They didn't play the second group matches at the same time. Argentina always played at last knowing how all matches had ended, that is why Argentina knew they had to defeat Peru by 4 or more goals to qualify to the final since Brazil was going to qualify instead if they didn't defeat Peru by that required goal difference. Peru had a military government just as Argentina did, and the day of match the Peruvian president ordered the Peruvian team to let Argentina win without opposition and the match ended 6 - 0. Days later the Peruvian government received containers with wheat and money sent by the Argentinian government. Coincidence? Not a chance. Also, the Peruvian goalkeeper was born in Argentina which further increases suspicions. Argentina bought that title. They are even responsible for the kidnapping of Johan Cruyff, they will just never admit it.
@DTNenforcer But of course you fail to mention that this advantage (knowing the result) was enjoyed by every WC host in every WC that was played using this format. Of course you won't mention that! That's not part of "the narrative." Also, you failed to mentioned that Peru hit the post twice in the first 10 min of the game... Because who doesn't hit the post when you are trying to lose? It's like THE WAY to pretend you don't "want to lose". It's not hard to believe that you will try and score as much as you can when you know how many goals you need, and that is not the same playing against a team that is already eliminated like Peru was. The problem was in the format. The peruvians always denied losing on purpose. And that whole "containers and money" thing is a myth, Argentina and Peru always enjoyed a great relationship. There was never any proof or conection, only conspiracy theories from haters like you. Next fantasy busted: Johan cruyff said HIMSELF that the "attempted kidnapping" of himself and his family, which took place more than a year prior to the WC, made him quit the National team, he didn't just quit the WC, he never played again for Netherlands. It happened in Barcelona when kidnapping of high profile people was very common by guerrilla groups. He was never actually kidnapped, the authorities foiled the attempt. But in your fantasies, argentina somehow was involved. :P Important thing is Argentina beat Netherlands in the final 3-1 fair and square with no controversy. In fact, with the game 1-1 Netherlands hit the post in the last minute which could have won them the WC. But it didn't happend, it went rightfully to Argentina. Keep crying.
@DTNenforcer Argentina was favoured just as many hosts. But there were a lot less controversies than 1934 Italy or 1966 England (probably the worst of all). Argentina got the toughest group. They even lose to Italy and got to go to Rosario. They won fairly against an already eliminated Peru that even hit the goalpost twice in the game. And there is nothing strange in the final. The Netherlands could even won at the last minute. There is an awful double standard from Europeans when it comes to these things. They have the most stained hands in the sport but love to see that in non European countries. And can you tell me how the hell Argentina could kidnap Cruyff in Barcelona? Do you think we are the USA or something like that? You are absolutely overestimating our relevance.
@@DTNenforcer All of Argentina's matches with the exception of the final kicked off at 7.15pm local time, so that the host’s matches could be seen by the Argentinian people on TV. All the other group matches kicked off at 1.45pm or 4.45pm local time, to suit television audiences in Europe. Also, as in the 1974 World Cup, it was agreed that the host nation’s matches should not be played at the same time as other games being played, so as to maximise the attendance at any matches not involving the hosts - remember international travel wasn't so easy back then, and half empty stadia was quite common at World Cups during the 1970's and 80's. There are a lot of people who have claimed that the kick off time for Argentina v Peru was changed in the week leading up to the match, but the kick off times for all games involving Argentina were announced long before the tournament started. What FIFA should have done, was delay the Brazil v Poland match to start at 7.15pm as well, even though that game would've been watched by a much smaller crowd.
There was more to the controversy, Quiroga, the Peruvian goalkeeper was born in Argentina, and supposedly Peru was again paid a visit during half time from the General. Even if he just came around to say hi, these moments are supposed to be for the coach to give instructions and for the players to focus, not for politicians to make speeches. And what the hell was Kissinger doing there? 😅
Yes, absolutely. I could do a whole video on this whole incident. Kissinger was a guest of honour at the World Cup that Videla invited. I believe he even supported the policies of Argentina and the supposed fight on terrorism etc.
Wasn't the Peruvian keeper also 17 and uncapped going into that match? Also I heard that over the following years Argentina sent thousands of tonnes of free grain to Peru. EDIT Argentina sent 35,000 tonnes of grain, there were rumours of bribes by both Brazil (for Peru to win) and Argentina (for Peru to lose and Poland to win) and my point about the goalkeeper was moot. He was 28 and had also started against Poland at least but had only been in the National team for a year.
The only corruption involved was in that one game against Peru, a team that already had no chances of going through the second group stage. The 1986 and 2022 trophies were as clean as anyone else's.
In the match France vs Argentina, the referee did not award a penalty to France and warned Argentina's players that he won't forgive another penalty. On the contrary, he gifted a penalty to Argentina.
I'm surprised you know that. That was a huge call back then and wasn't a penalty. Argentina was in the group with Italy and France. They lost to Italy and a loss to France would have seen them exit the tournament early.
@@Jose-sy1je I read it on an online article called "Remembering Argentina 1978: The Dirtiest World Cup Of All Time" from a website. But previously I saw a comment (on youtube I think) where someone said that so I made sure. This confirms Argentina has never won a world cup without some kind of cheating or unfair advantage either by the corrupt hosts (they when they hosted and qatar most recently) or by fifa itself.
Love your videos, very entertaining! Just an idea: after you finish the World Cup story, you should start an European Championship story, Copa America story, Asian Cup etc....I really think it'll be interesting for everybody.
Hey, I didnt realize you were uploading this series right now. So far it's been awesome. Keep it up my man. And to answer the question of the thumbnail. Yes it was. Like most of them. But who cares hehe
There was also a goal from Brazil that was annulled because the referee blew the wistle while the ball was in the air. Similar to what happened to Real Madrid recently. There was no way anyone else except Argentina was going to win, especially Brazil.
Yes, that disallowed goal was against Sweden in the group stage. It makes no sense. The ref allowed them to take the corner but blew the whistle as the ball was being crossed in just before it was headed in.
That disallowed goal didn't help Argentina so it sort of dispels your argument. I watched all the games and Argentina were superb - an attacking side built to go forward and seen as worthy champions by many commentators.
@@TheSportsFiles-mm1kg That decision was very typical of Clive Thomas, who had a reputation as a very fussy referee. He blew the whistle for time as the ball was in the air. He wasn't part of any conspiracy.
The problem is VAR. Notice that penalties for World Cup winning sides massively increased once VAR was implemented. Germany had still won the 2014 World Cup with only one penalty in 7 games. Argentina were given penalties that should never have been called and ultimately was probably the main factor (other being their goalie) why they won. Notice how players nowadays will always immediately drop themselves bc VAR only looks for contact. Problem is that football has always been a contact sport.
Besides the 5 penalties gifted to Argentine, there were the forgiven yellow and red cards, remember how messi abruptly stopped the ball with his hand in the match against Netherlands but the referee did nothing, or when another argentinian player fouled a dutch player and proceed to shoot the ball with all his force (while the ball was really close to the fallen dutch player) to the place where the dutch manager and rest of the team was for no reason and he wasn't even warned by the ref. The thing is that the argentinian players did what they wanted and they were hardly given cards, it looked like they knew they could do as they pleased and still get away with it. Also, remember how infantino and the qatar organizers stated they wanted messi to win the cup before the tournament even started, was that a confession of what was about to happen? You couldn't be more biased than that. Because of all of that you just can't simply deny that that world cup win was a shady one, like it or not, it was as shady or even more shady than the 1934 or 1978 editions, the worst world cup of recent times, nothing memorable nor legit to be honest.
@@DTNenforcer I remember that scene against the Dutch. It was a yellow card type of foul. Then he kicked the ball full force at the Dutch bench, which would have been another yellow. He should have been off. Agree with Messi's handball as well. If you see what they call nowadays, but he can just blatantly handball like that? In the next game against Croatia they were given a joke of a penalty that ruined the game.
@@Jose-sy1je Correct, almost all penalties gifted to them were to open the match so the rival could leave spaces when attacking so that the argentinians could counterattack. Those non-existant penalties screwed the rivals' plans in the match. Had the matches had fair referees argentina would have never made it that far.
Hungary, France and Italy. Wow, such a rigged Cup. That Argentina team was so stacked, they left Maradona out and 2 of the best players in Argentina history (Alonso and Bochini) as substitutes. Please, watch the match between Peru and Argentina. At least the highlights. Peru was close to score and it was not that easy for Argentina. 6-0 does not reflect the game. It's like the 4-1 Real Madrid/Atl. Madrid final. It looks like a landslide for Real but Atletico was 2 minutes close to be champions. You get my point. Argentina was favoured? Yeah, I'm not blind. Like many hosts. But a lot less than England or Italy in their respective World Cups. Argentina could have lost in the 90th minute of the final when Rensenbrink hit the goalpost, and the controversy would be over.
It's such a coincidence that 3 out 4 finalists in Qatar were Neymar, Messi, and Mbappe who all played for PSG and have been earning tens of millions as "ambassadors" for "tourism". 6 penalties in 7 games for Argentina too just to make sure. Never before seen anything like it.
1. Neymar, Messi, and Mbappe play for countries with 5 world cups, 3 world cups, and 2, and that regularly go deep in the world cup. 2. Argentina was rewarded 5 penalties, not 6, and in 2018, France was rewarded 4 penalties. So 4 is fine but 5 isn't? Stop coping.
I actually think the 2022 World Cup was the one in which Fifa helped Argentina win. 5 penalties that should not have been given. Contact was either non-existent or too minimal to make it a penalty. Players nowadays know that VAR will only look for contact, so they will drop as soon as there is any or create contact to get the penalty. It has become a joke. In 1978, however, Argentina played far better than they were given credit for. In '86 Maradona did use his hand, but this view takes away from their overall performance. In 1982 Maradona was given virtually no protection from referees. 1986 was the greatest Word Cup performance by a player in the history of the sport. I don't think anyone had ever seen anything like it. Not even close.
@@DTNenforcer Argentina have always played like that. Brutal on defense, cheating on offense. Always trying to win over the ref as well. The thing is that nowadays it's even far worse. There is so much money in the game and they had to get Messi a World Cup. The penalties they obtained were a complete disgrace.
1978: 45 years later, we still have 0 proof, 0 witnesses, 0 confessions and 0 documentation to claim that anything strange happened. Yet we still have idiots like you saying shit like that. 1986: Wow, so there was one goal in quarter finals that should have been disallowed? That's so crazy! Never happened before in the history of football!!! Except for... you know... all those goals that were scored in offside, or all those players who faked a foul to get a penalty, and so on. But sure, you keep saying Argentina is a special case. I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that you consider Argentina special. 2022: Stop whining already. Who said those penalties were not fairly awarded? Which one of them had an impact on the outcome? Also, France got 2 penalties in the final, how do you call that?
@@DTNenforcer what a butt-sore cry baby you are. I'm happy to see how much pain it gives you to see them winning. I hope they keep winning so you can keep crying. 🤣😂
I'm really glad that they play final group games at the same time. Knowing what result you need to qualify is such a huge advantage.
They didn't play the second group matches at the same time. Argentina always played at last knowing how all matches had ended, that is why Argentina knew they had to defeat Peru by 4 or more goals to qualify to the final since Brazil was going to qualify instead if they didn't defeat Peru by that required goal difference.
Peru had a military government just as Argentina did, and the day of match the Peruvian president ordered the Peruvian team to let Argentina win without opposition and the match ended 6 - 0. Days later the Peruvian government received containers with wheat and money sent by the Argentinian government. Coincidence? Not a chance. Also, the Peruvian goalkeeper was born in Argentina which further increases suspicions.
Argentina bought that title. They are even responsible for the kidnapping of Johan Cruyff, they will just never admit it.
@DTNenforcer But of course you fail to mention that this advantage (knowing the result) was enjoyed by every WC host in every WC that was played using this format. Of course you won't mention that! That's not part of "the narrative."
Also, you failed to mentioned that Peru hit the post twice in the first 10 min of the game... Because who doesn't hit the post when you are trying to lose? It's like THE WAY to pretend you don't "want to lose".
It's not hard to believe that you will try and score as much as you can when you know how many goals you need, and that is not the same playing against a team that is already eliminated like Peru was. The problem was in the format. The peruvians always denied losing on purpose. And that whole "containers and money" thing is a myth, Argentina and Peru always enjoyed a great relationship. There was never any proof or conection, only conspiracy theories from haters like you.
Next fantasy busted: Johan cruyff said HIMSELF that the "attempted kidnapping" of himself and his family, which took place more than a year prior to the WC, made him quit the National team, he didn't just quit the WC, he never played again for Netherlands. It happened in Barcelona when kidnapping of high profile people was very common by guerrilla groups. He was never actually kidnapped, the authorities foiled the attempt. But in your fantasies, argentina somehow was involved. :P
Important thing is Argentina beat Netherlands in the final 3-1 fair and square with no controversy. In fact, with the game 1-1 Netherlands hit the post in the last minute which could have won them the WC. But it didn't happend, it went rightfully to Argentina. Keep crying.
@DTNenforcer Argentina was favoured just as many hosts. But there were a lot less controversies than 1934 Italy or 1966 England (probably the worst of all).
Argentina got the toughest group. They even lose to Italy and got to go to Rosario.
They won fairly against an already eliminated Peru that even hit the goalpost twice in the game.
And there is nothing strange in the final. The Netherlands could even won at the last minute.
There is an awful double standard from Europeans when it comes to these things. They have the most stained hands in the sport but love to see that in non European countries.
And can you tell me how the hell Argentina could kidnap Cruyff in Barcelona? Do you think we are the USA or something like that? You are absolutely overestimating our relevance.
@@DTNenforcer All of Argentina's matches with the exception of the final kicked off at 7.15pm local time, so that the host’s matches could be seen by the Argentinian people on TV. All the other group matches kicked off at 1.45pm or 4.45pm local time, to suit television audiences in Europe. Also, as in the 1974 World Cup, it was agreed that the host nation’s matches should not be played at the same time as other games being played, so as to maximise the attendance at any matches not involving the hosts - remember international travel wasn't so easy back then, and half empty stadia was quite common at World Cups during the 1970's and 80's. There are a lot of people who have claimed that the kick off time for Argentina v Peru was changed in the week leading up to the match, but the kick off times for all games involving Argentina were announced long before the tournament started. What FIFA should have done, was delay the Brazil v Poland match to start at 7.15pm as well, even though that game would've been watched by a much smaller crowd.
@@jptributer Well said.
There was more to the controversy, Quiroga, the Peruvian goalkeeper was born in Argentina, and supposedly Peru was again paid a visit during half time from the General. Even if he just came around to say hi, these moments are supposed to be for the coach to give instructions and for the players to focus, not for politicians to make speeches. And what the hell was Kissinger doing there? 😅
Yes, absolutely. I could do a whole video on this whole incident. Kissinger was a guest of honour at the World Cup that Videla invited. I believe he even supported the policies of Argentina and the supposed fight on terrorism etc.
Wasn't the Peruvian keeper also 17 and uncapped going into that match? Also I heard that over the following years Argentina sent thousands of tonnes of free grain to Peru.
EDIT Argentina sent 35,000 tonnes of grain, there were rumours of bribes by both Brazil (for Peru to win) and Argentina (for Peru to lose and Poland to win) and my point about the goalkeeper was moot. He was 28 and had also started against Poland at least but had only been in the National team for a year.
@@DHW3008 No he wasn't. He was an experienced keeper and played in all the games.
@@Ruda-n4h I did put an edit underneath my comment to mention that.
@@DHW3008 Yes I see.
Its a shame to see the competition subject to political pressure, the sport should be played in a fair manner.
I hate that sporting events have been used as government propaganda so often over the years.
I’m happy you upload at it sometimes make me happy
Glad to know Rensenbrink's miss isn't ignored like so many reports.
Yeah, it's a huge moment. The Dutch were inches away from being world champions.
this channel is gonna blow watch
Thanks! I hope so!
Been waiting all week and I must say u didn't disappoint
Thank you very much!
Argentina has never won a World Cup without some sort of corruption being accused
Argentina can never win a World Cup without people being mad
There was no corruption for them in the last world cup lol that's pure delusion.
Still crying?? Your tears are tasty
The only corruption involved was in that one game against Peru, a team that already had no chances of going through the second group stage. The 1986 and 2022 trophies were as clean as anyone else's.
@@patriciofernandez2711 5 penalties in 7 games and 3 red cards not given
In the match France vs Argentina, the referee did not award a penalty to France and warned Argentina's players that he won't forgive another penalty. On the contrary, he gifted a penalty to Argentina.
I'm surprised you know that. That was a huge call back then and wasn't a penalty. Argentina was in the group with Italy and France. They lost to Italy and a loss to France would have seen them exit the tournament early.
@@Jose-sy1je I read it on an online article called "Remembering Argentina 1978: The Dirtiest World Cup Of All Time" from a website. But previously I saw a comment (on youtube I think) where someone said that so I made sure. This confirms Argentina has never won a world cup without some kind of cheating or unfair advantage either by the corrupt hosts (they when they hosted and qatar most recently) or by fifa itself.
Love your videos, very entertaining!
Just an idea: after you finish the World Cup story, you should start an European Championship story, Copa America story, Asian Cup etc....I really think it'll be interesting for everybody.
Thanks a lot.
Yeah, the European championships is an option I was considering as my next series.
@@TheSportsFiles-mm1kg then you can start with copa america, the oldest International tournament
Awesome I just start with this one because was my first WC to watch as a kid, lucky to be the champions !!! amazing work you did
Thank you so much. Glad you enjoyed it!
Hey, I didnt realize you were uploading this series right now. So far it's been awesome. Keep it up my man.
And to answer the question of the thumbnail. Yes it was. Like most of them. But who cares hehe
Thank you much appreciated. I upload a new video every two weeks. I'm going through the FIFA World Cups. So 1982 is next.
There was also a goal from Brazil that was annulled because the referee blew the wistle while the ball was in the air. Similar to what happened to Real Madrid recently. There was no way anyone else except Argentina was going to win, especially Brazil.
Yes, that disallowed goal was against Sweden in the group stage. It makes no sense. The ref allowed them to take the corner but blew the whistle as the ball was being crossed in just before it was headed in.
That disallowed goal didn't help Argentina so it sort of dispels your argument. I watched all the games and Argentina were superb - an attacking side built to go forward and seen as worthy champions by many commentators.
@@TheSportsFiles-mm1kg That decision was very typical of Clive Thomas, who had a reputation as a very fussy referee. He blew the whistle for time as the ball was in the air. He wasn't part of any conspiracy.
Netherlands had the bad luck of playing the hosts two times.
Yes, they have been very unfortunate.
hope u make a video on qatar 2022 5 penalties in 7 games with 3 red cards were skipped
I'm making a video on each world cup. So yes I will make one for 2022.
The problem is VAR. Notice that penalties for World Cup winning sides massively increased once VAR was implemented. Germany had still won the 2014 World Cup with only one penalty in 7 games. Argentina were given penalties that should never have been called and ultimately was probably the main factor (other being their goalie) why they won. Notice how players nowadays will always immediately drop themselves bc VAR only looks for contact. Problem is that football has always been a contact sport.
Besides the 5 penalties gifted to Argentine, there were the forgiven yellow and red cards, remember how messi abruptly stopped the ball with his hand in the match against Netherlands but the referee did nothing, or when another argentinian player fouled a dutch player and proceed to shoot the ball with all his force (while the ball was really close to the fallen dutch player) to the place where the dutch manager and rest of the team was for no reason and he wasn't even warned by the ref. The thing is that the argentinian players did what they wanted and they were hardly given cards, it looked like they knew they could do as they pleased and still get away with it. Also, remember how infantino and the qatar organizers stated they wanted messi to win the cup before the tournament even started, was that a confession of what was about to happen? You couldn't be more biased than that. Because of all of that you just can't simply deny that that world cup win was a shady one, like it or not, it was as shady or even more shady than the 1934 or 1978 editions, the worst world cup of recent times, nothing memorable nor legit to be honest.
@@DTNenforcer I remember that scene against the Dutch. It was a yellow card type of foul. Then he kicked the ball full force at the Dutch bench, which would have been another yellow. He should have been off. Agree with Messi's handball as well. If you see what they call nowadays, but he can just blatantly handball like that? In the next game against Croatia they were given a joke of a penalty that ruined the game.
@@Jose-sy1je Correct, almost all penalties gifted to them were to open the match so the rival could leave spaces when attacking so that the argentinians could counterattack. Those non-existant penalties screwed the rivals' plans in the match. Had the matches had fair referees argentina would have never made it that far.
The Peruvian goalie was Argentine born.
So basically Argentina stole all 3 WC. Dictator interference, Hand of God and Penalty fiesta.
So basically your crying is that it?
Yes penalty fiesta as France got two penalties in final as Brazil lost in penalties and as pena*** was on bench 😂
@@ManDude601"sO bAsiCaLly yoUr crYinG iS thAt iT"
Spoken like a toddler.
@@jordanschlansky4093 1986 and 2022 was fine that is was robbed by Argentina I definitly don't want England or France winning
Hungary, France and Italy. Wow, such a rigged Cup.
That Argentina team was so stacked, they left Maradona out and 2 of the best players in Argentina history (Alonso and Bochini) as substitutes.
Please, watch the match between Peru and Argentina. At least the highlights. Peru was close to score and it was not that easy for Argentina. 6-0 does not reflect the game. It's like the 4-1 Real Madrid/Atl. Madrid final. It looks like a landslide for Real but Atletico was 2 minutes close to be champions. You get my point.
Argentina was favoured? Yeah, I'm not blind. Like many hosts. But a lot less than England or Italy in their respective World Cups.
Argentina could have lost in the 90th minute of the final when Rensenbrink hit the goalpost, and the controversy would be over.
It's such a coincidence that 3 out 4 finalists in Qatar were Neymar, Messi, and Mbappe who all played for PSG and have been earning tens of millions as "ambassadors" for "tourism".
6 penalties in 7 games for Argentina too just to make sure. Never before seen anything like it.
1. Neymar, Messi, and Mbappe play for countries with 5 world cups, 3 world cups, and 2, and that regularly go deep in the world cup. 2. Argentina was rewarded 5 penalties, not 6, and in 2018, France was rewarded 4 penalties. So 4 is fine but 5 isn't? Stop coping.
@@Kingslayer1572 It's amazing how people keep repeating the "7 penalties" fallacy without bothering to look it up, that's how misinformation spreads.
86 was also fixed just watch their goals against Belgium
Those were some of the best goals of the tournament lol how were they fixed?
@@patriciofernandez2711 they put an alien on maradona skin and command them with 5g from a drone
It wasn't fixed - just bad offside decisions that have plagued the World Cup since the 1950's.
1978 with gun 1986 with hand 2022 with penalities
I actually think the 2022 World Cup was the one in which Fifa helped Argentina win. 5 penalties that should not have been given. Contact was either non-existent or too minimal to make it a penalty. Players nowadays know that VAR will only look for contact, so they will drop as soon as there is any or create contact to get the penalty. It has become a joke. In 1978, however, Argentina played far better than they were given credit for. In '86 Maradona did use his hand, but this view takes away from their overall performance. In 1982 Maradona was given virtually no protection from referees. 1986 was the greatest Word Cup performance by a player in the history of the sport. I don't think anyone had ever seen anything like it. Not even close.
@@Jose-sy1jeThat's Argentina for you, they cannot win a world cup fair and square, they always have to win it in a shady way or not win it at all.
@@DTNenforcer Argentina have always played like that. Brutal on defense, cheating on offense. Always trying to win over the ref as well. The thing is that nowadays it's even far worse. There is so much money in the game and they had to get Messi a World Cup. The penalties they obtained were a complete disgrace.
1978: 45 years later, we still have 0 proof, 0 witnesses, 0 confessions and 0 documentation to claim that anything strange happened. Yet we still have idiots like you saying shit like that.
1986: Wow, so there was one goal in quarter finals that should have been disallowed? That's so crazy! Never happened before in the history of football!!! Except for... you know... all those goals that were scored in offside, or all those players who faked a foul to get a penalty, and so on. But sure, you keep saying Argentina is a special case. I have absolutely no doubt in my mind that you consider Argentina special.
2022: Stop whining already. Who said those penalties were not fairly awarded? Which one of them had an impact on the outcome? Also, France got 2 penalties in the final, how do you call that?
@@DTNenforcer what a butt-sore cry baby you are. I'm happy to see how much pain it gives you to see them winning. I hope they keep winning so you can keep crying. 🤣😂
West Germans were concerned human right abuses!
Are you thinking what I’m thinking?😂😂
Desaparesidos!!!1
Bro what about cricket world cup 2019 where we 🏴 won
Fixed