One group of lads doing more for the lake than the council, environment agency & wildlife trust, says it all & all 3 should be ashamed of their lack of action! Well done too all that helped Carl & Alex out on this 👍
Yep, more ten willing to get environmental agency people to inspect people licences, but rarely do shit, i pay for a paddle licence, and a rod licence, fact this shit is happening, and they're even turning down local help is just bullshit too, (towards the wildlife trust) etc. at least the environmental agency did send someone down but not good enough.
Disgusting the council won't even allow you to pay for the work and do it yourselfs.. its an wildlife issue you should get a petition going to take ownership of that land and the lake. They can't just let the fish die and do nothing..
Hence depending on these people is not a smart idea. Government sucks, they won’t do really anything, they have other things to watch like hate speech.
As a conservationist and an avid British angler, I am now living in the USA. I cannot express how deeply I was touched by your efforts to rescue the fish, the lake and the environment for the next generation of anglers and others, who simply enjoy the natural beauty of such a location... Well done, very well done....
@@dogguy8603 I think the catch and release programs have their merit for certain species, however, there are a number of invasive species, many carried over in the holds of cargo ships, that lock through from the coast to the central states, passing through the Great Lakes. The Goby, and Asian Carp, are prime examples. Large scale “culls” are being made on a daily basis to eliminate these fish, but sadly, they breed faster that they can be caught! Domestically, the Fish and Wildlife departments, need to blanket certain states,offering collection services for exotics, that a released by owners who get bored, either caring for them, or they become too large to keep in a home aquarium. These fish plague the waterways, including the snake fish, which can reek havoc, wherever it is found.
@@charlesgrahammacleodstuart510 the main problem regarding Asian carp is they have to many bones, as in Americans don't like eating boney fish and there is no way to fillet a carp without getting some bones, but your right regarding exotic species, but Florida is a mess with invasive species due to the tropical climate, they hare lousy with pythons, iguanas, and snake heads. And unfortunately here in California nutria have made their way back to our waterways. But many fish species found in the states are non native to the area, a prime example is rainbow trout, and largemouth bass
My dad worked for the environment agency. He said they where prevented from doing ANY maintenance on rivers and streams due to H&S and costs. He was as disgusted as we all are.
The council doing nothing is not right they should be ashamed of them selves. Great work Carl and Alex also to others that help out. So nice to see people coming together and working hard to help the environment. Amazing job!!!!
You lads deserve huge credit and all the goodwill you’re getting. And the Environment Agency did its part. The council should be ashamed. Not just embarrassed but ashamed. Glad they’re handing it over. Well done for naming and shaming - and explaining some of the amazing work anglers do - without ranting and raving too. Truly great work and also an admirable piece of communication . 👏🏼
R.I.P to 'the pristine' Incredible effort you two. The irony of how you went above and beyond to save a fish that you had already been accused of killing. Shame on those who doubted or lied about you. The park lake campaign is still my all time favourite fishing video
*The irony of how you went above and beyond to save a fish that you had already been accused of killing* It's always been that way. The "bunny huggers" think they're doing wildlife a service by banning fishing/hunting/trapping/etc. Those of us that partake in such things are the ones that foot the bill to preserve the resource, we create habitat and food sources and do everything necessary to keep the population managed at a healthy level. All the crybaby, do nothings, reap the rewards of being able to see all the critters...then try to shame US...when they should be thanking us. If it weren't for us, they'd be taxed more to pay for sharpshooters and animal control...animals will still be killed, just the same.
I grew up 5 minutes from this lake, my friends and i used to fish there as teenagers. It's a disgrace that the council cares so little about maintaining this, even when someone else said they will do it for them, and for free! Great job guys, shame those idiots won't support your efforts.
You guys messed up the council's plan of destroying the lake. It's amazing how those responsible for protecting our wildlife, don't actually care out the wildlife. Wouldn't be surprised to hear that area's being earmarked for some development.
Well done lads. Just goes to show how bad the councils are. They waste money like crazy yet a project like this they will not help. Why carnt the enviroment agency help it id what we pay our fishing license for..
The EA at that time had run out of resources in the area as it was not only this lake that had been effected. In some case (a pond in falmer opposite the Brighton football stadium) basically dried up and all the fish were lost. They were keen to offer advice but couldn't supply any pumps. It really is down to the local council that these park lakes and waterways got to this stage, and they effectively told us to go away they have more important stuff to focus on (which I'm sure there is), however tens of thousands of people walk around this park and the lake every year and thousands use it weekly even daily for dog walking and to get out In the wild. Surely for these people's well being and mental health the relatively small amount of money (that they have in their budget) to fix the dam and de-silt a few of these waters would be worth it. Especially if the EA and other environmental institute found that the council's have been negligent then the council's will get fined anyway. Sorry for the little rant.
@@Ryanmanger thanks for the reply i can see where your coming from. However if the authorities carnt cope then they should allow others like theses lads to take it on. I think local groups willing to take this on would put much more into this and make the changes for the better if they were given the go ahead
@@ryanogden5895 totally agree, Carl was astounded when he said he would fundraise for it and do the work, all he needed was their permission and they turned around and said no.
Massive shame when fish die it happened at my local lake where I fish for carp recently because of the weather. Not on this massive scale but a shame never the less. Good work trying to help out guys!
The council idiots that have no idea what they're doing, and should be shown up for there lack of understanding anything. A massive big well done to you Carl and Alex, you done a great job and to all the people that helped out with saving nature from disappearing from us all. We need more people like you to open up the eyes of beaurocratic council wallers who are grossly over paid for doing nothing. Big well done to all who helped 👏 👍
Thank you for being a public voice, i have seen this happen before. I pay rod licences in the hope this kind of thing is avoided. Well done you guys. Love and peace.
Absolutely shambolic from the council! You should try and take this further, sent letters to your local MP and show them this video! I really hope the work gets done on the lake very soon, seeing all those dead fish is heart breaking! Amazing work from yourself well done 👏
Brought a tear to my eye that did, i would have done exactly the same, litterally no deviation. Good work Lads! I feel the next step has to be a petition, we need to preserve what we have left.
This video is just heart breaking to watch 😭 Some absolute crackin fish in that lake what a pity. Typical of the council no resources?6 blokes looking into a hole at the side of the road while 1 breast feeds the shovel is all I ever see no wonder they've no resources... Well done too all of you who got involved and done your best to help this awful situation 🙌
Young passionate people responding to Environment issues is heart warming, definitely worth looking at a Crowd Funding page and getting the Angling Media to share and promote what you are doing will certainly raise money for your cause. The local Press will love a story like this as well. I only know the basics of this kind of thing but you guys have all the ingredients to make this a success and perhaps a future vocation. So impressed with this channel!
Well done lads just shows you how much you care keep up the good work, it looks like other people don’t have the time and don’t care enough to do what youse have done 👍👍👍
Unfortunately most councils are run by corrupt counsellors that are only interested in lining their own pockets with dodgy deals in unaffordable property. The countryside environment is of their least concern as it takes to long to make money from it! Good on you for doing whats morally right and setting a positive example. Great to see!!!!
Your so right there mate! The mayor of liverpool is up for corruption & dodgy dealing & intimidation! They have a party at xmas which costs £10,000 using public money!
You're amazing Carl and the other guys who helped you. Amazing to see that people still take care of the environment, although the responsible authorities won't do it. Thank you and respect to you for keeping nature safe!
"Hey Authoroties, fix the stuff you're resposible for..?" "Nah, we couldn't afford the drain on our meagre resources" "We understand, times are tough. Tell you what, let US fix that stuff being as we get loads from it..?" "Nah, we couldn't afford the loss of face from our meagre souls..." BTW, did the guy who accused you of killing the big common turn up and help?
@@tonyford4170 politicians maybe, money skimmed off the council budget, maybe, illicit payments to favoured parties, probably. But why would a council have overseas bank accounts? Who benefits when the personnel changes? Don't get me wrong I'm no fan but I genuinely dont see what the motivation for that would be...
@@stevengreenhough4232 The Icelandic banking crisis of 2008, it was widely reported that uk councils lost tens of millions of uk£ during that year, but were able to claw some of it back.
I feel like all of us anglers have those special places that we use to fish at as kids that we went to see preserved and passed on to future generations. I hope you are able to save the lake. Keep up the hard work and don't get discouraged!
Just goes to show where all your rod licence money to the "environmental"agency goes to.... the fact that the anglers are the ones physically helping out and putting hard work in and the council then bans fishing.... what a total failure of the authorities. Once again..
Great work. Unfortunately in England most councils & agencies have zero interest in saving places like this, they're only concerned about profit & building houses over the top of nature. Fantastic to see people come together to save places of importance like this.
Absolutely fantastic story and great video, well done lads. The fact you took it upon yourselves to do your best to resolve a terrible problem shows the type of people you are. Keep up the good work 👍
So this morning I was contacted by East Sussex county council a girl called Laura she asked me whereabouts this lake was because I don't know I am going to forward this video to her !
Amazing work as always guys, it angers me that the ones who should had saved the lake didn't care or do anything to help, what a shame, hope that in future you guys can fish there again
Absolutely disgusting that neither authority will allow the restoration of this lake!! A petition maybe? I can't believe a wildlife trust has no interest in saving a wildlife area Disgusting!! 🤬🤬🤬🤬 Well done lads & all who stepped up to save the lake & the surviving fish 😊
Epic work to everyone involved. Great to see Carl and Alex using there social media platform to voice the trueth. Too many lakes going to waste these days
This makes me furious. We anglers have paid hundreds of thousands, if not millions of pounds to the environment agency over the years and they do NOTHING to help when we need them. What DO they actually do????!!!! Well done on the fish you did save
What do they do? Charge you a fee, so you don't get a fine. Like "God"..."let me in, so I can save you from what I'm going to do to you, if you don't let me in". We've had the same problem, here in Michigan...on the river that I salmon fish. State stopped the salmon stocking program. The local tribe offered to take it up, at no expense to the state...state said "NOPE...we're not doing it, and nobody else is either...(because WE don't have control)".
@@fermiticus4034 i dont think you know why the great lake states stop stocking salmon. Their prey (alewives) were declining, salmon were first introduced to reduce huge alewife dieoffs that spoiled beaches. The states stocked too many salmon with not enough food. It was a waste of state money if they fish weren't going to survive. Also, most of the fish returning to the rivers were naturally spawned fish. It's good to do a lot of research before saying BS.
@@codkue5142 You're making assumptions about the depth of the knowledge I possess. Not that I'm an expert on, or have full knowledge of the details for this particular instance. I do know why salmon were introduced. As a byproduct, it created a great fishery...which brings millions $$$ to the businesses of coastal "fishing towns", plus million$ in licensing for the state. The town I fish near, is dying a slow death. There's a lot less people now, than there was when fishing was really good. More and more businesses boarded up every year. There WAS six bait/tackle shops in town, 10 years ago, all of which were doing great. As of last year, there was one...just hanging in there. Many other small businesses are gone as well.
You should be extremely proud of yourself and all who helped efforts. Incredible video to watch, to see the angling and local community work tirelessly to preserve what you did. To hear the local authority wanted essentially nothing to do with it, and even turn down request from you to do the work... is quite frankly disgusting. Be proud of yourselves, I'm sure everyone watching feels proud of you all. Cheers!
Amazing video and you lads are the next generation to show that fisherman are not cruel and uncaring but actually the best protectors for our lakes and rivers. Keep being an inspiration and from one older angler you have my utmost gratitude
You guys have come so far and are absolutely amazing anglers, Your commitment and dedication throughout has been nothing short of amazing. The world needs more people like you 2 and you have given it your all to try to save and preserve the fish and lake in this video. Never give up on your passion or commitment as I believe others should follow in your footsteps whilst you create your own Legacy. Tight lines .... And stay safe. Massive respect to you both for your incredible efforts !!
Hi guys I'm local and have messged the council with my concerns. I'll be sharing your video with whom I can as I think the council should be held accountable for there total lack of action. I hope you have more luck with the new owner and if I can help please let me know
You boys are very inspirational to watch. You should take solace from the fact that you have gone above and beyond to try and save those lost fish. So very impressed with you. Amazing effort
Amazing work!! Setting a great example of how it's our responsibility to protect the wildlife and it's habitat! You went above and beyond! Keep up the good work!
what a massive attempt to save the fish despite the council acting like 10 years olds it was nice to see the fishermen stepping up and trying your best to save the lake and the fish hats off to you fair play ............subscribed ;-)
You two are the very definition of community, compassion and maturity. You are a fine example that with persistence, foresight and an eye on the future, You will accomplish great things even when leaders and governments are driven by their own short sightedness. Carl & Alex I salute you both and expect nothing less than your best as we move forward. :)
The 1st video i watched of you was at this lake it inspired me to get fishing and really made me a happier person. it is possibly your most important video ever. It put you on the map for fishing influences on youtube. i hope this lake will be looked after and youll be able to fish it again.
The sinic in me would be looking at a wider picture to see if the council are doing it for a reason.. maybe future housing site or other, as long as the lakes not there.. by saving it you may have scuppered their plans. Go on lads fair play. Keep up the good work. Love the videos.
Keep making as much noise as possible about it, We all know local councils like East Sussex dont like being left red faced, maybe just maybe they will relent & hopefully if locals can get a residents petition going that supports fishing and preservation of the park for the health & well being of all its users human four legged or finned
I hope the council that owns and runs the lake feel thoroughly ashamed of themselves. Again this shows how anglers are the heart of any water. Commendable efforts all involved.
Thank you for sharing this vlog with us lads. The park lake and the reservoir diaries are the videos that have made me a fan of you both, i will never forget when Alex was locked in battle with that huge Carp and when his line snapped i nearly fell of my chair, i was that gutted for him it felt like i had lost the fish myself. It's great to see that you are giving back to the place that has given you both (and us) so much. Good luck with your new adventure wherever it may take you.
Please keep us updated with any progress you get, I know we see enough petitions, but perhaps a petition to the local wildlife department may help with your cause. Stay safe. X
I feel that pain I was a fisheries officer for just under three years. In that time I learnt that the EA and local councils and wildlife trust are not there for the angler I’m afraid. Some time’s it’s better to walk away in your hart you want to do all you can but it will destroy everything you love about that place . to then be told you cannot even fist it anyway. your friend Tom knows the club in question it’s so hard you probably will find there is plans for this lake to become a bird wildlife sanctuary so fish are relevant. All I can say is do your best but do not over do it
You are great guys! I don't have enough words to express the admiration i feel for you. In the same time i can't believe the council did not care less of the situation and can't express in words how revolted i feel because if their ignorance. I salute you and your great spirit.
Absolute amazing effort . And us Angler’s will always get together and do our best to save our quarry. But are only looked at by non Angler’s as only worrying about weather we can wet a line rather than actually care about wildlife itself which is far from true. Whatever is up with the council themselves I will never know. You have basically offered to do their job for them and they have declined . Rather upsetting situation and to be fair what a bunch of ill informed and Un -educated idiots . If they have no Interest In saving the wildlife which will eventually perish with out the repair and up keep it the lake maybe it would be an idea to see if you can move the larger specimens and at least save something . Good luck mate
same here in Sydney Auz , bicycle lanes put in , no body uses them and the bikes all use the car lanes . councils live in their own world and bugger the rest of us.
Hm interesting. At least here in Pittsburgh the new bike lanes are greatly welcomed and we do have a sizable cycling community. Shame to see that’s not the case everywhere.
@@lizaelliott6862 Unfortunately, many cities either poorly plan their bike lanes making them unsafe to start with, or they just don't do basic maintenance on them. No one seems to realize that the edges of the road is where all the gravel, bits of cars, etc... all end up eventually. Making the bike lanes outright dangerous to use. I have had local cops yell at me to use the bike lanes and yet when I did I had to come to a complete stop as it was more of a gravel road than a paved one due to all the gravel from nearby construction. Yet no one ever punishes the construction companies for all the trash and gravel they leave in the streets. My city also will have a bike lane on one side of the street only, or there will be one for about 1/10th of a mile only for it to abruptly stop. Getting cars to let you merge back takes so long that it is a waste of time to even use the short section of bike lane in the first place. In general, it is safer to make cars give you space in the road vs hoping that they will. By doing stuff like riding only in the middle of lanes instead of at the side of a lane because then cars will try and use that little bit of extra space to pass you unsafely.
I'm disgusted that your offers to repair the damage were turned down, it seems a no-brainer to me. Dealing with councils is never as straightforward as it should be.
@@jo15518 i can understand them turning down a non professional to work on structural damage for a dam. But they should at least address the problem. I don't understand them turning down crowd funding to raise money that could be given to a professional to fix it
@@ToolforOffice Exactly. They of course have a right to evaluate the plan to fix the dam and comment on it in order to make it compliant with the rules (they are responsible for it after all) but a straight-up refusal like this is just maddening. They view just as an increased workload and don't care about the actual benefits.
Truly inspirational. Well done to all involved. You are a credit to your society and angling as a whole. The sooner that it’s understood that anglers love the fish and wish to preserve them and the other species which inhabit a lake, the better!
Mad respect to you guys and the local anglers for pouring your hearts out to save this sanctuary. What I don't understand is that why the council doesn't lend their helping hand? Isn't it their job to take care of this place? How ironic this is!
Absolute awsome effort by everyone involved Some people should realy hang their heads in shame letting this happen and refusing to help you should have took the dead fish and dumped them on the council offices doorstep !!
And unfortunately that is what's wrong with these councils. They are probably quiet happy to take money from anglers for day tickets but the money is used elsewhere. The Environment agency should as someone has said hang its head in shame too.
Huge respect to you all! I have a lot of memories fishing that lake myself and it really saddens me to see the huge fish kill and the lake being neglected, thank you for all you're efforts 👍❤️
Well done that’s a top effort, it’s sickening that had you not stepped in the lake could have faced a wipeout. Keep making noise and applying pressure, really hope you get somewhere. We faced a similar situation years ago on a small lake left over after two huge gravel pits were backfilled. Almost every local angler cut their teeth on it and the council were no help when needed and were happy to let the lake dry up with the loss of a lot of fish and wildlife, not only no help but actually tried to stop anyone resolving the problems. We ignored them and the EA and dug out the silted feeder channel and saved the lake, sometimes you just gotta do what you need to do.
One group of lads doing more for the lake than the council, environment agency & wildlife trust, says it all & all 3 should be ashamed of their lack of action! Well done too all that helped Carl & Alex out on this 👍
I couldn't agree more just what do we pay our rod licence fees for
It's the same shame in Germany, we have the feeling that saving the environment stops at the water surface.
Yep, more ten willing to get environmental agency people to inspect people licences, but rarely do shit, i pay for a paddle licence, and a rod licence, fact this shit is happening, and they're even turning down local help is just bullshit too, (towards the wildlife trust) etc. at least the environmental agency did send someone down but not good enough.
Disgusting the council won't even allow you to pay for the work and do it yourselfs.. its an wildlife issue you should get a petition going to take ownership of that land and the lake. They can't just let the fish die and do nothing..
That's why I don't agree with licenses because they do fuckall only on rivers
Can you set up a Petition? This would put more pressure on the Council/Wildlife Trust and I'm sure you'd get lots of signatures
good idea
great idea
would guru and korda support this.
Agree
Yes
Magnificent. The six words which repulsed me the most? "The council took their pump back".
scumbags
Hence depending on these people is not a smart idea. Government sucks, they won’t do really anything, they have other things to watch like hate speech.
@@Lilliz91 which the environmental branch probably has nothing to do with.... and is also very serious.
Who saved the fish, Anglers..Council are scum...If fishing was allowed this would have been spotted earlier...
It's the council what do you expect all of them are scum
As a conservationist and an avid British angler, I am now living in the USA. I cannot express how deeply I was touched by your efforts to rescue the fish, the lake and the environment for the next generation of anglers and others, who simply enjoy the natural beauty of such a location... Well done, very well done....
What do you think of the Northern American model for conservation?
@@dogguy8603 I think the catch and release programs have their merit for certain species, however, there are a number of invasive species, many carried over in the holds of cargo ships, that lock through from the coast to the central states, passing through the Great Lakes.
The Goby, and Asian Carp, are prime examples. Large scale “culls” are being made on a daily basis to eliminate these fish, but sadly, they breed faster that they can be caught!
Domestically, the Fish and Wildlife departments, need to blanket certain states,offering collection services for exotics, that a released by owners who get bored, either caring for them, or they become too large to keep in a home aquarium. These fish plague the waterways, including the snake fish, which can reek havoc, wherever it is found.
@@charlesgrahammacleodstuart510 the main problem regarding Asian carp is they have to many bones, as in Americans don't like eating boney fish and there is no way to fillet a carp without getting some bones, but your right regarding exotic species, but Florida is a mess with invasive species due to the tropical climate, they hare lousy with pythons, iguanas, and snake heads. And unfortunately here in California nutria have made their way back to our waterways. But many fish species found in the states are non native to the area, a prime example is rainbow trout, and largemouth bass
Well said! I entirely agree!!
My dad worked for the environment agency. He said they where prevented from doing ANY maintenance on rivers and streams due to H&S and costs. He was as disgusted as we all are.
I said same thing to an EA bailiff 2 weeks ago and he just shrugged his shoulders and walked off so I gave him some hammer verbally
You lads are an absolute credit to angling,,No your a credit to human race,,top lads and top work keep it going
I’ve said before their parents must be very proud of these lads mate.
@@baldeagleangler3373 if my kids are half as decent as these two i would be proper happy,,,im glad I share the same last name as them 😊 😄
@@tobysmith3521 they made a great thank you vid to their family. Should still be on the channel, tight lines mate.
@@baldeagleangler3373 i would love them both to come to Norfolk and have a carp fish,would be a dream come true 👍
@@tobysmith3521 if you arrange it I’ll pop down for a brew mate. Tight lines mate.
Nice too see that people care and want to save lakes like this
People care, gouverment dont
I find it disgusting how the government would rather kill the planet rather than save it until it’s too late
I’m surprised they care
I agree
Its ashame that the public have to step in..
Biggest crimes are committed by the Wolfs in suit.
Much respect for u Guys.
Greetz from Netherland 🇳🇱
The council doing nothing is not right they should be ashamed of them selves. Great work Carl and Alex also to others that help out. So nice to see people coming together and working hard to help the environment. Amazing job!!!!
This world needs more people like you. Thank-you for all you've done.
You lads deserve huge credit and all the goodwill you’re getting. And the Environment Agency did its part. The council should be ashamed. Not just embarrassed but ashamed. Glad they’re handing it over. Well done for naming and shaming - and explaining some of the amazing work anglers do - without ranting and raving too. Truly great work and also an admirable piece of communication . 👏🏼
R.I.P to 'the pristine'
Incredible effort you two. The irony of how you went above and beyond to save a fish that you had already been accused of killing. Shame on those who doubted or lied about you. The park lake campaign is still my all time favourite fishing video
Rip pristine
*The irony of how you went above and beyond to save a fish that you had already been accused of killing*
It's always been that way. The "bunny huggers" think they're doing wildlife a service by banning fishing/hunting/trapping/etc. Those of us that partake in such things are the ones that foot the bill to preserve the resource, we create habitat and food sources and do everything necessary to keep the population managed at a healthy level. All the crybaby, do nothings, reap the rewards of being able to see all the critters...then try to shame US...when they should be thanking us. If it weren't for us, they'd be taxed more to pay for sharpshooters and animal control...animals will still be killed, just the same.
I grew up 5 minutes from this lake, my friends and i used to fish there as teenagers. It's a disgrace that the council cares so little about maintaining this, even when someone else said they will do it for them, and for free! Great job guys, shame those idiots won't support your efforts.
What lake is this pal
@@maggieedlin5000 Looks like Ditchling common lake - unless i'm wrong.
You guys messed up the council's plan of destroying the lake. It's amazing how those responsible for protecting our wildlife, don't actually care out the wildlife. Wouldn't be surprised to hear that area's being earmarked for some development.
When I saw that it was deliberate neglect which was causing the leaks that was the first thing that came to my mind as well.
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Our world NEEDS more people like Carl and Alex. Well done lads!, you always inspire me and many more people. :)
Lol, "We won't take care of the lake but we sure aren't going to let you use it or take care of it." Government efficiency at it's finest.
Uk councils for you absolutely useless 😂😂
If there were more people like the two of you, the world would be a better place to live 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Well done lads. Just goes to show how bad the councils are. They waste money like crazy yet a project like this they will not help. Why carnt the enviroment agency help it id what we pay our fishing license for..
I'm sure if he lined a few pockets the council will suddenly allow work to be carried out.
The EA at that time had run out of resources in the area as it was not only this lake that had been effected. In some case (a pond in falmer opposite the Brighton football stadium) basically dried up and all the fish were lost. They were keen to offer advice but couldn't supply any pumps. It really is down to the local council that these park lakes and waterways got to this stage, and they effectively told us to go away they have more important stuff to focus on (which I'm sure there is), however tens of thousands of people walk around this park and the lake every year and thousands use it weekly even daily for dog walking and to get out In the wild. Surely for these people's well being and mental health the relatively small amount of money (that they have in their budget) to fix the dam and de-silt a few of these waters would be worth it. Especially if the EA and other environmental institute found that the council's have been negligent then the council's will get fined anyway.
Sorry for the little rant.
@@Ryanmanger thanks for the reply i can see where your coming from. However if the authorities carnt cope then they should allow others like theses lads to take it on. I think local groups willing to take this on would put much more into this and make the changes for the better if they were given the go ahead
@@ryanogden5895 totally agree, Carl was astounded when he said he would fundraise for it and do the work, all he needed was their permission and they turned around and said no.
Absolute legends!!!! The world needs more people like you!
Massive shame when fish die it happened at my local lake where I fish for carp recently because of the weather. Not on this massive scale but a shame never the less. Good work trying to help out guys!
Wow, I can only imagine how good a fishery would be with you running it
The council idiots that have no idea what they're doing, and should be shown up for there lack of understanding anything. A massive big well done to you Carl and Alex, you done a great job and to all the people that helped out with saving nature from disappearing from us all. We need more people like you to open up the eyes of beaurocratic council wallers who are grossly over paid for doing nothing. Big well done to all who helped 👏 👍
When Carl and Alex post I feel amazing!🎣And very sad to see all the dead fish in such a special lake to you!😧
Hi Sam 😂👌
@@freddieblackburn6541 haha😂🤣
@BREAM FISHING hi!😀
Who else thinks Carl and Alex should run their own fishery
Just seems enevitabal
Thank you for being a public voice, i have seen this happen before. I pay rod licences in the hope this kind of thing is avoided. Well done you guys. Love and peace.
I think they will do in the future..
Great role models for younger anglers to get into the sport. They should have a TV spot
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Every one of the council should be sacked, vote all the counselors out.
Absolutely shambolic from the council! You should try and take this further, sent letters to your local MP and show them this video! I really hope the work gets done on the lake very soon, seeing all those dead fish is heart breaking! Amazing work from yourself well done 👏
Brought a tear to my eye that did, i would have done exactly the same, litterally no deviation.
Good work Lads! I feel the next step has to be a petition, we need to preserve what we have left.
Brilliant and how ironic that the fish u got accused of killing on the park lake campaign u actually saved 👌
Top lads 👌
Wildlife trust doesnt want to protect the wildlife 🤷🏼♂️
Totally agree with your opinion I feel exactly the same.
Wildlife trusts are only interested in making money.
This video is just heart breaking to watch 😭
Some absolute crackin fish in that lake what a pity.
Typical of the council no resources?6 blokes looking into a hole at the side of the road while 1 breast feeds the shovel is all I ever see no wonder they've no resources...
Well done too all of you who got involved and done your best to help this awful situation 🙌
Well done lads, I take my hat off to you and everyone that helped out
Young passionate people responding to Environment issues is heart warming, definitely worth looking at a Crowd Funding page and getting the Angling Media to share and promote what you are doing will certainly raise money for your cause. The local Press will love a story like this as well. I only know the basics of this kind of thing but you guys have all the ingredients to make this a success and perhaps a future vocation. So impressed with this channel!
Well done lads just shows you how much you care keep up the good work, it looks like other people don’t have the time and don’t care enough to do what youse have done 👍👍👍
Well done to everyone involved. You didn’t have to do anything but still went out of your way to help. Credit to the angling world top work 👍🏻
That 99 disliker must be all the council staff and counsellors.... I feel sorry for them, if it was me, I couldn't look in the mirror...
Absolute brilliant work guys. So proud of everyone of you involved. Wish i was local as i would love to have helped. Poor fish
Unfortunately most councils are run by corrupt counsellors that are only interested in lining their own pockets with dodgy deals in unaffordable property. The countryside environment is of their least concern as it takes to long to make money from it!
Good on you for doing whats morally right and setting a positive example. Great to see!!!!
Not most - all of them! Every single one of them lie on their expense claims, and thats just the start.
Your so right there mate! The mayor of liverpool is up for corruption & dodgy dealing & intimidation! They have a party at xmas which costs £10,000 using public money!
You're amazing Carl and the other guys who helped you. Amazing to see that people still take care of the environment, although the responsible authorities won't do it. Thank you and respect to you for keeping nature safe!
"Hey Authoroties, fix the stuff you're resposible for..?"
"Nah, we couldn't afford the drain on our meagre resources"
"We understand, times are tough. Tell you what, let US fix that stuff being as we get loads from it..?"
"Nah, we couldn't afford the loss of face from our meagre souls..."
BTW, did the guy who accused you of killing the big common turn up and help?
LMFAO
Thing is, the majority of councils in the UK have tens of millions stashed away in overseas bank accounts,
@@tonyford4170 politicians maybe, money skimmed off the council budget, maybe, illicit payments to favoured parties, probably. But why would a council have overseas bank accounts? Who benefits when the personnel changes? Don't get me wrong I'm no fan but I genuinely dont see what the motivation for that would be...
@@stevengreenhough4232 The Icelandic banking crisis of 2008, it was widely reported that uk councils lost tens of millions of uk£ during that year, but were able to claw some of it back.
I feel like all of us anglers have those special places that we use to fish at as kids that we went to see preserved and passed on to future generations. I hope you are able to save the lake. Keep up the hard work and don't get discouraged!
You should be proud of yourselves, you came together and collectively did something amazing. Every one of you deserve a huge round of applause 👏
Just goes to show where all your rod licence money to the "environmental"agency goes to.... the fact that the anglers are the ones physically helping out and putting hard work in and the council then bans fishing.... what a total failure of the authorities. Once again..
I never thought I’d cry for fish. Welcome to 2020.
Try watching Seaspiracy on Netflix
Great work. Unfortunately in England most councils & agencies have zero interest in saving places like this, they're only concerned about profit & building houses over the top of nature. Fantastic to see people come together to save places of importance like this.
anglers coming together and trying their best to fix the problem is amazing respect to each person there. The fishing community is unbelievable
Absolutely fantastic story and great video, well done lads. The fact you took it upon yourselves to do your best to resolve a terrible problem shows the type of people you are.
Keep up the good work 👍
So this morning I was contacted by East Sussex county council a girl called Laura she asked me whereabouts this lake was because I don't know I am going to forward this video to her !
WHAT AN AWSOME BUNCH OF PEOPLE "WELL DONE" Another good deed to the fishermen also so a personal WELLDONE from me. 🕊
Amazing work as always guys, it angers me that the ones who should had saved the lake didn't care or do anything to help, what a shame, hope that in future you guys can fish there again
I genuinely cried my eyes out. You are wonderful. Simple.
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Absolutely disgusting that neither authority will allow the restoration of this lake!! A petition maybe? I can't believe a wildlife trust has no interest in saving a wildlife area Disgusting!! 🤬🤬🤬🤬 Well done lads & all who stepped up to save the lake & the surviving fish 😊
Epic work to everyone involved. Great to see Carl and Alex using there social media platform to voice the trueth. Too many lakes going to waste these days
This makes me furious. We anglers have paid hundreds of thousands, if not millions of pounds to the environment agency over the years and they do NOTHING to help when we need them. What DO they actually do????!!!! Well done on the fish you did save
What do they do? Charge you a fee, so you don't get a fine.
Like "God"..."let me in, so I can save you from what I'm going to do to you, if you don't let me in".
We've had the same problem, here in Michigan...on the river that I salmon fish. State stopped the salmon stocking program. The local tribe offered to take it up, at no expense to the state...state said "NOPE...we're not doing it, and nobody else is either...(because WE don't have control)".
It’s obvious what they do... they check for fishing licenses 🤷🏼♂️
Cut down dead trees in the middle of nowhere to eliminate the 1 in a 453,554,444,764,654 change it might fall over and kill somebody....
@@fermiticus4034 i dont think you know why the great lake states stop stocking salmon. Their prey (alewives) were declining, salmon were first introduced to reduce huge alewife dieoffs that spoiled beaches. The states stocked too many salmon with not enough food. It was a waste of state money if they fish weren't going to survive. Also, most of the fish returning to the rivers were naturally spawned fish. It's good to do a lot of research before saying BS.
@@codkue5142 You're making assumptions about the depth of the knowledge I possess. Not that I'm an expert on, or have full knowledge of the details for this particular instance. I do know why salmon were introduced. As a byproduct, it created a great fishery...which brings millions $$$ to the businesses of coastal "fishing towns", plus million$ in licensing for the state. The town I fish near, is dying a slow death. There's a lot less people now, than there was when fishing was really good. More and more businesses boarded up every year. There WAS six bait/tackle shops in town, 10 years ago, all of which were doing great. As of last year, there was one...just hanging in there. Many other small businesses are gone as well.
You should be extremely proud of yourself and all who helped efforts.
Incredible video to watch, to see the angling and local community work tirelessly to preserve what you did.
To hear the local authority wanted essentially nothing to do with it, and even turn down request from you to do the work... is quite frankly disgusting.
Be proud of yourselves, I'm sure everyone watching feels proud of you all.
Cheers!
Amazing video and you lads are the next generation to show that fisherman are not cruel and uncaring but actually the best protectors for our lakes and rivers.
Keep being an inspiration and from one older angler you have my utmost gratitude
You guys have come so far and are absolutely amazing anglers, Your commitment and dedication throughout has been nothing short of amazing. The world needs more people like you 2 and you have given it your all to try to save and preserve the fish and lake in this video. Never give up on your passion or commitment as I believe others should follow in your footsteps whilst you create your own Legacy. Tight lines .... And stay safe. Massive respect to you both for your incredible efforts !!
Well done all of you . And the guys who lent you the pumps and tackle to get the job done 👍
Well done all you guys who worked your butts off to save this pretty little lake, Two fingers up to the council who couldn't care less
Hi guys I'm local and have messged the council with my concerns. I'll be sharing your video with whom I can as I think the council should be held accountable for there total lack of action. I hope you have more luck with the new owner and if I can help please let me know
nice one shame this council
East Sussex Council
American Angler here great work you have done. We appreciate your work to protect a Fishery God bless
You boys are very inspirational to watch. You should take solace from the fact that you have gone above and beyond to try and save those lost fish. So very impressed with you. Amazing effort
Amazing work!! Setting a great example of how it's our responsibility to protect the wildlife and it's habitat! You went above and beyond! Keep up the good work!
The things you guys do for the angling community is amazing!!
what a massive attempt to save the fish despite the council acting like 10 years olds it was nice to see the fishermen stepping up and trying your best to save the lake and the fish hats off to you fair play ............subscribed ;-)
we need more caring people in this country like you well done cant praise you enough
Carl and Alex single handedly saving 2020, One youtube Video at a time
This is what sets them apart from other fishing youtubers. They genuinely care about the fish instead of doing only what pulls the most views etc
Well done to everyone involved it this fantastic effort 👍🏻 it’s very disappointing that the council won’t help protect the lake
You two are the very definition of community, compassion and maturity. You are a fine example that with persistence, foresight and an eye on the future, You will accomplish great things even when leaders and governments are driven by their own short sightedness. Carl & Alex I salute you both and expect nothing less than your best as we move forward. :)
The 1st video i watched of you was at this lake it inspired me to get fishing and really made me a happier person. it is possibly your most important video ever. It put you on the map for fishing influences on youtube. i hope this lake will be looked after and youll be able to fish it again.
I remember when this was happening didn’t realise how severe it was well done for all your efforts really wish I could of helped out some way.
The sinic in me would be looking at a wider picture to see if the council are doing it for a reason.. maybe future housing site or other, as long as the lakes not there.. by saving it you may have scuppered their plans. Go on lads fair play. Keep up the good work. Love the videos.
The 64 dislikes were from the Council
Then they need to be voted out at the next election.
WOW! So sad the authorities just gave up and wouldn’t even accept your help to fix the underlying problems 😢...Great job to everyone that helped out 🥳
Man this video made me shed a tear, you are an amazing person! Big cheer to you and all the people who did their best to save the lake!
Keep making as much noise as possible about it, We all know local councils like East Sussex dont like being left red faced, maybe just maybe they will relent & hopefully if locals can get a residents petition going that supports fishing and preservation of the park for the health & well being of all its users human four legged or finned
I hope the council that owns and runs the lake feel thoroughly ashamed of themselves. Again this shows how anglers are the heart of any water. Commendable efforts all involved.
Great effort from you guys. The local councils are hopeless
Thank you for sharing this vlog with us lads.
The park lake and the reservoir diaries are the videos that have made me a fan of you both, i will never forget when Alex was locked in battle with that huge Carp and when his line snapped i nearly fell of my chair, i was that gutted for him it felt like i had lost the fish myself.
It's great to see that you are giving back to the place that has given you both (and us) so much.
Good luck with your new adventure wherever it may take you.
Well done lads this is the reason i go my lake to see what's happening
Sorry you lost so many fish hope it comes back. Great job.
Please keep us updated with any progress you get, I know we see enough petitions, but perhaps a petition to the local wildlife department may help with your cause. Stay safe. X
I feel that pain I was a fisheries officer for just under three years.
In that time I learnt that the EA and local councils and wildlife trust are not there for the angler I’m afraid.
Some time’s it’s better to walk away in your hart you want to do all you can but it will destroy everything you love about that place .
to then be told you cannot even fist it anyway.
your friend Tom knows the club in question it’s so hard you probably will find there is plans for this lake to become a bird wildlife sanctuary so fish are relevant.
All I can say is do your best but do not over do it
Well done all of you, the council seems to be standing in your way. Maybe they want the lake to dry up so they can build on it
top man... and thumb's up to all those who helped.... this world need's more people like you all... keep up the good work.. peace and love.......
You are great guys! I don't have enough words to express the admiration i feel for you. In the same time i can't believe the council did not care less of the situation and can't express in words how revolted i feel because if their ignorance. I salute you and your great spirit.
Very kind of the council to take away the pumps during a oxygen crash on the lake, just shows how much they care.
Absolute amazing effort . And us Angler’s will always get together and do our best to save our quarry. But are only looked at by non Angler’s as only worrying about weather we can wet a line rather than actually care about wildlife itself which is far from true. Whatever is up with the council themselves I will never know. You have basically offered to do their job for them and they have declined . Rather upsetting situation and to be fair what a bunch of ill informed and Un -educated idiots . If they have no Interest In saving the wildlife which will eventually perish with out the repair and up keep it the lake maybe it would be an idea to see if you can move the larger specimens and at least save something . Good luck mate
Keep it up you two. I hope the wildlife Trust will listen to you more than the council did
You lads and everyone who helped these fish are absolute legends. Keep us up to date on how the lake is going.👍
Well done to all involved for stepping up and saving the remaining fish,your all a credit to anglers and good luck with trying to save the lake.👏🏻👍🏻
Yet they’ve just spent millions putting up cycle lanes that no one uses... joke.
same here in Sydney Auz , bicycle lanes put in , no body uses them and the bikes all use the car lanes . councils live in their own world and bugger the rest of us.
Hm interesting. At least here in Pittsburgh the new bike lanes are greatly welcomed and we do have a sizable cycling community. Shame to see that’s not the case everywhere.
@@lizaelliott6862 most cyclists in britain are wankers anyway im glad they aint more over here
Why do you think the building companies get the projects? Of course the people involved are getting kickbacks from the companies.
@@lizaelliott6862 Unfortunately, many cities either poorly plan their bike lanes making them unsafe to start with, or they just don't do basic maintenance on them. No one seems to realize that the edges of the road is where all the gravel, bits of cars, etc... all end up eventually. Making the bike lanes outright dangerous to use.
I have had local cops yell at me to use the bike lanes and yet when I did I had to come to a complete stop as it was more of a gravel road than a paved one due to all the gravel from nearby construction. Yet no one ever punishes the construction companies for all the trash and gravel they leave in the streets.
My city also will have a bike lane on one side of the street only, or there will be one for about 1/10th of a mile only for it to abruptly stop. Getting cars to let you merge back takes so long that it is a waste of time to even use the short section of bike lane in the first place. In general, it is safer to make cars give you space in the road vs hoping that they will. By doing stuff like riding only in the middle of lanes instead of at the side of a lane because then cars will try and use that little bit of extra space to pass you unsafely.
Hats off lads amazing
I'm disgusted that your offers to repair the damage were turned down, it seems a no-brainer to me. Dealing with councils is never as straightforward as it should be.
until they demand their council tax !!!!
iv had the same near a pond near me, the council literally are a waste of air.
@@jo15518 i can understand them turning down a non professional to work on structural damage for a dam. But they should at least address the problem. I don't understand them turning down crowd funding to raise money that could be given to a professional to fix it
Nothing in it for them. Politicians are parasitic graft artists. Belong in an anoxic zone, for life.
@@ToolforOffice Exactly. They of course have a right to evaluate the plan to fix the dam and comment on it in order to make it compliant with the rules (they are responsible for it after all) but a straight-up refusal like this is just maddening. They view just as an increased workload and don't care about the actual benefits.
Truly inspirational. Well done to all involved. You are a credit to your society and angling as a whole. The sooner that it’s understood that anglers love the fish and wish to preserve them and the other species which inhabit a lake, the better!
Mad respect to you guys and the local anglers for pouring your hearts out to save this sanctuary.
What I don't understand is that why the council doesn't lend their helping hand? Isn't it their job to take care of this place? How ironic this is!
Well done lads credit to the angling world no words 👌👌
Absolute awsome effort by everyone involved
Some people should realy hang their heads in shame letting this happen and refusing to help you should have took the dead fish and dumped them on the council offices doorstep !!
And unfortunately that is what's wrong with these councils. They are probably quiet happy to take money from anglers for day tickets but the money is used elsewhere. The Environment agency should as someone has said hang its head in shame too.
i agree coucil leeches
Huge respect to you all! I have a lot of memories fishing that lake myself and it really saddens me to see the huge fish kill and the lake being neglected, thank you for all you're efforts 👍❤️
Well done that’s a top effort, it’s sickening that had you not stepped in the lake could have faced a wipeout. Keep making noise and applying pressure, really hope you get somewhere. We faced a similar situation years ago on a small lake left over after two huge gravel pits were backfilled. Almost every local angler cut their teeth on it and the council were no help when needed and were happy to let the lake dry up with the loss of a lot of fish and wildlife, not only no help but actually tried to stop anyone resolving the problems. We ignored them and the EA and dug out the silted feeder channel and saved the lake, sometimes you just gotta do what you need to do.
12:23 He said hello and thank you to his guardians, Well done boys