that was the first track load I ever learned to run. I was 14 at the time and that thing seemed huge. You will have to be careful as those old thing are extremely heavy on the front with the motor and with a full bucket of dirt it will get stuck in a heart beat with those narrow track pads! if she ever starts to sink its time to just dump the bucket and use it to float yourself out. that's a heavy girl and it wont take much to bury it with all this rain. but on hard ground it will push the hinges off hell in 1st gear! oh yeah your legs will hurt after you run those brake clutches all day lol
I think all of the front motor highlifts you can stand on their noses pretty easy. Ran an 855 John Deere for a few years and owned one for a couple. Was always my favorite piece of equipment to run. The guy I worked for had push pans, self loaders, dozers, grander, backhoe but never owned excavators. Would have liked to have had the opportunity to run one of them. Only use a couple of mini's that I rented.
Your video isn't a waste of time. I get to watch you swap a motor out of some heavy equipment. this is good information. Now I'll know if I ever want to attempt to do the same job and what to watch out for ... I don't want to die doing stupid things either. So, you go first!
don't put the forestry bars on they get in the way just put the expanded metal around the cab and a good idea for that is drill and tap it to where you can take them on and off easy hope you have a good new year
The Cutting edge can be welded effectively with 7018... Repaired many over the years in my welding business.. when you make the first torch cut it will likely spring back in place.. bevel both sides and leave a small root opening. called a double V groove weld. one pass each side and it won't require an extra plate..
I agree......V groove both sides before welding then fill in the grooves.......also agree with heating it with a torch you'll likely get that dreaded PING as your welds pop!
Wes on 400* pre heat i agree but i have done alot of welding on cutting edges of large buckets.7018 just won't cut it get a box of 11018 they are alot closer to the steels hardness for the pre heat if you don't have a heat gun you can get heat pencils of different temps they will mark when the steel reaches the temp displayed on the pencil and finally you can slow the cooling rate by covering it top and bottom with just some common pink insulation top and bottom if you v it out good i see no need for the extra plate it may cause more trouble then good the cutting edge does need to flex on a bucket of that width hope this helps.
The motor is easy to come out you need to drop both belly pans the motor is coupled to the transmission with rubber pucks in between two drive flanges. There are shims under the motor mounts you have to be careful to note how many there are under each mount. The nose cone on your machine doesn't have the horns cast on to it for sweeps. The 955 I ran had forestry guarding on it.
Why didn't you pickle that old engine...two or three quarts if trans fluid and a quart of PB Blaster in a couple gallons of kerosene fuel. Fill it to the top and let it set for a month...then drain it and crank it over. You could probably sell it at that point...running. save that pickle mix run threw cheese cloth packed funnel and run it in your other diesels...it will clean them right up....
just wondering....did you try to turn the motor over yourself? Maybe pull the glow plugs and try in case it is hydro-locked? Thanks for all you do for your fans!! Ramble on!
Happy new year thanks for videos what plans for new year any new kit on farm bailer tractors what going on with combine sorry if people keep on about it love the combine videos
GE large diesel engines are taken back to the depot in either Erie or Grove City PA no matter if the engine grenaded and sent parts thru the side casing. They pay the freight also. There may be a Cat depot somewhere or aftermarket engine facility that wants the old core so they can sell a reman to somebody else.
the crack issue v it out press into place use 7018 ,8018 th or palco. 700 rod pre heat then weld the v alternating sides top bottom. then relieve by peening. reheating and bury it in floor dry to cool slowly or insulwool if available. cats factory steel is not your normal steel they had a saying built to be rebuilt
You would probably better off to take the bucket off and repair it then, it much easier to preheat. You should take off the dump cylinders makes makes life easier when you do the engine swap. If you can borrow an over head rolling derrick to lift the engines it also make the job easier and safer.
With the cost of fuel going down, I seriously doubt the price of scrap will ever skyrocket like it did some time ago. Yes I could be mistaken. Yet the reason it went up last time was from people like India and China making cheap cars that all their people could afford. The demand for steel shot up and there wasnt enough supply to meet the demand. That was then, this is now. With the cost of fuel in free fall, so are many other prices. Good for you to be able to get a replacement motor. Will you do a tear down of the old one to find out why it seized?? I look forward to the vids next week. Oh and happy new year to you and all the rest of you youtubers.
Hey Wes. Have not seen or heard a word about the 955L Cat. I can only guess you decided to move on from this project or someone gave you a offer you could not refuse. Just curious as to the final of what happened. Thanks
+onelonelyfarmer : Hey Wes, that's a sweet deal that you found a replacement engine for the 'ol girl so easily. As the saying goes, "Rather get lucky than be good, any day." LOL! Since scrap is so far down, perhaps you can talk them out of more of that parts Cat machine while you are picking up the engine? Might just be worthwhile. Anyhow... Happy New Year to you, Tim, and everyone else in the Pandy family, from Andy & Deb in upstate NY!
Old 13-18ton excavator with guillotine head would be the best solution in that kind of work. When you first get rid of all those trees and then fill the ditch up.
When welding the bucket, if it is hardened steel it won't hurt to pre heat the area. If there is a lot of carbon in it then when it heats fast and cools fast the iron ion release the carbon ions and make it brittle. I recommend (purely my opinion if I was doing it) grooving out the crack, pre heat the weld area to 400-450*f and welding with 7018 rod. It may take multiple passes so check the temp between welds and don't let it drop below 400. Get it welded up then heat it to 450 again immediately after welding and burry it in sand, put sand under it and a heavy layer over it to let it cool slowly. This should prevent brittleness and cracking. Things you'll need -$15 infrared thermometer -5# of 1/8" 7018 welding rods (KEEP DRY) -A lot of sand Any questions shoot me a message
kick ass project! i have a 215 cat excavator sitting in the backyard that i picked up for a joke of a price, might have to get ambitious and get her back together!
Have you ever checked out Fazzio's steel in Glassboro ? Ive heard they have a huge selection of surplus steel and construction epquipment. You can also check with them online. Ive only been to their site in Delaware...nice site for metal supplies at a reasonable price...including large size nuts and bolts.
hi wes ref loader on cat could you remove hoses from lift ram circuit and fit longer pipes .plug into a tractor and raise the loader up lock it safe and work on engine .done this in the past and saves hour of work . even buy adapter connectors if needed very cheep and borrow hoses of another machine far better than trying to lift it out of the way and safer
Farmers welding cracks me up. I don't know how many times I've been called out to a farmers place to fix something to find he tried to weld it and just fucked it up real bad.
cool project good time to clean it all up maybe some paint even on the cheap like rust primer and paint it's always nice to work on a clean rig and it will last longer
main thing is BE careful. around that loader frame even with the lock in place the older guys that I worked at McAllister machinery in Indiana didn't call the early track loaders widow makers for nothing put channel or angle iron on the cylinders for safety
That's a good deal get a running engine you don't know what's all wrong with your engine cat parts are hi as you know might be cheaper than fixing yours.
you getting crushed and killed wes would not be good for ratings cause then their wouldn't be onelonelyfarmer any more and all of your subscribers and your family would miss you. stay safe and have a happy new year
I bought a wreck once having been told the motor was seized and found it was ok and had a starter that had rusty solinoid and had stuck on blowing the armature apart in the housing. So check it all before you tear it apart. I know you would any how. thats just for everyone else.
If the fellow selling the engine has a 955 body he's planning to sell for scrap, perhaps it has a shovel in good condition that you could buy to replace the broken one on yours.
Hey Wes. So what are you mostly going to be using the dozer for? I see that you still have your pull type mower. Do you think you will ever be using it again?
I have not done any cutting edge welding in twenty years and then only with a stick welder but in those days cutting edge steel was so hard that it could only be welded in short stitches to prevent it from getting to hot and breaking out right beside the weld, I never happened to ask a real welder weather that problem could be alleviated by preheating and post heating the edge or if doing so would compromise the integrity of the edge itself or since I have never used one but have been told that wire feed welders don't create the heat like a stick welder the problem may not be as serious with a wire feed welder.
might be a smart idea go look over youre cat a little more closely before going over to pick up the good engine and see if any parts are broken worn or cracked on youre cat if you can wrench it of their old hulk it should be cheaper than buying it of ebay or simulair if youre able to buy it for little above the price of scrap
what michael owen said but pre heat it before you weld it put in a root pass grind out the top of the weld both sides and then a capping pass dress as nessary
When my Uncle allowed me to use his 450C John Deere crawler the first thing he told me was to be vigilant about watching for trees coming into the cab and impaling me. Said that to say the expanded metal around the work station is a great idea and even though the 450C had work station protection it wasn't uncommon for smaller tree limbs and trunks coming towards me as I worked. It sounds like you are really excited about the new Cat and I'm sure the rest of us can't wait to see smoke pluming out of the exhaust pipe. Daily updates are great and we appreciate the fact that you always try to accommodate us with them.
+jbmbanter or if by misfortune a branch finds its way up against a control lever, the pressure from the advancing loader will make the machine uncontrollable. That's why side screens whould be a good idea.
Good luck. I just fired up my old d6c after sitting for ten years. it went super well and proceeded to do some logging. All it needed was a couple new batteries. I didn't even drain the fuel.
that was the first track load I ever learned to run. I was 14 at the time and that thing seemed huge. You will have to be careful as those old thing are extremely heavy on the front with the motor and with a full bucket of dirt it will get stuck in a heart beat with those narrow track pads! if she ever starts to sink its time to just dump the bucket and use it to float yourself out. that's a heavy girl and it wont take much to bury it with all this rain. but on hard ground it will push the hinges off hell in 1st gear! oh yeah your legs will hurt after you run those brake clutches all day lol
+letsdig18
Good advice.
+letsdig18 lol... yup... my case 450 is the same way.. .small but heavy with little tracks
I think all of the front motor highlifts you can stand on their noses pretty easy. Ran an 855 John Deere for a few years and owned one for a couple. Was always my favorite piece of equipment to run. The guy I worked for had push pans, self loaders, dozers, grander, backhoe but never owned excavators. Would have liked to have had the opportunity to run one of them. Only use a couple of mini's that I rented.
Your video isn't a waste of time. I get to watch you swap a motor out of some heavy equipment. this is good information. Now I'll know if I ever want to attempt to do the same job and what to watch out for ... I don't want to die doing stupid things either. So, you go first!
Just a motor swap, out standing. Can't wait to see that baby come to life. Extra roops protection is a great idea, Check that seat belt twice buddy.
don't put the forestry bars on they get in the way just put the expanded metal around the cab and a good idea for that is drill and tap it to where you can take them on and off easy hope you have a good new year
you can use 11018 welding rods on the bucket, they are like 7018 except stronger for welding high tensile steel like lowboys and flatbeds.
The Cutting edge can be welded effectively with 7018... Repaired many over the years in my welding business.. when you make the first torch cut it will likely spring back in place.. bevel both sides and leave a small root opening. called a double V groove weld. one pass each side and it won't require an extra plate..
+Michael Owen
I agree with Michael, get it red hot with a torch when you go to weld it doesn't hurt either.
I agree......V groove both sides before welding then fill in the grooves.......also agree with heating it with a torch you'll likely get that dreaded PING as your welds pop!
Michael Owen un
Can't wait to see this beast up and running!! Happy New Year Dude!!!
Dang, man. That is quite the project! Happy new years!
Happy new year Wes & to Tim & rest of your family may it be a trouble maintenance free year for you
t.c. be safe , have fun cas life is short
wow, that engine find couldn't have worked out better. I'm looking forward to the engine swap vids for sure! Cheers.
Wes on 400* pre heat i agree but i have done alot of welding on cutting edges of large buckets.7018 just won't cut it get a box of 11018 they are alot closer to the steels hardness for the pre heat if you don't have a heat gun you can get heat pencils of different temps they will mark when the steel reaches the temp displayed on the pencil and finally you can slow the cooling rate by covering it top and bottom with just some common pink insulation top and bottom if you v it out good i see no need for the extra plate it may cause more trouble then good the cutting edge does need to flex on a bucket of that width hope this helps.
thanks for the videos and happy new year
No kidding...these scrap prices are killing me. My pile keeps getting bigger and bigger.
as its New Years eve will there be some wes pandy explosions to see??? haven't had any for a bit it would make a great opportunity..
What ever happened to the Cat 955 project?
Safety is always in my top 5 of priorities...👍
Welcome to OneLonelyFarmer, where safety is number one priority! Great find, Wes! Looking forward to seeing that behemoth move under is own re-power!
Wow.. Really? Personal insults from another commenter I don't know. You have a Happy New Year yourself.....
Just needed to know if David was trolling.. And he was.. Buh-bye Dave!
The motor is easy to come out you need to drop both belly pans the motor is coupled to the transmission with rubber pucks in between two drive flanges. There are shims under the motor mounts you have to be careful to note how many there are under each mount. The nose cone on your machine doesn't have the horns cast on to it for sweeps. The 955 I ran had forestry guarding on it.
Why didn't you pickle that old engine...two or three quarts if trans fluid and a quart of PB Blaster in a couple gallons of kerosene fuel. Fill it to the top and let it set for a month...then drain it and crank it over. You could probably sell it at that point...running. save that pickle mix run threw cheese cloth packed funnel and run it in your other diesels...it will clean them right up....
Happy new year Wes and Tim keep the great videos coming
just wondering....did you try to turn the motor over yourself? Maybe pull the glow plugs and try in case it is hydro-locked? Thanks for all you do for your fans!! Ramble on!
Should give her a paint job! It's just time and money no big deal right Tim
Yeah A-team it up Wes! Including the musical montage.
Happy new year thanks for videos what plans for new year any new kit on farm bailer tractors what going on with combine sorry if people keep on about it love the combine videos
Our cat has rocke crusher screens on it for saftey. I can do a video on it if you want to see if it would be good for you or not.
use 7018 low hydrogen electrode
Also since it is hardened it wouldn't hurt to pre heat to about 400* and slow cool. Great luck on hardened steel
+Backwoods Welding yes pre heating is best
My first cat was 933 that was cool
harden mig weilder wire works good as long you heat the cute to about 600F . very nice highlift you have there .
Happy New year Wes.
Nice video kep on uploading amazing video clips.
Happy New 2016 to you and your family =)
what ever happened with this project
GE large diesel engines are taken back to the depot in either Erie or Grove City PA no matter if the engine grenaded and sent parts thru the side casing. They pay the freight also. There may be a Cat depot somewhere or aftermarket engine facility that wants the old core so they can sell a reman to somebody else.
And it still sits in the same spot today. LOL
In comparison to the Cat D series, what size is the 955 more or less, D5 I guess, anyone knows?
the crack issue v it out press into place use 7018 ,8018 th or palco. 700 rod pre heat then weld the v alternating sides top bottom. then relieve by peening. reheating and bury it in floor dry to cool slowly or insulwool if available. cats factory steel is not your normal steel they had a saying built to be rebuilt
Happy new year Wes
Good luck on the 955 engine swap. Mechanical repair on heavy equipment is completely different than working on farm tractors.....
You would probably better off to take the bucket off and repair it then, it much easier to preheat. You should take off the dump cylinders makes makes life easier when you do the engine swap. If you can borrow an over head rolling derrick to lift the engines it also make the job easier and safer.
With the cost of fuel going down, I seriously doubt the price of scrap will ever skyrocket like it did some time ago. Yes I could be mistaken. Yet the reason it went up last time was from people like India and China making cheap cars that all their people could afford. The demand for steel shot up and there wasnt enough supply to meet the demand. That was then, this is now. With the cost of fuel in free fall, so are many other prices.
Good for you to be able to get a replacement motor. Will you do a tear down of the old one to find out why it seized?? I look forward to the vids next week.
Oh and happy new year to you and all the rest of you youtubers.
cant wait,,,,sounds good
Hey Wes. Have not seen or heard a word about the 955L Cat. I can only guess you decided to move on from this project or someone gave you a offer you could not refuse. Just curious as to the final of what happened. Thanks
keep use with videos of the work you do on the 955L.....Have a Safe and Happy New Year................
Wes could you make some welding jackets? I would gladly buy 1 or 2.
Hi Wes Do you still the 955 track loader,did you get the chance to get it running?
what happened
+onelonelyfarmer : Hey Wes, that's a sweet deal that you found a replacement engine for the 'ol girl so easily. As the saying goes, "Rather get lucky than be good, any day." LOL! Since scrap is so far down, perhaps you can talk them out of more of that parts Cat machine while you are picking up the engine? Might just be worthwhile. Anyhow... Happy New Year to you, Tim, and everyone else in the Pandy family, from Andy & Deb in upstate NY!
Old 13-18ton excavator with guillotine head would be the best solution in that kind of work. When you first get rid of all those trees and then fill the ditch up.
When welding the bucket, if it is hardened steel it won't hurt to pre heat the area. If there is a lot of carbon in it then when it heats fast and cools fast the iron ion release the carbon ions and make it brittle. I recommend (purely my opinion if I was doing it) grooving out the crack, pre heat the weld area to 400-450*f and welding with 7018 rod. It may take multiple passes so check the temp between welds and don't let it drop below 400. Get it welded up then heat it to 450 again immediately after welding and burry it in sand, put sand under it and a heavy layer over it to let it cool slowly. This should prevent brittleness and cracking.
Things you'll need
-$15 infrared thermometer
-5# of 1/8" 7018 welding rods (KEEP DRY)
-A lot of sand
Any questions shoot me a message
kick ass project! i have a 215 cat excavator sitting in the backyard that i picked up for a joke of a price, might have to get ambitious and get her back together!
Wes have you considered stunt doubles w/insurance of course LOVE YOUR CHANNEL
Wes I recommend Lincoln Excalibur 7028. Great for heavy structural steel welding.
Have you ever checked out Fazzio's steel in Glassboro ? Ive heard they have a huge selection of surplus steel and construction epquipment. You can also check with them online. Ive only been to their site in Delaware...nice site for metal supplies at a reasonable price...including large size nuts and bolts.
hi wes ref loader on cat could you remove hoses from lift ram circuit and fit longer pipes .plug into a tractor and raise the loader up lock it safe and work on engine .done this in the past and saves hour of work . even buy adapter connectors if needed very cheep and borrow hoses of another machine far better than trying to lift it out of the way and safer
Dude, Amazon advertises 955L manual for a little over 39 bucks. Might come in handy. Good luck.
Nice
Watch yourself when it gets muddy. Those are not dozer pads. Going to suck when it gets muddy.
you can pour marvel mystery oil down the cylinders and it should free it up pretty good. you at least run it a little
Happy New Year!!!
Kinda wish I had one right now. I have a couple little projects it would be handy as hell for on the farm.
Hi I'm just wondering when more vids of the 955 are coming?
Any update on this ol beast? Are you gonna get the engine for it?
Can we get some updates on your grain equipment. Even though you don't raise grain anymore it would be cool to see it again
+Farmerjon9660 agreed
Farmers welding cracks me up. I don't know how many times I've been called out to a farmers place to fix something to find he tried to weld it and just fucked it up real bad.
Are you going to get any compensation from the 6200 owners since its seized rather then head just being blown?
did you get the cat 955 cat Engine and when will you have it in the shed and a update ? onelonleyfarmer
cool project good time to clean it all up maybe some paint even on the cheap like rust primer and paint it's always nice to work on a clean rig and it will last longer
Thats just a common 3306 PC cat engine. They are very easy to find.
6011 to start weld then 7018 and keep the rod warm & dry watched some HY80 welding (very thick) xray & dye penetrant tested
main thing is BE careful. around that loader frame even with the lock in place the older guys that I worked at McAllister machinery in Indiana didn't call the early track loaders widow makers for nothing put channel or angle iron on the cylinders for safety
Why don't we hear about this 955l anymore
That's a good deal get a running engine you don't know what's all wrong with your engine cat parts are hi as you know might be cheaper than fixing yours.
you getting crushed and killed wes would not be good for ratings cause then their wouldn't be onelonelyfarmer any more and all of your subscribers and your family would miss you. stay safe and have a happy new year
I bought a wreck once having been told the motor was seized and found it was ok and had a starter that had rusty solinoid and had stuck on blowing the armature apart in the housing. So check it all before you tear it apart. I know you would any how. thats just for everyone else.
I highly recommend some LED lights, they use next to nothing power, and you can get them cheap from amazon or ebay
If the fellow selling the engine has a 955 body he's planning to sell for scrap, perhaps it has a shovel in good condition that you could buy to replace the broken one on yours.
happy new year wesley looking forward to the new snd wish your family a happy new year from denmark
@chuckE2009 what should he use for welding rod for the bucket
You are an inspiration to me. Instead of a dozer, I want a backhoe-loader that needs some tinder loving care....
Hey Wes. So what are you mostly going to be using the dozer for? I see that you still have your pull type mower. Do you think you will ever be using it again?
can't wait to watch this project. you should paint it too. would that be a huge pain in the ass?
I have not done any cutting edge welding in twenty years and then only with a stick welder but in those days cutting edge steel was so hard that it could only be welded in short stitches to prevent it from getting to hot and breaking out right beside the weld, I never happened to ask a real welder weather that problem could be alleviated by preheating and post heating the edge or if doing so would compromise the integrity of the edge itself or since I have never used one but have been told that wire feed welders don't create the heat like a stick welder the problem may not be as serious with a wire feed welder.
might be a smart idea go look over youre cat a little more closely before going over to pick up the good engine and see if any parts are broken worn or cracked on youre cat
if you can wrench it of their old hulk it should be cheaper than buying it of ebay or simulair if youre able to buy it for little above the price of scrap
Id be running a hardfacing rod after running a brand new 7018 low hydrogen rod that is nice and heated and dry.
One lonely farmer you should put a graber like you have one the skidsteer o grab the trees and stiks :)
anyway to get the engine loose, would soaking the cylinders in diesel wprk
I am from CT I wish you a happy new year and good luck.
definitely need leds on there for lights!
Use cable bolted thru roof and down to the core support in front with turnbuckles on it for your limb riser
what michael owen said but pre heat it before you weld it put in a root pass grind out the top of the weld both sides and then a capping pass dress as nessary
Your Welding follower guy should if not already be able to aid you in that weld repair
Have you been able to fix the motor yet Wes?
Any updates on the new 955 engine replacement?
what are the scrap prices like in the usa hear in the uk its like 2 pound a tone last time i looked
What’s going on with the old tank are you still planning on getting it running?
I don't see scrap coming up for at least a year or two.
When my Uncle allowed me to use his 450C John Deere crawler the first thing he told me was to be vigilant about watching for trees coming into the cab and impaling me. Said that to say the expanded metal around the work station is a great idea and even though the 450C had work station protection it wasn't uncommon for smaller tree limbs and trunks coming towards me as I worked. It sounds like you are really excited about the new Cat and I'm sure the rest of us can't wait to see smoke pluming out of the exhaust pipe. Daily updates are great and we appreciate the fact that you always try to accommodate us with them.
+jbmbanter or if by misfortune a branch finds its way up against a control lever, the pressure from the advancing loader will make the machine uncontrollable. That's why side screens whould be a good idea.
ROAD TRIP!!!
most of our good steel is at the bottom of the ocean(s)!
re-paint? nice chrome straight pipe with a 45° end ?
Good luck. I just fired up my old d6c after sitting for ten years. it went super well and proceeded to do some logging. All it needed was a couple new batteries. I didn't even drain the fuel.
wes we need an update