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"Spawn point diff" I'm just waiting for it 💀
Fr though 😂
Spawn point diff doesn't matter when people throw by being afk at start of game or after every death. If you respawn and don't move out of the spawn within 10sec it should be classed the same as leaving the game. Insta mark against your account.
@@SuperLifestreami disagree
@@SuperLifestreamtyping (im terms of switches or strats) or switching yourself and not knowing immediately what to play
@@EssUchiha you have about 8 seconds while dead to think "hmmm should i swap hero" (which you should already know what their team comp is). If it takes to about 18sec to think, swap, and walk out the door which is a couple of metres in front of you. then you need another game to play. i suggest solitaire
no wonder there’s a side that wins way more than the other in my games that’s crazy
MmmmmmmmmmHM!
Yep, that extra one step is totally the reason.
@@Sindokuin a lot of cases it actually can be the defining feature of whether or not someone can touch for overtime!
@@magi1134or even could be the deciding factor in whether your support gets in range to heal you to survive during an important moment.
You guys are gasligbting yourselves to be honest. In MOST games it won't make a difference. Ofncourse if you average all games out in all of overwatch yes. But the likelihood of this effecting an individual game is close to 0
Blizzard can't even balance the spawn points 💀
Yeah their matchmaking is trash, slowly starting to just walk away from this trash game
@@jesseeliasson6359 I deinstalled it and never felt happier. Four months clean now 😂
@@jesseeliasson6359you took way too long dawg, overwatch devs been trash since before the second one was out
@@jesseeliasson6359I’m surprised more people haven’t quit already
In Counterstrike people take note of what spawn they have at the start of the round to optimize where they can reach before contact with the enemy team. Obviously the game is labbed much harder than is possible or relevant to Overwatch; but unbalanced spawns isn't necessarily bad game design imo.
"subconsciously had a favorite spot" SAME!!!! I always felt "better" playing one side than another.
Now you know how league players feel on blue vs. red sides.
Overwatch players are what happens when you force Magic the gathering players to skip their annual showers for a few years and drink nothing but nitric acid in Mountain Dew cans
Ah I just like the gameplay and characters. Not everyone is a hardcore gamer. Casual players still exist and we are the majority
Bro built like an overwatch player
😂
The difference isn’t too severe, but when your team is getting Molly whopped constantly that half a second makes an impact
the sx bots beat me here 😢
Careful with how you word that-
Yeah there is WAAYYYY more then 6
Blizzard needs to stop ignoring the real issue and stop walking around the real issue in the game
Why did you just say the same thing twice? I don't disagree with you, it's just that was a weird way to say it.
@Gunplus574 I just assumed it was a joke about how blizzard aint like to do shit
@@Gunplus574 if you know you know what it means
@@tyugaming8193i see what you did there
Huh. You know... I've also noticed I had favorites and often felt some seemed faster but never really thought much about it.
yes ‘cause, subconsciously, you kinda assume there’s no way Blizzard wouldn’t make these 100% equal. A third of a second is too much
Idk, I’m a Lucio main primarily, it feels the same going Mach 2 back to the spawn room
I fucking KNEW IT. I always felt the “run” to get to point was further on some spawns than others
caring about this is a sign you need to go outside
Yeah we do
The cut is looking clean flats
Lol
Of all my years play OW, ive never sat and thought about “Spawn Point Diff” lol
There's 6 spawn points in those last images that Flats mentions. 6v6 confirmed 💀
Or they were so lazy they've left the 6 spawns in.
@trutwhut6550 whoosh
@trutwhut6550 this is the most likely answer.
It's crazy how pve never happened. They just took it away from us, and scammed us.
Good to know that our numbers roughly don't matter all over again, all those games like Flats said where you "i know i coulda made it in a half second" showing us this, for a fact, would have made games way different. that's mindboggling.
Why are the comments so freaky?! 😭
Their bots
@@banancorn9894They're
The spawn area after you lose the objective on Numbani is the one I hate the most. I'll be playing Mercy. We lose point and then everybody is just staggering going out one by one and I haven't even gotten to them yet.
"skill issue just don't die"
“According to our calculations”
I mean.. if the rest of the map is symetrical it would genuinely affect which peeks and has vision first
As a person trying to become a game dev. This pisses me off. I spend extra time on my sprites trying to make sure the hitbox is as accurate as possible meanwhile AAA Devs are doing this.
You can feel it in game too. Coming out of one spawn vs the other I know I’m either going to swing the corner first or get swung first. It’s weird but even though it’s barely any distance it does change how you engage initially. It’s so strange that it’s like this. Like when both teams have lucio and rush point. One team makes it there slightly quicker and takes more space.
When the pro wannabe loses for the 2835th time in a row
This deserves all the love and recognition.
Bro lost and decided to investigate
These comments are actually something else. 😅
We got spawn point lore before gta 6
I KNEW IT IT ALWAYS FELT SO ODD IN SUM GAMES...
Have you ever spawned on a map and instantly thought you were going to lose cause it's not the spawn point you prefer? If so, then you have a common ally with me
I love these kind of videos because I feel like this can lead to how much I lose games
It’s more lack of attention to detail by the overwatch dance. They literally have to put in these measurements, but somehow still fuck it out.
For me on COD it’s the heady spots from side to side that make me scratch my head sometimes
I find it funny that z-moves in X&Y and dyna/gigantamax in Sun&Moon fit better than their current iterations
I love someone explaining someone explaining something
_breathe_
*TEAM*
_breathe_
*FORTRESS*
_breathe_
*TWOOOOOOOOOOO!*
When you cant say "im lagging" anymore
At this point we all really need to touch grass.
"Mirror watch"
😂
That explains everything, it wasn't a skill issue after all 🤷🏻♂️
I don't wanna spawn anymore 💀
I noticed because I spawned really far back one time and I was like wtf
"you only won because i got a bad spawn point" copium boutta be invented
Now everyone can use this as an excuse as to why they lost 💀 I have noticed on certain maps we never get to the same point at the same time but it’s never really been make or break.
A reminder: That half second means not only are you *always" in position first, they suffer that time loss on *every single death*
2nd defense on Hollywood definitely feels that way
only overwatch players would complain about fraction of a second advantageous spawn points
he looks exactly like what I think of when I imagine an OW player in 2024
Bros like 400 pounds Jesus
I totally have favorite sides on different maps.
This may be why.
In most games I wouldn’t care.
But after playing OW for 8 years, I know how much EVERY second matters
Gotta love getting the best mirage mid spawn with an awp when someone spawned by palace and tries to peek mid
One of these was 420ms father. In some games thats the TTK
The dev team should just measure every maps spawns points and add speed boosts to the slower maps spawn room for the first few seconds of the round in the spawn room to make up for lost time lol
i knew i wasn't crazy
It would have been near to see you pick a side before knowing wich was faster
He was in fact right all along
With the mobility as well, 0.3 seconds could literally make or break a hold
*My entire life"
Brother, the game came out in 2016
The people who actually have the time to look into this stuff need to get a life lol 😭
It’s a competitive shooter that people enjoy. If you can’t accept that, maybe you’re the one who needs to “get a life lol.”
@@WyattTheWise I love the game I just think these kind of statistics are unnecessary ecessary, unless you’re a grand master basement dweller. Just enjoy the game.
@@crazyfrog5552 pro play exists- as you said the ‘basement dwellers’ need that 0.3 seconds. Another thing is the people or person that looked into this is a creator that looks at game impacting bugs as his content so his work is doing this.
Lets be real here, it is a difference maker for sure, but odds are it will rarely ever be what actually decides a game or not. Thats still like 95% just dont screw up teamfights.
But... That 5% definitely shouldnt be ignored on maps that are mirrored, and Im baffled that something this simple has managed to get fucked up... Or at least thats what I would say but its ow2, so this is just another day in the park.
Yo editor. Do your job and put the link to the video.
A third of a second doesn't seem like much, but that will save the average tank player well over a minute per game. Crazy to think about
Good game sense
dis probably how they choose uphill battle or expected games😂 blizzard would do some dumb shit like that
game is dead anyway who cares
Yap yap yap
Fun fact! People can enjoy games after they've fallen from their prime!
As a tf2 player it aint that bad but the lean to being the csgo formula just doesn't help it
Fun fact it's reached its highest monthly players
New Excuse for losing unlocked
Well when we are all piled at the door waiting to run out and spam whatever mobility we have to get to point, it doesn’t really matter
Not initial game spawn obviously 🙄 talking about how if you need to touch in overtime every millisecond counts
No one gonna talk about flashpoint spawns? Spawning u in the back of a massive spawn when u have to walk 200m to the point anyway
Yall reaching and coping hard. You aint that good that .36 of a second would make a difference
I know some maps just suck based on which spot
Yep that’s the average overwatch player
Is this really enough of a difference to matter???
Yes.
only on very VERY specific over time situations, but how often are you half a second away from clutching
The maps are played millions of times. Any difference will show up statistically because of that and then they use win/loss rates to buff or nerf characters without spending the minimal effort to fix the map spawn points.
Only when it's over time and you're on the way to help your team but they all die before you get there and you could have saved it, if only you made it there half a second sooner
100% it can. The amount of times I thought I touched point in time and didn't and we lost. I definitely will blame the spawns for that
I dont play OW but in valorant tdm the maps are mirrored and I still prefer a side on each map. Ithe only difference is I don't have a .2 sec advantage to justify it, I just feel it
Average over watch player build
Crazy convenient that you never said anything but you allegedly knew🤨
callaseo (cant spell it) one side hits the bot first than the other and its almost a second longer.
Are the turns and curves calculated into that? Subway has a ton of turns at the start.
As a cs player who played ow for a little bit a while back in 2019 like after 3 weeks of playing regularly I knew the spawn points were off just cuz of having that internal clock for timings in cs
He is the overwatch player
While 0.1-0.3 seconds may not seem like much of a difference that adds up extremely quick over the course of the game
And ofcourse it's a big enough difference on who gets to push OT and who doesn't. Spawn diff fr fr.
Blizzard see this here guys have a skin we fixed it. But really we only get the skin.
This the equivalent of rust players saying this skin is pay to win because they see 5 more pixels with the iron sights
Overwatch players: huh ya know I’ve always liked different spawns better
Warthunder players:💀💀
Yall saying its cope dont realize in proplay .1 of a second literally changes everything, and were talking .3 here. When youre at the level where muscle memory can automatically lock in on ppl even the slightest offset in timing can leave the gunfight very imbalanced takes 2 seconds to think about b4 calling it cope🤷♀️🤷♀️🙄
When majority of your team doesn’t know how to play none of this shit matters
AVERAGE VAL PLAYER
F#ckin knew it
This seems like such a crazy dev oversight and failure for 0 reason and most players wont even feel or ever be affected by the difference.
For all you saying it wouldnt make that much of a difference you arnt properly looking at it, you times it by 5 then times it by the amount of times your teams respawns then times it by 2 for the advnatage of the enemy team it starts to add up fast.
simple , just dont die
Its 1/10 of a second, you nerds.
Why is queen street the map I see the most tracers?
Means literally nothing for casual games. Competitive games this could be the difference between winning a tournament or not and that’s a big deal
Pretending to know the distance of spawn points before watching the video then calling it the placebo effect...?
Yup, that's Flats. lol
Okay now someone tell me why when I demo an opponent in Rocket League, they always spawn in exactly the right spot to immediately stop our attack, like 95% of the time, but whenever I get demo'd I spawn on the wrong side.
He def looks lika a Overwatch 2 player
The maps are symmetrical yet they don’t spawn symmetrically? That’s some crappy design