How do these compare to the Revolts 95? I have a pair of Revolts now but they are a little too flexy and i have a hard time holding an edge on the steeper runs especially on the hard pack. Will the Prodigy perform better on groomers than the Revolts (stability/dampness/edge hold)? I would say I'm 65-70% on trail and the rest in the trees and park.
There isn't much of an improvement in Prodigy when it comes to groomer performance. If you're in the mid-90's and looking for that next level, check out the Black Crows Camox, Armada ARV 94, and K2 Poacher. These skis still maintain their freestyle chops while adding more beef to the groomers and hard pack surfaces and carved turns.
Would this ski make a good all-mountain ski that can carve (groomers, and really steep stuff) that can also go in the park? Also, how would this prodigy 2 compare to the prodigy 1? Which one would better suit my need?
I think the 2 has more versatility and upside, especially if you're looking for all-mountain use including some softer snow. It's not bad in the park, but that's where the narrower 1 makes good sense. If park is secondary, I'd go with the 2.
hello, do you recommend the faction prodigy 1, prodigy 2 or armada edollo for grooming, a little off-piste and a little park? I would like a ski that's a bit freestyle but that really handles the slopes and speeds well? thank you
The Prodigy 2 makes a lot of sense here--it's probably the most freeride-oriented of these twins. Still great in the park but definitely opens up all-mountain skiing as well.
and i ski mostly groomers i go into the park every now and then and also dip my toes into skiing trees when the weather is nice. i've been looking at these and the bent 90s, which one would you suggest?
The Bent has a lower profile in the tips and tails, and that makes it more maneuverable and agile. If you're looking for the quicker and more energetic of the two, I'd lean to the Bent. For a sturdier and quieter feel, the Prodigy has more to offer, as well as more of a park-specific shape, build, and style.
I’m looking for a ski that is light and playful but can handle groomers because I live on the east coast. I like to hit small jumps and side hits but not big on the park so I’m looking for an all mountain ski that can do it all. Should I go for the prodigy 2 or the bent 90 or bent 100?
Hi @SkiEssentials . I'm a quite big guy, around 185 cm and 100 kg (6'1" and 220 lbs) and been skiing on the Rossignol Sky 7 HD which I feel is a bit too soft. I don't do much freestyle tricks but like playfyl riding with jumping and afternoon bumpy groomers and riding in the woods. Do you think these could suit me or would I need a stiffer ski. Still prefer playness over the super fast speeds.
I think if you prefer playfulness over stability at speed, the Prodigy will hold up just fine. Even without freestyle specific skiing, you will find a lot to like about this ski.
I like to stand on the ski with my boots on and see what looks good--that's usually a good indicator of how a ski's tips and tails look from that particular point of view. I don't think -2 is too far back, while center is kind of specific.
The Prodigy has a longer camber profile and less taper, making it more precise when not in trees or in deeper snow. There's not a whole lot better out there in the woods and powder than the QST 98 at this width. Prodigy is more creative and allows for more of a freestyle mentality, but it doesn't quite feel as sturdy or predictable as the QST.
@@SkiEssentials totally disagree. Prodigy 2 is much more sturdy and predictable than the 98. The extreme rocker in the tips and tails of the qst 98 make for a floppy ski that doesn’t inspire confidence on piste. Prodigy 2 is a phenomenal ski that does everything well.
It's a better park ski than it is all-mountain. If you're looking for a more versatile ski in the mid-90's you could go with something like the Salomon QST 98, Fischer Ranger 96, or the Line Blade Optic 96--all of these have some sort of turned up tail for park while keeping the performance at a very high level. I'm concerned Prodigy won't satisfy your on-trail carving needs.
Sure, it is a bit more park-focused, but that's fine. I'd also say the Armada ARV 94, Black Crows Camox, and K2 Poacher also fit this bill, leaning a bit more to the all-mountain side of the spectrum.
Im having doubts between the prodogy 2 and 3 i mostly ski groomers now with my carves but i want to get more into all mountain. I will still be using it for groomers a lot so wich one do you think will be better?
Hello, I ski at a smaller resort in mi and I am wondering what would be ideal and necessary, I mainly ski park because that is big at my resort but I do enjoy skiing trees, and all mnt. I think the prodigy two seems better for what I want but I am wondering if it is necessary and if I would be fine with the prodigy 1
Where is the majority of your time actually spent? If you are in softer snow, then the 2 may be a better choice, but if the reality is that you're in park, and not skiing in deeper snow, the 1 likely lines up better with that application.
The M-Free is livelier and more energetic than the Prodigy, which is versatile and well-rounded, but I kind of found non-descript in its character. You can do a whole lot with the Prodigy, but to me it doesn't feel like as polished or poppy of a product.
I think there's a bit more performance in the ARV, especially in terms of energy and pop. The Prodigy and the Bent are more slarvy and smeary vs. the more zesty ARV's.
I'm 5'9" 160lbs. I'm an advanced/expert skier. I spend half my time in the park and the other half freeriding. Would you recommend the 171cm or the 177cm?
The Prodigy has more dramatic splay in the tips and tails making it more amenable to park skiing and other creative avenues. The Bent is more like a directional twin that also is playful, but the camber profile and splay leans more to the all-mountain side of the spectrum. If you have park aspirations, I find the Prodigy to be a better choice. Durability-wise, we have not found the Factions to hold up that well, but it could be that the main user of these skis is a bit harder on them.
The Rustler has more power and stability to it while the Prodigy is more wiggly. In soft snow if you're looking for more of a playful option, the Prodigy certainly has its upsides but for more aggressive skiing, and especially if you're looking for more edge grip and responsiveness on firmer snow, the Rustler is a better option.
How do these compare to the Revolts 95? I have a pair of Revolts now but they are a little too flexy and i have a hard time holding an edge on the steeper runs especially on the hard pack. Will the Prodigy perform better on groomers than the Revolts (stability/dampness/edge hold)? I would say I'm 65-70% on trail and the rest in the trees and park.
There isn't much of an improvement in Prodigy when it comes to groomer performance. If you're in the mid-90's and looking for that next level, check out the Black Crows Camox, Armada ARV 94, and K2 Poacher. These skis still maintain their freestyle chops while adding more beef to the groomers and hard pack surfaces and carved turns.
Would this ski make a good all-mountain ski that can carve (groomers, and really steep stuff) that can also go in the park? Also, how would this prodigy 2 compare to the prodigy 1? Which one would better suit my need?
I think the 2 has more versatility and upside, especially if you're looking for all-mountain use including some softer snow. It's not bad in the park, but that's where the narrower 1 makes good sense. If park is secondary, I'd go with the 2.
hello, do you recommend the faction prodigy 1, prodigy 2 or armada edollo for grooming, a little off-piste and a little park? I would like a ski that's a bit freestyle but that really handles the slopes and speeds well? thank you
The Prodigy 2 makes a lot of sense here--it's probably the most freeride-oriented of these twins. Still great in the park but definitely opens up all-mountain skiing as well.
and i ski mostly groomers i go into the park every now and then and also dip my toes into skiing trees when the weather is nice. i've been looking at these and the bent 90s, which one would you suggest?
The Bent has a lower profile in the tips and tails, and that makes it more maneuverable and agile. If you're looking for the quicker and more energetic of the two, I'd lean to the Bent. For a sturdier and quieter feel, the Prodigy has more to offer, as well as more of a park-specific shape, build, and style.
I’m looking for a ski that is light and playful but can handle groomers because I live on the east coast. I like to hit small jumps and side hits but not big on the park so I’m looking for an all mountain ski that can do it all. Should I go for the prodigy 2 or the bent 90 or bent 100?
I think the 90 makes good sense for east coast stuff that you're looking to do. Nice and light with some good turning capabilities.
Hi @SkiEssentials . I'm a quite big guy, around 185 cm and 100 kg (6'1" and 220 lbs) and been skiing on the Rossignol Sky 7 HD which I feel is a bit too soft.
I don't do much freestyle tricks but like playfyl riding with jumping and afternoon bumpy groomers and riding in the woods.
Do you think these could suit me or would I need a stiffer ski. Still prefer playness over the super fast speeds.
I think if you prefer playfulness over stability at speed, the Prodigy will hold up just fine. Even without freestyle specific skiing, you will find a lot to like about this ski.
Hi team, where do you recommend to mount faction prodigy 2.0 for a more park-focused purposes? True center -1 cm or -2 cm or maybe -1.5cm?
I like to stand on the ski with my boots on and see what looks good--that's usually a good indicator of how a ski's tips and tails look from that particular point of view. I don't think -2 is too far back, while center is kind of specific.
I can't really test the Prodigy where I am, however I am very familiar with the QST lineup. How would you say these compare to the qst 98's?? Thanks!
The Prodigy has a longer camber profile and less taper, making it more precise when not in trees or in deeper snow. There's not a whole lot better out there in the woods and powder than the QST 98 at this width. Prodigy is more creative and allows for more of a freestyle mentality, but it doesn't quite feel as sturdy or predictable as the QST.
@@SkiEssentials totally disagree. Prodigy 2 is much more sturdy and predictable than the 98. The extreme rocker in the tips and tails of the qst 98 make for a floppy ski that doesn’t inspire confidence on piste. Prodigy 2 is a phenomenal ski that does everything well.
Hey!! I'm looking for a ski for the whole mountain, mainly for slopes, woods and a little bit of park. Would you recommend the Prodigy 2 to me?
It's a better park ski than it is all-mountain. If you're looking for a more versatile ski in the mid-90's you could go with something like the Salomon QST 98, Fischer Ranger 96, or the Line Blade Optic 96--all of these have some sort of turned up tail for park while keeping the performance at a very high level. I'm concerned Prodigy won't satisfy your on-trail carving needs.
would you recommend this as a all mountain ski that can also be used at the park? if not what’s a good all mountain ski? thanks
Sure, it is a bit more park-focused, but that's fine. I'd also say the Armada ARV 94, Black Crows Camox, and K2 Poacher also fit this bill, leaning a bit more to the all-mountain side of the spectrum.
@@SkiEssentialswhat side of the all mountain aspect to these lean more towards?
Im having doubts between the prodogy 2 and 3 i mostly ski groomers now with my carves but i want to get more into all mountain. I will still be using it for groomers a lot so wich one do you think will be better?
Prodigy 2, the prodigy 3 is more focused on freeride I think, since you ski mostly on groomers the prodigy 2s are the better choice in my opinion
Unless you know you prefer wider skis on groomers, the 2 will have more upside and torsional stiffness when it comes to mainly groomer skiing.
is the tails on the prodigy 2 stiffer, as seen in more directional skis?
They feel pretty flexible to me, and that's a lot to do with the tail splay as well. If it were flatter and more directional, it'd be about mid-stiff.
Hello, I ski at a smaller resort in mi and I am wondering what would be ideal and necessary, I mainly ski park because that is big at my resort but I do enjoy skiing trees, and all mnt. I think the prodigy two seems better for what I want but I am wondering if it is necessary and if I would be fine with the prodigy 1
Where is the majority of your time actually spent? If you are in softer snow, then the 2 may be a better choice, but if the reality is that you're in park, and not skiing in deeper snow, the 1 likely lines up better with that application.
How do these compare to the mfree 99s? Im a little worried about the mfrees maybe being too short, is this a good alternative?
The M-Free is livelier and more energetic than the Prodigy, which is versatile and well-rounded, but I kind of found non-descript in its character. You can do a whole lot with the Prodigy, but to me it doesn't feel like as polished or poppy of a product.
Would you recommend this or ARV 94 or Bent 90. For 50% groomes/ and 30/20 for off pist and park
I think there's a bit more performance in the ARV, especially in terms of energy and pop. The Prodigy and the Bent are more slarvy and smeary vs. the more zesty ARV's.
I'm 5'9" 160lbs. I'm an advanced/expert skier. I spend half my time in the park and the other half freeriding. Would you recommend the 171cm or the 177cm?
I'd go 177 if you're reasonably aggressive and enjoy stability at speed.
How do these compare to the bent 100? Also How is the long term durability of the Prodigy?
The Prodigy has more dramatic splay in the tips and tails making it more amenable to park skiing and other creative avenues. The Bent is more like a directional twin that also is playful, but the camber profile and splay leans more to the all-mountain side of the spectrum. If you have park aspirations, I find the Prodigy to be a better choice. Durability-wise, we have not found the Factions to hold up that well, but it could be that the main user of these skis is a bit harder on them.
How would you compare them to the rustler 10s?
The Rustler has more power and stability to it while the Prodigy is more wiggly. In soft snow if you're looking for more of a playful option, the Prodigy certainly has its upsides but for more aggressive skiing, and especially if you're looking for more edge grip and responsiveness on firmer snow, the Rustler is a better option.
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