UNBELIEVABLE that you narrow down the inventions by religion vs. the region. I can tell you one thing: as an Iranian, I don't appreciate having the grassroots of my culture that pre-dates Islam by 2500 years, and carried down through the ages, put down to the account of "Islamic" inventions. This type of categorization is cultural imperialism, and specific to the forms Westerners categorize.
@Dani Al Islam did not exist prior to the seventh century (600-700A.D.), and it's an archeological fact that Mecca did not exist at all during Muhammad's lifetime. The pagan cult of Islam was nowhere prior to the chomo Muhammad creating it for his own devious reasons.
@Dani Al I'm not a religious individual, thank you, also quite a few academics have proven through peer reviewed research that not only did Mecca not exist during Muhammad's lifetime, but also no trade went through that area either. Both of those facts are a huge problem for Islam. It would be equivalent to science discovering Jerusalem didn't exist in the first century AD. Why it would mean that religion is totally made up and false, and also that the stories of it's founder are made up fairytales. Which in this case is what Islam is, a dangerous fairytale for academically blind individuals like yourself. Btw, the name of the professor that discovered no trade went through the area where Mecca is located, is Patricia Crone. There's others also. In regards to ancient maps, Mecca doesn't appear on any until the beginning of the tenth century, 905 A.D. It first gets mentioned in the 750's, oddly enough right when the leadership of Islam had a major change. The fact is is that the Islamic narrative of it's beginning is not supported by historical documents or by archeology. The most prominent findings by archaeologists at Mecca has been a twelfth century ottoman fort, that's it. Your hostility and stubbornness against the facts/truth is understandable, but incorrect and misplaced; you're angry and shocked that everything you've been taught your whole life is a lie. I'm not your enemy, don't take it out on me. My job is to state the facts, so that others might hopefully, eventually open their eyes, and be free.
@Dani Al btw, I didn't even delve into the other huge problem of Islam, and that is the fact that of all the different Quran manuscripts, not a single full manuscript of the Quran dates back to Uthman, let alone to Muhammad.
@Dani Al and please don't ever insult me again by asking that your "god" guides me. Your god allah is no god, but trash from the imagination of a seventh century sex pervert: Sahih al-Bukhari 5134 Narrated `Aisha: that the Prophet (ﷺ) married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that `Aisha remained with the Prophet (ﷺ) for nine years (i.e. till his death)."
Norwegian watching from Rif Valley in Morocco. If l mention anything about astronomy to anyone here l usually get a blank stare in reply. Too much poverty for people to get educated so l only get to be all intellectual like in YT comments to strangers, so yay for immigrantion. Wtf was l thinking moving here anyway.
Just like biblical and historical evidence proves that jesus and his apostles were vegatarians biblical and historical evidence also proves that the trinity, atonement, original sin and hell are very late misinterpretations and are not supported by the early creed hence its not a part of Christianity I pray that Allah swt revives Christianity both inside and out preserves and protects it and makes its massage be witnessed by all people but at the right moment, place and time The secret text of the Bible says ye shall know them by their fruits So too that I say to my christian brothers and sisters be fruitful and multiply Best regards from a Muslim [ line of ismail ]
Having spent most of my life in the Mid East and having (quite often) visited everyone of these places, I'd say this is not a "bad" primer on "Islamic inventions", though it could definitely benefit from some accuracy; well, okay...it could benefit from lots of accuracy; the list of inaccuracies would fill a university term paper. But, as Holmes said about Watson: "It may be that you are not yourself luminous, but you are a conductor of light. Some people without possessing genius have a remarkable power of stimulating it...” Maybe the producers tried to process too much info in a short time frame. For anyone who is seriously interested in this topic, go to Istanbul and visit the "History of Islamic Science and Technology Museum"; you'll need at least two days there.
@@ColleenJousma Thanks for asking, indeed I appreciate it. Though the information is not grossly incorrect, there are some historical inaccuracies; there are a few comments on those. But no problem, the world is not going to stop spinning because of those inaccuracies; mind you, a few of my university profs would disagree with me on that. 🤣🤣 Personally, I think the video can inspire those who wish to delve deeper; do some fact checking on each segment/item; definitely ignore the sensationalism. It's a fascinating topic; unfortunately there are not many reference materials in English; plenty in Turkish, Ottoman Turkish and Arabic.
So you helping, or big timing? Couldn’t tell because your sarcasm is rough… and your analogy about a term paper is less than impressive. You just wrote one and it’s marginal. And how should we take a Brian Barnes word for it. Be more nuanced.
Because it was under the banner of the Islamic state and under Sharia and the Qur’an, many sciences and discoveries were taken from the Qur’an as a basis,, Most of the scholars in the golden age of Islam were also religious scholars, unlike the Christians who were inclined to irreligion and defamation of religion and there is no such thing as a christian state or Christian law, it always changes according to people's whims .....!
Funny that 21st century islamic apologists point all this to their religion when most of it was inspired or copied from previous civilizations like Byzantines , Visigoths and Persian Sassanids..
Why not display the inventions and discoveries of the Abbasid era, and some inventors and discoverers such as Al-Batani, Ammar Al-Mawsili, Al-Khwarizmi, Ibn Al-Haytham, Ibn Al-Nafis, Ibn Sinan, Ibn Khaldun, Bani Musa Al-Badi’ Al-Jazari, Hassan Al-Ramah Idrisi, Abu al-Qasim al-Zahrawi, and al-Biruni....
I think more people would say that the antikythera mechanism would be the first computer which itself was basically an astrolabe. So I guess you’re right, in a sense.
Nope. Your right, it predates the astrolabe. Romans killed Archimedes and forced Europe into a dark age of tyranny and subjugation, that they would later claim came after their downfall. They stole history with force of arms and state religion. Islam followed suit.
@@darthex0 It has been recorded that Muslims while conquering Greece found Archimedes' book and used his geometry to create all these mosques and architecture. We should add that in honor of his genius. Wish the narrator mentioned that historical bit.
@@WickedFelina Muslims didn't conquer greece until the 16th century Ottomans. I think you meant byzantine Syria, which was a thriving civilization long before muhammad invented islam.
Thank you for bringing up the Christian roots of Islamic architecture, Waldemar! But should you not have mentioned the prevations of the Islamic conquest as well?
An extremely misleading title. This is a primarily art documentary by an art critic, not a documentary about inventions or science, or history of ideas. Why editorialize it, and in such a misleading way?
They are referring to the time period or era. Also they mean inventions of the Islamic world at the time. It seems to me you’re just nit picking even though you know exactly what they mean.
It was the Islamic religion that brought Europe out of the Dark Ages and gave them , the Europeans , their Age of Enlightenment and productivity. Thank you
It is a fake propaganda created by modern self hating european libtards and islamic apologists. The Fact is that the so called "dArK aGe" europe was culturally and scientifically more advanced than Sub-saharan africa and the Americas and was closely just behind the middle east. From about the 1300s europe starts to overtake middle east in most fields for the first time in thousands of years despite the several geographical advantages middle east had over europe.
The utter absurdity of attributing the rebirth of western culture to a horrific, bloody religion that spread by the sword, cutting and intercepting trade routes from the west to the east thus impacting economic exchanges. Also the primary propulsion into renaissance occurred in northern Italy, and particularly in the 1300s/1400s not under the barbarity of Islamic occupancy. If islam had supplied Europe with rebirth it would have occurred traditionally in Spain or Byzantium Anatolia which it did not. Also the enlightenment occurred in the 1700s. And any scientific cultural significance during the time of Islam, had almost exclusively to do with Greek, Persian and Indian culture not some specialties to which is applied to Islam. Islam today and for the past 800 years has been the backwater and staple of regression in human civilization. Cant possibly find any rectification to it’s falsity besides your delusions of history.
Astrolabes date back to 220 BC Islam was not founded until 610 AD. Perhaps doing actual research before making a video with false claims and incorrect facts would be prudent.
During the Islamic conquest waged by war beginning with the Prophet (BPBUH), Archimedes book of geometry was found. This is where Muslims got the information how to Mosques, palacial homes, palaces and cities. Yes, all the columns are different and are pieces taken from all the houses of worship conquered and/or destroyed by the Islamic conquest. Convert if you were pagan or Hindu or die. If you were Jewish or Christian (or 'people of the book) convert or become a Demi, which means "slave". As a slave you had to pay Muslims every week 60% of your wages by getting on your knees and humbling yourself to your Muslim Lords. That's where all the money came from to build these mosques and architecture.
Why on earth would they have needed Archimedes when the Arabian world would have been aware of the architecture of Babylon ( the first culture to ever use geometry to track jupiter in the night sky btw), Mesopotamia and the ancient palaces of Assyria, all of which are older than Greek architecture? You have it the wrong way round, the Greeks built off the foundations of that which was established in the ancient cradle of civilizations in the Levant. Islamic culture is a natural extension of that older order. The arabic and by extension, the Islamic world needed no help with building structures at all.Who on earth said they found a book by Archimedes?! Archimedes never wrote any books on architecture, in fact he didn't write any books at all. Do you mean the nine treatises that survived ? They concern things like the relation between the surface and volume of a sphere, he wasn't in any way a civil engineer.( the archimedes screw is the closest he got) so which book are you talking about and who says Islamic architects used it? Quote: 'The earliest recorded beginnings of geometry can be traced to early peoples, who discovered obtuse triangles in the ancient Indus Valley and ancient Babylonia from around 3000 BC. Early geometry was a collection of empirically discovered principles concerning lengths, angles, areas, and volumes, which were developed to meet some practical need in surveying, construction, astronomy, and various crafts. Among these were some surprisingly sophisticated principles, and a modern mathematician might be hard put to derive some of them without the use of calculus and algebra . For example, both the Egyptians and the Babylonians were aware of versions of the Pythagorean theorem about 1500 years before Pythagoras'
Its well known that Greece was influenced by all kinds of cultural innovation coming out of the levant. The arabic world pretty much laid the basis for everything following, Islam is a cultural outgrowth from those roots overlayed with monotheism.( Egypt isn't exactly the levant obviously, the northern part was considered to be in the ancient world but you get the idea) . Quote: Greece borrowing from the east and south in the period before its fifth-century BC efflorescence is well known: Greek statuary and temple-building have long been known to have had their origins in Egypt, for example, and it is well-rehearsed that there is, say, a relationship between Homer's Iliad and the much earlier Babylonian epic Gilgamesh.
_"Our use of the phrase "The Dark Ages" to cover the period from 600 to 1000 marks our undue concentration on Western Europe .... From India to Spain, the brilliant civilization of Islam flourished. What was lost to Christendom at this time was not lost to civilization, but quite the contrary .... To us it seems that West-European civilization is civilization, but this is a narrow view."_ - Bertrand Russell _"Thanks to the teachings of the Qur'an and its emphasis on the cultivation of knowledge... Different scientific disciplines were derived from the Qur'an and spread across the world by Muslim thinkers. The world was illuminated with the light of the Qur'an and the culture of Islam."_ - Rev. Bosworth Smith
When you contrast the dignity and wit of Kenneth Clark 50 years ago with this drip's grandstanding, you get some idea of how much the TV documentary has declined.
@@fairwfriend His sort is an embarrassment to this American. My parents and I visited Egypt, Israel, Syria in the 1960s and got to visit many masjids. All of them beautiful in their own way. My favourite was the Alabaster Mosque in Cairo. So light and airy. And the beautiful carpets! Many modern churches are just...sterile. Orthodox churches are similar to masjids in that the icons and frescoes attempt to bring Paradise to earth. And generally succeed.
I would say this title is a bit sensationalist. I do think that there is a gap in knowledge of Middle Eastern art here in the west, however the labelling of Islamic *era* art such as the fresco in the Quseir Amra as purely *Islamic* is silly. With just a little knowledge of pre- Islamic art we can discern that those frescoes were heavily influenced by pre-Islamic cultures within the region and weren’t necessarily painted by Muslims at the time even if it was commissioned by a Muslim. I think the last part is the only thing Islamic about it. Nevertheless, it is more useful to discriminate art based on regions and historical context rather than make a sweeping generalization. But we shouldn’t take art so seriously as there of course many infinite interpretations, let’s just be honest with ourselves
The narrator seems to know a great deal about the Islamic "God", "holiness", "sacredness", &c. What the F is he talking about? This is superstitious babble, not history.
Startling to see the amazing backslide and degradation Islam has gone through. From one of the most advanced, egalitarian cultures in the middle ages to the most regressed, fundamentalist horror show it is today in all its denominations.
Actually even that idealized "golden age" is a modern islamist propaganda, even propagated by self hating western leftists. The few good things that came during that period was when they distanced themselves from islamic fundamentalism
Ghenis Khan and the Moguls would disagree with you. They conquered the greatest territory in the shortest time. Moslems would be second - although remarkable as well.
overlooked?? look up arab astronomy (not islam astronomy) islam is the youngest religion of them all, there has always been great minds in the middle east, 1000s of years before islam ever became a thing
It's amazing to see the wealth that flowed from immoral religious conquest. Still, the academic stagnation caused by Islam ended the Ottoman Empire and all further expansion. Even the geometric art is due to an immoral dictate that humans shouldn't be drawn. This is an episode of the outcome of darkness imposed by religion, where humans struggle to demonstrate wealth and power.
Hm, but people have alway been religious in those era. Look at the greeks and the romans. Both religious. Both produced philosophy, engineering, medical science, math, astronomy... . The Victorians where great engeneers and scientists but also very pias. Maby it is how you profess your religion and how you deal with people of other confessions that determine how a civilisation evolves. Blaming all evil or all greatness on religion is just not correct.
@@themanformerlycalled and yet the greatest philosophers realised millenia ago that the persuit of truth of a cause must first assume no god or gods. Xenophanes of Colophon is a great example. It's only after we do away with the "I don't know therefore god did it" that understanding could really progress. And the story is repeated where the more theistic the period of time, the more unscientific and regressive the development of the society. Imagine the developmental leaps victorian England could have made of great scientists were not thestic. The dogma of religion held back Darwin from publishing for decades. And that's just one example amoungst thousands. Religion is yet to demonstrate that it is a force for good (let alone progress) in this world and that's shocking given how old religion is and how many people simply assume religion is good.
@@PhilipLeitch it is true that thinking improves when religious dogma does not influences the process. It is indeed shocking to see how in some parts of the world people fall back to religious dogma to understand the world. For example North America. But science has only not evolved because of the banning of religion. The access to knowledge and education of the people has contributed to progress world wide.
@@themanformerlycalled agreed. Only when religion and religious ideas aren't banned by religion can knowledge progress. I'd rather have questions I can't answer than answers I can't question.
@@PhilipLeitch not all religions banned ideas. It's only Christianity which did. That's why countless ancient knowledge was preserved by Muslims and were not lost. It's why 0 is a number
All of these technologies came from the Greeks.They travel through Byzantia and where lost to the rest of Europe due to the growth of Roman occupation.
No,Ancient Greece,a totally different period.Greece where the most advanced at the time and ruled much of the Mediterranean,there temples show this.I don't think Greece today consider themselves part of Asia or are you referring to the Middle East,Asia is Asia with sea boards of the Indian Ocean and the Pacific.
History is not all exact science. It will always have elements of the culture and philosophy of those telling the tale. You cannot take the western views out of the stories by the western historians. The same with their eastern counterparts. We are all products of our upbringing. How will we look at our past in the future? No one knows. No point being offended by the perspective the narrative of this documentary.
Bidadari are angles of heaven. Everyone who went to heaven will remain virgin for eternity. Everyone will remain youthful for eternity, no pain, sick , we don't have to go to the toilet either. Women who went to heaven fragrance 2x stronger than angles of heaven
Of course, the Muslims took over the eastern Roman Empire and the Persian Empire so there were a lot of inventions to be found. not really anything to do with religion.
David Wood for correct info on Islam, as well as Apostate prophet. All you need to know about Islam and it's "prophet": Sahih al-Bukhari 5134 Narrated `Aisha: that the Prophet (ﷺ) married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that `Aisha remained with the Prophet (ﷺ) for nine years (i.e. till his death).
@Dani Al if that were true you wouldn't be here smack talking the guy, now would you...I've never known anyone that continuously beats down an opponent when that enemy is nullified. Such a person would be a fool.
All you need to know about Christianity. See? They all have crazy shit. Lot and His Daughters Come, let us get our father drunk with wine so we can sleep with him and preserve his line.”So that night they got their father drunk with wine, and the firstborn went in and slept with her father; he was not aware when she lay down or when she got up
Oh yeah, Adam and Eve had three sons yet those sons had children. There was only one woman...oh and Mary was 12 when she had Jesus so what's that biblical saying? Cast not the first stone?
In many ways they were very advanced. I wouldn't call all their busy designs at though. It looks more like someone drank every paint color them puked it in their walls. Originally they payed towards Petra. Their goofy crap is so made up they can't even get the direction right much less their God. It all cracks me up.
@@alangervasis You should study History instead of posting nonsense. I am sorry the reality of what happened doesn't fit your Q-Annon vision of the World.
At least the Catholics know how to use gold in art. The Muslim art looks like someone ate all the colors of paint there was then puked it out on the walls.
Astrolabes date back to 220 BC Islam was not founded until 610 AD. Perhaps doing actual research before making a video with false claims and incorrect facts would be prudent.
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UNBELIEVABLE that you narrow down the inventions by religion vs. the region. I can tell you one thing: as an Iranian, I don't appreciate having the grassroots of my culture that pre-dates Islam by 2500 years, and carried down through the ages, put down to the account of "Islamic" inventions. This type of categorization is cultural imperialism, and specific to the forms Westerners categorize.
I couldn't agree more. I think the show is trying to pay lip service to Islam as it's the politically correct thing to do.
@Dani Al Islam did not exist prior to the seventh century (600-700A.D.), and it's an archeological fact that Mecca did not exist at all during Muhammad's lifetime. The pagan cult of Islam was nowhere prior to the chomo Muhammad creating it for his own devious reasons.
@Dani Al I'm not a religious individual, thank you, also quite a few academics have proven through peer reviewed research that not only did Mecca not exist during Muhammad's lifetime, but also no trade went through that area either. Both of those facts are a huge problem for Islam. It would be equivalent to science discovering Jerusalem didn't exist in the first century AD. Why it would mean that religion is totally made up and false, and also that the stories of it's founder are made up fairytales. Which in this case is what Islam is, a dangerous fairytale for academically blind individuals like yourself. Btw, the name of the professor that discovered no trade went through the area where Mecca is located, is Patricia Crone. There's others also. In regards to ancient maps, Mecca doesn't appear on any until the beginning of the tenth century, 905 A.D. It first gets mentioned in the 750's, oddly enough right when the leadership of Islam had a major change. The fact is is that the Islamic narrative of it's beginning is not supported by historical documents or by archeology. The most prominent findings by archaeologists at Mecca has been a twelfth century ottoman fort, that's it. Your hostility and stubbornness against the facts/truth is understandable, but incorrect and misplaced; you're angry and shocked that everything you've been taught your whole life is a lie. I'm not your enemy, don't take it out on me. My job is to state the facts, so that others might hopefully, eventually open their eyes, and be free.
@Dani Al btw, I didn't even delve into the other huge problem of Islam, and that is the fact that of all the different Quran manuscripts, not a single full manuscript of the Quran dates back to Uthman, let alone to Muhammad.
@Dani Al and please don't ever insult me again by asking that your "god" guides me. Your god allah is no god, but trash from the imagination of a seventh century sex pervert:
Sahih al-Bukhari 5134
Narrated `Aisha:
that the Prophet (ﷺ) married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that `Aisha remained with the Prophet (ﷺ) for nine years (i.e. till his death)."
So as a US citizen watching this from Istanbul. This is like a cherry on top!
Norwegian watching from Rif Valley in Morocco. If l mention anything about astronomy to anyone here l usually get a blank stare in reply. Too much poverty for people to get educated so l only get to be all intellectual like in YT comments to strangers, so yay for immigrantion. Wtf was l thinking moving here anyway.
what are you doing over there?? are you an CIA operative??
Thank you for this❤️
Just like biblical and historical evidence proves that jesus and his apostles were vegatarians biblical and historical evidence also proves that the trinity, atonement, original sin and hell are very late misinterpretations and are not supported by the early creed hence its not a part of Christianity I pray that Allah swt revives Christianity both inside and out preserves and protects it and makes its massage be witnessed by all people but at the right moment, place and time
The secret text of the Bible says ye shall know them by their fruits
So too that I say to my christian brothers and sisters be fruitful and multiply
Best regards from a Muslim [ line of ismail ]
This is the second part of a documentary on The Dark Ages..the first part makes for a better all around documentary.
Having spent most of my life in the Mid East and having (quite often) visited everyone of these places, I'd say this is not a "bad" primer on "Islamic inventions", though it could definitely benefit from some accuracy; well, okay...it could benefit from lots of accuracy; the list of inaccuracies would fill a university term paper. But, as Holmes said about Watson: "It may be that you are not yourself luminous, but you are a conductor of light. Some people without possessing genius have a remarkable power of stimulating it...” Maybe the producers tried to process too much info in a short time frame. For anyone who is seriously interested in this topic, go to Istanbul and visit the "History of Islamic Science and Technology Museum"; you'll need at least two days there.
Are they simplifying it too much? Is that why you said it's not correct?
@@ColleenJousma Thanks for asking, indeed I appreciate it. Though the information is not grossly incorrect, there are some historical inaccuracies; there are a few comments on those. But no problem, the world is not going to stop spinning because of those inaccuracies; mind you, a few of my university profs would disagree with me on that. 🤣🤣 Personally, I think the video can inspire those who wish to delve deeper; do some fact checking on each segment/item; definitely ignore the sensationalism. It's a fascinating topic; unfortunately there are not many reference materials in English; plenty in Turkish, Ottoman Turkish and Arabic.
So you helping, or big timing? Couldn’t tell because your sarcasm is rough… and your analogy about a term paper is less than impressive. You just wrote one and it’s marginal. And how should we take a Brian Barnes word for it. Be more nuanced.
@@XanthusBarnabas What are you trying to say
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Why "Islamic" inventions? We wouldn't call the invention of the printing press a "Christian" invention, would we?
we wouldn't.
Because it was under the banner of the Islamic state and under Sharia and the Qur’an, many sciences and discoveries were taken from the Qur’an as a basis,, Most of the scholars in the golden age of Islam were also religious scholars, unlike the Christians who were inclined to irreligion and defamation of religion and there is no such thing as a christian state or Christian law, it always changes according to people's whims .....!
Even when an invention was by a Jew, it was published in arabic and the authors had to use a fake, Arab name.
As it was primarily invented to print the Bible...yes, I would.
@@kevinroche3334 touché : )
Funny that 21st century islamic apologists point all this to their religion when most of it was inspired or copied from previous civilizations like Byzantines , Visigoths and Persian Sassanids..
haters stay mad the romans ahd many things wrong
This is like top gear for ancient history
lol
So true 😂
Haha the narrator could definitely be one of Clarkson's cousins 🤣
Why not display the inventions and discoveries of the Abbasid era, and some inventors and discoverers such as
Al-Batani, Ammar Al-Mawsili, Al-Khwarizmi, Ibn Al-Haytham, Ibn Al-Nafis, Ibn Sinan, Ibn Khaldun, Bani Musa Al-Badi’ Al-Jazari, Hassan Al-Ramah
Idrisi, Abu al-Qasim al-Zahrawi, and al-Biruni....
I think more people would say that the antikythera mechanism would be the first computer which itself was basically an astrolabe. So I guess you’re right, in a sense.
Nope. Your right, it predates the astrolabe. Romans killed Archimedes and forced Europe into a dark age of tyranny and subjugation, that they would later claim came after their downfall. They stole history with force of arms and state religion. Islam followed suit.
@@darthex0 It has been recorded that Muslims while conquering Greece found Archimedes' book and used his geometry to create all these mosques and architecture. We should add that in honor of his genius. Wish the narrator mentioned that historical bit.
@@darthex0 You do realize that romans were pagans when they killed archimedes right?
@@WickedFelina Muslims didn't conquer greece until the 16th century Ottomans. I think you meant byzantine Syria, which was a thriving civilization long before muhammad invented islam.
Thank you for bringing up the Christian roots of Islamic architecture, Waldemar!
But should you not have mentioned the prevations of the Islamic conquest as well?
An extremely misleading title. This is a primarily art documentary by an art critic, not a documentary about inventions or science, or history of ideas. Why editorialize it, and in such a misleading way?
There is no such thing as an "Islamic invention." People invent things, not religions.
Google Mary Baker Eddy.
@@75YBA Not even close.
what about the fact that christianity is against Science? It was true then it is true now.
They are referring to the time period or era. Also they mean inventions of the Islamic world at the time. It seems to me you’re just nit picking even though you know exactly what they mean.
It was the Islamic religion that brought Europe out of the Dark Ages and gave them , the Europeans , their Age of Enlightenment and productivity. Thank you
True very true the irony of things
It is a fake propaganda created by modern self hating european libtards and islamic apologists. The Fact is that the so called "dArK aGe" europe was culturally and scientifically more advanced than Sub-saharan africa and the Americas and was closely just behind the middle east. From about the 1300s europe starts to overtake middle east in most fields for the first time in thousands of years despite the several geographical advantages middle east had over europe.
The utter absurdity of attributing the rebirth of western culture to a horrific, bloody religion that spread by the sword, cutting and intercepting trade routes from the west to the east thus impacting economic exchanges. Also the primary propulsion into renaissance occurred in northern Italy, and particularly in the 1300s/1400s not under the barbarity of Islamic occupancy. If islam had supplied Europe with rebirth it would have occurred traditionally in Spain or Byzantium Anatolia which it did not. Also the enlightenment occurred in the 1700s. And any scientific cultural significance during the time of Islam, had almost exclusively to do with Greek, Persian and Indian culture not some specialties to which is applied to Islam. Islam today and for the past 800 years has been the backwater and staple of regression in human civilization. Cant possibly find any rectification to it’s falsity besides your delusions of history.
Astrolabes date back to 220 BC
Islam was not founded until 610 AD.
Perhaps doing actual research before making a video with false claims and incorrect facts would be prudent.
During the Islamic conquest waged by war beginning with the Prophet (BPBUH), Archimedes book of geometry was found. This is where Muslims got the information how to Mosques, palacial homes, palaces and cities.
Yes, all the columns are different and are pieces taken from all the houses of worship conquered and/or destroyed by the Islamic conquest. Convert if you were pagan or Hindu or die. If you were Jewish or Christian (or 'people of the book) convert or become a Demi, which means "slave". As a slave you had to pay Muslims every week 60% of your wages by getting on your knees and humbling yourself to your Muslim Lords. That's where all the money came from to build these mosques and architecture.
Why on earth would they have needed Archimedes when the Arabian world would have been aware of the architecture of Babylon ( the first culture to ever use geometry to track jupiter in the night sky btw), Mesopotamia and the ancient palaces of Assyria, all of which are older than Greek architecture? You have it the wrong way round, the Greeks built off the foundations of that which was established in the ancient cradle of civilizations in the Levant. Islamic culture is a natural extension of that older order. The arabic and by extension, the Islamic world needed no help with building structures at all.Who on earth said they found a book by Archimedes?! Archimedes never wrote any books on architecture, in fact he didn't write any books at all. Do you mean the nine treatises that survived ? They concern things like the relation between the surface and volume of a sphere, he wasn't in any way a civil engineer.( the archimedes screw is the closest he got) so which book are you talking about and who says Islamic architects used it?
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'The earliest recorded beginnings of geometry can be traced to early peoples, who discovered obtuse triangles in the ancient Indus Valley and ancient Babylonia from around 3000 BC. Early geometry was a collection of empirically discovered principles concerning lengths, angles, areas, and volumes, which were developed to meet some practical need in surveying, construction, astronomy, and various crafts. Among these were some surprisingly sophisticated principles, and a modern mathematician might be hard put to derive some of them without the use of calculus and algebra . For example, both the Egyptians and the Babylonians were aware of versions of the Pythagorean theorem about 1500 years before Pythagoras'
Its well known that Greece was influenced by all kinds of cultural innovation coming out of the levant. The arabic world pretty much laid the basis for everything following, Islam is a cultural outgrowth from those roots overlayed with monotheism.( Egypt isn't exactly the levant obviously, the northern part was considered to be in the ancient world but you get the idea) . Quote:
Greece borrowing from the east and south in the period before its fifth-century BC efflorescence is well known: Greek statuary and temple-building have long been known to have had their origins in Egypt, for example, and it is well-rehearsed that there is, say, a relationship between Homer's Iliad and the much earlier Babylonian epic Gilgamesh.
Funny how people have always enslaved people, now the world is hung up on a single amount of years as if it was the only time ever.
get out of here troll !
_"Our use of the phrase "The Dark Ages" to cover the period from 600 to 1000 marks our undue concentration on Western Europe .... From India to Spain, the brilliant civilization of Islam flourished. What was lost to Christendom at this time was not lost to civilization, but quite the contrary .... To us it seems that West-European civilization is civilization, but this is a narrow view."_
- Bertrand Russell
_"Thanks to the teachings of the Qur'an and its emphasis on the cultivation of knowledge... Different scientific disciplines were derived from the Qur'an and spread across the world by Muslim thinkers. The world was illuminated with the light of the Qur'an and the culture of Islam."_
- Rev. Bosworth Smith
When you contrast the dignity and wit of Kenneth Clark 50 years ago with this drip's grandstanding, you get some idea of how much the TV documentary has declined.
I always found Kenneth Clark rather pretentious and up himself... actually... but as for Jacob Bronowski... no one equals his presentation....
Anyone else notice when he replaced, “slaughtering christians and stealing their temples “,with ,”busy borrowing “?
This should be better titled...
The first 4 minutes shows that Mumad held Islam back from spreading.
Maybe we should not be so quick to judge his foibles.
Most of those were creations of the Greeks and Romans
cap haters stay mad
"The Dome of the Rock" is an incredible architectural feat. But, that interior is gaudy, disgusting mess.
Way to tell us you're from the USA without saying you're from the USA.
@@fairwfriend 😂
@@fairwfriend His sort is an embarrassment to this American.
My parents and I visited Egypt, Israel, Syria in the 1960s and got to visit many masjids. All of them beautiful in their own way. My favourite was the Alabaster Mosque in Cairo. So light and airy. And the beautiful carpets! Many modern churches are just...sterile.
Orthodox churches are similar to masjids in that the icons and frescoes attempt to bring Paradise to earth. And generally succeed.
I would say this title is a bit sensationalist. I do think that there is a gap in knowledge of Middle Eastern art here in the west, however the labelling of Islamic *era* art such as the fresco in the Quseir Amra as purely *Islamic* is silly. With just a little knowledge of pre- Islamic art we can discern that those frescoes were heavily influenced by pre-Islamic cultures within the region and weren’t necessarily painted by Muslims at the time even if it was commissioned by a Muslim. I think the last part is the only thing Islamic about it. Nevertheless, it is more useful to discriminate art based on regions and historical context rather than make a sweeping generalization. But we shouldn’t take art so seriously as there of course many infinite interpretations, let’s just be honest with ourselves
You better check the castles that was built by Umayyad
@@mhd2680 They are not upto the mark of european castles.
@@alangervasis
Hahahaha
Jeez they were built over a hundred years after the Islamic conquests.
Does anything by Muslims irk you so?
Don't forget the Antikythera mechanism was a computer. The astrolabe was far older than Islam. Hypatia used them & they were far older thhan her.
The narrator seems to know a great deal about the Islamic "God", "holiness", "sacredness", &c. What the F is he talking about? This is superstitious babble, not history.
Oh dear little silly boy... You have so much yet to learn about the world...
Startling to see the amazing backslide and degradation Islam has gone through. From one of the most advanced, egalitarian cultures in the middle ages to the most regressed, fundamentalist horror show it is today in all its denominations.
Actually even that idealized "golden age" is a modern islamist propaganda, even propagated by self hating western leftists. The few good things that came during that period was when they distanced themselves from islamic fundamentalism
Your mistake was calling it “egalitarian” 😂🥴
4:21 Correction: the Iberian Peninsula is not Spain…
"The noon of the papacy was the midnight of the world"
Lets just pray and sacrifice here for supreme being
Respect all religions. ~G. Gurdjieff.
Ghenis Khan and the Moguls would disagree with you. They conquered the greatest territory in the shortest time. Moslems would be second - although remarkable as well.
overlooked?? look up arab astronomy (not islam astronomy) islam is the youngest religion of them all, there has always been great minds in the middle east, 1000s of years before islam ever became a thing
Well, we do not call islamic empire. It is caliphate. Far different than an empire.
Waldemar you don't know your Bible. the Second Temple was built 400 years before Herod was born or even thought of.
He sure doesn't because he also calls it "backwards", "dark" and etc....
It's amazing to see the wealth that flowed from immoral religious conquest. Still, the academic stagnation caused by Islam ended the Ottoman Empire and all further expansion. Even the geometric art is due to an immoral dictate that humans shouldn't be drawn. This is an episode of the outcome of darkness imposed by religion, where humans struggle to demonstrate wealth and power.
Hm, but people have alway been religious in those era. Look at the greeks and the romans. Both religious. Both produced philosophy, engineering, medical science, math, astronomy... . The Victorians where great engeneers and scientists but also very pias. Maby it is how you profess your religion and how you deal with people of other confessions that determine how a civilisation evolves. Blaming all evil or all greatness on religion is just not correct.
@@themanformerlycalled and yet the greatest philosophers realised millenia ago that the persuit of truth of a cause must first assume no god or gods. Xenophanes of Colophon is a great example.
It's only after we do away with the "I don't know therefore god did it" that understanding could really progress.
And the story is repeated where the more theistic the period of time, the more unscientific and regressive the development of the society.
Imagine the developmental leaps victorian England could have made of great scientists were not thestic. The dogma of religion held back Darwin from publishing for decades. And that's just one example amoungst thousands.
Religion is yet to demonstrate that it is a force for good (let alone progress) in this world and that's shocking given how old religion is and how many people simply assume religion is good.
@@PhilipLeitch it is true that thinking improves when religious dogma does not influences the process. It is indeed shocking to see how in some parts of the world people fall back to religious dogma to understand the world. For example North America. But science has only not evolved because of the banning of religion. The access to knowledge and education of the people has contributed to progress world wide.
@@themanformerlycalled agreed. Only when religion and religious ideas aren't banned by religion can knowledge progress.
I'd rather have questions I can't answer than answers I can't question.
@@PhilipLeitch not all religions banned ideas. It's only Christianity which did. That's why countless ancient knowledge was preserved by Muslims and were not lost.
It's why 0 is a number
All of these technologies came from the Greeks.They travel through Byzantia and where lost to the rest of Europe due to the growth of Roman occupation.
Greece ain't European Greece was always part of Asia, Turkey as well.
No,Ancient Greece,a totally different period.Greece where the most advanced at the time and ruled much of the Mediterranean,there temples show this.I don't think Greece today consider themselves part of Asia or are you referring to the Middle East,Asia is Asia with sea boards of the Indian Ocean and the Pacific.
@Gary Allen We where talking about Greece,not what language was used in Turkey.
@@firouzagamieldien5997 Greece is in Europe. How is it not European?
So clever ,
If Gabriel can bring Mohammad to see God, then God can be Jesus. How do YOU reconcile God Almighty to wretched man?
Yes, they left treasures too...of course it's beautiful
History is not all exact science. It will always have elements of the culture and philosophy of those telling the tale. You cannot take the western views out of the stories by the western historians. The same with their eastern counterparts. We are all products of our upbringing. How will we look at our past in the future? No one knows. No point being offended by the perspective the narrative of this documentary.
Bidadari are angles of heaven. Everyone who went to heaven will remain virgin for eternity. Everyone will remain youthful for eternity, no pain, sick , we don't have to go to the toilet either. Women who went to heaven fragrance 2x stronger than angles of heaven
Of course, the Muslims took over the eastern Roman Empire and the Persian Empire so there were a lot of inventions to be found. not really anything to do with religion.
"Islamic inventions" ... 🙄
Sour grapes
..very Byzantine..
As usual if you were rich heaven was on earth
There is no dark side of the moon , matter if fact, it's all dark ✌
Love how unpretentious the presenter is. He would have roasted in those temperatures filming with a jacket on...and a black one at that.
The Vesigofs Were the True Christians !
who were they
Beautiful religious propaganda
David Wood for correct info on Islam, as well as Apostate prophet. All you need to know about Islam and it's "prophet":
Sahih al-Bukhari 5134
Narrated `Aisha:
that the Prophet (ﷺ) married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that `Aisha remained with the Prophet (ﷺ) for nine years (i.e. till his death).
@Dani Al if that were true you wouldn't be here smack talking the guy, now would you...I've never known anyone that continuously beats down an opponent when that enemy is nullified. Such a person would be a fool.
@@josephtracey4411 I have the same volume set of Sahih al Bukhari and its legit too. im pretty sure its rated hasan or sahih on that hadith.
All you need to know about Christianity. See? They all have crazy shit.
Lot and His Daughters
Come, let us get our father drunk with wine so we can sleep with him and preserve his line.”So that night they got their father drunk with wine, and the firstborn went in and slept with her father; he was not aware when she lay down or when she got up
Oh yeah, Adam and Eve had three sons yet those sons had children. There was only one woman...oh and Mary was 12 when she had Jesus so what's that biblical saying? Cast not the first stone?
@@endlessnameless6628 all religions are screwed up, but none are as purposely vile as Islam is...
In many ways they were very advanced. I wouldn't call all their busy designs at though. It looks more like someone drank every paint color them puked it in their walls.
Originally they payed towards Petra. Their goofy crap is so made up they can't even get the direction right much less their God. It all cracks me up.
No wonder they loved Spain
Spain was never European it was always part of Africa they named that entire area Cartige.
paganism
I love paganism :)
@@jo3_the_artbot791 Glad it was kicked out
@@alangervasis kicked out? You mean almost completely decimated by violent colonizers? Disgusting stuff
As you say hope for a suffering people
The dome of the rock isn't all that.
KJV Bible Daniel 1:3,4
Dark Ages = christianity
Dark Ages= Viking Paganism and Islamic looters who pillaged christendom.
Dark Ages= Viking and Germanic Paganism and Islamic raiders and colonisers who pillaged christendom to bolster their own wealth.
@@alangervasis You should study History instead of posting nonsense. I am sorry the reality of what happened doesn't fit your Q-Annon vision of the World.
At least the Catholics know how to use gold in art. The Muslim art looks like someone ate all the colors of paint there was then puked it out on the walls.
That is your cultural superiority showing. To Muslims this is beautiful. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
we arabs are the best.
The rock crystal..
ONLY JESUS CHRIST IS THE BRIDGE !
GOD JESUS CHRIST DOES NOTHING IN secret !
The dark ages basically just is bout the times in Europe, other places were flourishing
yeah like sub saharan african and american tribes who didn't have a proper writing system invented the time machine. So much "fLouRisHiNg".
Astrolabes date back to 220 BC
Islam was not founded until 610 AD.
Perhaps doing actual research before making a video with false claims and incorrect facts would be prudent.