The Dresden Files: Storm Front, vol. 2: Maelstrom - Atop the Fourth Wall
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
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Originally released June 28th, 2023
ORIGINAL DESCRIPTION: The sad thing is that I don't think Harry got paid for any of this.
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The fact that Harry's father was a stage magician, and that Linkara talks about wizards using guns, make me think that Harry is the son of an alternate universe's Zatara.
“I sent it back where it belongs!”
“Into the arms of Mitch Buchannon. He misses his frog-hybrid girlfriend sooo much.”
**sniffs** "my save..."
I now require Dresden Files/Baywatch Nights crossover.
Morgan as a tsundere is kinda hilarious.
A tsundere....for JUSTICE!
This video is hilarious to me for reasons I can only assume are because I’m big on the Dresden files lol
It might fit he did care and was trying a scared straight thing.
The books explain it better (for most of the things you comment on), but Names (in capital) give you a measure of power over beings, if you get it the exact saying of it correct, hence him using his full Name.
Would also add Harry would agree with Linkara, a gun is something he generally uses, but his is stuck locked up in his office after the Scorpion.
And they don't use magic people to kill people who step out of line, they use swords :) Use of magic for violence against mortals can be corruptive in the Dresden Files universe, hence the use of Swords and guns.
Really any sort of "black magic", even if its used with the best of intentions, can become corruptive. I'll be vague here for a bit because this happens in book 8.
A future character uses mind control to try to get two of her friends to stop doing drugs, but as one of the seven laws is to not tamper with another's mind...
Her act also starts to slowly corrupt her.
To the question in the end credits, little Jenny Sells (who Butcher has hinted at showing up again eventually) read about Dresden in the Midwest Arcane, the 'news of the weird' style rag that Susan wrote for.
Weird factoid, but the Author of the Dresden Files is a huge fan of Blue Beetle.
The weirder thing is that his car's named after The Blue Beetle, but the one from The Electric Company instead of DC.
This is actually pretty nice timing, Jim Butcher's going to be a guest at a con I'm attending this weekend, Florida Supercon.
Any news on the new Dresden book?
New episode of Secret Invasion comes out: I sleep
New episode of AT4W comes out less than 1 minute ago: REAL SHIT
So true.
lol.
There’s no AI in AT4W.
The A means very different things.
@@daelen.cclarkAI The 4th Wall is a different show. Regularly posts videos on time, but man, are the jokes derivative.
Secret invasion FUCKing sucks 😐😑😒
God, when was the last time he did the 'I am a Man' joke? Man, I missed that.
Blame the comics for never giving me an opportunity. XD
@@AT4W *Shakes fist.*
"DARN YOU COOOMMMIIIIICCCCSSS!!!"
I can't believe the first was two years ago that review got me into the Dresden files
What do you think so far?
@@featherwind1461 I'm up to Summer Knight and the books are great
@@chs9999 Glad you enjoy it! Prepare for one hell of a roller coaster ride of emotions, the next few books.
This series is just so god damn good.
same, though lol
Gotta say, the spell where he used a broom to clean all the scorpions away is pretty creative, as most would just do something to blast them or such.
"Sorry dude, but you are third in line behind Ghostbusters and the A Team".
Being a huge fan of the Dresden Files, I know Harry would love been associated with those two.
I get the distinct feeling Morgan is a crusty Dean in his day-job.
Morgan: “ *ANNNIMAL* *HOOOUUUUUSEEE!* “
In book 7 he gets fleshed out a little more: Morgan is a seriously burned out cop. As Harry puts it, he’s seen centuries of people doing awful stuff to each other and twisting the law to get away with it. Their relationship does improve.
@@jamesadamsfl And books 5 and 11 (Dead Beat and Turn Coat), we get more on Morgan, especially finding out his Sword should have BMF on it.
More of an Inspector Javert type.
Bit about the gun in the episode reminded me of this exchange from the Lost Room, where various retro objects have random powers (like the Comb stopping time for "10 seconds"), and some people have gotten way too disconnected from normalcy:
"What does the Gun do?"
"It shoots bullets. Really fast."
I believe the quote that comes to mind is "No matter the Wizard, a bullet through the temple really cramps their style"
Cause of something Linkara brought up, I should say as a huge Dresden files fan, Harry Dresden IS supposed to be a perverted sexist who grows out of it, and you can tell in books he does stop his language but when he loses a woman he loves and goes around white court stuff (who are extremely sexual in nature) he’s at his worse in narration.
Other characters in Dresden files who have their own POV have ZERO perverted or sexist comments… then again one of them is Murphy, a woman.
Also the reason Morgan loves saying Dresden’s full name is because he loves mocking Morgan in how he knows his full name, which is a big deal among magic users.
Though the true name thing got retconned later- it gives power over an immortal being basically forever (though you wouldn't use it on someone like Queen Mab or Santa Claus unless you've got a death wish), but mortals are in a constant state of change so you don't have to just know their full name but they way in which they say it, which changes and consequently is only useful for a short time.
@@MacrocheniaThat's not the retcon. Harry used that in the book of this very comic.
@@damienhailey118 In the original few books, knowing a mortal's True Name was basically as powerful, hence Morgan saying Harry's. The retcon was that it was significantly less useful against mortals.
Now I kinda want to see Dresden team up with John Constantine to take on demons.
I’ve wanted this for a number of years now
That was my first though
The snark would be /amazing/.
I see your John Constantine and raise you the Winchester Brothers teaming up to deal with Samara.
Would they get along? Or barely able to work together.
Funnily enough, dresden DOES use a gun for some good shots against more magical creatures than just some black wizards. Also about the film cannister, objects in the physical realm just breaks and disrupts the magical field the circle is generating, that's why he was able to do that.
I think the misunderstanding here is that there's a difference between a 'magic circle' (which is an artifice designed to concentrate and control the flow of magic) and a magical barrier. (Which is just a... physical wall created by magic)
I forgot how simple things were in the first Dresden book.
Harry: "Maybe this time it will be different. Maybe this time i'll solve everything through reason, conversation and diplomacy."
Tomas gives him a long look.
Harry: "It could happen !"
@@LordLazaruss I kinda feel bad for Harry. All he wants is one day without Crazy Bullshit. Just 24 hours. One would think that not to be a big ask, and yet,
Dang it Linkara, Dresden loves Burger King, not Taco Bell...JEEZ. XD
As a long-time fan of the Dresden files . . . It's a *damned* good series!
The Morgan baka joke is actually kinda appropriate. Later in the books Morgan says his issue with Harry is less that he's a potentially evil wizard, just young and inexperienced. Then a few stories later we see Morgan actually feels a little sorry for Harry as he knows about Harry's mother, the circumstances around his birth. Which together mean most of Harry's life is an uphill battle.
And he been alive long enough that he seen 999 times out of 1000 warlocks backslide and a lot of people get hurt that could have been avoided had they just killed them. he and everyone aren't scared that Harry special...their terrified he *isn't*
I assume by "a couple of stories later" you're talking about the short story "Journal"? which for some reason has yet to be collected in any anthology.
Hey man, glad to see you finally finished this one up. Been waiting for you to finish the first Dresden Files.
Couple things to answer your questions (like I did last time).
1) Morgan has been alive for around 150ish years, and has seen a lot of wizards go bad. In the Dresden Files, power tends to corrupt, much like Victor Sells, so he sees a guy that's killed with magic, he's 90% sure that guy is already lost. That's why he has such a hard-on for killing Harry.
2) Magic tends to not have a lot of agency on its own, you can't really 'program' magic to do a lot. So you can maybe take direct control of a scorpion, or have it attack any life-force it senses, but telling it to attack 'everything but me' is a bit beyond what magic can normally do. Victor basically aimed them at Harry and said "Attack" and thought he could just unsummon them when needed. That's why they attacked him, because he was too busy to directly control them, and basically had too much on his mind to calmly and rationally use the spell to unsummon them.
3)It's explained in the books that there are a few ways to do magic. If you are planning on pulling off a big mamma jamma spell like killing someone with ritual magic using a storm as a power source, what you gotta do is make a circle to build up and trap the magic while you shape it. This kinda acts like a 'bubble.' You can then 'pop the bubble,' when the spell is ready and the shape is all set up and the magic will do what you want it to do (like explode someone's heart.) If someone disrupts the circle (pops the bubble if you will) early, then all that magic goes everywhere without being fully shaped and does things like sets your house on fire. Technically all magic works like that, but the easier spells can be done by just imagining a circle and are so fast that there's not much time to 'pop' your opponent's bubble.
One thing of note, Harry's father wasn't spr supporting him and Harry's mom. She died in childbirth.
The phone in his office works because it's an old fashioned dial phone.
It's honestly kind of weird going back to looking at the original Dresden Files stories and see how much has changed as the books went on.
15:30 Holy shit is that the ship from Descent?
"Hey, you guys ever played Descent?"
AAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Wow I'm remembering how simple the Dresden Files started off as. This was way before the Fae got involved and we saw more of the wider magic world with the various Vampire Courts
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Lots of good stuff and a reminder I need to get the novel.
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The JSS reference was as unexpected as it was appreciated! 😁
I'm actually doing a Dresden Files TTRPG with some friends, so it's a neat coincidence that you're doing a review of Dresden Files at the same time.
16:35 The magic circles in The Dresden Files function basically as force fields that block the passage of magic and supernatural creatures. These circles will fail if anything manages to cross their threshold while they're active. Mortals (ie. anyone who isn't sufficiently supernatural), due to reasons both too complicated and spoilery to explain, are immune to many magical effects, including circles. Since harry (a mortal) made an object (the film canister) pass through the circle, the circle's effect was dispelled.
The "Hurled by a mortal" bit specifically is about establishing the edge case that tools and objects will also count as supernatural or mortal depending on who's using them (ie. a ghost cannot escape a circle by throwing a rock across the circle's threshold, because the rock would be considered a supernatural attack since it was initiated by a supernatural creature).
On the subject of how he disrupted the ritual with a film canister: The book explains that the reason that works is because it was something real (as in, physically real, not something created by magic) crossing the boundaries of the circle, thus breaking it and unleashing the energies within. It's the same reason why someone walking out of a circle in later books also breaks it.
It's also how he was able to break a circle in a much later book. Though that time involved a lot more destruction of property. I won't go into details because spoilers for Small Favor, but needless to say Harry was QUITE HAPPY to destroy the circle in question.
If you know, you know.
15:30 YES! I love that game! Not recommend it to anyone who's suscetible to motion sickness in videogames but for everyone who could enjoy a spaceship FPS, go for it
Cool review. This comic is actually fairly accurate to the book as well. A lot of the nitpicks (😆) you had were kinda the books fault (ie the jacket/desperado thing) I'm also surprised you didn't mention about his car being called the blue beetle in this review as you missed it last time. I'd give the comic bonus points/forgiveness for minor issues just due to the high accuracy. The artist change (even if he's not a favorite) also kinda makes sense as there was more magic depiction so that style fits.
16:30 It’s been a while since I’ve read or listened to storm front but the way *I* read it was it physically broke what was making the circle (like chalk or something) and that caused it to go wrong
16:58 any reference to JS Sterling is always appreciated
15:28 It's been a while... Also Descent to Undermoutain uses the same engine, so that ship isn't that far off.
15:19 Ironic. A wizard got a technological gizmo
16:45 i like that way to nerf magicians: make them have tunnel vision.
although i am starting to get sick of that meme of "gun can defeat any fictional character "
21:21 oooh... a recent comic
Guns are actually treated pretty seriously in the Dresden Files, in that they are do kill Wizards dead. And most more experienced Battle Wizards we meet in the Dresden Files often carry them, as well as Swords and grenades.
To be fair, Harry and a lot of his wizard friends also use guns. Sometimes magic enhanced, sometimes just lead. That is one thing the series is very pointed about. That magic is dangerous and can do a lot of terrifying things, but likewise never sleep on good old human ingenuity.
Lewis always delivers the goods.
Linkara "Hey you guys ever played Descent?"
Me - "No... In fact I never heard of it until today."
I play in high school doing computer class. Back then multi player was only people in the room. My friend keep.killing me so.I walk to him and lighty hit in the head
4:30 what I find funny about that joke is if Linkara changed Taco Bell to Burger King it actually would be likely XD
I utterly love the title card, to the point that now I really want to see you play a live-action Tinkerbell. It would be a very different take on the character to be sure but you could make it work ;)
Also, when Monica mentioned that they had their mothers eyes, was I the only one thinking that maybe she had them literally like that joke in the Hot Shots sequel?
And Addams family values Gomez "he has your father's eyes."
Morticia "Gomez get those out of his mouth"
Lol
The council doesn't use magic to kill. They use the big sword they carry around.
I know you are not an avid viewer of dresden, but he is an overwhelming fan of Burger King. that and Pizza Express, but the later is to pay his pixies.
and you did the same thing as James Marsters, the E in Marcone is silent
The original title Butcher wanted to go with for the first Dresden story was Semiautomagic. Loved the review, yours show is always good fun.
To explain the film real thing, I think it's because the whole "magic and technology under a certain age don't mix well", I can't remember if it's a matter of how complex the technology is or how new it is (with what I remember of Dresdenverse magic, it could one or the other, or both) it's the reason Harry drives an old Beetle around no problem (side note, it's not painted like that because Harry wanted it like that, it's more that Harry is stuck using whatever replacement parts he can find since he's stuck using the older stuff, and he can't exactly spend the money to repaint it), if he tried using a newer car, well one of the better outcomes would be the car suddenly deciding to not work. If the tech is over a certain age/less complicated it should work, in book's Harry is actually able to get an xray done of himself once his friend started using an older machine (as in so old it was considered an antique iirc), this is why yes Harry can actually make use of things like phones and guns, preferably older simpler ones but still. I'm guessing the film real coming in contact Victors spell screwed it up, especially since Victor's magic isn't really complicated or sturdy, it's just really powerful, even something that small giving the slightest bit of disruption was enough to throw things off, have to reread the book to be sure though. It's just one of the interesting quirks of Dresdenverse magic.
Little disappointed Linkara didn’t show the spread of Harry using magic to levitate; it’s pretty awesome.
The comic did a great job adapting the story, hitting the Emotional highpoints as well as the action ones (in particular Harry’s temptation to use dark magic and his ultimate rejection of that temptation because a Wizard “uses his power for knowledge and defense. Never for attack”).
The book does explain the film canister thing a little better: throwing a solid object across Victor’s magic circle disrupted the magical energies. I think the comic said that, but it could have been more clear about it.
I'm so glad you're still reviewing comics. Ty linkara ranger
I was just about to show a friend your review of the first volume, only to find that you had uploaded this review of the second volume 2 hours ago. That is some awesome (yet slightly unnerving) timing!
"I sent it back where it belongs."
Back with his brothers Pimple and Zitz.
FINALLY A CAROL STORY NEXT WEEK THAT ISN'T HER AT HER WORST!
That one's mine! I am SO excited! Finally, I get to see Linkara talk about Carol Danvers in a book that doesn't suck!
@@FNGLHR Thank you, you're doing gods work.
@@angrybrony Just doing what I can for the Corps.
Not exactly at her best either, just sayin. 35+ year Marvel reader and I’ve read the Ms. Marvel era and Captain Marvel era. Mistakes have been made, like a lot of mistakes.
@@MrRobot1984 i'll fuckig take it. we literally can't get worse.
"...from two years ago!"
*looking at the video in question being recommended to me with a time stamp of "1 year ago"*
Blame RUclips and check the dates, instead. =)
6:22 Nice Negan impression there Harry I give it a 7 out of 10
I remember The Dresden Files TV show on the Sci-Fi channel with Executive producer Nicolas Cage.
wonder what Linkara would be like with a Blackened Coin...
Victor's death must be one the most over the top ones I saw in a while. So many deadly pieces to it, you can't help but almost be like "stop, he's already dead!"
This story shows why parents need to keep their kids away from Magic. Booster packs are an expensive addiction.
15:20 Man, how many years has it been?
Edit: 19:26 Actually, from I've heard, crow is a delicacy in some countries. There's also the superstition of crows carrying the souls of the dead to the afterlife, and so some people believe eating crow means you will eat a human soul... I swear I am not making any of this up.
It's kind of a trip seeing this super early version of Harry Dresden, the stakes are so much smaller and you can believe he makes these kinds of mistakes. The same with Murphy, she clearly thinks she's in a different genre and doesn't realize what she's in for just yet.
so about the pronunciation of "Gentleman" Johnny Marcone's name: Word of God states that it's pronounced as a dual-syllabic word (Mar-cone) as opposed to tri-syllabic (mar-cone-ee)
To be fair, it's a fairly common mistake to make; it was a mistake that James Marsters made during his narration of Storm Front, as well.
21:18 Here’s a rarity you are reviewing a comic I actually read before. And when I saw it on your website and all I have to say is yeesh good luck.
You really need to read the novels. They are one of the best series I’ve ever read. They don’t need to be comics; rarely does a narrative create such vivid mental images. Reading them is like watching a movie in your head. Skip storm Front; or don’t, whatever. Shit gets crazier and crazier every installment and the first chapter usually recaps most of what you need to know.
i mean he basiclaly read it here, so now he doens't need to worry about storm front.
Whoo, more Dresden!
Also, it’s pronounced “Mar-cone” not “Mar-conie”, you’re good though, the audiobook narrator got it wrong for the first three books too.
14:46 Always makes me smile when I see this clip as Mitchell & Webb aren't well know outside the UK.
15:29 I'd make the obvious joke but I seriously don't want to give HER any credit whatsoever.
... To have the money to get a Patreon Sponsored review... First up... Deadly Foes of Spider-Man, Second up, Superior Foes of Spider-Man. Overdrive, Hell Yeah.
"Have you guys ever play Descent?" I did ^^
Damnit; I hate it when they don't have pan pizza.
My brothers and I played the HECK out of Descent!
16:57 Nice 🤣.
to clear up your confusion on the "in the arcane" bit, the arcane is actually the tabloid Susan works for, that's what the little girl is talking about. although from my recollection that's not ever something she says in the actual novel, just that she "hopes harry is a good guy" so what the even hell?
I read the book after watching this review, if I recall specifically in the novel, she specifies she seen him in the Arcane, the newspaper.
@22:55 Actually he's more like 6th in line. Ahead him is Doctor Strange,Kim Possibble, Darkwing Duck, Ghost busters and A-Team
"Why?" Because the toilet stopped working and do you know how much plumbers charge?
I know nothing about the Dresden Files but hope Linkara considers making a photoshooting of himself over a giant pepperoni pizza like the drawing.
Good morning. I will watch this later as I’ll need something to cheer me up 😅
Gawd has it really been 2 YEARS?!? 😫
Might I suggest a retrospective of the first IDW runs (sidestories or one offs included) of Transformers.
You can suggest it, but the retrospectives are for series that helped me on my journey as a comics fan. I'm eventually going to run out of them and just... stop doing them.
@@AT4W Okay MAYBE not retrospectives...maybe individual reviews or something. These are just thoughts. I thoroughly enjoyed your other big reviews like Blue Beetle and such, aside.
15:32 Oh man I loved descent as a kid, I should really dig it up again and play it! I recognized that ship the instant you pulled it out. You going to stream descent? What's your favourite weapon? I like the Spread Cannon but the homing missiles were often the best, though the Quad Laser upgrade late in the game was worth keeping. Vulcan cannon would be more fun if I could find more ammo for it but the upgraded Gauss cannon from Descent II was easily the best. Flash missiles always blinded me and I hated the thief bot that stole weapon upgrades. I play with a joystick and wasd controls with button for rising and falling, full 3d movement games are so rare.
Sorry just had to gush for a minute since I rarely remember those games
Favorite weapon - can't remember the name of it, but my brother and I always called it the tractor beams in Descent 3 - these two arcs of energy that reached out, grabbed an enemy, and slowly ripped them apart.
And we might just stream it at some point! =)
@@AT4W sadly I never got to play descent 3 as a kid but now I want to more than ever. Ever if I could have afforded it the family computer we had never could have run it. Thanks for the memories, Linkara.
Hmmm a Ghost Busters/ A Team hybrid. Now that would be insane & cool! Now I want a Patreon sponsor to pay Linkara to review Go Busters. I know it's not the same, but still a cool team to look into. Also reviewing sentai is fun.
I love, love, LOVE the books.
2:57 The reason why Morgan is like that is because he is a paranoid ass with issues and he blames Harry for a lot of things, most of which aren't Harry's fault.
Actually Linkara Faeries would be okay with Pizza even without pan crust because they love Pizza in all forms as long as its delicious and good.
Man I got here from oneyplays and I'm glad I decided to check this guy out
15:30: No, but I saw the Children of Doom episode on it.
I wonder if this title card is giving Linkara Power Ranger Turbo flashbacks...
When was the last time Linkara did the "I am a Man" joke? Been ages.
I want to say it was within the last two years, but I can't say for certain. Blame the comics for not giving me much opportunities to do so. XD
“The Reporter Woman” is a really important character actually, maybe don’t skip her in the future.
Yeah, but she ain't really a factor in this one and I was already throwing out a dozen other names to remind people of an episode from two years ago.
Chill out It's a Patreoned sponsored review or otherwise a normal episode of AT4W and not a retrospective or "history of" video so it will be a long time before he gets to a point in the story where that character would be important. Bascially when something is a normal episode he doesn't care as much about it being heavily researched unless it's needed.
It does take a bit for that importance to come into play...
@@aaronbourque5494 Oh boy, is that true in a lot of ways.
@@Pikachu2Ash Why don’t you chill out? I just wanted to foreshadow the whole “Mother of Harry’s child” thing…. I didn’t think I came off as annoyed.
Yes I have played descent. I own it for my ps1. The game is great
Mafia and vampires just don’t mix
Great work as always man!
Always loved Descent!
Knowing what happened to Susan and Murphy later on makes it kind of hard to see them here.
I wanna see the comic adaptation of Gremlins.
Fairies like pizza?
Damn straight, "All hail the Za Lord!" (Dresden Files book reference)
3:30 yeah, it's looking like he really just wants Harry dead and this is as good an excuse as any.
Okay, are people forgetting that he was hired to look into these cases?
Is it just me.. or does Morgan remind me a lot of Judas Traveler from Spiderman: Clone Saga.
It can't have been two years. Where did the time go?
As a matter of fact, I do remember Descent
"Marcone" is two syllables, I believe...
"or to kill people who step out of line." You have no idea, buddy.