Aye the lord of loot got loot on his mind. What were you expecting. More importantly we should be talking about how during this whole explanation he's sipping on a caramel chai quadshot iced coffee like the cool new age bigwig tech company CEO checking in on the peasants.
I'm honestly surprised it took so long for the concept of a "looter shooter" to take off like it has. The earliest version of this sort of PvP/Looting I can think of is the wilderness in RuneScape... And even back then it was hugely popular, so much so the game practically died when it got removed. Edit: He literally talked about this 30 seconds after my comment lol.
As competitive games become more mirco managy because of the live service tag. Smaller genres will rise. Calling it small is a blanket statement. Its been popping for years
I just want to say I think this type of videos suits your style of communication so well. Information, goofyness, and genuine excitement about the topic. Good work sir
Yeah these games are under the Extraction genre not Looter Shooter like you said Destiny and Borderlands are Looter Shooters with Rogue-like aspects while Diablo is a Hack & Slash Rogue-Like
Aqua... you will forever have my love for mentioning Asheron's Call. It's hands down one of my favorite games ever and my first MMO. The first day I played that game, I played it for 48 hours straight. The fact that you could make whatever character you wanted by choosing the skills made it amazing, and then they released HOUSING, I cried.
So glad to see you venture into these types of videos, you're honestly a great commentator/entertainer and you bring up some great points why this genre is the wave now! Keep up the great work, look forward to seeing mroe of these kinds of videos.
@AquaFPS I like the way you tell stories / describe the games. No fluff, real experiences. It would be cool to get a monthly recap series of games that month(s). Something to look forward to every month. Maybe you and your dudes get together, have some beer and do a show on it?
The division got me into the looter shooter genre. Currently enjoying the division 2 on my PS5 . I did enjoy borderlands 2, but the world of division 1&2 are incredible dense. Love the amount of detail. Alot of times I'll just patrol and it's very ingaging, not too many dull moments. I enjoy that I'll be taking on a group of enemies and before you know it, a different enemy faction patrol will be walking in the vicinity and BAMM! all hell breaks loose LOL. Also love the 3rd person view(didn't like it at first since I came from first person shooters) because being able to see my character wearing the gear I looted is satisfying. The fact that every obstacle you see in game, your able to take cover giving a more immersing experience. Running and gunning in call of duty, battlefield and borderlands are fun, but I found myself having a better time having to take cover from gunfire, especially in the heroic world tier.
The big thing Extraction shooters need is an endgame. As it stands right now you get to the top of the power curve and either sit there stomping on pubbies until everyone is bored or 'Prestige' for little to no real benefit. Give me something meaningful to do with all of these giant kits I now have access to!
exactly - BSG had it right with the 1st version of Tarkov called "Contract Wars" where you would get a Black Division token that could be used on unique perks and upgrades/guns. sorta like the prestige token from the earlier COD's.
Nice analysis, Aqua. I really, REALLY want to like extraction shooters, but I find that there's a few flaws I can't get past. Firstly, the zero-to-hero aspect. Joining a game like this immediately puts you at massive disadvantages, since your competition not only has a better understanding of the game's mechanics, but ALSO has better armor than you, better ammo than you, and 23 attachments on their gun and already knows every angle to peek at you from to doink you before you even realize they exist. I feel like some kind of level-based matchmaking is in order, or better yet, make the beginning zones NPC only with low-tier loot, which would give new players a real chance to get acclimated to the tools of the trade without some dirty extract camper or level 100 professional rat hiding in a corner doming them. Hell, I've been playing the SPTarkov mod for a couple of weeks now and I haven't enjoyed the game more. I still suck at the game, but it feels a lot more fair to me
I built my first ever PC this year and it was just from watching you play Tarkov but mainly Marauders which caused me to want to play them! Thanks Aqua!
looks like general sams videos now, but the cut turns my stomach. all in all would smash 5/10, like medium warm soup. tasty but the fat started to thicken up so its disgusting anyway but your hangover forces you to take these salts. aqua is like a medium warm soup on a hangover day. appreciated any time, necessary, but sometimes somehow gross. loving it.
DMZ needs something to work towards with the exfils - the guns aint enough when we can have whatever we want right there with the insured slot. Gotta have like multi-million dollar cases to splurge on that adds some unique benefit or something with the stash - just looting guns is basically warzone mode.
Aqua..In my experience he first inception of this genre was Wolrd War Z, which had to change its name due to the movie and became infestation survivor stories.. It then became Aftermath, which they roped in G A romero's son or some shit to add some credence top the game and it WAS a killer game.. Then they released Shattered skies, same concept, but it wasn't good. then and I am pretty sure he is involved Sergay Titov released this game.
When i think "looter shooter" i lean more towards games like borderlands and destiny, I think the tarkovs of the world do have looting and shooting elements (i mean thats the whole point of them) but they deviate from what i think would be a traditional looter shooter experience. I really like the idea of considering them like a sub genre within the larger scope that is looter shooters, calling them extraction shooters or extraction looters feels a bit more appropriate. great video mr fps
TL;DR Thanks for the Vid man. Looter shooters are great, hope more come out in the future, Tarkov is the best, but DMZ at is doing it for me. DMZ need to fix some stuff. Mechanic task DMZ, if you know, you know. I've been exactly like you man. I dropped 700 hours into Rust within 2 months and then got to Tarkov and got absolutely hooked. Got wayy more hours in Tarkov than I'm proud toa admit. But Tarkov didn't do it for me this wipe and I almost felt guilty for not playing. Been looking forward to DMZ and I gotta say it's alot of fun got a bunch of hours in already. It's nothing like Tarkov, gear is way to easy to get, but atleast you have tasks and doing stuff in it gives rewards for cod. DMZ is a good try but they need to do alot with it. Would aslo be good to have an actual money systme in it. Because you just lose all your money, and the tier 4 tasks are so stupid some of them puts tarkov tasks to shame. Bring 24 Blow tourches, 20 jumper cables and some more stuff to a drop of point. with no flea market or any way to gather items and bring them in together. So you have to find them same raid and deliver it. Killing people and taking the weapon case is fun, but dying is no big deal because good loot is so accessable. We're looting the airport everytime, or just using the current money glitch (WHICH I HOPE THEY PATCH). DMZ has so much potential, not to compete with tarkov in that matter, but to be an ease into the looter shooter genre. And God Do I hope they tweak it abit to be a bit more... advanced. Not like tarkov, but a good stash system and actually having money be worth something is a good thing. Cuz right now I 1v3 easy because I don't care if I die. I really hope the future bring some good looter shooters with them, because so far. Tarkov, the cycle and DMZ are 3 for 3 of what I've tested. Mauraders is probably cool and all but I'm not that into Sci-fi. Thanks for the video man.
I would absolutely love to see aqua play Ark its got everything he likes in these types of games and has fucking dinosaurs you can utilise as part of your progression, it defiantly gets your heart pumping when you run into a pack of raptors or a giant t-rex when you first start.
I really been enjoying marauders really fun game so far I tried tarkov very difficult game which there is nothing wrong with that but I do enjoy it might give it a try again on the next wipe but yeah I have been playing marauders and enjoy every min of it
Should check out ascension wow. Private server for wow. Can’t play on streams but in free time if you want, basically a wow but every 2 levels you get a random ability, from any class. And there’s also a pvp mode where u can loot other peoples gear. It’s pretty cool to experience but gets kinda “boring” after a bit But so much to do and test if you’re really willing.
if they can make them more arcade-y and less realistic, maybe less punishing, the genre would skyrocket. the only reason i dont play tarkov, the cycle, marauders, the hunt etc is because if i make one misstep it crushes all of my morale. i understand the risk is all part of the appeal, but it's also the reason a lot of people wont play the genre.
Aqua YOU HAVE TO TRY THIS GAME; Wasted (Made by Adult Swim). ITS FANTASTIC. You'll love it. Promise. Its hilarious, looter shooter, roguelike. It's pretty fucking hard, and just totally rad.
Tarkov makes cod blush. I actually started with dmz and moved to tarkov. Then, found myself instantly immersed by intricacies of the game. After playing tarkov, cod dmz is but a shallow puddle compared to the ocean tarkov is.
Asheron's Call.. man, farming Banderlings and Lugians. Putting together crossbow gank squads. It makes my penis oscillate like Prince Harry's to think of how amazing that game was.
Copious amounts of DMZ has made me want to reinstall Division 2, and also maybe even try the first one on my Steamdeck. Reminded me of how good those games were. Really excited to see how DMZ evolves
ok, ok. EXTRACTION shooter. just pretend i was saying that the whole time. hope you enjoy the video :)
It’s okay dad
You should do a General Sam and double down on the wrong term to annoy people.
Aye the lord of loot got loot on his mind. What were you expecting. More importantly we should be talking about how during this whole explanation he's sipping on a caramel chai quadshot iced coffee like the cool new age bigwig tech company CEO checking in on the peasants.
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I'm honestly surprised it took so long for the concept of a "looter shooter" to take off like it has. The earliest version of this sort of PvP/Looting I can think of is the wilderness in RuneScape... And even back then it was hugely popular, so much so the game practically died when it got removed.
Edit: He literally talked about this 30 seconds after my comment lol.
The term you're looking for is extraction shooter. Looter shooter exist for decades.
It's because of the complexity to make something like that and especially to make it good.
As competitive games become more mirco managy because of the live service tag. Smaller genres will rise. Calling it small is a blanket statement. Its been popping for years
straight up pking at the grand exchange as we speak
@@weebsarecringe2102 shush
I just want to say I think this type of videos suits your style of communication so well. Information, goofyness, and genuine excitement about the topic. Good work sir
I consider games like these "Extraction Shooters". Looter shooters feel like Destiny, Borderlands, and Diablo(not really a shooter, but tons of loot)
Extraction Looters in the case of Dark and Darker.
And the Division 1 & 2, but arguably D1 had a much better PvP loot survival mode
Yeah these games are under the Extraction genre not Looter Shooter like you said Destiny and Borderlands are Looter Shooters with Rogue-like aspects while Diablo is a Hack & Slash Rogue-Like
ROCK AND STONE!
Agreed
Aqua... you will forever have my love for mentioning Asheron's Call. It's hands down one of my favorite games ever and my first MMO. The first day I played that game, I played it for 48 hours straight. The fact that you could make whatever character you wanted by choosing the skills made it amazing, and then they released HOUSING, I cried.
Looter shooter is the concept of "Finders Keepers Losers weepers" dialed up to the max
Love your videos appreciate you giving me something to do while I sit at work with nothing to do
thats what im here for gamer
AquaFPS really made this video as a middle school powerPoint presentation about your hobbies. Love ya Aqua
So glad to see you venture into these types of videos, you're honestly a great commentator/entertainer and you bring up some great points why this genre is the wave now!
Keep up the great work, look forward to seeing mroe of these kinds of videos.
Love the "off the top of the dome" style, hearing your passion leak out all over the place. Great vid, would love to see more like this
I could get on board with these new form videos 🤔
You already mastered the art of moving your hands around! The world is yours, Aqua
Eve Online was my original "looter shooter" the risk vs reward aspect being played out on a grand scale is so epic.
@AquaFPS I like the way you tell stories / describe the games. No fluff, real experiences. It would be cool to get a monthly recap series of games that month(s). Something to look forward to every month. Maybe you and your dudes get together, have some beer and do a show on it?
This would be sick! I love the perspective that Aqua puts on games
This is a great format for you aqua, really. Great job dude
Aqua said "Hmm Nakey Jakey only puts out like one video a year. Maybe I can fill that void?" LUL
The division got me into the looter shooter genre. Currently enjoying the division 2 on my PS5 . I did enjoy borderlands 2, but the world of division 1&2 are incredible dense. Love the amount of detail. Alot of times I'll just patrol and it's very ingaging, not too many dull moments. I enjoy that I'll be taking on a group of enemies and before you know it, a different enemy faction patrol will be walking in the vicinity and BAMM! all hell breaks loose LOL. Also love the 3rd person view(didn't like it at first since I came from first person shooters) because being able to see my character wearing the gear I looted is satisfying. The fact that every obstacle you see in game, your able to take cover giving a more immersing experience. Running and gunning in call of duty, battlefield and borderlands are fun, but I found myself having a better time having to take cover from gunfire, especially in the heroic world tier.
He means games where you lose the shit you earn, not shooters where you grind for 1 green item.
Love the division. I think 1 had a far better setting. Something about the snow and xmas deco everywhere that does it for me. I love 2 almost as much.
@@99Plastics There are parts in the division where that's true. Dark zones exist dude, shit goes hard as fuck
@@99Plastics hahaha
@@99Plastics The Dark Zone in Div1 is very much an extraction shooter, idk what you're yapping about
great analysis a gamer evolution and where these tides are taking us, we are all here for the ride!!!!
Great video my guy. Loved the new format and presentation.
Wow! besides the laughs, I got some serious analizying on cod dmz, MUCH APPRECIATED sir aqua
props from Italy
The Mario Kart music killed me 😂😂. And editing was fire. Really enjoyed the vid Aqua.
Thankful for you, Aqua. Loving my cult plushie.
Loved the video aqua! Please continue doing these in the future!!!
Loved your intro man, felt casual and real for sure!
The big thing Extraction shooters need is an endgame. As it stands right now you get to the top of the power curve and either sit there stomping on pubbies until everyone is bored or 'Prestige' for little to no real benefit. Give me something meaningful to do with all of these giant kits I now have access to!
exactly - BSG had it right with the 1st version of Tarkov called "Contract Wars" where you would get a Black Division token that could be used on unique perks and upgrades/guns.
sorta like the prestige token from the earlier COD's.
Nice analysis, Aqua. I really, REALLY want to like extraction shooters, but I find that there's a few flaws I can't get past.
Firstly, the zero-to-hero aspect. Joining a game like this immediately puts you at massive disadvantages, since your competition not only has a better understanding of the game's mechanics, but ALSO has better armor than you, better ammo than you, and 23 attachments on their gun and already knows every angle to peek at you from to doink you before you even realize they exist. I feel like some kind of level-based matchmaking is in order, or better yet, make the beginning zones NPC only with low-tier loot, which would give new players a real chance to get acclimated to the tools of the trade without some dirty extract camper or level 100 professional rat hiding in a corner doming them. Hell, I've been playing the SPTarkov mod for a couple of weeks now and I haven't enjoyed the game more. I still suck at the game, but it feels a lot more fair to me
These games are basically a mix of gambling and a fps. Perfect addiction combination.
I built my first ever PC this year and it was just from watching you play Tarkov but mainly Marauders which caused me to want to play them! Thanks Aqua!
Fr I bought a pc for looter shooters
This is an awesome video. There are so many callouts to the legends of the PvP genre.
Keep up the grind my good sir. 👍 godspeed and best of luck in all your endeavors, both in game and irl.
I enjoyed this video very much. Let me express my gratitude with this comment for the RUclips algorithm.
looks like general sams videos now, but the cut turns my stomach. all in all would smash 5/10, like medium warm soup. tasty but the fat started to thicken up so its disgusting anyway but your hangover forces you to take these salts. aqua is like a medium warm soup on a hangover day. appreciated any time, necessary, but sometimes somehow gross. loving it.
when I heard Aqua say "Rust" all I can think is "DO YOU WANNA WEAR COOL CLOTHES!?"
I was watching an old Aqua video and the add was… peepy. Nobody can escape him. He is all seeing and all knowing. God save us all.
Nicely put together man
Really enjoyed the video aqua :)
DMZ needs something to work towards with the exfils - the guns aint enough when we can have whatever we want right there with the insured slot.
Gotta have like multi-million dollar cases to splurge on that adds some unique benefit or something with the stash - just looting guns is basically warzone mode.
Love the format!
Aqua..In my experience he first inception of this genre was Wolrd War Z, which had to change its name due to the movie and became infestation survivor stories..
It then became Aftermath, which they roped in G A romero's son or some shit to add some credence top the game and it WAS a killer game..
Then they released Shattered skies, same concept, but it wasn't good.
then and I am pretty sure he is involved Sergay Titov released this game.
Seeing oblivion menus makes me violently nostalgic
something tells me aqua may have had sam take a look at the script before he filmed this. love the change in format.
Amazing video love that your trying new types of videos
I havent seen an aquafps video in so long, ive returned for the cutie patootie himself
Great video as always Aqua!
This just made me want to play Dark and Darker even more lol. December 16th is gonna be a fun day.
GOD I cannot wait for dark and darker to SCALE UPPPP massive character choices, massive maps, armies of players and more magic
I'm not sure if Ultima Online was the first full loot pvp game or not, but it was out way before Asheron's Call.
When i think "looter shooter" i lean more towards games like borderlands and destiny, I think the tarkovs of the world do have looting and shooting elements (i mean thats the whole point of them) but they deviate from what i think would be a traditional looter shooter experience. I really like the idea of considering them like a sub genre within the larger scope that is looter shooters, calling them extraction shooters or extraction looters feels a bit more appropriate. great video mr fps
ok extraction shooter, sure. just pretend im saying that throughout the video
@@AquaFPS that's totally exactly the words that came out of your mouth, 100% i must've been hearing things
Love this style of video!
Very well said Aqua.
Everquest had some PvP servers that allowed some looting. It was thrilling...
TL;DR Thanks for the Vid man. Looter shooters are great, hope more come out in the future, Tarkov is the best, but DMZ at is doing it for me. DMZ need to fix some stuff.
Mechanic task DMZ, if you know, you know.
I've been exactly like you man. I dropped 700 hours into Rust within 2 months and then got to Tarkov and got absolutely hooked. Got wayy more hours in Tarkov than I'm proud toa admit. But Tarkov didn't do it for me this wipe and I almost felt guilty for not playing. Been looking forward to DMZ and I gotta say it's alot of fun got a bunch of hours in already. It's nothing like Tarkov, gear is way to easy to get, but atleast you have tasks and doing stuff in it gives rewards for cod. DMZ is a good try but they need to do alot with it. Would aslo be good to have an actual money systme in it. Because you just lose all your money, and the tier 4 tasks are so stupid some of them puts tarkov tasks to shame. Bring 24 Blow tourches, 20 jumper cables and some more stuff to a drop of point. with no flea market or any way to gather items and bring them in together. So you have to find them same raid and deliver it. Killing people and taking the weapon case is fun, but dying is no big deal because good loot is so accessable. We're looting the airport everytime, or just using the current money glitch (WHICH I HOPE THEY PATCH). DMZ has so much potential, not to compete with tarkov in that matter, but to be an ease into the looter shooter genre. And God Do I hope they tweak it abit to be a bit more... advanced. Not like tarkov, but a good stash system and actually having money be worth something is a good thing. Cuz right now I 1v3 easy because I don't care if I die. I really hope the future bring some good looter shooters with them, because so far. Tarkov, the cycle and DMZ are 3 for 3 of what I've tested. Mauraders is probably cool and all but I'm not that into Sci-fi. Thanks for the video man.
Aqua's out here spitting facts. It's pretty unusual because he's usually just spitting.
I would absolutely love to see aqua play Ark its got everything he likes in these types of games and has fucking dinosaurs you can utilise as part of your progression, it defiantly gets your heart pumping when you run into a pack of raptors or a giant t-rex when you first start.
was the rust clips from stimpee?
more vids like this aqua please!!
I want Aqua to be my school teacher, I’ve learned so much in todays video.
Aqua looks like he would try to buy grapes from a lemonade stand
Aqua could probably sell me a completely inoperable car at full price and I'd still thank him for the opportunity.
whats the software which the GM uses for Critical Hole?
I think the more common name for this emerging genre is "Extraction shooter", "Looter Shooter" is already taken by games like Destiny or The Division.
agreed. Thats the most common name but I also kind of like "Loot & Scoot"
Are we pretending this genre wasn't given a name by reddit like, 2 months ago?
Tarkov is kind of a looter shooter with pvp tho
instant like, please MORE aqua
Oh boy a main channel video!
One of the best experiences like this was the survival mode in the first Division game. I wish they would’ve expanded on that.
This is like a book report written for extra credit.
Loved the video essay
This is the best commercial for extraction shooters that I've ever seen. Gonna download Cycle and terrorize shitters in DMZ now :)
Really enjoyed this :)
Holy piss boi man! I love this format. Like a review! Personality based. Informed opinion style. Psudo-Nakeyjakey
Aqua lookin like he's ready to replace Hugh Jackman as wolverine
what happened between 9:31 and 9:33 ? :D
Holy Cow a main channel video?
Did you edit this one Aqua, if so what program do you use to edit?
hark the umpire edited this one, but when i edit i use adobe premiere pro
@@AquaFPS thanks for the info I just remembered hearing you talk about editing a video recently.
I really been enjoying marauders really fun game so far I tried tarkov very difficult game which there is nothing wrong with that but I do enjoy it might give it a try again on the next wipe but yeah I have been playing marauders and enjoy every min of it
The risk of losing your stuff was what made Eve Online combat exciting too
knees and elbow in the same video? Your spoiling us
Should check out ascension wow. Private server for wow. Can’t play on streams but in free time if you want, basically a wow but every 2 levels you get a random ability, from any class. And there’s also a pvp mode where u can loot other peoples gear. It’s pretty cool to experience but gets kinda “boring” after a bit But so much to do and test if you’re really willing.
You should try Zero Sievert. Great Tarkov-like although only PvE
Brilliant!!! 🤌🏻
Wow. Elbows and knees in the same video!
No matter the game type, The Loot Lord remains on the throne.
written by: aquafps
directed by: aquafps
starring: aquafps
assistant to mr. fps: aquafps
lowly editor: harktheDM
Is this like a general sam video?
General sam style video but with aquas face!
There is a special thrill when you get a player to Rage Quit.
if they can make them more arcade-y and less realistic, maybe less punishing, the genre would skyrocket. the only reason i dont play tarkov, the cycle, marauders, the hunt etc is because if i make one misstep it crushes all of my morale. i understand the risk is all part of the appeal, but it's also the reason a lot of people wont play the genre.
Aqua YOU HAVE TO TRY THIS GAME; Wasted (Made by Adult Swim). ITS FANTASTIC. You'll love it. Promise. Its hilarious, looter shooter, roguelike. It's pretty fucking hard, and just totally rad.
Aqua got the Sam Bankman Fried look down.
Tarkov makes cod blush. I actually started with dmz and moved to tarkov. Then, found myself instantly immersed by intricacies of the game. After playing tarkov, cod dmz is but a shallow puddle compared to the ocean tarkov is.
Asheron's Call.. man, farming Banderlings and Lugians. Putting together crossbow gank squads. It makes my penis oscillate like Prince Harry's to think of how amazing that game was.
So your just doing generals sams thing now?
ok but why did he put a straw through that coffee if it already has a nitro lid
Amazing how Aqua still calls this the main channel
I like this game review kinda thing he's got a good mind for it
Borderlands 2 is my favorite game of all time. It's what brings me deeper into this genre
You should watch SovietWomble's essay on the Isle, you might understand the thrill described in this video!
Is this a General Aqua video I see??
You are a god among insects.
Copious amounts of DMZ has made me want to reinstall Division 2, and also maybe even try the first one on my Steamdeck. Reminded me of how good those games were. Really excited to see how DMZ evolves
@AquaFPS - “Fill Exfill” 😂
Let’s goooo!