Perfect Sequel. Imperfect Game. - Mega Man Battle Network 2 Review
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- Опубликовано: 6 авг 2024
- 2021 is the 20th anniversary of Megaman Battle Network! Join me in celebrating the highs and lows of this amazing RPG series one entry at a time!
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Music from Megaman Battle Network 2
Additional music provided by
Team.Nekokan (Airman Ga Taosenai)
Lichtträger (Ready to Die chiptune version) 
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Yes I am incredibly mediocre at the game, thank you for noticing.
I don't really care how you say Chaud. Say it however you want.
Yes I'm covering all the other main Battle Network games as well.
I learned how to use the guts machine gun. You just press b rapidly.
If they upgraded this game it would sell wonders.
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As a note, ShadowMan's blue clones aren't invincible. They function like Shadow viruses and can only be destroyed by swords.
I think the most interesting thing about mmbn progression is how it sorta reflects real life from the early 2000s.
What I mean is, early in the series, and the anime, Lan jacked in to appliances using a cable. Wifi connection wasn't mainstream in the early 2000s either.
It wasn't until later in the series that jacking in to devices with a wireless signal became a thing. It just happened to be around the time wifi internet connection became the norm.
Showing my age hard here
48:37
Lan: "I, a literal child with more competence than basically the entire police force, will go basically throw away my innocent young life by soaking myself in super-cancer-causing radiation and fighting literal goddamn terrorists to solve a problem for those useless adults!" *Heroic Theme Plays*
Dad: "As your dad it is literally my responsibility to protect you from putting yourself in idiotically dangerous situations, but this is basically just a Shonen arc, so... Go get 'em, Son!"
Sean : "And I, the leader of the NetMafia who blew an agent up, ordered one to drown with his victims while flooding a city, threw my enemies in medieval death traps and *eradicated an entire nation's internet infrastructure* (which, you know, given the future this takes place in, dooms them to oblivion in the real world also) was ALSO just a little boy whose parents died ! I will also soak myself in the super-cancer radiations and suffer absolutely no consequence, ironically appearing twice near a hospital in the next game, without being a patient there for the terminal illness I definitely should have died from already."
God damn it this is gold
Dr. Wily: and I, a fully grown adult human being, bent on destroying the world because the Government decided not to fund my research, but instead my ”best friend's”. So I will attempt to start entire World Wars, manipulate this child into soaking himself in super-cancer-causing radiation, raise someone else's child to help me in this endeavor in the future, and indirectly be the entire reason this series even exists, so I can have revenge against my ”best friend”.
@@miteihiro3283 I like how battle network wily is more sadistic
"Son's"
This game was pretty dark. Especially that one NPC who does the quiz side quest. A quiz champion or something died, but his regrets for someone to solve his quiz, possess a small child. Problem is he possess the kid for like 80 years, so when Lan beats the quiz and the quiz guy leaves the body, the kid wakes up as a very old man with no memory of what happened. Lost his family who are certainly dead by now and his whole life to a crazy quiz ghost.
That is such a weird fucked up side story I'm kinda sad I missed it.
"Why is that a removable program" to be fair, you can uninstall system 32
1:03:39
"What about us? Well...
Lan developed five different types of cancer due to intense radiation poisoning. Doctors estimate he must have at most 3 weeks."
Yeah, I love how this major element of tension in the climax is *completely without consequence* . We even see in the epilogue of BN6 that he will grow up and have children.
Good thing this series is deathly afraid of the characters changing, so he'll be 3 weeks from dying for the next 18 years.
Naw brah, it’s the future so they got those fancy radiation pills………………..
………………. 🫥
Lan unlocked bug-style and became immune to the cancers.
@@blara2401we don’t find out if there’s anything wrong with those kids or not tho
I love how Chaud just straight up accusing Lan (who saved the world in previous game) instead of doubting Pride.
Still coping after the ElecMan scenario, I suppose.
Princess Pride did pretend to sacrifice herself earlier in the dungeon, so he assumed that she weren't an active factor anymore.
Tbf, Chaud is the same guy who got so fed up with Lan in the first game that he decided to give Protoman the order to murder Megaman just to get him out of the way. There was clearly more to that accusion than any suspicion, Chaud was being an ass.
As much as I love the Battle Network series, I loathe how it completely and utterly forgets previous characters. Shun comes back in BN3 and says like 2 lines of dialogue and that's it, never mentioned again. There's an entire arc centered around saving Mamoru and he also never comes back and is never mentioned again. Hell, I'm pretty sure they don't even point out how Gregar and Gospel are basically the same creature.
You said it dude. Also, love the profile pic. Perfect taste is waifus.
@@huynhvuongviet2410
Shun/Sean is the leader of Gospel and the big bad of Battle Network 2 who turns out to be of Lan's age. Lan promises to be his friend at the end of Battle Network 2. He shows up again in 3 to remind Lan of that promise and is never ever mentioned again.
Mamoru is indeed the kid in the wheelchair.
Gospel = mass of bugfrags gathered artificially
Gregar = mass of bugfrags that gathered naturally
They're the same kind of creature, made via different means. Gregar is much, much stronger than Gospel as a result of being made naturally and thus "perfect".
@@ginger-ham4800 They do mention Gospel when talking about Gregars formation. It's just in like one sentence during the explanation.
Battle Network is awful with continuity, for sure. Everyone in the world cheers MegaMan on to save the world from Duo's asteroid. Come literally the next game, people still feel the need to test Lan and MegaMan to see if they're strong enough to beat some random jackass who hasn't saved the world four times.
@@ginger-ham4800 But Gospel is combined with Bass's data, Gospel doesn't have Bass data, so Gospel could be stronger
Cutman is hilarious the most 1:1 recreation of a boss classic, like, everyone else got edgier redesigns, but Cutman stay cutting.
i mean, how do you improve perfection?
@@kingfayla5868You don't!!!
@@oghosaosula9165 Cutman will always be here to take his cut!
@@Fenyx_BirbCut it out
@@ljpal18You seem to be on edge, I reccommend you cut down on stress and sharpen your mind.
The world need to know more about MMBN, it was my only game that i had when i had the game boy and i love it
I wish there were battle network spin offs for choad, dex and maybe some new characters
I had the gba emulator and only messed with megaman and FE
@@ninjaboy5674 same here dude but pokemon games and its hack rom
How did you know where to go? I feel like these games were horrible at direction.
Wow I always thought his name was CHOD not CHOW now I feel dumb lol
The black guy in the airplane is my favourite character lol
28:00 "getting an S rank requires you to beat the boss in under 30 seconds without getting hit"
Haha Gater go Brrr
Lan goes to the radiation island with the one single suit
Meanwhile his friends: "I'll use the magic words, I'm rich"
The review was pretty good so far, although a few things to note:
V2 version’s of Bosses are always in 1 location, although they are invisible. You have to defeat them before v3’s become random encounters. Also generally, each area will have 1 Boss Ghost Data in the region (Airman for Den Area, Quickman for Kotobuki, Cutman for Yumland, Knightman for Netopia, Magnetman for the early areas of the Undernet, Shadowman for the first part of the Undernet that you don’t need to access as apart of the main story, and Freezeman in the deepest part of the Undernet. The Secret Bosses, except Bass Deluxe stay in the WWW Area they controlled.)
Also I’m surprised you never mentioned the Field effects or specifically that the Dev’s must hate Freezeman as he takes 4x the damage from Elec attacks thanks to his Elemental Weakness + Field negative effect.
Also side note - Knightman can eventually get to your field, but he’s still very slow.
I am surprised nobody mentioned this under this comment, but me personally didn't know some specific thing for a long time as well.
Soo... among all the SubChips there's a special one (and pretty expensive) that's called LocEnemy. When used, it raises the odds of the setup of the latest battle for some time, making it easier to farm specific chips. This can be used when player just met v3 navi somewhere in the internets to increase the amount of free attempts to beat the bestest chip out of this navi.
This makes v3 encounters not _that_ random as it might seem. But still more random than necessary.
@@FalcorRedDragon there is another way to manipulate the odds as well - if you save and keep resetting the game after you find an encounter it’s more likely that you can guarantee that encounter (basically go LockEnemy, Save, go for a random encounter. If it’s not the boss then reset and keep going until you get him
I just want to say something about the Knightman thing. I was curoius as a kid and let him take my panels just for the lulz. What happened was he started spamming his morningstar once he got to my mid panel. It also made it impossible to retake them lmao
@@Megamanlanprime Did you know that if you go to Undernet 5 and soft reset for the Green Mystery data, there is a chance for 50,000 Zenny for each GMD?
@@midnightstrike3625 yep, it’s a low chance though.
"C'mon! Everybody's got a reason to live!"
"Not me! I hate this world! I want to die!"
*YEP*
Many of us played these games in our teens. And as grown adults with work/school/responsibilities: many of us do not have the time to play through these games again. I am so thankful you have created a long review/let's play for to enjoy once again and to get to the general plot points of the games. Thank you so much and I look forward to your future vids !
Dear god this video is long... I was really stressed about meeting your guys' expectations after how much support the first video got. There's probably one or two mistakes in there since it's over an hour but I hope you'll cut me a little slack on the small details.
Nah, relax. In the first video you were you talking about the absurdities of the game and the things that you liked.
We came here for your take on reviewing this series.
Good job on the video by the way, I will be looking out for the next review whenever you feel like reviewing it.
No worries at all! I love long, detailed videos :^)
Expectations definitely met my man. I was drawn in with the silent hill videos since they’re some of my favourite games and then you started dropping battle network videos which were my favourite game boy advance games growing up. Used to play these games at reeces in middle school with my friends, shits mad nostalgic for me
Honestly I loved it, the battle network series is one of my childhood favorites and I haven’t seen any high quality reviews of it in the past on this site so I’m really glad someone is finally doing it justice.
Took me a number of watches but now I’ve thought of something stupid to say. So why does bass hate rock man cause he killed his trebel. Like John wick he just want his dog back and he is a man of forte
"I hate how people mistreat nature so I want to flood the entire region to punish humanity. The fact that this would fuck up most of the forests in the region is never addressed."
mmm, yeah smart thinkin' there _Dave_
"Trees nourish humans with oxygen, so they must be destroyed!"
Never trust a man named Dave.
@@shizzleblitz I have a terrible dad who ignored me most of my life and a freak brother who blames everything in his life on something that happened when he was 6, both named dave. no shock ther
Putting that 170 IQ to good use
@@shizzleblitzDave was never evil. He pretended to be part of Gospel/Grave.
54:44 Wait so you're telling me the entire time we're doing this whole "surprise! it was a fake" scene everyone has just been standing next to each other? Not a single person thought to look up from their PET and ask "Hey Dex is that your navi? No? Oh ok." or maybe "Hey Lan we're still plugging into the server, go ahead and delete whatever those copies are." What's more this crazy super villain would have seen everyone walk into the room, plug into his computer, and then have their navis run to megaman. Chaud must've been standing literally in front of him for a solid 5 minutes and only now realizes who he is. Oh and everyone is still standing inside a building that is filled with lethal levels of radiation. I was not ready for this much anime all at once.
Jesus christ.
7:49
Dude I haven’t heard the “Can’t beat AirMan” song in so longgggg
im surprised lan was able to concieve patch at the end of the series with how much radiation he was exposed to in the endgame.
hell, i'm surprised he didnt start growing a third arm.
Can we talk about just how accurate Lan's throwing arm is? He can plug in from that far with the infrared module
As the building is basically crashing down too
Imagine throwing a USB hard enough to actually force it into the plug.
@@TheAzulmagia Imagine not needing 3 tries to plug on a usb port
It’s definitely a harder target to hit than beaning a cowboy with a Nokia
“Foreshadowing” to the throw he makes in the next game
I can't believe we didn't talk about the best translation error of BN1. Load Chaud
*Legs go, Lan!*
Shademan: I wish I could fly.
2:26 Lan has a pic of Duo in his room. Huh. That's some deep foreshadowing.
That must be an early version of Duo from the classic Mega Man games. But yes, it is foreshadowing!
20:45 boy did I hate this during my 100% in BN4... Second game, first encounter... was AQUAMAN OMEGA.
They really screwed up the power scaling there as not only the bosses' higher tier chips aren't worth the struggle to get them, but also you're stuck with the weak chips in the first playthrough
@@inconemay1441
Capcom: so well make a new game + mechanic
Fans: neat
Capcom: And unlocked bosses will remain unlocked
Fans: Makes sense
Capcom: But your folder won't carry over nor there will be a quick way to recover it
Fans: ..... what
@@elhugox1 You do keep your souls and chips in the 2nd and 3rd playthroughs, but stuff like the C Slider has to be repurchased
Dave just letting Lan hack his phone to delete the detonation program, right there, had me busting up laughing at how incredibly stupid this guy is. He supposedly has an IQ of 170. xD
I guess we were going with the shounen rule of "smart = arrogant" with Dave.
Uh, don't forget, Dave was Quickman's mysterious operator in Network Transmission.
??? But he says in the cutscene that deleting Quickman is what would CAUSE the bomb to go off.
Yeah so Megaman can detonate the bomb lol
The element of your 1st style is determined by the frame upon which you start the game, so there are audio cue setups, but they're so specific, and since every element has at least SOME viability, it's only relevant to speedrunning if you're going for World Record. The blue shadow clones can be destroyed with sword chips.
Ty that's insightful
@@ashharkausar413 no problem. I have a speedrunning tutorial that might also have some tech to enhance regular playthroughs as well. If you have time to watch them, please let me know if they were enjoyable.
@@Cyber_Elf_Elpizo ill check it out
Thanks on my run I got Aqua Guts though Heat Guts would of been better actually. 🤔
@@SonBlackHeart22 believe it or not, aquaguts is actually better than heatguts. while it's less damage per hit you can fire far more often and it doesn't lock you in place for as long, so if you're out of chips for the turn you're never going to be short on damage output.
If you want to cheese the Gospel fight (and a LOT of other fights in the game): Get chips that turns the whole board into poison marsh and then have a FixPanl* chip as your chip that's always in your starting hand. Any grounded enemy is going to start taking a ton of damage and you can win by literally just dodging attacks. It's super cheesy!
Love how you kept calling Chaud "Chode" and the "John bitches about ice for five minutes" gave me a laugh.
Fun fact: Battle Network 2 in Japan released in the same year as the first game, 2001.
Two years later here with a added on fun fact. This game came out 3 months after 9-11 and there was a airplane hijacking scenario. Showcasing once again in history that Japan quite literally doesn't give a single fuck about the USA.
Ah, I have so much nostalgia. Battle Network 2 was my first entry into the series, being one of my first GBA games, (my brother had the misfortune of getting Battle Network 4 first, lol), and although I started on a completed save file which made things confusing, the series definitely hooked me here. I'm glad to see that this entry was where they really figured the formula out, even if it has its flaws such as padding. It's nice to see someone taking a fairly in-depth look at not only a video game series I am massively nostalgic for, but even the specific game I hold closest in memory.
The whole atmosphere of the endgame area was so intense and awesome, that building was literally scary to approach, and yet I couldn't help but be drawn to it. The final boss ends up sticking out in my mind most, even if it's probably the final boss that gets talked about the least (despite its relation to Gregar and the expanded role it had in the anime, and the fact that it's just this creepy, vaguely monster-shaped mess of viruses that subverts its mundane appearance with its unstable shapeshifting and constant data barrage). Although as a whole, it feels like Megaman Battle Network 2 feels kind of forgotten, compared to just about everything that comes after-for good reasons, admittedly, especially considering Battle Network 3. I look forward to seeing a review on that nonetheless, as well as checking out more of this channel.
literally died laughing at the freezeman part, complete with 8-bit Andrew WK in the background. perfect.
Just finished this game yesterday. I'm still not convinced the last chapter wasn't a fever dream my mind made up.
To all the people complaining about how you play. I’m sure that’s how all of use played when the game first came out and we didn’t have access to the internet.
Most people got online using dial-up connections. I can recall spending a lot of time in numerous chat rooms and/or message boards.
I learned about z-cannon on accident. I was very confused and then I was extremely happy now I had a weapon to deal with Quickman
My mission to find a battle network review channel is complete!
Don't worry dude I suck too. Gimme a hug
8:42
Why is Protoman's chip code B?
Because they unnecessarily changed his name from Blues.
Cool. Cool. And why is Bass's chip code F?
Because they unnecessarily changed his name from Forte.
Oh, so its a theme in the game?
Same reason why EraseMan's chip from BN6 comes in K code because, well, "KillerMan".
I never finished 1 and 2 so I forgot that Bass' chip code used to be F instead of X
Well, it has always been their japanese name in classic series too, it would be the same as complaining Megaman isnt Rockman. Just consistency, and changing the chip code would need balancing because certain combos, PA, etc expect certain sinergy and try to avoid some code being too strong overral(not saying it does, just saying it tries, ffs gater PA is in this game lol)
Also Larkman's chip code is S for Sparrowman I think. I don't even know why they changed this one.
@@brianli6562 Too long for MMBN engine's stupid 8 character limit
The sci lab in this game isn’t sci lab, it’s a temporary work location for Lan’s dad
Yep. It's just the Official Center.
On a repeat playthrough I actually noticed that sean shows up during the plane scenario. I didn't find him in other areas, but there was so much oppurtunity to foreshadow more of him by having him appear during every scenario.
For anyone playing who wanna speed through the game, get the Gater Combo Advance. It's easy to build early game, does tons of damage, useful against 99% of the Navis and only require gateman, wind and fan G or *.
Also if you have trouble getting S ranks then try to get GutsStyle. Super Armor not only stops you from flinching, it makes it so that getting hit doesn't lower your Busting Lv.! It also works in BN3!
MMBN games are timeless. I'm still playing these. 3 being the best.
MMBN2 was a special game to me as a kid. I loved it so much. I'm playing through it again for the first time in ages. I kid you not, this is the most I've been invested in a video game in so long, even though I have so many game PC games and Switch games that I've barely touched. Playing it again takes me back to a simpler time. I've been going through depression lately I think, and it's been hard for me to enjoy anything genuinely. This has been a little escape for me, to help me feel something again when I felt like I've been numbed lately.
No! Those monsters! How could they do these atrocities to-NAME REDACTED
What is Name Redacted
@@larrychilders6599 It is NAME REDACTED.
[(country)]
I always assumed that the reason why Lan cares about becoming an official NetBattler is because official NetBattlers get paid. That's why Chaud is never seen going to school: he's already in his career as an official NetBattler. He makes money by deleting evil Navis.
40:49 Megaman Execute Battle Chip: Stereotype!
19:03 Fun fact: in Japanese version, Chaud told him "The IQ of 170 isn't something to brag about" implying he has a higher IQ than him. That kinda explains him getting into university at the age of 12 after the event of mmbn6.
Abit of trivia, I believe "speedy dave", is based on ted kacynzsy. The unabomber who had an IQ of 167. This is one of my favorite BN games, I have alot of fond memories grinding for hub style and experimenting with different chips. Lot's of fun! I understand if you don't want to play post-game but please let us know your thoughts on the post-game as well.
8:12 Just like Pokemon. Almost every game has its own "Team Rocket".
THEORY! Arashi was blown out of the Metroline door and was rushed to the hospital and survived!
I started playing Battle Network with the 3rd game in the series, and although I was familiar with the first 2, seeing your commentary on it was not only super entertaining but really informational. Can't wait till you get to the other games, subscribed with notifications on!
OMG I remember the Gator PA in this game was so busted it not only turned the story to a complete cakewalk but on PvP it literally came down to who can click Gator the fastest. Its so good it actually just made the game boring so I switched folders lol.
The past week has been crazy busy for me, so you won’t believe how excited I was to just lay back and watch this for a good hour. Really enjoyed the video and I hope the series continues.
How much do you want to bet that Freezeman's scenario was designed by Speedy Dave during a trip he made to Yumland?
41:12 I was just reminded that Battle Network 2 released in the US only a few months after 9/11
It's amazing how much was improved from the first game to this one. Don't get me wrong, it's still pretty janky and "balance" is a hilarious joke (hello Gater), but it actually feels like this game knows what it wants to do most of the time. Just the fact that the main Internet isn't completely identical is a world of difference.
It says in game that Bug Frags can become junk data and I think the dealers for it are basically rewarding you by giving them the data to dispose it properly in exchange for things like good battle chips.
yeah but that's just a front in this game, as what the bugfrags are actually used for is creating Gospel and the kotobuki dealer works for the organization
@@floricel_112 what do people need BugFrags for after BN2? You tend to see the BugFrag dealers in rather remote and shady places, too. I'm not doubting what you said, just wondering
@@Zmeeed01 BN3 needs bug frags if you want to beat the extra boss. Think of a food source. You can search that on your own but I'll say the extra boss is consistent across the series.
I can't recall what bug frags deal with from 4-6. I think it's honestly just for trading and the relevance is never explained. I'm going off of 8 year old memory however.
@@chaoslordmissingno I've been replaying the MMBN games recently and I have a guess BugFrags can be used as a raw material for the creation of viruses. Both Gospel and Gregar came from them, and there seems to be a connection between the fact that the BugFrag traders like to hang out in shady places, and the fact that the Undernet dwellers like to attack others with viruses for some reason.
Edit: I just remembered that in BN3 you can feed BugFrags to viruses in the breeder in SciLab so that's making even more sense now.
The stronger versions of bosses aren't random encounters, the have specific spots that trigger the fight, it's just an invisible trigger, making it seem random
@@rowdyrobgaming8726 v3s generally can't trigger until you've fought the v2 at least once, thankfully. Star Force makes the kind addition of making the v2/EX versions outright visible on the overworld, an extremely welcome change that probably should have been made sooner.
Battle network 2 was my first battle network game on gba. Loved every moment of it! Easily spent over 40 hours in this game
MMBN3 was a pinnacle game in my childhood, and your videos have given me a chance to really enjoy the series again. Subbed!
At the speedy Dave part of the video I can't tell if you are disappointed, angered, humored or a combination of all three.
I just cought myself on the thought that FreezeMan looks like a Ben 10 alien...
7:45 I was really hoping you used that song, and I'm glad you did
Ya know, now that the Legacy Collection dropped, I'm coming back to re-watch these videos. I just finished BN2 and I'm just glad, for the second to last story arc, I was always jacking in through Ms. Millions bag. That is literally the main shortcut to the undernet and netopia. Saved me 1.5 hrs of backtracking and waking.
54:00 im 24 years old and this part is super cool to me like, everybody showing up like that just makes me smile.
Battle Network 2 was a fine game, and my start to the series after watching a full let’s play on BN1. A solid story with welcomed improvements to the gameplay. But....BN2 definitely had issues with pacing and padding. So much so i had to use plenty of Savestates to get by this game....it didn’t help that I sucked at this game too.....(the ice part of the game was such a drag dude....)
Although, BN2 is good, these problems sorta bring the games down a little bit for me. I personally find 3, 5, and 6 to be the best games in the series, and they also happen to be my favorites.
BN2 is still pretty good though, and i respect it for all the improvements it made.
I find the padding in 3 way worse. I still think Battle network 2 is the best game in the series. It does everything right on top of having by far the best set of bosses in the series and despite 3 noticeable improvements on the game 3’s dungeons are either unmemorable or way too annoying and the change they made to the styles change mechanic in comparison to it’s predecessor bn2 which I found to be awful.
@@Andy-sj4ip Well i never said 3 was perfect. It’s got a lot of issues that i can’t stand sometimes which is why i like 5 and 6 more than it. But i guess i can kinda understand where you’re coming from with the dungeons. The Zoo Area has 4 parts to it (which in that area of that game is way too much.) And the gimmick for the hospital is annoying (the energy change program)
I like 2 just finished playing but the pacing is so annoying to the point I groaned when I got the ice section of the game is like curses you made me dislike Freezeman just because of a bad ice backtracking puzzle.
Gotta love that Airman ga Taosenai reference
"I hate this world! I want to die!" Damn, Capcom forgot this game is for kids
It is important to expose kids to heavier topics. The only cavveat being that you have to do it tactfully and well.
Unfortunately Megaman isn't known for its fantastic and deep writing.
@@haruhirogrimgar6047 only heavy topic I can recall it doing relatively decently was Mamoru, tbh
That's the part that makes you say that? Not Yai saying Lan missed out on seeing her naked? Or Arashi being bombed? Or the literal 9/11 scenario?
@@TheAzulmagia >Yai
what the fuck capcom
@@TheAzulmagia Or Ms. Millions...as a whole...
I was actually working on a review of this game as well, and the Speedy Dave thing made me look into his actual name which was Hayami Daisuke. Hayami apparently means Quick, I was always wondering why he didnt use bombman of all things, I guess its because Bombman shows up for a slight moment in the first game, and they just couldn't reuse the same navi. so they gave this guy a navi based on his name rather than his skills. Also a side note, the ice area really does ruin what was almost a perfect game :/ Also ya ever notice how the main villian of Gospel was on the plane, like what was the plan if Lan failed? He and Gospel would have died right there.
That kid was suicidal
For Willy its a win win.
One thing I do like is that Capcom wasn't timid with the program advances. After all they do require you to run 3 chips who likely are not the best ones you have and often not use chips when you could have and likely also get a couple of frustrating bricks as you just can't get the program advance lined up. Then it also basically transforms 3 chips into 1 so if you miss that one shot that's 3 chips you likely had to work for down the drain.
With all those downsides the payoff should be really good and luckily it is.
Program advance really had the chance to be a completely worthless mechanic and quite a few similar games also have that. That there are very convoluted and difficult to use combinations that are supposedly really powerful but they almost are never worth it. Battlenetwork avoided that trap.
IIRC Sean was on one of the planes. The one Gauss attacked, I think. So yeah, you do see him overseeing one of his operations. He shrugs you off is you talk to him.
Overseeing the plane being crashed by being on said plane. Solid plan.
@@Zehruk I mean, he does want to die...
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I'm happy for that. Because they force you to have sub-optimal battlechips and also not use them until you get them all lined up. Then you also need to memorize the program advance itself and you also can't afford to have it miss or be blocked.
I'm really glad Capcom wasn't timid with the program advances. It's something Konami really struggled with in early Yugioh. You often had a lot of convoluted ways to summon monsters but they were too timid to actually make those monsters powerful enough to be worth the investment.
A program advance usually needs 3 chips and also some other hassle so it needs to be better than 3 good chips are combined.
Your videos are excellent and definitely deserve more views. We share very similar interest (specifically love your Life is Strange, FMA, and FFVII videos)
Your editing is also top notch. Anyway, keep it up. You rock
Still enjoy this 5 years later. Thank you
Okay, Gospel's Leader is one of my favorite villain designs in the games. It's menacing when compared to Dr. Wily and Dr. Regal.
Ah yes, RGB hair, Sean was ahead of his time
Then Darts from yugioh stole it in '04
Too bad it’s so underused
Even though Arashi's boss is a ten-year-old kid, if you look closely at the picture, Professor Oak???!!!
If i'm not mistaking program advances were in the first game, be it that most where you can now spam this one chip within the time limit.
I have watched two of your reviews and plan to watch the others too! I LOVE your sassy commentary! I have played every Megaman game so yea I know them as well :D Love your videos!
"HubStyle isnt worth the effort to obtain"
*Me, who S-ranks every navi in under 10 seconds for the max power SP chips in BN4-6*: What do you mean not worth it, thats easy to do
If you can't do multiplayer, Once you get the style, there's no one left to use it on besides BassDX.
*SOMEONE GOT PAID TO COME UP WITH THIS NAME FOR A COUNTRY WITH GOOD FOOD*
"We can now open the way to *NAME REDACTED*".
It's just a play on Thailand.
I played this game twice and did not know the "Netcastle" thing.
Also I had the guide and the map.for windwaker, so while playing other sections I picked up shards so I never had the issue people had with padding. And even on a recent second playthrough of MMBN2 I still don't mind the padding of the ice since I can just play those sections while watching tv or something.
S p e e d y * D a v e
Why does lan hates school ? Imagine that each class is a basic ass virus busting tutorial, if you can get fed up after 6 games, imagine that everyday
42:21- Maybe because nobody will suspect to search such places for them? That’s entirely possible.
Well, we see how well *that* worked out for them, lmao
This was my first battle network game and still my favorite.
instant sub for that old nico nico douga airman reference
I miss playing this game so much it was the best game ever
Protoman coming out of nowhere to somehow get into Dave's PET: I sleep
"How could 2 kids bea me, future head of Gospel! (IQ 170!): zzzz
SPEEDY DAVE: WHO WROTE THIS!?
I love these games! Keep the reviews going!
4:32 Sometimes I wonder, if Lan became an Official in BN2, then why does Proto Man/Colonel test him in BN5 and then in BN6 completely loses his status.
P.S. Why is Mega Man's stats reset in every game, his health is reset every game, and he loses all of his chips in every game?
Seriously though. The ONLY game the stat reset makes sense is between 3 and 4 because Mega Man died, and that still doesn’t address the loss of Lan’s endgame chip loadout
@@kaimcdragonfist4803 actually, the only game where it DOESN'T make sense is 2. Cause in every other game, Lan changes PET models from game to game, so it's likely his old chips aren't compatible with the new PET hardware(this is very noticeable in 4 where the chip selection is radically different form 3's) and newer models likely also lack backwards compatibility as a failsafe(as terrorists and criminals also arm themselves with PETs and in the newer games, the advent of the illegal Dark Chips may inspire a huge security overhaul)
@@jouheikisaragi6075 I guess that's true.
But why is Lan not an official in 3, 4, and 6????
@@susamogus12345 He's ten and nearly dies every time he does something
17:03 you can honestly boil down the conversation to this:
LAN: I think YOU planted the bombs!
Dave: no I didn’t!
LAN: yes you did!
Dave: alright, you got me. I planted the bombs because I’m an ecoterrorist! If you’re looking for the last detonator, look no further! It’s in my backpack! All you need to do is jack in, destroy my Navi, and disarm all the bombs! Come at me!
LAN: you got it!
42:17 I love the maniacal wormhole he starts going down there 😂
if you play six, make sure to use the content restoration mod, 4 is much more tolerable with the VC patch, 5 i recomend playing either the VC patch or the DS port.
I legit love this. Keep up the good work I really hope you cover the release on the switch
I need the rest of the games asapppppp. Thank you for doing this.
I wonder how many people over the years have played Battle Network 2 after having previously played Classic Megaman 2, encountered Airman.EXE and had Vietnam flashbacks.
"Oh that!" Arashi said calmly.
At least in I think Battle Network 3 onwards there is a trigger location for Boss Ghost Data rematches before they start being random encounters so if you feel you aren't ready yet you can just avoid those locations. On a blind playthough though you'd never know where this location is.
Shadowman: Hmm...Well, these gospel music fans or something...
Me: Excuse me, What?
Lan’s name wasn’t changed for no reason. It was changed because it now translates to lan light which is the LED on your Ethernet port that tells your network connection status. If the Japanese call that a net light then it’s localization and not translation, if they don’t then it’s just a much better name altogether.
My favourite childhood game. I think it took me over a year to complete. being 6 years old, not speaking English, and not having internet to help me. And with complete I mean beating the main boss. I couldn't get past the second WWW area. Good times.
Good thing you didn't try the sub plot with Bass/Forte and complete deck. Took me over 6 months to do that, and Bass V3 took at least half that time. Fuck that Aura!!!!!
Let's take a moment to talk about how POORLY-PLANNED FreezeMan.EXE's fight was (credit to RoahmMythril's LP). So, you have a boss that is Aqua element. Already you have 2x damage from Electric. Ice panels are Aqua element. Electric does 2x to anything on those tiles. This means the boss takes QUADRUPLE DAMAGE from Electrcity attacks. That 1k of health won't last long..
Personally I think it was intentional because I think some dev at Capcom realized "Okay playtests have shown that this ice thing was no where near as fun in practice so let's give the boss at the end an easy to cheese weakness to make up for that and give the player some much needed catharsis"
Love the format and the video. Thanks for making it
Actually, you CAN get the fast travel throughout the regular playthrough of the game. It's just available to specific NPC after certain scenarios. The problem is the game never hints at this whatsoever. You have to actively backtrack and choose to talk to random NPCs and hopefully stumble into them. I recall one fast travel option is unlocked after Quickman's scenario at the camp site as a reward for stopping the bomber, and another in Netopia square but I forgot when.
21:00 Vietnam Flashbacks to losing A LOT of progress to a random Quickman encounter
The best era in gaming imo, reuse engine, assets, characters and the likes, focus on the gameplay experience and story. Release games faster, more cost effective and create amazing games.
I might be biased though since Battle Network 2 and TLoZ Majoras Mask are one of my all time favorite games
Capcom still does that, with the resident evil 3 remake as well as some assets like animations being reused from sf5 for some marvel mobile game
Did you play spider man 2, Cod, TOTK,ext the industry still does this.
thank you for making reviews/story recap videos for mbn games. i cant play some of them anymore for playing the older games takes too much of my time and patience except for mbn6 because its easier for me than the older titles. thanks again