Hi Seekers, thanks for watching! For more on Mars, check out this Focal Point on NASA’s 3D-Printed Habitat Challenge, a 4-year long competition centered around engineering habitats for deep space exploration, in this case Mars: ruclips.net/video/XWJ-sE08ASg/видео.html
@rp games Not the way were going. I'd agree, but if we made changes, it wouldnt take us more than 100 for sure. That would take cooperation on a level not seen on this planet before.
You'd need a ridiculous amount of plants to make a carbon atmosphere breathable and not sure if you noticed but we kind of have a problem maintaining them here even without deliberate clearings. I'm humourless I know.
True! Although the idea of science fiction is to show off technologies of the future, so as we continuously accelerate our progress we're going to end up passing sci-fi movies. If you look back at the earliest sci-fi films there'll be technology there we take for granted now.
Dr. Gearswell @ Seeker man hasn’t even been to the Moon,and you want us to believe they built a machine that produces oxygen ? LoL do you think that we are all morons ? ?
@@nadanada5698 i dont get what you mean at all. If you know the problem (no oxygen) along with knowing the atmosphere of the planet your going to, then why could we not use science to "filter" the outside of the atmosphere to an enclosed system that could properly build regulate and distribute the new "atmosphere" inside of the current atmosphere. Essentially creating a bubble. Its science. Its not easy, obviously, but we have the technology and resources to do this exact thing. Even if it isnt perfect thats why we have the engineers to make it possible.
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Yoo what if the lorax was based on Mars? Plastic is relatively cheap to produce, and each city was once colonies, the space between them is the once barren mars soil
@@noblenormie1179 I would like to add, producing some oxygen from carbon dioxide is a far from terra forming. But it is a a good first step towards being able to have a colony on mars. Granted that colony would have to exist in domes of some kind but sounds like they MIGHT have a way of producing a large amount of oxygen to fill domes to be constructed in the future. If seeds could be germinated in domes at that point I wonder how much more oxygen could be produced.
They actually did it. It took the small version they sent one hour to make 10 minutes of oxygen for one person. When they send large versions, they will be able to make oxygen indefinitely for anyone living there.
Honestly I don't think the gold will be nessicary in the scaled up version. They only used gold in the rover version of Moxie because its packed tightly in a rover next to a bunch of sensative equipment.
@@daylightknight6373 if you want it for a fraction of the price and better design it wouldn't be that hard, instead of using gold to help with bringing heat away, use graphene, and you could set up the MOXIE machine to create graphene or even graphite using more cathode/anode arrays of different style to build layers of graphene rather than having that carbon go and form CO and CO2 inside the machine
@@chrispersinger5422 Maybe they were able to be more precise by using gold, or maybe it's more reliable, and reliability matters. Also, and this seems to be important, they heat this thing up to 800C and graphene combusts at 350C.
@@mmo4754 It can't combust with such low concentrations of O2 and I don't think graphene's combustion point is lower than gold's melting point as gold's melting point is fairly low. I would have to look it up I guess.
@@mmo4754 I looked it up and you are right about the temperatures, however, when heat os applied to graphene by current, only the electrons get excited, rather than the atom getting more thermal energy. So I am pretty sure graphene would be a suitable replacement as long as they could get it into the shape they want
“If you had the power of geoengineering to terraform Mars into Earth, then you have the power of geoengineering to turn Earth back into Earth.” - Neil deGrasse Tyson
Great quote. The problem is energy. Does it make sense to burn carbon fuels to make energy, and then use all of that energy to remove the CO2 we just created to "turn Earth back into Earth"?
SciFi writer Larry Niven has suggested we're going to screw up this planet so bad it's barely livable. THEN, we'll fix it. The upside? We'll know how to terraform.
@@nekusakuraba4000 Nuclear fission has problems with waste too, and safety. I'm hoping nuclear fusion will save us. If we had spent just a small fraction of our military budgets over the last 50 years on fusion research instead, we would have free limitless energy by now.
LOL - missed opportunity. And in reality it was along the lines of “if want to build hardware that will go to space, you need to know how to build things. And then when you build the things they need to work and things will be good”
Aliens planning a trip to another planet: "Hey, let's go to Earth! Only problem, the atmosphere has a lot of oxygen!" "Holy Fsck! That's a problem, oxygen is a corrosive poison. We'd never survive there!" "That's OK, we have a machine to generate a lot of fresh methane. Problem solved."
Yeah well I think they'll kill the dog in the process of trying to keep it alive. A by product of that reaction is carbon monoxide, that shit will suffocate you faster than carbon dioxide... wel that's probably not true but it's definitely more dangerous than carbon dioxide.
I feel like making the oxygen isn't the challenge, maintenance of such equipment will be. Plus oxygen is highly flammable, so if a person were to mess around with fire, the entire base that people will make on Mars will explode
Oxygen itself isn't flammable because it is the oxidiser. It needs something else that *is* flammable to burn. Oxygen will make a fire worse, but it cannot burn by itself
well they wouldn't live in pure oxygen atmosphere because its also unhealthy to use pure oxygen all the time,im not sure why but its hard on the body to use it all the time
If you bring modern tech back even a few decades, the faces will be of utter amazement. Why go all the way to 1275? And you’d probably be killed as a witch anyways.
I heard estimates that the us could get down to 200 B a year on millitary if we backed out of NATO or if other countries spent more on millitary expenses, i am not sure how credible or accurate that was but seems realistic
@@Shrouded_reaper Going to Mars seems utterly stupid to me it will cost us Trillions. We have enough debt already. It seems to bring out the boy scout in so many men. We cant live there in one third G, nor can babies bones develop. Radiation forces underground living. We can do that here much cheaper.
If countries would use all of our military budget into space budget exploration. Damn, i just couldn't imagine how far we are in terms or technology if that came to happen.
i think getting the robots like asimo tuned up primed and finalized geared up with VR. controls out to mars would be the goal.. just gotta make a beefier satalite connection like leaving a string of communication satellites along the way to reduce the ping... perhaps
Dude! I’ve been thinking about that for awhile now. Weed potency depends on the how you grow it and also depends on what kind of soil is use. Imagine growing weed on mars. Must be some really good shit.
@@meghanachauhan9380 It was a joke, but a kernel of truth is that it may seem to Me that the Nitrogen Gas is almost as important as oxygen, since we cannot breath 90% CO2 and 10% Oxygen, we still need the 85% N2. and since it is 85% (80%? whatevs) it means we will need to harvest 8 times as much of it from the Martian atmosphere, as we do O2. But unlike the Earth, N2 is only available in trace amounts (less than 1% of the very faint Martian atmosphere). This is obviously a problem with many straight forward solutions, and I'm sure that racks of O2 bottles filled by robot, will seem like Mothers Milk to Astronauts , yuou dont want to breath alot of stuff, and I dont think helium is easy to get there either. :)!
This reminds me of the patrick meme that would go like this: “Why don’t we just take the polar ice caps and trees, and move them to Mars?” Obviously speaking this is a joke that I don’t see being implemented at all but still
Such a refreshing change to have a non - affectatious human voice actually embodied and explaining in detail but in an understandable , and intonated delivery .
You could build a huge greenhouse like structure with glass that filters the UV light and thwn you'd be able to farm inside it once they make a small HQ after that just keep expanding it as much as you need. I can imagine the first factories in Mars producing machines for building and expanding. My coolest idea would be a nuclear like chain reaction that splits C and O²
Yea clever but the atmosphere is also really thin and if we used this for colonies there then we wouldn’t have enough for a lot of people. But if instead we harvested the frozen water and made it into hydrogen and oxygen then we would be able to sustain more people.
@@matthewgeiger7705 The Martian soil is known for not suitable for earth plants to grow. So before we can terraform the planet enough to grow plants in large scale, we'll need a way to recycle the oxygen in pressurized colonies. This golden box is a brilliant start.
Tapis T I’m not saying it isn’t but I’m pretty sure it’s been proven with human feces Martian soil can be used to plant earth plants. Even if we recycled the carbon dioxide that the colony would breath out if there are a lot of people the boxes couldn’t keep up with such a thin atmosphere to steal carbon dioxide from or even from the humans for that matter. Both converting water into oxygen and co2 into oxygen should be used to sustain a colony.
@@matthewgeiger7705 "Martian soil is toxic, due to relatively high concentrations of perchlorate compounds containing chlorine." quoted from Wikipedia. And yes, electrolyzing water should be used to sustain the air supply. But for a quite long period Martian colonies will remain in form of pressurized domes.
Tapis T yeah my facts were from the movie Martian oops. We need more technology to be able to terraform an entire planet but creating a colony in pressurized domes underground is a good start.
I really hope that the little Gold box works to fab. a really greatly needed piece of hardware for mars missions. I am sure that Elon will love you for this little gold box, it will be a very vital equipment to the Mars base.
David Beppler It’s a start . If it manages to create oxygen as theoretically proposed . It will be applied in further larger applications that could provide enough oxygen for humans .
@@skyrask1948 I'm afraid you may be mistaken, Sebastier produces water and methane from hydrogen and CO2, hydrogen would be harder to work with than water. Maybe a water-gas shift could work. The low pressure and temperature make it inconvinient if we are to do it like it is done on Earth, the reaction would work, but the process would need a redesign to be viable.
The left over CO would be fantastic for turning all the iron rich Martian dust into pure iron for building materials. We will need CO to do this anyway because we have to mine our own materials on Mars. It's far too expensive to ship it from Earth.
@@TheMrCarnification Yes i totally forgot you need to electrolize water first into hydrogen and oxygen. That sabatier process it is used to create fuel and not oxygen since that one comes from water. My bad.
Not an expert, but perhaps algae would work? They produce oxygen from CO2. They’re extremely fast growing (can double their size daily in ideal conditions; or so i’ve heard), and nearly all (or just all, not sure though) types of oils you can get from crude oil, can be extracted from algae aswell, depending on which type you grow and the way you process it. There’s also potential for using the leftover dry mass after oil extraction as feed for livestock (so maybe it’s not too far fetched that it could with some processing feed humans; pure speculation though) or you could use it in a bioreactor to turn it into fuel aswell. Algae can also grow in wastewater(might even grow better in it, not sure though) which means nutrients lost due to the astronauts excreting it on the toilet, could be recuperated? Have also heard that algae contain omega-3 which is something we normally get from fish and is essential for a healthy brain. So you could produce that locally with algae. Also on a completely different note; i’ve heard of something called ‘syngas’ and ‘chemical looping’, if i remember correctly syngas can be used to make all sorts of long chained carbon molecules which would be handy for plastic production and the likes. And chemical looping is a process which should make syngas production easier. Again i’m no expert on these topics so if anyone wants to correct any mistakes i may have made or wants to add something to what i said, feel free to do so.
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Basically, you're saying they hold back on the tech they show us so by the time they show us millennials they've already made better tech. Hence the out of date
@@deano43 I like your idea it may work. Though one concern, oxygen levels have been constant on earth for a long long time and should remain that way. With this conversion we might alter this level and make the planet hotter or unstable, which also might not be the case as this biological world knows how to keep balance.
We are overpopulated on Earth and it would benefit everything if we started to look at other objects as potential homes. And we are very close to mastering life
@@StrainHunterRyuu It would be a strategic play to colonize another object. When we do, we will have less of a need to mine for certain elements on earth. This will increase Earth's "life". We are also working on improving our capability to edit DNA. We are the rulers of Earth and we will be the rulers of life pretty soon
Mankind cannot destroy the world unless there is a massive nuclear war, our current world is changing all the time, he is not always for you The Earth has extinguished hundreds of millions of species over hundreds of millions of years by its own changes to the world, and humans are nothing more than ants compared to the Earth. To set foot on other planets and leave a way out for our future, otherwise we'll just be wiped out by asteroids as easily as the dinosaurs of the past, and humanity... It's impossible to stay in the cradle forever, the universe is so big that it can be home to humans anywhere you can if you can afford it, and the universe doesn't abide by that. ridiculous moral code of ethics, every life has a natural law that suits them, and every civilization has their own that A set of civilized laws, and anyone who thinks their laws are the truth is naive and never grows up, such people are arrogant Arrogantly, you can enjoy your life now, not because we abide by the rules of survival of other animals, but simply by our own. of, but if you want to get people to listen to you, then you're 100% using a higher level of force than other beings to do so, such as on the plant Control, just like vegans force plants to provide them with energy.
Somehow I find it funny how carefully they put the golden box ito the rover... A box that will be sent in space with rocket and land on another planet. Surely it won't break if they put it down a bit roughly.
They send a Mars Rover equiped with the Golden Oxygen maker... Sounds like a sci fi movie plot. I am seriously interested in what this experiment is going to achieve
They should definitely improve this device before running it for longer periods of time, especially for human settlement. Carbon monoxide being produced in equal quantity would poison life.
Sklawz Einstein it is abundant but due to dust storms and distance from sun, our energy output from solar will be much lower there then here, we’ll likely be using solar as more of a supplementary source of power while nuclear is the main source.
4:30 the biggest issue here would be that there is no nitrogen in this atmosphere. This was an issue of the early space explorations. The Russian use 78% nitrogen 21% oxygen
Honestly I can see it being more space efficient than plants, but more energy efficient I doubt it. Either way a colony will need equipment like this in case there is plant die off, also plants don't produce oxygen during their sleep cycle and are dependant on light as well. I would assume colonies would try and be mostly dependant on photosynthesis and have these or similar tech for backup.
The problem with Mars is that unlike the earth, it has no longterm carbon dioxide cycle. On earth, there's a cycle in which carbon dioxide is washed from the atmosphere by rain, then embedded in sedimentary rocks, then over hundreds of millions of years those rocks are taken into the mantle by subduction zones, then melted and spit back out by volcanoes. This cycle has been essential to life on earth, and that cannot be overstated... The fact that earth is geologically active it one of those most important conditions for sustainable life. Since Mars is geologically dead, any attempts to geoengineer its atmosphere will have to be continuous and never finished. Then of course there's the issue of its complete lack of magnetic field to protect that life from damaging radiation from the sun. There's this ignorant mentality among the world today, and studies have confirmed that it's most prevalent in America, it's called "techno-optimism" and it's the completely unfounded and empirically unsupported belief that technology can and will solve every problem. I believe this to be the biggest hurdle to properly addressing climate change, a crisis largely and predominantly created by technology and shortsighted "techno-fixes" that may temporarily solve an issue, only to make it much worse in the future. Technology will not and cannot solve the ecological crisis, only a complete revolution in our relationship to reality will, like abandoning the the concept of perpetual economic and population expansion in a reality defined by limited and finite resources. Accepting the truth that we can either have a clean environment that supports lifebor our precious iPhone, but not both. If anybody thinks, this crisis will be solved without serious, and permanent sacrifice, they're sadly mistaken. This issue isn't going to be fixed from affar by a few scientists 9n a room who make some breakthrough, miracle technology.... Like EVERYBODY secretly thinks and assumes.
In the future people will have to meet some specific criterias in order to live in other planets and space habitats. Being a flat earther isn't one of them.
@@midnightexpress1567 Do you really don't want to believe in human science and technology and believe that we have never gone on the moon? Really? Do you believe that we as a species that have the power to end diseases, travel around the entire world in a short time, and have the power to wipe out are entire species as a whole cannot get to the moon? We had launching capabilities to space near the beginning of ww2! We couldn't even fake the moon landing back then. How about all the people that did watch the moon landing back then or all the time and money used on these missions? What about the space race between the USA and the USSR? If we didn't land on the moon why did we win? And saying that we haven't landed on the moon just implies that then one day we will be able to. But we already have.
They should hook up with that guy that made a cube that makes electricity using carbon dioxide and the by product is oxygen,unless they already killed it and him. That's better than what this guys doing. It could power the rover while making oxygen.
That drastically increases the event of a mental breakdown. Also, not to sound 12, but that would be so lame. Better that we wait until we have safe tech which will allow us to live on the surface. Right?
@@spencerburgess3689 The first astronauts would have to endure the mental challenges, that's what they will be signing up for. Also, I'm sure astronauts would prefer claustrophobia over insanely increased chances of contracting cancer.
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@@spencerburgess3689 Yeah I guess, but underground habitats, or at least habitats covered in Martian soil would be more practical. An exposed habitat has more risk of a breach, leading to depressurization. The natural protection from radiation by layers of Martian soil is also a big plus. We might have the technology to create long term exposed habitats, but if the survival of the residents is priority, I doubt any space program would be interested in taking those risks.
Jemuel Mongado I agree with your statements, but I’d like to mention that NASA held a Mars habitat design competition and an above ground design won so it can’t be that crazy.
Hi Seekers, thanks for watching! For more on Mars, check out this Focal Point on NASA’s 3D-Printed Habitat Challenge, a 4-year long competition centered around engineering habitats for deep space exploration, in this case Mars: ruclips.net/video/XWJ-sE08ASg/видео.html
Why do you do illustrate the CO2 looking like water? It is is not a bipolar molecule due to to the double bindings between each oxygen and the carbon.
Or more likely story... We are miners occupying giant bodies and we are sending the fruits of our labor to our leaders in space...
scale it up for terraforming
Can you add a video on atmospheric pressure on mars and how to get pressure safe for humans ?
What about plants?
"Oxyginator"
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@@Navoii. wow haha very funy my dude
@@HemiHalfCentury it's -inator not enater
Memes 50 years into the future:
Your childhood was awesome when oxygen came from these
*Picture of a tree*
Cold. Perfect future. *shudders*
@rp games Not the way were going. I'd agree, but if we made changes, it wouldnt take us more than 100 for sure. That would take cooperation on a level not seen on this planet before.
And those will basically be the boomer memes of that time haha
if humanity will exist till then
Earth niggas be like
"I love plants"
NASA: we just made a machine to make oxygen out of carbon dioxide
Trees: your about 350 million years late
*you‘re ffs
horsthorst11 r/whoosh r/foundthegrammarnazi
More like 6000 years.
@@heroninja1125 r/whoosh really doesn't make sense here you numskull
Human Being No, 385 million so he’s really close. It’s not 6000.
DIY Oxygen from Carbondioxide:
Step 1: Plant a plant
Step 2: Water it
You'd need a ridiculous amount of plants to make a carbon atmosphere breathable and not sure if you noticed but we kind of have a problem maintaining them here even without deliberate clearings. I'm humourless I know.
@@Journey_to_who_knows bruh... it's... a joke...
He said hes humorless batch
Now try it on Mars
Well chop chop.lets get the pants and trees up and running !!!
“The Golden box” man this is sounding more sci fi the more advanced we get
@@thedd5534 no. We need Æ S T H T I C
Wheres do u think they get the names from
True! Although the idea of science fiction is to show off technologies of the future, so as we continuously accelerate our progress we're going to end up passing sci-fi movies.
If you look back at the earliest sci-fi films there'll be technology there we take for granted now.
It’s just a name you knob
Exactly
so moxie is a real thing and not just something in surviving mars
Was thinking the same thing
Dr. Gearswell @ Seeker man hasn’t even been to the Moon,and you want us to believe they built a machine that produces oxygen ? LoL do you think that we are all morons ? ?
@@nadanada5698 i dont get what you mean at all. If you know the problem (no oxygen) along with knowing the atmosphere of the planet your going to, then why could we not use science to "filter" the outside of the atmosphere to an enclosed system that could properly build regulate and distribute the new "atmosphere" inside of the current atmosphere. Essentially creating a bubble. Its science. Its not easy, obviously, but we have the technology and resources to do this exact thing. Even if it isnt perfect thats why we have the engineers to make it possible.
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@@nadanada5698 your a complete ass hole haha. Get out of your own box bro. At least try not being a smart ass. Have a good one !
This was a nice break from the terrible reality we’re currently living in. Thanks y’all.
Indeed!
Covid will get you
@Bilal Khalid alright then guy, whatever you say. I guess excitement is haram now.
@Bilal Khalid I like how you believe the entire world is trying to lie to "the average" people
@ For it to work, first you have to have an undeserved grossly inflated self worth. Then "everyone" is lying and "you" are the victim.
I hope they make absolutely sure that no roaches stow away on those shipments.
just wait until they find out whats beneath the mars soil........................... :O
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@Mister Ious humans are full of bacteria and viruses
Vash TS : yes, their young would be massive in that gravity 😱😱😱
@@pvdg3515 ARGENT ENERGY!!
Make a business on Mars that sells oxygen and call it O’Hare Air.
Thneed too
Then we can sing that fire ass song
Yoo what if the lorax was based on Mars? Plastic is relatively cheap to produce, and each city was once colonies, the space between them is the once barren mars soil
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This might be a stupid question, but if this is developed more could it be used on earth to reverse global warming?
That would be so cool to have solar powered plants converting CO2 into carbon based products maybe and oxygen.
@Mr Ducktator yeah right. Good luck in the future when people like you are considered how traitors or commies are today
Yes I know but if they could build it on a massive scale since the gold is only used to reduce heating the electric components in the rover
@Lior Garber trees don't do much compared to algae.
Well it would be a waste of energy because earth has miniscule amount of co2 compared to Mars.
The only thing flat earthers fear is sphere itself.
Hahaha.
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@FullBlownSkeptic lol, what?
Actually, spiders kind of scare me too.
@FullBlownSkeptic okay FullBlownSkeptic
Type 1 civilization here we come!!! Terraforming has begun!
ReBleScUm101 Type 1 means using the full energy of our planet which he haven’t achieved yet terra forming has nothing to do with that
@@noblenormie1179 agreed. Though we would increase our type of civilization from ~.7 to ~.85 - .9
@@noblenormie1179 I would like to add, producing some oxygen from carbon dioxide is a far from terra forming. But it is a a good first step towards being able to have a colony on mars. Granted that colony would have to exist in domes of some kind but sounds like they MIGHT have a way of producing a large amount of oxygen to fill domes to be constructed in the future. If seeds could be germinated in domes at that point I wonder how much more oxygen could be produced.
Esther C. Couldn’t they survive in any round shape without corners?
I hope this goes down in the history of comments. LOL!
Y’all literally just gonna get copyrighted by a tree.
@Luke yeet Neither does this thing XD
Yeah. And dirt is good for planting trees. Why not just do that?
Wait a minute, doesn't that mean earth will not be destroyed with fewer trees? Rip to anyone that donated to. Teamtrees.org (mrbeast)😂😂
@@FahimKhan-zz9tn we get most of our oxygen from the sea
Yeetur McBeetur trees gonna copyright and in turn will request to get watered every week and get a large area to be planted on.
They actually did it. It took the small version they sent one hour to make 10 minutes of oxygen for one person. When they send large versions, they will be able to make oxygen indefinitely for anyone living there.
"How can SpaceX be so much more cost-efficient than us?"
"I don't know, man. Get back to that box of pure Gold we're working on."
Honestly I don't think the gold will be nessicary in the scaled up version.
They only used gold in the rover version of Moxie because its packed tightly in a rover next to a bunch of sensative equipment.
@@ViolentKisses87
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@@GNParty Thanks Grammar Nazi!
Thanks for explaining
@@ViolentKisses87
My pleasure.
Gold Box: *exists*
Elon Musk: I’LL TAKE THAT
Nah,
Elon Musk will engineer something for a fraction of the price, with no need for massive amounts of gold
@@daylightknight6373 if you want it for a fraction of the price and better design it wouldn't be that hard, instead of using gold to help with bringing heat away, use graphene, and you could set up the MOXIE machine to create graphene or even graphite using more cathode/anode arrays of different style to build layers of graphene rather than having that carbon go and form CO and CO2 inside the machine
@@chrispersinger5422 Maybe they were able to be more precise by using gold, or maybe it's more reliable, and reliability matters. Also, and this seems to be important, they heat this thing up to 800C and graphene combusts at 350C.
@@mmo4754 It can't combust with such low concentrations of O2 and I don't think graphene's combustion point is lower than gold's melting point as gold's melting point is fairly low. I would have to look it up I guess.
@@mmo4754 I looked it up and you are right about the temperatures, however, when heat os applied to graphene by current, only the electrons get excited, rather than the atom getting more thermal energy. So I am pretty sure graphene would be a suitable replacement as long as they could get it into the shape they want
I can’t seem to find one on amazon
You can find a second hand one on eBay.
I found it, it's only 5 Billion without Prime.
This is why even Amazon items aren't as inexpensive as they could and should be.
You can get it on wish for $5
yet
“If you had the power of geoengineering to terraform Mars into Earth, then you have the power of geoengineering to turn Earth back into Earth.” - Neil deGrasse Tyson
We aren’t even close to geoengineering
Great quote. The problem is energy. Does it make sense to burn carbon fuels to make energy, and then use all of that energy to remove the CO2 we just created to "turn Earth back into Earth"?
SciFi writer Larry Niven has suggested we're going to screw up this planet so bad it's barely livable. THEN, we'll fix it.
The upside? We'll know how to terraform.
@@scotth6814 nuclear?
@@nekusakuraba4000 Nuclear fission has problems with waste too, and safety. I'm hoping nuclear fusion will save us. If we had spent just a small fraction of our military budgets over the last 50 years on fusion research instead, we would have free limitless energy by now.
I legit thought he was gonna advertise skillshare at this moment - 5:02
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LOL - missed opportunity. And in reality it was along the lines of “if want to build hardware that will go to space, you need to know how to build things. And then when you build the things they need to work and things will be good”
Aliens planning a trip to another planet:
"Hey, let's go to Earth! Only problem, the atmosphere has a lot of oxygen!"
"Holy Fsck! That's a problem, oxygen is a corrosive poison. We'd never survive there!"
"That's OK, we have a machine to generate a lot of fresh methane. Problem solved."
Humans: Theres an awful lot of methane emissions coming out from the local farms
a lot of nitrogen* 78%, oxygen is only 20%
@@mr.bishops64 The cows are aliens... They have been watching us all along🤔
@@terintiaflavius3349 I believe it. I saw it in a documentary once. I think it was called South Park.
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Is 6 grams of oxygen per hour enough to keep a small dog alive? damn
You have to remember that the weight of Oxygen is only 0.001429g per cubic centimer, so 6gram would translate into almost 8 Liters
*sorry, roughly 4 Liters
Its a proof of concept. Research first, production later
Yeah well I think they'll kill the dog in the process of trying to keep it alive. A by product of that reaction is carbon monoxide, that shit will suffocate you faster than carbon dioxide... wel that's probably not true but it's definitely more dangerous than carbon dioxide.
@@SerweeFitness preeetty sure they already got that covered but I'm sure you know better than the NASA scientists
I feel like making the oxygen isn't the challenge, maintenance of such equipment will be. Plus oxygen is highly flammable, so if a person were to mess around with fire, the entire base that people will make on Mars will explode
You do know how oxygen works right?
I love your optimism😂
Oxygen isn’t as flammable as you’re making it out to be, otherwise the Earth would be a crispy dirt ball.
Oxygen itself isn't flammable because it is the oxidiser. It needs something else that *is* flammable to burn. Oxygen will make a fire worse, but it cannot burn by itself
well they wouldn't live in pure oxygen atmosphere because its also unhealthy to use pure oxygen all the time,im not sure why but its hard on the body to use it all the time
Watching Terminator feeling so hungry I really want a Baconator the only thing I have is uh... Oxygenator?
Hey, have some lemonator.
For tech reference, watch film "TotalRecall" (1990).
For accurate political and technical reference... see "Mars Attacks"(1996). Its far more up to date.
I know a Moxie who runs a bar on an arid planet - wonder if they’re related?
She got tig ol bitties?
it's Moxxi tho.
You're always welcome at Moxxi's, sugar!
Looters looking at that box like dayummm
Damn it, that was not on the list. Round 2. XD
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This has got to be one of the most important experiments on the mission I would think. Make things a hole lot easier.
YES TO HUMANITY AND EXPLORATION! :D
Follow by space wars over land grabs
Imagine bringing all the advanced technologies we have now to the past, like 1275. Imagine the look on their faces seeing tech for the first time ever
They’d probably declare whoever was presenting it a witch or something
If you bring modern tech back even a few decades, the faces will be of utter amazement. Why go all the way to 1275? And you’d probably be killed as a witch anyways.
@@land0118 or a God 😊
Listen up you primitive screw heads! This is my BOOMSTICK! -Bruce Campbell, Army Of Darkness 😂
@drug enforcement administration like, the sumerians did with the annunaki?
Imagine spending trillions of $$ on exploration rather than war / weapons .
This would be a world where i could live in.
And spend more on public health services
I heard estimates that the us could get down to 200 B a year on millitary if we backed out of NATO or if other countries spent more on millitary expenses, i am not sure how credible or accurate that was but seems realistic
Imagine spending that money on clean running water for the world and none of that BS
Well if we didn't have weapons then WW2 would have been very different and a lot of countries would be run by a communist or fascist regime
I can imagine advanced versions of MOXIE being built directly into Mars suits.
Excellent Idea !
And divers too:))
Look forward to wearing a 900 degree oven. Hmmm..... Try putting an oxy torch in your pocket to get ready for Mars.
@@kimbo99 yep, joke of a technical demonstrator. Not practical at all.
@@Shrouded_reaper Going to Mars seems utterly stupid to me it will cost us Trillions. We have enough debt already. It seems to bring out the boy scout in so many men. We cant live there in one third G, nor can babies bones develop. Radiation forces underground living. We can do that here much cheaper.
I like how they are lowering it so carefully, but they are planning on setting it on top of a giant explosion.
Damn they actually made the robot drippy with some gold 🥶
Best videos are about space tech! Love it, keep it up guys
If countries would use all of our military budget into space budget exploration. Damn, i just couldn't imagine how far we are in terms or technology if that came to happen.
Exactly
Sure. As soon as every country decided to get along . But we are all different and want different things.
Our rocket technology directly came from the military.
Use the military budget to make a space military!
I just want the UEE Thomas Prince vs MCRN Donnager!
i think getting the robots like asimo tuned up primed and finalized geared up with VR. controls out to mars would be the goal.. just gotta make a beefier satalite connection like leaving a string of communication satellites along the way to reduce the ping... perhaps
Yeah, less risk, but a connection that far away? Might be too expensive
Man I can’t wait to get high on Mars
The first thing you need to do is take your spacesuit helmet off in space before landing on terraformed Mars. It gives you a wicked buzz 😑
Dude! I’ve been thinking about that for awhile now. Weed potency depends on the how you grow it and also depends on what kind of soil is use. Imagine growing weed on mars. Must be some really good shit.
So it's basically a reverse-catalytic converter.
CheesyBread 🤣
Would that be the same as an inverse Covalytic catverter?
Sorry - I'm being silly. Too much pure O2, not enough N2...
which makes me wonder....
@@oscargoldman85 o_O
@@meghanachauhan9380 It was a joke, but a kernel of truth is that it may seem to Me that the Nitrogen Gas is almost as important as oxygen, since we cannot breath 90% CO2 and 10% Oxygen, we still need the 85% N2. and since it is 85% (80%? whatevs) it means we will need to harvest 8 times as much of it from the Martian atmosphere, as we do O2.
But unlike the Earth, N2 is only available in trace amounts (less than 1% of the very faint Martian atmosphere).
This is obviously a problem with many straight forward solutions, and I'm sure that racks of O2 bottles filled by robot, will seem like Mothers Milk to Astronauts , yuou dont want to breath alot of stuff, and I dont think helium is easy to get there either.
:)!
After it announced officially work on mars, let's built a bigger one on earth. And put it on industrial and urban region
This reminds me of the patrick meme that would go like this:
“Why don’t we just take the polar ice caps and trees, and move them to Mars?”
Obviously speaking this is a joke that I don’t see being implemented at all but still
And it just happened, huge congratulations!
We really gonna colonize mars😀
Such a refreshing change to have a non - affectatious human voice actually embodied and explaining in detail but in an understandable , and intonated delivery .
The ones who dislike this are paid by someone? How to dislike such a project? I will never understand
Yes We Are...
Theyre either flat earthers or trump supporters.. my guess is both
There are some people who are anti-science. It’s a knee-jerk reaction for them.
They think space exploration is a waste of money
@@cat7688 Must you bring trump into every conversation. It's pathetic.
You could build a huge greenhouse like structure with glass that filters the UV light and thwn you'd be able to farm inside it once they make a small HQ after that just keep expanding it as much as you need.
I can imagine the first factories in Mars producing machines for building and expanding.
My coolest idea would be a nuclear like chain reaction that splits C and O²
Clever design, especially considering there'll be a lot of waste heat generated by the RTG. The box will take good use of that heat.
Yea clever but the atmosphere is also really thin and if we used this for colonies there then we wouldn’t have enough for a lot of people. But if instead we harvested the frozen water and made it into hydrogen and oxygen then we would be able to sustain more people.
@@matthewgeiger7705 The Martian soil is known for not suitable for earth plants to grow. So before we can terraform the planet enough to grow plants in large scale, we'll need a way to recycle the oxygen in pressurized colonies. This golden box is a brilliant start.
Tapis T I’m not saying it isn’t but I’m pretty sure it’s been proven with human feces Martian soil can be used to plant earth plants. Even if we recycled the carbon dioxide that the colony would breath out if there are a lot of people the boxes couldn’t keep up with such a thin atmosphere to steal carbon dioxide from or even from the humans for that matter. Both converting water into oxygen and co2 into oxygen should be used to sustain a colony.
@@matthewgeiger7705 "Martian soil is toxic, due to relatively high concentrations of perchlorate compounds containing chlorine." quoted from Wikipedia.
And yes, electrolyzing water should be used to sustain the air supply. But for a quite long period Martian colonies will remain in form of pressurized domes.
Tapis T yeah my facts were from the movie Martian oops. We need more technology to be able to terraform an entire planet but creating a colony in pressurized domes underground is a good start.
Mars leadership: we're on lockdown, stay safe and stay at home
Earthlings/covid-19: imma coming
Imagine being this unfunny
All this stuff about humans getting to go to Mars reminds me of a story from when I was a kid... I'd like to read it again if I could remember it..
I really hope that the little Gold box works to fab. a really greatly needed piece of hardware for mars missions. I am sure that Elon will love you for this little gold box, it will be a very vital equipment to the Mars base.
It will keep a small dog or cat alive. That is all.
David Beppler It’s a start . If it manages to create oxygen as theoretically proposed . It will be applied in further larger applications that could provide enough oxygen for humans .
alonzo ellis When is Elon launching his next mars rover?
I guess we can safely say that the rover is full of moxie.😂
Wtf is that shitty joke supposed to mean?
@@tobiaslagos hahahhahahhaa
Can it be upscaled to terraform the whole planet? And What will they do with all the carbon monoxide byproduct?
I’m sure I would be much more excited if I understood a single word you just said
Who's here after perseverance landing on Mars and Moxie working out ?
This just made me really excited about the prospect of visiting Mars
Do anybody else got that washing powder ad before the video .
MoviesClipOfficial yess
Yes like tf
yep. Funny that a science channel has an anti-science ad on it
Yeah, I dont know either!
We: have Gold ring
He: have Gold box
They finally put a tree in a box and sent it to mars!
Why not convert CO2 of earth to oxygen and carbon... Carbon can be stored in bed rocks or use for something use able
It’s useless on earth because volcanoes keep erupting releasing tons of co2 everyday.
@Bilal Khalid NASA isn't Lying.
"I must hurry to the Atmosphere Plant, Dejah Thoris, or Barsoom is doomed!"
Always got time for a Seeker vid
Omg seeker ...ur videos are superrr interesting 🤗🤗🤗😆😆😆😆
First of all that’s cool, & good job. However is there away to utilize all of the oxygen in co2 with out creating co as well?
Sabatier process would create methane and oxygen from water and co2
@@skyrask1948 I'm afraid you may be mistaken, Sebastier produces water and methane from hydrogen and CO2, hydrogen would be harder to work with than water. Maybe a water-gas shift could work. The low pressure and temperature make it inconvinient if we are to do it like it is done on Earth, the reaction would work, but the process would need a redesign to be viable.
The left over CO would be fantastic for turning all the iron rich Martian dust into pure iron for building materials. We will need CO to do this anyway because we have to mine our own materials on Mars. It's far too expensive to ship it from Earth.
@@TheMrCarnification Yes i totally forgot you need to electrolize water first into hydrogen and oxygen. That sabatier process it is used to create fuel and not oxygen since that one comes from water. My bad.
Not an expert, but perhaps algae would work?
They produce oxygen from CO2.
They’re extremely fast growing (can double their size daily in ideal conditions; or so i’ve heard), and nearly all (or just all, not sure though) types of oils you can get from crude oil, can be extracted from algae aswell, depending on which type you grow and the way you process it.
There’s also potential for using the leftover dry mass after oil extraction as feed for livestock (so maybe it’s not too far fetched that it could with some processing feed humans; pure speculation though) or you could use it in a bioreactor to turn it into fuel aswell.
Algae can also grow in wastewater(might even grow better in it, not sure though) which means nutrients lost due to the astronauts excreting it on the toilet, could be recuperated?
Have also heard that algae contain omega-3 which is something we normally get from fish and is essential for a healthy brain. So you could produce that locally with algae.
Also on a completely different note; i’ve heard of something called ‘syngas’ and ‘chemical looping’, if i remember correctly syngas can be used to make all sorts of long chained carbon molecules which would be handy for plastic production and the likes. And chemical looping is a process which should make syngas production easier.
Again i’m no expert on these topics so if anyone wants to correct any mistakes i may have made or wants to add something to what i said, feel free to do so.
1 year ago - will made
now - has made
I was once told that anything we see that’s new technologies is already 20 yrs out of date
Rupert John : very true my friend, but ,sad reality is, we have to get our investments back !
George Halbert : thanks George for your comment mirrors the rest of the conversation I had with my long lost friend , he worked for a obscure branch of the UK gov🤫
Basically, you're saying they hold back on the tech they show us so by the time they show us millennials they've already made better tech. Hence the out of date
Couldn’t you use it in cities to clean the air , sort this planet out first, were already here.
Carbon monoxide is worse than carbon dioxide
Cesare Vissani , then sort that out
Good idea, do you know any organization with the level of funds of NASA who wants to do that?
Joaquin not without expecting a profit, but one day they’ll have no choice, so at least have some ideas in the pipeline, for that rainy day.
@@deano43 I like your idea it may work. Though one concern, oxygen levels have been constant on earth for a long long time and should remain that way. With this conversion we might alter this level and make the planet hotter or unstable, which also might not be the case as this biological world knows how to keep balance.
Two things. It makes CO which makes this seem pointless and What does a lack of CO2 do to the mars environment?
Imagine when we make this thing more effective. This is a big step to colonizing other planets
We are overpopulated on Earth and it would benefit everything if we started to look at other objects as potential homes. And we are very close to mastering life
@@StrainHunterRyuu It would be a strategic play to colonize another object. When we do, we will have less of a need to mine for certain elements on earth. This will increase Earth's "life". We are also working on improving our capability to edit DNA. We are the rulers of Earth and we will be the rulers of life pretty soon
Mankind cannot destroy the world unless there is a massive nuclear war, our current world is changing all the time, he is not always for you The Earth has extinguished hundreds of millions of species over hundreds of millions of years by its own changes to the world, and humans are nothing more than ants compared to the Earth. To set foot on other planets and leave a way out for our future, otherwise we'll just be wiped out by asteroids as easily as the dinosaurs of the past, and humanity... It's impossible to stay in the cradle forever, the universe is so big that it can be home to humans anywhere you can if you can afford it, and the universe doesn't abide by that. ridiculous moral code of ethics, every life has a natural law that suits them, and every civilization has their own that A set of civilized laws, and anyone who thinks their laws are the truth is naive and never grows up, such people are arrogant Arrogantly, you can enjoy your life now, not because we abide by the rules of survival of other animals, but simply by our own. of, but if you want to get people to listen to you, then you're 100% using a higher level of force than other beings to do so, such as on the plant Control, just like vegans force plants to provide them with energy.
Somehow I find it funny how carefully they put the golden box ito the rover... A box that will be sent in space with rocket and land on another planet. Surely it won't break if they put it down a bit roughly.
its sensitive
The box is sensitive and is protected within the rover
@@VoxelMusic being inside the rover does not protect it from G-forces in liftoff and landing.
@@outandabout259 gforces dont matter as its all fixed in its not going to bang around inside.
They send a Mars Rover equiped with the Golden Oxygen maker...
Sounds like a sci fi movie plot.
I am seriously interested in what this experiment is going to achieve
This smell like The Expense
Reminds me of the Ark of the covenant
One more underrated channel
They should definitely improve this device before running it for longer periods of time, especially for human settlement. Carbon monoxide being produced in equal quantity would poison life.
There's not much life on Mars my dude and we're very far away from terraforming the planet.
Simple solution: just don’t mix the carbon monoxide with the oxygen sent to the habitats
Murali Kadambi wow, there no way any one at NASA ever thought of that. It must be hard being so smart
It's not meant for creating breathable habitats on Mars. Also, it produces double the carbon monoxide for every oxygen molecule.
Lol, we need oxygen here on earth first..;)
we've got plenty of it though here on our planet?
You being able to type that without passing out suggests there is plenty of it.
@@Thomas-nc9fz proof?
@@mattym8038 co2 has zero impact on anything?
@@dynestis2875 global warming?
why not use the aquaman crystal??
"Hi, my name is Boxie"
think she's still on Gaia?
And I can make Oxygen like a tree
All chemist cringing when they see a carbon leaving group from CO2
Why? Going into higher energy states is nothing special. You just need to pump energy into it.
@@Dysputant Yes. And sunlight is abundant on Mars.
Sklawz Einstein Abundant but useless if it isn't controlled
@@BarryObama666 It is abundant
Sklawz Einstein it is abundant but due to dust storms and distance from sun, our energy output from solar will be much lower there then here, we’ll likely be using solar as more of a supplementary source of power while nuclear is the main source.
The oxygen maker from surviving mars
I saw a guy talk about this on 60 minutes over 7 years ago he said he made a box
Who uploads at 4 in the morning?! Not that I'm complaining...but still
East coasters
@@MrBassbump That actually makes a lot of sense. Looking back, it just seems obvious. I guess my mind stops working at 4am lmao
@@gabedarrett1301 same her man. I'm in California and I just woke up
Yo I have not gone to sleep 😭
Well, here it's 1 pm so...can't relate
4:30 the biggest issue here would be that there is no nitrogen in this atmosphere. This was an issue of the early space explorations. The Russian use 78% nitrogen 21% oxygen
Finally!! We've figured out we should seperate any available co2 into oxygen and carbon! Finally!
adam meyer But it’s deadlier then it seems. Because carbon monoxide (CO) is more dangerous then carbon dioxide.
@@SCORPOON then we need away to filter the exhaust of this thing and turn the whole machine into a two part filter.
*happy Elon Musk noices*
hahahaha
These mars videos Make me see how bright the future is
3000 years from now martians will be searching for this box, As there own ark of the covenant.
World : Due to COVID pandemic O2 cylinder is less than need
Seekers: So What,we will produce O2 on Mars😀😜😜
“Gets ya ass to mars!”
I’m going for twoooo weeks!
Soo... Like plants?
Yeah. But on mars
Yes, but they only run on electricity and they make carbon monoxide and carbon dioxide as a waste product
Honestly I can see it being more space efficient than plants, but more energy efficient I doubt it.
Either way a colony will need equipment like this in case there is plant die off, also plants don't produce oxygen during their sleep cycle and are dependant on light as well.
I would assume colonies would try and be mostly dependant on photosynthesis and have these or similar tech for backup.
who needs trees emma right
Or like humans just backwards
America's most expensive way of collecting rocks.
Synthetic oxygen seems like a terrifying and incredible concept, 2067 film vibes.
"Duststorm vs not duststorm" must be the best description ever.
🤣
Thumbnail looked like a foamy beer mug... so I clicked.
Haha 😂
Looked like 🍺 to me as well 😂💔
So when we launch gold into space, is gold worth more after that?
@ bc of supply and demand, there is less gold but still the same demand.
The problem with Mars is that unlike the earth, it has no longterm carbon dioxide cycle. On earth, there's a cycle in which carbon dioxide is washed from the atmosphere by rain, then embedded in sedimentary rocks, then over hundreds of millions of years those rocks are taken into the mantle by subduction zones, then melted and spit back out by volcanoes. This cycle has been essential to life on earth, and that cannot be overstated... The fact that earth is geologically active it one of those most important conditions for sustainable life. Since Mars is geologically dead, any attempts to geoengineer its atmosphere will have to be continuous and never finished. Then of course there's the issue of its complete lack of magnetic field to protect that life from damaging radiation from the sun.
There's this ignorant mentality among the world today, and studies have confirmed that it's most prevalent in America, it's called "techno-optimism" and it's the completely unfounded and empirically unsupported belief that technology can and will solve every problem. I believe this to be the biggest hurdle to properly addressing climate change, a crisis largely and predominantly created by technology and shortsighted "techno-fixes" that may temporarily solve an issue, only to make it much worse in the future. Technology will not and cannot solve the ecological crisis, only a complete revolution in our relationship to reality will, like abandoning the the concept of perpetual economic and population expansion in a reality defined by limited and finite resources. Accepting the truth that we can either have a clean environment that supports lifebor our precious iPhone, but not both. If anybody thinks, this crisis will be solved without serious, and permanent sacrifice, they're sadly mistaken. This issue isn't going to be fixed from affar by a few scientists 9n a room who make some breakthrough, miracle technology.... Like EVERYBODY secretly thinks and assumes.
Good. Can we ship flatearthers to the moon and leave them there? That’s all I want.
Yew
Mister Ious just to prove them wrong while they die
Mister Ious you’re so evil :))
In the future people will have to meet some specific criterias in order to live in other planets and space habitats. Being a flat earther isn't one of them.
Generating oxyzen is cool but how to we manage Carbon monooxide which is again a dangerous byproduct.
Just throw it away?
*Looks at dislikes*
Flat marsers are doubting humanity again
@Bilal Khalid
So you are a flat earther?
When was the last time we went to the moon? Oh yeah, never.
@@midnightexpress1567
That's your opinion and no one cares what you think
@@MrSyrianGhost Apparently you do. All butt hurt. Wawaa
@@midnightexpress1567 Do you really don't want to believe in human science and technology and believe that we have never gone on the moon? Really? Do you believe that we as a species that have the power to end diseases, travel around the entire world in a short time, and have the power to wipe out are entire species as a whole cannot get to the moon? We had launching capabilities to space near the beginning of ww2! We couldn't even fake the moon landing back then. How about all the people that did watch the moon landing back then or all the time and money used on these missions? What about the space race between the USA and the USSR? If we didn't land on the moon why did we win? And saying that we haven't landed on the moon just implies that then one day we will be able to. But we already have.
They should hook up with that guy that made a cube that makes electricity using carbon dioxide and the by product is oxygen,unless they already killed it and him. That's better than what this guys doing. It could power the rover while making oxygen.
What mechinism will be used to clear the filter on the o2 device? as filters have a tendancy to block up.
Mars can't hold an atmosphere Earth like. Better go with underground domes, to protect from the solar radiation.
That drastically increases the event of a mental breakdown. Also, not to sound 12, but that would be so lame. Better that we wait until we have safe tech which will allow us to live on the surface. Right?
@@spencerburgess3689 The first astronauts would have to endure the mental challenges, that's what they will be signing up for. Also, I'm sure astronauts would prefer claustrophobia over insanely increased chances of contracting cancer.
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@@spencerburgess3689 Yeah I guess, but underground habitats, or at least habitats covered in Martian soil would be more practical. An exposed habitat has more risk of a breach, leading to depressurization. The natural protection from radiation by layers of Martian soil is also a big plus. We might have the technology to create long term exposed habitats, but if the survival of the residents is priority, I doubt any space program would be interested in taking those risks.
Jemuel Mongado I agree with your statements, but I’d like to mention that NASA held a Mars habitat design competition and an above ground design won so it can’t be that crazy.