Medieval DOGS were AMAZING!
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- What did medieval dogs look like? Who owned them? What were their breeds?
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There’s something so aesthetically pleasing about a heavily armored knight with a big old hound by his side. So cool
*Kingdom come intensifies
@@dakotabenson4540 I can hear the music in my skull lol
@@TheBetterBleedingBladesRUclips damn I got it too now lol
@@kingofspades1785 it must be a mind virus as I too I'm afflicted
There's something so aesthetically pleasing about a big old hound.
Honestly makes sense that in those times dogs would not be judge for their breed but would be categorized by their utility which makes sense for those times.😺
I don't know if it's specific to any time, it's just that they use the animals, so they gave them names of functions.
Specific breeds appear in the XIXth century, when the dogs and horses are way less useful, and are not used, but breed for looks, or prestige ^^
"Breed" was originally about utility, before Westminster and the AKC shifted the focus to aesthetics and bloodline.
Your mom makes sense for those times 👵🏿
It makes sense for these times too. What do people want dogs for today? Some want a dog for companionship, others for security, others want dogs to herd animals, others want dogs for hunting.
horses were the same way of course
Medieval archaeologist here. I currently work at an excavation in a medieval town in Norway. No dogs yet, but I did find the skull of a cat.
That cat was probably the ruler of the lands
All Hail King Meowzers II
This town worshipped Freya.
@@thatHARVguy as the skull dates to about 1200ad I think they worshiped christ.
Well, we know who ruled that land for about 12 years
This is such an interesting topic, I don't think I've ever seen anyone talk about this ever before. Interesting that you made a video about it. I always had thought that the medieval paintings were a bit janky in their depictions of dogs but it seems they were spot on.
the more you know about medieval times, the more accurate you find all the "bizzare" paintings and iconography from those times :D
Really makes you think how people see and think of dogs today, some dogs may not do the things people would want them to do. Some dogs are friendly, some sre mean, but really, it's what they are, there history, and how they are treated. Ex: Two of the same dog, people could expect them to do the same thing, however they may act differently on different occassions. But this video really emphasize on the topic to dogs in history, and how much has changed, if not had simlilar things changed over time.
@@OwocowyMr Especially the "knights fighting snails" thing.
@@Howjadoo22 and knights banging two halves of a coconut together.
@@Howjadoo22 Medieval people liked a good meme same as today. Check out bollocks daggers.
A Shad in his most natural environment. People at historic festivals are so fascinating and fun to listen to when asked about their topic of study. Shad is such a good interviewer, able to keep the direction of the conversation going while still allowing the person to discuss at her leisure. There is so much that people of the past did that we take for granted. They were not less intelligent than we are today, they would have had their Elon Musks and Jeff Bezoses back then, but only limited by the technology of the day, not limited by their imaginative genius. To think they were genetically engineering on a massive production scale and obviously over the long periods of time that would be needed for selective breeding to bear fruit.
They did the same with crops. Foods today look alot different than a few thousand years ago
those people remade the entire face of the world. they remade the animals, the fruits, the vegetables, the very forests, the grasses, the rivers, the lakes, and even the entire coastlines. and they did it all with less than we have now.
Not sure how you can put bezos and elon in the same thought as imaginitave geniuses, they don't really have the ideas so much as payroll them. More like the landholders in that kind of comparison.
@@chromarush1749 i could be wrong but I dont think elon started with much(he wasn't born into mega money) he made a few internet businesses like PayPal and sold them for a ton and went from there. So yeah he is a creative genius.
@@chromarush1749 I don't like Bezos but it doesn't take away from what he has built. There have always been men like him, good or bad, who are able to construct massive enterprises in the past. If he lived 500 years ago I could see him owning large breeding kenels.
Thank you Shad for taking an interest in Knights of the Long Dogs and our beautiful hounds/setter. I am amazed and delighted at all the positive comments. I love the Medieval period, The Abby Medieval Festival is awesome at show casing their lives
This was a great and interesting interview of you! Not many people know so much about such a specific topic. Hope you had many other curious people like Shad talking to you :D
And what fetching ladies as well!
Kudos to the Knights of the Long Dog. Handling that many large dogs with a bunch of distractions while providing a lot of cool information.
Thanks Shad! I always love learning about dogs and their roles alongside of us
just goes to show their skill and patience with the dogs, as well as the dogs temperament and training. there is a lot of hours in those pups.
Katie from Knights of the Longdog here! We do choose the most chill dogs who have near-endless desire for pats from strangers for these kinds of events, but our fearless leader Alexis organises training days for us as well. A lot of it is about how to use body language to keep the pack calm, but also a lot about managing the crowds as well 😁.
@@katiel7166 Yeah I remember the people who ran the dog training school I went to pulling me to the side while everyone was walking their dogs in a circle and explaining that they are really training the owners.
Always happy to see an Irish Wolfhound. They are such gentle giants.
Unless you mess w/ their family. They are fiercely protective. I met one at a fair and his mistress told me that they had to stop bringing him to their SCA events because he would attack anyone who his master was sparring w/. And good thing that the other person was wearing armour! She showed me the gouges on his teeth from chomping down on plate and chain. But when there was no fighting, he was just a big, happy dog. When I met him I asked permission to pet him and when I received it I asked him if he likes belly rubs and he immediately rolled onto his back. Made a new friend that day.
A fine Cu'
@@robo5013
Oh yeah. There’s a reason the Irish Wolfhound is the Houndmaster’s companion in the video game Darkest Dungeon. They’re wonderful to their friends, but boy can they be fierce too.
I've only been lucky enough to see them in person a few times, and good lord are they even bigger than you think from images. Just moving about in a casual setting there is an impressive amount of power to them. And yet very sociable, very inquisitive without too much pushiness (this could of course be the training). The kind of dog you want to play with, but never want to be on the business end of their teeth.
@@Hadaron Irish legends talk about their fierceness when provoked, I have seen video of one catching a fairly big coyote and dispatching it with crushing bite
Very interesting, as a dog owner and medieval enthusiast I love this
Seeing Shad going "hello!" while scratching these handsome pups' heads is on a level of wholesome I never knew existed 🥰
Lost count of the number of big tough looking guys doing the "who's a good boy? yes you are! yes you aaaaaare" routine in this encampment. I was there with my greyhound, who was a good gateway drug for little kids who were too nervous to go up to the big dogs to begin with!
I always got funny looks when I was an army sergeant walking my 3 pound pomeranian before work. It was entertaining to see people craning their necks as they drove by.
It's actually interesting with the sight hounds, we still regularly use them here in Louisiana for duck hunting, pretty much for the exact reason she highlights here. Also noteworthy is that they often have webbed feet... an adaptation that is great for sand and snow is also perfect for an animal in marshes and water.
Sitting here in the UK with two Louisiana Leopard Dog pups at my feet. Webbed feet & claws like razors. Great dogs though a handful at the moment!
Amazing to think these features were not natural adaptations but the result of selective breeding
@@riffhurricane catahoulas in England? That’s wild!
@@Lily_of_the_Forest There aren't many in the UK. There's more in Europe where they use them for hog hunting.
The Rottweiler breed in particular has a rich history, once being known as "Butchers Dogs". Waaaaay long ago they used to be guard dogs for the Romans, and the modern breed used to be used to haul carts of meat to market (thus their name, 'butchers dogs'). Butchers typically tied their purse around the Rottweilers neck (have fun getting that out). This is why their build is typically with big strong shoulders, while still being medium height, being a modern breed that is physically quite powerful, compact and retaining excellent guarding instincts while being very trainable and very loyal to their owners. An excellent breed with a long history.
The Rottweiler had also the duty to drive (?) /treiben in german/ the cattle bought by butchers or cattle traders. My father, born 1938, told me two stories. A man older than him, learned the profession of butcher shortly before wwll. As trainee / Lehrling he had to transport saussages to a client with Rottweiler and small chart. Suddenly a deer came out of forrest, the dog wanted to chase the deer the little chart fell and the saussages laid at ground. A friend of my father was a trader for leather, fur and annimal hair ( used in some casses for padding). During a trading/ business tour in Argentine he visited a large slaughter house (?) , where four Rottweiler dogs helped to bring the cattle from truck to slaugter/butcher house.
More a fun fact: Rottweiler can also mean ,inhabitants of Rottweil', also they had been once a bit more dangerous than average. In 1803 Napoleon did a first step to change the map of Germany. He gave the territories of Bishops, spiritual lords, Imperial towns and Imperial Knights to important german rulers. Rottweil became now a part of Württemberg. During occupation of the imperial towns, there was nealy no serious resistance, so only small occupation troops had been necessary. Only in Rottweil württembergian Duke feared for to me unknown reasons resistance, and send much more soldiers than to other towns.
In medival Times many mollossa breads wher popular like Rottweiler ,cane corso , Neapolitan Mastive !
Watching Shad fawn over the dogs was adorable.
Yes
Really nice video!
Very unfortunate that fewer people are being recommended these kinds of quality content. Hopefully youtube changes these controversial features of its algorithm in the near future.
Dude bro yes RUclips sucks always screwing shad over
Yup. YT didn’t recommend this one to me. I remember Shad’s last video and sought out his channel myself.
Always love to see remnants of the medieval age in today's world. It's a lot more common than you realize when you do some research and pay attention. Fascinating.
I'm part of this reenactment group, and the real reason we're there is to tell people about how awesome sighthounds are as pets. Of course we only bring the steadiest dogs - no lie, these dogs get patted by about 10,000 people over the course of the weekend - but they way they just want to lounge around and be adored is a pretty accurate portait of the breeds as a whole.
I love the fact that Shad starts and ends his videos the same way, it makes watching his videos so calming and reassuring.
I agree
Now I want to go around medieval Europe with one of these beautiful and fierce dogs and search for the holy Grail.
Get a Catahoula leopard dog. Breeders will make sure you can handle these beasts before they let you have one lol.
Great vid. What might be neat would be a vid on what types of dogs and other animals that an adventuring party would have. Potential rp storyline or back story.
You are a ranger on the run because you were working in the kennels and fell in love with a puppy and stole it. You develop ranger skills by being in the woods hiding from nobility and the price on your head. You can't just bring your dog into cities because people would winder why you have a lord's dog.
That's a really good character concept.
Your cover when you do have to enter the big cities is that you are one of the bondsmen who work in the kennels. Exactly whose kennels you work in is vague, which only works in the cities where many house holds are passing through during the right seasons, the small towns all know most everyone in their lord's service. So you bounce between ranging the wilds and occasionally coming into cities for supplies and jobs.
I like this story. Rangers Rule!
Oh my goodness I was so worried. I couldn't comment on the last video but now I see why. I've always been very interested in dogs and how to train them I would be very interested in seeing any kind of information on how medieval dogs were trained.
For the most part, hounds for hunting purpose were not really trained. They are supposed to have the quality and skills desired, and be released to do their job. And if they weren't suitable, probably they would die / be killed / not be bred.
While I do think that's true there does need to be a minimum of training especially if you want them to do something specific with the prey.
I'm from this reenactment group! Medieval dog training treatises were big on positive reinforcement rather than punishment, much like training today. Also, young hunting dogs would often be tethered to a more experienced dog in the hunt so they could learn by example. Although they were mostly kept in specialised kennels, favourite sighthounds could also be indoor pets. The Goodman of Paris wrote a book on household management in the 1390s that includes instructions on how to stop your hounds from getting up on the furniture, such as rubbing them down when they came and in having food, a good fire and lots of fresh straw for them to lie in...apparently it worked about as well as modern day attempts. So yeah, people have been struggling with that for at least the last 600 years.
@@katiel7166 I want to say thanks for the book mention! I can't find "The Goodman of Paris" available anywhere online, but I found an excerpt from "Medieval People (1924)" from the same author "Eileen Power" in my (online) national library that was quite the entertaining read.
It was about a peasant named "Bodo" and his life in France during the early 9th century, so not super on-topic for this video, but that's just the kind of rabbit holes I love.
I'm a little jealous of Australian Renaissance Festivals. American versions seem to be just entertainment and commerce. Maybe I missed it, but I never saw educated reenactors like this.
I've never been to one but that's the impression that I got from a former coworker who attended them with his wife.
I went to one recently, half the people had on elf ears, and there was a person in a fursuit there 🤮
A very large part of all the festivals in Australia is applying this kind of education to our displays. Many groups that provide entertainment, such as tournaments etc. also do similar things to this. Education is part of the entertainment. Our public craves it 😁
At least you have that kind of festival there
@@LupusSanguis We do have these sort of living museums, but they are all centered on American colonial history. I guess it surprises me that we don't have anything as involved for medieval European culture because the template exists and the interest is clearly there.
Medieval dogs had such class, what adorable doggos I want to hug them
I always thought that medival depictions of dogs were just bad at drawing. I didn't know dogs actually looked like that back then!
Yeah, that narrow of a snoot isn't that common any more.
Now do one for horses! (re-commented)
Made me giggle
Do one for dragons!
and hawks!
This would be a long video !
I bet everyone was looking at the back scabbard when he was at that festival.
Oh boy yes, made me stand out and easily recognised.
I have a scottish deerhound and they are absolutely incredible. Amazing as pets as they genuinely so friendly and full of personality. Just got to be aware of their chase instinct, which can be a problem but if you're careful you'll be fine
I have a greyhound and want a deer hound too. I've met a few and they have always been amazing.
Deerhound is a much more faithful representation of medieval sighthounds than the dogs here.
The fact that they classified breeds by function rather than by biology is similar to how they classified animals in general, e.g., everything that lived in water was classified as a "fish" even if it breathed air (e.g., whales) or was an invertebrate (e.g., shellfish, starfish, cuttlefish, etc.).
Breeds aren't biological. Breeds are, for lack of a better term, a purely socially constructed concept. Very, very rarely there are some breeds that are classified on a biological basis, but usually it is due to extreme isolation - those breeds are more formally known as landraces. The difference is that breeds are genetically mixed, landraces are genetically isolated.
That classification is not any less "biological" than modern classification
The difference is resolution
Not sure about the authenticity, but I was taught that they also classified water fowl, Ducks etc as “fish”.
@@cappinjocj9316 California classifies bees as fish so I guess not much has changed...
@@absolutechaos13 that's a complete misinterpretation. They are allowed to use the fish section for purposes of a specific endangered species act, because the fish section's list of non-fish things to be included in the ruling listed "invertebrates" without technically specifying "sea dwelling." Normally insects cannot be considered endangered animals, so they argued that the loose definition given to cover things like shrimp and fish lice technically fit four species of bee.
Sections in these laws have type of creature as the example (fish) then a further listing of the other creatures that are to be considered as fish for purposes of this ruling (crabs, starfish, octopi, etc). Explicitly classified as not being fish, but that they should use the fish ruling so they aren't listing the same paragraph for every individual species in the sea. "They're classified as fish" just got spread because clickbait.
This was so interesting! It's crazy how involved dogs have been in our lives historically!
Very long. There are very few animals on Earth that can run at a modest jog for a long time without taking breaks to cool down. Humans and dogs are the most important ones.
And in a time before you could ride horses or other mounts, all chasing after prey was done on foot. You just keep coming after them and don't let them rest until they are too exausted to continue running away. Dogs were pretty much the only animals in the world that are able to keep with hunters like that.
There’s actually a theory that Homo sapiens may owe quite a bit of their success to the domestication of canines, and that the process may have been mutual; that those early dogs may have also essentially been domesticating the humans too. At around the time we start to find significant signs of co-habitation, we also start to see biological signifiers associated with domesticated animals emerge in both species.
Dogs are like Legos - can become anything!
These ladies and their pups are awesome. Fantastic vid, Shad.
there's an entire myth in Welsh folklore about a wolfhound called Gelert. the short version of the story is that a Welsh prince went hunting with their wolfhounds and killed a female wolf with puppies. one of those puppies tried to get revenge by killing the welsh princes child. but one of the wolfhounds that the prince was extremely attached to called Gelert was there with the baby and Gelert threw the wolf off of the balcony of the princes room. the crib in the process was knocked down on top of the baby who slept peacefully through the whole fight. the prince who was alerted to the noise of the fight and after seeing the crib toppled assumes that Gelert killed his child, and kills him. the father discovers that the baby is fine and buries Gelert as a hero in a marked grave which you can visit in wales. the grave is called BeddGelert. the welsh translation is literally "gelerts grave"
tldr: wolf tries to kill baby, Gelert saves baby by throwing wolf off the castle balcony. prince thinks Gelert kills baby, kills him. finds baby is alive buries gelert in a site you can visit today called Beddgelert.
I was at a coursing competition and a person had a sign on the back of their truck that said "Life's too short to hunt with an ugly dog" with a picture of an English setter. Nice setter. Sight hounds are great runners in those competitions.
This is why i love this channel so much. You talk about things that others don't!
I really like this type of content. More of it, please.
After doing a bit of cursory research I believe sighthound and scenthound are 20th century designations. All of those sighthounds on screen would have been referred to as greyhounds. The scenthound I believe would have been referred to as a Lymer.
I was looking for a comment about this, that was my understanding too!
I wonder if working breeds vs herding breeds today have their roots in a similar timeframe.
This was quite interesting. I’ve seen dogs similar to these in the States. Now I am wondering if they were descendants of the long dog. Good vid, thanks Shad!
A fascinating revelation, I had no idea that dogs were that specifically bred and regulated back then. It is even more interesting that the royal dog breeds were almost jealously guarded and were used as gifts between nobles as well. Very cool video!
I have to say the Irish Wolfhound is one of my favorites. They are so big! And I love their scruffy look!
I have a english setter. Amazing dog! You can actually see the years of careful selections behind this breed.
Great video, as always!
9:00 Im romani gypsy and can confirm, we love our lurchers. They were/are used for coarsing hares, for food, because we were segregated and couldnt easily get access to food.
I've always thought terriers would've been worth their weight in gold back then, it's like Doom music starts playing in their heads as soon as they see rodents
15:24 Borzoi/borzaya is an old-fashioned way to say swift(19th century or so). Today it means brazen in the first place and brisk as a derivative from brazen. And it's a slang word but not a heavy one. I was quite surprised when I heard the name of the breed for the first time as a child and was asking my parents if everything was OK with this dog's behaviour=)
'Brzi' means 'the fast one' in Serbian, we just got rid of all the excess o-s, but same Slavic roots
A lot of animal names are like this. "Horse" basically (by a bit of a twisting road, the true starting point of which is lost to time) comes from an ancient word for "to run". Which y'know, makes sense.
Dog: "Speed... I. Am. Speed."
Every Borzoi I have ever met was a giant chicken.
Let loose the hounds! Very informative as always, and about a subject I never knew I was interested in.
I’d never thought of the mouth function in how they wanted the condition of the animal- I’d imagined it more as jaw strength or how gently they could grab it. I have a cocker spaniel (a fowling breed) and her mouth also has that looser skin that bunches when she grabs things like her toys. Pretty cool to see how that would benefit bringing back smaller game without damaging it!
I love how you have been talking to others about their specialized interests in the medieval period. I love dogs so this was an especially great video
Subscribed after watching your video about how RUclips is suppressing your content, now I enjoy everything I see. Keep up the good work!
Two of my favorite things. Shad and Dogs.
6:50 the dog's look "yes, that is how I do it!" 😄
I've always wondered about the animals from medieval times, it's also amazing how closely watched the breeding lines were taken care of.
American veterinary technician and dog trainer here, I can't even begin to express my happiness and gratitude about this video! Shad AND DOGS?? I'm here for it!
These dogs are clearly loved and well cared for, you love to see it ❤️ love seeing our Shad with some good bois and gurls.
Side note: Shad, as a vet tech and dog trainer, your positive energy, affection, and kindness around dogs is palpable, and that's why I like you even more.
I must ask though...
WHAT ABOUT DRAGONS?
Answering questions I didn't even know I wanted to know the answers to
As a dog person I went to watch the first upload as soon as I saw it.
It's a great video, loving the festival interviews!
Appreciate the general medieval information instead of all arms and armor, thanks!
I find myself listening to your videos like a podcast while I’m at work, really helps!
PUPPIES!
Truly "Man's Best Friend" and wonderful animals. They've helped us along the way in our own evolution and daily life that they are essential. Wonderful, and wholly original, topic! Seriously, find another history RUclipsr that's done this subject! Great work, Shad!
Shad, I have been watching you for years. I am not much of a commenter, but this video is very honest and heartwarming. Your straightforward passionate love of history stirs my core when I need it most. Everyone has their flaws, no one is perfect, and you and I are very different people. As my best friend says difference and variety are the spice of life. We all see how much love you put into your videos and I'm sure we all appreciate you more than the average youtube channel, and more than we would care to admit most of the time. You are a great man doing great work for the world. Stay as humble as you can as you create your dreams, and continue this work that will hopefully live on for generations. RUclips is a much better place with you around!
As much as I enjoyed this video, I have to say that the most pleasing part wasn't Shad, the information or even the doggies themselves. It was the very attractive lady on the left of the Knights of the Long Dog.
😀 Waited for that comment. Truly an eyecatcher.
I myself could not keep my eyes away truly a beauty to behold
A truly beautiful maiden!
Very interesting topic. Makes me want to rethink dogs in my Ttrpg campaign.
My players use war dogs to guard the camp. If you need to enter a dungeon and need a guard to protect the horses or loot a dog won't steal. Bonus points if you have 6+ war dogs. Also, you don't need to pay them a salary, just food.
Yay it's back!
What happen
Shad pinned a comment on what happened.
This was so cool and fascinating. I’d love to find out more about medieval herding dogs if they were even bred specifically for that.
I'm loving these reenactor interviews! You're choosing the topics very well and the people you interview explain really well their specialty
Good on you Mr Brooks for giving the Knights of the Long Dog a few hundred thousand views to promote their group.
Very interesting, love your exporation of the less covered topics.
eyyy its back up. always glad to see u value quality of the video so much.
I honestly need information on medieval cats. I know a little bit of their history, but I'd be interesting to hear from a expert like this.
Now, this is just a theory, but for the most part, cats were not actively bred. They had 1 job, and that was as pest control. To that end, the housecat and it's wild cousins were already perfect. The fact that they were also decently social with humans was a good bonus too.
The most I could imagine them being bred, outside of some fancy cat for the noble's amusement, was by culling bad mousers and those with dangerous anti-social temperaments.
@@nerdicusdorkum2923 Once cats became "domesticated", natural mutations began to be reproduced. Similar to the fox experiment in Russia. From such mutations came all various colors (other than the wild tabby color) and several that were breed and region defining. Like long coats and bob or taillessness. There were long haired (turkish vans) angora cats at the time of Mohammed, for example.
There's not much to tell. They just lingered around eating rodents. Begrudgingly tolerated at best, some of the time.
I'm 10 seconds in and already inclined to like. Everything I like in one frame.
Wish Irish Wolf Hounds had a longer life span. They're such interesting and cool dogs. Would love to have one, but would need a lot of outdoor room.
I’m loving these interview format videos. It really sets you apart from some of the other medieval creators
Shame about those original audio issues, hopefully it doesn't fuck the algorithm.
Hey cool and unique video Shad. I wish I could give the bird dog a huge hug
I had a Borzoi for years, a beautiful dog. She would go lay on a patch of snow instead of the grass. Mild and sweet, an 80lb lapdog was Tasha.
Brilliant as per usual. So glad we can join this time explores, and share their research, knowledge and experience. Thanks Shad for presenting them and congrats to the ladies: they really know their stuff and have a stunning pack!
Those are some good looking and cute doggos. Thanks for this segment, sir!
Such good puppers, I love dogs. Learing about medieval dogs was also super interesting, glad you decided to chat them up. Lots of cool facts about dogs during that time.
Beautiful hounds! Love videos that touch on medieval everyday life.
those are some very cutedogs!
very interesting and informative video!!
Very interesting topic. Animals are often not considered enough in the historical field, just like plants/vegetables/fruit.
To be fair, people back then were _way_ better at painting food than they were at painting animals. Probably because food doesn't try to run away.
Lovely ladies with lots of insights. Thanks for sharing!
This was really interesting.
I never would of thought that there were still breeds of dog that have lasted around since first century A.D..
Unfortunately the reality is that none of these dog "breeds" are anywhere near that old.
The Borzoi was bred in Russia in the 16th Century
The English Setter has only been known since the 15th Century at the earliest
The Irish Wolfhound {as this woman stated} pretty much died out at the start of the 18th Century and the Dog we call an Irish Wolfhound today is a mix of mainly Deerhound and Great Dane along with the few remaining specimens of the original Irish Wolfhound alive in the mid 19th Century.
Dog Breeding is infamous in changing the look of dogs - An English Bulldog from 1900 looks absolutely nothing like an English Bulldog from 2000 and in that particular case the original breed had NOT died out through neglect but through deliberately breeding for the characteristics we see today.
@@franohmsford7548 Landrace breeds, however, are typically fairly old - such as the Mongolian Bankhar.
@@poetryflynn3712 Yes there are breeds of dogs that have been around for longer but those breeds aren't the ones in that video.
And the Bankhar dogs {according to wikipedia} supposedly maintained their genetic purity through geographic isolation but look surprisingly similar to Bernese Mountain Dogs from Switzerland which is a pretty long way from Mongolia.
Also according to wikipedia, these dogs almost died out in the mid 20th century so again it's highly possible what we see today is NOT what they looked like 500 years ago.
I used to have a borzoi. She was the most beautiful dog in all the Omaha, NE area. I was amazed walking her after picking her up from the salon how she'd suck the attention from everywhere. They gave her the nickname "Cover Girl". :-)
Cool! This is an interesting topic you usually don’t hear that much about. Thank you Shad! 👍
As a lover of dogs in general, I really enjoyed this! Especially the borzois as they're one of my favorite breeds. You do a great job in these interviews of letting your interviewee do the talking. Thanks, Shad! Keep up the great work!
But what about medieval cats?
And more importantly, what about dragons?
Seriously though, this video has really peaked my interest, and now I'm curious about medieval cats.
That was really fascinating.
Also, I love how the dogs were on high alert at the start and by the end of the conversation they were so relaxed. Falling asleep in the background
Just like my Maremma does haha
Fifteen thousand years of friendship!🐶
And, according to the Goodman of Paris's treatise on household management (circa 1390), at least 600 years of struggling to keep them off the couch. Some things never change.
Thank you for filming these interviews and thank you to the performers for participating and sharing their knowledge of history.
Makes me proud to own a Tibetan mastiff 😊 they were used to guard the mongol hordes while they slept and were used as fierce war dogs
Genghis Khan had 50,000 of them in armor that were thought to be invincible by the enemies
Irish wold hounds are one of my favorite dogs, they are MASSIVE but they are so sweet. At least every one I've ever met fascinating video sir!! Well done!!
These are not dogs, these are proper hounds
Release za Hounds!
Teeechnically, the medieval English word for a hound was dogge, whereas hund was any dog.
Back to the roots, Shad. Topics that we all love. Nice!
Dogs used to have few genetic defects until the royalty decided they weren't quite enough like them.
I've understood that the problem arouse in the 19th century, when people started breeding dogs for (very specific) looks, rather than for functionality. To get the exact aesthetic, breeders mated dogs that were close relatives, including with their own parents. Meanwhile, these medieval dogs were working dogs and undoubtedly very healthy - if they couldn't function, no breeding for them.
Serendipity! What a fantastic group for a Medieval RUclipsr to happen across!
Side note: I've found a local Nature Education Center that does classes in falconry, so I'm gonna be checking that out in the Spring.
The most captivating thing on earth is someone talking about what they're passionate about. Doesn't hurt if they're doggos
So glad you did this video!! I’ve been interested in this subject for ages but couldn’t find info in a ready to digest form I could understand. Thank you Shad!
I already know about some of the various hound and mastiff breeds of the medievil times, but wasn't aware that setters were such an old breed. Also noticed some of the scent dogs in those tapestrys look a lot like Clumber Spaniels!
Loving these videos Shad!!! You're getting answers to questions that most dog lovers have always had about how dogs were used during the medieval times. I would've thought them to be much more utilitarian amongst everyone. And that they were identified by their usage rather than breeds is very interesting along with some of the features that make complete sense and are obvious when someone points them out like the big flappy jowls for not tearing into your waterfowl when your dog retrieves your kill. Fantastic info!! Makes me wonder if Pits have waterfowl heritage because of their big flappy jowls.
I've always said that we don't give our ancestors enough credit for being more intelligent than we could ever imagine. I have always believed that they were even far more intelligent than we are today.
Ya just gotta think of how much they accomplished and how they managed to shape their world in the way that they did through just trial and error compared to modern times and all the advancements in science and technology that we have now. It's absolutely mind-blowing!
Thanks for the excellent info Shad!!!
Second time, how dare you Shad, dogs have always been amazing!
Dogs are man's greatest creation. No animal has the versatility that dogs have.
This is a fascinating topic! I love dogs, so I very much enjoyed hearing what roles they played in medieval history. Thank you for this Shad, and my thanks to the kind ladies who educated us about those dogs. 🙂 Very enjoyable video!!