Levelling the garage floor using tile backerboards
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- Опубликовано: 10 фев 2024
- In this video we finally tackle the uneven garage floor. We start by adding a liquid DPM and then use a combination of self leveller and different thickness tile backer boards, the boards will also add some thermal value.
All the products we used apart from the primer for non porous surfaces, because I'd forgot to order that from them, were from Pro Tiler Tools so the link is below where you will find everything for your tiling needs.
www.protilertools.co.uk/
www.tilechoice.co.uk/1kg-prim...
Who’d have thought levelling floors could be so fascinating
Hope I catch you before the kitchen goes in, did a job like this a couple of years back, insulation board and leveller over the top, looked fantastic. Fitted the kitchen with a 3 metre island and everybody was happy, however got a call from client couple of weeks later to say a number of doors were catching, when I returned I’d swear someone had removed and refitted the kitchen soooo badly.
Turns out that the small foot print of the cabinet legs had started to break through the leveller squashing the insulation foam. Highly recommend you lay plywood strips under the cabinet legs to give a bigger foot print, remember all that downward weight once the customer loads the units and you’ve installed appliances, good luck
Brilliant thanks for showing this I didn't have a clue how to get over that one without screeding.
Excellent work, as usual. 👌👍🏻
Love all your work
Great job lads. Well done.
Great result, on a real uneven floor.
Look forward to next Sundays video!
What a pig of a job to get that floor sorted! Well done 👏🏼
Great workmanship and brilliant products. Them jackoboards are used in most new floors these days. Great at insulating and stopping damp.
Well done Pro Tiler Tools. Great company...lot of my tiling and self levelling tools came from them!!
My tiler uses them a lot but it’s my first time and I was very impressed so will definitely use on any future projects
Brilliant ! Thank you Regards Mike
Brilliant lads
Talking of adding thermal value to the floor with these backer boards - Building inspector specified 75mm Celotex under the screed in my new WC - hasn't made a blind bit of difference as the floor in WC is still as cold under foot as the conservatory next to it with no thermal insulation under the existing screed.
great job ... seems the client changed their mind about the kitchen diner combo thingy .....
Great work, going to be tackling something similar myself soon, due to the clown builder giving me 3 different level floors.
like / very informative
Wouldn't it have been easier and cheaper to dig out the old floor and replace?
I’m going to say no on both counts. It’s a large space and would cost a lot of money to replace an area of that size and be labour intensive. Thanks for the comment 👍🏻
Looking great! I have to ask” did you really need a corridor? Would have been a much wider kitchen.
Is the garage door staying or is that being bricked up?
Customer choice as they needed good access to the rear garden and didn’t want to carry garden waste etc through the kitchen The space is more than big enough without it.
Garage door will be changed but not currently in budget. 👍🏻
Great video, Just had a concrete hard standing built. There is a bit of a dip in it and water collects in that area. What can i use to level up the dip. Thanks
If you go into pro tiler tools website they do a self leveller for external use. If you call them their customer service is great for advice
www.protilertools.co.uk/product/tilemaster-external-leveller-fast-set-self-levelling-compound-25kg?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiA_aGuBhACEiwAly57MZjdcEufnY8c2wurXu2lCGy3kNwuvihz1p4M_lsxgP9b7p_HEnJbaRoCAbIQAvD_BwE
As a DIYer I still find it hard to come to terms with pouring self leveller at say 5mm max on top of foam boards. Same as pouring concrete on to 100mm of expanded polystyrene.
I’m with you on that one mate but it’s a tried and tested method so we all have to move with the times 😁👍🏻
In the late 1980s, Bryants built an estate of houses in Solihull with 25mm of expanded polystyrene on top of screeded block and beam floors to effect insulation. Plywood was then laid on the polystyrene and finally floor tiles. I poked fun at the site manager and he told me where to get off. It was squeaking before it was finished and I think most of the floors have been ripped up. Those floors "moved with the times" and into the skip 30 years on ... just sayin' .... I know you are following the Regs, but the Regs are written by lobbyists and the poor punter picks up the tab.@@mrabuilders6723
Jesus I wish you lived in Kent
Just want to ask how come you didnt just dig out and insulate then con pour to regs, was there a big difference in cost? Just thinking of even insulation 🤔
In comparison to what we did there’s a massive difference. In an ideal world we would have dug it up and as you say built back up to regs but it wasn’t possible for the customer time constraints or their budget.
Just in time for questions:
We have an older house, concrete slab, bitumen type stuff with parquet flooring stuck to it
Need to raise the level by around 21mm so what would you advise?
Need to do approx 6m x 8.5m for the original ground floor
Thanks
If you’re only doing 20mm and after doing this method I would recommend putting a 20mm tile backer board down which will give you some thermal value as well. Are you taking the parquet up? The bitumen will be giving you a form of DPC so I’d leave it untouched if you can.
18mm flooring grade ply, 3mm flexible leveller over the top.
Be real careful with the bitumen...it may have asbestos in it.
@@mrabuilders6723 thanks for the reply
the parquet is that little 4*1 inch style and it's down pretty solid other than some bits on the edge
It would take a huge amount of effort to lift it all up because it's all under the stairs and everything
I'll investigate the cost of the backer board from the company you've used 👍
As @woody has said it’s best left alone anyway so you can also screw those backer boards down to the parquet using special washers and self level to get flat surface for tiling etc 👍🏻
cracking job
I thought it was brilliant that the customer saw the benefit of your ptt advertising….i think you mentioned them a little bit to much…I thought I was on QVC 😂😂….none the less keep up the good work
Unfortunately Stevie to get the benefit from these companies you have to do it to make it worth their while working with us.. Hope it didn’t spoil your viewing too much. Thanks for watching 👍🏻
Did you consider an asphalt poured floor?
We didn’t mate no. I did my homework on this one as it was out of my comfort zone. I spoke to a fair few subject matter experts and this is what led me to using the liquid DPM and then a combination of self leveller and those tile backer boards we used. 👍🏻
Great video again, another packet of chocolate hobnobs devoured. How does the cost of this method compare to pouring a new concrete slab? 👍🏾
Hi Macky and thank you for commenting. The comparison is several thousand apart I reckon. We would have had to dig up front to back and down to around 400mm to allow for hardcore, sand blinding, concrete and insulation to comply with building regs. Not something that was an option at this stage of the building project for the customer unfortunately. 👍🏻
self leveling is good but can be a pain in an arse sometimes
How did you get a skip to take plasterboard waste ?? !! The job's coming on well now Rich. I prefere cherry lip balm though lol
This company accepts mixed waste 🤷🤷
Cherry lip balm? I’ll try that one 😂👍🏻
You lads clearly try very hard and good on you for trying out new products but you should really take the time to read the manufacture's installation guide. Jackoboards should be mechanically fixed to the floor on top of the adhesive that you use. You also need to tape and skim all joints and the mechanical fixings. Had you done that, none of the leveller would have leaked under the boards. You should also have a foam expansion strip around the perimeter of the room which, other than providing a thermal break and expansion gap, etc, also stops the leveller from leaking out.
Could you lay carpet on jackoboard ?
I don’t know much about it but I know that if you contacted Pro Tiler Tools they’ll have the answers to any of your questions. 👍🏻
Wouldn’t it of been easier to use deep self level (one you add sand to) to fill the deep bits and then skims the top with 3mm
You would have seen we did fill the deepest part in first with deep fill self leveller but the boards add thermal value as well which is why we did it this way 👍🏻
Good point about the thermal value 👍
In Hawaii, a natural river, just a mere trickle, becomes a wide gulch, making a natural channel where people and boogie board for several meters gown into the ocean. Surfer love using it between waves and is generally safer for children. This use to happen sporadically, but surfers, who were there very early in the morning, realized if the used there boards and dredged certain places, The river of water was guaranteed! This blockadge had to occur, otherwise, it would otherwise get to wide and no torrent would occur. Of course, no one is claiming they’re doing it!🤭
question dont the boards need to be staggered
I’m going to say you’ve clearly watched the video which we are very grateful for and presumed we haven’t staggered them.
Every opportunity should be taken to stagger them but using them as we did sometimes they had to go where they could go. Thanks for the comment 👍🏻
@@mrabuilders6723 my comment wasnt a dig so if it came across that wasnt my intention just like to know so in future if i need to do the same it will be ok
I’m sure you didn’t mean it as a dig mate sorry if I then came across as being funny in my reply. This is why comments aren’t my favourite way to respond to people. I wish it was possible to have a section after every video where we did a Q & A session by doing a live feed or something. Sometimes reading and then responding to comments doesn’t always come across right. We can all interpret a paragraph differently. We as a channel love the interaction with our viewers and it’s one of the main reasons I like it so much. Hope you have a good week and thanks for being with us.
Rich 👍🏻
@@mrabuilders6723 same to you bro and keep up good work
That rake's called a lute I think.
Thank you for that I’d forgotten to ask the tiler.
You do not put LVT on foam boards and latex it has to be a porcelain or ceramic tile to take the compression of load
Thanks for that the customer is still undecided on a floor covering yet.
I would definitely of broke the floor up, insulate/concrete and screed. 💸
that looks like an awful lot of work to get the floor level, would it not have been easier to screed the whole garage floor before putting stud walls up - you would also have had the opportunity to put a proper dpm down instead of relying on a water based liquid dpm?
Where is Adam, is he lock up
We are both working hard at different locations but if your a follower of ours you would have seen the video about us parting ways with our last job aired on Christmas Day so Myself and Matt have been at this job since November and Adam and Mick have been paving the way for our next project which you will all see in a couple of weeks. We decided to finish this project on the channel as a complete series first before starting you all on a new one. 👍🏻
Haven't a clue what your doing!
Touching your lips lips like that is signal you want a kiss! 😘Did your camera man kiss you? 🫣