I feel that Seventeen is well-known but underrated at the same time, as their songs are not as widely recognized as those of other HYBE groups. When I ask someone about Seventeen, they always say yes, but they are more familiar with the group's popularity rather than their great music. I feel like they deserve more recognition in the K-pop industry for their music.
You know what is one of the most things I love that group? There is not a single song that Seventeen does not like because they cannot possibly. They're so proud of Woozi and so happy to make their own music. They always discuss if the song is what they want, ALL 13 MEMBERS. Just imagine, 13 different people, 13 different tastes and styles, all of them agree and there is not a single sentence in their production process such as “Let's just do it even if you don't like or feel it, it's just one song c'mon”. No, in Seventeen every member should agree with every single song bcs they care about all the songs and want it sound like Seventeen. They want to provide the song that can be enjoyable for carats and for themselves. And even if the song sounds childish they still love that song as every other songs. I noticed that many groups are embarrassed or don’t like to perform some of the “cute, refreshing” songs, bcs they are all grown now. But Seventeen have special segment in their tour concerts to perform such song, they always make sure to include fun and cute songs such as Oh my, Mymy, Aju nice, Adore u, Pretty u and many more. They still love these songs bcs they are not just songs for them, but part of their life when they worked on these songs. They are proud to make their own music and all songs they have done are like sons for them. The best group in kpop.💗
the last sentence! hands down one of the greatest groups in kpop. i feel so lucky i got to see them in one of their stops for their current concert and their pride for their own music and performances is so apparent and it was such a great time watching them. ive never seen a group be so happy to perform and be idols. i love them!
Yeah, I don't know where I saw it but I still remember that every member of seventeen have to agree to all of the songs. Every member have to give their feedback for every song. And at that time I thought, so that's why there is not even a single song that I don't like
I always say that i need woozi's brain to be studied, because of how amazing he is, i don't how he does it, for so many years always finding a way to up themselves from they're last comeback it's crazy. And to think he's someone who likes staying inside, okay, fine, i do too, but still Overall, i really admire woozi. I really want to be as creative as him 💙🌺
I've always felt that Seventeen’s music has a way of touching hearts, bringing joy, and making every moment feel special. Woozi’s talent as a producer is incredible-you can feel the passion and effort in every song. Their music isn’t just something to listen to; it’s something to feel and connect with.
Idk why but sometimes I actually feel SVT is one of the underrated groups...their self producing skills attracted me towards them and now it's been 5 years since I'm stanning them..I'm so proud of my boys and the fun fact is they never disappoint them with their music...they've always been trending and I can proudly say that I'm a svt stan aka a carat! They deserves more recognition in this industry and I hope they will!!
Honestly they are famous but yet so underrated ,whether at the entertainment level or at the musical level they are just incredible and they deserve so much more visibility and recognition ,whether at the entertainment level or at the musical level they are just incredible and they deserve so much more visibility and recognition. They will soon be in the industry for 10 years and they have never disappointed, I hope we will give them the visibility they deserve, stan seveteen for a better life y'all
I love seventeen's music and performance so so much. They are masters in their game. As an aspiring music producer myself, I loved this video so much. Thanks for such quality content!!
As someone who has been following Kpop for over a decade now, they’re literally the only group I still stan. I’m so glad that their rising global popularity hasn’t exactly altered their “kpop”-iness (which has happened a lot for other groups and made me lose interest…). Additionally SVT’s concerts are the only ones that feel like home to me cuz of how amazingly natural they are in being able to interact and hype up Carats. Not only that, it’s so inspiring how all 13 members genuinely care and support each other 🥺 hope they continue to stay together for many more years to come. Forever a Carat 💎💗
Seventeen has such a diverse discography.......And they rock every concept...."Seventeen makes music that embodies them"🙌 ....you really described them very well...they are 13,talented and hard working hilarious guysss
what i love abt seventeen aside from their creativity is their passion and enthusiastic love abt making art that they’re proud of. aside from gose and their variety content, one of my favorite svt content are the behind the scenes of their production. i love love love watching them form ideas, bounce those ideas off each other, and the enthusiasm they share when doing it. heck even in nana tour we get a glimpse of how music and making music is really ingrained with them no matter what what with the improv singing while they’re drunk, random guitar jamming sessions, and the creation of the nana tour opening. i often say stanning seventeen isnt enough, i need to be let into their studio and get a close look at how they do things while creating their music because they’re just that good and so interesting and their passion and love for the art of music is so contagious. got to see them in their current world tour and the performances are superb too and the arrangement of their music with their live band was nuts. they’re amazing performers. stanning svt was one of the best decisions i made in my life they reminded me of how much i love listening to music. im so proud to say im a carat bc of them :)
wow wow wow svt was the last group I thought youd make a video on beacsue they have an INSANELY LARGE discography and soooo many different genres and 3 diff units that make such varying music from on another but i love the direction u took this video in i agree that funkiness is one of svts top qualities in their music i love the praise you showered on woozi i love how u complimented how all the rappers are integrated so well in their songs and their parts dont sound out of place unlike in other kpop songs i love that you comlimented the vocal teams harmonies!! and what hasnt already been said about svts performances great video!!
our 🐐s bumzu and woozi seventeen are popular but they really deserve more recognition, I have been a carat for 7 years and I’m really proud of them, I hope they get more popular 🫶🏻
dude i never wouldve thought to be a like dedicated kpop fan bcs of how it is but like its only recent that i found seventeen and i was like hooked. their creativity was literally a love at first sight for me and its no wonder why i never loved a group of musicians so much. they feel so natural, authentic, and they experiment with genres which is rare now a days imo. amazing vid man 🙏
THANK YOUUUU 😭❤️ You covered everything I love about SEVENTEEN!! • They’re a self-produced group. • WOOZI’s genius obsession with delayed drops and his unique musical style. • Their discography feels like an emotional journey. • Each member has individual skills that elevate their performances. • They’re an evenly structured group, with each unit (Vocal, Hip-hop, Performance) perfectly coordinating their roles. • All 13 members could debut as successful solo artists! they can sing, rap, and dance! • Their choreography is always fresh, detailed, and clean! never repetitive. • They’re hilarious and genuinely good people. They’re the only artists I stan and support because they are simply PERFECT 💖💎
tbh their extensive range of songs and diverse discography lowkey got me deep into musicality or production interests and discovery of various genres intensely. appreciate you highlighting their craft and artistic vision! thanks for the brief yet powerful summary!
I've been a carat for only 4 years but something i noticed about svt's popularity is that, yes, they're really big now but they just don't have enough hype to support that popularity. what i noticed too is that their fame did not came from one viral song. although we know they've made some of the greatest hits in their entire career but they went up in the industry from bottom to top slowly, steadily but definitely sure. They are that group that I'm sure has a loyal fanbase already and i can really see them last much longer in the industry. but given how competitive the industry is, they must remain present and visible. i salute woozi (and bumzu) for being so hard working in creating music. i mean, we're so well fed honestly, every year we get 1-2 comebacks excluding the Japanese ones. svt has always been doing their part and the fandom can only do so much. I'm just saying, when it comes to popularity, virality of every artists' releases is something we cannot predict or control of but it has always been something i wish for svt. i wont sugarcoat it anymore if i say i want svt to achieve SOTY, top the billboard, had their song being played to everywhere and people dancing along with it. I want all those for svt. I want them RECOGNITION more than they get now. and I'm so sure svt wants that too. 10 years in the industry but they've made clearly how much more they wanna achieve. and I hope they really do. as of now the fandom can only do so much, svt will always pour everything to their craft and the rest is up to well, i guess luck. and the general public's taste lol.
I don't know about other countries but in my country many people listen svt's music without knowing who they are , i met many persons who are just music lovers and in their Playlist they have added many svt's songs like hit, aju nice, ash , shadow , adore u etc but they don't know who seventeen is but they have added it because according to them their songs are so good , when i asked them how did they find svt's music they just said that they have heared their songs on reels
Omgg this happened to me too, I used to listen to their songs and even remembered the lyrics even when I don't really listen to them, never even added them to my playlist but the song was just played randomly and it stuck in my head. It was when I finally committed to become a carat that I realized that all those fantastic songs are from svt. Actually I do know them from their debut days but I only know mansae and aju nice back then, never thought that don't wanna cry, thanks, left & right, homerun, baksu, beautiful, pretty u, home, happy ending, hit and many more are from them. Their music for me is quite well known in my country cause at that time I've left my kpop fangirling era for about 5 years by listening to more jpop but still manage to listen to them ps: I'm from Malaysia btw😊
Thank you so much for making such a well-researched video for SEVENTEEN. As a carat myself I feel their music is still super underrated in k-pop. SVT has a zero skip discography and Woozi has only perfected his musicality genius and artistry with every comeback! The variety in their discography is insaneeee! I would urge more people to listen to their B-Sides! Shoutout to Vernon who participates in production too and adds elements of Hyperpop in their production!
After Woozi, Vernon is the most active in music production. Recently he produced 2 songs from The8’s album Starlight. Also been producing songs outside SVT. And ofc his rap is top-tier. I love his flow so much.
I just got into Seventeen in October 2024 and since then, I've seen alot of content about them but it's usually reaction videos. After seeing folks make video essays about groups like BTS, I thought it would be nice if people did that for Seventeen because I think they do deserve it. While they are popular and successful, I don't think people always give them the credit or acknowledgement they deserve (which honestly *kinda* works for the group because it makes their wins and praise feel even more earned and authentic) Anyhoo, I'm glad you made you made a video on them and I'm glad I found it.
When I start to stan Seventeen, they became my standard. They have everything and always so proud of them. It also made me cry when they are recognized for something that they really deserved for a long time. Stan Seventeen, stan real talent.. And you will never disappoint.
I don't think so seventeen is underrated its like the are mostly under appreciated by the whole kpop community in general. They killing it everytime with their music. I need woozi's and bumzu's brain cause how the hell they us bop! Everytime not only in title track but b - sides and unit songs too.
I will say this until the day I quite literally DIE. Seventeen WOULD NOT BE Seventeen without all thirteen members This is because each member has done something for the group, whether that be producing music (Woozi, S.coups and Vernon), creating choreography (Hoshi, Dino, Jun and The8), becoming a variety superstar and going on multiple different variety shows to promote Seventeen in their early stages (Seungkwan), providing ethereal visuals that get people hooked into wanting to know who they are ( Jeonghan, Joshua, Wonwoo and Mingyu), or just being a pure body of sunshine that helps every member push through darker times and provide support, smiles, and laughter to the fans and group (Dokyeom). Every member did something for Seventeen to help them achieve the status and fame they have today. Many people know Seventeen as that one group who are strong performers and funny entertainers, as Seventeen has this unique feeling (as u stated towards the end) where they are 13 talented boys who love their job and work hard all while still having FUN. They are fully self-produced as they joined Pledis in 2015 (Pledis was quite broke at the time as they only joined Hybe in 2020) and were put with complete strangers who all wanted to debut. Now I could get in the specifics of how their pre-debut life was like, but I won’t because then this would quite literally turn into an essay. All you really need to know is that their debut music video (Adore U) was only made possible because one of the staff members sold their house to have enough money, as well as Vernon’s editing skills and Wonwoo’s laptop gifted by his father. That is how the now famous group, seventeen, started out with. Sure everyone knows who Seventeen is if they listen to k-pop, but it still feels like they are put in the shadows, but what I like to say, “so what?”. Sure, it would be amazing to see them get more popular and have the true level of fame they deserve, but its also nice to be apart of the fandom, Carats, who will do everything and anything to protect the somewhat hidden gem. Whether that be shutting down false articles that state malicious comments about Seventeen or just correcting posts on social media who made comments about Seventeen. Many fandoms of bigger groups like Seventeen (Blackpink, BTS, Stray Kids, etc.) have harsher fan bases who fight with other groups and make their own group look bad, (No hate to any of the groups they make great music and are amazing idol). Carats are kinda known for being that chill fandom, who work hard to protect Seventeen, but don’t start fights with other fandoms that could potentially harm Seventeen. Seventeen is made this famous because of their hard work, but have stayed protected and don’t have many controversies because of their fandom. All around Seventeen has surrounded themselves with great people and a great fandom who look up to them. Many new idols also look up to Seventeen and it becomes no surprise that they have become as known as they are. They are a group of 13 men who have grown together in talent, relationship, and mentality and will stay with each other until the end. Its not always only about the music, its also sometimes about how close the group and members are to each other that brings the fame and have fans stay. Theres a lot more I could say about Seventeen, but I think its best I end it here. With Seventeen now starting military enlistment its going to feel different, but we have to stay patient until 2030/31 when they are all back. With that being said, I hope you enjoy my yap fest about Seventeen and I’m genuinely so proud of all 13 of them. (P.S. amazing video Josh!!!)
DON'T READ !!! (It's embarassing... I'm basically ranting ) I found seventeen when i needed them the most , I was struggling to keep up with my studies and the institute... And lost all my confidence and then i saw a video recommendation of a ep of going seventeen (gose) they are full of talent , humor and experience they have their own set of back downs and lastly were able to succeed nd their journey was so intresting that i kept watching them grow more and more . Got to know that hardwork really pays off (also it was also during Covid19 ... a bunch of people in my family were in quarantine including me honestly it was a tough time for everyone ) I'm glad i found them or rather they found me I'm just really glad to know who these amazing talented people are ... nd PROUD TO BE A CARAT !! ❤️ Always love and support them !!! 😭 Fighting!
Thank you for this video! Honestly svt is somewhat underrated and many ppl just see them for their funny side and not actually their music so as a carat I highly appreciate you for analyzing their discography and recognizing them for their art🤍
They are always committed to their act be it music dance variety you may like it or not but you could never say that they do anything half heartedly..for 10 DAMN YEARS..
For me SEVENTEEN is like the most well rounded and complete group like they have everything from amazing dance, incredible vocals,crazy good raps and funny and chaotic as hell✨✨✨✨✨
This is why Seventeen, Stray Kids, and BTS are my favourite groups, all three of them have a few things in common that make them so amazing. Between writing and producing their own music, to even some of their dances. The amazing variety of rappers and singers. Truly the best kpop groups in my opinion.
i rarely leave comments but i cant just go about my day after this!!!!! as short as it was, it truly got the essence of what carats love about seventeen. its easy to talk about their bond as a group, but talking about /just/ how talented they are can get so overwhelming because where do I start without talking someone's ear off. but this video, in 8 minutes, did it so so so incredibly well. thank you for this and the seventeen appreciation :))))
Loved this video so much!! I recently got into seventeen and regretted following them so late and I have never loved a group as much as seventeen. Every member is a master at their craft and so sincere about music and performance in general. Appreciate this video so much!
Such a well put-together video! You had me with the thumbnail and stuck around to finish the video cuz it was engaging, informative and so fresh. You do a great job in analysing the more technical aspects and thenn explaining them. You have a new follower!!
I am proud of my 13 gems. And I love it when people recognise their beautiful songs. Apart from being the chaotic, synchronised and talented group they're great vocalists and musicians.❤
after bts , seventeen is only kpop who puts their own idea , very creativity in their songs and performance , they r best in rap , dance and vocals ,. they r amazing . i feel they deserve more . whenever i saw their performance it make me feel amzing .
I'm army and carat, but I'd venture to say that Seventeen is better than BTS when it comes to the development and demonstration of individual or group skills. For example, although Mingyu, Wonwoo, Scoups and Vernon are responsible for the group's rapping, they still manage to do incredible vocals like Wonwoo in his song ‘Leftover’. They don't limit themselves to just one role, which I don't see in Namjoon, Jhope and Yoongi.
@@hanna8844 as an army and carat I disagree slightly, what you said about the hip-hop unit is true they don't limit themselves to just rap and have some amazing vocals and dance however the rapline in bts is not limited to one role either, all three are producers and composers and have been experimenting with vocals in their solo work.
Aah i loved the video so much 🥺 I'm really happy that yes my self producing idols are getting praised for what they do so diligently 🙌🏻 Loved how much woozi was mentioned along with bumzu-nim. They both deserve all the praise ❤ Also my horangi ^^ perf team vocal team n hip hop team deserve the compliments they all put so much effort in everything they do I love my hardworking idols so much 😭🫶🏻
Stumbled upon this video on my page and I'm glad I watched it. As a CARAT, I'm really proud of SVT and get giddy when people talk about them! My standards are waaaaaay high up coz of SVT and definitely they are deserving of many things 💖
Thanks for this well put video! Love the editing and content, especially the natural growth part. You're so on point on that. Brb, gonna spread this video to my carat friends^^
Seventeen is my youth. I’m the same as Seungkwan and Vernon, so we went through similar stages of life during the same time (with the rest of act as well). Being comforted by their songs through uncertainty of growing up meant a lot. Forever grateful. The thing I admire the most is that they’re all still together. 10 years, 13 members, different backgrounds and personalities… Their bond is so strong . I know they’re popular and getting a lot of recognition nowadays but.. they deserved this years ago. I just hope the industry is kind to them from now on.
seventeen is a strange oxymoron-- almost anyone and everyone who knows anything about kpop knows who they are, but the vast majority dont know much ABOUT them, much less that theyre one of the standout self producing groups. many people forget that in their early years they stood shoulder to shoulder with BTS, and had almost the same origin story-- a self produced group that fought against the odds and saved their conpany from bankruptcy singlehandedly. they're well known but underappreciated, and i hope more people recognise them in the future, maybe even because of this video
Normally when a group starts experimenting with different sounds and concepts they lose a bunch of fans because it's kind of an uncanny valley feeling but for music. Seventeen never really had that problem since Woozi and Bumzu have always been there, even if it's a different genre it still sounds like Seventeen.
Love my man getting his recognition!! This video just took me right back to when i first discovered seventeen and binge watched videos about the delayed drops and just their music as av whole. i love this
So glad I found this video. I'm so proud of the success of Seventeen so far and as a 'newer' fan (I started listening to them at the start of 2023) I feel as though they have kind of been on an uphill projection the last few years. Not that they weren't popular or successful before but as someone newer, it feels as though they are finally getting their flowers and recognition for how hard they work on not only their talents for performing but also their dedication to putting out content for carats. I'm so lucky I became a fan.
i’ve been into kpop since 2018. and yet seventeen is the first one i’ve ever EVER been so in love with, so proud of, and so obsessed with. my favorite people, my family, my comfort people. the meanings behind the songs, their infinite love for carats. you canNOT name a bad song, whether released or not. their visuals, talents and creativity are on a WHOLE nother level, i love being a carat
I love seventeen because they make sense to me in every damn way. The music, performances, personalities ,vibes , story literally every aspect! Love them soo soo much, carat since attacca and im still obsessed !!
leaving a like & comment for my boys. so fond of them. a video discussing svt's music? say less. love when someone can elaborate rly well abt what makes svt so impressive, esp when it comes to dissecting parts of their music bcs I feel like I rarely see ppl rly dig into it(?). love the editing btw! they've always been so consistent & although I can't always keep up with wtv they're up to rn bcs of irl business, I know that I can trust in woozi & svt to always be a comforting presence through their music & message. I also love that--if that man's not in the credits for producing like 99% of their discography, then he'll likely be credited for writing the song at the v least. feels v heartfelt & honest yk? I think that's what they do best. being their most vulnerable, down to earth, authentic self & connecting with ppl
the video ended so abruptly.. please do more of them since there's a lot to choose from, really wished for the video to be longer. and maybe other self-produced groups too, i like the way you can see a bit more with them since they can show a bit more of the process? love exploring the production side of the releases by myself, so it's always nice to see a video from you, nicely done!
It’s always been them for me, always and forever. Thank you for recognizing their incredible musical talent above all else, and really giving our Woozi (and Bumzu, of course) the credit he deserves. Even if he won’t give it to himself (he even apologized for last mini album 😢) I do listen to a lot of kpop, but very casually, but I could never be casual about them. They’re really my heart. They can’t make a bad song because they are the ones making it.
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i love my team i love my crew
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I love my team, I love my crew,
계속 달릴 수 있어 더 !!
I love my team, I love my crew
Me too, “I LOVE MY TEAM, I LOVE MY CREW” 🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥
I feel that Seventeen is well-known but underrated at the same time, as their songs are not as widely recognized as those of other HYBE groups. When I ask someone about Seventeen, they always say yes, but they are more familiar with the group's popularity rather than their great music. I feel like they deserve more recognition in the K-pop industry for their music.
agreed
Trueeee
THIS IS SO TRUE
THIS
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Vernon and S.coups is also very notable and especially Vernon that man is an Ace in everything
버논 da 🐐
You know what is one of the most things I love that group?
There is not a single song that Seventeen does not like because they cannot possibly. They're so proud of Woozi and so happy to make their own music.
They always discuss if the song is what they want, ALL 13 MEMBERS. Just imagine, 13 different people, 13 different tastes and styles, all of them agree and there is not a single sentence in their production process such as “Let's just do it even if you don't like or feel it, it's just one song c'mon”.
No, in Seventeen every member should agree with every single song bcs they care about all the songs and want it sound like Seventeen.
They want to provide the song that can be enjoyable for carats and for themselves.
And even if the song sounds childish they still love that song as every other songs.
I noticed that many groups are embarrassed or don’t like to perform some of the “cute, refreshing” songs, bcs they are all grown now. But Seventeen have special segment in their tour concerts to perform such song, they always make sure to include fun and cute songs such as Oh my, Mymy, Aju nice, Adore u, Pretty u and many more. They still love these songs bcs they are not just songs for them, but part of their life when they worked on these songs. They are proud to make their own music and all songs they have done are like sons for them.
The best group in kpop.💗
the last sentence! hands down one of the greatest groups in kpop. i feel so lucky i got to see them in one of their stops for their current concert and their pride for their own music and performances is so apparent and it was such a great time watching them. ive never seen a group be so happy to perform and be idols. i love them!
Yeah, I don't know where I saw it but I still remember that every member of seventeen have to agree to all of the songs. Every member have to give their feedback for every song. And at that time I thought, so that's why there is not even a single song that I don't like
I always say that i need woozi's brain to be studied, because of how amazing he is, i don't how he does it, for so many years always finding a way to up themselves from they're last comeback it's crazy. And to think he's someone who likes staying inside, okay, fine, i do too, but still
Overall, i really admire woozi. I really want to be as creative as him
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my 🐐 woozi 😭
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Baaaaa😮💨❤
0:47 seriously out of everything that clip 👀💀💀💀
god of light music 🔥🔥
GOLM definitely gonna be written in his music career in golden words😂😂😂 #ShoutOut_to_BOMG
the one that woozi desperately wants not to be counted in his career😂😂😂😂😂
@@itsme_charlyBut still officially released it 😂😂
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I've always felt that Seventeen’s music has a way of touching hearts, bringing joy, and making every moment feel special. Woozi’s talent as a producer is incredible-you can feel the passion and effort in every song. Their music isn’t just something to listen to; it’s something to feel and connect with.
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Idk why but sometimes I actually feel SVT is one of the underrated groups...their self producing skills attracted me towards them and now it's been 5 years since I'm stanning them..I'm so proud of my boys and the fun fact is they never disappoint them with their music...they've always been trending and I can proudly say that I'm a svt stan aka a carat!
They deserves more recognition in this industry and I hope they will!!
Honestly they are famous but yet so underrated ,whether at the entertainment level or at the musical level they are just incredible and they deserve so much more visibility and recognition ,whether at the entertainment level or at the musical level they are just incredible and they deserve so much more visibility and recognition. They will soon be in the industry for 10 years and they have never disappointed, I hope we will give them the visibility they deserve, stan seveteen for a better life y'all
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I love seventeen's music and performance so so much. They are masters in their game. As an aspiring music producer myself, I loved this video so much. Thanks for such quality content!!
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As someone who has been following Kpop for over a decade now, they’re literally the only group I still stan. I’m so glad that their rising global popularity hasn’t exactly altered their “kpop”-iness (which has happened a lot for other groups and made me lose interest…). Additionally SVT’s concerts are the only ones that feel like home to me cuz of how amazingly natural they are in being able to interact and hype up Carats. Not only that, it’s so inspiring how all 13 members genuinely care and support each other 🥺 hope they continue to stay together for many more years to come. Forever a Carat 💎💗
Just how didn't want this video to end.... My boys really deserve so much more praise and success becauss they deserve it
2:46 no but this is such a seventeen song
Seventeen has such a diverse discography.......And they rock every concept...."Seventeen makes music that embodies them"🙌 ....you really described them very well...they are 13,talented and hard working hilarious guysss
what i love abt seventeen aside from their creativity is their passion and enthusiastic love abt making art that they’re proud of. aside from gose and their variety content, one of my favorite svt content are the behind the scenes of their production. i love love love watching them form ideas, bounce those ideas off each other, and the enthusiasm they share when doing it. heck even in nana tour we get a glimpse of how music and making music is really ingrained with them no matter what what with the improv singing while they’re drunk, random guitar jamming sessions, and the creation of the nana tour opening. i often say stanning seventeen isnt enough, i need to be let into their studio and get a close look at how they do things while creating their music because they’re just that good and so interesting and their passion and love for the art of music is so contagious. got to see them in their current world tour and the performances are superb too and the arrangement of their music with their live band was nuts. they’re amazing performers. stanning svt was one of the best decisions i made in my life they reminded me of how much i love listening to music. im so proud to say im a carat bc of them :)
wow wow wow
svt was the last group I thought youd make a video on beacsue they have an INSANELY LARGE discography and soooo many different genres and 3 diff units that make such varying music from on another
but i love the direction u took this video in
i agree that funkiness is one of svts top qualities in their music
i love the praise you showered on woozi
i love how u complimented how all the rappers are integrated so well in their songs and their parts dont sound out of place unlike in other kpop songs
i love that you comlimented the vocal teams harmonies!!
and what hasnt already been said about svts performances
great video!!
our 🐐s bumzu and woozi
seventeen are popular but they really deserve more recognition, I have been a carat for 7 years and I’m really proud of them, I hope they get more popular 🫶🏻
dude i never wouldve thought to be a like dedicated kpop fan bcs of how it is but like its only recent that i found seventeen and i was like hooked. their creativity was literally a love at first sight for me and its no wonder why i never loved a group of musicians so much. they feel so natural, authentic, and they experiment with genres which is rare now a days imo. amazing vid man 🙏
THANK YOUUUU 😭❤️ You covered everything I love about SEVENTEEN!!
• They’re a self-produced group.
• WOOZI’s genius obsession with delayed drops and his unique musical style.
• Their discography feels like an emotional journey.
• Each member has individual skills that elevate their performances.
• They’re an evenly structured group, with each unit (Vocal, Hip-hop, Performance) perfectly coordinating their roles.
• All 13 members could debut as successful solo artists! they can sing, rap, and dance!
• Their choreography is always fresh, detailed, and clean! never repetitive.
• They’re hilarious and genuinely good people.
They’re the only artists I stan and support because they are simply PERFECT 💖💎
tbh their extensive range of songs and diverse discography lowkey got me deep into musicality or production interests and discovery of various genres intensely.
appreciate you highlighting their craft and artistic vision! thanks for the brief yet powerful summary!
I recently discovered seventeen and now I am obsessed with them ❣️
Welcome to the diamond life 💎😊
I've been a carat for only 4 years but something i noticed about svt's popularity is that, yes, they're really big now but they just don't have enough hype to support that popularity. what i noticed too is that their fame did not came from one viral song. although we know they've made some of the greatest hits in their entire career but they went up in the industry from bottom to top slowly, steadily but definitely sure. They are that group that I'm sure has a loyal fanbase already and i can really see them last much longer in the industry. but given how competitive the industry is, they must remain present and visible. i salute woozi (and bumzu) for being so hard working in creating music. i mean, we're so well fed honestly, every year we get 1-2 comebacks excluding the Japanese ones. svt has always been doing their part and the fandom can only do so much. I'm just saying, when it comes to popularity, virality of every artists' releases is something we cannot predict or control of but it has always been something i wish for svt. i wont sugarcoat it anymore if i say i want svt to achieve SOTY, top the billboard, had their song being played to everywhere and people dancing along with it. I want all those for svt. I want them RECOGNITION more than they get now. and I'm so sure svt wants that too. 10 years in the industry but they've made clearly how much more they wanna achieve. and I hope they really do. as of now the fandom can only do so much, svt will always pour everything to their craft and the rest is up to well, i guess luck. and the general public's taste lol.
excuse my grammar, sorry!
thisis making me emotional ..the woozi and seventeen appreaction we need
I don't know about other countries but in my country many people listen svt's music without knowing who they are , i met many persons who are just music lovers and in their Playlist they have added many svt's songs like hit, aju nice, ash , shadow , adore u etc but they don't know who seventeen is but they have added it because according to them their songs are so good , when i asked them how did they find svt's music they just said that they have heared their songs on reels
Omgg this happened to me too, I used to listen to their songs and even remembered the lyrics even when I don't really listen to them, never even added them to my playlist but the song was just played randomly and it stuck in my head. It was when I finally committed to become a carat that I realized that all those fantastic songs are from svt. Actually I do know them from their debut days but I only know mansae and aju nice back then, never thought that don't wanna cry, thanks, left & right, homerun, baksu, beautiful, pretty u, home, happy ending, hit and many more are from them. Their music for me is quite well known in my country cause at that time I've left my kpop fangirling era for about 5 years by listening to more jpop but still manage to listen to them
ps: I'm from Malaysia btw😊
They're underrated cause hate to quote him but as bsh said "its not all about talent" this industry is fickle and Svt is one of the few survivors.
The more u dive in SVT songs..the more u love SVT's music... indeed. Uri SVT.. ofc Uji Bumzu.. Salute 👏💎❤
this video needs a million views
6:00 Tiger recognition!!! ❤️🐯❤️
Thank you so much for making such a well-researched video for SEVENTEEN. As a carat myself I feel their music is still super underrated in k-pop. SVT has a zero skip discography and Woozi has only perfected his musicality genius and artistry with every comeback! The variety in their discography is insaneeee! I would urge more people to listen to their B-Sides! Shoutout to Vernon who participates in production too and adds elements of Hyperpop in their production!
After Woozi, Vernon is the most active in music production. Recently he produced 2 songs from The8’s album Starlight. Also been producing songs outside SVT. And ofc his rap is top-tier. I love his flow so much.
You took out time and researched for this video so thoroughly. It's a very well made video
I just got into Seventeen in October 2024 and since then, I've seen alot of content about them but it's usually reaction videos. After seeing folks make video essays about groups like BTS, I thought it would be nice if people did that for Seventeen because I think they do deserve it.
While they are popular and successful, I don't think people always give them the credit or acknowledgement they deserve (which honestly *kinda* works for the group because it makes their wins and praise feel even more earned and authentic)
Anyhoo, I'm glad you made you made a video on them and I'm glad I found it.
When I start to stan Seventeen, they became my standard. They have everything and always so proud of them. It also made me cry when they are recognized for something that they really deserved for a long time. Stan Seventeen, stan real talent.. And you will never disappoint.
I don't think so seventeen is underrated its like the are mostly under appreciated by the whole kpop community in general.
They killing it everytime with their music. I need woozi's and bumzu's brain cause how the hell they us bop! Everytime not only in title track but b - sides and unit songs too.
I will say this until the day I quite literally DIE.
Seventeen WOULD NOT BE Seventeen without all thirteen members
This is because each member has done something for the group, whether that be producing music (Woozi, S.coups and Vernon), creating choreography (Hoshi, Dino, Jun and The8), becoming a variety superstar and going on multiple different variety shows to promote Seventeen in their early stages (Seungkwan), providing ethereal visuals that get people hooked into wanting to know who they are ( Jeonghan, Joshua, Wonwoo and Mingyu), or just being a pure body of sunshine that helps every member push through darker times and provide support, smiles, and laughter to the fans and group (Dokyeom). Every member did something for Seventeen to help them achieve the status and fame they have today.
Many people know Seventeen as that one group who are strong performers and funny entertainers, as Seventeen has this unique feeling (as u stated towards the end) where they are 13 talented boys who love their job and work hard all while still having FUN. They are fully self-produced as they joined Pledis in 2015 (Pledis was quite broke at the time as they only joined Hybe in 2020) and were put with complete strangers who all wanted to debut. Now I could get in the specifics of how their pre-debut life was like, but I won’t because then this would quite literally turn into an essay. All you really need to know is that their debut music video (Adore U) was only made possible because one of the staff members sold their house to have enough money, as well as Vernon’s editing skills and Wonwoo’s laptop gifted by his father. That is how the now famous group, seventeen, started out with.
Sure everyone knows who Seventeen is if they listen to k-pop, but it still feels like they are put in the shadows, but what I like to say, “so what?”. Sure, it would be amazing to see them get more popular and have the true level of fame they deserve, but its also nice to be apart of the fandom, Carats, who will do everything and anything to protect the somewhat hidden gem. Whether that be shutting down false articles that state malicious comments about Seventeen or just correcting posts on social media who made comments about Seventeen. Many fandoms of bigger groups like Seventeen (Blackpink, BTS, Stray Kids, etc.) have harsher fan bases who fight with other groups and make their own group look bad, (No hate to any of the groups they make great music and are amazing idol). Carats are kinda known for being that chill fandom, who work hard to protect Seventeen, but don’t start fights with other fandoms that could potentially harm Seventeen. Seventeen is made this famous because of their hard work, but have stayed protected and don’t have many controversies because of their fandom.
All around Seventeen has surrounded themselves with great people and a great fandom who look up to them. Many new idols also look up to Seventeen and it becomes no surprise that they have become as known as they are. They are a group of 13 men who have grown together in talent, relationship, and mentality and will stay with each other until the end. Its not always only about the music, its also sometimes about how close the group and members are to each other that brings the fame and have fans stay. Theres a lot more I could say about Seventeen, but I think its best I end it here.
With Seventeen now starting military enlistment its going to feel different, but we have to stay patient until 2030/31 when they are all back. With that being said, I hope you enjoy my yap fest about Seventeen and I’m genuinely so proud of all 13 of them.
(P.S. amazing video Josh!!!)
Thank you. Now whenever someone asks me why i stan seventeen, I'll just show them this 😂
DON'T READ !!! (It's embarassing... I'm basically ranting )
I found seventeen when i needed them the most , I was struggling to keep up with my studies and the institute... And lost all my confidence and then i saw a video recommendation of a ep of going seventeen (gose) they are full of talent , humor and experience they have their own set of back downs and lastly were able to succeed nd their journey was so intresting that i kept watching them grow more and more .
Got to know that hardwork really pays off (also it was also during Covid19 ... a bunch of people in my family were in quarantine including me honestly it was a tough time for everyone ) I'm glad i found them or rather they found me I'm just really glad to know who these amazing talented people are ... nd PROUD TO BE A CARAT !! ❤️
Always love and support them !!! 😭 Fighting!
Thank you for this video! Honestly svt is somewhat underrated and many ppl just see them for their funny side and not actually their music so as a carat I highly appreciate you for analyzing their discography and recognizing them for their art🤍
They are always committed to their act be it music dance variety you may like it or not but you could never say that they do anything half heartedly..for 10 DAMN YEARS..
For me SEVENTEEN is like the most well rounded and complete group like they have everything from amazing dance, incredible vocals,crazy good raps and funny and chaotic as hell✨✨✨✨✨
super in depth video josh thank you so much for the analysis as always 🙏
top kid
honestly tho? i would LOVE to see you dig deeper into their music. love the way you explained it
Sometimes I really want to gatekeep seventeen to just myself but they deserve this popularity so gooooooo yessssss ill always support you guys 🫶🫶
Thanks for the video. As a carat, you pointed out some of the same elements I noticed as a fan. Great analysis.
Seventeen deserves more recognition for their talents ✨️
This is why Seventeen, Stray Kids, and BTS are my favourite groups, all three of them have a few things in common that make them so amazing. Between writing and producing their own music, to even some of their dances. The amazing variety of rappers and singers. Truly the best kpop groups in my opinion.
i rarely leave comments but i cant just go about my day after this!!!!! as short as it was, it truly got the essence of what carats love about seventeen. its easy to talk about their bond as a group, but talking about /just/ how talented they are can get so overwhelming because where do I start without talking someone's ear off. but this video, in 8 minutes, did it so so so incredibly well. thank you for this and the seventeen appreciation :))))
Loved this video so much!! I recently got into seventeen and regretted following them so late and I have never loved a group as much as seventeen. Every member is a master at their craft and so sincere about music and performance in general. Appreciate this video so much!
their discography is INSANE
such great analysis thank u for this video !!!!
I like it you covered my favourite group SVT, Thanks man!!! Appreciate the effort!!
Such a well put-together video! You had me with the thumbnail and stuck around to finish the video cuz it was engaging, informative and so fresh. You do a great job in analysing the more technical aspects and thenn explaining them. You have a new follower!!
I am proud of my 13 gems. And I love it when people recognise their beautiful songs. Apart from being the chaotic, synchronised and talented group they're great vocalists and musicians.❤
after bts , seventeen is only kpop who puts their own idea , very creativity in their songs and performance , they r best in rap , dance and vocals ,. they r amazing . i feel they deserve more . whenever i saw their performance it make me feel amzing .
I'm seventeen fan, but straykids too, produce their own songs, 3racha if that's correct 😊
I'm army and carat, but I'd venture to say that Seventeen is better than BTS when it comes to the development and demonstration of individual or group skills. For example, although Mingyu, Wonwoo, Scoups and Vernon are responsible for the group's rapping, they still manage to do incredible vocals like Wonwoo in his song ‘Leftover’. They don't limit themselves to just one role, which I don't see in Namjoon, Jhope and Yoongi.
@@hanna8844 as an army and carat I disagree slightly, what you said about the hip-hop unit is true they don't limit themselves to just rap and have some amazing vocals and dance however the rapline in bts is not limited to one role either, all three are producers and composers and have been experimenting with vocals in their solo work.
I agree but you also need to note Stray Kids, they write and produce about 98-99% of all their music and have even choreographed some of their dances.
i really wanted people to know the diverse discography they have! I am glad you acknowledged this😊
Aah i loved the video so much 🥺 I'm really happy that yes my self producing idols are getting praised for what they do so diligently 🙌🏻
Loved how much woozi was mentioned along with bumzu-nim. They both deserve all the praise ❤
Also my horangi ^^ perf team vocal team n hip hop team deserve the compliments they all put so much effort in everything they do
I love my hardworking idols so much 😭🫶🏻
really beautiful explanation of our seventeen
I love how you explained SEVENTEEN'S music so clearly. I've loved their music since 2018, so this breakdown was really helpful!
Seventeen right here!!!!
PROUD TO BE A CARAT!!!
I love this video the most. As a carat I appreciate this a lot!!
Tysm for this … I love seventeen so much
Yes, I agree with you. There are many talents and thank you.
As a carat who listen to their whole discography you wont regret i swear on god man.
Uri Seventeen!!!!! 💎💗💙 Thank you for giving them some much deserved love & recognition!!! 🥰👍
svt's musicality hits different ❤
They need more and more recognition.
They deserve it so much.
They are so talented😭❤️❤️💎👑
ohh loved the vid! svt as always serving! also would love to see your take on audio panning in kpop and how it affects the songs atmosphere!
Stumbled upon this video on my page and I'm glad I watched it. As a CARAT, I'm really proud of SVT and get giddy when people talk about them! My standards are waaaaaay high up coz of SVT and definitely they are deserving of many things 💖
This is not even a biased statement it is actually factual and astonishing how they do it. ALWAYS WILL BE A CARAT♥️♥️
it's been a long time I came across a great video like this, Thank you so much
I love your videos and svt is my favourite group this is like the best 8 minutes of my life
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Lovely Video! I wish Seventeen got more recognition for their Diverse Discography
Amazing video. Seventeen is just great. I get amazed by them every single day😌❤️
Thanks for this well put video! Love the editing and content, especially the natural growth part. You're so on point on that. Brb, gonna spread this video to my carat friends^^
Thank you so much for breaking some of the musical technicalities all down for us. I’ve always like Woozi but now he jumped way up in my bias lineup ☺
I believe this requires part 2...
Seventeen is my youth. I’m the same as Seungkwan and Vernon, so we went through similar stages of life during the same time (with the rest of act as well). Being comforted by their songs through uncertainty of growing up meant a lot. Forever grateful.
The thing I admire the most is that they’re all still together. 10 years, 13 members, different backgrounds and personalities… Their bond is so strong .
I know they’re popular and getting a lot of recognition nowadays but.. they deserved this years ago. I just hope the industry is kind to them from now on.
"Hit" will always ne THAT song
Thank you! From the bottom of my caratdeul heart ❤
This video is so well made❤
seventeen is a strange oxymoron-- almost anyone and everyone who knows anything about kpop knows who they are, but the vast majority dont know much ABOUT them, much less that theyre one of the standout self producing groups. many people forget that in their early years they stood shoulder to shoulder with BTS, and had almost the same origin story-- a self produced group that fought against the odds and saved their conpany from bankruptcy singlehandedly. they're well known but underappreciated, and i hope more people recognise them in the future, maybe even because of this video
Bro makes the video more interesting and intriguing every time
Normally when a group starts experimenting with different sounds and concepts they lose a bunch of fans because it's kind of an uncanny valley feeling but for music. Seventeen never really had that problem since Woozi and Bumzu have always been there, even if it's a different genre it still sounds like Seventeen.
I love this series:)))
Love my man getting his recognition!! This video just took me right back to when i first discovered seventeen and binge watched videos about the delayed drops and just their music as av whole. i love this
absolutely!! they have revived the true essence of kpop. no one can top their level of artistry
So glad I found this video. I'm so proud of the success of Seventeen so far and as a 'newer' fan (I started listening to them at the start of 2023) I feel as though they have kind of been on an uphill projection the last few years. Not that they weren't popular or successful before but as someone newer, it feels as though they are finally getting their flowers and recognition for how hard they work on not only their talents for performing but also their dedication to putting out content for carats. I'm so lucky I became a fan.
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ur here!!!love ur vidsss
@fojames glad to hear it!
i’ve been into kpop since 2018. and yet seventeen is the first one i’ve ever EVER been so in love with, so proud of, and so obsessed with. my favorite people, my family, my comfort people. the meanings behind the songs, their infinite love for carats. you canNOT name a bad song, whether released or not. their visuals, talents and creativity are on a WHOLE nother level, i love being a carat
They're the pride of the Kpop industry!
I love seventeen because they make sense to me in every damn way. The music, performances, personalities ,vibes , story literally every aspect! Love them soo soo much, carat since attacca and im still obsessed !!
leaving a like & comment for my boys. so fond of them. a video discussing svt's music? say less. love when someone can elaborate rly well abt what makes svt so impressive, esp when it comes to dissecting parts of their music bcs I feel like I rarely see ppl rly dig into it(?). love the editing btw!
they've always been so consistent & although I can't always keep up with wtv they're up to rn bcs of irl business, I know that I can trust in woozi & svt to always be a comforting presence through their music & message. I also love that--if that man's not in the credits for producing like 99% of their discography, then he'll likely be credited for writing the song at the v least. feels v heartfelt & honest yk? I think that's what they do best. being their most vulnerable, down to earth, authentic self & connecting with ppl
7:32 That’s right
They have fun and stay humble ❤
And that’s super attractive.
I cannot help but admire and love them
LOOOVED the breakdown of their whole discography!
13 talented, visuals and geniuses sticking together for this long only means they love what they do, their music, their craft and their group.
the video ended so abruptly.. please do more of them since there's a lot to choose from, really wished for the video to be longer. and maybe other self-produced groups too, i like the way you can see a bit more with them since they can show a bit more of the process? love exploring the production side of the releases by myself, so it's always nice to see a video from you, nicely done!
It’s always been them for me, always and forever. Thank you for recognizing their incredible musical talent above all else, and really giving our Woozi (and Bumzu, of course) the credit he deserves. Even if he won’t give it to himself (he even apologized for last mini album 😢)
I do listen to a lot of kpop, but very casually, but I could never be casual about them. They’re really my heart.
They can’t make a bad song because they are the ones making it.