K, Noise must be quantified and qualified. You must measure the noise frequency and amplitude over seven days and then design for the maximum pressure level over that time period.
Can we have the "Acoustic Fields vs. GIK Acoustics vs. RealTraps - What's The Difference?" next time, please? It is an important topic for all of us who are trying to decide which products to invest in.
Hello sir, i want to have a grid ceiling mainly for gwtting good light for recording vidoes and echo cancellation. Which material is suited best for me?
I live in a new build apartment and I cannot move. the neighbours upstairs are very noisy scraping furniture I need to do something internally. Are you saying I don't have to put anything on the ceiling to stop this?
It would be best to place it close to the noise source. A rubber mat upstairs would be welcome. Anything you would have to do to the ceiling would be permanent construction.
For the majority of us that have only 8ft ceilings, there's not enough space to put quadratic diffusors on the ceiling. On your other builds and rooms where you have higher than 8 ft, you combine your Quadratic Diffusors along with LF absorption and acoustic foam, but what do you recommend other than acoustic foam for those with only 8ft ceiling?
O, You can use a QD-7 diffuser on an 8' ceiling height. It is 4" deep and the 8' distance allows for adequate waveform. Foam is the other option and sometimes a blend of both diffusion and absorption is called for.
O, It depends. If the drywall is secured to say a piece of ply, then the two pieces drywall and ply will support the additional weight of the diffusers. Each of our QD-7 weighs 15 lbs so if you cover a full sheet surface area you are using 8 QD- 7 X 15 lbs. so you must have a supporting structure. If it is just drywall over studs, you will have to build an independent support structure and secure it to the studs and then insert the diffusers.
Now building music room and I wonder. Should I use drop ceiling with acoustic tiles and treatment or gyps and treatment. In both cases rockwool insulation ceiling is 8 ft, room is 13x17. Many thanks
Stay away from building insulation types. Most are toxic and do not provide the proper rate and level of absorption for music and voice. With low frequency management in small rooms, you must treat all 4 walls along with either the floor or ceiling if you are serious about sound.
@@AcousticFields yes I will treat walls and ceiling but my present question is ceiling …….. acoustics tiles ou gyps ? I am afraid or noise from vibrating tiles others say no .
Gentlemen, I have a 8" ceiling. Can I simply checkerboard the whole ceiling with alternating QD-7 diffusers and your foam or is there a broader rule for directly above or at the ' reflect " spots?
J, Foam from the front wall to just up to the speaker's front edge on the ceiling. Then from the speaker front edge to at least 1' past the listening position, you can use two-dimensional diffusion and foam on ceiling.
the thing with my ceilings is that the original ceilings is 15ft high, but the previous tenant make another layer of drop ceilings mine is 8.1 ft to the first layer.
When calculating low frequency energy issues, you must measure from hard surface area to hard surface area. Low frequency energy does not see a drop ceiling. It goes right through it. Drop ceilings are cosmetic in nature. They cover up HVAC systems and pipes. They do have an impact on middle and high frequencies.
We just moved to a co-op apartment, and find out my upstairs neighbor makes lots of noise. He has a foot drop and drags his feet across my ceiling. We renovated the apartment right before we moved in, so we have all new sheetrock throughout (walls and ceiling) We put in new high heads, a new AC/Heat registers and the apartment comes with water sprinklers on top as well. I don't like drop ceilings and I don't think it's possible to use a drop ceiling in this case because of the water sprinklers. In your opinion, is there an acoustic way to block my neighbor's stomping noise from coming in? (It didn't help when I talk to him so I complained to the board, they checked his place and he is in compliance with 80% of carpeting/rug requirements) Please advice. Regards, Eric G. P.S. It's an 8F ceiling
You must first measure tyhe noise and then assign the proper barrier technology. All noise is a permanent construction fix. There is no wall hanging panel that will stop noise transmission.
Hi I am putting the 2x4 Acoustic ceiling in a bar / restaurant I have residents on both side of me. How can I deaden the sound? I will have the juke box on the inside wall.
T, You are confusing sound absorption technology with barrier technology. Sound absorption technology will only absorb energy within the room. Noise from the jukebox can only be minimized using a barrier that is designed for the frequency and amplitude of the jukebox noise. Plan on a thickness of at least 8" in the barrier or wall design.
P, High reverberation times (reflections) are managed by placing sound absorptive materials on all offending services such as walls, floors, and ceiling.
Hello, do you have any recommendations for impact noises in a condo? Should I be focusing on the wall as well vs. the ceiling? It’s mostly thumping/stomping noises I would like to tackle.
S, You must first measure the frequency and amplitude of your noise issues before we can prescribe treatment The terms thumping/stomping noises are subjective in nature and do not quantify and qualify the noise issues. When you go to the doctor and are not feeling well, the doctor draws blood and analyzes it. We must take measurements and analyze the data. From that data, we can prescribe a solution.
You will need to measure the amount of the noise and the frequency of the noise. After you have measured the problem, a barrier solution can be designed.
my drum studio is using hanging ceilings wonder whats the best solution,im thinking of putting rock wool on the inside of the ceiling using existing tiles, to help isolate a little ,any thoughts?
Building insulation is not an acoustical treatment type for low frequency management. You must use diaphragmatic absorption in a drum room. It will produce the required rates and levels that a drum room requires.
@@AcousticFields...its 2,500 sq ft. Maximum occupancy is approx 200 people. It would be for PA system. Currently is a commercial building with the exposed ceiling, ducks and metal framing that supports the roof. I want to keep all of that exposed. I've seen other night clubs that keep the ceiling exposed but I'm not sure if some sort of insulation they're using and just painting it black.
Hi! My celling is 8 foot from the floor, and my main issue in my room right now is at 100 - 200hz . Is it ok to mount a 2" lets say 4" away from the celling? I know there is a compromise but that 100 - 200hz region is so anoying, and I have panels on the side walls and rear wall to manage the mids and hihgs. thanks
You have 6 planes within your room. Those 6 surfaces produce all pressure and reflection issues. You have 3 soundfields created by sidewall to sidewall, front to rear wall, and floor to ceiling. You must treat these three soundfields, if you are serious abour room resolution. Without knowing the rate and level of absorption for the material type you are considering. I can not assist you.
Or "Acoustic Fields" Sorry. I couldnt resist it. ;) I didnt mean it. I hope to see the AF vs GIK vs RT comparison and that the result speaks for it self that Acoustic Fields is cool AF. :)
Acoustic Fields is a name of a company, not a product name. :-) I wish he had a room, where he puts the products in and actually takes measurement before and after each type of treatment and maybe do a recording of some music being played.
I agree. Before and after measurements would make a nice demonstration. And it is not like he doesnt have access to rooms, he treats rooms on weekly basis. That would show the T.A.P applied.
I wonder if he's going to use a Sawzall, or a Chainsaw to spilt them apart. I hope he puts on some kind of humor along with it. It'll go viral for sure..
T, Nothing could be further from the truth. The ceiling surface area accounts for 18 % of the total room surface area and its height is responsible for low-frequency issues throughout the room and for spurious reflections that reach our ears to conflict with the direct energy from a source.
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So nice to find a real expert. Thx, i needed this video.
A large percentage of companies in this business do not educate or explain. They just take advantage of the ignorance of the consumer.
dennis the best!
V, Thank you. We appreciate your support.
Every video I learn something with you. Thanks.
Glad to hear it!
What would you recommend to block the sound of a loud (deep) talker and lots of banging in a 7ft ceiling basement suite from getting upstairs?
K, Noise must be quantified and qualified. You must measure the noise frequency and amplitude over seven days and then design for the maximum pressure level over that time period.
@@AcousticFields what do you recommend to measure them?
@@monie948 yes
Can we have the "Acoustic Fields vs. GIK Acoustics vs. RealTraps - What's The Difference?" next time, please? It is an important topic for all of us who are trying to decide which products to invest in.
D, We are shooting the video next week. It usually takes a few weeks in post-production. Stay tuned.
Thanks! :)
Hello sir, i want to have a grid ceiling mainly for gwtting good light for recording vidoes and echo cancellation. Which material is suited best for me?
www.acousticfields.com/product/suspended-ceiling-foam-tile/
I live in a new build apartment and I cannot move.
the neighbours upstairs are very noisy scraping furniture I need to do something internally.
Are you saying I don't have to put anything on the ceiling to stop this?
It would be best to place it close to the noise source. A rubber mat upstairs would be welcome. Anything you would have to do to the ceiling would be permanent construction.
For the majority of us that have only 8ft ceilings, there's not enough space to put quadratic diffusors on the ceiling. On your other builds and rooms where you have higher than 8 ft, you combine your Quadratic Diffusors along with LF absorption and acoustic foam, but what do you recommend other than acoustic foam for those with only 8ft ceiling?
O, You can use a QD-7 diffuser on an 8' ceiling height. It is 4" deep and the 8' distance allows for adequate waveform. Foam is the other option and sometimes a blend of both diffusion and absorption is called for.
How would you best attach the QD-7 diffusor to a typical sheet rock ceiling?
O, It depends. If the drywall is secured to say a piece of ply, then the two pieces drywall and ply will support the additional weight of the diffusers. Each of our QD-7 weighs 15 lbs so if you cover a full sheet surface area you are using 8 QD- 7 X 15 lbs. so you must have a supporting structure. If it is just drywall over studs, you will have to build an independent support structure and secure it to the studs and then insert the diffusers.
Do you supply, sell or recommend any type of mounting brackets that can easily attach to the back of the diffusor or what would you recommend?
Now building music room and I wonder. Should I use drop ceiling with acoustic tiles and treatment or gyps and treatment. In both cases rockwool insulation ceiling is 8 ft, room is 13x17. Many thanks
Stay away from building insulation types. Most are toxic and do not provide the proper rate and level of absorption for music and voice. With low frequency management in small rooms, you must treat all 4 walls along with either the floor or ceiling if you are serious about sound.
@@AcousticFields yes I will treat walls and ceiling but my present question is ceiling …….. acoustics tiles ou gyps ? I am afraid or noise from vibrating tiles others say no .
Gentlemen, I have a 8" ceiling. Can I simply checkerboard the whole ceiling with alternating QD-7 diffusers and your foam or is there a broader rule for directly above or at the ' reflect " spots?
J, Remember that all treatment types, amounts, and positions (TAP) are usage dependent. What are you doing in your room?
smaller 2 channel listening room with your bass carbon tech
J, Foam from the front wall to just up to the speaker's front edge on the ceiling. Then from the speaker front edge to at least 1' past the listening position, you can use two-dimensional diffusion and foam on ceiling.
Thank you Dennis
@@Salbron What do you consider a smaller room?
How many material I need to do 1 720 square feet in acoustic two by two
Each 24' x 24" tile is 4 sq. ft. If you have 720 sq. ft. to cover, you divide 720 / 4 or 180 units.
the thing with my ceilings is that the original ceilings is 15ft high, but the previous tenant make another layer of drop ceilings mine is 8.1 ft to the first layer.
When calculating low frequency energy issues, you must measure from hard surface area to hard surface area. Low frequency energy does not see a drop ceiling. It goes right through it. Drop ceilings are cosmetic in nature. They cover up HVAC systems and pipes. They do have an impact on middle and high frequencies.
We just moved to a co-op apartment, and find out my upstairs neighbor makes lots of noise.
He has a foot drop and drags his feet across my ceiling.
We renovated the apartment right before we moved in, so we have all new sheetrock throughout (walls and ceiling)
We put in new high heads, a new AC/Heat registers and the apartment comes with water sprinklers on top as well.
I don't like drop ceilings and I don't think it's possible to use a drop ceiling in this case because of the water sprinklers.
In your opinion, is there an acoustic way to block my neighbor's stomping noise from coming in?
(It didn't help when I talk to him so I complained to the board, they checked his place and he is in compliance with 80% of carpeting/rug requirements)
Please advice.
Regards,
Eric G.
P.S. It's an 8F ceiling
You must first measure tyhe noise and then assign the proper barrier technology. All noise is a permanent construction fix. There is no wall hanging panel that will stop noise transmission.
Hi I am putting the 2x4 Acoustic ceiling in a bar / restaurant I have residents on both side of me. How can I deaden the sound? I will have the juke box on the inside wall.
T, You are confusing sound absorption technology with barrier technology. Sound absorption technology will only absorb energy within the room. Noise from the jukebox can only be minimized using a barrier that is designed for the frequency and amplitude of the jukebox noise. Plan on a thickness of at least 8" in the barrier or wall design.
What would you recommend for a home that has lots of barking dogs with tile floors?
P, High reverberation times (reflections) are managed by placing sound absorptive materials on all offending services such as walls, floors, and ceiling.
Hello, do you have any recommendations for impact noises in a condo? Should I be focusing on the wall as well vs. the ceiling? It’s mostly thumping/stomping noises I would like to tackle.
S, You must first measure the frequency and amplitude of your noise issues before we can prescribe treatment The terms thumping/stomping noises are subjective in nature and do not quantify and qualify the noise issues. When you go to the doctor and are not feeling well, the doctor draws blood and analyzes it. We must take measurements and analyze the data. From that data, we can prescribe a solution.
Put another layer of thick sheet rock on your ceiling.
@@Lughnerson does it work
i have dilemma room is 50 f by 30f 6 ppl desk there trying to block or absorb sound if ppl talk on the phones any idea ?
You will need to measure the amount of the noise and the frequency of the noise. After you have measured the problem, a barrier solution can be designed.
my drum studio is using hanging ceilings wonder whats the best solution,im thinking of putting rock wool on the inside of the ceiling using existing tiles, to help isolate a little ,any thoughts?
Building insulation is not an acoustical treatment type for low frequency management. You must use diaphragmatic absorption in a drum room. It will produce the required rates and levels that a drum room requires.
@@AcousticFields thank you appreciate your answer
What materials for ceiling height 10m?
Y, Same material type with much more surface area coverage.
What type of ceiling do you recommend for night clubs?
S, What is the room size? How many people in the room ? What is the sources of all noise? Is there a PA system, live band or ?
@@AcousticFields...its 2,500 sq ft. Maximum occupancy is approx 200 people. It would be for PA system. Currently is a commercial building with the exposed ceiling, ducks and metal framing that supports the roof. I want to keep all of that exposed. I've seen other night clubs that keep the ceiling exposed but I'm not sure if some sort of insulation they're using and just painting it black.
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Hi! My celling is 8 foot from the floor, and my main issue in my room right now is at 100 - 200hz . Is it ok to mount a 2" lets say 4" away from the celling? I know there is a compromise but that 100 - 200hz region is so anoying, and I have panels on the side walls and rear wall to manage the mids and hihgs. thanks
You have 6 planes within your room. Those 6 surfaces produce all pressure and reflection issues. You have 3 soundfields created by sidewall to sidewall, front to rear wall, and floor to ceiling. You must treat these three soundfields, if you are serious abour room resolution. Without knowing the rate and level of absorption for the material type you are considering. I can not assist you.
Banquet Hall 14. ft ceiling holds 400 people
What is your question.
Yeah, Kind of like using the term "Bass Traps".
O, Yes, a similar approach.
Or "Acoustic Fields"
Sorry. I couldnt resist it. ;) I didnt mean it. I hope to see the AF vs GIK vs RT comparison and that the result speaks for it self that Acoustic Fields is cool AF. :)
Acoustic Fields is a name of a company, not a product name. :-)
I wish he had a room, where he puts the products in and actually takes measurement before and after each type of treatment and maybe do a recording of some music being played.
I agree. Before and after measurements would make a nice demonstration. And it is not like he doesnt have access to rooms, he treats rooms on weekly basis. That would show the T.A.P applied.
I wonder if he's going to use a Sawzall, or a Chainsaw to spilt them apart. I hope he puts on some kind of humor along with it. It'll go viral for sure..
Ceiling is not important doma
T, Nothing could be further from the truth. The ceiling surface area accounts for 18 % of the total room surface area and its height is responsible for low-frequency issues throughout the room and for spurious reflections that reach our ears to conflict with the direct energy from a source.