A look inside the torque multiplier and why it failed

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  • Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
  • After having a good experience with the "Cheater wrench" brand on the trailer that I just bought and doing a video on that, I went to the other side to do the brakes over there and ended up breaking the tool. I bought another tool, a different brand, I finished taking off the nuts that were stuck and finished the brake job. I went inside the two tools and compared the quality of the parts and discovered why the first tool broke and why the 2nd tool was able to finish the job.
    link to the Klutch brand at Northern Tool www.northernto...

Комментарии • 93

  • @Greenmachine305
    @Greenmachine305 4 года назад +5

    Difficult to believe how poor the quality is. Shame on the manufacturer.
    Excellent video.

  • @Maine307
    @Maine307 3 года назад +1

    i dont know know who his grandkids are.. but they got one hell of a grand dad! teaching life skills and learning about true quality of work!! great video! lesson learned to all!! cheers!

  • @SJWolf-yf8sy
    @SJWolf-yf8sy 2 года назад +1

    Thank You For Taking The Time To Tare It Apart And Show Us The Cheapness Of This Product. As Always Great Video!!

  • @JohnVH-diy
    @JohnVH-diy 4 года назад +7

    Great vid as always. I bought one a few years ago just for roadside emergencies but have used it quite often in my shop. The first time using it I felt grinding. When I took it apart there was no grease. I cleaned it well and packed it with good grease and it has worked well. Mine had sloppy gears too. Definitely not made in the USA.

    • @57bagre
      @57bagre  4 года назад +16

      Not made here but the specs are from here and it's made to order. It's not the Chinese factory's fault, it's the U.S. buyer's fault for asking for that kind of quality to sell cheap and fast. I did some research on that and found that China has some of the finest quality products in the world but not readily available in the States. The "Chinese junk" is mostly made to order from companies here.

    • @dblood8529
      @dblood8529 2 года назад +5

      @@57bagre this the most underrated comment I’ve ever read on the internet. We’re so quick to call it “Chinese Junk” myself included. Before reading and understand this comment I thought China just pushed junk and sent it to the USA but I didn’t realize that American companies sends specs and order them that way. Wow. Thanks for the insight.

  • @dalebabbitt6185
    @dalebabbitt6185 4 года назад +4

    I'm so glad you made this video. I was about to buy the Cheater Wrench based upon your video several days ago using the Cheater Wrench. It looks like they are trying to compensate for the chineseium raw casting by packing it with heavy grease instead of properly machining the gearing. I understand this is what makes the price low. I'm glad I procrastinated. I'm thinking I'll try the one offered by Northern Tool. Thank again Gordon!!!

    • @57bagre
      @57bagre  4 года назад +1

      I'm glad you didn't get that one too. I think the Klutch is the better choice.

    • @dalebabbitt6185
      @dalebabbitt6185 4 года назад +2

      @@57bagre Happy Thanksgiving Gordon

    • @57bagre
      @57bagre  4 года назад +1

      Thank you Dale. Happy thanksgiving to you as well.

  • @wymershandymanservice9965
    @wymershandymanservice9965 4 года назад +4

    Definitely a real case for buy once cry once. Great content showing you get what you pay for 👍. OTC used to sell a decent torque multiplier. . Used to work on a lot of Mack camel back springs.at 1800# of torque. Only way to get trunnion bushing to last was at the proper torque.

    • @57bagre
      @57bagre  4 года назад +1

      I can't find a good one on Google, I'm still looking.

    • @cameronduff884
      @cameronduff884 2 года назад

      @@57bagre I found a Alkitronic mounz eliminator that looks like it might be what they copied,but it has a ratchet built in that makes it confusing for wheels. (I broke the shear pin trying to back it off) otherwise OK.

  • @FuriousGriffin
    @FuriousGriffin 2 года назад +2

    Great video, I work on hydraulic motors and drives for excavators and bulldozers. They are the same idea as the drives I work on with the center gear being the "sun gear" then the "Planetaries" and finally running around the "Ring gear". Of course the ones I work on are far better machined and WAY bigger. :P I enjoyed watching, thank you.

    • @57bagre
      @57bagre  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for commenting Bill. I just take my drive motors to Bobcat and let them do them, I do the cylinders at home though and I have done the hydro motor on my stump grinder at home.

  • @envisionCamusa
    @envisionCamusa 4 года назад +5

    Good video as always Gordon.
    I bought torque multipliers years ago and have used them frequently and haven't had any problems. I think they are all cheap imports anyways so it's probably a luck of the draw on getting a decent one.

    • @57bagre
      @57bagre  4 года назад +2

      Well now you know what's in it and the kind of quality you get.

  • @joshyandt8443
    @joshyandt8443 4 года назад +1

    Thank you Mr. Robertson.

    • @57bagre
      @57bagre  4 года назад

      Thank you for watching Josh.

  • @ckeckthis
    @ckeckthis 7 месяцев назад

    Thank you, from Germany, I appreciate it

    • @57bagre
      @57bagre  7 месяцев назад

      Thank you for watching

  • @DebSidera
    @DebSidera Год назад

    I got the black one. I can feel it the whole case/leg twisting while I’m torquing on the input shaft

  • @chrischiampo7647
    @chrischiampo7647 4 года назад +2

    Concept Is Great But Execution Was Lacking 🥺🤕😳 Thanks For The Teardown And Review I Also Love Failure Analysis Diagnostics 😀👍🏼👨🏼‍🔧🧰

    • @57bagre
      @57bagre  4 года назад +1

      I just received the 78:1 and will be having a look inside to see if I like the way it's made. I need to have one in my truck and one in the shop. I'll decide which one will go in the truck after I compare them.

    • @ismailyakubu8474
      @ismailyakubu8474 4 года назад

      Chris Chiampo o

  • @northmanlogging2769
    @northmanlogging2769 4 года назад +1

    goes to show, sometimes more expensive isn't better, been thinking on picking one of these up for awhile, but at $200 I was leary, the Northern tool version is under $100 after shipping... seems like a slam dunk, Proto makes a couple different types, but they want a lot for em

  • @gdp2291
    @gdp2291 3 года назад +1

    Excellent job buddy.. nicely explained.thank you

  • @jtqthetieman
    @jtqthetieman 3 года назад +1

    Why not reload the grease while you have it apart, especially since you removed some grease? Gotta lube.

  • @DIYSEMI
    @DIYSEMI 4 года назад +1

    I bought a cheap one a year ago for $80. Used it once so far. I guess if I get a couple uses out of it its a cheap lesson learned. Better than some of expensive lessons I've learned...lol.

    • @57bagre
      @57bagre  4 года назад

      I hope you don't have anything as tight as my trailer was or yours might break too.

  • @garyhoward3123
    @garyhoward3123 Год назад

    Made to sell, not to use. Klutch is 80 dollars. You can't get much quality or machining for that. Klutch does have a 1 yr warranty. Thanks for the review.

  • @Tosh.O
    @Tosh.O 3 года назад

    ive owned a snap on torque multiplier for 3+ years now and it has never failed on me one time. Buy cheap stuff it breaks, buy quality stuff it lasts for life.

  • @lolacazam
    @lolacazam 4 года назад

    NUT BUDDY makes a good one. I’ve got one in my toolbox in case a 1”impact won’t take off a lug nut off.

  • @petemoss9693
    @petemoss9693 4 года назад +4

    Hi Gordon - Thank's for sharing this video with all of - as you know everything now a days is made in China
    sad to say - you get what you pay for right . " Happy Thanksgiving "

    • @57bagre
      @57bagre  4 года назад

      Thank you Pete. Happy Thanksgiving to you as well.

    • @macspud28
      @macspud28 4 года назад +1

      Or not, the $70 one was better quality than the $250 one.

    • @simonlloyd7557
      @simonlloyd7557 3 года назад

      We (our politicians) in the West have made a huge mistake but destroying our manufacturing base and getting the Chinese to make everything. Now we are their slaves and they are on the way to becoming THE most powerful nation of Earth...Then they give us Covid 19 which is ruining the global economy and costing millions of lives..and who supplies the PPE??
      Im making it my personal mission to not knowingly buy anything from China.

  • @ambiorispuntier945
    @ambiorispuntier945 8 месяцев назад

    Great vid. Thanks!!!

    • @57bagre
      @57bagre  8 месяцев назад

      Glad you liked it!

  • @fishyhobby3697
    @fishyhobby3697 4 года назад +1

    Great information and video.. seems like they're just light duty junk..

  • @robotech1990
    @robotech1990 4 года назад +2

    Mr. Robertson DIY i just love your vid´s. Thank´s for the teardown. Just wondering..Why can´t america make these tools with good quality and affordable price??I would be happy to spend my money in good tools. I still have a german made HEYCO set of wrenches my dad inherit me...i love them . Have another set of DOWIDAT...never failed. Why americans buy trash from China?? " Merry Christmas"

  • @geneduclos4003
    @geneduclos4003 4 года назад +1

    Another great china product... thanks for sharing.

  • @markkiser9329
    @markkiser9329 Год назад

    file test to the metal will tell alot

  • @dchawk81
    @dchawk81 3 года назад +1

    I figured they were probably all made by the same company so I went with the cheapest on eBay @ $36. This way I can consider it disposable.
    It's mostly just to procrastinate buying a bigger compressor to run my 1" gun properly.

    • @cameronduff884
      @cameronduff884 3 года назад

      If you can afford it, torcup, you won't need so much air

    • @C.O.SBurpees
      @C.O.SBurpees 3 года назад

      I bought one of those on ebay been using the same one for years now it was like 40 bucks

  • @donald1056
    @donald1056 4 года назад

    The black one is not perfect but it's the better between the 2 of them by all account and it didn't break and it took off the lug nuts on your semi - that's the reason you bought it

    • @57bagre
      @57bagre  4 года назад

      That's right Don.

  • @georgedoorley5628
    @georgedoorley5628 2 года назад

    got one like your red one only in black ................worked ok till i put a crescent wrench on the input side one day ........heard a snap ...............3rd set of gears bust .......... the few sockets that came with it are all thats left now ..........!

  • @gavnonadoroge3092
    @gavnonadoroge3092 Год назад

    looks like a good example of chinee quality

  • @wisfull11
    @wisfull11 3 года назад

    try Wurth for one of these

  • @MrUbiquitousTech
    @MrUbiquitousTech 4 года назад +3

    Great postmortem Gordon. Did that orange one even have a bearing on the out put shaft? As sloppy as it flopped around it didn't look like it.
    It's apparent that what these companies did is spec their tolerances so wide that they could assemble with raw castings to keep the cost down. Machining all of those parts would have made it more precision and reliable, but really driven the cost up.
    Off topic, my jacket looks _exactly_ like yours. Many years ago our company bought us managers at different locations jackets with our names and company logo on them. A few years later myself and a couple of other managers were at a meeting with the company president (who originally bought us the jackets) and one guy from a southern operation was wearing his as was myself. My jacket was worn, torn, and greasy. His looked brand new. I saw that and thought to myself that it was kind of obvious who's actually doing the work....

    • @57bagre
      @57bagre  4 года назад +1

      The red one has no bushing on the output, I didn't check that far on the black one. I just received a 78:1 today, I'll be looking inside of it real soon. I need a good one for my truck and another one for the shop. They have no excuse for making them so poorly, anyone would gladly pay $200 or more if it were made with machined parts and a close tolerance. Not hard to do it right. A winch motor is done that way, maybe I should make my own from one of those.

  • @dangerdavefreestyle
    @dangerdavefreestyle 3 года назад

    maybe there is some policy against shipping grease

  • @kamleshchaudhari7545
    @kamleshchaudhari7545 5 месяцев назад

    Konsi website pe gear milega

  • @banzaii6285
    @banzaii6285 4 года назад

    Please post a link for whatever one you think is the "better" cheap torque multiplier : ) May just be a crap shoot whether it breaks or not. Thanks for the review.

    • @57bagre
      @57bagre  4 года назад +3

      www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200732635_200732635?cm_mmc=Bing-pla&Bing_PLA&Hand%20Tools%20%3E%20Wrenches&Klutch&msclkid=81dfc0d7a4f215fa0c789d024fa1f8d7

    • @banzaii6285
      @banzaii6285 4 года назад

      @@57bagre Thank you...

  • @wilcandou
    @wilcandou 2 года назад

    Looks like someone's been using a rattle gun on it. ...naughty, naughty!

    • @wilcandou
      @wilcandou 2 года назад

      Impact gun damage

    • @57bagre
      @57bagre  2 года назад

      never happened, just cheap Chinese junk.

  • @markrob9752
    @markrob9752 4 года назад

    Hey Gordon do you have a video of removal of Top Plate on Eaton Transmission. Need to reach that piston inside mines leaking causing air to seak thru

    • @57bagre
      @57bagre  4 года назад +1

      No Mark, I don't. I would be talking to the man at the transmission shop if I had to do that.

  • @ashkanmahouti858
    @ashkanmahouti858 3 года назад

    Why’s the inside painted?😅

  • @geneduclos4003
    @geneduclos4003 4 года назад +1

    do you know of a good torque multiplier that doesn't cost 100's of dollars? i'm still looking.

    • @57bagre
      @57bagre  4 года назад +1

      Northerntool.com less than $90.

  • @Imwright720
    @Imwright720 3 года назад

    The original cost close to 300 bucks. Quality isn’t cheap

  • @bpetnoi1472
    @bpetnoi1472 3 года назад

    Harbor Freight??????

  • @AlenaziCompany
    @AlenaziCompany 3 года назад

    Thanks for showing us the negative of this tool, this is poor machining . I wish if good machine company in USA take over manufacturing this with good metal ....

  • @carpenterfamily6198
    @carpenterfamily6198 4 года назад

    Damn - Gordon please let us know if Chester Wrench honors the warranty.
    Of course that doesn’t help when you’re broke down in the middle of no where.

    • @57bagre
      @57bagre  4 года назад

      I haven't had time to send it back yet but I plan to do that soon.

  • @kumarpankaj7992
    @kumarpankaj7992 3 года назад

    Praec

  • @cactusjack1806
    @cactusjack1806 4 года назад

    Looks like its made of chinesium.

    • @57bagre
      @57bagre  4 года назад

      I don't know what that is. I guess it's not that good.

    • @JonDingle
      @JonDingle 4 года назад

      @@57bagre Chinesium is a term used by AvE to describe cheap Chinese quality materials. His channel is really good. Just search AvE, sit back, learn and enjoy!

  • @garagekeys
    @garagekeys 3 дня назад

    When you are a Cheapo you buy cheapo tools then complain.

  • @unkwm128
    @unkwm128 3 года назад

    probably made by the same prisoner

  • @martinmarin841
    @martinmarin841 4 года назад

    U get what u pay 30.00 dollar

  • @Boot_185
    @Boot_185 4 года назад

    If you want a machined one you know how much they would cost? These companies now cast everything to get quantity over quality

    • @57bagre
      @57bagre  4 года назад +1

      A winch motor is machined and doesn't cost much more than these. It's a scam because they know you won't use it more than a couple times if at all.

  • @kyrifleman6176
    @kyrifleman6176 4 года назад

    most likely made from the rejected castings bought in bulk, why there are so few honest, quality, legitimate manufactures in business these days. Normally the marketplace would weed out low quality junk over time, that competition would lower consumer price as well and over time only affordable stuff that actually worked would persist. No one should get away with ripping off consumers like they do. When buying the higher priced tool doesn't even get you any better quality then there is a serious problem.

  • @martinmarin841
    @martinmarin841 4 года назад

    Very sloppy

  • @Boot_185
    @Boot_185 4 года назад

    "made in china"?

  • @thelonerizla1
    @thelonerizla1 Год назад

    You have to understand that these slopey multipliers will develop stupid torque but if the input torque is any more than your 4yr old daughters best arm it will strip . Snap-on, on the other hand, are out there on fkin Mars with their price . Where have the Germans gone and the Brits ffs?

  • @walterwhitaker1395
    @walterwhitaker1395 3 года назад

    WHY do people buy tools from Horror Fright and then bitch about the poor quality! Street Hooker or Bunny Ranch? you pay your money and you take your chances! LOL!

  • @1dedoe
    @1dedoe 3 года назад

    There is just no excuse for that coat bud....