Around the back of London’s smallest church is something surprising… 👀

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  • @livinglondonhistory
    @livinglondonhistory  2 месяца назад +114

    Find out more info here: stethelburgas.org. The spaces can be hired out for peaceful events and weddings etc with the money going back into the maintenance of this historic building

    • @mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311
      @mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311 2 месяца назад +11

      I'd love to see the Muslims put up a little wendy house church in one of their mosques......

    • @duncanbryson1167
      @duncanbryson1167 Месяц назад

      I'm not seeing responses to comments though there are comments with numbers indicating that there are responses. This is the case with every video I've looked at.

    • @DJKSB58
      @DJKSB58 Месяц назад +1

      I can imagine the acoustics would be great for classical concerts

  • @logwhitley
    @logwhitley 2 месяца назад +1066

    I worked on the Restoration of this Church.

    • @dmt1621
      @dmt1621 2 месяца назад

      Guess what no one gives a flying fuck

    • @Pindolene
      @Pindolene 2 месяца назад +25

      Wow that must have been amazing! What did you get to do?

    • @dynamo_spade
      @dynamo_spade 2 месяца назад +5

      what's the japanese / burman connection ? !

    • @TG-ts3xn
      @TG-ts3xn 2 месяца назад +53

      Nice! Well done!
      It’s a shame it’s lost all its English heritage now though.

    • @conductorcammon
      @conductorcammon 2 месяца назад +5

      Cool.

  • @Bedmoments
    @Bedmoments 2 месяца назад +356

    There is an even smaller one in Dover, ST Edmonds. It was nearly pulled down, was also used as a blacksmith’s.
    It was a chapel for pilgrims making their way to Canterbury cathedral, some didn’t make it and were given their funeral in this chapel.
    I renewed my wedding vows in this chapel a few years ago and it was very beautiful.
    It was said to be the first wedding recorded at this chapel.

    • @bernadettekavanagh9984
      @bernadettekavanagh9984 Месяц назад +7

      How about doing a RUclips video for it.?

    • @Bedmoments
      @Bedmoments Месяц назад +6

      @@bernadettekavanagh9984 Thankfully I have managed to get myself out of Dover since than and I’m happily settled in a much better place. Dover has a rich history but the place has gone downhill and is now unrecognisable to its once proud and decent days.

    • @longiusaescius2537
      @longiusaescius2537 Месяц назад +3

      @Bedmoments I can't imagine living in Pakistan in the first place

    • @ToothbrushMan
      @ToothbrushMan Месяц назад

      ​@@longiusaescius2537
      Another racist

    • @Lostachilles
      @Lostachilles Месяц назад

      ​@@longiusaescius2537 stop being a racist prick.

  • @siobhanparker6221
    @siobhanparker6221 2 месяца назад +142

    Used to pass this church regularly when I lived in London. Thanks for fantastic nuggets of history and information.

  • @MrRedTux
    @MrRedTux 2 месяца назад +94

    So some little known trivia about the place. Before the bombing there was an Eagle Scout project to restore the finish on the pews using the original ancient formula. Sadly the Bishopsgate bombing destroyed the work. (The American School In London had a Boy Scout Troop associated with it which was part of the US scouting system)

  • @AndrewKendall71
    @AndrewKendall71 28 дней назад +53

    It's fairly telling-and should be a challenge to Anglicans in London-that post-explosion, the church didn't return to worship there, and that a "center for reconciliation and peace" took its place, as though a church wouldn't be a center for reconciliation and peace.

    • @ChaniKynes-xc8qi
      @ChaniKynes-xc8qi 9 дней назад +8

      It clearly didn't work on you, though Andrew. No hate like Christian love.

    • @AndrewKendall71
      @AndrewKendall71 9 дней назад +11

      @@ChaniKynes-xc8qi What didn't work on me? The explosion dissuading my participation in the Christian faith, or that I'd be compelled somehow to see Islam as reconciling and peaceful? Also, "hate." Definitions matter. Though, I'll absolutely admit there are plenty of Christians who act more out of fear than love.

    • @albertsmyth9616
      @albertsmyth9616 9 дней назад

      Couldn’t agree with you more @AndrewKendall71. Sad that so called ‘liberals’ (who are anything but in reality) see freedom of worship as something to be denigrated and denied; as the laicisation of this church proves. Where there is love, they choose to see nothing but hate. As Christ Himself said; “If the world hates you, understand that it hated me first.”

    • @sonwig5186
      @sonwig5186 3 дня назад

      There was barely anyone attending it. It's better served as a centre for reconciliation and peace - a very important idea in our time.

    • @AndrewKendall71
      @AndrewKendall71 2 дня назад +2

      @@sonwig5186 I figure barely anyone attended in the end. I'm just saying a church *should* have been a thriving source of reconciliation and peace.

  • @dorothysay8327
    @dorothysay8327 2 месяца назад +403

    How unutterably sad that the IRA would trash this ANCIENT and venerable place of worship. What monsters.

    • @Sirius_Boner
      @Sirius_Boner 2 месяца назад

      Two wrongs don't make a right.
      However, this is a result of more than a century of extreme oppression.

    • @monicanath4859
      @monicanath4859 2 месяца назад +114

      @@Fred-wb5nzfair enough but it is still a shame.

    • @VikiStorm
      @VikiStorm 2 месяца назад +8

      But who actual built it......

    • @vulpes7079
      @vulpes7079 2 месяца назад +59

      ​@@Fred-wb5nz yes, indeed. An eye for an eye, two wrongs make a right!

    • @rosemaryallen2128
      @rosemaryallen2128 2 месяца назад +124

      ​@@Fred-wb5nzEven as someone who has spent much energy deploring the 1000 years of English maltreatment of the Irish, I am still in agreement with the writer's condemnation.

  • @enekervis
    @enekervis Месяц назад +196

    A Bedouin tent in response to 9/11? How does that make sense?

    • @Kualabear02
      @Kualabear02 Месяц назад +100

      It seems this beautiful church is continuing to turn the other cheek…. And then it will become a mosque.

    • @petercarrington948
      @petercarrington948 Месяц назад +32

      Anything goes 'Church' .

    • @jacquesparpaing3217
      @jacquesparpaing3217 Месяц назад

      These leftards are so fucked up… according to them, if you don’t do that you are thinking all Muslims are terrorists 🤷‍♂️

    • @DavidZ4-gg3dm
      @DavidZ4-gg3dm Месяц назад +41

      @@Kualabear02 It looks ridiculously out of place.

    • @AbiNomac
      @AbiNomac Месяц назад +23

      Not good

  • @DeannaSt
    @DeannaSt 24 дня назад +37

    That’s nice, I bet in Mecca or Medina they have a Protestant church too to teach people good will and understanding… and it’s obviously working big time.

    • @dtrjr6157
      @dtrjr6157 4 дня назад +5

      And thus not all cultures/religions are equal. Well-said.

    • @sonwig5186
      @sonwig5186 3 дня назад

      Oh come the fuck on, all the muslims I know are really nice. Can you not spread this divisive rubbish, its as bad for this country as anything else.

  • @redmi9834
    @redmi9834 2 месяца назад +116

    I used to gp there in the 1980's. There was an old priest that used to offer the Tridentine Mass without server. Some busybody in the foyer tried to stop me entering the church telling me it was a private Mass with no congregation. This was before the days of Pope Benedicts indult.

    • @SanteeNellie
      @SanteeNellie 2 месяца назад +3

      England had an indult before pope Benedict gave one for the whole church 😊

    • @redmi9834
      @redmi9834 Месяц назад +7

      @@SanteeNellie True. It did thanks to Cardinal Heenan. But it was only granted occasionally to groups like the Latin Mass Society and a few elderly priests who wanted to continue using the Tridentine Rite. It was by no means on-demand. I was refused my polite requests three times by three different Bishops. Cardinal Hume was one of them.

    • @mmyr8ado.360
      @mmyr8ado.360 Месяц назад +13

      Then you have to wonder why the IRA would target that particular church at all. It seems they do not see the Catholics in England as brothers.

    • @Candlemancer
      @Candlemancer 24 дня назад

      ​@@mmyr8ado.360 because the IRA are violent psychos looking for an excuse.

    • @deus_ex_machina_
      @deus_ex_machina_ 15 дней назад +2

      ​@@mmyr8ado.360 Apparently they meant to target the Stock Exchange, but they got spooked by a cop and hid the bomb in the church.

  • @DL_2019
    @DL_2019 2 месяца назад +67

    Bedouin tent -with prayer mats for islamic prayers? In a former church!!!!

    • @NoMan-pp1jq
      @NoMan-pp1jq 2 месяца назад +19

      You answered yourself. It’s a former church.

    • @localforeigner9528
      @localforeigner9528 2 месяца назад

      Oh shut up. The mayor will make them all have a reserved room for bumintheair worship soon. Get used to it. 😂

    • @kristelbrok998
      @kristelbrok998 2 месяца назад

      Oh no, a former church set to be torn down, has been turned into a place promoting peace! 😱 And it allows people of all religions in there to worship?! SOMEONE CALL THE MORAL POLICE!

    • @silverhawkscape2677
      @silverhawkscape2677 2 месяца назад

      ​@@NoMan-pp1jq A Symbol of the Islamic Conquest of England.

    • @Iamjustabug
      @Iamjustabug 2 месяца назад +19

      Yes, because all religions are welcome in this country, not just your favourite one. The most popular census response is atheist, so even though we are a "Christian country" in title, we are not any where near Christian overall anymore. I've met far more Muslims than Christians in my life time living here. It's within their rights to have places of worship, whether that building used to be a Christian Church or not

  • @qarljohnson4971
    @qarljohnson4971 2 месяца назад +74

    The "bedouin tent" looks more like a classic yurt.

    • @ScottJB
      @ScottJB Месяц назад +28

      As someone who has been in a real Bedouin tent village in Jordan, you are entirely correct

    • @lambert801
      @lambert801 Месяц назад +7

      It is a classic yurt.

    • @islanddryad
      @islanddryad Месяц назад +6

      @@stefanleonardo9734 why?

    • @spacewolfcub
      @spacewolfcub Месяц назад +11

      Either way I’m glad the building is being used for such a deeply compassionate purpose as cultural reconciliation. ❤

    • @ogribiker8535
      @ogribiker8535 Месяц назад +3

      @@stefanleonardo9734 It has every right to be there

  • @G0RSHK0V
    @G0RSHK0V 2 месяца назад +105

    Sad to hear they couldn't restore it back to being a church

    • @logwhitley
      @logwhitley 2 месяца назад +22

      The Church of England decided to change it to a 'center for peace and reconciliation '. This area of London is not really populated out of work hours.

    • @localforeigner9528
      @localforeigner9528 2 месяца назад +28

      ​@logwhitley Not entirely true. They actually wanted to demolish it. It was public outcry that saved it.

    • @logwhitley
      @logwhitley 2 месяца назад

      @@localforeigner9528 what is untrue?

    • @RockDove5212
      @RockDove5212 2 месяца назад

      ​@@wisdumbteethI hope you're going to be that cocky on Judgement Day ...

    • @starlinguk
      @starlinguk 2 месяца назад +6

      It's a similar story to the Gedächtniskirche in Hamburg and the Kaiser Wilhelm memorial in Berlin. They wanted to tear them down but they were kept as memorials instead.

  • @zabs1671
    @zabs1671 2 месяца назад +149

    I love this part of London. So pretty and so many stories to discover!

    • @sparagmos4748
      @sparagmos4748 2 месяца назад +5

      I live just north of here - I will never leave London!

    • @HouseWinchester1874
      @HouseWinchester1874 2 месяца назад

      @@sparagmos4748 Wait till diversity reaches you.

    • @citizen1163
      @citizen1163 2 месяца назад +5

      ​@@sparagmos4748 You might not leave London but is 'London' leaving you?

    • @sparagmos4748
      @sparagmos4748 2 месяца назад +3

      @@citizen1163 I guess you are referring to changes? London, like most big cities is always changing.
      If that is what you are referring to then no, London is NOT leaving me!🤨

    • @citizen1163
      @citizen1163 2 месяца назад +7

      @@sparagmos4748 My multi ethnic London family been in London for many many generations BUT since Blair opened borders the influx is unsustainable.

  • @Ed19601
    @Ed19601 2 месяца назад +112

    A bedouin tent as reaction on 9-11? so kinda like having a Lederhosen exhibtion as a reaction on de Luftwaffe bombing London during the Battle of Britain?

    • @cosmicmuffin322
      @cosmicmuffin322 2 месяца назад +35

      Yes that is..... bizarre lol

    • @angrytedtalks
      @angrytedtalks 2 месяца назад +26

      The bedouin had nothing to do with the IRA, WWII, churches or 911.
      Lederhosen are a Bavarian outfit, not anything to do with the Luftwaffe or WWII or 911 or the IRA.
      I think you are drawing parallels where there are none.

    • @nicholasc.5944
      @nicholasc.5944 2 месяца назад +20

      Why do you feel the need to make everything so divisive

    • @Ed19601
      @Ed19601 2 месяца назад +14

      @@angrytedtalks so it is a great comparison

    • @Ed19601
      @Ed19601 2 месяца назад +16

      @@nicholasc.5944 Why do you feel the need to act dumb, or is that just natural

  • @dinothedragonet8757
    @dinothedragonet8757 Месяц назад +12

    I love how it says "peace" on the door inside

  • @wollyrosekaufe4363
    @wollyrosekaufe4363 Месяц назад +6

    isn't the "beduin tent" actually a mongolic yurt?

  • @cmnyc4286
    @cmnyc4286 Месяц назад +8

    This reminds me of our remarkable St. Paul's Chapel (lower Manhattan, NYC, USA) which survived The Great Fire of 1776 (Revolutionary War) as well as 9/11 (directly across street - where all of the First Responders would go to relax, get water, food, massages, etc. The cemetery behind it was completely blackened and covered with ashes and its fence walls were covered by posters of missing people for months. Still there and a wonderful piece of history if you ever visit NYC! It's half 9/11 memorial (not to be confused with the formal one) and half church.

  • @Spangletiger
    @Spangletiger 2 месяца назад +8

    It's such a lovely, tranquil venue! I went there once to hear Baluji Shrivastav perform, ages ago. Definitely need to visit it again! Thank you for featuring this wonderful building on your channel.

  • @AM-mv6ro
    @AM-mv6ro 2 месяца назад +68

    As a Muslim living in London, it’s very sad to see many beautiful churches are empty across the country

    • @wattyler2994
      @wattyler2994 2 месяца назад +4

      I agree

    • @vulpes7079
      @vulpes7079 2 месяца назад +20

      "As a Muslim"

    • @AM-mv6ro
      @AM-mv6ro 2 месяца назад +23

      @@vulpes7079 why have you replied with "as a muslim" - are you trying to get at something?

    • @alexdiaconu7979
      @alexdiaconu7979 2 месяца назад +33

      Wondering who is replacing them and with what 🤔

    • @AmazinglyAwkward
      @AmazinglyAwkward 2 месяца назад +22

      Christianity is declining in Britain, as is having any faith in general. I agree though that it is sad to see historic buildings lay empty, they could definitely be given a new purpose!

  • @Koopsas
    @Koopsas 2 месяца назад +79

    Lol, I literally attended a wedding here last weekend. Super lovely venue, great having a few drinks out back in a tent bookended on all sides by skyscrapers. Plus they let me ring the bell!

    • @localforeigner9528
      @localforeigner9528 2 месяца назад +1

      Was it dandy? Ringing the bell? 😂

    • @Koopsas
      @Koopsas 2 месяца назад

      @@localforeigner9528 it was fun but they did tell me I gave it a bit too solid a tug 🫣

    • @noradinneen1
      @noradinneen1 2 месяца назад +4

      How cool!

    • @geeman4041
      @geeman4041 2 месяца назад +3

      Sounds super lovely 🙄

  • @risk5riskmks93
    @risk5riskmks93 Месяц назад +24

    And did that act of vandalism change anything? Improve anyone’s life? No. It only destroyed an object of beauty.

    • @SanctusPaulus1962
      @SanctusPaulus1962 27 дней назад +2

      Calling a terrorist bombing an "act of vandalism" is certainly a massive understatement.

    • @Goblin_Wizard
      @Goblin_Wizard 27 дней назад +1

      yup freedom fighters are always wrong, I hate freedom

  • @victoriaspharmacy491
    @victoriaspharmacy491 2 месяца назад +58

    Now let the mosque incorporate part of a church in it

    • @TG-ts3xn
      @TG-ts3xn 2 месяца назад +2

      Ha

    • @TraceyAOK
      @TraceyAOK 2 месяца назад +1

      😂😂

    • @uncletiggermclaren7592
      @uncletiggermclaren7592 2 месяца назад +19

      More than one has done exactly that. You DO understand that they share a "god" with the other two Abraham-ic religions?.

    • @emilydavison2053
      @emilydavison2053 2 месяца назад +9

      Visit the mesquita in cordoba, Spain. A beautiful mosque with an incongruous, gaudy, catholic thing stuck in the middle.

    • @hetrodoxlysonov-wh9oo
      @hetrodoxlysonov-wh9oo 2 месяца назад

      @@emilydavison2053 There had been a Church on the site of the Cathedral of Our Lady of the Assumption before the invasion of the Muslim hordes.

  • @amyisafoxfull3350
    @amyisafoxfull3350 2 месяца назад +21

    Wow, I will never stop being amazed by London and Londoners ❤

  • @FRADAVE02
    @FRADAVE02 2 месяца назад +12

    Saint Ethelburger kind of sounds pre-Norman to me! 😊

    • @emmirey4640
      @emmirey4640 2 месяца назад +2

      exactly. A shift from pagan Ethylred. Pre 1066.

    • @onecupof_tea
      @onecupof_tea 2 месяца назад +1

      There's an Ethelburger Estate, just past Battersea Bridge towards Clapham Junction.

    • @Matt_Alaric
      @Matt_Alaric 2 месяца назад +9

      @@emmirey4640 The English had been Christian for centuries before 1066 so the chance of Ethelburg being pagan are essentially 0.

    • @marrrtin
      @marrrtin Месяц назад +1

      I'd say the Normans actively suppressed the worship of native English saints such as Ethelburga.

  • @vickikay54
    @vickikay54 2 месяца назад +40

    What a waste of space!! Reconciliation?? Bedouin tent!!! Absolute joke!

    • @MattTheEngineer.
      @MattTheEngineer. 2 месяца назад +11

      What are you trying to convey here

    • @ChayBode
      @ChayBode 2 месяца назад +18

      @@MattTheEngineer. I think he is saying it sounds like another church turned into a mosque, what did you think he was saying?

    • @vickikay54
      @vickikay54 2 месяца назад +1

      The fact that a christian church stood there for hundreds of years, and now it's a place catering to minorities.

    • @happychappy2b252
      @happychappy2b252 2 месяца назад +19

      I think it's an excellent idea, we need more forward thinkers bringing differing people together

    • @vickikay54
      @vickikay54 2 месяца назад

      ​@@MattTheEngineer. The fact that a christian church stood here for hundreds of years, now it's catering to minority groups.

  • @bucketree
    @bucketree 2 месяца назад +7

    Omg cant wait to get back to the UK to tour all your London haunts I didn’t discover despite wandering around for a year there , do you run tours?

  • @cherylsemrau7100
    @cherylsemrau7100 2 месяца назад +29

    A church should always be a church. Should not turn it into anything else.

    • @_Piers_
      @_Piers_ 29 дней назад

      The vast majority of churches in the UK have already been demolished because they're entirely unwanted.

  • @ArnoBach
    @ArnoBach Месяц назад +19

    Blasphemous choices.

  • @rubendon2241
    @rubendon2241 2 месяца назад +8

    Thank you for the information about the history of the church ❤.

  • @Lizard797
    @Lizard797 2 месяца назад +4

    I walk past there every week and always wondered what it was. Love London ❤

  • @Joemccxc
    @Joemccxc 2 месяца назад +43

    Really horrible what has become of it. I’d much prefer it to be a real church.

    • @DenkyManner
      @DenkyManner 2 месяца назад +22

      Promoting peace across cultural divides is horrible?

    • @wattyler2994
      @wattyler2994 2 месяца назад +12

      Yes I agree and what's more I don't believe they couldn't have fully restored it to what it was like before the bombing. Too many of the remaining churches in the city are under threat of "redundancy". Considering the background of the current Archbishop of Canterbury you would also have thought he could use that previous experience with his former colleagues to raise funds to repair and keep them open.

    • @Trethan3266
      @Trethan3266 2 месяца назад +10

      What? How is that horrible? Sounds much better than a church to me.

    • @wattyler2994
      @wattyler2994 2 месяца назад +3

      @@DenkyManner yes but you Don't have to turn it into pagan temple to do that

    • @happychappy2b252
      @happychappy2b252 2 месяца назад +8

      ​@@wattyler2994that is an incorrect and inappropriate representation of what has been created. We need more such places, thinking and action. Open minds

  • @illumencouk
    @illumencouk Месяц назад +6

    Note the proximity and pattern of the glass skyscraper. It's a modern 'tower of Babel.'

    • @simonhadley8829
      @simonhadley8829 Месяц назад +2

      It looks like a giant glass dong.

    • @islanddryad
      @islanddryad Месяц назад +4

      That’s a bit of a stretch friend

    • @Candlemancer
      @Candlemancer 24 дня назад +2

      ​@@islanddryad what do you expect from insane people?

  • @clairecaldwell1611
    @clairecaldwell1611 12 дней назад +6

    A church being repurposed into a mosque is the most hilariously modern-London thing I've ever seen.

  • @ianofliverpool7701
    @ianofliverpool7701 2 месяца назад +40

    They took a beautiful ancient church and shit on it.

    • @whocareseh1
      @whocareseh1 2 месяца назад +1

      😢

    • @sueheck1836
      @sueheck1836 Месяц назад +2

      What a disgrace

    • @travcollier
      @travcollier Месяц назад

      Who is they? You did hear the part about the IRA blowing it up, right? Seems like dedicating its mission to reconciliation is pretty fitting... One might even call it very Christian.

    • @goose9515
      @goose9515 Месяц назад +2

      I wonder if the 1 million people who starved in Ireland while they were exporting food to Britain would have anything to say about that🤔

    • @Gnomestein
      @Gnomestein Месяц назад

      ​@@goose9515 probably not since dead people don't speak

  • @Andre_APM
    @Andre_APM 2 месяца назад +72

    What a heart warming new purpose this building has.

    • @howtubeable
      @howtubeable 2 месяца назад +11

      It's not heartwarming. It's depressing. An active church is now a meeting center/wedding venue.

    • @wildeyshere_paulkersey853
      @wildeyshere_paulkersey853 2 месяца назад

      It's not heart warming you fool. They've twisted it's purpose.

    • @Davie-jx4rh
      @Davie-jx4rh 2 месяца назад +17

      @@howtubeableit’s dedicated to peace rather than a single religion.
      I’d say it’s gained purpose.
      Is is sad that the architecture was destroyed, though

    • @alundavies1016
      @alundavies1016 2 месяца назад +11

      @@howtubeablelots of empty churches in the UK, most are falling down or being turned into houses. What is wrong with the purpose this one has been put to?

    • @TG-ts3xn
      @TG-ts3xn 2 месяца назад

      Not really. Just more erasure of England and its culture.

  • @coffeefish94
    @coffeefish94 2 месяца назад +28

    Destroyed by terrorists who were cowardly pardoned under the Good Friday Agreement

    • @feargal2433
      @feargal2433 2 месяца назад

      Northern Ireland Troubles (Legacy & Reconciliation) Act 2023.
      A cowardly piece of legislation to protect British politicians and military personnel from being held responsible for criminal actions.

    • @sodapop8368
      @sodapop8368 2 месяца назад +8

      Oooo looks like someone is hoping for a surprise when they start their car!

    • @Matt_Alaric
      @Matt_Alaric 2 месяца назад

      @@sodapop8368 Sinn Fein and the IRA are too busy these days fighting actual Irish people who don't support the third world colonisation going on over there.

    • @Dreyno
      @Dreyno Месяц назад

      Only people convicted of crimes and it was early release, not pardons. That’s why British soldiers aren’t covered, because they were never tried for their crimes.

    • @Matt_Alaric
      @Matt_Alaric Месяц назад

      @@Dreyno There were no crimes to be tried for. Only the terrorists committed those.

  • @tendies9248
    @tendies9248 2 месяца назад +10

    Why would we want an arab tent in the church ? Thats a shame because its nothing to do with that site

    • @JoseighBlogs
      @JoseighBlogs 6 дней назад

      It not an 'Arab tent' it's of the style of a Mongolian Yurt.

  • @renavaleh576
    @renavaleh576 2 месяца назад +5

    I had a birthday event there a few years ago. Loved it, especially when we all gathered in the tent when it rained. It was August in London so no surprise.

  • @Jh19999
    @Jh19999 2 месяца назад +25

    Surprised its not a mosque

    • @Matt_Alaric
      @Matt_Alaric 2 месяца назад +3

      Seems the CofE tried their best to make it into one.

    • @starstencahl8985
      @starstencahl8985 Месяц назад

      At least they put a beduine tent in the backyard…

    • @danmorgan3685
      @danmorgan3685 Месяц назад +2

      Sure kid.

  • @andrejlvov3236
    @andrejlvov3236 2 месяца назад +18

    And again ruined an important church to make an Islamic center

    • @limitlessLtd
      @limitlessLtd 2 месяца назад +8

      Diverse Britain and muliculturalism are important to people that hate the UK.

    • @goose9515
      @goose9515 Месяц назад +4

      Racist

    • @ChuffedLemon
      @ChuffedLemon Месяц назад +1

      It’s areligious and nondenominational. I guess critical thinking is hard, huh?

    • @limitlessLtd
      @limitlessLtd Месяц назад

      Its ok to destroy British history guys because ​@@ChuffedLemon says its an "areligious and nondenominational" islamic center... Now go to an islamic country and ask for a mosque to be converted to a "areligious and nondenominational" church, see how long you last.

    • @limitlessLtd
      @limitlessLtd Месяц назад

      @@ChuffedLemon Can I see a mosque in an islamic country thats been converted to an "areligious and nondenominational" church?

  • @tildal.
    @tildal. 2 месяца назад +40

    wow this comment section is just... really went downhill

    • @alextorch4738
      @alextorch4738 2 месяца назад +3

      Yeah

    • @goose9515
      @goose9515 Месяц назад +13

      Peoples comments about Muslims and the Irish prove why we NEED organisations that bring peace between different groups such as the one that's based in this church

    • @farziltheweebo4841
      @farziltheweebo4841 Месяц назад

      True​@@goose9515

    • @TylerD288
      @TylerD288 Месяц назад +3

      Lot's of racists nowadays.

    • @____________________________.x
      @____________________________.x Месяц назад +6

      @@goose9515nobody voted for infinity migrants, fix the issue and rediscover how peaceful this land was 💁‍♂️

  • @EyeLean5280
    @EyeLean5280 Месяц назад +7

    A small but great example of why colonization harms the colonizers as well as the colonized. Glad it's been rebuilt.

  • @Tsukonin
    @Tsukonin 14 дней назад +2

    Was turned into a woke propaganda center, what a shame!

  • @lacybookworm5039
    @lacybookworm5039 Месяц назад +7

    Places like this church and it’s transformation into a center for reconciliation and peace give me hope.

  • @ToppyTree
    @ToppyTree 2 месяца назад +11

    Beautiful

  • @ambergris5705
    @ambergris5705 10 дней назад

    I remember being struck by this little church nestled right next to the huge skyscraper. I also remember learning that it was a centre for reconciliation, but I didn't know it had a beduin building at the back! I would love to visit the centre now.

  • @dalidoe4537
    @dalidoe4537 Месяц назад +2

    You have a great Channel.🤓
    Good education...🤓
    🤓🙂‍↔️

  • @henryh2429
    @henryh2429 Месяц назад +17

    english history knocks spot of everyone elses

    • @WolfbloodJakeWilliams
      @WolfbloodJakeWilliams Месяц назад

      Nah. I'm British and while I'll stand by the quality of our history, we have fair match ups with Italy, Greece, Turkey, Iran, Ethiopia, India, China, and Japan.

    • @sammyb1651
      @sammyb1651 Месяц назад

      @@WolfbloodJakeWilliams Certainly true in terms of it's ancient nature. Obviously you'd add the likes of Egypt to that too. I think ours is the most interesting and beautiful though.

  • @MusabAksakal
    @MusabAksakal Месяц назад +1

    As an Aussie living in London, I walk past here everyday at work to grab my cuppa Joe and didn’t even realise this 😂

  • @enriqola360
    @enriqola360 12 дней назад

    Talk about resiliency. I love this little treasure in London. Must visit it next time I make it there again.

  • @chiarac3833
    @chiarac3833 Месяц назад +2

    It's lovely that something so ancient is being used as a modern symbol of peace and unity.

  • @_Sorry_Not_Sorry
    @_Sorry_Not_Sorry 2 месяца назад +2

    Wow that's beautiful 😍

  • @blakegoulds8313
    @blakegoulds8313 2 месяца назад +10

    I promise you, when the time comes, they won't return the favor. The barbarians aren't at the gates. You let them in and put them on benefits. You bloody fools.

  • @stonesinmyblood27
    @stonesinmyblood27 2 месяца назад +26

    It’s an insult to western culture

    • @kristelbrok998
      @kristelbrok998 2 месяца назад +8

      Why?

    • @chriss4432
      @chriss4432 2 месяца назад +4

      You don't know why... that's why... because the heritage is being removed..

    • @kristelbrok998
      @kristelbrok998 2 месяца назад +9

      @@chriss4432 it isnt, though? It's an abandoned church, so it'll still have a rich history attached to it, simply because of it's age and location.
      Having it be a center for (amongst other things) peace is, in my opinion, just another piece of history in the making, and a very noble value to instill in a building, which has been tied to an institution that historically hasnt been very peaceful and loving

    • @chriss4432
      @chriss4432 2 месяца назад +2

      Yeah.. wooosh.

    • @limitlessLtd
      @limitlessLtd 2 месяца назад +1

      Agreed

  • @sjwilloughby-greene8214
    @sjwilloughby-greene8214 Месяц назад +1

    Beautiful inside and out. 🌿♥️✌️♥️🌿

  • @ChloeCaw
    @ChloeCaw 2 месяца назад +13

    I find it ironic that this comment section is the exact opposite of the values that the nonprofit is based on: building relationships across divisions of conflict and culture.

  • @davew4998
    @davew4998 Месяц назад +1

    And now there is no conflict in the world. Ah, the power of prayer.

  • @RelaxingPlatypus39
    @RelaxingPlatypus39 2 месяца назад +7

    I love that they made it stand for unity instead of division. Wish more places were like that. ❤

  • @anthonysylvester4486
    @anthonysylvester4486 Месяц назад

    I used to walk past the church in 2013 when I was working on a building site near it.i used to think who would bother going to this little old church .

  • @Mustafiz1972
    @Mustafiz1972 2 месяца назад +5

    These nooks and crannies of London are what endears the city to me the most.

  • @cs_fl5048
    @cs_fl5048 23 дня назад +1

    A good excuse for england to close another church in favor of a mini-mosque. Is there a single cross in it? or just lots of foreign icons??

  • @mgoo1713
    @mgoo1713 2 месяца назад +16

    The Irish have never been on the right side of history

    • @paddymac5161
      @paddymac5161 2 месяца назад +10

      That would be abit rich coming from a british person.

    • @Troub1e
      @Troub1e 2 месяца назад

      @@paddymac5161 Yeah bloody Scots.

    • @george_da4860
      @george_da4860 2 месяца назад +6

      ​@@paddymac5161 for real. im english but the only people who support what we did in ireland either dont know history or profited off it

    • @goose9515
      @goose9515 Месяц назад +1

      Ireland is famous for it's citizens volunteering as UN Peacekeepers, So good to know that an English person wants people to live in warzones

    • @Dreyno
      @Dreyno Месяц назад

      Says absolutely nobody outside of Britain. The irony.

  • @Jjjkluejnek
    @Jjjkluejnek День назад

    So sad to see the spirit of this country being vacant and towered over by sky scrapers. Goes to show the thing we value most is money and ego over morality and ethics.

  • @arfriedman4577
    @arfriedman4577 29 дней назад

    Im American. Thanks for showing me a beautiful historical church.

  • @Sherirose1
    @Sherirose1 2 месяца назад +3

    I pass here many times. I will check it out.

  • @raghavkaushik9985
    @raghavkaushik9985 22 дня назад +1

    Every now and then raves are hosted in this church.
    I've been there 4 times for a rave 😂

  • @braves9652
    @braves9652 Месяц назад

    Beautiful things are often hidden.

  • @hieronymus..bosch8532
    @hieronymus..bosch8532 Месяц назад +1

    As opposed to a all profit church .....

  • @Unknown_Revolver
    @Unknown_Revolver 5 дней назад

    I worked here once it’s such an amazing church

  • @briancase6180
    @briancase6180 2 месяца назад +1

    1300th century.... That's the 1200s! Yikes. Amazing.

  • @user-fq3hl5fv6t
    @user-fq3hl5fv6t Месяц назад

    Had a party in there last month

  • @evelynmatt2000
    @evelynmatt2000 Месяц назад +5

    The best part is the end, where the church embraced tragedy with love rather than hate. Buillding a place of understanding and reconciliation!

    • @Kualabear02
      @Kualabear02 Месяц назад +3

      Look around you though, it’s not working.

    • @evelynmatt2000
      @evelynmatt2000 Месяц назад +4

      I just said this place is doing that . The world is another matter entirely. I’m not a religious person, was once, not anymore. It was nice to see one place trying to be the change, we all need.

  • @haggerz84
    @haggerz84 26 дней назад

    Thus kinda reminds me of a very similar sized blue church in Tenerife. Cant remember for the life of me where in Tenerife it is, but it was there 13 years ago.

  • @michaelharrison3602
    @michaelharrison3602 9 дней назад

    I love these city churches there's quite a few that survived the blitz and the great fire like
    St marry axe its close to the gherkin. In the space of a few yards you have a medieval church a 21st century steel and glass tower victorian and Georgian architecture this is one of the things I love about London you are walking through history
    I can spend a whole day wandering around the city just looking at churches and buildings there are many other churches designed by Christopher wren and Nicholas Hawksmore
    One of my favourite places is St Dunstan's in the east on Eastcheap its an Oasis of calm and peace in the heart of the hectic city of London it's one of my favourite places to just sit and have a coffee there's another on the corner of Newgate Street. I've been to Paris ,Rome and Athens but
    I find walking around London more interesting than any of them. I've been
    here 73 years but I'm still discovering hidden gems

  • @spookisghostly4619
    @spookisghostly4619 4 дня назад

    Imagine being hundreds of years old just to be overshadowed by the gherkin 💀

  • @karensnowden962
    @karensnowden962 17 дней назад

    Love it. Thank You. Wish I could go there.

  • @franciemontgomery2935
    @franciemontgomery2935 2 месяца назад +1

    What a wonderful story!

  • @eschwarz1003
    @eschwarz1003 Месяц назад

    Very cool. That nonprofit must be very busy of late period

  • @BMoney8600
    @BMoney8600 Месяц назад +1

    This is super cool

  • @dingdong8608
    @dingdong8608 2 месяца назад +5

    I thought it was an entrance to Diagon Alley 💀

  • @MichaelSHartman
    @MichaelSHartman 2 месяца назад +14

    Bring eastern means make it Islamic.

  • @jimmycakes7158
    @jimmycakes7158 2 месяца назад +1

    God damn ira...

  • @davidc4408
    @davidc4408 29 дней назад

    Can I buy this. Would make a great luxury residential skyscraper

  • @benny_lemon5123
    @benny_lemon5123 2 месяца назад +5

    I could pray there. What a beautiful place ❤

  • @markhughes7927
    @markhughes7927 26 дней назад

    St Ethelburga as globalist shill!😂

  • @davidthedeaf
    @davidthedeaf Месяц назад +5

    They adulterated the church of God to add Islam. The building should have been left in pieces and remembered as what it was for.

    • @_Piers_
      @_Piers_ 29 дней назад

      You know, maybe you should try to learn about the history of a place or it's current settings before having an upset little rant.
      They didn't 'add islam' and it's curious that islam is the only religion you'd bring up in a centre used by people of any faith.
      Would you have preferred it if they'd reinstated the shops that occupied the front of the building for centuries?

  • @rolmaguiland21
    @rolmaguiland21 Месяц назад +1

    Thank you 🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @jbleeuk
    @jbleeuk 6 дней назад

    If its restored so much can it still be claimed as 13th century?

  • @a.b.2850
    @a.b.2850 Месяц назад

    I want to visit London so bad. I want to be dropped there and walk every street for a week or two 😊

  • @OverAndOver303
    @OverAndOver303 Месяц назад +1

    Thats nice but eastern architecture isn't described by a bedouin tent. That's just an insult to 1400 years developing exquisite and complex architectural techniques and styles exemplified in Baghdad, Jerusalem, Cairo, Isfahan, Istanbul, Tunis, Fez, Andalusia etc.

    • @Kualabear02
      @Kualabear02 Месяц назад

      The colonies of the Arab empire. 👍🏻

  • @qarljohnson4971
    @qarljohnson4971 4 дня назад

    That's a Monglian design YURT.
    Not Bedouine.

  • @louiseturner9811
    @louiseturner9811 23 дня назад

    Well it's better than transforming it into a house 🏠.

  • @MajorJakas
    @MajorJakas Месяц назад +1

    9/11 made the church adopt Islamic culture? This is why I'm non-denominational Protestant.

  • @clincpb8903
    @clincpb8903 Месяц назад +1

    Can we visit it ?

  • @stephenandersen4625
    @stephenandersen4625 Месяц назад +2

    It’s no longer a church. Stop calling it that.

    • @_Piers_
      @_Piers_ 29 дней назад

      It's a church, you can tell by the way it looks and by its former use.
      If it was turned into flats or used as a shop *again* it would still be a church.
      This church is more of a church than the majority of other churches that have been abandoned, this one is still owned by the church.
      You're just obviously not from the UK.

  • @marlan5470
    @marlan5470 Месяц назад +1

    The glass monstrosities in the back just ruined a pretty area of London.

  • @edinsoncavanirespector9078
    @edinsoncavanirespector9078 10 дней назад

    Would love to visit

  • @michiellombaers3198
    @michiellombaers3198 10 дней назад

    Please have the details in your narration correct.
    That's not a Bedouin tent but a yurt from Inner Asia.

  • @bernardmcmahon351
    @bernardmcmahon351 Месяц назад +1

    Very interesting, thanks