I always like the idea that the Pak built the Ringworld but it does pose a few problems starting with why? Spoiler: we discover that the Ringworld is oriented to be edge on to the galactic core so that the eventual radiation from the core explosion would protect most of its inhabitants except for those living near the edges. So why would those ultra-xenophobes want to protect all those other species living on the various maps when the core explosion would solve that problem for them? Considering the near constant war among the Pak, how would they ever collaborate long enough to build a Ringworld? The Ringworld seems rather far from the Pak home world for them to be building it even if they are they smart enough to do it. While they seem to be behind many of the objects Louis and Co find, the shape of the armour for example, perhaps a few Pak also found the Ringworld, just as the Puppeteers did, and moved in. If this was long ago, their influence might have spread enough to become part of the background that Louis found. We've only seen a small percentage of the Ringworld, perhaps they don't control everything.
The whole "current addiction and subsequent withdrawal" thing is the setup for Louis being able to resist the smell of Tree of Life at the end of the novel.
I was at a convention where Larry Niven answered the question of how you beat a lucky protetor. He said that the ring world was the perfect place to hide from the galactic core explosion. The people of Earth would need it. It must survive. The combined luck of all the people of Earth out weighted Teela's luck. Thin, but at least he gave us an answer.
I like the alternate theory that saving the Ringworld required Teela Protector to lose. So Protector luck, in trying to save 95% of the population, overcame her individual luck.
@@TimStCroixIF I remember correctly, Louis himself hypothesizes that himself, that Teela knew what needed to be done to save the entirety of the ring, but her protector instincts couldn't let her do something that would kill that many hominids, so she let them kill her once she knew they understood what needed to be done.
Love the animations. It’s really too bad about this series, the ringworld itself is a super fun idea. I just feel like Niven isn’t super great at narrative.
Yeah, glad to see this comment. I'm in the middle of reading it and am wondering why it holds such a spot in people's hearts. I'm going to finish it, but I'm not enjoying the characters. I'm not enjoying the endless flying. They make a lot of stupid decisions and have really lame conflicts. It's extremely repetitive and about some.of the most odd subjects. I found this video on an attempt to find out if there is something I'm missing.
I always like the idea that the Pak built the Ringworld but it does pose a few problems starting with why? Spoiler: we discover that the Ringworld is oriented to be edge on to the galactic core so that the eventual radiation from the core explosion would protect most of its inhabitants except for those living near the edges. So why would those ultra-xenophobes want to protect all those other species living on the various maps when the core explosion would solve that problem for them? Considering the near constant war among the Pak, how would they ever collaborate long enough to build a Ringworld? The Ringworld seems rather far from the Pak home world for them to be building it even if they are they smart enough to do it. While they seem to be behind many of the objects Louis and Co find, the shape of the armour for example, perhaps a few Pak also found the Ringworld, just as the Puppeteers did, and moved in. If this was long ago, their influence might have spread enough to become part of the background that Louis found. We've only seen a small percentage of the Ringworld, perhaps they don't control everything.
The whole "current addiction and subsequent withdrawal" thing is the setup for Louis being able to resist the smell of Tree of Life at the end of the novel.
I have to wonder if Roddenbury might have patterned Capt. Kirk after Louis Wu/
@@relentlessmadmankirk came first
thanks it has been 40 and 37 years after reading these.
Great reviews man, I love it. Your use of AI really adds to my mind's imagination.
Great work. Hope you work on Ringworld Throne and Ringworld's Children.
I was at a convention where Larry Niven answered the question of how you beat a lucky protetor. He said that the ring world was the perfect place to hide from the galactic core explosion. The people of Earth would need it. It must survive. The combined luck of all the people of Earth out weighted Teela's luck. Thin, but at least he gave us an answer.
He wrote a story about what 'luck' would actually look like eventually n 'Safe at Any Speed'
I like the alternate theory that saving the Ringworld required Teela Protector to lose. So Protector luck, in trying to save 95% of the population, overcame her individual luck.
@@TimStCroix Not bad. Protector do have an odd set of priorities. I like it.
@@TimStCroixIF I remember correctly, Louis himself hypothesizes that himself, that Teela knew what needed to be done to save the entirety of the ring, but her protector instincts couldn't let her do something that would kill that many hominids, so she let them kill her once she knew they understood what needed to be done.
What about the 3rd book?
Oh yeah! Friday, SciFi secrets day!😎
Love the animations. It’s really too bad about this series, the ringworld itself is a super fun idea. I just feel like Niven isn’t super great at narrative.
His collaborations are a better read, in my opinion. That way there is someone to handle character and plot development.
Yeah, glad to see this comment. I'm in the middle of reading it and am wondering why it holds such a spot in people's hearts. I'm going to finish it, but I'm not enjoying the characters. I'm not enjoying the endless flying. They make a lot of stupid decisions and have really lame conflicts. It's extremely repetitive and about some.of the most odd subjects. I found this video on an attempt to find out if there is something I'm missing.
Nessus never brought any stepping disks to the ringworld, thats why they used the cycles.
I’m now reading Fate Of Worlds I believe is the final Ringworld story, or is it that’s the question :)
I must have missed something...it didn't sound like AI to me.
I am enjoying listening to this recap of the RingWorld stories but the AI is very cringey. RUclips creators are using it way too much.