Thanks for all the love on this video! Also I’m loving all the opinions I’ve been dying to chat with you guys about this one. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS MOVIE??! Update: …this video just got partially blocked and demonetized due to copyright. Damn…..I spent hours and hours and hours on this. Super frustrating.
You still have 2 Halloween movies to review. Not III. Rob Zombie rebooted the franchise for 2 movies worth of story. Danielle Harris, the girl who plays Jamie, Laurie's Daughter in 4, 5 & 6 plays Annie, making her a 5 time Halloween alumni. I'm sure if you've heard anything about it, you've heard the negatives, as is the popular modern dismissal technique, but for my official Top 3 rankings, it goes Halloween, Rob Zombie's H2, Rob Zombie's Halloween! It's due for a resurgence. It'll happen. I'm curious to know your thoughts. I like how they portray Myers' psychosis, especially in part II.
@@Nicolas.Vincent I actually grew up watching the two Rob Zombie remakes funny enough! So I've seen those (even though there's quite a bit I don't remember)! :) That's why I never made reactions to them. I think I will down the line but wanted to keep this series pure by only seeing the franchise films I never saw.
@@ScaredPale Ah, OK! I'll have to come along with you in your Nightmare reactions. I think I've only screened up to part 5, and I'm sure I've seen bits and bites of the others here and there, but never from beginning to end. In fact, the last time I did screen a Nightmare movie was on VHS. No local shops had all of them, so a buddy of mine and I ended up calling all over the city to track them down in release order, but my buddy got tired of doing that and he gave up on me 😭 I wonder if you're all up to date with the Friday franchise? Hands down my favourite of the big 3 Slashers. I greatly favour a sympathetic Slasher, and my growing boy Jason is one of the greatest! 🪓 I need the pain of a Voorhees, or a grief stricken Pumpkinhead or the ultimate sympathetic Slasher Candyman 🐝🚽 I don't like how rude Freddy is. Candyman's a straight Gentleman! But anyway 😂 yeah, if you keep uploading reactions, I'll keep up with them. I really enjoy your take and perspective. Keep 'em coming! I'll keep watching!!
As a Halloween fanatic since my childhood, I GET the frustration with this one. It’s definitely a lousy finale to a long-running saga. But! I dig it 😅 Idk what it is, I just love the vibes, Corey’s character arc, the expanded characterizations of Laurie and Allyson, the little world-building details sprinkled throughout, and the whole Christine-esque element. I kinda wish they’d saved this kind of experimentation for a reboot, but I appreciate them trying something so different anyway, lol!
John Carpenter originally intended to make a comeback in the 1980’s with a 4th Halloween. The intention was to show how Michael affected Haddonfield, in the years following his death in part 2. I can’t recall if there was a apparition version of Michael to add to it. Carpenter used quite a bit of his part 4 treatment in this film. Such as the woman that confronts Laurie outside the supermarket. The film once again plays a composite of former canon sequels. Even a nod to Halloween III with the opening credits.
@Lialexen Again he had nothing to do with filming, and yes he suggested doing this or that, and they would take that into consideration. Like in the 2018 movie they wanted to do that flashback to 78 to show him getting caught, he told them no you would piss of the hardcore fans, so they waited and did it in Kills. He gave them ideas but was not involved in making the film.
I liked this movie a lot. I think the Corey storyline would have worked better as a part of a series. Would have had way more time to flesh it out. But I recommend reading the novelization of Ends. It really adds a lot to the movie.
@@ScaredPale yup! There was one for Kills too but from what I’ve heard the one for Ends adds a lot more to the story than Kills’ did. I got mine for like less than $10 or so, so it’s relatively cheap if it’s something you’re interested in :)
the pumpkin is Kills represented the movies in the franchise, 12 pumpkins for the 12 movies. Laurie also says in the opening monologue " people began coming up with their own answers" so the writing isnt the problem when the characters behave as the monologue suugests and they're making up their own answers
My favourite moment in the whole movie is right after Corey and Michael kill the doctor and nurse in the doctor's home, it cuts from the two of them in the house to a shot of Corey on his motorcycle with someone riding on the back seat, it made me so happy to think it was him and Michael riding together before it cuts to the closeup revealing it to be Allyson riding on the back instead.
this is better than most of the Halloween sequeles form the 80s and 90s and I kinda like the idea they went with but they hyped it up as a movie about the big final battle between Laurie and Michael and that's not the movie they made.
@@jonbolton3376 I always thought of this series as having especially bad sequels compared to Nightmare on Elm Street or Friday the 13th, but after thinking about it, I do enjoy most of them (other than 5, 6 and Resurrection) .
@@jonbolton3376 Agreed. Halloween 2 and 4 are among my favorites. I was also one of the few that like The Curse Of Michael Myers. Paul Rudd was an awesome Tommy Doyle. I think that film just scared a bunch of folks. Lol.
Don't worry there at least 2 more Halloween movies being talked about right now, and a TV series coming soon. No way this was actually the end of this franchise.
i like that they tried something different, and it is an interesting idea how evil can infect a town after its passed. not sure how well they pulled it off, but i imagine whenever the next halloween movie comes around it'll be back to Michael slashing. did you catch where they recreated the lady yells at cat meme?
You did catch a good amount of the themes and ideas in this though, a lot of people were openly mad about ends because they weren't smart enough to get the point
Hi! I have watched all your videos of first time watching a halloween movie and I was missing the video about this movie and I have to say very good as usual. At first i didn't like the movie but then I rewathed it better
Like you i avoided all spoilers, same as always i intentionally avoided cinemas, each time i need to smoke i miss 5 minutes lol. I prefer to watch in comfort in bed with beer and cigs.
You speak of this being the end of my favourite franchise. I certainly hope not, just this trilogy. I'm optimistic we will see more of Michael probably in other timelines, my personal hope is a new sequel to Halloween 4, starring Danielle Harris as she is now. I do love Halloween 5, but most fans agree it had one or two issues, mostly caused by the director lol.
I genuinely think this one had a lot of very interesting thoughts and ideas, just not for the last one. And also, Laurie clearly says at the beginning that since Michael's return, the town has changed, its got darker, less trusting, suspicious, thats why the towns folks have turned so dark and bitter. Its a cool idea, the town went through mob mentality during the second, and now they are living with grief and fear.
I just want to write that my name is Josh and i want to write that on Sunday March 12, 2023 Jamie Lee Curtis won the oscar for best supporting actress for her role in the film Everything Everywhere All at once.. Jamie Lee Curtis is now an oscar winner..
I just want to write that my name is Josh and i want to write that Jamie Lee Curtis has finally been nominated for an academy award for the first time for the 95th academy awards on March 12, 2023.
How I look at this trilogy it is more than about Laurie vs Michael but the town of Haddonfield dealing with trauma and healing from it along with how Michael's evil spreads around like a disease affecting those around him like with Dr. Sartain in H18, the town in Kills, and now with Corey in Ends. This movie sends a positive message on trauma healing. I look at Ends as the epilogue to H18/Kill or the effect to H18/Kills cause. I also love how it pays respect on what John Carpenter wanted the series to be with focusing on different stories centered around Halloween and we got majority of that. How I interpret Corey and Michael is that Michael is getting older and his body went through a good amount of damage in both H18 and especially Kills, his home got demolished which was his goal to begin with hence why he’s living in a sewer but he has won because the entire town of Haddonfield is even more traumatized and afraid because of his 2018 mayhem. However, his body is rotting away in the sewers and the evil inside Michael needs a new vessel and looking into Corey’s eyes seeing the trauma he went through and himself which then the evil in Michael transfers itself to Corey, its power waking up the buried hate inside Corey. The opening intro with the jack o lanterns foreshadows that Evil doesn’t die but changes shape. Overall, I love this trilogy and Ends is my favorite out of the three and my 2nd favorite in the series and it ended the Laurie vs Michael saga on a satisfying note for me. You mentioning a what if with Lindsey being the main character makes me want to see that happen lol
cool reaction and review Sydney ( : I really like your enthusiasm and in depth discussions, and heyy, i'm looking forward to your A Nightmare On Elm Street series reactions, and if your gonna watch those, you should really watch 'Freddy Vs Jason' (2003) as well....and to go a long with that before you get to FvJ you should watch the Friday The 13th series, at least the first 8 films that all came out in the 1980s, it will make 'Freddy Vs Jason' much more enjoyable and the call backs in the movie will make a lot more since........cheers - Fred Krueger
I saw the 1st Halloween at 7 yro in the theater in '78. MICHAEL MYERS BLEW UP AT END OF HALLOWEEN 2! END OF STORY, & FUK ALLL THE REST!!! Now if Myers actually got a hold of Jamie Lee Curtis, tortured her to death, revived her & did it again over & over & over again, it MAY actually be worth it to go see another "Halloween"?!😅 🤘🌎❤
Halloween Ends is two different movies combined together and it didn't work! 90 percent of the movie was pointless because of what they did with Corey and the other 10 percent was underwhelming! Really wonder if they will ever release all the other endings!
Thought it was well made, but a HORRIBLE halloween film. Supposed to be the last chapter of Laurie and Michael we get 90% of this film with a kid who is evil, 10 mins of myers who looked more feeble/fragile then a 90 year old cancer patient that weighed 50 pounds. I swear DGG is Bi-polar, 2018 they said they wanted to make it more grounded and took away his supernatural edge, just a man who can take an incredible amounts of damage, then ends they gave him back that edge, with laurie's dialogue at the end, and the damage he was able to survive without a limp. Hell he was in a house on fire and the smoke would kill any living creature in a min or so, he was in there for what, 6-10 mins at least while the fire dept got there. Please don't say that gate kept the smoke out those gates are not air tight. Then in ends we get a normal guy? Getting pushed around by a nerd who takes his mask? lol Tonally they did a 360 with myers from 2018 to ends. I feel like blumhouse had these grand ideas for kills, and ends but not the film making skills to pull them off. Funny I think 2018 and ends are better made films then kills, but I had the most fun with kills. Here's to hoping that the next studio to get the rights are competent, and understand the character better.
My biggest wish for the ending of Halloween Kills, would’ve been for Ash Williams and other survivors from other franchises showing up. Ash would say to her: “Hey lady, I heard that you have a psychotic killer loose in your town. We’re here to help.” Just a pipe dream lol
It's a low bar but this is my favorite of the trilogy since I surprisingly like the Corey storyline (mostly), but the writing for all three was pretty fucking shocking lol.
@Scared Pale yeah I can appreciate them trying something different, but this wasn't the right time to get weird with it lol. Whenever I'm in the mood for these movies, I'll stick with the first seven and even the Rob Zombie movies.
The best way to keep the Corey storyline, but in a slightly better way, is to have Corey not actually kill anyone, but instead stand by and LET Michael kill people because of how badly the town treated him over an, albeit horrible, accident. It would have been a much better commentary on the people who go to these films to watch characters get killed and then the scene where Corey eventually tries to stop Michael from picking up the knife would have felt more impactful.
I think we’ve gotten so lucky as fans to have this new Halloween trilogy and I’m so grateful for it. I don’t like Kills all that much but still. However, Halloween, Halloween 2 and Halloween H20 is still the superior timeline for me and I think the ending H20 provided with the head chop was far more effective as a finale. Of course, Resurrection happened but I don’t even acknowledge it as a sequel to H20 tbh. Nope. Absolutely not.
Love this movie. The message is that evil changes shape and how it spreads. How evil can affect us as a person and community. '78 made Laurie into a person full of fear and she channeled that into preparing for Michael's return. Halloween Kills turned Haddonfield into what Laurie was in '18. A community full of fear and people channeled that in different ways, placing blame on others, committing acts of violence, etc.
Yeah... this film is SO bad! I know it pissed off alot of fans. What kills me the most is that the premise of the reboot was to show that Michael was not supernaturally invincible... and at the end of Halloween Kills they literally made him invincible! It was just an excuse to erase the second original movie along with the rest and they gave this one that woke kind of feel with a lackluster toxic relationship with Cory and the grand daughter. It was just to over the place with the plot. I feel how so many people wanted this 3rd movie in the series to be redone. I did want to see what you thought about it though. So with that being said, Great Review!!
This movie makes me more angry every time I watch it. There’s good moments in it for sure but the route they took and the way they just did Michael dirty rubbed me the wrong way. Also as far as plot goes it seems like a complete rip off of “Christine” 🤦♂️
@@ScaredPale yesss! I sat in the theater watching this and just couldn’t help but compare Arnie and Corey the entire time and it just felt like a rip off idk. Jamie deserved her send-off, she’s amazing. But it just felt like a spit in the face of a Michael (who made the franchise what it is).
There are some actually very interesting concepts in this movie and I genuinely enjoyed a few scenes but... the overall execution of these ideas is horrible imo. I have a lot of issues with this one but what bothers me the most is that a) it doesn't feel like a natural progression to the last one, b) Laurie and Allyson are acting so unlike the first 2 films, c) they decided to end this saga by introducing a new character that wasn't in any of the previous ones, give him all the screen time and kill him off even before the end. I actually like the idea of someone being obsessed with Michael and what he stands for but it feels super forced and unbelievable how they did it. Same goes for the love story between Allyson and Corey. I guess you could give them credit for trying something new but... did they? The 2018 movie took the concept of the original and combined it with H20, HKills combined Halloween 2 and Halloween 4 and finally Ends combines Halloween 3 with Christine. So... no, doesn't feel that creative to me. I enjoyed the previous ones because I think they had great tension, some tragic moments and perfectly captured what makes Myers scary. After Halloween Ends I left the cinema feeling kinda empty and dissapointed because this last one didn't feel much like a Halloween movie at all and had not much of what made the first 2 good.
The new trilogy was a big letdown. Halloween 2018 had potential, but the Sartain plot twist and the ill timed bad humor put a damper on it. Kills and Ends were both really bad. There were times watching Ends that I forgot it was a Halloween film.
Me personally when I first watched it I was very disappointed cause for months they made it seem like Laurie and Michael is about to have this very big showdown and whatever for only it to be like a 5min brawl if that and lack of Michael in this movie. What I did enjoy was that they can build a character who was just a normal person doing his job in order to make money and the next moment he's looked at as this monster by everybody which turns him into this cold hearted killer. I like that a lot that shows that somebody else can wear the mask or be the next Boogeyman besides it always being about Michael. And after rewatching it I enjoyed it very much granted it wasn't the best out of the trilogy but it was decent. If blumhouse does decides to continue it I hope that they keep Michael dead, if anything I feel like it should be an anthology and keep it pushing. Now for the anthology I feel like they should introduced some new characters and obviously a new killer and they can even mentioned something about Michael Myers and the things he did.
You found far more to enjoy in this movie than I did. I'm really glad I didn't see it in a theater because by the end I was just uncontollably shouting "Jesus, this movie is terrible!" at my tv like it was my new mantra or something. Could not get over it. The paper thin characters, the tired melodrama, the inexplicable psycho killer bromance ... what a bizarre trainwreck. On the "this isn't about you, Laurie" note: what're the odds Michael's brand new protege would just so happen to wind up romantically involved with her granddaughter? Of all the people in Haddonfield? And he didn't like, meet Michael, get possessed by "Evil" then search her out to get to Laurie or anything. It was all just happenstance. Or "fate" or whatever. This trilogy clearly had no idea what it wanted to do or say in that regard. Just such a puzzling mess from beginning to end. If they ever make another one of these, I hope they go back to the OG chronology. Get real weird with it and bring back the Cult of Thorn! Hell, see if Paul Rudd and Danielle Harris will do it. Never happen, but it'd be more fun than Ends was.
@@ScaredPale More will be made, they said Laurie's story is over we'll never see her again, but michael will be back in a soft reboot. Blumhouse still doesn't know if they will get the rights back, here's to hoping someone else gets it. They said the franchise is going on the back burner for several years So we probably won't see anything until the end of the decade.
@@clintmorrison5863 They are going to make more. Blumhouse said the rights went back to the the rights holder and they don't know whether they will get them back or not, but the plan is to make more with Myers and that supposedly this is the end of Laurie's story we'll never see her again. They also said it will be several years until a new one as burnout for the fans is a real thing, so expect new movies around 2028-2031.
I hate this movie so much. Yes, they tried "something new" with this installment, and by "new" of course we mean ripping off movies OUTSIDE of the Halloween franchise: Christine, Friday the 13th Part V, A Nightmare on Elm Street 2, My Bodyguard, Boogie Nights, Vanishing Point, It, It: Chapter 2, and so on and so forth. Such a novel approach. One thing I did kind of accurately predict the filmmakers would do was rip off the unused screenplay for Halloween IV by Dennis Etchison. It picks up 10 years after Halloween 2, Dr Loomis and Michael are dead, but Michael kind of lives on as an evil specter infecting the hearts and minds of the people of Haddonfield. It's a good screenplay, but of course DGG and DM managed to F that up as well.
@@ScaredPale LOL Ok, I might have pulled THAT one out of thin air. But then again there's that whole weird thing going on between Corey and his mom. Similar but less explicit and more inferred to in Boogie Nights between Eddie and his mom. Maybe Corey became a killer because he has mother issues? He's such a complex character.
"Why is he talking like Batman all of a sudden" -Sydney. haha that was funny, nice reaction and breakdown I like your beanie and nice new couch. Personally, as a huge Halloween fan I felt this movie was blah, the Corey stuff distracted from Michael and they treated him like a normal human in this movie where every other timeline and even the past two movies of this trilogy timeline he was more supernatural, this one the only thing we saw that would hint that is the transferring his power of evil into Corey and Michael seeing his memories, weird... Felt like they wanted to end this timeline with Laurie on top while hinting at the concept of "evil comes in different forms" yet they decided to make Michael more human in this movie yet still try to keep that supernatural element which imo doesn't work, it's one or the other not maybe yes, maybe no. You saw Kills he was unkillable pretty much, this one a kid takes him down and steals his mask..just annoyed me lol. I think the next time we see Halloween again it'll be a full out reboot/remake, they need to make him supernatural metahuman again, hell i'd even give him a healing regeneration factor since the original Michael pretty much had that with all he tanked getting shot, impaled, burnt, run over, shot over balconies, electrocuted etc etc and not dying. This one he gets stabbed and throat cut and dies lol...after getting shot, stabbed, run over etc in the last few movies. Like you said. I don't think David Gordon Greene knows what Michael is, one movie he made him supernatural, unbeatable the next a human...it's stupid lol. The Corey stuff should have been a separate entity or short lived if anything. The movie also as you and many others mentioned has very little Michael Myers time which for a last finishing movie is one of the dumbest ideas they could have done. This movie was one of the worst Halloweens up there with Resurrection and Zombie's H2 as far as I'm concerned lol. Hey hope you react to the Child's Play series next, I think you'll have a lot of fun with Chucky if you haven't seen them of course.
I’ve seen most of the Chucky films, particularly I’ve seen Bride of Chucky 100 times from vhs as a kid. Bu I may revisit them for the channel!! Love Brad Dourif
@@ScaredPale Yeah Brad is awesome, I feel bad for the future Chucky when they reboot that series (not the A.I. version) but the oldschool Chucky story for whoever has to step into those shoes lol. It's going to be like the Nightmare remake where everyone was constantly comparing Jackie Earle Haley to Robert Englund lol. Ahh ok I couldn't remember if you saw them or not, I gotcha. Oh wow so you saw Bride a kid, see me I'm a little older haha I first saw chucky with the first movie I was like 5 lol scared the hell out of me, like most 80's babies, he was also far more creepy and sinister, then they made him sillier and goofy so 90's and 2000's kids didn't find him scary like my generation of kids did. I'm sure you know what I mean though if you compared the first 3 movies to Bride, Seed etc My two fav slashers are Chucky and Michael, but Freddy is also funny. Never been into Jason like at all lol. Awesome, sounds awesome! Great reaction and breakdown!
@@MKF30 Honestly I've never been into Jason either. I've seen parts of the movies and am just so uninterested. From what I know about them they seem so formulaic and rely on kills where I prefer to have some sort of plot pushing me along with motives and character development, But that's me judging pretty hard considering I've never really seen them
@@ScaredPale Yeah I always saw Jason as a Michael knockoff to be honest, I mean Michael was the first supernatural slasher, stalks, disappears, reappears, wears a white mask, never dies etc etc lol. Jason also supernatural slasher, stalks, disappears and reappears, wears a hockey mask, never dies etc etc lol. I much prefer Myers for many reasons over Jason if I had to pick that slasher archetype. The first few movies are also incredibly cheesy with the acting of the Friday the 13th series compared to the other slashers. He kills out of revenge for himself and his mommy lol. Kind of generic to be honest so you're not wrong lol.
I can't imagine that this film is any good. Halloween Kills was bad, too. The only good ones are the first 3, back in the 1970s and 1980s. Hi, Scared Pale... where have you been???
I’m here!!! It took me forever to edit this cause it was such a slog. Next up is Nightmare 3 which I’m excited about and I have an interview planned for next month too
Almost seems like its about the influence of Michael or the inspiration like with all these shooters over the decades you got some doin it then others that happened its because of those original ones then new ones happen and its still cause of original ones or its last ones its kind of scream like billy and Stu did their thing then second happened because of them each one after is because of the previous one or original funny you mentioned the outfit he's wearing he's wearing a engineer jumpsuit and his job is a engineer he wore that outfit earlier and she didn't think nothing about it it'd his uniform lol the mask could have been planted by Laurie for all she knew just cause he was found with it don't mean he brought it with him or used it lol
I knew you'd fall with the majority and not like this movie. While I don't agree with what they did with Cory, not even when they teased the same thing with Jamie Lloyd in Halloween 4, I did like Halloween Ends problems and all.
What would have made this work is to keep it simple. Laurie is out for blood after Michael killed her daughter. She has help from her grandaughter to do it. It all happens on the same night just as it was originally planned. The fact that they were forced to shut shit down because of covid screwed everything up. It gave them way too much time and they started to vastly overthink everything and tried to come up with this compelling narrative... but it fell SO flat and the way it was portrayed was SO bad. I will be pissed about this movie forever. We had 2 great movies and all they had to do was stick the landing and they crashed.
And I thought Halloween Kills would be the worst movie in this new trilogy... boy was I wrong. Michael just hanging out in a drainage pipe and eating rats for 4 years? WTF were David Gordon Green, Danny McBride, Paul Brad Logan and Chris Bernier thinking??? 😑
I mean to be fair Michael is like In his 60's or some shit they bulldozed his home so he can't go there and if he tries to walk around people will recognized a dude wearing a burnt mask and jumped suit.
this franchise isn't ending i know that because money talks and the franchise and michael myers is popular. i'm hoping for danielle harris' jamie lloyd returns because they did her character wrong in halloween 6
This movie not only shit on the characters that they built in the first 2 movies. It shit on all of the characters in general. I'm shocked that this movie has so many apologists. It's so bad in every way. I loved the first 2 movies. To the point that I legit felt offended by how bad this one was LOL!
I liked this movie a lot, but I think it's the perfect example of an original movie with an interestingl premise that feels completely wrong and unsatisfying because it's a part 3 in a trilogy that never set it up. This is why I'm not a fan of franchises. When you try something new it feels jarring and weird. This would have worked a LOT better as a standalone Halloween film.
Most movies especially horror movies especially horror movie sequels they have lots of one dimensional flat characters there just to die how is that any different than this movie so why hate and over criticize this but those are fine lol
Its funny you say why stay in the town where the trauma happened move then mentioned new scream yeah they moved but everyone knows what happened where they came from and blame that girl so they did move but it followed her there probably what they saying in this funny too you mention the possession thing that's a theme that's happened a few times in the franchise can evil be passed on especially if Michael dies would the evil pass on change shape they touch on it in four and rob zombies Halloween two and comics maybe others but I do like the exploration of that in this and really you can take that and go to other horror movies are all these movies connected by the evil consuming these people and the trauma they put on others surviving that attack and either they overcome their trauma and live or turn evil themselves lol like the narrative in this lol
Loved the tone. Loved the vibe. Loved the Corey story. Loved Allison, freakin' hot in this flick! Didn't give a shit about Grandmother Laurie. I didn't like...Hell, I hated Myers in this flick! First David Gordon Green states Myers isn't a supernatural killer, then he made Kills where Myers is without question, an Immortal. Pitchfork to the lungs, eh? Was he just joking? Could have chained him to the bottom of a lake at the end of Kills. Ends, old Decrepit Myers, gets actually beaten up by ol' hollow boned Grandmother Laurie, and like, slowly and gently bled? I liked the grinder, but only cause it was so gross 🤭 I hated Myers when he was getting his "quickening", in fact all the Corey/Myers scenes were so stupid! It actually looked stupid! How Myers learns Corey's past? So stupid! Just so stupid! All Corey/Myers scenes were almost offensive. I hated them. I feel like a No Myers Cut would have been a lot better. I prefer Myers in Resurrection more than in this. Good movie, terrible Halloween movie! I liked the movie, but I just hated Myers. For my No Myers Cut, Corey finds Myers in the sewer and he's basically all but dead already, dying and useless. Considering I thought the eye contact scene between the two of them was going to be like a body swap, I'd go with that concept, but Myers somehow just imbues Corey with his Power. The Shape is now inside of Corey. Corey cuts off Myers' head (or something definitive) and leaves Myers' body in the sewer. So Corey is out "Burning it Down" in his Scarecrow Mask and instead of Myer's and Corey out killing together, with Corey learning and Myers teaching, instead we see Corey teaching himself how to let The Shape take over, where recreating the knife pegged victim to the wall kill would make a lot more sense. In these 4 movie's timeline, that kill is in the 1st, H40 and Ends. It was tired when Myers does it in Ends, but if Corey did it himself, that would have been so much more meaningful. It would be his first time killing with Myers' signature kill. Corey could go back to the corpse of a rotting Myers after each kill, and after each kill, he loses more and more of himself and becomes more and more The Shape in the form of a Man. "If I can't have Alison, nobody can!" Are Corey's last spoken lines in this flick. By the time he goes to Laurie's house at the end, Corey sees himself in the Mirror and he is The Shape! We see he is The Shape and Laurie sees it too. They fight, Corey stabs himself in the throat, so no more voice. Alison gets there early and stomps Corey's neck for trying to kill her Grandmother. Corey is dead! We feel it's over, there is a poignant calm. The Police show up, take Grandmother and Alison to safety. We get a sense of relief. It feels over. The Shape gets up, Coroner's Van kill maybe? Then The Shape is fully born into Corey's body. We know it definitively. We can see it. Corey as The Shape ends up back in the sewer, sidling up beside the long rotting corpse of Myers, and we see Corey finally remove Myers' Shatner Mask. He drops his Scarecrow Mask and replaces it with Myers' Mask. We slow zoom into the eyes of The Shape. Halloween Ends! This would negate all the terrible Myers/Corey scenes. No "Quickening" scene looking like watching an old man who hasn't managed a full hard on for 20 years finally get there. No Father/Son murder tutorial nights. No little buddy scenes. Just Corey possessed of, or imbued with The Shape. I loved Alison's character anyway. Halloween Never Ends! 🔪🎃 You could even add a scene where Alison is pregnant at the end. They wouldn't have to come up with anymore bullshit excuses to get the two of them, or three of them together. But it would be hilarious to see a Masked Shape riding down the highway on a motorcycle instead of in a Station Wagon 😆
You talking about police reaction time in this reminds me of original Michael broke into hardware store stole stuff stalked Laurie around town and through school however many hours that is Laurie sees sheriff for a second goes home there's Michael however much time later she leaves with Annie pass by hardware store cops there oh someone broke in here we just turned off the alarm yeah he broke in that morning you're just now responding how many hours later lol why they blaming Laurie you'll see that in new scream movie why they blaming Sam she's the killer in that scream wtf lol I always figured they were going to end it like original starts and four ended with another random kid killing someone and thus the cycle continues on again you can't kill evil you Can kill the person but then another evil person will pop up lol the shape can never die lol Michael was just one iteration of the shape there's been others before him there'll be more after him Michael wasn't dead because of throat slit because he got chopped up in that machine lol
😅🤣😂 This movie is such a mess! It's so bad it's good imo (except for showing Michael vulnerable and weak, weird incest vibes between Corey and his mother, and lackluster final fight between Laurie and Michael.) All that was just bad.
Thanks for all the love on this video! Also I’m loving all the opinions I’ve been dying to chat with you guys about this one. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS MOVIE??!
Update: …this video just got partially blocked and demonetized due to copyright. Damn…..I spent hours and hours and hours on this. Super frustrating.
You still have 2 Halloween movies to review. Not III. Rob Zombie rebooted the franchise for 2 movies worth of story. Danielle Harris, the girl who plays Jamie, Laurie's Daughter in 4, 5 & 6 plays Annie, making her a 5 time Halloween alumni. I'm sure if you've heard anything about it, you've heard the negatives, as is the popular modern dismissal technique, but for my official Top 3 rankings, it goes Halloween, Rob Zombie's H2, Rob Zombie's Halloween! It's due for a resurgence. It'll happen.
I'm curious to know your thoughts. I like how they portray Myers' psychosis, especially in part II.
@@Nicolas.Vincent I actually grew up watching the two Rob Zombie remakes funny enough! So I've seen those (even though there's quite a bit I don't remember)! :) That's why I never made reactions to them. I think I will down the line but wanted to keep this series pure by only seeing the franchise films I never saw.
@@ScaredPale Ah, OK! I'll have to come along with you in your Nightmare reactions. I think I've only screened up to part 5, and I'm sure I've seen bits and bites of the others here and there, but never from beginning to end. In fact, the last time I did screen a Nightmare movie was on VHS. No local shops had all of them, so a buddy of mine and I ended up calling all over the city to track them down in release order, but my buddy got tired of doing that and he gave up on me 😭
I wonder if you're all up to date with the Friday franchise? Hands down my favourite of the big 3 Slashers. I greatly favour a sympathetic Slasher, and my growing boy Jason is one of the greatest! 🪓 I need the pain of a Voorhees, or a grief stricken Pumpkinhead or the ultimate sympathetic Slasher Candyman 🐝🚽 I don't like how rude Freddy is. Candyman's a straight Gentleman!
But anyway 😂 yeah, if you keep uploading reactions, I'll keep up with them. I really enjoy your take and perspective. Keep 'em coming! I'll keep watching!!
@@Nicolas.Vincent Thanks so much for the support! Candyman really is a gent haha
As a Halloween fanatic since my childhood, I GET the frustration with this one. It’s definitely a lousy finale to a long-running saga. But! I dig it 😅 Idk what it is, I just love the vibes, Corey’s character arc, the expanded characterizations of Laurie and Allyson, the little world-building details sprinkled throughout, and the whole Christine-esque element. I kinda wish they’d saved this kind of experimentation for a reboot, but I appreciate them trying something so different anyway, lol!
The Christine comparison is super interesting!!
John Carpenter originally intended to make a comeback in the 1980’s with a 4th Halloween. The intention was to show how Michael affected Haddonfield, in the years following his death in part 2. I can’t recall if there was a apparition version of Michael to add to it. Carpenter used quite a bit of his part 4 treatment in this film. Such as the woman that confronts Laurie outside the supermarket. The film once again plays a composite of former canon sequels. Even a nod to Halloween III with the opening credits.
Carpenter had nothing to do with the film other than score it.
@Lialexen Again he had nothing to do with filming, and yes he suggested doing this or that, and they would take that into consideration. Like in the 2018 movie they wanted to do that flashback to 78 to show him getting caught, he told them no you would piss of the hardcore fans, so they waited and did it in Kills. He gave them ideas but was not involved in making the film.
Can’t wait to watch this when I get home! I’ve been wondering your thoughts on it for a while now considering the direction it took. Thank you ☺️
THANK YOU!! 😊
I liked this movie a lot. I think the Corey storyline would have worked better as a part of a series. Would have had way more time to flesh it out. But I recommend reading the novelization of Ends. It really adds a lot to the movie.
I didn’t know there was a novelization!
@@ScaredPale yup! There was one for Kills too but from what I’ve heard the one for Ends adds a lot more to the story than Kills’ did. I got mine for like less than $10 or so, so it’s relatively cheap if it’s something you’re interested in :)
Glad to be your first like and first comment. I'll no doubt post again later, but i hope you enjoy this very different style of Halloween.
Thank you!
the pumpkin is Kills represented the movies in the franchise, 12 pumpkins for the 12 movies.
Laurie also says in the opening monologue " people began coming up with their own answers"
so the writing isnt the problem when the characters behave as the monologue suugests
and they're making up their own answers
Good reaction Pale! I never caught this one, i'll rent it this weekend.
My favourite moment in the whole movie is right after Corey and Michael kill the doctor and nurse in the doctor's home, it cuts from the two of them in the house to a shot of Corey on his motorcycle with someone riding on the back seat, it made me so happy to think it was him and Michael riding together before it cuts to the closeup revealing it to be Allyson riding on the back instead.
My favorite moment was when it ended because this movie is so bad.
HAHAHA wait I wanna see that cut, where it’s Michael on the backseat HAHA
this is better than most of the Halloween sequeles form the 80s and 90s and I kinda like the idea they went with but they hyped it up as a movie about the big final battle between Laurie and Michael and that's not the movie they made.
Lol personally i disagree with that. I do love this one but i love most of the early sequels more, except H20.
@@jonbolton3376 I always thought of this series as having especially bad sequels compared to Nightmare on Elm Street or Friday the 13th, but after thinking about it, I do enjoy most of them (other than 5, 6 and Resurrection) .
@@jonbolton3376 Agreed. Halloween 2 and 4 are among my favorites. I was also one of the few that like The Curse Of Michael Myers. Paul Rudd was an awesome Tommy Doyle. I think that film just scared a bunch of folks. Lol.
Don't worry there at least 2 more Halloween movies being talked about right now, and a TV series coming soon. No way this was actually the end of this franchise.
No way?! Haha classic
It wasn't an evil possession, it was more of an unlocking. They say it in the film so I don't get how so many people miss it
This was the 2nd nicest rant I've seen on RUclips. Loved it.
I realllly ranted this time. Glad you enjoyed it 😅
That opening was one of the most corny and un-intentionally hilarious things I've ever seen! The way the kid splats and bounces was so goddamn funny!
i like that they tried something different, and it is an interesting idea how evil can infect a town after its passed. not sure how well they pulled it off, but i imagine whenever the next halloween movie comes around it'll be back to Michael slashing.
did you catch where they recreated the lady yells at cat meme?
No I didn’t catch that?!?
The mask being his source of supernatural invulnerability has been my theory for awhile, the Kills novelization basically admitted it.
You did catch a good amount of the themes and ideas in this though, a lot of people were openly mad about ends because they weren't smart enough to get the point
Hi! I have watched all your videos of first time watching a halloween movie and I was missing the video about this movie and I have to say very good as usual. At first i didn't like the movie but then I rewathed it better
Thanks so much for watching!
Like you i avoided all spoilers, same as always i intentionally avoided cinemas, each time i need to smoke i miss 5 minutes lol. I prefer to watch in comfort in bed with beer and cigs.
You speak of this being the end of my favourite franchise. I certainly hope not, just this trilogy. I'm optimistic we will see more of Michael probably in other timelines, my personal hope is a new sequel to Halloween 4, starring Danielle Harris as she is now. I do love Halloween 5, but most fans agree it had one or two issues, mostly caused by the director lol.
I would love to see Danielle Harris back!!
Great reaction and review ☺️💯
I genuinely think this one had a lot of very interesting thoughts and ideas, just not for the last one. And also, Laurie clearly says at the beginning that since Michael's return, the town has changed, its got darker, less trusting, suspicious, thats why the towns folks have turned so dark and bitter. Its a cool idea, the town went through mob mentality during the second, and now they are living with grief and fear.
It's about "What is the Shape, and can more than one person be that?"
I just want to write that my name is Josh and i want to write that on Sunday March 12, 2023 Jamie Lee Curtis won the oscar for best supporting actress for her role in the film Everything Everywhere All at once.. Jamie Lee Curtis is now an oscar winner..
WOOOO!!!!! So happy
Easily the best of the 3
Bold opinion
My guy💯
I just want to write that my name is Josh and i want to write that Jamie Lee Curtis has finally been nominated for an academy award for the first time for the 95th academy awards on March 12, 2023.
I will be watching!!!
She overrated asf bro haha
Had to see your reaction , see what your thoughts are
How I look at this trilogy it is more than about Laurie vs Michael but the town of Haddonfield dealing with trauma and healing from it along with how Michael's evil spreads around like a disease affecting those around him like with Dr. Sartain in H18, the town in Kills, and now with Corey in Ends. This movie sends a positive message on trauma healing. I look at Ends as the epilogue to H18/Kill or the effect to H18/Kills cause.
I also love how it pays respect on what John Carpenter wanted the series to be with focusing on different stories centered around Halloween and we got majority of that.
How I interpret Corey and Michael is that Michael is getting older and his body went through a good amount of damage in both H18 and especially Kills, his home got demolished which was his goal to begin with hence why he’s living in a sewer but he has won because the entire town of Haddonfield is even more traumatized and afraid because of his 2018 mayhem. However, his body is rotting away in the sewers and the evil inside Michael needs a new vessel and looking into Corey’s eyes seeing the trauma he went through and himself which then the evil in Michael transfers itself to Corey, its power waking up the buried hate inside Corey. The opening intro with the jack o lanterns foreshadows that Evil doesn’t die but changes shape.
Overall, I love this trilogy and Ends is my favorite out of the three and my 2nd favorite in the series and it ended the Laurie vs Michael saga on a satisfying note for me.
You mentioning a what if with Lindsey being the main character makes me want to see that happen lol
I’m all for the Lindsey reboot haha. And yes I agree there’s a strong message there about healing trauma in a really beautiful way.
cool reaction and review Sydney ( : I really like your enthusiasm and in depth discussions, and heyy, i'm looking forward to your A Nightmare On Elm Street series reactions, and if your gonna watch those, you should really watch 'Freddy Vs Jason' (2003) as well....and to go a long with that before you get to FvJ you should watch the Friday The 13th series, at least the first 8 films that all came out in the 1980s, it will make 'Freddy Vs Jason' much more enjoyable and the call backs in the movie will make a lot more since........cheers - Fred Krueger
I saw the 1st Halloween at 7 yro in the theater in '78. MICHAEL MYERS BLEW UP AT END OF HALLOWEEN 2! END OF STORY, & FUK ALLL THE REST!!! Now if Myers actually got a hold of Jamie Lee Curtis, tortured her to death, revived her & did it again over & over & over again, it MAY actually be worth it to go see another "Halloween"?!😅
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Halloween Ends is two different movies combined together and it didn't work! 90 percent of the movie was pointless because of what they did with Corey and the other 10 percent was underwhelming! Really wonder if they will ever release all the other endings!
Thought it was well made, but a HORRIBLE halloween film. Supposed to be the last chapter of Laurie and Michael we get 90% of this film with a kid who is evil, 10 mins of myers who looked more feeble/fragile then a 90 year old cancer patient that weighed 50 pounds. I swear DGG is Bi-polar, 2018 they said they wanted to make it more grounded and took away his supernatural edge, just a man who can take an incredible amounts of damage, then ends they gave him back that edge, with laurie's dialogue at the end, and the damage he was able to survive without a limp. Hell he was in a house on fire and the smoke would kill any living creature in a min or so, he was in there for what, 6-10 mins at least while the fire dept got there. Please don't say that gate kept the smoke out those gates are not air tight. Then in ends we get a normal guy? Getting pushed around by a nerd who takes his mask? lol Tonally they did a 360 with myers from 2018 to ends.
I feel like blumhouse had these grand ideas for kills, and ends but not the film making skills to pull them off. Funny I think 2018 and ends are better made films then kills, but I had the most fun with kills. Here's to hoping that the next studio to get the rights are competent, and understand the character better.
My biggest wish for the ending of Halloween Kills, would’ve been for Ash Williams and other survivors from other franchises showing up. Ash would say to her: “Hey lady, I heard that you have a psychotic killer loose in your town. We’re here to help.”
Just a pipe dream lol
Haha! Love it
It's a low bar but this is my favorite of the trilogy since I surprisingly like the Corey storyline (mostly), but the writing for all three was pretty fucking shocking lol.
Hahahha I can respect that
@Scared Pale yeah I can appreciate them trying something different, but this wasn't the right time to get weird with it lol.
Whenever I'm in the mood for these movies, I'll stick with the first seven and even the Rob Zombie movies.
The best way to keep the Corey storyline, but in a slightly better way, is to have Corey not actually kill anyone, but instead stand by and LET Michael kill people because of how badly the town treated him over an, albeit horrible, accident. It would have been a much better commentary on the people who go to these films to watch characters get killed and then the scene where Corey eventually tries to stop Michael from picking up the knife would have felt more impactful.
Great insight!
I think we’ve gotten so lucky as fans to have this new Halloween trilogy and I’m so grateful for it. I don’t like Kills all that much but still. However, Halloween, Halloween 2 and Halloween H20 is still the superior timeline for me and I think the ending H20 provided with the head chop was far more effective as a finale. Of course, Resurrection happened but I don’t even acknowledge it as a sequel to H20 tbh. Nope. Absolutely not.
I love that final H20 moment as a hypothetical ending. It’s so strong
Love this movie. The message is that evil changes shape and how it spreads. How evil can affect us as a person and community. '78 made Laurie into a person full of fear and she channeled that into preparing for Michael's return. Halloween Kills turned Haddonfield into what Laurie was in '18. A community full of fear and people channeled that in different ways, placing blame on others, committing acts of violence, etc.
Ok I love that you love this movie!! I know more people do and I want to hear those opinions too
I'm kinda interested in how DAVID GORDON GREEN is going to do with the new EXORCIST REBOOT , comes out later this year 😀😀😀😀😂
Wow yeah the writing in the exorcist is so strong to me. Simple ideas acted well. A little nervous for that one
Yeah... this film is SO bad! I know it pissed off alot of fans. What kills me the most is that the premise of the reboot was to show that Michael was not supernaturally invincible... and at the end of Halloween Kills they literally made him invincible! It was just an excuse to erase the second original movie along with the rest and they gave this one that woke kind of feel with a lackluster toxic relationship with Cory and the grand daughter. It was just to over the place with the plot. I feel how so many people wanted this 3rd movie in the series to be redone. I did want to see what you thought about it though. So with that being said, Great Review!!
This movie makes me more angry every time I watch it. There’s good moments in it for sure but the route they took and the way they just did Michael dirty rubbed me the wrong way. Also as far as plot goes it seems like a complete rip off of “Christine” 🤦♂️
Wow after you mention that it really is the same character arc for Arnie and Corey!!!
@@ScaredPale yesss! I sat in the theater watching this and just couldn’t help but compare Arnie and Corey the entire time and it just felt like a rip off idk. Jamie deserved her send-off, she’s amazing. But it just felt like a spit in the face of a Michael (who made the franchise what it is).
And why is it necessary to declare "awkward"? That simply makes the situation MORE awkward!
Halloween got me into horror movies. It’s my favorite horror franchise. This is one of my least favorite of the entire franchise.
You've seen the rest of them right? If we're being objectively honest about quality *as films* Ends is in the top 5 out of all 13.
There are some actually very interesting concepts in this movie and I genuinely enjoyed a few scenes but... the overall execution of these ideas is horrible imo. I have a lot of issues with this one but what bothers me the most is that a) it doesn't feel like a natural progression to the last one, b) Laurie and Allyson are acting so unlike the first 2 films, c) they decided to end this saga by introducing a new character that wasn't in any of the previous ones, give him all the screen time and kill him off even before the end. I actually like the idea of someone being obsessed with Michael and what he stands for but it feels super forced and unbelievable how they did it. Same goes for the love story between Allyson and Corey.
I guess you could give them credit for trying something new but... did they? The 2018 movie took the concept of the original and combined it with H20, HKills combined Halloween 2 and Halloween 4 and finally Ends combines Halloween 3 with Christine.
So... no, doesn't feel that creative to me. I enjoyed the previous ones because I think they had great tension, some tragic moments and perfectly captured what makes Myers scary.
After Halloween Ends I left the cinema feeling kinda empty and dissapointed because this last one didn't feel much like a Halloween movie at all and had not much of what made the first 2 good.
The new trilogy was a big letdown. Halloween 2018 had potential, but the Sartain plot twist and the ill timed bad humor put a damper on it. Kills and Ends were both really bad. There were times watching Ends that I forgot it was a Halloween film.
Me personally when I first watched it I was very disappointed cause for months they made it seem like Laurie and Michael is about to have this very big showdown and whatever for only it to be like a 5min brawl if that and lack of Michael in this movie.
What I did enjoy was that they can build a character who was just a normal person doing his job in order to make money and the next moment he's looked at as this monster by everybody which turns him into this cold hearted killer. I like that a lot that shows that somebody else can wear the mask or be the next Boogeyman besides it always being about Michael.
And after rewatching it I enjoyed it very much granted it wasn't the best out of the trilogy but it was decent. If blumhouse does decides to continue it I hope that they keep Michael dead, if anything I feel like it should be an anthology and keep it pushing.
Now for the anthology I feel like they should introduced some new characters and obviously a new killer and they can even mentioned something about Michael Myers and the things he did.
You found far more to enjoy in this movie than I did. I'm really glad I didn't see it in a theater because by the end I was just uncontollably shouting "Jesus, this movie is terrible!" at my tv like it was my new mantra or something. Could not get over it. The paper thin characters, the tired melodrama, the inexplicable psycho killer bromance ... what a bizarre trainwreck.
On the "this isn't about you, Laurie" note: what're the odds Michael's brand new protege would just so happen to wind up romantically involved with her granddaughter? Of all the people in Haddonfield? And he didn't like, meet Michael, get possessed by "Evil" then search her out to get to Laurie or anything. It was all just happenstance. Or "fate" or whatever. This trilogy clearly had no idea what it wanted to do or say in that regard. Just such a puzzling mess from beginning to end.
If they ever make another one of these, I hope they go back to the OG chronology. Get real weird with it and bring back the Cult of Thorn! Hell, see if Paul Rudd and Danielle Harris will do it. Never happen, but it'd be more fun than Ends was.
YES. Agreed
@@ScaredPale More will be made, they said Laurie's story is over we'll never see her again, but michael will be back in a soft reboot. Blumhouse still doesn't know if they will get the rights back, here's to hoping someone else gets it. They said the franchise is going on the back burner for several years So we probably won't see anything until the end of the decade.
@@punkem733 They need to let this franchise die. There's nowhere else for it to go- at least the Michael angle any way.
@@clintmorrison5863 They are going to make more. Blumhouse said the rights went back to the the rights holder and they don't know whether they will get them back or not, but the plan is to make more with Myers and that supposedly this is the end of Laurie's story we'll never see her again. They also said it will be several years until a new one as burnout for the fans is a real thing, so expect new movies around 2028-2031.
Oh god, this opinion absolutely sucks haha. Your take on this is the dumbest fucking take I've ever seen
Can't wait for Nightmare on elm street 3
I'm dying for your reaction on the next Nightmare
When I saw this my thought was “oh they wanted us to hate this” lol weird choices by blumhouse
HAHA!
I hate this movie so much. Yes, they tried "something new" with this installment, and by "new" of course we mean ripping off movies OUTSIDE of the Halloween franchise: Christine, Friday the 13th Part V, A Nightmare on Elm Street 2, My Bodyguard, Boogie Nights, Vanishing Point, It, It: Chapter 2, and so on and so forth. Such a novel approach. One thing I did kind of accurately predict the filmmakers would do was rip off the unused screenplay for Halloween IV by Dennis Etchison. It picks up 10 years after Halloween 2, Dr Loomis and Michael are dead, but Michael kind of lives on as an evil specter infecting the hearts and minds of the people of Haddonfield. It's a good screenplay, but of course DGG and DM managed to F that up as well.
Wait PT Andersens Boogie Nights?! Ok I need to hear this breakdown
@@ScaredPale LOL Ok, I might have pulled THAT one out of thin air. But then again there's that whole weird thing going on between Corey and his mom. Similar but less explicit and more inferred to in Boogie Nights between Eddie and his mom. Maybe Corey became a killer because he has mother issues? He's such a complex character.
@@strawdawgs78 Definitely some mommy issues going on there
31:05 I'm sorry but I don't think they'll be casting you as the next batwoman 😔
Aww :( damn I blew my chance
I adore this film.
This trilogy was backwards. It should have been in reverse order.
"Why is he talking like Batman all of a sudden" -Sydney. haha that was funny, nice reaction and breakdown I like your beanie and nice new couch. Personally, as a huge Halloween fan I felt this movie was blah, the Corey stuff distracted from Michael and they treated him like a normal human in this movie where every other timeline and even the past two movies of this trilogy timeline he was more supernatural, this one the only thing we saw that would hint that is the transferring his power of evil into Corey and Michael seeing his memories, weird...
Felt like they wanted to end this timeline with Laurie on top while hinting at the concept of "evil comes in different forms" yet they decided to make Michael more human in this movie yet still try to keep that supernatural element which imo doesn't work, it's one or the other not maybe yes, maybe no. You saw Kills he was unkillable pretty much, this one a kid takes him down and steals his mask..just annoyed me lol.
I think the next time we see Halloween again it'll be a full out reboot/remake, they need to make him supernatural metahuman again, hell i'd even give him a healing regeneration factor since the original Michael pretty much had that with all he tanked getting shot, impaled, burnt, run over, shot over balconies, electrocuted etc etc and not dying. This one he gets stabbed and throat cut and dies lol...after getting shot, stabbed, run over etc in the last few movies. Like you said.
I don't think David Gordon Greene knows what Michael is, one movie he made him supernatural, unbeatable the next a human...it's stupid lol. The Corey stuff should have been a separate entity or short lived if anything. The movie also as you and many others mentioned has very little Michael Myers time which for a last finishing movie is one of the dumbest ideas they could have done. This movie was one of the worst Halloweens up there with Resurrection and Zombie's H2 as far as I'm concerned lol. Hey hope you react to the Child's Play series next, I think you'll have a lot of fun with Chucky if you haven't seen them of course.
I’ve seen most of the Chucky films, particularly I’ve seen Bride of Chucky 100 times from vhs as a kid. Bu I may revisit them for the channel!! Love Brad Dourif
@@ScaredPale Yeah Brad is awesome, I feel bad for the future Chucky when they reboot that series (not the A.I. version) but the oldschool Chucky story for whoever has to step into those shoes lol. It's going to be like the Nightmare remake where everyone was constantly comparing Jackie Earle Haley to Robert Englund lol. Ahh ok I couldn't remember if you saw them or not, I gotcha.
Oh wow so you saw Bride a kid, see me I'm a little older haha I first saw chucky with the first movie I was like 5 lol scared the hell out of me, like most 80's babies, he was also far more creepy and sinister, then they made him sillier and goofy so 90's and 2000's kids didn't find him scary like my generation of kids did. I'm sure you know what I mean though if you compared the first 3 movies to Bride, Seed etc My two fav slashers are Chucky and Michael, but Freddy is also funny. Never been into Jason like at all lol. Awesome, sounds awesome! Great reaction and breakdown!
@@MKF30 Honestly I've never been into Jason either. I've seen parts of the movies and am just so uninterested. From what I know about them they seem so formulaic and rely on kills where I prefer to have some sort of plot pushing me along with motives and character development, But that's me judging pretty hard considering I've never really seen them
@@ScaredPale Yeah I always saw Jason as a Michael knockoff to be honest, I mean Michael was the first supernatural slasher, stalks, disappears, reappears, wears a white mask, never dies etc etc lol. Jason also supernatural slasher, stalks, disappears and reappears, wears a hockey mask, never dies etc etc lol.
I much prefer Myers for many reasons over Jason if I had to pick that slasher archetype. The first few movies are also incredibly cheesy with the acting of the Friday the 13th series compared to the other slashers. He kills out of revenge for himself and his mommy lol. Kind of generic to be honest so you're not wrong lol.
"This is whacko" is a great eay to describe this doodoo seepage movie. I do love moldy, gnarly looking Michael tho
Hey Sydney 😊😊👋👋
Hiiiii
@@ScaredPale Hiiiiiii
I can't imagine that this film is any good. Halloween Kills was bad, too. The only good ones are the first 3, back in the 1970s and 1980s. Hi, Scared Pale... where have you been???
I’m here!!! It took me forever to edit this cause it was such a slog. Next up is Nightmare 3 which I’m excited about and I have an interview planned for next month too
Almost seems like its about the influence of Michael or the inspiration like with all these shooters over the decades you got some doin it then others that happened its because of those original ones then new ones happen and its still cause of original ones or its last ones its kind of scream like billy and Stu did their thing then second happened because of them each one after is because of the previous one or original funny you mentioned the outfit he's wearing he's wearing a engineer jumpsuit and his job is a engineer he wore that outfit earlier and she didn't think nothing about it it'd his uniform lol the mask could have been planted by Laurie for all she knew just cause he was found with it don't mean he brought it with him or used it lol
In 5 more years there will be more of these movies
Yes kids like that do exist. When i was 11, they were 15 or 16 and bullied me, oh yeah they are real.
Ugh I hate that. I’m so sorry :(
I knew you'd fall with the majority and not like this movie. While I don't agree with what they did with Cory, not even when they teased the same thing with Jamie Lloyd in Halloween 4, I did like Halloween Ends problems and all.
They really did tease that in Halloween 4 huh
What would have made this work is to keep it simple. Laurie is out for blood after Michael killed her daughter. She has help from her grandaughter to do it. It all happens on the same night just as it was originally planned. The fact that they were forced to shut shit down because of covid screwed everything up. It gave them way too much time and they started to vastly overthink everything and tried to come up with this compelling narrative... but it fell SO flat and the way it was portrayed was SO bad. I will be pissed about this movie forever. We had 2 great movies and all they had to do was stick the landing and they crashed.
And I thought Halloween Kills would be the worst movie in this new trilogy... boy was I wrong. Michael just hanging out in a drainage pipe and eating rats for 4 years? WTF were David Gordon Green, Danny McBride, Paul Brad Logan and Chris Bernier thinking??? 😑
I mean to be fair Michael is like In his 60's or some shit they bulldozed his home so he can't go there and if he tries to walk around people will recognized a dude wearing a burnt mask and jumped suit.
this franchise isn't ending i know that because money talks and the franchise and michael myers is popular. i'm hoping for danielle harris' jamie lloyd returns because they did her character wrong in halloween 6
This entire sequel timeline is completely nonsensical.
And the original timeline isn’t?
This movie not only shit on the characters that they built in the first 2 movies. It shit on all of the characters in general. I'm shocked that this movie has so many apologists. It's so bad in every way. I loved the first 2 movies. To the point that I legit felt offended by how bad this one was LOL!
Cute Hat
Thanks!
Sidney or is it Sydney? I knew a girl named Sidonie. However, you spell it, Sidney is unimpressed; weirdly I'm entertained.
Sydney 👍🏻
Worst Halloween movie I ever seen . Will never watch this again lol.
I liked this movie a lot, but I think it's the perfect example of an original movie with an interestingl premise that feels completely wrong and unsatisfying because it's a part 3 in a trilogy that never set it up. This is why I'm not a fan of franchises. When you try something new it feels jarring and weird. This would have worked a LOT better as a standalone Halloween film.
I agree!
What's with the complete overuse of the word "narrative"?
Most movies especially horror movies especially horror movie sequels they have lots of one dimensional flat characters there just to die how is that any different than this movie so why hate and over criticize this but those are fine lol
To me this is not the way to end a trilogy
Its funny you say why stay in the town where the trauma happened move then mentioned new scream yeah they moved but everyone knows what happened where they came from and blame that girl so they did move but it followed her there probably what they saying in this funny too you mention the possession thing that's a theme that's happened a few times in the franchise can evil be passed on especially if Michael dies would the evil pass on change shape they touch on it in four and rob zombies Halloween two and comics maybe others but I do like the exploration of that in this and really you can take that and go to other horror movies are all these movies connected by the evil consuming these people and the trauma they put on others surviving that attack and either they overcome their trauma and live or turn evil themselves lol like the narrative in this lol
Halloween 2018 was the best one
Halloween kills has no story and horrible dialogue
Ends this is the worst one, Micheal is barely in it
My fav of the entire franchise is
Halloween 1978
Halloween 2
Halloween 4
Halloween 5
Halloween 6, both versions
Rob zombies Halloween
Halloween 2018
Loved the tone. Loved the vibe. Loved the Corey story. Loved Allison, freakin' hot in this flick! Didn't give a shit about Grandmother Laurie. I didn't like...Hell, I hated Myers in this flick! First David Gordon Green states Myers isn't a supernatural killer, then he made Kills where Myers is without question, an Immortal. Pitchfork to the lungs, eh? Was he just joking? Could have chained him to the bottom of a lake at the end of Kills.
Ends, old Decrepit Myers, gets actually beaten up by ol' hollow boned Grandmother Laurie, and like, slowly and gently bled? I liked the grinder, but only cause it was so gross 🤭 I hated Myers when he was getting his "quickening", in fact all the Corey/Myers scenes were so stupid! It actually looked stupid! How Myers learns Corey's past? So stupid! Just so stupid! All Corey/Myers scenes were almost offensive. I hated them. I feel like a No Myers Cut would have been a lot better. I prefer Myers in Resurrection more than in this.
Good movie, terrible Halloween movie! I liked the movie, but I just hated Myers.
For my No Myers Cut, Corey finds Myers in the sewer and he's basically all but dead already, dying and useless. Considering I thought the eye contact scene between the two of them was going to be like a body swap, I'd go with that concept, but Myers somehow just imbues Corey with his Power. The Shape is now inside of Corey. Corey cuts off Myers' head (or something definitive) and leaves Myers' body in the sewer.
So Corey is out "Burning it Down" in his Scarecrow Mask and instead of Myer's and Corey out killing together, with Corey learning and Myers teaching, instead we see Corey teaching himself how to let The Shape take over, where recreating the knife pegged victim to the wall kill would make a lot more sense. In these 4 movie's timeline, that kill is in the 1st, H40 and Ends. It was tired when Myers does it in Ends, but if Corey did it himself, that would have been so much more meaningful. It would be his first time killing with Myers' signature kill.
Corey could go back to the corpse of a rotting Myers after each kill, and after each kill, he loses more and more of himself and becomes more and more The Shape in the form of a Man.
"If I can't have Alison, nobody can!" Are Corey's last spoken lines in this flick. By the time he goes to Laurie's house at the end, Corey sees himself in the Mirror and he is The Shape! We see he is The Shape and Laurie sees it too.
They fight, Corey stabs himself in the throat, so no more voice. Alison gets there early and stomps Corey's neck for trying to kill her Grandmother. Corey is dead!
We feel it's over, there is a poignant calm.
The Police show up, take Grandmother and Alison to safety. We get a sense of relief. It feels over.
The Shape gets up, Coroner's Van kill maybe? Then The Shape is fully born into Corey's body. We know it definitively. We can see it. Corey as The Shape ends up back in the sewer, sidling up beside the long rotting corpse of Myers, and we see Corey finally remove Myers' Shatner Mask. He drops his Scarecrow Mask and replaces it with Myers' Mask. We slow zoom into the eyes of The Shape. Halloween Ends!
This would negate all the terrible Myers/Corey scenes. No "Quickening" scene looking like watching an old man who hasn't managed a full hard on for 20 years finally get there. No Father/Son murder tutorial nights. No little buddy scenes. Just Corey possessed of, or imbued with The Shape. I loved Alison's character anyway. Halloween Never Ends! 🔪🎃
You could even add a scene where Alison is pregnant at the end. They wouldn't have to come up with anymore bullshit excuses to get the two of them, or three of them together. But it would be hilarious to see a Masked Shape riding down the highway on a motorcycle instead of in a Station Wagon 😆
You talking about police reaction time in this reminds me of original Michael broke into hardware store stole stuff stalked Laurie around town and through school however many hours that is Laurie sees sheriff for a second goes home there's Michael however much time later she leaves with Annie pass by hardware store cops there oh someone broke in here we just turned off the alarm yeah he broke in that morning you're just now responding how many hours later lol why they blaming Laurie you'll see that in new scream movie why they blaming Sam she's the killer in that scream wtf lol I always figured they were going to end it like original starts and four ended with another random kid killing someone and thus the cycle continues on again you can't kill evil you Can kill the person but then another evil person will pop up lol the shape can never die lol Michael was just one iteration of the shape there's been others before him there'll be more after him Michael wasn't dead because of throat slit because he got chopped up in that machine lol
😅🤣😂 This movie is such a mess! It's so bad it's good imo (except for showing Michael vulnerable and weak, weird incest vibes between Corey and his mother, and lackluster final fight between Laurie and Michael.) All that was just bad.
RIGHT?! The incest vibes what the heck was that???!
@@ScaredPale It was disgusting and disturbing, that's what it was.
Your reactions are good but you spend way way way too much time talking about one point. It needs to be more balanced.
Hate this movie.😊