Realpolitiks - Those Who Do Not Learn History...
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025
- Realpolitiks is a political strategy game with a ludicrous amount of depth, that challenges you to carefully balance diplomatic, military, political and domestic concerns... Sometimes with slightly unexpected results...
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I remember having a class project in my sophomore year where we controlled our own countries. The countries were randomly selected via generator and I was given Turkmenistan. I formed Turkmenistan into a military powerhouse and ended up invading all the territories near me before NATO saw me as a threat and stomped me out •-• RIP Glorious Turkmenistan military, you will be missed...
Aidan Lappin Basically you formed alliances, made enemies, traded with other nations and the battles were determined by basic military strength so of course NATO would absolutely demolish Turkmenistan
J. Ruiz thinking back to civ 5, the only thing that’s stopping my warlike friend from invading me is focusing trade with him. Invade me and his economy crash, low happiness and rebellion threaten his empire.
So, was there a way to stop your advances for war?
What game ?
@@bigolesteppa991I believe they just… did it themself without a game
"We can beat Russia in a big slugging Match"
- Hitler, Napoleon, Karl the 12th, Jon.
They are making that same mistake again in 2024 🤣
Did john just "accidentally" start the 4th reich?
I think so
jon* and probably yes
Looks like it.
well.. we are about due for it I guess Oo
That feel when you try to Schengen Area but you accidentally Lebensraum the whole continent.
Jon, I don't know what kind of sources you have, but Kaliningrad is not "tiny", it really is the size it is portrayed in the game. It's actually slightly bigger than Nothern Ireland. And total population of the area is almost a million people (significantly more than 40 thousand you said).
Kiwi Umm actually u are both really wrong
Insert Clickbate Kaliningrad Oblast has a population of 940,000 people, which I'd classify as "almost a million people".
N. Ireland is ~14 Million km2 and Kaliningrad O. is ~ 15 Million km2.
So how is he/she wrong?
It is actually 14 and 15 thousand km2, not million. But yeah, how am I wrong, Insert?
Kiwi I just realised that 15 Million km2 would be ridiculous. It is indeed 15,000, not 15,000,000 :D
you just wanted to sound smart but you are actually very stupid arent you?
"We can probably just beat Russia in a straight slugging match."
JON, THIS NEVER ENDS WELL.
We'll find out irl soon enough
@@dwylaw fuckin oof
It's so far going decently
Historically everyone beats Russia apart from ww2 and Napoleon 😂
@@dwylaw They are still at it, so I would say it's not going well for Russia.
Kalinigrad is actually as big as they made it look in this game and there are close to 1 million people living there, not 40.000.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaliningrad_Oblast
The figure I saw may just have been for the main port city...?
Yeah possibly. The main city of Kalinigrad has about 400.000 so you may have read it as 40.000? Nonetheless, nice video dude. This looks like an interesting game!
LazyBusiness it would appear I have been beaten to my comment!!!
Yea Kaliningrad continues to be quite the big deal since the Russians keep throwing more and more weapons systems into it.
soon enough they'll cut it from the ground, give it guns and massive wheels, just drive it anywhere there's a war
"Oh god Germany, not again!"
I haven't laughed that hard at one of your videos in a LONG time.
BRUXXUS you need to watch his tank dating simulator
Andrew Murphy That's probably the last time I laughed that hard. :P
Kaliningrad used to be called Königsberg as was part of Prussia and then Germany. USSR took it off the Germans after WWII and deported all the Germans, destroyed the Prussian culture there and replaced them with Russians. Similar to what they did with a group of Japanese islands, which is why Russia and Japan are still technically at war from WWII as they never signed a peace treaty due to the disputed islands.
Themuffinman 123 Same as with Outer Manchuria too, Vladivostok grrrr...
Themuffinman 123 Meh, we could argue that the destruction of the Prussian culture came not long after the First World War when the SPD gained control of the Prussian House of Representatives. Of course, Prussia's king at that time , Wilhelm tried to retain kingship which was not applicable under the constitution. After that the situation continued on a constant negative gradient once it became part of the Weimar Republic ( known as the Republic of Prussia which we couldn't really call a republic )
Not only. Over 350 000 people ware evacuated from East Prussia by the Wehrmacht. They knew what was coming. The Russians wanted vengeance for what the Germans did in their territory. There are horror stories from Berlin after the war. The fist question woman ware asking each other every time they met was "how many" - not how many relatives survived - how many times they ware raped by Russians since the last time they met. The same thing was going in Königsberg . The Russians deported all Germans from the area and demolished everything. I'm not sure if there is any Prussian statue even left there and replaced everything with Russian settlers. They considered this a punishment for Germany for invading them.
Themuffinman 123 technically they arent at war because the Russian Federation was never at war with Japan, so Japan is at war with a non existant country
mowtow90 Quite similar to what the Macedonians did to Persia when they invaded Persepolis in 330 BCE as a revenge for the destruction of Athens in the Persian Wars. Many argue that this consolidated the existence of the Eastern Roman Empire known as Byzantium later.
Oh, and I double checked the Steam page. It specifically says you can play as every country. And Islamic State is on the map as a country. Is this the first game ever to let you play as Islamic State...?
I believe so
Many A True Nerd if you include mods hearts of iron 4 the islamist state is also a country on the millennium dawn mod
Many A True Nerd what's odd is that while many 'countries' are on this game there are real legitimate countries not in this map like Liechtenstein
Geopolitical Simulator 4 has ISIS as a playable country I think
This game is a cheap EU4 HOI knockoff. Play the real deal Jon, but great work as always.
steps to repeat history:
1: try not to
2: make peace with poland, that will surely change everything
3: conquer the world
good job jon
5. Expand your government towards space and destroy everything, including the Mighty Ducks
6. Go back on your word a steamroll Poland, again.
Finally, a game that appears to cater to my political "fantasies" (can't think of a more appropriate word at the time) concerning modern politics.
And strangely enough, I am not joking on that...
When Germany wants to form a block with Austria bad things happen
Homo eructus and totalitarism also happened. I have a bad feelings about that
heinekencobra If you don't know Hitler annexed Austria before WW2
And there's WW1 Germany allying Austria-Hungary.
heinekencobra
We Germans are not supposed to experience 'real' fun because when we do bad things are going to happen.
That's why we wörk all the time.
bloc*
Jon... are you turning into another Grand Strategy channel? Cause I am totally okay with that.
XRonor98 oh shit it's a vorox
It's ok, I'm one from Bota Magna. ;)
you should make an non aggression pact with Russia and have them help you take over poland
Fascist Iran then invade russia
hey, i did all of the above in HOI4, only i won the game of ideologies.
(my invasion route was pretty straightforward, eat the swiss, eat the balkans, eat poland, eat france, then the lowlands, invite turkey+spain+japan to the axis, invade russia and invade the middle east as a way to get to encircle india, meanwhile try getting troops to england and finish them off.
oh, and support fascist revolutionaries in the americas
I'd love to see how that plays out in a game like this.
Poor Poland
Sounds oddly familiar...
it is now a fact. Putin plays video games. on the PC, laying on the couch for some reason
The Amazing Mollusk It is the properly Roman way to play videogames.
Nah, Putin grows a beard every night while he sleeps and shaves it off before doing his usual presidential stuff.
Hi from the future, so about that "Russia rebuilding the USSR" plot...
"Russia is trying to recreate the USSR." Today, that statement is hauntingly accurate.
Cringe
@@MichaelJ44 No u
The presence of ISIS in this game is the most hilarious example of something not aging well. ISIS/ISIL was largely defeated back in late 2017, reduced to only a local insurgency in Iraq, and hasn't been internationally relevant since.
Strange how accurate Russia’s agenda turned out to be considered this game is several years old.
Or it was wrong because for 8 years Russia forced the Donbas to remain within Ukraine. But sure lets pretend like NATO expansion from Germany in 1991 wasn't at all against the agreement to james baker and US government made to the russians.
Thats OK, I am sure all the soon to be cold citizens in europe cutting their nose off to spite their face are super happy with washingtons proxy war to destabilize europe and weaken russia. Nothing is better than watching europe implode because their 'friend' is charging them 5 times or higher for LNG that is ruining their economies and draining their coffers.
But hey as long as the USA gets oil and gas from Canada at a major discount, they can continue to offset their exports to europe for major profits. The 'North American energy platform'
USA=Empire...a very malicious one.
History teacher: How do you know so much about realpolitik?
Me: Uh......
you would love Europa Universalis 4. or Hearts of Iron.
on second thought, this is just an eu4 plus hoi4 ripoff. it's like if the extended time line mod were the base game
I could have sworn the map in the thumbnail is from EU4
But not Crusader kings 2.
Jon seems like the only child.
Creed and they copied it from Gerardus Mercator, tut tut tut
Any grand strategy game that takes place in the modern world = rip-off of paradox games
That comparison makes no sense. The politics in EU4 and HOI aren't as involved. They're much more about military strategy and taking over everything.
Jon this just confirms that you are the best grand strategy let's player imaginable. In work today I quite genuinely thought about the new Rome episode more than once, and I reserve that level of attention for really good games or exceptional TV shows, so well bloody done, and thank you very much.
Kaliningrad was actually, prior to 1945, part of Germany. It used to be called Konigsberg (literally Kingstown) and was the capital of the state of Prussia, the ancestral home of the Junker ruling class of the old German Empire. However, when the Soviets invaded Germany in 1945, the Germans in Prussia fled for their lives, and the region was de-germanized. After the war, the USSR was given Konigsberg and its surrounding area, while Poland got the rest of Prussia.
Also, the Netherlands' army trains in tandem with the Germans, it seems, for there are many Dutch-German coalition units (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I._German/Dutch_Corps), so thats probably why the game wants you to have an Alliance with the Netherlands.
Luke Freet What source did you use to write this as some of the information is quite inaccurate
Well I had researched some of this stuff a long while ago, but I might have forgotten some of it; also, I'm not great at explaining things.
The Oblast Kaliningrad is basically as big as it is represented and has about 1 Million Inhabitants. The City of Kaliningrad (Formerly known as the East-Prussian Königsberg and Birthplace of a lot of famous Germans like E.T.A. Hoffmann, Immanuel Kant or Hannah Arendt) itself has more than 400.000 Inhabitants. - the more you know :)
The first thing I did when i saw the world map was to look for Liechtenstein between Switzerland and Austria. My favorite country isn't there :(
I think this needs to be a series. I fucking love the way this looks.
Hi Jon, Thanks for making great videos!
You live!
When I saw the map on the thumbnail, I thought it was Rome Total War :(
Thomas Creamer same
Thuesday? That sounds like a fun day, when is it?
Oh, don't be like this, It was just a joke. Besides, Thuesday seems like a bit of what some would call... an enTHUEsiastic DAY? Eh? Yeah? Am I doing it right?
Prompted Hawk yeah sounds like you pulled a pun off :) gold Job!
Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.
It’s nice that I can go back and see my favorite politic game ^-^ wish you made more again
"Those Who Do Not Learn History..."
Don't you mean "Those Who Do Not Learn _From_ History...", Jon?
I actually double checked that - while my version is a corruption of the original 'Those Who Do Not Learn History' is the most commonly used version of the idiom.
Hm. I've always heard it as "... learn _from_ history..." Well, you're the one with a degree in Classics, so you would know what you're talking about.
I mean presumably if you don't learn history you can't learn from it.
for the love of all that is holy Jon, please do more!
Unite the world under the holy flag of the ManyTrueNerds!
"Oh God Germany not again!" I laughed way to hard when you said that
Before 1945, Kaliningrad was known as Königsberg, and was the capital of the Duchy of Prussia up until 1701. It was also the primary city in the east Prussian section of the German Reich that was split from the German mainland by Poland. In 1939 the Germans demanded that the Polish cede the city of Danzig and the surrounding land to Germany in order to connect the Reich together, when Poland refused Germany invaded and WW2 began.
"It might begin in 2020"
Me in 2020: You better hope not
4:55
I think you've just gotten yourself on a list there, Jon.
The Netherlands and Luxenburg have verry simmilar flags because it once was a dual monarchy.
I think it wasn't allowed in their laws
I actually learned about Kaliningrad in school.
This staring world map has aged a bit in March 2022...
Starting*
Great video as always, I'd love to see this become a series!
...This sounds just like the theoretical game I was complaining about not having and wishing it would exist... off to steam!
Jon, you never cease to amaze me. Oxford trained Classicist and never heard of Kaliningrad. But then again, it might be because you went to the other place and not to a proper University... :P
is your Why Not Wednesday series coming back Jon??
The devs are the same who made Men at War.
You had my interest, now you have my fullest attention
2020: Russia still occupying Crimea
I just jumped in and I love this game already, plz play more of the full game
MORE MORE MORE MORE
TOMORROW, THIS AND ROME: TOTAL WAR :D
Will it be this time again tomorrow?
Stop! Stop! I can only get so erect!!
Many A True Nerd yes yes yes yes yes. I love when you play grand strategy games
Oh this is going to be swell to watch.
Kaliningrad exclave is not so tiny. It used to be a grand teutonic, then german city. Nowadays it is just important strategic military and navy base, as well used to be a trading port.
Would you play hearts of iron 4?
keo chhun Too fucking expensive
Imperator Caesar Divi Filius Augustus $40? its cheaper than most games, CoD, BF1, Resident evil, etc.
40 dollars is half a days work for first-world citizens excluding taxes and bills. Also, the DLCs!
EU4 and CK2 are both cheaper and better
Half a day of work for a game you'll sink hundreds of hours into? Worth.
Maybe he could try EU4 aswell, 1 and a half days worth of work for a game to sink thousands of hours into and still find out new things and get better at the game without it becoming boring.
Of course, Paradox also constantly puts their games on sale, so it's not actually that expensive if you wait for a sale.
I'm expecting you to try Europa 4 now. Since you like historical strategy games and enjoy it when the game throws a spreadsheets of information at you, I think u would love the game. Total war is my favourite series because u are so passionate about the game and love the history it's based around. Europa allows you to be any nation present in the world during the late 15 century and play until the early 19 century, it is a very detailed game.
The Nazi invasion of Denmark took six hours.
To be fair, Denmark only resisted to give those who would be persecuted time to escape.
+heinekencobra pretty much.
Surprise Anschluss!
MORE! PLAY THIS MORE! MAKE THIS A SERIES!
That size of Kaliningrad is accurate, it also has about 10x the population that Jon said it has.
ColtonHD More like 25x
oh PLEASE make this a series
Oh god Germany not again Jon 2017
Things that will make this game so much better if implemented:
-Custom countries and scenarios
-Steam workshop support
They predicted what was going to happen in Ukraine with Crimea and that one eastern bit of Ukraine being owned by russia
I hope you make this into a full series :] really enjoyed this video
Hi Jon, on the off chance that you are reading this, how was your day?
Good day - recorded some more Hitman and enjoyed the stream with Dan just now :)
Love your Hitman content.
I saw the stream, it was great!
Darn, forgot it was Wednesday yesterday, i missed it.
Jon, several thing I want to say:
Luxemburg and the Netherlands have a similar flag becquse luxemburg was a province of the netherlands and only reached independence after belgium broke free.
second: kaliningrad is actually that large, it is not overestimated in the game at all.
Do a series in this game please
Herbiesainty I second that.
epic ending to the video lol. keep up the good work Jon. Fun fact, my family comes from Lithuania, and my great grandfather was actually forced into the Russian navy when the Russians came in and took over Lithuania. he survived all the way through world war 2 only to be killed by a truck in america trying to hitchhike to reunite with his family. (maybe fun wasn't the right word, but iv always found it an interesting bit of my family history.)
You really do just hate me sleeping
A, "Restore the Roman Empire," scenario sounds like a good time for Itally.
“Set in the future so like 2020, so Russia owns Crimea” yikes this aged well 🤣
Aw.. i wished you would have dived into the depth of (the purely cold-war- military) game of "Wargame - European Escalation" (or its follow-ups), cause i kind of love/hate its wealth of units and possible ways of achieving the mission-goals. And i liked to have seen your approach to it. But one can´t have everything and this is nice as well. Your a game-mechanics-scanning-genious, and you truly reached a perfect pro-level of commenting in a fun way at the same time.
Looks good, how much will it cost?
Olin57 It costs 25 dollars without the discount right now it's 18 dollars.
RJX 115 Thanks i actually just bought it lol
That ending haha !
I can already see Belgium preparing its stuff to leave, cause we're not getting rolled over a third time !
Hearts of Iron 4: Millennium Dawn Mod
BUT shittier and expensive.
Haven't played RealPolitiks so I can't judge, they are very different games i can see but I just commented it because Jon seemed shockingly surprised that ISIS was in the game and I didn't see it weird having played eu4 extended timeline years ago
Forgot the 40k and Total War in the title.
Handsome Kiddo Actually the game is 18 dollars right now so it's cheaper the any paradox game at the moment.
As for it being shittier well that's your opinion.
I tried playing as a small country and it felt kinda impossible.
You start with income of about 30 money per month given fortunate world economy and as soon as you implement a couple of policies - their upkeep takes that away and debt starts folding onto itself.
Only thing you can do is idle waiting for GDP to grow until you are destroyed by nearest superpower.
These developers are going to have all my money
I remember there was a strategy game just like that in the late 90's, called "Superpower 2", in which you could choose any country in the world and it also had a large amount of depth (I believe all the data pertaining to each country came from a CIA database or something). I remember it was quite easy to turn your country into a powerhouse, just by investing large amounts of money in education for a period of time. Who knew?
By looking up the name of this game, I found out it even has a Steam Edition.
you MUST try Europa Universalis 4!!!
I hope this ushers in an era of Jon playing GSGs. I would love to watch you play games like Crusader Kings 2!
my dude Jon. can u play as Antarctica?
Tragically, it's not a country on the map, so no.
Many A True Nerd so I have to wait for mods
Weeb Stick The game itself doesn't have mod support atlest right now but the devs are looking into adding it in the future.
"Whipped cream front" for denmark in ww2. The danish were given warning of the invasion and surrendered without either side losing troops after a 2 hour "Invasion". This gave them time to export most of their jews and such, and after that they spent the war making their place a vacation resort for the garrison to try and make them as nice an occupation as possible until the war ended. It worked reasonably well as the german garrison were quite a lot less likely to cause trouble when they were busy eating danish sweets.
can you play victoria 2 i think you will like it
As someone who has been interested in politics (well mainly European/North American) this is right up my alley. It's like a more up to date and prettier Superpower 2!
Thanks for bringing it to my attention MATN!
Russia can't object to the annexation of Kaliningrad. They did the same to the Crimea.
Sure, lets just simplify an extremely complicated topic into two sentences and pretend that covers it. Why not
Harry Davies It's a tad more complicated than you seem to think
James Price I know it's complicated, I just tried to make a joke
Seems like a pretty standard Grand Strategy game. glad you're finding them.
No Principality of Sealand... 0/10
TheGhostbuster1989 Pehaps one day
Kaliningrad, before WW2 was known as East Prussia. It has been hugely important for a long time. It contains the city of Memel, and a city which I can't remember the name to which used to be the capital of Prussia, before it became Berlin.
I was in Austria during the war. #plausibledeniability
It's about time somebody offered Paradox Interactive some real competition.
So when are you going to try EUIV or Victoria II on this channel?
so the game is set in the future aye? 2020? seems they slightly miscalculated
4:29 Little did Jon know, the Netherlands would go on to conquer Russia in Medieval Two
Play as ISIS in the full game please 😂
Tom Meakin Haha yea why not 😂😇
Kill everything playthrough?
atleast you get paid by the West secretly ov vey...
You forgot something. You can buy a non Islamic slave wife for a pack of cigarettes.
Not really. It's more Saudi Arabia.
Really enjoyed this, looking forward to seeing more. Bring on R:TW tonight!
2021 here. This game is totally innacurate to the events of 2020.
And thank fuck it wasn't as it would be really strange if it did.
the timing of that end of episode was incredible
those days when your favorite youtuber doesnt know what kaliningrad is... jon your mother and i are very disapointed with you
HA Rathburn
Jon’s mother is a hamster, and his father smells of elder berries
4:25 The Netherlands will not forget this Jon...
"The EU doesn't exist anymore."
God i hope so.
dude. my country kind of depends on EU for safety? shut up and let us live damn it.
***** Estonia, tiny ass post-soviet country right next to Russia who regained independence in 1991. You know, same Russia who is ruled by a man who said that the fall of the USSR was a mistake, and is likely planning on taking us back again. We're kind of depending on the EU to stand by us in case that happens thank you.
Yeah that's Nato, not the EU, EU couldn't feasibly defend against Russia, but Nato can.
If I remember correctly, Kaliningrad used to be Koeningsburg - one of the most culturally significant areas of Prussia, and Germany as a whole - aside from access to the Baltic Sea - when the Soviets took it at the end of WW2, they used it as an opportunity to essentially “deculturise” it. Essentially like France taking London and removing all traces of British culture (could be wrong about this, but that’s how I’ve understood it)
I'd love time see more of this
Jon needs a quarter million subs, cmon people. This man does brilliant stuff.
Woah! A Hearts of Iron 4 clone... BUT! it's in the present and there are some Europa Universalis mechanics! Truly revolutionary game...
This video went exactly as I expected.
Jon, please make a video on the full version :) I want to see more as well as inform my decision to purchase the game!
Kaliningrad is about the same size as depicted which is a lot bigger than many countries around the world, Jon, plus it has about 400,000 people.