@Sean Sebastian Another fine junk journalism! Remember the hidden fact that Hong Kong prospered in the past because of China, since mainland China historically was blocked by the Colonialist Anglo West, and can not export their products directly to outside world; thus Hong Kong came in, and basically acted as a middle man, relabeling products from China and taking commission on them. Besides, these Protest groups/ organizations that Capitalist West helps set up in place like Hong Kong are nothing more than the forefronts of Tit-for-Tat protocol in place, in times of event that their capitalist imperialist interests are threatened; what they basically do is unleash those watch groups and organizations as part of their all out effort to destabilize any region that they feel threaten or simply to expand their interests. Moreover, many ethnic Hong Kong people are working class folks who work for these Western interests, like Western companies and businesses. blog.chinadaily.com.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=894096
What an idiotic title nyt could possibly come up with? Hk afterall is still part of China. If it’s head is not close to the central gov, which gov should she show her loyalty to? To Japan? The us? It’s like writing a piece of news and having a title of “Gavin Newsom is close to Washington”. NYT, could you please come up some meaningful piece that actually serves something else rather than propaganda? What about a piece of the shootings we have in the states and how those tie back to gun control
actually the bill isn't dead yet, more like suspended. During the press conference, she said暫緩in Cantonese, yet when recapping in English, she said 'the bill is dead' instead. 暫緩means suspended. In fact,he has been using different wordings to HK citizens and the foreign countries in the recent press conferences too. If you can, NYT, can you invite some Cantonese-speaking reporters, it would be easier to understand what she really means.
She has no power to withdraw a bill. Only the Legislative Council can vote or deny the bill. If CArrie Lam withdraws a bill without voting, she is violating Hongkongs legislative law and abusing her power. The protesters are asking her to do what they are against, abusing power.
@@sophonblock76 yes but then, the current majority of LegCo members are pro-Chinese so you can say it's quite useless to vote, especially for this extradition law. (Fyi, most citizens know the government is corrupted, esp the pro-Chinese members so this made things worse). There's many things we are protesting against these weeks, we have 5 demands: 1. full withdraw of the extradition law 2. withdrawal of the “riot” characterization of the 6.12 protests 3. unconditional release of all arrested protesters (since most were arrested for no reason) 4. formation of independent commission of inquiry into police behavior (due to police brutality + their absence of police identification proof) 5. universal suffrage
@@shadow67876 Actually the ability to vote for the politicians and the chief executive (aka leader of Hong Kong) like most Western Countries and not elected by the Chinese Government.
She is playing on words to fool the masses.Be specific and not use words that has double meaning. If suspended, the bill can be brought up again when the time is right.Curry Lamb must be sincere to her people.Her mistrust by the people is of her own making? How can she be a leader if the followers want to dump her?? Don't play games . This extradition bill has wide implications and goes against democratic principles.it is a serious matter that concerns every citizen
And please tell me what exactly is considered to be “concerning for her people’s interest”? Are those rioters who disrupt HongKong’s economy so bad despite its already declining concerning for HongKong’s interest?
Lol read the history between China and hk first and k that hk is under two system and one country ofc she has to follow that and look up how these teens are protesting
kalbs89 agreed. There is a reason Hong Kong is considered a place with more “Chinese Immigrants” than natives. Have she forgotten that around the late 40s and early 50s, people risked death to run away from China to Hong Kong to escape China’s strict rule? Calling China a Communist country is a joke, it’s more like a totalitarian Country.
@@d0lvl0 I had a boss claiming she didn't have a vacation day in several years. She traveled all the time and went to all kinds of resorts and had fun at parties and events. Just because she answered a work related email the same day, she counted it as a "working day" lol. Only explanation I can find for this claim.
Events prove that she is a failed leader. Once in power, she ignored the true feelings of the masses.She must exit to bring back some peace to Hong Kong.
There are a lot of idiots in Hong Kong who know nothing but work and complain about how the protest affected their lives. These are the people who supports Carrie Lam to put an end to the violent protests. She believes a lot of people like that support her.
@@teckhohng3870 Hongkongers have been suffering even when the economy was "booming" in the past years. With the sort of corrupt and puppet leaders we have the people of Hong Kong will never get a share of the city's economic success.
Since Hong Kong is a part of China, it would be ridiculous if she does not have tie to China, She is a Chinese, just like the millions HKers. What does NY Times try to say? HK leader should have close tie to UK?
the narcissism of Beijing and Lam is quite amazing... After making decisions for the HK people WITHOUT HK People's approval, they can't take why HK is unhappy with them.
Carrie Lam spoke in English that "the bill is dead" While in her Cantonese speech, she said "暫緩” which means suspend / postpone the deadline. She has played this trick in the past - saying postpone then restart the act when the controversy cool down a bit. One example was her to dismantle the Queen Pier in 2007.
China appointed her as Chief Executive to have a firm grip of Hong Kong's internal governance well before 2047 when the Treaty ends.This has angered the millions of Hongkongers who take to the streets.Now, it has become a big problem that needs a political solution and not just passing more laws to restrict.
Carrie Lam between two fires: no more no less ! I very likely think that the anger and strength of the local population will be able to burn its credibility ! Thanks dear NYT !
The anger of the people is manifested in the chanting and cursing at all the street protests.She refused to quit and gives the excuse it is not easy. What does she really mean?
Hong Kong is officially Hong Kong Special Administrative Region of the People's Republic of China, get your fact and premise right before reporting. Stop misleading the viewers.
We can argue all we like but as of now at this very moment China has lost all hopes in winning hearts and minds of the ppl of HK. When the land is its ppl China can have the land but it has to turn the island into a concentration camp.
2:51 Wrong. Political fugitives are exempt from the bill. Moreover, it has to be a crime in HK of at least 7 years imprisonment for any extradition request is progressed. So brainwashed this people...
As a Hongkonger, I can attest that Mainland China is incredibly cunning (they can get you arrested for fabricated charges, so political prisoners may get taken for non-political reasons). Even if that is not the case here, we are a very paranoid people, considering our past relations with the Mainlanders. Forgive us for our paranoia, especially if you are not a Hongkonger, but WE LIVE A SINGLE BORDER AWAY FROM THE MAINLAND. We have every right to be paranoid, at the very least, or is *that* a crime now, like passing a protest site to purchase/collect schoolbooks and owning laser pointers? (Forgive me, too, for my snarkiness. City life has made me cynical.)
@@mng3941 No matter how cunning China can be, if its not a crime IN HK, like freedom of speech, or freedom of religion, then a fugitive cannot be extradited at all. It MUST be a crime of at least 7 years imprisonment IN HK for an extradition request to progress. And HK independent judiciary has the final say on whether or not the fugitive gets extradited. There nothing wrong with being paranoid. But to hold the city to a standstill, blocking roads, affecting businesses, economy, assaulting police, all theses affecting innocent people, then you are just destroying your city. And pointing lasers at peoples eyes is a criminal offence. A split second can cause permanent damage to ones retina. Police should arrest every single criminal shiny laser onto peoples eyes.
Speaking of which, do you know the hidden fact that Hong Kong prospered in the past because of mainland China, since China historically was blocked by the Colonialist Anglo West, and can not export their products directly to outside world; thus Hong Kong basically acted as a middle man, relabeling products from China and taking commission on it. Moreover, Protest groups/ Human Rights organizations that Capitalist West helps founded in place like Hong Kong are nothing more than the forefronts of Tit-for-Tat protocol in place, in times of event that their capitalist imperialist interests are threatened; what they basically do is unleash those watch groups and organizations as part of their all out effort to destabilize any region that they feel threaten or simply to expand their interests. Besides, many ethnic Hong Kong people are working class folks who work for these Western interests; their companies and businesses. blog.chinadaily.com.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=894096
Hong Kong existed and prospered traditionally all because of mainland China, since China historically was blocked by the Colonialist Anglo West, and can not export their products directly to outside Western world, thus Hong Kong basically acted as a middle man, relabeling products from China and taking commission on it. Moreover, Protest groups/ Human Rights organizations that Capitalist West helps founded in place like Hong Kong are nothing more than the forefronts of Tit-for-Tat protocol in place, in times of event that their capitalist imperialist interests are threatened; what they basically do is unleash those watch groups and organizations as part of their all out effort to destabilize any region that they feel threaten or simply to expand their interests. Besides, many ethnic Hong Kong people are working class folks who work for these Western interests; companies and businesses. blog.chinadaily.com.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=894096
I have visited Hong Kong in 2015 I love the culture and their people are so educated and nice Too bad I’m seeing this right now I hope everything will be placed again with peace ✌🏻
If they stop fighting for their freedom now, they will never get another chance again. They have to stay strong and persistent. Fight for your independence.!
A devout catholic doesn’t guarantee a good catholic. Being devout only means they’re seen as very active in church and worship activities. Like Sunday mass attendance, holy rosary & novenas, and observance of Lent. Here in the Philippines we call bad catholics as “Banal na Aso, Santong Kabayo” (Holy Dogs, Horse Saints). From the outside the like to project an image of good devout catholics. When they’re actually rotten horrible human beings to their fellow man.
@@iMadrid11 i can't believe anyone is catholic anymore...the black pope sits in the vatican ...plus the pope has been involved in ignoring abuses in the church...some say he is a luciferian ...and here is the meaning behind the name vatican..The word "#Vatican" literally means "Divining Serpent," and is derived from Vatis = Diviner and Can = Serpent. ...so have you been fooled into following the devil parading as a holy messenger from God? what if every pope was corrupted by a demonic possession during his reign, the last one retired and is living. maybe he found a way to free himself...not sure if any of what i am saying is true...my imagination just ran away there...but you never know..crazy times...
@J K The US flag is a symbolism of freedom, democracy, and respect for basic human rights. What else are they supposed to wave? A North Korean flag?! XD
The glorious days of the Chief Executive,Curry lamb are over. Her mishandling of the extradition bill would cause her downfall.She still has not read the message on the wall calling her resignation after three months of turmoil in Hong Kong.A leader who has lost Public confidence should just resign. That's the right thing to do.Be honourable and humble yourself.
Nobody from any of those places would want freedom and democracy, because they are already represented in their respective countries. They have self determination, Hong Kong does not.
NYT Are you serious？“The HK leader with close ties with China” She is managing a city that belongs to China, although under one country two systems, there has one hundred reasons for China to make sure the HK government be on the same page with Beijing. Is that hard to understand?... It's like criticising a mayor for listening to the president.
Disappointing report once again...please hire reporters that really tell the whole story and also redo the title ... Hong Kong belongs to China, of course they have ties....duh. Didn't even mention why create this Bill at the first place.
Who was first HKers as the Governor of Hong Kong? From 1843 to 1997, all governors were Btitishs. There was no vote in HK before it reunified by mainland China.
Lam is CEO of the Chinese SAR of Hong Kong, her direct superior is the central government of PRC, of course she has close ties to the ruling party CCP and part of her duty is report and advice Beijing on Hong Kong issues and Vice versa from the central government. The U.S. Presidential election is not a direct vote either. The party delegates of choses the nominees for the two parties and non party affiliated citizens are not privy to the the process at all. Furthermore, the electoral college system used for the election is not a demographically equally distributed with the smallest states still garnering 3 electors regardless of the population size. Compounding that, the candidate with the most vote in the state gains all the electors.
She says time and again like " it is not easy'" or difficult. Read in between her lines to fathom the real thing. Wonder if she is under duress or coerced not to quit. Guess what?
In her public addresses, she strikes people as an arrogant, incompetent administrator. Some call her a puppet of Mainland. Seemingly she puts her political ambitions above the well-being of Hong Kong and it's people. It's disgraceful that she identified herself a devout Catholics! Judging on how she has handled the Extradition Bill and the subsequent unrest, she is a heartless "soul." Doubtful she has a soul and a conscience!
I don't know Lam, but I know that student leader "Wong Chi-Fung" declared that they are following Julie Eadeh, head of the political department of the US Consulate General in Hong Kong and Macau.(Students leaders have salary everyday～ )
People rise to level of incompetence when promoted. This is what is called " Peter's" principle in management studies. As a civil servant ,she may be hard working and all that. But, as a leader and Chief Executive, it is different ball game, altogether. If a leader is not of sterner stuff, it will be disastrous to the followers.
the main reason makes HK a financial center is its access to the giant market in mainland given by China. Foreign investment would never stay in HK if HK lost its mainland market and political priorities such as ‘0’ tax given by China. China could totally transfer this priority from HK to Shanghai. One thing you need be clear is that HK GDP only ranked 4th in China. There were several opportunities for HK to upgrade its industry. HK didn’t catch the chance and continue to rely on old industries which benefits from political/economic priorities assigned by China. If HK itself cannot work hard and focus on own development, no matter how violent they become, they cannot win their own future.
the fact that you see hk only at its GDP is pathetic, if Hong Kong is so unimportant to china, the PLA would’ve been shooting protesters like they did in 4th June 1989. The value of Hong Kong is, it is a WINDOW for foreign investment to go into china, like what you have mentioned, but also chinese money going out. I actually sympathise you all, cause you might be born in a world where information might be fake, and what you think the 100% of what’s actually happening the the world is in fact maybe 10% of the truth, so yall are born with that deficiency of identifying what’s right and what’s wrong. and your education taught you to only look at result but not the process and how things turn out to be the result you saw, this is portrayed in your respond to this video, you think HK’s value only lies on GDP. 少年你太年輕了
This person was the reason riots started happening in the first place, and then continued to fan the flames by being incompetent. Why hasn't she stepped down?
Still don’t know why can’t she quit? It is not a lifetime job plus the financial lost and social drama she made. The Britain will not speak up about Hong Kong, it is better for her to go no matter what. She really takes the political leadership into a new low level. Whoever appointed her as the chief executive definitely wasn’t thinking critically and comprehensively about her. The Chinese government wanted a marionette, now it wants a scapegoat.
Nah they only stupid, why do you suicide only because of this bill?, and are you really check the validity of this information?, You protesters only become rioters and disturb innocent people, and destroy their property
Carrie Lam's closeness with China is really a blessing in disguise.Much of the protesters' anger has been directed at Lam who receives the blows on behalf of Beijing.Lam knows that prosperity of Hong Kong is tied to success of China as a strong economic power.China treats Hongkong as part of China.It wants Hongkong to be great. But it cannot give democracy now. Neither did the UK hold any elections to elect local Members of Parliament.UK acquired HK after defeating China in the Opium Wars. Even US benefited from the opium trade.
Nicholas Cage sure independent California from USA, independent Scotland Northern Ireland from UK, independent Catalonia from Spain, independent Brittany Corsica island from France, independent Quebec from Canada, strongly supported
The question is not: who is she, but: what does she do. Obviously, she's leading Hong Kong away from democracy and into the totalitarian arms of China. Her being a devout catholic has nothing to do with it. Some devout catholics did great things, others were Nazis. To be clear: I'm not comparing her with either, I'm just saying that her faith doesn't matter, it's what she does with Hong Kong that matters. Hopefully this channel is about actual international politics and doesn't aim to be a human interest channel.
How is that the same? Hong Kong is a nominal part of Communist China but is politically mostly independent and has their own leader and form of government. Their citizens clearly do not support further integration with Communist China judging from the large scale protests in recent months. This is unlike your example of LA, which is a part of California, a state in the US. They have their own government, but are directly administered by the state and to a lesser extent federal government. Completely different situations...
She is lucky that Joseph Zen is compromising. He is so hardliner in some views he could have excommunicated her if he was still the Cardinal and not retired.
No it is not. If that logic is correct, why are there thousands and millions of protesters who grew up in those same conditions, yet still oppose the PRC? Carrie Lam must thus be the exception, and Hong Kong therefore not truly a consenting part of China under the PRC.
@@annietang9599 Hey, it's Annie! Yes that is true, they should not be ignored. But as i understand it, that is irrelevant to the initial statement, as well as to my reply. Firstly, it is incorrect to assume that people who stay at home are necessarily people who do not support the ideals of the protesters. It does not follow that the lawyers who only joined the protests at the later stages, and the students who will have to go to school in September, must necessarily lean towards the PRC ONCE they stop attending protests. Statistically, there must be some people in HK that lean towards the PRC, but it is not consistent to tie their perspective to whether or not they attend protests. Just because they do not attend, that does not mean that they definitely do not support.
@@annietang9599 Second, it is true that the people of Hong Kong are of Chinese heritage, but freedom of speech, economy, etc. under the British has led to a necessary divergence from that initial identity. Additionally, the reason for mass protest lies in HK's desire to keep their government/processes and autonomy separate from the PRC, and the people's frustration at HK govt's failure to uphold those standards, as well as to solve current socio-economic divides and housing scarcity. The fact remains that the vast majority of Hong Kong citizens have expressed support for, are affected by, or are in continued attendance of HK protests, even as the police force, HK govt, and mainland media have been documented as under-reporting protestor's numbers (thanks to HK's free media that allows information to be corroborated by different sources rather than a centralized entity). Thus, the second premise must be rendered false due to the ideological differences that arise from the foundation of HK's history and current state of affairs. Tldr: HK and China are of Two systems and beliefs despite being One state, and are therefore not the same.
hiro progatonist hiro progatonist I understand one country two system. Therefore, I do agree that Hong Kong and mainland China have different political systems, but still Hong Kong is part of China. Carrie Lam and many people in Hong Kong are pro CCP. and I understand a lot of Hong Kong people are against CCP due to many years of biased media trying to demonize the party. Time is changing. CCP is changing. I hope Hong Kongnese people can go to mainland China And see the place and government, not from the TV. T. T
I am seriously torn. I'm not a Hongkonger or Chinese mainland, I'm just a Chinese descent from an asian country. In one side, China, even though its a communist, really growing rapidly on country's development and economic equality and I think Hongkong will also be a much better country, especially for those who are very very poor. On the other side, these youngsters who only want freedom and independency aren't wrong.
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Where's the coverage of the mass shooter in Dayton. The shooter that's pro Warren, pro ANTIFA, anti gun and anti Trump.
@Sean Sebastian Another fine junk journalism! Remember the hidden fact that Hong Kong prospered in the past because of China, since mainland China historically was blocked by the Colonialist Anglo West, and can not export their products directly to outside world; thus Hong Kong came in, and basically acted as a middle man, relabeling products from China and taking commission on them. Besides, these Protest groups/ organizations that Capitalist West helps set up in place like Hong Kong are nothing more than the forefronts of Tit-for-Tat protocol in place, in times of event that their capitalist imperialist interests are threatened; what they basically do is unleash those watch groups and organizations as part of their all out effort to destabilize any region that they feel threaten or simply to expand their interests. Moreover, many ethnic Hong Kong people are working class folks who work for these Western interests, like Western companies and businesses. blog.chinadaily.com.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=894096
What an idiotic title nyt could possibly come up with? Hk afterall is still part of China. If it’s head is not close to the central gov, which gov should she show her loyalty to? To Japan? The us? It’s like writing a piece of news and having a title of “Gavin Newsom is close to Washington”. NYT, could you please come up some meaningful piece that actually serves something else rather than propaganda? What about a piece of the shootings we have in the states and how those tie back to gun control
NEW YORK TIMES is ideed a joke. Tarnish china s reputation whenever it can without reporting US own problem and put double standard. What a joke!
A traitor to her people for her personal career, this is how history will remember her.
yes
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actually the bill isn't dead yet, more like suspended. During the press conference, she said暫緩in Cantonese, yet when recapping in English, she said 'the bill is dead' instead. 暫緩means suspended. In fact,he has been using different wordings to HK citizens and the foreign countries in the recent press conferences too. If you can, NYT, can you invite some Cantonese-speaking reporters, it would be easier to understand what she really means.
She has no power to withdraw a bill. Only the Legislative Council can vote or deny the bill. If CArrie Lam withdraws a bill without voting, she is violating Hongkongs legislative law and abusing her power. The protesters are asking her to do what they are against, abusing power.
@@sophonblock76 yes but then, the current majority of LegCo members are pro-Chinese so you can say it's quite useless to vote, especially for this extradition law. (Fyi, most citizens know the government is corrupted, esp the pro-Chinese members so this made things worse).
There's many things we are protesting against these weeks, we have 5 demands:
1. full withdraw of the extradition law
2. withdrawal of the “riot” characterization of the 6.12 protests
3. unconditional release of all arrested protesters (since most were arrested for no reason)
4. formation of independent commission of inquiry into police behavior (due to police brutality + their absence of police identification proof)
5. universal suffrage
@@gaaranaruto991 are they protesting for the ability to vote?
@@shadow67876 Actually the ability to vote for the politicians and the chief executive (aka leader of Hong Kong) like most Western Countries and not elected by the Chinese Government.
She is playing on words to fool the masses.Be specific and not use words that has double meaning. If suspended, the bill can be brought up again when the time is right.Curry Lamb must be sincere to her people.Her mistrust by the people is of her own making? How can she be a leader if the followers want to dump her?? Don't play games . This extradition bill has wide implications and goes against democratic principles.it is a serious matter that concerns every citizen
she is not HK leader, you never seen a leader never concerning her people's interest, she is only a puppy representing her master Beijing's interest.
And please tell me what exactly is considered to be “concerning for her people’s interest”? Are those rioters who disrupt HongKong’s economy so bad despite its already declining concerning for HongKong’s interest?
Lol read the history between China and hk first and k that hk is under two system and one country ofc she has to follow that and look up how these teens are protesting
"you never seen a leader never concerning her people's interest" lol yes, I've seen a lot of them
Of course she is a chinese and will only care to chinese people only because HK belong to chinese.
yes.Hong Kong need a leader who dare to fight for Hong Kong independent.Who would that be?
You are so naive.
She needs to be thrown out of office. She does more for the communist party than Hong Kong
She is 100% devoted to communist party, and does nothing for hong kong
@J K Go for it
Democracy does not work for all look at iraq and libya its in chaos it might happen to north korea or hongkong
kalbs89 agreed. There is a reason Hong Kong is considered a place with more “Chinese Immigrants” than natives. Have she forgotten that around the late 40s and early 50s, people risked death to run away from China to Hong Kong to escape China’s strict rule? Calling China a Communist country is a joke, it’s more like a totalitarian Country.
Chief executive has not only duties for Hong Kong government and but also Central government according basic law
Carrie Lam is as her name suggests - To CARRY out China’s will and to act as a LAMe puppet.
ideaquest oh yes!
She does not look like a person who sleeps 3 hours a night. Appears to be a technocrat - not like a woman of the people.
I bet she sleep more than 3 hrs...
Sounds exactly like my boss. She claims to work 16 hours a day, but barely shows up for 2 hours a day at work. A complete fraud.
@@d0lvl0 It is always true... they sounds so busy but actually is dining, havin coffee or playing golf with clients.
@@d0lvl0 I had a boss claiming she didn't have a vacation day in several years. She traveled all the time and went to all kinds of resorts and had fun at parties and events. Just because she answered a work related email the same day, she counted it as a "working day" lol. Only explanation I can find for this claim.
I do not know or care how much sleep is she getting, i know one thing thought, she do not work more than 3 hours a day
Events prove that she is a failed leader. Once in power, she ignored the true feelings of the masses.She must exit to bring back some peace to Hong Kong.
In Singapore,CPF seem to be an issue for the people.
doomscyte taiwan & hk may be a part of china, but they have been doing fine without china.
doomscyte it's what u call independency. hk & taiwan don't rely on china anyways. u don't give credits to anyone who hasn't contributed to ur process.
mika ??You sure??
There are a lot of idiots in Hong Kong who know nothing but work and complain about how the protest affected their lives. These are the people who supports Carrie Lam to put an end to the violent protests.
She believes a lot of people like that support her.
She refuses to WITHDRAW the bill formally!
Playing the long game to test which side wears out, ultimately. Hong kong people will suffer when recession is knocking at the doors soon..
@@teckhohng3870 Hongkongers have been suffering even when the economy was "booming" in the past years. With the sort of corrupt and puppet leaders we have the people of Hong Kong will never get a share of the city's economic success.
thank you NYT! (from Hong Kong)
Ms. Lam? GO AWAY! STEP DOWN! RESIGN!
What title is this? ... she governs hk and hk belongs to china ...
that hair style is the KAREN of China
yesssssssssssssss
Since Hong Kong is a part of China, it would be ridiculous if she does not have tie to China,
She is a Chinese, just like the millions HKers. What does NY Times try to say? HK leader should have close tie to UK?
No. HK should have close ties with HK. It is a special administrative region that is proud to not be part of China.
@@@ThomasFoolery8 ,
A special administrative region that is a part of China. Fixed.
@@ThomasFoolery8 you can only fool yourself, and you already did. you won
Taka Masuda Are you high?
Voted by Beijing, not by the people. Not suprised why she had to protect Beijing first.
the narcissism of Beijing and Lam is quite amazing... After making decisions for the HK people WITHOUT HK People's approval, they can't take why HK is unhappy with them.
Carrie Lam spoke in English that "the bill is dead"
While in her Cantonese speech, she said "暫緩” which means suspend / postpone the deadline.
She has played this trick in the past - saying postpone then restart the act when the controversy cool down a bit.
One example was her to dismantle the Queen Pier in 2007.
She is run by main land China. Do you really think China is going to let Hong Kong leave
China appointed her as Chief Executive to have a firm grip of Hong Kong's internal governance well before 2047 when the Treaty ends.This has angered the millions of Hongkongers who take to the streets.Now, it has become a big problem that needs a political solution and not just passing more laws to restrict.
Carrie Lam between two fires: no more no less !
I very likely think that the anger and strength of the local population will be able to burn its credibility !
Thanks dear NYT !
If she is smart, take responsibility for the fiasco and resign honourably.
@@teckhohng3870
Golden and wise words dear Teck Hoh !
You are right ! I agree.
My heartfelt thanks !
The anger of the people is manifested in the chanting and cursing at all the street protests.She refused to quit and gives the excuse it is not easy. What does she really mean?
This title is a joke, if a HK leader is not close to China, who should she be close to?
Her people, their voice of 2 million people
Her saying the bill is "dead" has no actual effect. The bill is only suspended by now. Therefore, we require a FULLY WITHDRAWAL of the bill
Hong Kong is officially Hong Kong Special Administrative Region of the People's Republic of China, get your fact and premise right before reporting. Stop misleading the viewers.
That only happened because of CCP deceit with UN in 1972.
@@MrNajibrazak no, that only happened because China became strong enough to take Hong Kong back from the Brits.
We can argue all we like but as of now at this very moment China has lost all hopes in winning hearts and minds of the ppl of HK.
When the land is its ppl China can have the land but it has to turn the island into a concentration camp.
@@MrNajibrazak The rioters can't represent ALL 7 million people from HK. The tide is already starting to turn.
@@MrNajibrazak or we can turn the island into usa, and murder the natives. apparently people won't care once 200 years pass.
2:51 Wrong. Political fugitives are exempt from the bill. Moreover, it has to be a crime in HK of at least 7 years imprisonment for any extradition request is progressed. So brainwashed this people...
As a Hongkonger, I can attest that Mainland China is incredibly cunning (they can get you arrested for fabricated charges, so political prisoners may get taken for non-political reasons). Even if that is not the case here, we are a very paranoid people, considering our past relations with the Mainlanders. Forgive us for our paranoia, especially if you are not a Hongkonger, but WE LIVE A SINGLE BORDER AWAY FROM THE MAINLAND. We have every right to be paranoid, at the very least, or is *that* a crime now, like passing a protest site to purchase/collect schoolbooks and owning laser pointers?
(Forgive me, too, for my snarkiness. City life has made me cynical.)
@@mng3941 No matter how cunning China can be, if its not a crime IN HK, like freedom of speech, or freedom of religion, then a fugitive cannot be extradited at all.
It MUST be a crime of at least 7 years imprisonment IN HK for an extradition request to progress.
And HK independent judiciary has the final say on whether or not the fugitive gets extradited.
There nothing wrong with being paranoid. But to hold the city to a standstill, blocking roads, affecting businesses, economy, assaulting police, all theses affecting innocent people, then you are just destroying your city.
And pointing lasers at peoples eyes is a criminal offence. A split second can cause permanent damage to ones retina. Police should arrest every single criminal shiny laser onto peoples eyes.
Shes more like a puppet than a leader. God bless HK!
Hong Kong is so fascinating so many interesting problems and cultures
Speaking of which, do you know the hidden fact that Hong Kong prospered in the past because of mainland China, since China historically was blocked by the Colonialist Anglo West, and can not export their products directly to outside world; thus Hong Kong basically acted as a middle man, relabeling products from China and taking commission on it. Moreover, Protest groups/ Human Rights organizations that Capitalist West helps founded in place like Hong Kong are nothing more than the forefronts of Tit-for-Tat protocol in place, in times of event that their capitalist imperialist interests are threatened; what they basically do is unleash those watch groups and organizations as part of their all out effort to destabilize any region that they feel threaten or simply to expand their interests. Besides, many ethnic Hong Kong people are working class folks who work for these Western interests; their companies and businesses. blog.chinadaily.com.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=894096
Hong Kong existed and prospered traditionally all because of mainland China, since China historically was blocked by the Colonialist Anglo West, and can not export their products directly to outside Western world, thus Hong Kong basically acted as a middle man, relabeling products from China and taking commission on it. Moreover, Protest groups/ Human Rights organizations that Capitalist West helps founded in place like Hong Kong are nothing more than the forefronts of Tit-for-Tat protocol in place, in times of event that their capitalist imperialist interests are threatened; what they basically do is unleash those watch groups and organizations as part of their all out effort to destabilize any region that they feel threaten or simply to expand their interests. Besides, many ethnic Hong Kong people are working class folks who work for these Western interests; companies and businesses. blog.chinadaily.com.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=894096
J K please stop with your nonsense
I have visited Hong Kong in 2015 I love the culture and their people are so educated and nice
Too bad I’m seeing this right now
I hope everything will be placed again with peace ✌🏻
If they stop fighting for their freedom now, they will never get another chance again. They have to stay strong and persistent. Fight for your independence.!
Hong Kong is part of China
its a treason to think that kind of way. Any country who has a region that wants to separate will be dealt militarily
Independence? U don't understand the context at all.
Dam it China you had one job not to mess with hong kong law
She is cruel. ..
China has destroyed faith in Hongkong saftey
100% support Carrie Lam all the way!
devout catholic lol
A devout catholic doesn’t guarantee a good catholic. Being devout only means they’re seen as very active in church and worship activities. Like Sunday mass attendance, holy rosary & novenas, and observance of Lent.
Here in the Philippines we call bad catholics as “Banal na Aso, Santong Kabayo” (Holy Dogs, Horse Saints). From the outside the like to project an image of good devout catholics. When they’re actually rotten horrible human beings to their fellow man.
Ikr! A devout catholic and a commie who knew?
The Catholic league is trash!
@Sean Sebastian Relax! It's the priests and the church. There are good Catholics out there. Leave them be.
@@iMadrid11 i can't believe anyone is catholic anymore...the black pope sits in the vatican ...plus the pope has been involved in ignoring abuses in the church...some say he is a luciferian ...and here is the meaning behind the name vatican..The word "#Vatican" literally means "Divining Serpent," and is derived from Vatis = Diviner and Can = Serpent.
...so have you been fooled into following the devil parading as a holy messenger from God? what if every pope was corrupted by a demonic possession during his reign, the last one retired and is living. maybe he found a way to free himself...not sure if any of what i am saying is true...my imagination just ran away there...but you never know..crazy times...
She finally got the power and then she let the power take over..right on girl
HK as one of the city in China. I see no wrong that HK leader has close tie with China. What else should you expect a City Major to do?
ZhouBin Yang 👎 nonsense.
She betrayed Hong Kong
because she is the puppet of the chinese communist party
J K dude Hong Kong was ruled by Britain for like 101 years until the late 80’s
J Kis 50-cents
@J K The US flag is a symbolism of freedom, democracy, and respect for basic human rights. What else are they supposed to wave? A North Korean flag?! XD
Close tie? Hong Kong is part of China! Do u expect she is not tie to China?
They mean she has China's views duh.
Remember Hong Kong is not a sovereign state yet .
The glorious days of the Chief Executive,Curry lamb are over. Her mishandling of the extradition bill would cause her downfall.She still has not read the message on the wall calling her resignation after three months of turmoil in Hong Kong.A leader who has lost Public confidence should just resign. That's the right thing to do.Be honourable and humble yourself.
Supports from Hawaii, Scotland and Quebec! Free us!
Nobody from any of those places would want freedom and democracy, because they are already represented in their respective countries. They have self determination, Hong Kong does not.
NYT Are you serious？“The HK leader with close ties with China” She is managing a city that belongs to China, although under one country two systems, there has one hundred reasons for China to make sure the HK government be on the same page with Beijing. Is that hard to understand?... It's like criticising a mayor for listening to the president.
美国人可能还真不明白为什么一个市长要听总统的话
If she only listened from the very first protest, this will not happen anymore. So sad for Hongkong and Hongkongers.
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Disappointing report once again...please hire reporters that really tell the whole story and also redo the title ... Hong Kong belongs to China, of course they have ties....duh. Didn't even mention why create this Bill at the first place.
with close ties to China??? she is the major of a Chinese city…period
No period, Hong Kong is clearly different from China. Entitled paper tiger PRC.
@@hiroprotagonitis Guangdong is clearly different from Shandong. so what??
@@hiroprotagonitis paper tigee？seriously ??
all the Best wishes for Carrie Lam
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I bet You're Turkish .
Who was first HKers as the Governor of Hong Kong? From 1843 to 1997, all governors were Btitishs. There was no vote in HK before it reunified by mainland China.
Tristan Y Yes. This is historically true. Chris Patten was the last governor of HK, not voted by the people of Hong Kong.
What is wrong for her to be close to China? Hong Kong is part of China, isn't it? (whether you like it or not)
Its the bitter truth
Lam is CEO of the Chinese SAR of Hong Kong, her direct superior is the central government of PRC, of course she has close ties to the ruling party CCP and part of her duty is report and advice Beijing on Hong Kong issues and Vice versa from the central government. The U.S. Presidential election is not a direct vote either. The party delegates of choses the nominees for the two parties and non party affiliated citizens are not privy to the the process at all. Furthermore, the electoral college system used for the election is not a demographically equally distributed with the smallest states still garnering 3 electors regardless of the population size. Compounding that, the candidate with the most vote in the state gains all the electors.
Yet to support me
bill isnt dead.there is no such thing as bill dead but only suspended or complete removal.go study some politic thing
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Omj why is this country has no peace
Step down, puppet Lam.
She says time and again like " it is not easy'" or difficult. Read in between her lines to fathom the real thing. Wonder if she is under duress or coerced not to quit. Guess what?
but i thought Hongkong never had voting rights PRE1997?
If they riot like this under colonial British, they are already in jail by now. Or worst dead.
KS2996's Gaming Channel but you do get to vote under circumstances, where as there were no voting at all before, yet you never protested?
@@lunanziw maybe HK preferred to be ruled by British than China. So they are more tolerant then vs now. Plus awareness.
@@Maya-sv1pz true
KS2996's Gaming Channel you never read basic law, just like new generation of hk, losers
Its obvious that LAM is working for China not HK...
free HK
The Hong Kong Leader With Close Ties to China. What are you implying NYT? Like she shouldn't?
Deedy Fenton exactly.
Full freedom for Hongkong is much better.
林鄭，please step down at last! Hong Kong needs a leader who cares about Hong Kong people!
In her public addresses, she strikes people as an arrogant, incompetent administrator. Some call her a puppet of Mainland. Seemingly she puts her political ambitions above the well-being of Hong Kong and it's people. It's disgraceful that she identified herself a devout Catholics! Judging on how she has handled the Extradition Bill and the subsequent unrest, she is a heartless "soul." Doubtful she has a soul and a conscience!
I don't know Lam, but I know that student leader "Wong Chi-Fung" declared that they are following Julie Eadeh, head of the political department of the US Consulate General in Hong Kong and Macau.(Students leaders have salary everyday～ )
"Who is Carrie Lam?"
A puppet
People rise to level of incompetence when promoted. This is what is called " Peter's" principle in management studies. As a civil servant ,she may be hard working and all that. But, as a leader and Chief Executive, it is different ball game, altogether. If a leader is not of sterner stuff, it will be disastrous to the followers.
A remote controlled by China
the main reason makes HK a financial center is its access to the giant market in mainland given by China. Foreign investment would never stay in HK if HK lost its mainland market and political priorities such as ‘0’ tax given by China.
China could totally transfer this priority from HK to Shanghai.
One thing you need be clear is that HK GDP only ranked 4th in China. There were several opportunities for HK to upgrade its industry. HK didn’t catch the chance and continue to rely on old industries which benefits from political/economic priorities assigned by China.
If HK itself cannot work hard and focus on own development, no matter how violent they become, they cannot win their own future.
the fact that you see hk only at its GDP is pathetic, if Hong Kong is so unimportant to china, the PLA would’ve been shooting protesters like they did in 4th June 1989. The value of Hong Kong is, it is a WINDOW for foreign investment to go into china, like what you have mentioned, but also chinese money going out.
I actually sympathise you all, cause you might be born in a world where information might be fake, and what you think the 100% of what’s actually happening the the world is in fact maybe 10% of the truth, so yall are born with that deficiency of identifying what’s right and what’s wrong. and your education taught you to only look at result but not the process and how things turn out to be the result you saw, this is portrayed in your respond to this video, you think HK’s value only lies on GDP. 少年你太年輕了
This Title is so laughable. It is like saying the Mayor of Los Angeles or the Governor of California has close ties with the United States!
Totally!
Indeed
This person was the reason riots started happening in the first place, and then continued to fan the flames by being incompetent. Why hasn't she stepped down?
Most likely Xi won't let her. He will make her stay and be the face of the oppression.
strange discription, HK is part of China and it's leader can't be tied with China?What message do you want to spread to the world?
Step down Carrie Lam. Don't control your people if they don't like you anymore. Free Hongkong.
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Still don’t know why can’t she quit? It is not a lifetime job plus the financial lost and social drama she made. The Britain will not speak up about Hong Kong, it is better for her to go no matter what. She really takes the political leadership into a new low level. Whoever appointed her as the chief executive definitely wasn’t thinking critically and comprehensively about her. The Chinese government wanted a marionette, now it wants a scapegoat.
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She is a Chinese according to herself!!!
Who is Donald Trump? The US leader with close ties to the US.
haha exactly. When I read the title I was like, duh! are you stupid?
Keep resisting! Don't give up!
5 people suicide for this bill, Carrie Lam didn't show her regret for this!!
Nah they only stupid, why do you suicide only because of this bill?, and are you really check the validity of this information?, You protesters only become rioters and disturb innocent people, and destroy their property
That seems suspicious. Maybe they did something and fear what this bill will mean for them?
Hk people are over reacting.
Patrick Kyo how is it overreacting when it is an indication that Beijing is gradually tightening its iron fist?
Proud of Tsai Ing Wen, the President of Taiwan.
Carrie Lam's closeness with China is really a blessing in disguise.Much of the protesters' anger has been directed at Lam who receives the blows on behalf of Beijing.Lam knows that prosperity of Hong Kong is tied to success of China as a strong economic power.China treats Hongkong as part of China.It wants Hongkong to be great. But it cannot give democracy now. Neither did the UK hold any elections to elect local Members of Parliament.UK acquired HK after defeating China in the Opium Wars. Even US benefited from the opium trade.
This woman lies at a convenience.She should be put in jail for bringing on this horrific situation.She is the main cause.
Hong Kong is a part of China of course she is close to China.
dark ocean loose what mind
The land is its people. And if its people wants to leave any notion against it is tyranny.
Nicholas Cage sure independent California from USA, independent Scotland Northern Ireland from UK, independent Catalonia from Spain, independent Brittany Corsica island from France, independent Quebec from Canada, strongly supported
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The question is not: who is she, but: what does she do. Obviously, she's leading Hong Kong away from democracy and into the totalitarian arms of China.
Her being a devout catholic has nothing to do with it. Some devout catholics did great things, others were Nazis. To be clear: I'm not comparing her with either, I'm just saying that her faith doesn't matter, it's what she does with Hong Kong that matters.
Hopefully this channel is about actual international politics and doesn't aim to be a human interest channel.
Hongkong never had democracy! You dumb?
@@keking2178 OP's comment never said Hong Kong had democracy. The people wants change, and democracy is one of those change.
@@keking2178 OP is talking about moving towards democracy or away from it.
What is she？
All the swear words that exist.
We won't tell nobody
Simple she needs to resign for sake. 😡😡😡
Easiest way vent your frustration is blame, you see this in HK, and also US in the resent shooting incident. A problem doesn't just happen overnight.
the appology video looks like a logan paul apology
The Los Angeles city mayor has a close tie with the US.😂
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You know how confused those commentators are dont you. Lols.
How is that the same? Hong Kong is a nominal part of Communist China but is politically mostly independent and has their own leader and form of government. Their citizens clearly do not support further integration with Communist China judging from the large scale protests in recent months. This is unlike your example of LA, which is a part of California, a state in the US. They have their own government, but are directly administered by the state and to a lesser extent federal government. Completely different situations...
@@hanjoshitmata5602 you talk about China like you came from the world in the 60s
Not only she has ties to China... hk is china lol
Carrie Lam bad leader, need to go down.
I am shocked that she devoured Catholic, she ought to be excommunicated.
That made me laugh a lil too hard
Let God judge at the day of reckoning.
She is lucky that Joseph Zen is compromising. He is so hardliner in some views he could have excommunicated her if he was still the Cardinal and not retired.
Let God judge.
Yup. On judgement day.
I gave down vote since her wrong doings were described downsized and so lightly.
She's a puppet of Beijing gov't. What a shame!
Some people like to be puppets.No back bone to stand up on principles.
Hongkong is china got it good
Who’s Donald Trump? the US leader with close ties to Israel.
Carrie Lam is not doing enough to stop the violence and unrest.
You forgot why she even proposed the extradition bill?
Carrie Lam will go down with the history as the most hated woman in HK.
Huh? Close ties to China? come one, she just an employee, her boss is China, no more explanation needed~
She is a sellout
communist puppet=carrie lam,and 韓國瑜
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shes born and raised in Hong Kong. Hong Kong is a part of China. Of course it’s okay for her to lean towards China government.
No it is not. If that logic is correct, why are there thousands and millions of protesters who grew up in those same conditions, yet still oppose the PRC? Carrie Lam must thus be the exception, and Hong Kong therefore not truly a consenting part of China under the PRC.
hiro progatonist but there are still millions of people choose to stay home or go to work regularly. We should not ignore these people either.
@@annietang9599 Hey, it's Annie! Yes that is true, they should not be ignored. But as i understand it, that is irrelevant to the initial statement, as well as to my reply. Firstly, it is incorrect to assume that people who stay at home are necessarily people who do not support the ideals of the protesters. It does not follow that the lawyers who only joined the protests at the later stages, and the students who will have to go to school in September, must necessarily lean towards the PRC ONCE they stop attending protests. Statistically, there must be some people in HK that lean towards the PRC, but it is not consistent to tie their perspective to whether or not they attend protests. Just because they do not attend, that does not mean that they definitely do not support.
@@annietang9599 Second, it is true that the people of Hong Kong are of Chinese heritage, but freedom of speech, economy, etc. under the British has led to a necessary divergence from that initial identity. Additionally, the reason for mass protest lies in HK's desire to keep their government/processes and autonomy separate from the PRC, and the people's frustration at HK govt's failure to uphold those standards, as well as to solve current socio-economic divides and housing scarcity. The fact remains that the vast majority of Hong Kong citizens have expressed support for, are affected by, or are in continued attendance of HK protests, even as the police force, HK govt, and mainland media have been documented as under-reporting protestor's numbers (thanks to HK's free media that allows information to be corroborated by different sources rather than a centralized entity). Thus, the second premise must be rendered false due to the ideological differences that arise from the foundation of HK's history and current state of affairs. Tldr: HK and China are of Two systems and beliefs despite being One state, and are therefore not the same.
hiro progatonist hiro progatonist I understand one country two system. Therefore, I do agree that Hong Kong and mainland China have different political systems, but still Hong Kong is part of China. Carrie Lam and many people in Hong Kong are pro CCP. and I understand a lot of Hong Kong people are against CCP due to many years of biased media trying to demonize the party. Time is changing. CCP is changing. I hope Hong Kongnese people can go to mainland China
And see the place and government, not from the TV. T. T
Oh boy NYT your backers must be so delighted to this title.
''The Hong Kong Leader With Close Ties to China'' is that not part of the job description?
I am seriously torn. I'm not a Hongkonger or Chinese mainland, I'm just a Chinese descent from an asian country. In one side, China, even though its a communist, really growing rapidly on country's development and economic equality and I think Hongkong will also be a much better country, especially for those who are very very poor. On the other side, these youngsters who only want freedom and independency aren't wrong.
Why dont you step down and ban the bill all together if you want this to end
Her time is up she has badly mishandled Hong kongs affairs for long enough