@@stxrmking There's no comparison. The Japanese crowd and the American crowd are completely different. It's not very common for them to boo someone like this.
Jay White is over as a Heel. He's New Japan's Top Heel. He should be the guy to take the Dual Championships if not Ibushi. Jay White should be compensated for the work he has put in and barely getting a rematch for the title he lost headlining Madison Square Garden. Breathe with the Switchblade.
@@TriplomatX I think Ibushi is more than likely going to end up the Double Champ if not Naito. Jay's been great but New Japan literally was trying to get a fulltime signed Ibushi for a pretty long time and finally got it. It seems like them keeping the belt on Okada soo much stems from not being able to get Ibushi to commit fulltime so since he is now they can possibly experiment with Ibushi being champ. Naito doesn't have much time left also so him becoming double champ also would make sense seeing as this could be the conclusion in Naito's journey to finally getting that definitive victory over a dominant Okada.
Love the amount of heat Jay White gets from the Japanese crowds. What a great heel. Naito being serious also makes this double champion storyline even better.
@@Slagomancer yeah, it seems like Okada forgot the time when the Intercontinental belt was literally above the Heavyweight belt during Nakamura's reigns. Lol, and he was the one who mentioned that fan vote. Someone needs to remind him that the fan vote also stole his Wrestlekingdom main event from him
@@RainSennin_ismyAlt Nakamura was in Chaos and at one time was the IGWP Heavyweight Champion, so for him to ham it up while defending the Intercontinental Championship probably was fine for Okada, seeing as Nakamura wasn't going after his title.
Jay White really is hitting stride as a heel. He's nowgetting to the point where words start flowing naturally and he really starts living and breathing as a bad guy, he's starting to carve out his own unique personality
@° ͜ʖ° well. maybe they dont know New Japan triple crown system, you can check it on wikipedia and some website for this matter, Never Openweight championship has been with company longer than IWGP US edit : if New Japan triple crown system *did* include IWGP US then Omega would be the first man
@@haruka7817 Well I mean if they were to add the US championship to the system it would probably be considered an acceptable alternate to either the Intercontinental or the Never Openweight championships. It's just confusing as they created the title to appeal to the North American fanbase and the first guy to have it was Omega seeing as they probably didn't want him taking the Heavyweight Championship off of Okada just yet.
It kinda makes sense why Goto lost to White. This was probably because Naito could be set to face him for the IC title match as redemption and reaching his goal to become dual champion. We all had to see Naito hitting rock bottom to see his sheer willpower of climbing back on top as well as seeing a different version of him where he is no longer tranquilo. A journey where we witnessed him and Taichi putting on a great storyline again.
Okada remind Naito what happen last time the fans voted, back then Naito was pissed that he didn't main evented at WK 8, this could be Naito's last chance to main event at WK 14 as the new IWGP Intercontinental Heavyweight Champion and face Kazuchika Okada or Kota Ibushi
I think New Japan shits on Naito. I mean, Naito matches at Wrestle Kingdom with Okada haven't met with high standards (Nakamura/Tanahashji then Jericho/Omega taking their main event shine). Naito loses to Jay White.
Night 2 should be ibushi v naito and naito should win double champ. I think on night 2 jushin thunder liger will call out okada and okada will be the one to retire liger
This has been a great year for New Japan, the transitional period they are going through in establishing a new top tier has been flawless really and the match quality may have even notched up a few levels, which is crazy.
8:30 Okada is epic! He just doesn't give a damn about becoming Dual Champion! 10:38 i have to give New Japan props for the continuity... They're doing a Fan vote again... Okada and Naito are involved this time too.
Why should Okada care about the Intercontinental title? That would be like the Washington Nationals saying "Now we want to become the champions of Triple A Ball!"
I love the irony of the fan vote. In 2013 Naito had all the momentum but zero support. He won G1 beating Tana in the final defended his contract and was the reigning Never title. But the fans didn't care about it and no one wanted him to win. Now it's the opposite. He has no momentum but all the support. He has no proper claim to be involved as he lost to Jay and didn't win G1 but this time all the fans are behind him and want him to win. The fan vote that robbed him of his dream is finally what may allow him to achieve it.
@@anoopsingh4825 I don't see any evidence that Naito now has "the support". Most Japanese fans are saying "Naito lost the G1, and he lost the IC title. Why should he have a chance to become a double champion just because he beat Taichi?" If anything, assuming it's on the up and up, Naito is likely to lose the fan vote yet again.
@@joepod He's consistently been the most over guy in the company since 2016 and if you look into the crowd still sells the most merch. How is it clear he doesn't have the support of fans. Did you not hear them cheer him as he came out. Commentary even acknowledged he historical has been booed in Osaka not cheered. The whole point is its supposed to be the opposite of his first try at becoming champion at WK. Back at Power Struggle 2013 in Osaka Naito came out at the end to challenge okada and the crowd gave zero shits about it. Here it's clearly different. Idk where your getting that the fans not want him to win. Maybe the fans don't want one guy to hold both belts at one time cause they like having the belts separate but to say that they don't want him in the main event picture at WK just isn't right.
@@joepod i agree! I want Okada to win in the end and just remain the IWGP Heavyweight championship... And I hope he gets to beat Naito on Night 2... Naito (possibly the intercontinental champion at the time) gets his main event match... Okada retains the Heavyweight Title... And Naito can do a redemption match against Okada in the future...
Naito must embrace the things he hated in his past(Fan Vote and IC Title) in order to achieve his greatest success. Main eventing the Tokyo Dome, defeat Okada, and become dual champion!
Jay White is the hest heel in the business right now. He doesn't even need to talk to get heat. So much for BC being dead. Jay has carried the Bullet Club back to prominence.
Most people just said that BC died because Omega left the group while completely forgetting that every time the club "died" a new leader manage to get them to New height
@@bernhardalan3613 Still, the group pretty much needs a kick up the ass. Yujiro can only be interesting right now because of WHO he brings, Chase is a bang average worker, Bad Luck Fale is way past it, Hikuleo is struggling to grow, GoD are going to retire in the next 3/4 years and they still haven't built an heavyweight tag team.
@@themadcat5288 they are certainly isn't as hot, but Kenta has been a revelation to the BC so far. Then theres the Taiji and El Phantasmo. They definitely need a new heavyweight or two for sure though
*The mother of all ARCs of storytelling has heated up for WK14, January 4th & 5th, 2020. These 4 men have parallel paths between each other. History will be made.* *P.S: Thanks for the references, continuities and possibilities for us to enjoy.*
Legendary moment... In WWE this would be Austin, Rock, HHH and HBK In TNA this would be AJ, Joe, Daniels and Angle In ROH this would be Danielson, Joe, AJ and Nigel
Not to change the subject but we also have to talk about the elephant in the room that being Shibata. Remember during match Goto almost had the match won I believe it was Gedo who pulled the ref Shibata came in to take out Gedo but then Kenta attacked Shibata again.
I think Shibata vs Kenta would be a good idea. I mean it makes sense seeing as Shibata was the one who brought Kenta in only to have Kenta turn on him and join Bullet Club. This could either be the return for Shibata or the retirement match that he should've got after getting injured.
@@lukebrennan842 That's a more likely scenario, but then again I don't see them booking Shibata as a person who allows other people to deal with his problems. Also, Shibata hasn't been sitting around on the sidelines and has been an active participant in brawls involving Kenta as of late, so it's possible they've been making him go through the process of getting cleared for at the least one more show and WrestleKingdom would be the best place for euther a curtain call or his return.
Great promos here!! 2020 will be Greatness for NJPW and Japan as a whole: 2020 Olympics in Japan with all the merch!!! US IWGP title is a must have title as well!!
Naito is almost bigger than the belt tho. He has LIJ and if you ever go to a New Japan show you see more LIJ merch than anything . But Naito is my favorite ever and I agree he needs one last reign .
The beard like tripled Jay’d credibility. He was always an amazing performer but the initial incarnation of the switchblade gimmick was goofy. Now he looks like a badass.
Americans should understand: I believe this is filmed in Osaka. When Okada says "Nandeyanen!" this is a common comedian's punchline meaning "What the hell are you talking about?" that evolved from Osaka and therefore has a special place in front of an Osaka audience. Like saying "Wicked" in Boston. It's comparable to wearing the local sports jersey in whatever town you're in.
Naito has every reason to win this match .. all his past failures lead to him winning the biggest match in the biggest night .. the stories in japan are the best always
Okada threw salt in the wound of Naito there bring up the vote (-_^ ) I agree with the Heavyweight champ but I'd like to see the Rainmaker wear the Intercontinental belt too.
"...And it's getting a little lame, isn't it?" said Ibushi to Okada Yes, Kota, it is. Geez and Christmas! Let the destrangulation of the IWGP Heavyweight Title begin.
Tetsuya Naito vs Kazuchika Okada in Wrestle Kingdom 14, Naito as champion of the intercontinental title, the title that took him out of the main event 5 years ago. Finally he will have that fight against Okada to be the face of the company, Okada vs Naito, the redemption of Naito ....
I think Japan is pretty lukewarm for a dual champ. Its more of a west thing isnt it? Okada bringing up the vote thing from the past might be a foreshadowing to Naito's victory at WK next year. Maybe thats why Okada became champ again this year so soon to build him up again after his loss to Omega and finally give Naito that much needed victory over Okada at the next WK.
Jesus christ, Naito/White I-C title, Okada/Ibushi world title, Ligers retirement match, Shibata vs. Kenta?, Tanahashi vs Jericho, and the first ever dual championship main event. This could be the greatest 2 wrestling events of all time.
Love How Ibushi Mention Nakamura Being A Five Time IWGP IC Champion Yet Again If Naito Wins At WK14 He'll Be A Five Time Champion Himself Great Long-Term Storytelling
@@shiithatwascyanide He wasn't. Okada and Tanahashi have been the best wrestlers in the company for few years. It's just western fans love Omega cause he is white. He has been completely exposed.
Its Ibushi's time. Its literally been years in the making that he get to the pinnacle of NJPW and make history, plus everyone is behind Ibushi and he is super over with the crowd.
My prediction for wrestle kingdom 1st night Okada beat Ibushi Naito beat Jay 2nd night Naito beat Okada Imo Naito is destined to defeat okada in the grandest stage. The last time we saw them fighting each other was 2 years ago. Meanwhile we already see Jay vs okada, okada vs ibushi, Naito vs ibushi, and Jay vs Naito earlier this year. Obviously njpw is saving the match for Okada and Naito. Storyline wise this will be epic Okada also intentionally mentioning the poll incident to Naito. He is targeting Naito from the beginning. Naito also need to get revenge from his lost to Jay. This is the best time for him. Njpw also won't let ibushi to loose the title after a day he win the title. This will hurt his image as champion. The last time ibushi fighting okada he got away with the win. Its normal for Okada to make the score even by defeating him in wk.
Wow, I have never seen anyone booed this much in NJPW in ages. Jay White is an awesome heel
Taylar Tupou lmaooo no lie tbh last time i seen this level was Ciampa after his heel turn 😭😭
@@stxrmking There's no comparison. The Japanese crowd and the American crowd are completely different. It's not very common for them to boo someone like this.
Prince Devitt was the last one to get extreme heat.
Jay White is over as a Heel. He's New Japan's Top Heel. He should be the guy to take the Dual Championships if not Ibushi. Jay White should be compensated for the work he has put in and barely getting a rematch for the title he lost headlining Madison Square Garden. Breathe with the Switchblade.
@@TriplomatX I think Ibushi is more than likely going to end up the Double Champ if not Naito. Jay's been great but New Japan literally was trying to get a fulltime signed Ibushi for a pretty long time and finally got it. It seems like them keeping the belt on Okada soo much stems from not being able to get Ibushi to commit fulltime so since he is now they can possibly experiment with Ibushi being champ. Naito doesn't have much time left also so him becoming double champ also would make sense seeing as this could be the conclusion in Naito's journey to finally getting that definitive victory over a dominant Okada.
Love the amount of heat Jay White gets from the Japanese crowds. What a great heel. Naito being serious also makes this double champion storyline even better.
"It's not about the belt, it's about who holds it!"
Well, Jay is not wrong.
Weirdly babyface sentiment from a Heel, but then again Jay is on another level in Kayfabe and Reality.
@@Slagomancer yeah, it seems like Okada forgot the time when the Intercontinental belt was literally above the Heavyweight belt during Nakamura's reigns. Lol, and he was the one who mentioned that fan vote. Someone needs to remind him that the fan vote also stole his Wrestlekingdom main event from him
@@RainSennin_ismyAlt Nakamura was in Chaos and at one time was the IGWP Heavyweight Champion, so for him to ham it up while defending the Intercontinental Championship probably was fine for Okada, seeing as Nakamura wasn't going after his title.
@@TheInspectorDilfordDa3rd Nakamura was IWGP heavyweight champion before Chaos was a thing.
@@colonelkenpachi5009 I know. Which is why Okada would be happy with Nakamura having the IC championship. He wasn't going after his.
Everyone loves to bring up MJF, but Jay really is the best heel in pro wrestling right now
Exactly! MJF seems like a lot like the Miz to me. Nothing original there.
Agreed. Jay is lowkey the best heel in the world right now
People like MJF so him as heel fails
People hate Jay, he is successful heel.
@@AlifyaNursukmaForicha sami calihan (New Impact champion) best heel in the business, then Jay white.
@@jaystevens9703 i don't watch impact a lot recently. I guess i'll watch it again then
y' know, it is getting serious when Naito didnt smile and mess around
"Fan vote" is basically his trigger word. I'm surprised Okada's jab didn't result in Naito trying to attack him.
The camera work towards the end where it has Naito and Okada in the same shot is beautiful foreshadowing.
@@TokyoAfterlife he's already won it before, somehow i don't think he's getting a third shot
@@TokyoAfterlife he'll have his time
ジェイすごいなー。こんなブーイング集めらるヒールなかなかいないぞ
オカダやっぱカッコいいし、なんで強いのかわかるわ
Jay White is so awesome. From young lion to top heel. I've never heard a Japanese crowd this heated! Lovely!
They been heated. Naito himself did that in Osaka
Even if hes speaking a different languese I still laughed when Okada Said "What the Hell"
Grabbed everyone's attention...
He's a pro at cutting promos now.
The biggest heel in wrestling is New Japan giving warm beers to their champions.
Well supposedly drinking cold beer is a western thing..?.. idk if that's true or not but I've heard in some countries, drinking warm beer is the norm.
"He got in the best shape of his life well I dismissed that motherfucker because I'm in a better shape, baby" popped out of my chair for that one
Jay White really is hitting stride as a heel. He's nowgetting to the point where words start flowing naturally and he really starts living and breathing as a bad guy, he's starting to carve out his own unique personality
Switchblade's such a heel! I really hope he becomes the Crown Champ.
@° ͜ʖ° nope, New Japan triple crown include Never Openweight not IWGP US, the only one who did win triple crown is Naito
@° ͜ʖ° well. maybe they dont know New Japan triple crown system, you can check it on wikipedia and some website for this matter, Never Openweight championship has been with company longer than IWGP US
edit : if New Japan triple crown system *did* include IWGP US then Omega would be the first man
@@haruka7817 Well I mean if they were to add the US championship to the system it would probably be considered an acceptable alternate to either the Intercontinental or the Never Openweight championships. It's just confusing as they created the title to appeal to the North American fanbase and the first guy to have it was Omega seeing as they probably didn't want him taking the Heavyweight Championship off of Okada just yet.
@@haruka7817 nah,Naito would still be first
It kinda makes sense why Goto lost to White. This was probably because Naito could be set to face him for the IC title match as redemption and reaching his goal to become dual champion. We all had to see Naito hitting rock bottom to see his sheer willpower of climbing back on top as well as seeing a different version of him where he is no longer tranquilo. A journey where we witnessed him and Taichi putting on a great storyline again.
ジェイぶれないな
ほとんどのヒールはすぐにベビーになるのに
すげぇ
オカダマイクめっちゃ上手なったな
オカダマイク上手くなったわ、説得力がある
Okada remind Naito what happen last time the fans voted, back then Naito was pissed that he didn't main evented at WK 8, this could be Naito's last chance to main event at WK 14 as the new IWGP Intercontinental Heavyweight Champion and face Kazuchika Okada or Kota Ibushi
I think New Japan shits on Naito. I mean, Naito matches at Wrestle Kingdom with Okada haven't met with high standards (Nakamura/Tanahashji then Jericho/Omega taking their main event shine). Naito loses to Jay White.
Night 2 should be ibushi v naito and naito should win double champ. I think on night 2 jushin thunder liger will call out okada and okada will be the one to retire liger
@KOTheWorld Naito lookes like he wanted to punch the hell outta Okada when he said that
@@TriplomatX Okada vs Naito at WK12 was better than Omega vs Y2J,can't compare match quality and the historyline
@@DiegoBaez-v3z I agree. Okada vs Naito had a way better story.
That Jay promo was fantastic and he's right, Okada fears him. Lol!
Nope.
FYVGGGFVYGVYFFHHHHBGGGYBHGGGG
This has been a great year for New Japan, the transitional period they are going through in establishing a new top tier has been flawless really and the match quality may have even notched up a few levels, which is crazy.
8:30 Okada is epic! He just doesn't give a damn about becoming Dual Champion!
10:38 i have to give New Japan props for the continuity...
They're doing a Fan vote again...
Okada and Naito are involved this time too.
Why should Okada care about the Intercontinental title? That would be like the Washington Nationals saying "Now we want to become the champions of Triple A Ball!"
I love the irony of the fan vote. In 2013 Naito had all the momentum but zero support. He won G1 beating Tana in the final defended his contract and was the reigning Never title. But the fans didn't care about it and no one wanted him to win. Now it's the opposite. He has no momentum but all the support. He has no proper claim to be involved as he lost to Jay and didn't win G1 but this time all the fans are behind him and want him to win. The fan vote that robbed him of his dream is finally what may allow him to achieve it.
@@anoopsingh4825 I don't see any evidence that Naito now has "the support". Most Japanese fans are saying "Naito lost the G1, and he lost the IC title. Why should he have a chance to become a double champion just because he beat Taichi?" If anything, assuming it's on the up and up, Naito is likely to lose the fan vote yet again.
@@joepod He's consistently been the most over guy in the company since 2016 and if you look into the crowd still sells the most merch. How is it clear he doesn't have the support of fans. Did you not hear them cheer him as he came out. Commentary even acknowledged he historical has been booed in Osaka not cheered. The whole point is its supposed to be the opposite of his first try at becoming champion at WK. Back at Power Struggle 2013 in Osaka Naito came out at the end to challenge okada and the crowd gave zero shits about it. Here it's clearly different. Idk where your getting that the fans not want him to win. Maybe the fans don't want one guy to hold both belts at one time cause they like having the belts separate but to say that they don't want him in the main event picture at WK just isn't right.
@@joepod i agree!
I want Okada to win in the end and just remain the IWGP Heavyweight championship...
And I hope he gets to beat Naito on Night 2...
Naito (possibly the intercontinental champion at the time) gets his main event match...
Okada retains the Heavyweight Title...
And Naito can do a redemption match against Okada in the future...
Naito must embrace the things he hated in his past(Fan Vote and IC Title) in order to achieve his greatest success. Main eventing the Tokyo Dome, defeat Okada, and become dual champion!
Again?
Can’t wait Wrestle Kingdom!!!!!
That shot to close the show with Naito looking back as the confetti went off. CHILLS
外道さん、オカダといるときに比べてほんとに存在感うすくなったな〜
なんでマイクしないんだろうね。むしろジェイが英語しか話さなくて会場の人が理解できてないから、オカダの時よりもマイクをやる必要性があると思うんだけど。
glee fire ね。なんのためのマネージャーなんだろうね笑
あと急激に太ったと思います笑笑
たっきぃ 団体を背負うトップレスラーのマネージャーってことで太るわけにはいかなかったんじゃ無い?
十分喋れるしねジェイは
Jay White is the hest heel in the business right now. He doesn't even need to talk to get heat. So much for BC being dead. Jay has carried the Bullet Club back to prominence.
Most people just said that BC died because Omega left the group while completely forgetting that every time the club "died" a new leader manage to get them to New height
@@bernhardalan3613 Still, the group pretty much needs a kick up the ass. Yujiro can only be interesting right now because of WHO he brings, Chase is a bang average worker, Bad Luck Fale is way past it, Hikuleo is struggling to grow, GoD are going to retire in the next 3/4 years and they still haven't built an heavyweight tag team.
@@themadcat5288 they are certainly isn't as hot, but Kenta has been a revelation to the BC so far. Then theres the Taiji and El Phantasmo. They definitely need a new heavyweight or two for sure though
@@vta2265 now they got evil
新日本らしくないかも知れないけど正直入場曲流して入場して来た方が盛り上がると思う。にしても豪華な4人だ
ちょっと地味だからね(笑)
WWEみたいにね
それも新日本らしさかな
*The mother of all ARCs of storytelling has heated up for WK14, January 4th & 5th, 2020. These 4 men have parallel paths between each other. History will be made.*
*P.S: Thanks for the references, continuities and possibilities for us to enjoy.*
New Japan really does have the coolest looking titles.
Legendary moment...
In WWE this would be Austin, Rock, HHH and HBK
In TNA this would be AJ, Joe, Daniels and Angle
In ROH this would be Danielson, Joe, AJ and Nigel
Not to change the subject but we also have to talk about the elephant in the room that being Shibata. Remember during match Goto almost had the match won I believe it was Gedo who pulled the ref Shibata came in to take out Gedo but then Kenta attacked Shibata again.
I think Shibata vs Kenta would be a good idea. I mean it makes sense seeing as Shibata was the one who brought Kenta in only to have Kenta turn on him and join Bullet Club. This could either be the return for Shibata or the retirement match that he should've got after getting injured.
Shibata vs KENTA is going to happen at WK
@@shermandudley5548 It needs to
Rob Clarke don’t get your hopes up. It’s way more likely Goto vs Kenta with Shibata in Goto’s corner
@@lukebrennan842 That's a more likely scenario, but then again I don't see them booking Shibata as a person who allows other people to deal with his problems. Also, Shibata hasn't been sitting around on the sidelines and has been an active participant in brawls involving Kenta as of late, so it's possible they've been making him go through the process of getting cleared for at the least one more show and WrestleKingdom would be the best place for euther a curtain call or his return.
オカダはマイク上手くなったし
まだまだ成長しそう
これからも金の雨降らしてくれ!!
この4人での4wayマッチ見たいな〜。
オカダの言ってることこそが本来ヘビー級チャンピオンが言うべきことなんだよなぁ。その自分のベルトに誇りを持っているって言うね
Great promos here!! 2020 will be Greatness for NJPW and Japan as a whole: 2020 Olympics in Japan with all the merch!!! US IWGP title is a must have title as well!!
zolo120mil If only you knew😂
余裕ある常時ニヤニヤの内藤もかっこいいけど
今の覚悟決めた内藤もかっこいいなあ
ただ二冠戦は別にいいや笑
5:31からのジェイの「ひとり来てるよ!…ねぇ、ちょっと、来てるってば!」って感じの合図がちょっと可愛く見えた( ̄▽ ̄;)
10:39
内藤の心の傷をエグるな笑
オカダの傷でもあるはずなんだけどなぁw
@@sanzoku9609
オカダは何度もメインをやってるし
内藤とやった時だけセミ落ちだからじゃない?
@@重富武 でもiwgpヘビーなのに降格した事実はオカダの責任でもあるわけだからね。
this is the first time in a long time that Naito is not smiling or playing around or even avoiding doing backstage interviews
Naito for dual champ. He's running out of time. This is his moment!
Its Ibushi's time, Naito had his day. He pretty much finished his storyline by redeeming himself and winning the G1 the year he beat Kenny
@@2Good2BeTrue45 Naito hasnt had his day. You really believe Okada winning at wk was naito's moment. It's now or never for naito. It's his time.
Naito is almost bigger than the belt tho. He has LIJ and if you ever go to a New Japan show you see more LIJ merch than anything . But Naito is my favorite ever and I agree he needs one last reign .
オカダの「なんで?」から説得力の嵐
なんて?って言った時めっちゃ面白かった。
「なんでやねん!!」サイコー(笑)
The beard like tripled Jay’d credibility. He was always an amazing performer but the initial incarnation of the switchblade gimmick was goofy. Now he looks like a badass.
Now he's the true switchblade
I thought it was fake hair at first
Americans should understand: I believe this is filmed in Osaka. When Okada says "Nandeyanen!" this is a common comedian's punchline meaning "What the hell are you talking about?" that evolved from Osaka and therefore has a special place in front of an Osaka audience. Like saying "Wicked" in Boston. It's comparable to wearing the local sports jersey in whatever town you're in.
Naito has every reason to win this match .. all his past failures lead to him winning the biggest match in the biggest night .. the stories in japan are the best always
二冠戦やったところでそのあとどうなるの?w
IWGPヘビー級というベルトが新日本1な訳でしょ?
オカダの言ってることが正しいと思う
基本的には二冠戦は反対です
2日続けて王座戦なんて、どちらのベルトの価値も落ちるし、選手への負担も甚大です
ただ、シングルのタイトルが増え過ぎなので、統一したら2度と分けないという条件付きならば、統一してもいいのかなとも思います
ベルトの増設・タイトル増やしてるのはトップ選手の負担を減らす目的もあるみたいですよね。 ビッグマッチ興行が年々増えていますから、IWGPだけにすると王者の負担が増え必然ケガに繋がるリスクが増えると…。
ケンコバの番組で真壁とライガーが語ってましたけど、本当に新日本プロレスと言うか人気団体レスラーは休みないらしいですね…!
1週間興行無かったとしても実質2日しか休めないと言ってました。 何故なら次の興行に向けてトレーニングして身体を仕上げないといけない。 知ってる人からしたら当たり前の事かもしれませんが…過酷だなと思いました自分。
私は2冠自体反対だけど、2連戦で2冠を決めるのはさらに大反対。問題は、4人が横並びになっていること。ベルトを持ってる2人と持ってない2人が、同じ条件で2冠になれてしまう。言っちゃ悪いけど、内藤がタイチに勝った所でどこに挑戦表明の権利がある?そんな状態でオカダやジェイに並んで2冠に王手をかけているのはおかしい。2冠の価値があまりにも低い。
形としては、ただの「4人によるトーナメント」で、その優勝者が2冠。ベルトの価値を下げるようなことはしてほしくないな。
IWGPとICは同等じゃないから二冠になる意味がない。単なるIWGP王者となんの変わりがない。
IWGPとAEWの二冠戦なら面白いけど…
Ooooh, we don't want another fan vote. That really "helped" Naito's trajectory that time.
まじでLINEで投票してるやん
投票して即現在の投票数見えないと
いくらでも操作できちゃうね
まぁ二冠戦をやる流れにもっていくんだろうけどね
ここまで2冠2冠と3人が言ってるからオカダがやりたくない❗️と言ってもやらせるでしょうね…。
オカダが統一してインターコンチ封印すれば誰も文句は言わないと思うけど…それはありえないかな。
自分の予想として統一戦のカードは飯伏・内藤だと考えているので
No words from Naito?????
Now thats serious and.... The return of badass El Ingobernable Naito!!!!
Ingobernable? Wtf does that mean
Jasean Lyle it’s Spanish for ungovernable or uncontrollable. Naito was part of Los Ingobernables in CMLL and later brought the new gimmick to Japan..
俺はIWGPとインターコンチは別物
だから2冠は面白いとおもうけど反対
All Jay has to do is try to talk / shush the crowd and they boo the man. Clearly the best.
この4人を見てると、世代が変わったんだなぁってしみじみと思う。一つ前の世代だと、棚橋、中邑、AJ、柴田とかになってたんだろうなぁ。
柴田だけちょっと違くないか?
柴田が戻ってきた頃にはオカダいたんやし柴田よりは後藤とかかな
内藤も本来ならどっちかと言うと1つ前の世代組で良かったけど
後藤内藤飯伏柴田のどれかですよね
棚橋 中邑 オカダ AJでしょ
jay white is doing great as a heel and in my opinion he saved his career turning heel
オカダ頼んだ。
The NJPW heavyweight title is looking 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
二冠もいいけど……自分的にはIWGPとインターコンチの一つ一つを大事にしてほしいんだよね……
ぼくも同感です IWGPヘビーが1番上の立場でもインターコンチはまた違う良さが見えますよね そしたらneverの価値はどうなるんだよってことにもなりますし neverを獲得してきた選手たちはゴツゴツした試合が得意で違う持ち味がでてたのでインターコンチとneverとIWGPヘビーのタイトルマッチカードが毎回あることが面白いとぼくは思います
Kazuchika Okada aka TrollKada.
The way he brought up the fan poll to Naito's face lmaoooo
If njpw don't run with naito as champ now, they never will
2冠には反対派 だけど
(1)2冠戦 (2)なし
(2)で2冠に代わるカードがわからないからなんとも言えないんだよなぁ
おれも反対
でも、なるほど
1.5が決まってる時点で二冠戦も・・
となると、1.4は飯伏か
オカダは二冠否定的だから
It’s Naito’s time to get his big moment in Tokyo Dome.
オカダさん内藤とやりたそうww
Jay White still a savage heel of all time I like his charisma made him real macho with the crowd negative chemistry
"I am the last rock n rolla and that is REAL" Fucking great line
You can tell that Naito was very upset :( he will get it next year!
1:02大吉さんかと思った
大吉さんプロレス好きだから大吉さんなんじゃない?
Okada threw salt in the wound of Naito there bring up the vote (-_^ ) I agree with the Heavyweight champ but I'd like to see the Rainmaker wear the Intercontinental belt too.
オカダベルト似合うな〜
ジェイもそうやけど
2冠はなしかな
それはそれで面白いけど
オカダが言うことは正しいよ!
Jay White saying 'Okada, this is your old friend from Chaos. This is Jay White. PLEASE!!' in a sarcastic accent is too hilarious
As much as I wanna see my man Ibushi win both titles, I’d be more than happy if Naito fulfilled his DESTINOOOOOOO!
I think that on January 5th, four people should bet two belts and fight at the same time.
When you get all of the leaders of the major factions in NJPW to the ring? This is litty!!
3 of the leaders but yeah it is awesome
Except for Ibushi
I doubt we'll see Suzuki or Shibata for that matter in the major title pic for awhile.
The day all four... Okada, white, naito, suzuki are in the same match... that will be the real war of the Devas
All of the Leaders...and Ibushi's billy no mates
未来を担う4人ですね😌オカダ選手のマイクが特に最高ですね😊
OKADA has been champion for like 12 years
He will be champion for the next 12 years too.
judging by his performance..he deserve it..also naito should be the one that dethrone okada next year
@@azrayelikhwan3783 Yes. They have been shifting Naito aside for a long time.
"...And it's getting a little lame, isn't it?" said Ibushi to Okada
Yes, Kota, it is. Geez and Christmas! Let the destrangulation of the IWGP Heavyweight Title begin.
Such a good heel
Tetsuya Naito vs Kazuchika Okada in Wrestle Kingdom 14, Naito as champion of the intercontinental title, the title that took him out of the main event 5 years ago. Finally he will have that fight against Okada to be the face of the company, Okada vs Naito, the redemption of Naito ....
ジェイっていつもマイクを床にそっと置くよね。
ヒールで通してるけど、内面は良い人なんだと思う。
どうかな?????
New Japan Worldでジェイホワイトの若手時代の密着ドキュメント番組見たけど、寡黙でカメラマンにも気を使って練習してたよ!
すごく好青年で好感持てた
ヒールほど好人物である証明をしてた
内藤の顔めっちゃマジやん
Kota Ibushi want's to hold all the titles? Is that what I'm getting out of this?
Yes and White and Naito
@@3000-z7p No I meant the 5 5 5 stuff, felt like he wants the tag titles, the Jr belt, and the US? I think it was?
@@aaronh3347 maybe hwt,ic ,us ,openwt and a tag title or jr title perhaps
@Lucan Stone Except Okada. He doesn't care.
Weekend mood:
"That's enough. All of you fuck off, i want my confetti. This is my moment"
Wrestle Kingdom is gonna be epic. EPIC, I tell you.
インターコンチネンタルは無くさなくていいし、二冠も反対!!
IWGPヘビーが最強の称号なら、インターコンチネンタルは変化や混沌をもたらす。
これはこれでいい。
SNSでは割と反対派の方が多かったのに二冠戦やるってなったのはなんか怪しいな
察して下さい笑
I think Japan is pretty lukewarm for a dual champ. Its more of a west thing isnt it? Okada bringing up the vote thing from the past might be a foreshadowing to Naito's victory at WK next year. Maybe thats why Okada became champ again this year so soon to build him up again after his loss to Omega and finally give Naito that much needed victory over Okada at the next WK.
いや〜オカダIWGPヘビーが1番は間違い無いだろ
二冠にしちゃったら同等の物になっちゃう気がして俺はヤダな…
オカダと内藤。今、この2人が新日本からいなくなったら間違いなく新日本は終わる
Jesus christ, Naito/White I-C title, Okada/Ibushi world title, Ligers retirement match, Shibata vs. Kenta?, Tanahashi vs Jericho, and the first ever dual championship main event. This could be the greatest 2 wrestling events of all time.
Oh and let's not forget about Ospreay vs Himoru!
"Where are we?"
"OSAKAAAA"
Love How Ibushi Mention Nakamura Being A Five Time IWGP IC Champion Yet Again If Naito Wins At WK14 He'll Be A Five Time Champion Himself Great Long-Term Storytelling
戴冠したことない人、防衛できなかった人の言葉より
通算20回以上防衛してきた人の言葉の重みに心打たれた
内藤もジェイも一応防衛はしてるんですけれどもね
オカダは偉大です
7 JoSeB
ヘビーに関しては内藤は石井さんから1回防衛したけど
ジェイはMSGで防衛失敗じゃなかったかな⁉︎
二冠戦をやった後の未来が見えない。
tsuki tana それは分かる
@@shinsukenakamura5674 お前が戻ってきたときIC無かったらどうするよ…
二冠されたら使い勝手悪くなって統一もしくは封印されるかもよ…
むらまさひとし 返しが秀逸過ぎてワロタ
@@たかまさ-d9d 中邑はもう戻ってこないだろ。時代が違うよ。
中邑が戻ったときのことを想像するのは中邑に失礼だと思うよ。
あっちでずっと第一線で活躍してるのに。
それにICは中邑の色が強かったことは確かだけど中邑の所有物ではない。
Love how they refused to mention omega
Why should they mention him?
Yahya Zakaria because he was the second best wrestler to come out of njpw
@@shiithatwascyanide He wasn't. Okada and Tanahashi have been the best wrestlers in the company for few years. It's just western fans love Omega cause he is white. He has been completely exposed.
もしこの誰かが二冠になってインターコンチが封印とかになったら中邑はどう思うのか…
実際このベルトを10円玉から白のデザインに変えたのも中邑の提案からだし、シリーズの大舞台でもメインまで昇格させるくらい価値上げたのも中邑の功績があってだもんなぁ……
自分の中ではまだ中邑の色が残ってるベルトであるから、WタイトルマッチとかやめてIC王者ジェイには一つのベルトに集中してほしいんだけどなぁ
それかオカダが二冠になってすぐ返上してもいい
各ユニットから一人ずつ登場して上手い事揃ってるな
バレットクラブとケオスとロスインゴと本隊すごいよねぇー
オカダのマイクに
思わず笑って頷いてしまう外道さんw
Jay white:Lmao all of you fuck off 😂😂😂 I want my fucking confetti!
誰か二冠になったらその後の試合減るからやめてほしい
IWGPとインターコンチは違う良さがあるから二冠にしたら勿体ないと思う
本当にそれ!
むしろインターコンチネンタルの方が魅力と感じる(笑)真輔のおかげで!
I will love and I will always love Jay White pleading with how he wants his fucking confetti.
It's Naito's time. Naito vs Okada on night 2.
Its Ibushi's time. Its literally been years in the making that he get to the pinnacle of NJPW and make history, plus everyone is behind Ibushi and he is super over with the crowd.
@@2Good2BeTrue45 Naito has been waiting for far longer. Naito defeating Okada at Wrestle Kingdom has been building up since 2012.
投票ってありましたよねの時の内藤の
顔がみたい
現地で見たけどそんな変わってなかったよ
My prediction for wrestle kingdom
1st night
Okada beat Ibushi
Naito beat Jay
2nd night
Naito beat Okada
Imo Naito is destined to defeat okada in the grandest stage. The last time we saw them fighting each other was 2 years ago. Meanwhile we already see Jay vs okada, okada vs ibushi, Naito vs ibushi, and Jay vs Naito earlier this year. Obviously njpw is saving the match for Okada and Naito. Storyline wise this will be epic
Okada also intentionally mentioning the poll incident to Naito. He is targeting Naito from the beginning.
Naito also need to get revenge from his lost to Jay. This is the best time for him.
Njpw also won't let ibushi to loose the title after a day he win the title. This will hurt his image as champion. The last time ibushi fighting okada he got away with the win. Its normal for Okada to make the score even by defeating him in wk.