You two don't understand how much we appreciate your honesty and we really enjoy the content. I love it my dudes! This community is such a great place. I would ride with anyone here and share a glass of bourbon with em too.
Wolfman says Yay to the bourbon and let him know when you are down to drink!! Now the community is great for sure and we are glad you are apart of it my man. Thanks
I definitely think it would be a good idea to run all the shocks on the ledge with back to back laps since different linkage and bike geometry will make it feel different
It would be if we were doing a real side by side type comparison, but this was just to give our views and opinions with limited experience. We will probably never try to do much more with rear shocks, mainly because it's not our cup of tea.
Been running a Box 4 since the beginning of 2020, only annoyance is getting the wheel on and off as the clutch is strong and doesn't switch off. The shifting is super smooth.
I just installed the same 2 days ago. Upgraded from stock MicroShift 23 then to Shimano Altus then literally 2 days after installing the Shimano groupset my LBS convinced me to go with the Box 4 groupset instead, lol. So far so good, adjusting the back derailleur was a PITA because of the clutch but overall I like it. Nice smooth solid shifting.
Specialized makes some great bang for the buck tires. They had a clearance recently, they were under $20 each. Even at retail of $65, they are great imo. also i just finished boxing up the frame!
When you told me about the specialized tire sale i didnt even look cause im thinking like oem tires or something! Those tires they got look really good!
WOW great video..don't know what to say everyone sent in some super nice gifts to the channel!! Those tires your not slipping anymore!!! I have those carbon fiber spacers I used them on my ledge they are nice lots of sizes in the pack.. Have FUN with all the goodies!!
Lol will do, there seemed to be a bunch of different sizes, apparently Kevin sent those as well. Thank you as always PH, those tires look SUPER SWEET!!
I’ve had the DNM for over 3 years, almost 4. It was around $70 when I got it though. Now I did have to cut down the hardware and ghetto press-fit the bushings, but it has been running strong ever since. It holds air forever too. I’ve taken it to lift access bike parks and accidentally on a couple black diamonds lol, great bang for your buck
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS here in Southern California one of our Ski Resorts does Mountain Biking during the off-season (Snow Summit Bike Park) and the trail system has a LOT of trail merges and I 100% got lost LOL. Found myself on some crazy wooden features and extremely sharp switchbacks and steep descents but it was a great time 😂. Rocking a well-used Suntour XCR up front; it’s now my loaner bike
I bought the cheaper discontinue AO42AR, and that thing can''t hold air for the life of it. After about a half hour moderately bumpy ride, it loses about 15-20 PSI. And it wasn't due to the air pump equalizing the pressure between it and the shock. It's still on my bike, but I'm seriously considering a refund, and maybe going for a Rockshox Monarch R.
Will be interesting to see which handles the big impacts the best. I have the DNM and am happy with it, (it did take a while to adjust but is really nice now and holding up to a 250lb rider) but on my other bike I have the Raidon with the rebound and single chamber and is not as plush but a bit more poppy.
Two thumbs up on this video. Almost makes me wish I needed new rear shocks on my 2 FS bikes. It takes me at least 2 rides to dial in suspension on those bikes.
Im wanting to try the EXA RL. Im currently using DNM 38RC for 3 weeks now and it is fine as hell. Been doing 10ft drops, jumps and rock gardens with it and it doesnt leak air or oil. One minor improvement they can do is to have compression damper selection. Hope they last me long enough until I have the budget for a Monarch.
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS im quite intrigued when you described the EXA RL how plush it is. DNM is already plush as is, and Im running it with zero sag. I wanted to see how EXA RL is better at floating over the rocks
This was so sick the nation comes through again with everyone’s favorite mail time 💪🏾💯 another great one guys can’t wait to see what you got coming up in the next one
I bought the Sun tour Raidon cause I have not seen a bad review on them anywhere. Saw reviews on the others… sounds too good to be true … then they all blew… suntours serviceable too.
A good point is to start at the reccomended pressures, and in lease or decrease main pressure until it feels better, reduce or increase both, u til sag point and big hits feel better, until you feel its getting closer, if it feels too harsh decrease pressure in negative chamber, test rid eit tweak some more, you might end up running it below reccomend pressure or or have closer or further away from the reccomended on one or both. You just have to test for your self. Different bike, different rider. It does not take too much time to adjust it if you do it the right way. Adjusting and test rides same trail over and iver adjust ride anjust, test and so on. I would go for the shock with two air chambers. No question about it, u less it's a high end shock where it's not needed due to other tech. But for a air shock like this I would go for DNM, unless their tolerances and quality is bad. But I don't know about that. But a low budget shock with positive and negative chamber is rare, even a high end.
Hey I hear you. I can't stand when a channel I like does that. We don't sacrifice anything that would have been on our RUclips channel, so don't worry. We don't plan on putting $500 dollar forks or $2500 ish builds on our channel anytime soon, so you aren't missing out. We work extremely hard on our channel to bring y'all content on a regular basis and that's not going to change, but we also enjoy the close interactions with our Patrons as well. Thanks for watching👍
It's Christmas in February! Nice channel donations! I will be getting the ExaForm 588 once we recover from Christmas spending on family. Good comparison review!
Great breakdown of entry level shocks. I'm curious how the entry level X-Fusion shocks stack up against these. Similar price point and you see them stock on lower end big name mtbs.
Awesome explanation of the rear shocks, they get confusing. I just run mine however Chris set it up for me and it's awesome. Very cool mail time, those jerseys are super rad and the tires look killer. You guys already know how I feel about Box drivetrains, I think they're absolute dog crap. The set screws on the Box groupset that I bought went into plastic so as soon as I tried to adjust it, it immediately stripped out. I'm really looking forward to the release of the Tektro ED9 budget groupset and as soon as I can get get my hands on one then you guys will too. Keep shredding that shxt 😁🤙
Thanks man, we are not professionals by any means! Now I think we all need a CHRIS that sets up our bikes! Based on his bike shop you showed on the channel that guy may know what he is talking about!🤣 Man thanks for an awesome Payreon Mailtime and the build is gonna be sweet, also Tekto huh??? Later BERSERKER NICK!!! SHRED THAT 💩
I'm over 50, "...Farley". I don't own a full suspension bike & probably won't for years (Just got a no suspension Dolomite ALX). Still watching for the meat & potato & giving the 👍. Some bike(s) will be getting a lot of nice bling thanks to Kevin H. Can't wait to see what you do with that bling.
Man 🤣🤣 You cannot be over 50! Your comments are way too 😎 LOL Now we always appreciate the thumbs up brother, so thank you and yes Kevin knocked it out of the park!!
I think if you rode chunkier stuff over a longer ride, you'd appreciate the full squish! Plus, you are still young and fit. Now you can see where I don't need to know all about parts because I have Kevin, who loves to research, to keep my bikes going smoothly! BTW, the shock on my Orbea is upside down (installed from factory).
Yeah you may have a point, but maybe when I am in my 60s??😝😝😝 And completely understand when you explained Kevin orders everything for you!! Gotta get him ordering parts for all our BUILDS!!
I've got an X fusion rear shock on Mongoose Salvo , and I've had quite a few people who ride More expensive bikes really like the feel of it on the rear
I've ridden DNM shocks for a bit and never had an issue. Unfortunately, my current bike needs a 210x55 or a 216x57 (?).... DNM doesn't seem to make an air shock for this so I went with the coil DNM RCP-2S instead... No lockout, but it's been phenomenal on my Ican P9. As always, wonderfully informative video gents! Can't wait for the next one.
You still got that affiliate link to the ebike hydraulics? I gotta replace my brakes... not sure if I'm just gonna replace the pads or do an upgrade yet though...
Is the Easter Egg the fork next to the shoot out board? Looks different. I haven't watched the Patreon video yet so it's my unedumacated guess. I like that you were able to give your likes and dislikes between each of the rear shocks. Would be interested in seeing you do this with other gear. Maybe Wolfman can do an egg pan segment where he breaks down each egg pan??🤣🤣🤣
I thought Christmas is in December, not in February :O that's a nice mail time segment. and plenty of content to come. keep up with the great work guys!
first came epic mealtime, then came epic mailtime! the polygon build that i did for my 13 year old has the same funn bars, stem and grips. they are very nice.
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS Haha! Great stuff. In my limited experience Funn sells great stuff. I have a set of their Fantom hubs on a wheelset. Very good quality, and so many points of engagement.
Man I've been eyeing those fun bars for awhile I love the colors they have. Also if you havent her you need to get some funn hilt grips! They are super cheap and pretty thin
I have a butcher front tire on my 27.5 haro. I love it. Got rid of the front end wash out feeling I was getting. I would rather back tire slide any day over the front. You will like that Bucher as a front tire for sure.
🙏 Thanks brother, glad to hear it. Now we just installed the set on the Patreon build and cannot wait to ride!! But inagree with rear as opposed to the front
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS hopefully you guys do what others do and release the patreon videos to everyone else at a later date. That way your regular viewers can see it as well eventually.
@kenny graves unfortunately we won't ever release most of the Patreon videos because they don't fit our RUclips platform. We do take some footage from it every so often, but most of it is not for the "normal" viewer😁. The footage is mainly made up of our unedited bickering and other kinds of daily life type stuff. We are thinking about setting up a studio and starting to do some podcast on our Patreon as well at some point. I completely understand if you aren't into the whole Patreon thing, it's certainly not ever going to be for everyone, but we needed another outlet for the people that like watching our interactions. Your support is appreciated and hopefully our RUclips content will be enough to fulfill all of your Wolftick needs😉🤣. Thanks buddy🥰
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS I honestly love the bickering. I just got bills to pay. If I had the extra funds I would totally buy you some coffee. Might have to send you my favorite actual coffee one of these days and maybe pick up some merch.
Raxman you are the man man! 🤣 The jerseys and everything you send are so much appreciated brother. The jerseys fit perfect and man I will be styling for sure!! We will see you on the patreon and here man, thank you for everything. Also check them patreon messages once in a blue moon😉
DNM AOY-36RC: This is the budget air shock by default . I swear by mine . This thing is 5 years old and not a single hiccup . I set mine by the booklet and I haven't had any problems , DNM also makes air forks .
Do any of these levers switch on their own while riding? I had that issue with Fox Trek DRCV CTD, but some people told me newer models of fox forks won't have that issue.
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS I don't have any Fox forks anymore, but Grip damper did this too, on rough trails and bunny hops, the dial shifted to almost locked, which is dangerous. I had to ziptie it too. but the CTD shock did switched from decent mode to trial mode when hitting curbs. My bike current bike has EXT Storia lol V3 coil shock, Era fork. No issues with those. But the fox 36 factory grip 2 had firm dial ths twas secure, the one Era is secure but easier to turn.
Would love to see you try the DNM in the Ledge for purely selfish reasons, it is what I went with in my Ledge and would like to hear how you think it compares to the EXA, the DNM was the only in stock budget option available when I did my build :-)
For the dnm shock with dual valves, sayif I need 90 psi for the main chamber and 50 for the negative, do you set the negative when the shock is fully compressed to get 50psi or do you set it to 50psi without it being compressed of do I set it to be 50psi when I'm sitting on the bike? I never understood it since it has top out if I do it in it's normal uncompressed position, but also feels wallow if its set when the shock is fully compressed, then aired back up when I set the positive chamber? Shouldn't I set it to 90psi same as the positive air chamber to keep it equalized?
I bought a DNM rear shock once to go on my wife's bike and ended up selling it to someone else. I did not like dealing with the positive and negative chambers. It overcomplicated it way too much. If you look at the "name brand" shocks like Fox and RockShox I don't know of any current models that you use a positive and negative chamber. I've mentioned this in the comments before but I would not skimp on a rear shock. It's just one of those things that if you're going to do it then it's worth spending the extra on. I have a RoxkShox Monarch on my XR Pro, and it's been well worth the $230 or $240 I paid.
I hear you on the positive and negative chamber deal for sure. As far as the way you feel on spending money for a better rear shock, everyone has something like that where they draw the line. We have had several people say things like, "if you aren't going to get a more expensive bike, why bother riding". The way we feel is if you don't have the money for the more expensive stuff, then get what you are comfortable with. By no means should people go into debt for this sport/hobby when there is so much budget stuff to play with. It's way more fun to be under biked, excited, and debt free than to be over biked, bored, and in debt. Obviously this applies to the bike as a whole and not just a rear shock. Thanks man👍
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS well said. I know a lot of people would say, in the case with my bike, why put a $240 shock on a $400 bike? But I thought it was a worthy upgrade, and it's turned out to be just that. I had a friend that also had an XR Pro, and he went with the Suntour Raidon shock, and he liked it pretty well. I don't know if my DNM shock was defective or not, but it didn't seem to hold air. The lockout did not prevent movement like my RockShox. Although to be fair it was on my wife's Mongoose Bedlam that is the old "Y frame" design, and I have read that is a very inefficient rear suspension design. Also, the DNM did not come with a shock pump, of course. But my RockShox pump would not work on it. I don't know if it used a different thread or not. I had to use an air compressor to put air in it (which I've read not to do). And I don't know if I had any way of checking the air pressure in it. Of the 3 you tested I'd probably go for the Suntour for simplicity alone.
I had the dnm AO-42R and I switched to the AOY-36RC like the one in the video and I like the extra features the new one I have has, but it doesn't feel as plush as my old one. I tried adjusting the pressure for my weight and same with the negative chamber, but it just feels firm even with rebound set. I just want to know which one may be better at absorbing small and bigger bumps better, I really hate having the placebo effect in this scenario 😂😅
this is so damn crazy, first you guys get the Satori deviant 2 handlebars which I got right before your video, then you guys get a Box 3 groupset and I literally just installed a Box 4 groupset on my GT Aggressor Pro a couple days ago, lol, great minds think alike. I'm really interested to see how you like that Box 3 groupset because so far I'm liking the Box 4. Oh also installed a Wolf Tooth 1x chainring and just got some RaceFace Chester pedals which I'll get tomorrow. Now I just gotta get a new wheelset (I still plan on using the affiliate links you sent me, and upgrade my front fork (although still rocking and loving the LUTU fork)
I felt like when I watched the real time Exa form vid, you only seemed to like it on the big but in this vid you seem to like it more all round. Is it that it needed some time to break in or you were able to dial it in better? I'm the same height and weight as you but just ordered the Exa Form.
I think we have had time to really dial in air pressures and other adjustments, plus a little more time to break in don't hurt either. All three are decent, but not having too much experience with rear shocks definitely made it a bit of a learning curve to overcome. We still stand behind most of the stuff said in the original Realtime Review but we definitely feel like if we do any more rear shock reviews we will be better equipped for it. You really can't go wrong with any of these in a upgrade over stock on budget bikes atleast.
I'm glad I ride a hardtail, those rear shocks are a minefield 😯, very confusing! You guys make these things so much easier for us normos to understand. The Hodges have pretty much an entire bike! You lucky boys! Looking forward to seeing how it all performs. Great mail time and great video as always gents. Take care 🍺😎👍
Rear shock comparison and settings will be very difficult to review/judge unless you consistently do them on the same bike. The angles and lengths of the links will change the dynamics. The travel of the shock typically will not be the same travel as the rear wheel. Forks have a 1 to 1 ratio of travel compared to the wheel. But, how ever you review them, it will be informative and entertaining.
Hi great mail time loving the look of the funn bars very nice will be keeping an eye on the stem as well to see what you think wolf dad going to look cool in his fox top great video again 👍
Do you guys have any experience with the hydraulic shocks? I know tgey aren't as good as air, but are the better than the cheapie coil shocks that come on lower end bikes?
It's actually old technology. SID with The Brain also. FOX has their version out if you can find one. It's like a spring loaded shaker in the secondary canister. It seems to work well. But it doesn't work well in 15f weather. Neither does the KS dropper post I have. I'm surprised that the Alivio brakes work well still in the cold (MT 200) . It's been hell around here because of the Canadian Bridge blockade. The government has blocked all the streets going accross the road the bridge is on.
All these shoxs are copies from the expensive fox and other makes, china is very good in copying cause all American and other shoxs companies are made in Taiwan cmon men love the dnm aoy-36rc,love all that tuning,hope they make replacement air can bearings and seals after 50hrs tuneup and 200hrs damper oil change,lets go brandon
I have a wonderful vintage (2003) made in America fs xc bike, very frustrating because Fox and Cane Creek don't make 195mm eye-to-eye rear air shocks for it anymore.
Talking about idiots talking about stuff that don't know what they're talking about... I bought some used thru axle wheels this past weekend. After a long email chain with a company in Taiwan, I have decided that it is not very budget friendly to replace all the bearings and get the QR conversion kit for those hubs. I will be purchasing a set of Koozer hubs off Amazon and teaching myself the art of wheel building. It'd be awesome to see you guys give it a try too! It would definitely be a challenge and the Wolfman would probably need several dad sodas to get through. As I probably will too haha
Well Travis that's all you man!! Nah but really I would love to get a setup that is budget and teach myself as well like. I'll tell you what man, if you don't mind. If and when you figure out all the stuff you need for the job, let me know and I would love to try. Thanks man and may wanna drink before hand as well!!😉😉Later Travis
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You two don't understand how much we appreciate your honesty and we really enjoy the content. I love it my dudes! This community is such a great place. I would ride with anyone here and share a glass of bourbon with em too.
Wolfman says Yay to the bourbon and let him know when you are down to drink!! Now the community is great for sure and we are glad you are apart of it my man. Thanks
I definitely think it would be a good idea to run all the shocks on the ledge with back to back laps since different linkage and bike geometry will make it feel different
It would be if we were doing a real side by side type comparison, but this was just to give our views and opinions with limited experience. We will probably never try to do much more with rear shocks, mainly because it's not our cup of tea.
Life is good when you wake up and you have a wolftick video to watch
Man we feel the same way!!🤣 Thanks brother
I like my DNM. I'm a heavy guy and it hasn't failed or lost any air so far.
The DNM seems pretty good for the money so far.
Been running a Box 4 since the beginning of 2020, only annoyance is getting the wheel on and off as the clutch is strong and doesn't switch off. The shifting is super smooth.
I just installed the same 2 days ago. Upgraded from stock MicroShift 23 then to Shimano Altus then literally 2 days after installing the Shimano groupset my LBS convinced me to go with the Box 4 groupset instead, lol. So far so good, adjusting the back derailleur was a PITA because of the clutch but overall I like it. Nice smooth solid shifting.
Lol Seems like Non legit nation has a few problems with the clutch too! But better than non clutched!!
Specialized makes some great bang for the buck tires. They had a clearance recently, they were under $20 each. Even at retail of $65, they are great imo. also i just finished boxing up the frame!
When you told me about the specialized tire sale i didnt even look cause im thinking like oem tires or something! Those tires they got look really good!
Awesome man! Email us so we can discuss the transaction.
WOW great video..don't know what to say everyone sent in some super nice gifts to the channel!! Those tires your not slipping anymore!!! I have those carbon fiber spacers I used them on my ledge they are nice lots of sizes in the pack.. Have FUN with all the goodies!!
Lol will do, there seemed to be a bunch of different sizes, apparently Kevin sent those as well. Thank you as always PH, those tires look SUPER SWEET!!
I’m running the Butcher up front and the Eliminator in the back as well, and frickin love em so far! They grip like crazy!
DAMN THAYS GREAT TO KNOW!! Thanks for the comment man, that's crazy 😳😳
I’ve had the DNM for over 3 years, almost 4. It was around $70 when I got it though. Now I did have to cut down the hardware and ghetto press-fit the bushings, but it has been running strong ever since. It holds air forever too. I’ve taken it to lift access bike parks and accidentally on a couple black diamonds lol, great bang for your buck
🤣Accidental BLACK DIAMOND!!! LOL Man glad it handled it!!
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS here in Southern California one of our Ski Resorts does Mountain Biking during the off-season (Snow Summit Bike Park) and the trail system has a LOT of trail merges and I 100% got lost LOL. Found myself on some crazy wooden features and extremely sharp switchbacks and steep descents but it was a great time 😂. Rocking a well-used Suntour XCR up front; it’s now my loaner bike
I bought the cheaper discontinue AO42AR, and that thing can''t hold air for the life of it. After about a half hour moderately bumpy ride, it loses about 15-20 PSI. And it wasn't due to the air pump equalizing the pressure between it and the shock. It's still on my bike, but I'm seriously considering a refund, and maybe going for a Rockshox Monarch R.
Will be interesting to see which handles the big impacts the best. I have the DNM and am happy with it, (it did take a while to adjust but is really nice now and holding up to a 250lb rider) but on my other bike I have the Raidon with the rebound and single chamber and is not as plush but a bit more poppy.
Sounds very similar to our experiences. Thanks for helping confirm our findings.👍
Can you tell me your psi settings for a 250lbs rider. Thanks!!
We’re just here to listen to two idiots 😆😆 super cool video guys we hope you had a wonderful Valentine’s Day and oh yeah chuck you😆😆
Chuck you as well!! LOL Much love and hope your Valentines day was a good one as well brother.
Two thumbs up on this video. Almost makes me wish I needed new rear shocks on my 2 FS bikes. It takes me at least 2 rides to dial in suspension on those bikes.
🤣🤣 So happy to read this comment, that means our opinions were valid and fair. Thanks Man
Im wanting to try the EXA RL. Im currently using DNM 38RC for 3 weeks now and it is fine as hell. Been doing 10ft drops, jumps and rock gardens with it and it doesnt leak air or oil. One minor improvement they can do is to have compression damper selection. Hope they last me long enough until I have the budget for a Monarch.
Dude just get you another DNM, especially since you know it so well!! Nothing wrong with that option!! 👌
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS im quite intrigued when you described the EXA RL how plush it is. DNM is already plush as is, and Im running it with zero sag. I wanted to see how EXA RL is better at floating over the rocks
This was so sick the nation comes through again with everyone’s favorite mail time 💪🏾💯 another great one guys can’t wait to see what you got coming up in the next one
Man the Nation strikes again!! LOL We will see ya tomorrow for the Box Three Prime 9 INSTALL!! Later brother😉
I bought the Sun tour Raidon cause I have not seen a bad review on them anywhere. Saw reviews on the others… sounds too good to be true … then they all blew… suntours serviceable too.
Man it seems simple and tough!!
A good point is to start at the reccomended pressures, and in lease or decrease main pressure until it feels better, reduce or increase both, u til sag point and big hits feel better, until you feel its getting closer, if it feels too harsh decrease pressure in negative chamber, test rid eit tweak some more, you might end up running it below reccomend pressure or or have closer or further away from the reccomended on one or both.
You just have to test for your self. Different bike, different rider.
It does not take too much time to adjust it if you do it the right way.
Adjusting and test rides same trail over and iver adjust ride anjust, test and so on.
I would go for the shock with two air chambers. No question about it, u less it's a high end shock where it's not needed due to other tech. But for a air shock like this I would go for DNM, unless their tolerances and quality is bad. But I don't know about that. But a low budget shock with positive and negative chamber is rare, even a high end.
You just explained trial and error🤘🤘🤘
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS yea. First I set the base pressures, and rebound, Then I try other things.
Wow! What a mail time haul that was 😳🍻. Great video boys can’t wait to see all the upgrade videos.
Thanks Fernando, we have a great and totally involved community. 👍
Good info on the shocks. Great mailtime too, give you more stuff to test!
Heck yeah man, it's funny every mailtime we have I always for some weird reason think of you!! Not white boards or math, just mailtime!!!🤣🤣
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS well atleast you havnt forgotten me!
Hardtail for life 👍🏻💪🏻✊🏻
😂👍👍🤘
Ya start doing this only patrons thing ima bounce out of here
Hey I hear you. I can't stand when a channel I like does that. We don't sacrifice anything that would have been on our RUclips channel, so don't worry. We don't plan on putting $500 dollar forks or $2500 ish builds on our channel anytime soon, so you aren't missing out. We work extremely hard on our channel to bring y'all content on a regular basis and that's not going to change, but we also enjoy the close interactions with our Patrons as well. Thanks for watching👍
It's Christmas in February! Nice channel donations! I will be getting the ExaForm 588 once we recover from Christmas spending on family. Good comparison review!
Hell yeah man!! Thanks for watching and pickup a side job!!🤣🤣🤣
Can you get service kits for these shocks and forks?
They seem like great upgrades for the budget end of the market but how is longevity?
OK so heard the suntour has a cheap rebuild kit. And for the forks not too sure??
Great breakdown of entry level shocks. I'm curious how the entry level X-Fusion shocks stack up against these. Similar price point and you see them stock on lower end big name mtbs.
Thanks David, thought we did a descent job as well!🤣 Who knows maybe we will order one when we upgrade the Hyper...
I run a x-fusion o2 rl and I really like it. I have had it about a year and have put throw hell and it still working like new
Awesome explanation of the rear shocks, they get confusing. I just run mine however Chris set it up for me and it's awesome. Very cool mail time, those jerseys are super rad and the tires look killer. You guys already know how I feel about Box drivetrains, I think they're absolute dog crap. The set screws on the Box groupset that I bought went into plastic so as soon as I tried to adjust it, it immediately stripped out. I'm really looking forward to the release of the Tektro ED9 budget groupset and as soon as I can get get my hands on one then you guys will too. Keep shredding that shxt 😁🤙
Thanks man, we are not professionals by any means! Now I think we all need a CHRIS that sets up our bikes! Based on his bike shop you showed on the channel that guy may know what he is talking about!🤣 Man thanks for an awesome Payreon Mailtime and the build is gonna be sweet, also Tekto huh??? Later BERSERKER NICK!!! SHRED THAT 💩
I have those rockbros pedals in purple. They are smooth.
Looking forward to using them. Thanks👍
Rear shocks are pretty complex, I have some rockshox one that feels pretty good, it’s definitely weird to get used too though
It really is hard to get used to a jumpy rear end!! Glad I am not the only one👍👍
I'm over 50, "...Farley". I don't own a full suspension bike & probably won't for years (Just got a no suspension Dolomite ALX). Still watching for the meat & potato & giving the 👍. Some bike(s) will be getting a lot of nice bling thanks to Kevin H. Can't wait to see what you do with that bling.
Man 🤣🤣 You cannot be over 50! Your comments are way too 😎 LOL Now we always appreciate the thumbs up brother, so thank you and yes Kevin knocked it out of the park!!
I think if you rode chunkier stuff over a longer ride, you'd appreciate the full squish! Plus, you are still young and fit. Now you can see where I don't need to know all about parts because I have Kevin, who loves to research, to keep my bikes going smoothly! BTW, the shock on my Orbea is upside down (installed from factory).
Yeah you may have a point, but maybe when I am in my 60s??😝😝😝 And completely understand when you explained Kevin orders everything for you!! Gotta get him ordering parts for all our BUILDS!!
I've got an X fusion rear shock on Mongoose Salvo , and I've had quite a few people who ride More expensive bikes really like the feel of it on the rear
Man we heard nothing hut good things with x fusion. If we start building our hyper full squish we may just go that route. Thanks man
I've ridden DNM shocks for a bit and never had an issue. Unfortunately, my current bike needs a 210x55 or a 216x57 (?).... DNM doesn't seem to make an air shock for this so I went with the coil DNM RCP-2S instead... No lockout, but it's been phenomenal on my Ican P9. As always, wonderfully informative video gents! Can't wait for the next one.
Wow Adam, thanks for the comment. That is a weird size indeed, but glad the dnm is phenomenal
I got the exaform 588rl recently and it is a world of difference over the cheap coil shock my bike came with.
Hell yeah man, it is a big difference!! I bet it feels like butter now 😋
Those are the tires I sent you guys the links to in my email! My little brother is running a butcher set!
😂🤣🤣 Did not even realize!!!
You still got that affiliate link to the ebike hydraulics? I gotta replace my brakes... not sure if I'm just gonna replace the pads or do an upgrade yet though...
Hey brother check these out. These look like something we would try. amzn.to/3sMZXLi
Is the Easter Egg the fork next to the shoot out board? Looks different. I haven't watched the Patreon video yet so it's my unedumacated guess.
I like that you were able to give your likes and dislikes between each of the rear shocks. Would be interested in seeing you do this with other gear. Maybe Wolfman can do an egg pan segment where he breaks down each egg pan??🤣🤣🤣
The egg pan may be a touche subject!!
@@brandihodges9548 it might be
We don't discuss the egg pan🤬.🤣
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS lol, I got me one of those little bitty egg pans.
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS 😄
I thought Christmas is in December, not in February :O that's a nice mail time segment. and plenty of content to come. keep up with the great work guys!
Thank you brother, we will see you Friday with a hopeful Box Install!!
Everyone says they love hard tails. But at night they're all about those soft tails.....
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first came epic mealtime, then came epic mailtime! the polygon build that i did for my 13 year old has the same funn bars, stem and grips. they are very nice.
Love the comment!!🤣🤣 Thanks Jamie, also we have heard the grips are sweet too. May need to order👍👍
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS The Funn grips are thin which i think that you like.
20:20 nice, box components
My Box 4 has done well. Wish you could turn the clutch off though.
👍👍 Man first ever!!
"But wait..." yep there is more Funn to be had! Great mail time!
🤣 The FUNN has just begun!!
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS Haha! Great stuff. In my limited experience Funn sells great stuff. I have a set of their Fantom hubs on a wheelset. Very good quality, and so many points of engagement.
Man I've been eyeing those fun bars for awhile I love the colors they have. Also if you havent her you need to get some funn hilt grips! They are super cheap and pretty thin
Man they look sweet, also we have heard of the grips.....Worth a look
I have a butcher front tire on my 27.5 haro. I love it. Got rid of the front end wash out feeling I was getting. I would rather back tire slide any day over the front. You will like that Bucher as a front tire for sure.
🙏 Thanks brother, glad to hear it. Now we just installed the set on the Patreon build and cannot wait to ride!! But inagree with rear as opposed to the front
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS hopefully you guys do what others do and release the patreon videos to everyone else at a later date. That way your regular viewers can see it as well eventually.
@kenny graves unfortunately we won't ever release most of the Patreon videos because they don't fit our RUclips platform. We do take some footage from it every so often, but most of it is not for the "normal" viewer😁. The footage is mainly made up of our unedited bickering and other kinds of daily life type stuff. We are thinking about setting up a studio and starting to do some podcast on our Patreon as well at some point. I completely understand if you aren't into the whole Patreon thing, it's certainly not ever going to be for everyone, but we needed another outlet for the people that like watching our interactions. Your support is appreciated and hopefully our RUclips content will be enough to fulfill all of your Wolftick needs😉🤣.
Thanks buddy🥰
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS I honestly love the bickering. I just got bills to pay. If I had the extra funds I would totally buy you some coffee. Might have to send you my favorite actual coffee one of these days and maybe pick up some merch.
Still watching even though I have a hardtail lol. Do you guys think you would ever try out any budget rigid forks?
Man probably not??? Unless we use one on the fatt tire...MAYBE....I don't want to say no but I love a good suspension fork....
Sounded like you guys will enjoy the jerseys lol. Got to have you guys riding in style😬😬 Thanks again for all of the great vids👍🏻👍🏻
Raxman you are the man man! 🤣 The jerseys and everything you send are so much appreciated brother. The jerseys fit perfect and man I will be styling for sure!! We will see you on the patreon and here man, thank you for everything. Also check them patreon messages once in a blue moon😉
DNM AOY-36RC: This is the budget air shock by default . I swear by mine . This thing is 5 years old and not a single hiccup . I set mine by the booklet and I haven't had any problems , DNM also makes air forks .
Got the DNM on the ledge at the moment, such a nice shock. Also got a new one coming!!!
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS You should try their air forks .
Do any of these levers switch on their own while riding? I had that issue with Fox Trek DRCV CTD, but some people told me newer models of fox forks won't have that issue.
Man we have not had that problem, hope your fox forks do not do this. That would be terrible!!
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS I don't have any Fox forks anymore, but Grip damper did this too, on rough trails and bunny hops, the dial shifted to almost locked, which is dangerous. I had to ziptie it too. but the CTD shock did switched from decent mode to trial mode when hitting curbs. My bike current bike has EXT Storia lol V3 coil shock, Era fork. No issues with those.
But the fox 36 factory grip 2 had firm dial ths twas secure, the one Era is secure but easier to turn.
I had that problem with a set of fox 34s, not fun
So, after Mailtime you can say you have a "Funn Cockpit"
Always had one!! Now it's just official!
I 've got a DNM on my Ledge X2 that doesn't have lockout and was less than $80 at the time I bought it but is up to $90 now. Keep on clucking guys!
Pock Poco BACKOCK!! Will do old man, appreciate ya as always🤘
19:02 those look like crankbrother stamp or one up pedals
They do look alot like the one up pedals that we used in the pedal shoot out.
Would love to see you try the DNM in the Ledge for purely selfish reasons, it is what I went with in my Ledge and would like to hear how you think it compares to the EXA, the DNM was the only in stock budget option available when I did my build :-)
Man it's what we will be riding on next time. When you see the ledge i will be sure to mention it👍
I’m looking to update my forks on the Schwann traxion mountain bike
For the dnm shock with dual valves, sayif I need 90 psi for the main chamber and 50 for the negative, do you set the negative when the shock is fully compressed to get 50psi or do you set it to 50psi without it being compressed of do I set it to be 50psi when I'm sitting on the bike? I never understood it since it has top out if I do it in it's normal uncompressed position, but also feels wallow if its set when the shock is fully compressed, then aired back up when I set the positive chamber? Shouldn't I set it to 90psi same as the positive air chamber to keep it equalized?
Hey brother, do them separately, no need to compress. The positive will act as a preload for the negative air chamber. Adjust within 2psi at a time
I bought a DNM rear shock once to go on my wife's bike and ended up selling it to someone else. I did not like dealing with the positive and negative chambers. It overcomplicated it way too much. If you look at the "name brand" shocks like Fox and RockShox I don't know of any current models that you use a positive and negative chamber.
I've mentioned this in the comments before but I would not skimp on a rear shock. It's just one of those things that if you're going to do it then it's worth spending the extra on. I have a RoxkShox Monarch on my XR Pro, and it's been well worth the $230 or $240 I paid.
I hear you on the positive and negative chamber deal for sure.
As far as the way you feel on spending money for a better rear shock, everyone has something like that where they draw the line. We have had several people say things like, "if you aren't going to get a more expensive bike, why bother riding". The way we feel is if you don't have the money for the more expensive stuff, then get what you are comfortable with. By no means should people go into debt for this sport/hobby when there is so much budget stuff to play with.
It's way more fun to be under biked, excited, and debt free than to be over biked, bored, and in debt. Obviously this applies to the bike as a whole and not just a rear shock.
Thanks man👍
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS well said. I know a lot of people would say, in the case with my bike, why put a $240 shock on a $400 bike? But I thought it was a worthy upgrade, and it's turned out to be just that. I had a friend that also had an XR Pro, and he went with the Suntour Raidon shock, and he liked it pretty well.
I don't know if my DNM shock was defective or not, but it didn't seem to hold air. The lockout did not prevent movement like my RockShox. Although to be fair it was on my wife's Mongoose Bedlam that is the old "Y frame" design, and I have read that is a very inefficient rear suspension design. Also, the DNM did not come with a shock pump, of course. But my RockShox pump would not work on it. I don't know if it used a different thread or not. I had to use an air compressor to put air in it (which I've read not to do). And I don't know if I had any way of checking the air pressure in it.
Of the 3 you tested I'd probably go for the Suntour for simplicity alone.
I had the dnm AO-42R and I switched to the AOY-36RC like the one in the video and I like the extra features the new one I have has, but it doesn't feel as plush as my old one. I tried adjusting the pressure for my weight and same with the negative chamber, but it just feels firm even with rebound set. I just want to know which one may be better at absorbing small and bigger bumps better, I really hate having the placebo effect in this scenario 😂😅
this is so damn crazy, first you guys get the Satori deviant 2 handlebars which I got right before your video, then you guys get a Box 3 groupset and I literally just installed a Box 4 groupset on my GT Aggressor Pro a couple days ago, lol, great minds think alike. I'm really interested to see how you like that Box 3 groupset because so far I'm liking the Box 4. Oh also installed a Wolf Tooth 1x chainring and just got some RaceFace Chester pedals which I'll get tomorrow. Now I just gotta get a new wheelset (I still plan on using the affiliate links you sent me, and upgrade my front fork (although still rocking and loving the LUTU fork)
Man sounds good, I saw your comment on husky as well, so cool it's got that strong of a clutch! Hey and if there's nothing wrong then don't fix it!!@
Funn components and Box?? Wow man! Cant wait for that content. You can really smash the cats meow without hesitation. 😊
That's the plan brother🤘 Thanks and the install will be Friday's Video!!
@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS oh you are guys are gonna enjoy. And so will i. 😊💪
I felt like when I watched the real time Exa form vid, you only seemed to like it on the big but in this vid you seem to like it more all round. Is it that it needed some time to break in or you were able to dial it in better? I'm the same height and weight as you but just ordered the Exa Form.
I think we have had time to really dial in air pressures and other adjustments, plus a little more time to break in don't hurt either.
All three are decent, but not having too much experience with rear shocks definitely made it a bit of a learning curve to overcome. We still stand behind most of the stuff said in the original Realtime Review but we definitely feel like if we do any more rear shock reviews we will be better equipped for it.
You really can't go wrong with any of these in a upgrade over stock on budget bikes atleast.
I'm glad I ride a hardtail, those rear shocks are a minefield 😯, very confusing! You guys make these things so much easier for us normos to understand.
The Hodges have pretty much an entire bike! You lucky boys! Looking forward to seeing how it all performs.
Great mail time and great video as always gents.
Take care 🍺😎👍
Man hardtails are the way to go!! LOL Hodges hooked us up no doubt. Just installed tonight and should be out Friday!! Peaceout Danny Boy 👦
I think I'm gonna try the EXA .
DO IT! That shock is pretty legit
Rear shock comparison and settings will be very difficult to review/judge unless you consistently do them on the same bike. The angles and lengths of the links will change the dynamics. The travel of the shock typically will not be the same travel as the rear wheel. Forks have a 1 to 1 ratio of travel compared to the wheel. But, how ever you review them, it will be informative and entertaining.
Man you got me at the end! Thank you👍 Not professionals just trying to share.
Hi great mail time loving the look of the funn bars very nice will be keeping an eye on the stem as well to see what you think wolf dad going to look cool in his fox top great video again 👍
Man WOLFMANS gonna be stylin and profilin!!!
Do you guys have any experience with the hydraulic shocks? I know tgey aren't as good as air, but are the better than the cheapie coil shocks that come on lower end bikes?
13:52 damn spacers, same here, never pull the trigger, they are expensive, lol
🤣🤣 We are way too much alike🤘
Are DNM air rear suspensions serviceable?
Man, I do not know???
What about coil shocks?
Still need to try one! We ordered one lastvyeae but it had gotten discontinued, so no shipment. If we can fine a budget style for sure.
I really enjoy your videos. What is the shock pump that you use.
Hey brother, it's actually a rockshox fork pump. Here is an affiliate link amzn.to/3FJJaOh
Suntour best one you have
We like the Suntour pretty good.
DNM all the way.. But I'm testing out the Specialized Rockshox with The Brain rear shock. No need to click the lockout on and off. Lol.
Oh my god!! That's awesome, a guy i rode with recently has one and man that's some tech!!!!
It's actually old technology. SID with The Brain also. FOX has their version out if you can find one. It's like a spring loaded shaker in the secondary canister. It seems to work well. But it doesn't work well in 15f weather. Neither does the KS dropper post I have. I'm surprised that the Alivio brakes work well still in the cold (MT 200) . It's been hell around here because of the Canadian Bridge blockade. The government has blocked all the streets going accross the road the bridge is on.
I wonder if you could jerry rig something up with the dnm since it's a 2 chamber system.
All these shoxs are copies from the expensive fox and other makes, china is very good in copying cause all American and other shoxs companies are made in Taiwan cmon men love the dnm aoy-36rc,love all that tuning,hope they make replacement air can bearings and seals after 50hrs tuneup and 200hrs damper oil change,lets go brandon
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I have a wonderful vintage (2003) made in America fs xc bike, very frustrating because Fox and Cane Creek don't make 195mm eye-to-eye rear air shocks for it anymore.
Talking about idiots talking about stuff that don't know what they're talking about... I bought some used thru axle wheels this past weekend. After a long email chain with a company in Taiwan, I have decided that it is not very budget friendly to replace all the bearings and get the QR conversion kit for those hubs. I will be purchasing a set of Koozer hubs off Amazon and teaching myself the art of wheel building. It'd be awesome to see you guys give it a try too! It would definitely be a challenge and the Wolfman would probably need several dad sodas to get through. As I probably will too haha
Well Travis that's all you man!! Nah but really I would love to get a setup that is budget and teach myself as well like. I'll tell you what man, if you don't mind. If and when you figure out all the stuff you need for the job, let me know and I would love to try. Thanks man and may wanna drink before hand as well!!😉😉Later Travis
How many cost it on air choks
Hey Tick are you going to UFC 272?
No man. I will be watching our boy Bryce though.
Fox 🦊 Rear shark
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next coil rear shock 😬
😆 Probably not anytime soon. Who knows🤷♂️
Fox 🦊 180 per Jersey I have all the colors paid nothing Fox is the best Mountain bike stuff
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@@WOLFTICKVIDEOS so no 🦊
That’s was bull shit Fox 🦊 36 are you putting it on the GT bike
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