GamingSins: Everything Wrong With Devil May Cry 5
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- Опубликовано: 15 ноя 2020
- Welcome to GamingSins, where I nitpick the hell out of video games.
It's here, ladies and gentlemen. The greatest action game of all time. Yeah, you heard me right. DMC 3 might have set the gold standard in stylish action, but DMC 5 took it to the next level and perfected it. 11 years of waiting and it was well worth it. Behold, my personal game of the generation. And even though a new bar has been set for action games, DMC 5 is not without its fair share of sins. Here they are.
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MODS used:
Nero DMC 4 outfit:
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Dante DMC 1/DMC 5 mashup:
www.nexusmods.com/devilmaycry...
Casual Nico:
www.nexusmods.com/devilmaycry...
Lady DMC 4 outfit:
www.nexusmods.com/devilmaycry...
If you wish to support Jaki Rose, be sure to check her out on Spotify where you can also listen to the end credit 'Video Game Song'
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And of course, don't forget to check out The Originals, CinemaSins.
/ cinemasins 
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Sin David Cage's Detroit Become Human
Silent Hill 2
Resident Evil 4. They're good games but still got sins
I can't wait for everything wrong in last of us part 2 , I don't hate this game but there are some mistakes in the game need your sins.
Are u gonna do a everything wrong with mk11
NOICE, I was really hoping for a new video ❤️
Hey man you gonna take on the darksider Trilogy next? I'm not saying it's as good as Devil May Cry but it's kind of a close 3rd in my book
Vergil did actually steal Nero's arm. His arm wasn't the Yamato itself. It had already existed at the start of DMC4, and it absorbed the Yamato a few missions into the game, which unlocked his devil trigger.
He stole Nero's arm, destroyed it, and retrieved the Yamato. Nero was capable of wielding it outside of his arm, and even offered to return it to Dante, implying that he didn't need to lose his arm to give it back.
Vergil just isn't one to ask nicely for more power.
Fully agree with that last line
XD
That, and Vergil was D Y I N G
Right.. "destroy it" while Vergil has a taunt that transform the Yamato to Nero's arm in 5SE
@@ihevmilkdhou Yeah but the Vergil playthrough in every game he's playable in is non-canon anyway.
@@brianw.7700 I mean if 3 was canon you would have 6 fights and a huge chunk would be standing in a one place looking in the mirror like more power.
If you want the cutscenes to look even more goofy, you can equip the banana devil breaker.
“I got all the power I need right here”
*Holds up a bunch of bananas*
It’s hilarious
Reject humanity, return to monke
@@zmx132457 *apes together strong*
Hold up there's a fuckin banana devil breaker?
@@SpookyHam yes, its a free dlc.
@@SpookyHam Nico is goddamn wild LOL
V saying he is but two days old, was a quote to a writing by William Blake, which if I recall is describing the birth of an angel. So I'd take that sin off, for they used the beautiful use of a William Blake poem, to actually tie into V's literal existence of being 2 days old, and as well as him being as close to an angel is he could get considering he was essentially the light inside of Vergil.
Additionally, if you read the manga it turns out this was, in fact, V trying to crack a joke.
Human side, not 'light'. Angels do not seem to exist in DMC Universe, and the whole point of humanity is it can swing either way all on its own.
@@user-yk9kh3xu5s incorrect
In the song Devil Trigger, Nero's Theme
The lyrics go "Embrace the darkness that's within me"
While also referring to a demon that is "Clenching its power, trying to break free"
This would imply that the darkness within Nero, is his Demonic side
Vergil's theme is called "Bury the Light"
In this song, it says "Bury the light deep within!
Cast aside, there's no coming home!"
In DMC 5 it is indirectly stated that Vergil had believed that Eva (his and Dante's mother) left Vergil, to protect Dante, which would leave him to feel Cast Aside, but that's irrelevant,
What's important is "Bury the light deep within" imying that Vergil desired to Bury something within himself,
His humanity could be the light the song is referring to, as Vergil "cast aside" his humanity to become stronger
V is Vergil's humanity,
If "darkness" that is referred to in "Devil Trigger" is a Nero's Demonic side, which he later embraces, then one could assume Vergil's humanity is the light that "Bury the Light" is referring to
Except v is only two days old and has no name at that point,since it takes place two days after vergil cut v off. He also isn't saying v isn't quoting poetry,the fact he is doing that is completely irrelevant to the sin.
@@user-yk9kh3xu5s that's not the point of humanity, that's the point of humankind. Humanity is all the traits that an ideal human being would have. Being a human means you could either be bad or good, but having humanity means you're a good person, just like Nero and Sparda are, and maybe Dante too
The greatest sin is not knowing who slept with vergil
whoever she is, i'm pretty sure she must be a woman who have the biggest balls on the planet since she not only able to go up to vergil and ask him out, but succeed doing so. funny old theory saying it's morrigan once upon the time.
we need a reveal tho. if there will be DMC6
Nero should've immediately asked this the minute he found out vergil was his father, who's his mom
It might have not crossed his mind as something important
@@alvinreinaldy5148 Morrigan being Nero's mother doesn't make any sense at all, but i agree on everything else you said.
@@youeatcerealwithafork
i mean capcom have a habit of crossover sometimes. and by all means the only capcom characters i can think that's ballsy enough to make a move on vergil is morrigan aensland. tho yea, it's as questionable as dante-bayonetta pairing. (since dante's legit pairing is the missus patty that's just turned 20)
Vergil: *performs planetary level attacks*
Dante: haha royal guard go brrrrrrr
Are those even planetary? Maybe in DBZ
@@RenegadeStriker7 They surpassed planetary in DMC1 when Mundus warped reality and started launching meteors all over the place and that guy is an insect compared to Dante and co. now
@@RenegadeStriker7 Dante fought mundus who made a dimension just for their fight and won
@@Roymoney1998 can you explain how warping reality is the same to being able to destroy a planet
@@darrylisaac9400 Being able to control and casually toss meteors around gives Continental to planetary AP depending on size not to mention Dante Tanking said meteors and being capable of blasting through those meteors with his own magical ability.
By the way, Nero’s coat, Dante’s coat, his hair when he is passed out, lady’s outfit, nico’s outfit, and Vergil’s coat are all modded
That is straight up padding the sin count if I’ve ever seen one. Someone get the Birdman in here NOW!
Vergil's coat is actually an alternate costume you get for S ranking Mission 19 or 20. (I forgot which one it is.) Everything else is super modded though.
@@xRidlay ah thanks
I knew the outfit looked weird!!
AND trishs face
"Oh, Vergil, what a true deadbeat dad you are."
Deadbeat dad of a deadweight son.
Well said
And they just can’t stay dead.
And Pizza lover Uncle
@@Omega-jg4oq You mean wacky woohoo pizza man
like father,Like son.
“you could have told him that in DMC3”
these guys fight over literally anything. They fought over Dante wanting to borrow Vergil’s book. they are the physical embodiment of the phrase “shoot first, ask later”
Fighting over trivial things like a book or chocolate is not as conflictive as fighting because you have always believed that your mother preferred your brother over you. If it really was such an important detail, they should have mentioned it a long time ago, I think it would have been better if they excluded such a far-fetched explanation.
@@xGunbladeKnightx
again, these guys cannot talk things out, they fight it out. The whole plot of DMC3 started because dante wanted to fight vergil. in the original manga set right before dmc3, dante said “demons..were the ones that killed our mother” after he met up with vergil after god knows how long and finds him literally trying to raise hell. Vergil in response, coldly says “I know.” then they fight, to where dante loses. Its been important that the mother of the family hits closer to the twins when compared to sparda, so why wouldn’t it be a big deal if vergil thought his mother abandoned him in favour of dante?
@@theastroguy7417 therefore, as I said, it was better that they exclude that explanation that Vergil believes that Eva prefers Dante. Then Vergil begins to question if his life would have been different, wtf...? Why include that now if it was never really important? I think is too late to explain those unnecesary things and that is why no one would believe them.
Vergil: "I am the storm that is approaching"
What GCN hears: "I am the sin that is approaching"
This will booming soon, believe me
Good one
You comeback to here.
You here?
You again? Must I see you everywhere?
I think the flirting joke is implying their friendship is NOT built around compliments
Yeah, they are the type to bust each other's balls all the time.
@@VinceOmega very much so, and it’s a lot of fun to watch. Nico’s a fun character, definitely a nice compliment to Nero’s character
tbh, a lot of good friendships I made are ones where you can blast each other out. If your friend gets offended by making a joke about them they're not your friend.
@@2slowpoke929 idk, people can be dicks and go over the line sometimes
@@calico.5588 I mean if you're friends with someone for over a month, and I mean friends friends you shoulda been able to talk shit here and there by now.
Dante begins dancing like MJ
Me: *Do it.*
Removes a sin
Me: *YES!!!*
20:55 hey don't blame him. He's a dad now, making puns is but an instinct
Biggest sin for me was not having anything for Lady & Trish to do.
But they had something to do! They technically both were the bosses respectively!
@@MadnessOpus eh, you could’ve put Nero in one of those bosses and it’d still be the same boss. If they had elements of their characters implemented into the fight, then I GUESS I can get behind that.
There should’ve been a mode/DLC called “Girls Night Out” or something where you get a bonus mission or 2 with the females (trying not to say “Ladies”, cuz, you know lol
My girls i swear
@@RileyJ3866
That’s why I said "technically", dude. I wholeheartedly agree with you.
I think ladies night was gonna come with the special edition, but probably the corona ruined that :(
No one's going to talk about how he missed the "This demon's your reason (Urizen) for fighting" pun? That needed so much attention imo.
I think he did. He said it was V's "Fill you dark soul with light" moment.
he did and he sinned it lol
@@abdelmalekheaven8634 Maybe, but the fact that a character, more importantly a character like V, who is so well-spoken, pulls a "Ligma" on Dante needs to be sinned more.
@@anteas0184 lmaooo facts man
Dante knew Trish was Angelo because she throws a motorcycle at him, just as he did when they first met.
And Dante gets a motorcycle after defeating Cavalier.. The Irony is a whole another level
@@Omega-jg4oq which formed from the pieces of the goddamn bike Trish/Cavaliere yeeted at him too. 😂
It would've been better if we actually fought Trish and Lady in their evil forms..like, using their character models with some of the Angelo armor mixed in.
"Rest in peace featherface. It looks like you stuck around and found out the hardway" would have been the best farewell.
This game didn't exceed expectations. It max acted them.
Good one
Nice
_smiles in gum-chewing taunt_
It SSS them
GCN is like your basic introvert, always going into hiding leaving people wondering where the hell he went, until out of freaking nowhere, he reappears only to astonish literally everyone.
Which is ironic, because he seems like a huge extrovert instead.
Heh, What Twisted way to say it, but at least he is Goofy and better than Dartigan's videos where he always complain in a way that he sounds like depressed selfish uncaring person
@@Omega-jg4oq agreed, and he just sounds like he was born with sarcasm
@@IamaPERSON someone needs to make EW with Dartigan channel, not his videos, the channel and he totally deserves it
@@Omega-jg4oq maybe not his whole channel, but a few vids, sure. He's not that bad, but he's not that good either.
4:40
Yeah no Nero’s arm was a thing long before he ever got the Yamato.
Yes, and even then, Nero was using his own sword. His demon was swinging Yamato.
Foolishness Nero, you shouldn't have Put the Yamato into your Devil Bringer in dmc4.
About Patty’s age, Vergil met Nero’s mom before the events of DMC3, evidenced by the fact that Vergil would have to be alive to have a kid, meaning there has to be around a 20 year gap between DMC3 and 4. 1, 2, and the anime took place about 10 years after DMC3, and with a 3 or so year gap between 2 and 4, that would mean Patty would be about 16ish during DMC4, a little younger than Nero. Having another 2-3 year gap between 4 and 5 would give Nero some time to become more of an adult, and would also mean that Patty is well within the reach of being 18 during the events of DMC5.
This could totally be refuted though, as producers, directors, and writers have all thrown different hats into the ring of the DMC timeline.
I WANT PATTY TO SHOW UP IN DMC6 TO DRAG DANTE BACK AND NAG HIM OVER AND BEYOND!
she definitely had a thing for dante and dante is really avoiding her for a reason all the time. could be an actual heartfelt story there
@@alvinreinaldy5148 there will be no more dmc games sadly as this was the last one
@@notme952 well, not really last dmc, i think i remember this is more. 'closing of dante-vergil story.' maybe, 'sparda bloodline ending' maybe. but not exactly 'no more dmc'
@@alvinreinaldy5148 they did say that this was the last game tho but besides that i dont know how nero's story wouild continue seeing ass all conflicts so far needed dante and vergil
If I'm not mistaken these are the following facts that we know for sure:
- Dante and Vergil were 8 when Eva died.
- At the time of DMC 3 they were both 19. DMC3 manga they were 18.
- Trish mentions when she meets Dante that his mother and brother died 20 years ago. This would make Dante 28 years at the time of DMC1.
- In DMC4 Nero is meant to be the same age as Dante and Vergil were in DMC3. Assuming Vergil showed the Fortuna prostitute his motivation roughly a year before DMC3, this would put Dante at 38 years old by the time of DMC4.
- DMC5 is confirmed by developers to take place 5 years after DMC4. Nero is now 24 and Dante & Vergil 43.
- Patty was 8 in the anime and 18 in DMC5, meaning Dante was 33 in the Anime. This fits the timeline of being between DMC1 and DMC4.
- Regarding DMC2, Matier apparently returns in the prequel light novel to DMC5 and mentions that Dante didn't return after the incident in DMC2 roughly 10 years ago. I haven't read the light novel so can not confirm this, but I'll link the reddit thread I found mentioning this. That means that DMC2 happened most likely a few months at most after the anime putting Dante's age at around 33-34 at DMC2.
Reddit source for DMC2 ages:
www.reddit.com/r/DevilMayCry/comments/lejbiw/dantes_age_when_nero_was_born/
The only wrong thing this games has are the years of unpaid child support that Vergil owns to Nero
Send my child support letters to the Underworld. Don't worry, I'll get 'em.
@@LegendaryDarkKnight602 especially since Nero would have been born a bit before Vergil raised Temen-Ni-Gru and then fell into the Demon world to get controlled by Mundus for about 10 years. On top of the fact it's hinted that it was a one night stand where the mother dumped Nero on the doorstep of Credo and Kyrie's family, so it wasn't really hinted that the mother knew Vergil's name.
@@TrueNoirChloeMoko Not at the doorstep of Kyrie's family, at an orphanage. The family of Kyrie simply adopted him later on because they helped out in the orphanage.
And the thousands of hours worth of playing catch
The real reason Vergil is chilling in the underworld rn is he needs to farm those demons red orb to pay for years of unpaid child support
GCN: '... decides to hide Dante in the closet of a burning house...'
Me: sighs while flashing back to Dmc 4 and Dante sat on Berial's tail engulfed in its flames and Dante is seemingly both comfortable and unaffected joking about singing his coat.
My point, it is the best place to hide Dante who is the son of a higher demon, because fire (in game) kills a tons of lesser demons.
She wasn't hiding him from the fire but whoever it was that killed her, I think.
He was just a kid.
Dante as an adult is a lot stronger than Dante as a kid.
@@Jacob_G9 a kid who is the higher potential spawn of a demon lord more powerful than the king of hell.
That is an excellent point.
Just because your son's part demon doesn't mean you should assume he's fireproof
10:44 “If the underworld had its own costume show, he’d definitely take first place”
Nice DMC3 Cerberus reference.
“This Demon is your reason”...sounds like a pun to “Urizen”. 😂
Minor issue: You congratulate the game for including details from the anime (Patty), but sin it for not explaining where V gets his money, that is showed in a manga. Double standards much?
had that same thought, got severely confused
Adding extra details from extra media is okay, but only including important details in that extra media is not. Including Patty and Morrison from the anime is cool, because the game acknowledges the franchise's expanded universe. Forgetting to mention how V gets the money to pay Dante in-game but including that detail in extra media is, in fact, sinful.
Butthurt much?
@@stevencontreras84 don't think this counts as butthurt when it's a valid observation, especially considering how vague it sounded in the video, but you'll probably just ignore this comment and say "yeah butthurt lol" anyway
@@tarantulahank8537 butthurt too?
“Switching styles makes the Vergil fight too easy”
The Dante fight in the se version
Cowabunga it is then
Switching styles makes the Dante fight hell
When it comes to vergil i always fight with the main sword (rebellion or dante's sword) and ebony and ivory, i can't bring myself to fight with any other thing, i respect and appreciate this fight so much in this kind of fights you are supposed to be fighting with the strongest of your weapons even if the game allows you to change them i always thought dante wouldn't beat vergil with a hat or something
@@thegaminglord2190
Yeah. The hat is also just too powerful. It's a joke weapon and an homage to MJ.
I always go Rebellion+DSD with E&I, as well.
@@rogaldorn4759 that's the reason i can barely get an A in his level cuz I'm not changing weapons like i do in the game but fuck it i will give ma boi vergil the respect he deserves, but i don't mind to put my "royal guard" into his "judgment cut" if you know what I mean XD
@@thegaminglord2190
Yeah. In a month I'll receive my fair share of RG-karma. Dante bossfight on DMD is going to be an "experience".
He does not hold back.
36:09 keep in mind he knows that V is Vergil’s humanity. He’s not letting someone random do it. He’s letting his brother finish his brother.
I'm not saying ur lying but what makes u think that Dante knows?
@@zenitsuyaboi9879 My brizzle in Chrizzle V straight up told him after they first met. They don’t show it verbatim to maintain the surprise later on but V told Dante everything. He knows the true identity of V and Urizen, hence his reaction when he saw V raise his Cane.
@@wigglerwarrior3167V told dante that the demon's name is Vergil he didn't say anything about himself dante was literally surprised in the next scene what do you not get
@@Tom-rd8dd Dante told V literally everything. Again, they don’t show this conversation, but he was completely aware of V’s true identity from the get-go. What do you not get
I wouldn’t say he knew. At least purely canonically, we can’t say, but even just in theory, V was suspicious the whole time. Dante didn’t really believe anything he said in the beginning until he saw Urizen for himself, it’s stated in the game itself, and after seeing V’s actions throughout the rest of the game, he probably started having a hunch that something was up. Hearing what V said before stabbing the cane through Urizen quite probably made it all click. It’s quite probable that he didn’t really know up until then, even if he had hunches
Sin 134: that actually motivated me to fight Vergil using only one style, like the old good times
I like using trickster against him
Gcn doesn't see Vergils Taunt as a wacky wahoo pizza man for special edition
THATS ENOUGH
[SLASH]
_DISCO CLASSICAL MUSIC IN THE DISTANCE_
I think that was a reference to a youtubers' video on dmc5, it was literally called "wacky woohoo pizza delivery man"
@@ayaxmcgill635 Yung maestro's 'Wacky Woohoo Pizza Man Adventures'
I see your like the “DMCmods” community
Maybe it was the mods messing with the game. I played the PlayStation version and I had no problems beating Cerberus.
@@KoPLeaderKiactu The ones he uses seems to be only visual mods. So I think it is a situation of just being invulnerable when the final hit of JCE went off.
@@xRidlay probably why Dante lost his hair in that one cutscene
Vergil: Don't move!
Dante: If you insist. *Royal guards him *
27:09
How vergil came back is actually explained out of game. Basically in a manga, Dante had faced off with the Demon Balrog, (the devil arm dante starts with in 5 thats similar to Gilgamesh and Beowulf) Balrog had used a small piece of Yamato to do that thing vergil does to manifest into the human world. Dante however killed Balrog, but that piece ended up being found by Vergil, who was crumbling to pieces due to being nearly destroyed as Nelo Angelo (vergil had reformed after Mundus was killed/banished by Dante)
Vergil used that shard to bring himself to the human world. Track down Nero, rip his arm off to get Yamato back, and did the ritual that made V and Urizen come to be.
30:40 Hold up, you're removing ONLY one sin for that awesome scene?! That deserves at least 20 sins removed
This video better be him saying " Literally nothing" followed by 46 minutes of Devil Trigger
Exactly what it is 😂
Hey...Devil trigger is a good song man
With an interlude of Nero screaming "F**k you!" and Devil Trigger switching into Silver Bullet
@@thegoldenbro78 I think you missed the point buddy he meant that the video is 46 minutes of awesomeness
I'm glad that someone doesn't hold back on saying bad things about a game franchise that they actually love. If this is someone that loves the game and wants views, they wouldn't want to say anything bad about it. Then again this is Gaming sins so, makes sense.
But like he said only 3 or 4 bad things most of the sins are obviously comical..... Actual criticism was very scarce in this one.... Then again he's a fan so obvious he wouldn't be able to see too much wrong with something he loves so much *shrug*
@@ameladaptivedaydreamer949 Actual criticism wasn’t scarce in this one, it is present throughout the video.
@@CoolDude5633554 Well than please point it to me cause I didn't say it just because "I'm a hater" after all I REALLY love his content. But I honestly failed to see THAT much criticism (and the key word is scarce I didn't say it had none), there was more jokes than jokes that were ACTUAL criticism.
Just look at any time he points out a problem in the story meladaptive.
Plenty of people do that.
37:00 I also said "he was not in your way..." when I saw that scene in my first playthrough
He is back with more sins to count.
That sounds like an actual badass line that should be used.
He's better than cinema sins
Back from the jaws of oblivion
@@Drunken_Houdini hell yeah he is
Where was he at for this time
35:32- If this were true, hell would be just an empty dimension right now
Pretty much
XD
Everyone would be gone except them, doom slayer and mundus
Devil may cry will be more like Devil May Die
33:46 this game has a feature that I name fake damage. It depletes the enemy’s health bar but it can’t kill until the last hit of the move you can take judgment and sword masacarbe (don’t remember how to spell it) that only the last move in the combo can actually kill an enemy
About that King Cerberus damage part : Judgement works like Dance Macabre where even if it could kill the enemy, his health remains at 1 until the end so you can finish him off with the last hit of the combo. You just got unlucky because Cerberus went invulnerable just as the last hit connected.
Nope,I've had the same glitch happen to me while outside sin DT,and had the same "no health left" glitch in the golliath fight. If you don't belive me,watch the DMC 5 streams I have up on my twitch,if you think Im just self promoting,dont.
Gaysiegelord is the username,BTW
@@gaysiegelord yeah same thing happened to me and I didn't even use DT nor SDT to finish him off
Bro, in the opening when V says "Get stronger, there's nothing you can do!" the enemies that attacked the civilians are literally the weakest enemies in the game.
What you didn't remove a sin when Dante say's jackpot come on man. At least that scene deserve every sin remove from your sin tally count
No sin for the fact that Nero didnt realise that Dante and Vergil were family despite of the fact that people mentioned several times during DMC 4 and 5 that he had the blood of Sparda?
Or that Vergil didnt know Nero was his son?. Yes, the guy who had his sword and looked more like him than his twin brother....
I think the reason dante wasn't found as a kid is because his demonic power was dormant while vergils was activated so he probably attracted the demons towards him cloaking dante in a way
21:18 "GCN gave DMC5 such a modding that Dante lost all his hair." Yeah, that one's 100% on you buddy. Normal, unmodded costumes have no problem here.
And the modder messed up the Dante dirt and mid dirt files. Most of those mods got broken by the Vergil update
A joke man. Just a joke.
@@THEdudeproductions we know when GCN is telling a joke sin. He doesn't play them extremely straight like he did for that sin. We don't do that cinemasins bullshit here. "I can just say its a joke when someone points its wrong."
ruclips.net/video/SL3_EZJwI88/видео.html
@@xacmashe3852 tbh, these entire videos are 99% jokes. GNC shits on DMC 4 for like the entire video but halfway through literally says some shit like “thats why this game is one of my favorites of all time”. The only 100% serious one of these is DmC: Devil May Cry lmao
I feel like I had a fake memory because I remember this coming out last year.
Yes as game in New year then got deleted
A mini-gameplay he did.
Mar 08, 2019 It did.
31:40
The fact this wasn't 3 sins was a missed opportunity.
GCN's detail for DMC5 is probably the best video I've seen him do. He talks about this game with passion. - awesome. thank you I wanted to see your reaction/view on this game and it doesn't disappoint. thanks for this fantastic video. *thumbs up*
Everything wrong with DMC5: nothing.
The pacing is off, and the environment gets a little repetitive.
The fact they could not get all the additional lore in is forgivable, Imo, because it would have broken the pacing entirely.
I like that it is available as separate media, myself.
But what it truly wanted to do, it did ssstylishly.
The ending felt rushed, again. Nero gets an eleventh hour power and swoops in to unrightfully claim the win at the end just like in 4 despite being a little boy and picking on weak demons but getting his ass beat when it came to the big bad just like in 4. Nero didn't surpass anyone or get any closer to being MC material. They power creeped Dante and Vergil up to ludicrous heights that Nero couldn't possibly reasonably reach within a single game, especially how he legit just kept getting carried (literally and figuratively) throughout the whole campaign up until the literal last 10 minutes.
If they can do the stakes, pacing, and development in 6 right, he can be Dantes replacement, but he didnt grow any in my eyes.
@@alastor8091 Hell, even gameplay wise he only grew about 50%
He has the exact same moveset as 4 for Red Queen
@@DeeMulaah no He has 3 more moves, have you even Played the game?
Not to mention his rev Mechanic and his New Arms that are a total game changer?
@@kimmedavid Oh wow, 3 new moves, underwhelming when you have two other characters with multiple weapons
Rev Mechanic was in 4
And why the hell are you mentioning the arms when I specifically stated RED QUEEN
44:20 - the menu screen moments don't resemble the story moments. There's a moment of seeing both V and Virgil there, even though they're technically the same person.
To answer your sin about Sin 111, judgement does "Fake" damage (it'll deal damage, but not kill) until the final hit, similar to other multi hit moves such as million stab or dance macabre. The final hit, unfortunately was during cerberus' invulnerability. You just got a 6 foot share of bad luck.
33:37 most of the attacks in judgment do not do "kill damage", they deplete the enemies health but dont lower it to 0, the only part of it that does do kill damage is the last shockwave, which cerberus was invincible during.
after playing the special edition last night, Vergil's version of Mission 20 is the best especially the theme.
So how does it work playing as Vergil now? Do you play all 20 missions as him? Or when do you start playing as him?
@@victoriaaranda7690 Same as 3/4, all missions are as Vergil
@@victoriaaranda7690 yeah but you actually got a Dante boss fight for mission 19 and 20 and not just red vergil.
The game isn't out til the 19th you're welcome and the physical copy comes in December so you haven't played anything
@@TheFallenSith i dont know if you knew this but people who have ps5 and xbox series x got it since november 12
You have to read William Blake. Urizen = "Your Reason" / "Your reason for fighting" = Vergil.
that bald dante was probably a glitch.. ive never seen that before
I can imagine the conversation with Dante and Vergil in Nico's van.
Dante: Did I tell you how I met your son in the first place?
Vergil: No, but to humor you, tell me how you met.
Dante: We fought in a church where they worshiped dad, and I fought him, and he stabbed me with Rebellion.
Vergil smiling: Hmmm, he really is my son.
33:27
Fun fact! Dance macabre and judgement even though they do great damage,they cannot kill until the very last hit,meaning you can spam it all you want,but as long as you don't get the final hit it will NOT kill!
Trivia: Urizen has 35 eyes. Two where you would expect, 3 on the chin, 5 around the forehead and temples, 3 on each thigh, 6 on the back, one in the middle of the chest, 6 on the stomach (one on each and plate), 4 on the upper chest, and one on the front of each shoulder. Each is animated.
Good luck backstabbing the guy!
XD
@yoval keshet Capcom of course. They've made so many monsters covered in eyes you can't keep track of them all.
And if I was Dante, Urizen would've been stabbed in all of them.
@@LegendaryDarkKnight602 a perfect time for a million stabs
@@OrigamiPhoenix Imagine being Urizen, watching your lights go out one by one.
Surprised that there's no sin that they made Nero look a bit like Donte.
I mean...they didn't? They look pretty different. Nero's face model actually looks close to his DMC4's counterpart.
@@mithril5155 its the hair i think. And i said "a bit"
He looked like Dante in DMC4, in this he clearly looks like his gd daddy.
Don't forget that Dante and Vergil are twins.. so of course they gonna be a bit similar
And just like cinema sins, they make anything a sin 😔
Isn't it explained that there are naturally occurring portals to hell in the DMC world?
Maybe. I remember in the Donte game there were areas that were closer to the demon world but I don't know the lore of the main games enough for clarification. It's probably clarified outside the games.
@@KalElinabox Dante had to escape from Hell in 2 in order for 4 to happen (and remember the Yamato was broken before Nero restored it).
@@KoPLeaderKiactu It's explained in Before the Nightmare (the prequel novel for 5) that holes between the demon and human worlds naturally pop up from time to time. As well as the fact that there are shards of Yamato that weren't with the rest of the blade when Nero restored it. One such shard was in the possession of Balrog and he was able to use it to travel to the human world where Dante destroyed it by sacrificing the original Cerberus Devil Arm.
Well, somebody call Doomguy
@@quisetell wait so how could the Yamato have been reformed in 4 if the order didn't have all of the pieces?
I've had the user name "Dr Faust" so long and have been called it for so long in streams, that I sometimes think when someone says it they mean me instead of the ingame weapon for a second.
About smoking, the creator of DMC said that Dante is his idea of the epitome of cool. And that one of the factors of being cool is to not smoke, which is why Dante doesn't smoke.
38:40 Wait hang on, do those 3 actually change depending on how much you leveled them up with V? I suddenly feel happy I didn't upgrade V that much.
i maxed him in my first playthrough before that fight 💀
@@thecatdragon589 Helpful tip: Those weird black structures in the arena have Green Orbs in them, if you break them the fight will be a bit more manageable... not easy, it still took me like 15 tries to get an S Rank on DMD, but it will help.
"It's like starting with Metal Gear Solid 4." 13 year old me just withered a bit because that's what I did
I started out with 5
Dear god I’ve never been more confused.
At least the storyline videos are accurate.
I started both the Mass Effect series and the Uncharted series in reverse from the third title of each. I did the same thing with the Bad Company games.
It’s ok buddy. I started with Revengense
@@thirdeye9698 Dang you essentially got dropped at the end of that timeline. Treat Every other game like a prequel. Yeah.... All six of them.
You guys need to play MGS. You are doing a massive dis service not playing one of the best game series in history. And it’s so damn epic.
Tfw an outfit mod bugs out and makes a character's hair commit the nonexistence.
Great video but so far I just have a couple nitpicks. One the whole secret passage way needing blood to activate it was never stated to the case if anything it could be water and Dante just used blood (a form of fluid just like water) because due to the Qliphoth there was a lot of it and no water because tree probably destroyed the city's water supply. I just assumed Sparda used water because the blood Dante used was from the Qliphoth which was never there before.
Two Dante probably sensed Trish was inside Cavaliere. V also knew Trish was inside Cavaliere because he said "I know who you really are" and he promised to be gentle because he didn't want to harm Trish in the process. Nero was able to sense Malphas as he approached her and he was devoid of demon power at that point. So its pretty easy to believe that Dante could've sensed Trish inside Cavaliere.
Three it may be due to how Trish worded her dialogue and I guess its a sin on the localizers/dialogue writers but what Trish meant about Urizen not being a demon was that due to her being from the Underworld and knowing so much about it she never in all her life ever heard about Urizen and he came out of nowhereso he can't be from the Underworld. Which could be why she questioned if he was a demon. Trish probably should've said "Urizen is no demon I ever heard of".
Four while I do get where you're coming from with the sin about Cavaliere R being DLC exclusive so no form of DLC weapons is okay in your books? Say like we get a weapon DLC down the line that adds new weapons like Agni and Rudra or whatever or a new form of Balrog or another Devil Breaker with new features and moves. It isn't like Cavaliere R where its available on launch but added much later after launch. Also I'm surprised that you left out the DLC Devil Breakers in this sin and chose to only focus on Cavaliere R.
Five as for why Dante never mentioned the whole Eva thing to Vergil. It could in part be due to the fact when Dante landed in the illusion room he then realized that was what this was all about. DMC3 Dante was really young and reckless and really only wanted to fight Vergil so he never saw the big picture until it was too late. Dante spent most of DMC3 just wanting to kick Vergil's ass for fun not really wanting to reason with him and even ignoring his lineage. It was at the end he matured and wised up a bit. Dante ultimately changes at the end and decides that the best course of action would be having to kill Vergil and not reason with him because deep inside he still wanted to fight Vergil because in Lady's own words they derived a twisted pleasure from it. Basically what I'm saying is Dante is bit too immature (even at the end) to want to reason with Vergil and explain the full story nor was he aware that was why Vergil turned evil. If anything at the of DMC3 Dante assumed Vergil is doing all of this so he can be like Sparda.
Six Dante knew V was also Vergil all along as well. He even stated right before stabbing himself with Rebellion that Yamato could separate man from Devil. So where would Dante assume his human side would go? He recognized the book V was holding, the way they talked to each other in the graveyard scene is also suspect, and when Trish told Dante V told her everything it was clear Trish knew Dante as well. Dante let V deal the final blow because V is also his brother and wanted to honor his human side's dying wish (he probably assumed since he was the human side he would want to do the right thing) and for all we know Dante thought it would be funny in a cosmic sort of way if Vergil's power hungry demon side is taken out by his frail, weak human side.
43:24
me:"WHEEZING"
also me:dies of laughter .
"Alright, time to head to bed."
*GamingSins: Everything Wrong With Devil May Cry 5*
"Aw shit"
Here we go again
I was about to sleep myself, then I saw the video and was like aw hell what does he have to say about this beautiful game
He's back. I guess you could say he's "the storm that is approaching." No? Anyone? I'll see myself out
That was hella corny but I like your comment because I chuckled a little.
Society has progressed past the need for Bury the Light memes
Don't feel bad, I've made my share of "hold my devil trigger" jokes myself, we're all goofy here
@@doncinati7644 Vergil: my song has the most memes
Nero: hold my devil trigger
@@ayaxmcgill635 Nero taunting: whatchu say?
23:08 "Dante, you have no idea how much I missed you"... Hey that's my line
can we just stop and appreciate how dante can easily deflect vergil's jce despite it being possibly his most powerful non sdt move
The fact the end cutscene of Vergil and Dante in the underworld didn't get sins removed.... is a sin.
"I don't think the RE engine is powerful enough to render that much tickness"
Oh boosh. It has been able to. ON WEAKER HARDWARE!
Also the end credits of DMC4 and 5.
@@LegendaryDarkKnight602 but isn't DMC 4 based on the MT Framework engine?
I love how every royal guard he does in m19 it removes a sin
I've been playing this series from Dmc 1 and I swear, other devs should learn how to make a stylized game with so much perfection. I have fell in love with the game ever since Dmc 3 came out.
Now that's a way to return. Good job. Also that reference to Bleach about Ichigo and his true Bankai is so on-point.
Edit: Added reference about Bleach.
Biggest Sin of this game: Making DMC: Devil May Cry look like crap.
JK, and welcome back!
@White-Van Helsing ...except deep, obscure tech does not constitute better gameplay. 4 has some of the most annoying enemies, and is an unfinished game.
@White-Van Helsing
See. Arguing that the pacing is off in DMC5 is legit. And the environment does get stale, after a while.
But V being boring is more of an opinion, with which I severely disagree on higher difficulties, while DMC4's enemy designs are as unfinished as the game itself. The latter is a fact.
Mods are also not an argument. Too many do not play on PC. I myself do, but mods that fix core issues do not change that the game still has these issues.
This is not Skyrim, where mods actually carry the entire game.
@White-Van Helsing
3 is much deeper than DmC in every respect.
You have to admit that DmC had the best level designs tho. It's combat was pretty good as well considering it was different (the combat, not the style grading)
@@hououinkyouma3864
The "fixed" version of DmC does have overall better gameplay.
But that doesn't mean much, considering how old and impactful DMC3 is. And, tbh, I severely dislike the DmC fighting aesthetics and visuals. They look...shady.
In every other aspect, excluding camera issues and extreme, high-skill gameplay, DMC3 wins.
The latter aspect is not relevant to 99,7% of the player base, in the first place.
@32:30 On this point, I think this only works if they were actual dogs, not "dog-like" demons. It's worth noting that both King Cerberus and OG Cerberus feel insulted when Dante refers to them as "dogs." I'm assuming that demons classify each other as belonging to different "tribes." If both Cerberus identify as demons, then King Cerberus calling other Cerberuses as belonging to a "tribe" is accurate.
You are such a great fan of this series that this video is mostly compliments and popular fan memes.
Please actually get around to sinning a kingdom hearts game. I think any fan of the series knows it’s riddled with shit to make fun of.
check out Dartigan's videos on it. Man sinned 1-3
Oh but it would also b amazing to see him drool over the last boss fight in 2
What about Charrii5 he almost sinned the whole damn series
Keep your Kingdom Hearts buffoonery out of my DMC.
Finally, a game I'm ready for you to tear apart, Marvel's Avengers. To me, as a Marvel fan, this game was a major disappointment.
I don’t think Marvel Avengers is worth sinning to be honest.
@@nadirmarshall4059 To be fair, GCN did sin Star Wars Battlefront 2, which was way worse
@@Ori_Kohav no need to make the same mistake twice . I’d rather have them sin Darksiders 2 which is a much better choice to be discussing right now.
There's no point, the game is just too depressing to play
@@nadirmarshall4059 I’d love to see him sin Darksiders III, if for no other reason than to see his reaction to Fury calling out the Rule of Three cliché.
Actually the reason why you didn’t kill king Cerberus with judgement is because the attacks in judgment cannot fully kill any enemy, it leaves them at one hp until the final blast of judgment hits, Cerberus can still do his transformation even if judgment is being used. So that’s why you didn’t kill him with judgment
and you will accept this ending to a boss fight
Oh how I have missed these videos glad to see a new one
"colored".....glad to see gcn back but that one was wierd lol.
That came out of nowhere lol
That word alone is a sin.
Dont mind me Im just waiting for him to bash Marvels Avengers, MK11, and Call Of Duty Cold War
Oh BOI I can't WAIT for Avengers' sin count 😂
@@acesenpai6971 same bro😂
I am excited for his mk11 video he butcher mk10 before can't wait
19:08 The fact that you did not say "The devil is indeed in the details" frustrates me more than it should.
I Spit my coffee when see "DEADWEIGHT"
thought you gonna say "JACKPOT" in the end.
Nice one. xD
Ok, so I doubled checked on Patty's age and no. Patty is supposed to be around 8 to 10. TAS happens maybe a year after DMC1, meaning she is some 3 years younger than Nero, who was born sometime around DMC 3. DMC 2 happens somtime after DMC 1 and the novel Before the Nightmare says that the events of the second game happened 10 years ago. So if DMC takes place close to TAS, that would make Patty's age 8 at the time. Nero is arround 16 to 18 durring the events of DMC 4, which happened 5 years before DMC V, meaning during TAS he would have been somewhere between 11 and 13, having being born arround 10 years before DMC 1, the rough aproximate would be correct.
Even so, there are no oficial ages in the DMC universe since they retcon the story every few years.
Yep! Her age checks out for DMC5
Meh. Dante is 19 in 3 and 28 in 1. He’s almost 40 in 4 when Nero is 19 and Nero is 24 now. Dante’s 29 in the anime when she’s 10ish so it really doesn’t add up. Nero and Patty are actually about the same age
@@Lynchy626 Nero is 16-17 en 4, I just checked the Deadly Fortune novel written by bingo Morihashi, the guy who's wtitten most DMC stuff since DMC3.
So it still checks out.
@@crowhogan6854 The actual game says 19
@@Lynchy626 where? I just put the game on and went through all the files and couldn't find any mention of his age.
*Seeing The Title*
Me: yes yes yes YES!
Vergil doing JCE: UR nightmare begins here!
Dante with Royal Guard: Are you sure about that?
Wait why did you sin Dante's hair being gone when you are using a costume mod. not the games fault for what wasn't originally there.
Wow and it starts off with a wholesome no sins rant. Also V is the sexiest DMC character ever. *HIS VOICE.*
I’m not gay, but V just... you know
@@mr.weirdness5970 I do indeed know. Also, date him and you’ll get animals too.
"Don't worry, I'll be gentle" "Pin'em to the wall" "Return'th to the Underworld"
They did it, they turned edgy weaboo with sandals guy onto cool, all praise to them.
.....
Bruh...Dante exists my dude
The man, the myth, the legend; Gaming Sins has returned to us!
Eh, Dartigan is better imo
@@RileyJ3866 We all got our preferences
@@RileyJ3866 heh, but I stand with GCN tho
These alternate costumes are honestly amazing
They're not alternate costumes it's a mod
I think something that would help the Virgil fight is if he had his mirage edge and Beowulf. For story reasons he can't have Beowulf, but they could totally do an update to give him mirage edge.
The visions of v manga has some great parts like how we see v form a v sound with his mouth in the manga it shows him saying vergil and Dante gets proper pissed
This game is such a masterpiece the only thing that keeps it from being godly is the microtransactions.
I mean, someone at the team heard about them and said "fuck it, add a weapon that gives orbs", and then Dr. Faust was born.
@White-Van Helsing It was just a joke lmao, I know
Ehhh
this type of microtransaction isn't bad
It's only there for people who are impatient
It's not an extremely long grind to achieve the same goal
The way I see it is this:
Capcom: makes Faust but also puts in MT
The person playing DMC5
1. Are you gonna farm da orbs?
2. Are you gonna be a lazy pos
Devs: there will b hidden weapons like in dmc 3
Yeah, hidden behind paywalls, pasta breaker, sweet surrender, alt gerbera, caveliere R, all hidden behind paywalls or the pre order
I'm late saying this, but regarding the King Cerberus one.
Judgment is an attack that deals massive damage. However, enemies can not be killed until the final blast. An enemy that has a harder time being stunned can still use abilities, albeit to no effect. So if an enemy uses an invincibility attack prior to the final blast of Judgment, and it doesn't end before the final blast, they ultimately survive with 0 health.
Still a sin regardless. But that's my half-assed explanation to it