about War Machine. He was teaching the MMA classes At my gym, one day the manager asked me why I didn’t do the MMA classes, Machine was teaching at that exact moment, I just looked over and we watched for like 30 seconds, all I replied was “with that guy?” Laughed and went back to my solo workout. He knew exactly what I meant. Besides that fact that his favorite exercise was 100 burpees…..him consistently assaulting anyone near the gym acting up, or he felt he had a reason to, that was always entertaining
Isn't he from that old show on Nat Geo(I think), where him and his buddy would travel the globe doing different martial arts? I remember they fought a style in California that only gave you 6 seconds on the ground. He was subbiming them within the six seconds.
Jimmy. I am the absolute peak of the casual mma fan. Been obsessed for years now and watch mma news everyday. There is a massive place for mma news and stories like this + recaps and interviews with predictions for fights. There’s so many alright ones out there but all of them have parts that are annoying, out of touch or boring. I really think you could have a massive channel if you do this properly. Probably the most authentic, interesting and humble guys doing it and I know for a fact you have no haters and nothing but respect in the industry. Hope you can keep it up and really make a career out of this stuff. I will be watching closely!
The realist, most accurate, down to earth, non arrogant mma analyst we got. UFC dropped the ball get this man a job back at front desk. Why the fuck am I listening to Dominick Cruz the most cringe announcer ever ….
@@Saidwhatyourethinking tell me about it bro!!!!! I have to admit I started liking dc. But wtf happened to Mike Goldberg he got me so pumped when a knockout happened. Cruz is an idiot. Even Joe Rogan is irritating me lately. Someone is smashingfrom full guard. And then Joe “watch out mannnn he’s a juijitsu blackbelt get outta there!!”
@Buddyguy1988 Goldberg was fired for leaking information to the most hated (also banned) media member Ariel helwanni... they were apparently trying to keep the date a secret when conor was coming back years ago and goldy apparently leaked it to Ariel who of course immediately went on his podcast and shared the info before the ufc could.. goldy being fired was 100% justified regardless of the popular narrative that they did him dirty.. he not only leaked info but of all the people to leak it to, he chose Ariel who dana and tons of fighters HATE..
Gumby" Jeremy Horn man i havent heard that name for awhile but i did used to like watching him fight & he does have some big name wins on his resume as well as some big losses If i remember right he went 3-0 in a trilogy with Cheal Sonnen & had a win over Chuck Liddel, i remember him losing to Anderson S. thanks for bringing him up Jimmy im going to go down that rabbithole this weekend 🙌
Impossible because chael never lost a round in his career. He did beat chuck though but it was early in his career and then got destroyed in the rematch.
@@byah160😂 I stand corrected the Man with the biggest arms, most charm and does the most harm straight from the tough streets of West Linn Oregon, The American Gangster himself Chael P. Sonnen is undefeated & undisputed. 🙌🤝love Chael 💪
Wow, I dont know how the algorithms got me here but this is crazy…. Trip down memory lane. I remember first watching you on fight quest back in the day and showed everyone the kyokushin episode because no one knew what I was referring to when I said I trained it. Are you still actively training ? I hope all is well. Osu!
@@AaronOverEverythingAgreed 👍 I'd love to see some of those old Ga fights. But yeah hell of a fighter and pioneer who's name IMO deserves more recognition 🙌
It's disturbing, but informative and interesting. I think many MMA intertwined themes are good content like evil in MMA. Perhaps, also a counter like Great people in MMA.
Bedside Glock and a fixed blade. A German Shepherd at the end of the bed. Alarms and cameras. Don't care how good a grappler you are, Double 00 at three feet ends the kung fool. They're great athletes, they're not superhuman.
Imo Jimmy is the closest to an OG old school Joe Rogan. In terms of technical breakdown and that ability to commentate It like a friend in a party not a robot
The whole idea that the UFC lets people go for domestic battery is priceles. if that domestic batterer makes the company money or, in fact, runs the company, no problem
what on earth are you talking about? Are you faulting dana for being slapped and slapping someone lightly back? You are an awful person and most likely an actual creep if you have to imagine the worst of people to elevate your own pathetic ass.
Great job Jimmy! I have always been a fan, even thru the wwe days. Lol Keep it up bro. I really like the content and think the best is yet to come. I doubt you will ever read this specific post, but if you do, feel free to reach out. I do content reviews for content creators. Mainly combat sports. Again, great job so far and I really think this could be your future. Maybe a Joe Rogan type but without so much drug references.
Hey Jimmy, I watched fight quest and human weapon when I was younger. Did you ever watch a Swedish fight show called "Rallarsving"? They went around training and sparring with people like Rutten, Hoost, Joe Riggs etc all over the world. Highly recommended!
Thiago Silva came to Pablo Popovichs jujitsu school in Ft Lauderdale with a gun threatening Pablo because some drama with his ex. There were students training at the time. A little more jujitsu related again Lloyd Irvin had all those sexual misconduct and rape allegations at his school where a bunch of notable MMA students had been training around that time.
Since you cover boxing if you ever do an evil in boxing episode you have to include James "The Harlem Hammer" Butler who murdered Max Kellerman's brother with a hammer.
Let out a huge oof at Travis Fulton. He really makes me sad. I will say, some of his fights are STRONGLY suspected of being fixed. There's videos up on it that are pretty convincing. I'm not saying he never fought a clean fight. But his numbers seems to be wildly inflated due to that.
My girlfriend was around Travis Fulton a lot when she was in high school, and she said he was trying to sleep with every high school girl he could. So when all the stuff came out about him, she was surprised it took so long for it to become public.
Did Jimmy call Maiquel Falcão's fights in Bellator? He was garbage person too, loved beating up random people in nightclubs (women too). Ended up getting murdered couple years ago.
Just watched that Cameron match against Marcelo the other night. He was very impressive in that budo tournament! I was surprised I had never come across him before. Maybe 🤔 because of this?
I heard a story years ago that Rico Rodriguez was out all night partying with his girlfriend. He was driving home trashed, got into a car accident in which she died. Apparently he took her body out of the passenger seat and put her in the drivers seat to make it look like she was driving. I was told this by a pro fighter that i believe, but i have never been able to substantiate this. Anyone else hear this story?
Please do the opposite of this video. Good in MMA. Poirier and the good fight foundation. The community outreach that Justin Gaethje does. I even heard that Colby Covington is quite the philanthropist.
Holy SHIT I didn't know that about Travis Fulton. F. That's horrible. I remember talking about that dude like 16 years ago. Insane that things could go that off the rails.
@@zakhriskin1602 naa, they are solid. It's someone DC tried to mentor but dude is just a criminal. A one dimensional bellator wrestler. Dude looks like a criminal more than Pena. See if you can figure it out.
@@violentbobross155 well if thats the case then I wish you luck in the future man, you were one my favorite mma fighters to watch hope to see you in the ufc again hopefully
Thats fucking crazy about Fulton. I remember those days when you could go fight a couple of fights on Friday night and make a little beer money for the weekend. Aren't gonna be guys like Horn any more.
i remember a lil of that luis pena story. sucks. seemed like a nice dude. the 'violent' part of that bob ross moniker was just the mma part, cuz the rest of him seemed like a bob ross, calm and mellow.
Jimmy Smith: yeah I knew this fighter one time that did some really bad stuff! YT Commenters: what about this guy you don't know? Dana White: Jon Jones is the baddest man on the planet!
I meet evil people all the time. I shun them and do not be around them. I like good people, people with integrity. I know there are many people like that in MMA. I want to read and hear about those people.
@@jack11643 i was talking about Jones being valuable enough. And if you're saying that you'd listen to Jones any day, then all I can do is shake my head.
Im calling it now violent bob ross will be in these comments soon enough. Anytime i see anyone bring up his out of the ring stuff, he feels the need to defend himself and claim hes innocent
Yo Jimmy! Question: What's the most evil martial art throughout history? I think of Hawaii, but id like to know what you think! No weapons, strictly hand to hand, clothing included. *edit* Also I've met a few fighters in San Diego, awesome dudes... ...but most certainly dangerous and absolutely wild. Some would say they're bad, considering some extra curriculars... ay, the hurt business attracts all kinds, BUT, interesting genuine and overall good human beings nonetheless.
So glad you mentioned Travis Fulton. He and I had a lot of mutual acquaintances and that guy was the epitome of human garbage.
Yeah I remember reading about Fulton and coming away feeling dirty ..
@@brianmeen2158please provide your sources
I trespassed a dude who fought well until all the bouncers got to him named Travis Fulton. I can't remember what he looked like. I'm going to check the birthdate, the club keeps all those records.
@@dustinb1070 Did you check it out.?
Did he mention Ari Emanuel?
I'm balls deep in MMA so i know about most of these incidents, being a fan of MMA this is the stuff that's hard to talk about, I love and respect fighters so much that you almost don't want any of them to take that dark path, but that's the world we live in, evil everywhere. Good stuff man.
Love this stuff Jimmy!!!!!!!
Well that's weird
I agree. Jimmy is underrated. ✊🏾💪🏾
I’m so glad you made a second video on this topic nobody ever talks about
How about you do “Good In MMA: Some of the best people Jimmy Smith met in MMA.”
Love story time videos, keep up the good work.
Love yer content Jimmy! I wish you could have included Rousamar Polaharas (sp?) as an honorable mention. He was notoriously known for not letting go of a submission after they tapped... Dana actually fired him for that exact reason. I was ecstatic when Alan Belcher beat him. He was a real pos fighter.
This is a series.
@trollof229antthevariable9 Yeah, I know... I've seen them all
I could tell a laundry list of stories about War Machine. He was teaching the MMA classes
At my gym, one day the manager asked me why I didn’t do the MMA classes, Machine was teaching at that exact moment, I just looked over and we watched for like 30 seconds, all I replied was “with that guy?” Laughed and went back to my solo workout. He knew exactly what I meant. Besides that fact that his favorite exercise was 100 burpees…..him consistently assaulting anyone near the gym acting up, or he felt he had a reason to, that was always entertaining
This is dope 🎉 Jimmy is underrated 👌
Isn't he from that old show on Nat Geo(I think), where him and his buddy would travel the globe doing different martial arts? I remember they fought a style in California that only gave you 6 seconds on the ground. He was subbiming them within the six seconds.
Strange how mma has crazy violent people 😂I would never have thought that
This is the content we want!
I love this type of content, I'd love to hear about old gym wars, rumours, fall outs etc from bk in the day
Jimmy. I am the absolute peak of the casual mma fan. Been obsessed for years now and watch mma news everyday. There is a massive place for mma news and stories like this + recaps and interviews with predictions for fights. There’s so many alright ones out there but all of them have parts that are annoying, out of touch or boring. I really think you could have a massive channel if you do this properly. Probably the most authentic, interesting and humble guys doing it and I know for a fact you have no haters and nothing but respect in the industry. Hope you can keep it up and really make a career out of this stuff. I will be watching closely!
The realist, most accurate, down to earth, non arrogant mma analyst we got. UFC dropped the ball get this man a job back at front desk. Why the fuck am I listening to Dominick Cruz the most cringe announcer ever ….
Cruz and DC have GOT TO GO... Stan, felder, Jimmy, are all great...
@@Saidwhatyourethinking tell me about it bro!!!!! I have to admit I started liking dc. But wtf happened to Mike Goldberg he got me so pumped when a knockout happened. Cruz is an idiot. Even Joe Rogan is irritating me lately. Someone is smashingfrom full guard. And then Joe “watch out mannnn he’s a juijitsu blackbelt get outta there!!”
Anik is horrible.
@jbevolve2024 better than goldberg..
@Buddyguy1988 Goldberg was fired for leaking information to the most hated (also banned) media member Ariel helwanni... they were apparently trying to keep the date a secret when conor was coming back years ago and goldy apparently leaked it to Ariel who of course immediately went on his podcast and shared the info before the ufc could.. goldy being fired was 100% justified regardless of the popular narrative that they did him dirty.. he not only leaked info but of all the people to leak it to, he chose Ariel who dana and tons of fighters HATE..
Gumby" Jeremy Horn man i havent heard that name for awhile but i did used to like watching him fight & he does have some big name wins on his resume as well as some big losses
If i remember right he went 3-0 in a trilogy with Cheal Sonnen & had a win over Chuck Liddel, i remember him losing to Anderson S. thanks for bringing him up Jimmy im going to go down that rabbithole this weekend 🙌
Impossible because chael never lost a round in his career. He did beat chuck though but it was early in his career and then got destroyed in the rematch.
@@byah160😂 I stand corrected the Man with the biggest arms, most charm and does the most harm straight from the tough streets of West Linn Oregon, The American Gangster himself Chael P. Sonnen is undefeated & undisputed. 🙌🤝love Chael 💪
Wow, I dont know how the algorithms got me here but this is crazy…. Trip down memory lane. I remember first watching you on fight quest back in the day and showed everyone the kyokushin episode because no one knew what I was referring to when I said I trained it. Are you still actively training ? I hope all is well. Osu!
Jeremy Horn was a dog.. He fought underground MMA fights back in my home of Atlanta, Georgia..
@@AaronOverEverythingAgreed 👍 I'd love to see some of those old Ga fights.
But yeah hell of a fighter and pioneer who's name IMO deserves more recognition 🙌
God, I forgot about Jeremy Jackson. Man he was fucking good back in the early 2000's
For what its worth Jimmy you were my favourite UFC commentator and i was very disappointed to see you go
42 fights in a year is speed running CTE lol
I've been loving your videos. Keep up the great work!
It's disturbing, but informative and interesting. I think many MMA intertwined themes are good content like evil in MMA. Perhaps, also a counter like Great people in MMA.
Omg thats nightmare fuel. Having a world class grappler break into your house to sexually asault you is just too much to contemplate.
Bedside Glock and a fixed blade. A German Shepherd at the end of the bed. Alarms and cameras. Don't care how good a grappler you are, Double 00 at three feet ends the kung fool. They're great athletes, they're not superhuman.
Awesome video. I have never before watched ur content but this really made me subscribe
You are better than the current Raw Play by Play.
Hope you get back into Combat Sports or Wrestling again man.
I think he may be commentating for Bellator again??
Imo Jimmy is the closest to an OG old school Joe Rogan.
In terms of technical breakdown and that ability to commentate It like a friend in a party not a robot
He still does commentary and hosting for Probox tv
Fulton had a previous charge with a similar context about 10 years prior, he beat the case
Was unaware of that, good info man
Jimmy popping up with some criminal stories. Gotta love it ^_~ 💪😎👆
Someone who is not only trained but extremely high level and has evil intentions might be the scariest person ever.
Good stuff, Jimmy….I will watch your stuff from now on!
Love these
Love your style of communication Brother. Appreciate the insight
Jeremy Jackson got tossed off TUF for leaving the house.
The whole idea that the UFC lets people go for domestic battery is priceles. if that domestic batterer makes the company money or, in fact, runs the company, no problem
That’s all businesses though. Look at the nfl - it is full of criminals that play every week. That is if they are good enough and bring in the cash .
what on earth are you talking about? Are you faulting dana for being slapped and slapping someone lightly back? You are an awful person and most likely an actual creep if you have to imagine the worst of people to elevate your own pathetic ass.
Great job Jimmy! I have always been a fan, even thru the wwe days. Lol
Keep it up bro. I really like the content and think the best is yet to come. I doubt you will ever read this specific post, but if you do, feel free to reach out. I do content reviews for content creators. Mainly combat sports. Again, great job so far and I really think this could be your future. Maybe a Joe Rogan type but without so much drug references.
Very interesting information jimmy. Good job
Just came across your channel. Very happy I did!
Hey Jimmy, I watched fight quest and human weapon when I was younger. Did you ever watch a Swedish fight show called "Rallarsving"? They went around training and sparring with people like Rutten, Hoost, Joe Riggs etc all over the world. Highly recommended!
Good stuff Jimmy. Interesting stories.
Bahahaha! Calling Shannon Ritch a 'fighter' is hilarious.
CTE may be the cause of a lot of dark behaviors.
Thiago Silva came to Pablo Popovichs jujitsu school in Ft Lauderdale with a gun threatening Pablo because some drama with his ex. There were students training at the time. A little more jujitsu related again Lloyd Irvin had all those sexual misconduct and rape allegations at his school where a bunch of notable MMA students had been training around that time.
Thiago Silva one blows my mind. Broward county is tough on crime. Somehow, those charges got dropped.
@@thecrow1348 from what I heard from some of the students Pablo was there but hid in the back office. The school closed not long after.
Popsnitch was messing with peoples wives
Since you cover boxing if you ever do an evil in boxing episode you have to include James "The Harlem Hammer" Butler who murdered Max Kellerman's brother with a hammer.
Fucked up story.
Very sad how evil people take advantage of naive bleeding hearts.
Dang. Never heard of that one!
Looking forward to when you do a future part and feature Jon Jones.
Great stuff jimmy
Let out a huge oof at Travis Fulton. He really makes me sad. I will say, some of his fights are STRONGLY suspected of being fixed. There's videos up on it that are pretty convincing. I'm not saying he never fought a clean fight. But his numbers seems to be wildly inflated due to that.
They should CT scan these guys on the regular, that would help with identifying who is at risk etc..
My girlfriend was around Travis Fulton a lot when she was in high school, and she said he was trying to sleep with every high school girl he could. So when all the stuff came out about him, she was surprised it took so long for it to become public.
Did Jimmy call Maiquel Falcão's fights in Bellator? He was garbage person too, loved beating up random people in nightclubs (women too). Ended up getting murdered couple years ago.
You are 100% correct!!
Didn’t Falcao start a fight at a gas station and guys took a bat out and beat him and his buddy up pretty badly? I think the footage is on RUclips
@@brianmeen2158 yeah, his buddy was also a muay thai fighter and almost died.
Video idea for worst Bellator fighters you ever seen compete.
Wild - and something to think about
Just watched that Cameron match against Marcelo the other night. He was very impressive in that budo tournament! I was surprised I had never come across him before. Maybe 🤔 because of this?
Saw that recently as well!! Turbo match
Holy shit, I had no idea about Travis Fulton. That's fucked up.
Violent assault Bob Ross
Jimmy get some neon behind you bud it’ll make your shit pop
I heard a story years ago that Rico Rodriguez was out all night partying with his girlfriend. He was driving home trashed, got into a car accident in which she died. Apparently he took her body out of the passenger seat and put her in the drivers seat to make it look like she was driving. I was told this by a pro fighter that i believe, but i have never been able to substantiate this. Anyone else hear this story?
I remember and yes, that really happened.
I remember something similar. He I think talked about this on celebrity rehab back in the day .. btw where is Ricco these days?!
$1000??? In Iowa during Fulton and Horn times? No chance. But, he was able to fight guys who were 3 and 42….
Alright! Time to hear some Dana White stories!
Jimmy is the man.
I hope you will discuss also the best Southpaw in MMA and Boxing
Please do the opposite of this video. Good in MMA. Poirier and the good fight foundation. The community outreach that Justin Gaethje does. I even heard that Colby Covington is quite the philanthropist.
Colby is an asshole, an idiot, but certainly not evil. There is a difference or a nuance should i say.
There are instructors out there equally accountable for those crimes. Those people should never have been taught martial arts.
Sad to say, but BJ Penn will be on this list. He is also who inspired me to start training.
What did penn do?
Holy SHIT I didn't know that about Travis Fulton. F. That's horrible. I remember talking about that dude like 16 years ago. Insane that things could go that off the rails.
Yoooo brother !
Hate seeing violent Bob Ross go down the wrong paths
He flat out looks like a criminal. Not a shocker.
@@glenshort6567 crazy thing is he was training partners with a much worse human who has somehow avoided the spotlight
@@AbettergrapplerHe used to train with Khabib and D.C, hope you don't mean them hehe 💪💪
@@zakhriskin1602 naa, they are solid. It's someone DC tried to mentor but dude is just a criminal. A one dimensional bellator wrestler. Dude looks like a criminal more than Pena. See if you can figure it out.
I knew from the first time I saw him and heard him speak something was off about him.. just got the vibe..
Jimmy you're the man!
Luis Pena I used to love watching, sad to see what happened to him and what he turned into or actually was behind closed doors
Eloborate pleae?
I was completely exonerated of all charges, it’s tasteless that jimmy would compare me to murderers and rapists
@@violentbobross155 well if thats the case then I wish you luck in the future man, you were one my favorite mma fighters to watch hope to see you in the ufc again hopefully
@@amidtheruins02 I appreciate that man thank you
@@violentbobross155 well if thats true good luck
Dude's way better than Dominik Cruz for sure when it comes to commentary. Sucks UFC discarded him
Thats fucking crazy about Fulton. I remember those days when you could go fight a couple of fights on Friday night and make a little beer money for the weekend. Aren't gonna be guys like Horn any more.
I hereby nominate Jimmy Smith as the preeminent historian for the sport of MMA.
Heard Joe got him cut
Cause he got Joe in a choke hold
In a bjj role
Rogan?
Have you heard Gabe Ruedigers interview on the lytes out podcast? He talks about this situation and adds a few more interesting tidbits
Which situation ?
i remember a lil of that luis pena story.
sucks. seemed like a nice dude. the 'violent' part of that bob ross moniker was just the mma part, cuz the rest of him seemed like a bob ross, calm and mellow.
It’s hard to accept Shannon Ritch being said in the same sentence as Jeremy Horn
Hey brotha!
Jimmy bro, Peña beat the case, that girl was lying. That case was dropped.
Jimmy Smith: yeah I knew this fighter one time that did some really bad stuff!
YT Commenters: what about this guy you don't know?
Dana White: Jon Jones is the baddest man on the planet!
I meet evil people all the time. I shun them and do not be around them. I like good people, people with integrity. I know there are many people like that in MMA. I want to read and hear about those people.
You have a good channel. 👍
Pete Williams face kicked Coleman “the father of ground and pound” into oblivion.
Danny Z still has a lump on his thigh from your muy thai leg kick
When it comes to MMA… Don’t forget to use a Jimmy! 😂
George Foreman fought 5 guys in one day on wide world of sports ABC. i bet something can be worked out to be able to fight more than once a day
Thought Mario Bautista was gonna be number 1 for what he did to Aldo
Luis Pena just resigned with the UFC
Also Hermes Franca
I forgot about him!!! Good call!
Love that you gave matt serra his flowers...
You left out Jon Jones! And major promotions will have you if you're valuable enough.
If he's valuable enough? I'll listen to him ANYDAY over that clown Rogan
@@jack11643 i was talking about Jones being valuable enough. And if you're saying that you'd listen to Jones any day, then all I can do is shake my head.
Haven't watched the video yet but I wonder if he covers Junie Browning. He did some crazy shit in Thailand.
Violent Bob Ross shocked everyone
The happy cloud painter?
I wonder if these guys are affected by brain trauma?
Do Mike Perry next!
Why??
How could you make an evil fighters list & not include Jarod Wyatt? He puts every evil fighter you talked about to shame
What’s the story on him?
@@leftlegtrumpcard8152 it involves psilocybin mushrooms,the human heart, and a rusty pair of scissors. Read the story at your own risk.
Im calling it now violent bob ross will be in these comments soon enough. Anytime i see anyone bring up his out of the ring stuff, he feels the need to defend himself and claim hes innocent
He could be
Just saw it
Just started watching , but I'll perdict Rico Rodriguez?
Luis Pena's case was dismissed over a year before this video was made. You should probably correct the record, he's an innocent man falsely accused
Fulton not only had 320 mma fights, but he also had 75 pro boxing fights. He fought 13 days after braking his hand in a fight.
With 90% of them being set up
Nah Matt Hughes was abusive to his wife even before the train accident
True true. Just read his book. He was a garbage human being. The name of the train was called Kharmatic Justice.
This is starting to sound like a bunch of gossiping teenage girls.
Not violent Bob Ross!
Yessss !
Yo Jimmy! Question:
What's the most evil martial art throughout history? I think of Hawaii, but id like to know what you think! No weapons, strictly hand to hand, clothing included.
*edit*
Also I've met a few fighters in San Diego, awesome dudes... ...but most certainly dangerous and absolutely wild. Some would say they're bad, considering some extra curriculars... ay, the hurt business attracts all kinds, BUT, interesting genuine and overall good human beings nonetheless.
Ali Abdelaziz
About Fulton ..... With 300+ fights how are you STILL "not that good"? I mean my Lord you'd think you'd be so polished with that many fights...