By the 17th century the medieval bollocks on the Scottish Dirk are just a flat guard with a small seperator on it. p.s. i guess age catches up with everyone.
Love English and Scottish history.. I am American live in South Carolina, but i did live in Lakenheath, UK for 11 years when i was younger. My pops was stationed there in the USAF.
@Scholagladiatoria the Highland officer in the kilt at left in the Crimean war photograph is in fact wearing his dirk, so they might still have been worn in action, at least in 1854-56. Wellington, in later life said Assaye was his hardest fought and finest victory.
@@ironanvil1 Love the novels on his pre-Rifle career. The Battle of Assaye in Sharpe's Triumph is still one of my favourite battle scenes in literature especially the scene with the 74th.
'Assaye' was part of the badge of the HLI. I think it was a village in India were the later Duke of Wellington had his first victory. First time I actually a bit of background to something you're talking about!
You are correct And why would you ware it under your sword arm. Who let that englishman tell how it was done, unless he was one of the Red Coats that took a slash from one.
I was told the pummel was designed for gripping the dirk blade down in your left hand, for stabbing down. The idea was that you followed your cut with the broadsword in the right hand with a stabbing down motion of the dirk in your left hand. This was used in combination with a target on your left arm.
If it wasn't this ornate, it could be called a "survival kit", only thing missing here are matches or flint, and maybe some line (for fishing or making traps for birds).
First - that dirk's blade is awesome, in the more original sense of the word. I was quite literally in awe of the blade; in particular vs the scabbard. Scabbard - all nice like and done up. Blade - all business. That blade is so beautiful in that it is exactly what is it - a killing implement. You see it and there is no question about what it is for. Second - when, in Europe, did carrying knifes around go out of style and why?
Does anyone else suspect that dirks and bollock daggers evolved from a gladius that some Roman left lying around at Hadrian's Wall until a local took a fancy to it and stuck a pointy blade on it? Of course there might have been a misunderstanding about the original design of the hilt that natives tried to 'improve' on.
I'm quite sure that if I looked over the catalog I'd plenty of things that I'd fancy and would love to bid on. The problem is that I can't afford many, if any, of the items that I'd fancy.
Hmm... the grip almost seems like a hybrid between the bollock dagger and a rondel dagger (bollocks in the front, rondel in the back). The blade certainly has some similarity to the two as well. Perhaps it was a Scottish fusion of the two designs. Or maybe I'm just talking bollocks ;)
Man that thing is thick at the base it must have been over 1/4th inch thick before the etching and way to fancy for my tastes. got the etching must have taken hours upon hours of careful work with waxes and acids. Keep in mind this was before rotary tools and pneumatic engravers. every piece of brass/bronze on that blade it was done either with a big chunk of bronze or brass and had engravers or threw lost wax casting. it is possible they had a 2 part mold to cast the bronze however i do not yet know enough about casting to say for sure.
Bowie was fond of the Arkansas Toothpic so I am told, which I've seen pix of with a 12" blade which was either a dagger or spearpoint and could be considered a pseudo-dirk, one of the defining attributes of, in the strict definition, is a blade 1 cubit or 14"
I carried one in my boot during my time in JTF2, wasnt regulation but i wanted a big blade in my tall boot, a very simple one but its my personal Dirk, also had a Seax behind my back attatched to my belt (the one that held my pants up)
Christian Arthey that sounds improbable only because of the size of the knife vs how tall the boots usually are. How tall were your boots? Also, wouldn’t a knife on your back interfere with web gear and or a pack? I know JTF2 troops had/have a lot of leeway with their kit so it’s not impossible, and I’m not calling you a liar, I just can’t jive that kind of kit with the rest of the gear which maybe just a lack of understanding on my part.
Ive read that dirks came from rondeldaggers (ill find the source if you like, but i suspect its speculation), as the cap as you call iy might just as well be called a rondel or version of the rondel, even if its construction is different, by function its similar. Ofcourse the need to define is a modern one and the only definitions ive found of rondeldaggers is based on hiltconstruction. But what is the reason you believe the dirk is evolved from bullock daggers rather than rondeldaggers?
I explained this in the video :-) The early dirks actually show the outline of the bollock dagger 'balls' on their guard/ferrule sections. Sometimes this is even accentuated in their decoration, where the 'balls' are carved in. They are clearly evolved from bollock daggers and I can see no evidence for any strong relation to the rondel dagger, except those unusual bollock-rondel hybrids.
ok, i should have been more specific. "any evidence outside of what you mention in the video" as the presence of balls are atleast not to me any more compelling, or any less for that matter than the presence of the end cap/rondel. But Its not something Ive studied greatly, I readilly admit I have never handeled a real dirk. But thanks for clarifying
And a general one on grip size, which includes some design talk. ruclips.net/video/4k26h6OZEWU/видео.html Edit: I hope that at least one of these are of aid.
Run away with the whole set and come over for dinner! I'll make sure there's plenty of wine! Don't be too bothered if you end up with a cheap chefs knife and a plastic fork in return! :P
Goddamn zoomers these days. Back in my day we ate we had to walk through 10 miles of snow, uphill bothways, to get a pair of eating knives. Zoomers are spoiled with forks :P
Actually, Matt, that's not an eating fork but a Scottish swordbreaker.
Chortle!!
I can see the fighting knife, the eating knife and the eating fork.
But where pray tell is the fighting fork?
Squire! Bring me my fighting spoon!
Starting bid of 2800.
Cries poor people tears.
"You can see the balls merging..."
Matt Easton, May 2019
😂😂🤣🤣
By the 17th century the medieval bollocks on the Scottish Dirk are just a flat guard with a small seperator on it.
p.s. i guess age catches up with everyone.
Love English and Scottish history.. I am American live in South Carolina, but i did live in Lakenheath, UK for 11 years when i was younger. My pops was stationed there in the USAF.
Beautiful example. Shame it's missing the fighting fork though
I want. Suspect I can't afford.
Fighting knife with eating implements? Must be all the rage with the cannibal armies.
No it's for eating the breakfast you came across while raiding your enemies' supply depot/baggage train.
You stole their bacon. The fork is good for roasting it over a fire.
@@davidtuttle7556 To paraphrase Sun Tse: "Eating your lunch is good, but eating your enemy's lunch is better."
@@calamusgladiofortior2814 Yep.
"Hello, this is Matt from forgotten weapons" 😁
This was great
Another satisfiede Gun Jesus fan. Have you been struck by Lightning?
He doesn't have the hair for it
Would love to see more videos on dirks and how they were used, both in a utility role (if any) and combat.
@Scholagladiatoria the Highland officer in the kilt at left in the Crimean war photograph is in fact wearing his dirk, so they might still have been worn in action, at least in 1854-56. Wellington, in later life said Assaye was his hardest fought and finest victory.
Yes I actually labelled the photo in the video to point that out :-)
thanks to Richard Sharpe, I actually know all those battle sites!!
In the books, Sharpe was actually in the 74th for a short while in India.
@@ironanvil1 Love the novels on his pre-Rifle career. The Battle of Assaye in Sharpe's Triumph is still one of my favourite battle scenes in literature especially the scene with the 74th.
Badger0fDeath I watched this hoping Bernard would buy the dirk (maybe with an advance from his publisher for a new book featuring the 74th!)
'Assaye' was part of the badge of the HLI. I think it was a village in India were the later Duke of Wellington had his first victory. First time I actually a bit of background to something you're talking about!
getting bludgeoned by a jewel-encrusted pommel, what a way to go. that's a fantastic piece, that etching dang
Another reason, seemingly, for the lack of a guard would be that these would’ve been held in the same hand as a targe.
You are correct And why would you ware it under your sword arm. Who let that englishman tell how it was done, unless he was one of the Red Coats that took a slash from one.
very cool! thanks for the information
I was told the pummel was designed for gripping the dirk blade down in your left hand, for stabbing down. The idea was that you followed your cut with the broadsword in the right hand with a stabbing down motion of the dirk in your left hand. This was used in combination with a target on your left arm.
Absolutely spectacular.
If by "somewhat interesting" you mean "impossible to stop watching", then yes, this was somewhat interesting.
If it wasn't this ornate, it could be called a "survival kit", only thing missing here are matches or flint, and maybe some line (for fishing or making traps for birds).
First - that dirk's blade is awesome, in the more original sense of the word. I was quite literally in awe of the blade; in particular vs the scabbard. Scabbard - all nice like and done up. Blade - all business. That blade is so beautiful in that it is exactly what is it - a killing implement. You see it and there is no question about what it is for.
Second - when, in Europe, did carrying knifes around go out of style and why?
Nice knife all 3 of them look beautiful .
Does anyone else suspect that dirks and bollock daggers evolved from a gladius that some Roman left lying around at Hadrian's Wall until a local took a fancy to it and stuck a pointy blade on it?
Of course there might have been a misunderstanding about the original design of the hilt that natives tried to 'improve' on.
I love how the handle and cap reflect a thistle-head.
I thought it was a door knob.
I'm quite sure that if I looked over the catalog I'd plenty of things that I'd fancy and would love to bid on. The problem is that I can't afford many, if any, of the items that I'd fancy.
2 people disapprove of the way Matt grabs a swell.
Hurray for the amazing comeback of the beard!
This is merely 2 days growth for me. I just hadn't bothered shaving.
WOW what a beauty!
Matt looks about a decade older with that beard. I think it's his physical fitness - he hasn't wrinkled much.
Interesting, I thought the Dirk developed from the Irish Scian, I didn't know it came from the Bollock dagger.
Hmm... the grip almost seems like a hybrid between the bollock dagger and a rondel dagger (bollocks in the front, rondel in the back). The blade certainly has some similarity to the two as well. Perhaps it was a Scottish fusion of the two designs. Or maybe I'm just talking bollocks ;)
Man that thing is thick at the base it must have been over 1/4th inch thick before the etching and way to fancy for my tastes. got the etching must have taken hours upon hours of careful work with waxes and acids. Keep in mind this was before rotary tools and pneumatic engravers. every piece of brass/bronze on that blade it was done either with a big chunk of bronze or brass and had engravers or threw lost wax casting. it is possible they had a 2 part mold to cast the bronze however i do not yet know enough about casting to say for sure.
‘‘Tis nae a dress, ‘‘tis a kilt!
This feels like it should be in a museum. There are plenty military museums in the UK, maybe worth letting the army know in case they are interested?
I think it´s better that a collector have it and it shows up from time to time. then It collects dust in storage in a museum.
This is just gorgeous 😍
74th became the 2nd battalion HLI when it merged with the 71st highlanders during the v holders reforms
Actor David Niven was a HLI officer between the wars.
That looked really prissy... until the fighting blade came out :O
You say "bollock" with such enthusiasm ...
Cheers mat
I hope you make a fortune on it
I'd be curious to know if dirks played a role in the conquest of the West, alongside the Bowie.
Bowie was fond of the Arkansas Toothpic so I am told, which I've seen pix of with a 12" blade which was either a dagger or spearpoint and could be considered a pseudo-dirk, one of the defining attributes of, in the strict definition, is a blade 1 cubit or 14"
I carried one in my boot during my time in JTF2, wasnt regulation but i wanted a big blade in my tall boot, a very simple one but its my personal Dirk, also had a Seax behind my back attatched to my belt (the one that held my pants up)
what is JFT2?
@@pterinochilusmurinus9441 canadian special forces, stands for "JOINT TASK FORCE 2" though there wasnt a JTF1 i guess it sounded cooler
@@wendigo1619 Oddly enough it does sound cooler.. Either way carring a dirk in your boot in combat seems bad as fuck. Good deal!!!
Christian Arthey that sounds improbable only because of the size of the knife vs how tall the boots usually are. How tall were your boots? Also, wouldn’t a knife on your back interfere with web gear and or a pack? I know JTF2 troops had/have a lot of leeway with their kit so it’s not impossible, and I’m not calling you a liar, I just can’t jive that kind of kit with the rest of the gear which maybe just a lack of understanding on my part.
@@kiltymacbagpipe my dirk has a six in. Blade length which just barely fit in my boot and the seax didnt interfere because it was hanging
That moment when you realize the reflection in the mirror behind Matt is actually another room. #mindblown
How about when the reflection in the mirror is YOU??!
Ooh fancy
It's funny, this seems to be universal. Even japanese swords of any kind have small fork and eating knife scabbards implemented. A soldier must eat!
Didn't the traditional kukri also come with two "auxiliary" knives shaped like tiny kukris?
I think it was typically a knife and a honing tool. Like a file or a butchers steel.
Is 🏴knive got influence from the enemy? Roman gladius South of the wall?
I wonder who told them to stick a fork in it
Everyone I see Matt Easton I imagine him cursing that upstart commoner sargeant sharpe
i have a dirk i believe it is it was my g.grandfathers
My dirk not only has a knife and fork it has a spoon too.
"Highland Dress Mess kit"
Whoever owned that dirk, was a goddamn fanatic of the 74th regimen😂😂
Ive read that dirks came from rondeldaggers (ill find the source if you like, but i suspect its speculation), as the cap as you call iy might just as well be called a rondel or version of the rondel, even if its construction is different, by function its similar.
Ofcourse the need to define is a modern one and the only definitions ive found of rondeldaggers is based on hiltconstruction.
But what is the reason you believe the dirk is evolved from bullock daggers rather than rondeldaggers?
I explained this in the video :-) The early dirks actually show the outline of the bollock dagger 'balls' on their guard/ferrule sections. Sometimes this is even accentuated in their decoration, where the 'balls' are carved in. They are clearly evolved from bollock daggers and I can see no evidence for any strong relation to the rondel dagger, except those unusual bollock-rondel hybrids.
ok, i should have been more specific. "any evidence outside of what you mention in the video" as the presence of balls are atleast not to me any more compelling, or any less for that matter than the presence of the end cap/rondel. But Its not something Ive studied greatly, I readilly admit I have never handeled a real dirk. But thanks for clarifying
Um no I'm not familiar with a bollocks dagger; and, a quick search of your channel did not help. Please elaborate.
I believe this is the video he is referring to, if not then it may be the next one I link.
ruclips.net/video/zdfVERSvz4U/видео.html
Or it could be this one.
ruclips.net/video/7grxXw1psX4/видео.html
Then I have three videos on bollock daggers by Tod of Tod's workshop.
Evolution of the bollock dagger.
ruclips.net/video/G_c3TDJLKzE/видео.html
How did the bollock dagger get it's name?
ruclips.net/video/oaqhVm5ekYA/видео.html
And a general one on grip size, which includes some design talk.
ruclips.net/video/4k26h6OZEWU/видео.html
Edit: I hope that at least one of these are of aid.
Skean, Irish dirk - dagger
Run away with the whole set and come over for dinner! I'll make sure there's plenty of wine! Don't be too bothered if you end up with a cheap chefs knife and a plastic fork in return! :P
But then you've got two knives and zero spoons
Just carry a dirk and a spork. Or a fork and a spirk, or something like that
If you own a spork, you've got everything you need. Although Bowies and Ka Barrs are useful camp tools.
sounds like a kind of bollocks dagger for presbyterians. :)
Seriously, man, regrow the chops.......
5st
Goddamn zoomers these days. Back in my day we ate we had to walk through 10 miles of snow, uphill bothways, to get a pair of eating knives. Zoomers are spoiled with forks :P