It's part of placebo effect of them yes. But this one has the same advantage in giving you a visual of a sticky pad full of insects to look like it's doing something... Even though it's making no measurable impact on the number of pest insects in area and it's killing a handful of useful ones. I think the zapper's placebo is stronger though because you get that regular reinforcement it's doing something (nothing productive but something) as opposed to just when you empty it.
I remember the one large inbsect zapper, which used a 4 foot UV tube to attract the insects. It had a little tray at the base, which had long since been discarded, and it generally had a nice pile, around 4 foot long, and about a half foot high, of zapped and crispy insects each morning. In addition a dozen or so very large and fat geckos, and around a dozen large African Bufo frogs, who simply came out, ate till full, and then waddled back to sleep during the day. The pile was there every day, as it was never turned off, except for the kitchen worker to use a broom, to sweep the grids clean of those who were sort of stuck to them.
as soon as you said the tray was gone, i thought about an obese toad that would sit under the one my friend had like that. he was fat and would not respond like a normal toad when you would poke his belly. we had plenty of bugs in the area, but never the 6" pile you described. that's nearly 1.2 cubic feet of buggies per night if they fell in a pointed mound of about 35°, so yeah, everyone is going to wonder where you lived, im guessing south florida
Makes me think of a local pizza shop here in central Australia, an old establishment with average attention to cleanliness. It had a high voltage bug zapper right above the pizza making table, interesting while waiting for a pizza to be made and watching the unit crackling and popping all the insects swarming the blue tubes on a hot summers night, no doubt many dead insects made it through the HV grid and ended up as extra topping on the famous pizzas!
“Zapping and smoldering for ages” reminded me of a time at a friends when we were hanging out in the backyard and a giant moth got caught by the siren’s song of an old timey bug zapper. That thing took ages to fry to the point it stopped conducting and the entire backyard smelled like shit wrapped in burning hair. After laughing for a while the wretched stench drove us all inside.
I don't think small insects have that much of a complexity of their neural process, i don't know that they have that degree of awareness of their suffering.
@@SianaGearz _i don't know_ is the key phrase. I put up some sticky "fly paper" when I was having a brief issue with flies in my half bath. Both of my cats are rather jumpy little guys, and they clearly didn't like the old zapper when it would go off at random intervals. Seeing the flies stuck to the plastic sticky thing was awful enough, but then one day after I'd actually long forgotten about it, I looked up and saw a desiccated baby gecko stuck there. I cried. Never again.
I once used “sticky paper” in my greenhouse when annoyed by the amount of white / green flies. Coming in to find a honey bee stuck, and spending half an hour with small pieces of paper helping it to gradually free its legs one by one, put me off using them ever again. It could manage to lift one leg off at a time but its other legs were still stuck meaning it couldn’t get off. 😢
Although it leads to a terrible power factor, I love the decision to use a capacitive dropper here. I’m always very fond of simple, well executed designs. Only negative for me is the choice to use a smoothing cap with a too-low voltage rating.
@@DrHarryT Plus the power company has to install capacitor banks because loads are more often inductive than capacitive, so this is helping them out a little.
"... and certainly if you put it in a public restroom, people may urinate in it, if it was put at the right height; and I'm gonna test that" now you've got my attention
I was at a warehouse dock years ago and heard a massive loud repeated zaps going on. I looked up and there was a zapper grid just hanging like a swing sign. Made of SS tubes and bars and run with a really high power HV supply (neon xfmer?). Must have been 4x5 feet. ground was littered with dead bugs, with other bugs taking advantage of the carnage. What fun!
"This is NOT a urinal" - Ah, Magritte's lesser known inscription, which he added to his hat after an unfortunate incident when he left it unattended one night in a bar in Brussels.
When I need No-Nonsense, straight forward techie video that I can 'PLAY' ....sit back & not have to overly think🤔 Clives my man😉 I take it for granted he will always be here🤔 I sure hope so😉😚
Nice bit of kit at least you don’t have any winged friends catching fire and being blown out on to your kitchen tops, it used to happen at the butchers I worked at, sometimes you get them crackle and buzz for ages until they drop into the tray 😊 Thanks Clive
I was reading somewhere that the blue light doesn't actually attract most insects. It's just that they land on the sticky surface by chance. Fly papers seem to work well without a light.
That might be true during daylight hours or in an otherwise well-lit room. In low/no light conditions, you can run an experiment yourself. If there is a fly or some mosquitoes in the room, turn off all sources of light except a single lamp. They will all start buzzing against the bulb. Same with porch lights in the summer. Every mosquito in the neighbourhood is hovering around them.
@@phantomkate6I tried exactly that a few weeks ago. Over the course of a few evenings, I had a squadron of mosquitos on a wall and ceiling above a warm white light in the same room as a mosquito catcher with a blue or UV light. I turned off all the lights except the catcher, and left for an hour. When I came back, all the mosquitos had dispersed and the mosquito catcher had a month in it.
@@spxza How strange! We used to be able to buy deep yellow porch light bulbs around here, sold with the promise that the particular shade of yellow would not attract insects. Of course it was a load of bunk. Maybe they ought to have been selling blue porch lights! Would have been visually unappealing, I suppose.
Nice episode again, Clive! And for all the people around, the trap would most probably be no cruelty to the insects. There were quite a lot of studies that came to the conclusion, even if insects may be able feel something like pain or dispair, they do not have the cognitive ability in their nervous system to recognize it.
Not to start a further argument under this comment, but I'm pretty sure it's thought that any animal with a nervous system is able to feel some form of 'pain' or at least an irritation or disruption to its normal body processes and movements, and they have instinctive self-preservation reactions that might include thrashing. However it's really up to the individual human if they want to use a trap or not, the bug certainly can't conceptualize a feeling of fear or gratitude as most don't have true brains.
I have what may be an ancestor of this from the '70s or possibly '60s. Mine has a 6" (?) UV fluorescent tube with a mesh around it and a sort of cup below that is removable. The instructions say to fill it partway with water and add a drop of detergent. The bugs are attracted to the UV and then fall into the water which (due to the detergent) has little surface tension so they sink & drown. I had it in the garage workshop when I used to spend summer evenings there and it worked well as long as I remembered to turn it on. I didn't care much for changing the water, though.
Here in the tropics, we have a non-electric variant designed to capture flies that damage crops. A cartridge contains a fruit flavor or pheromone or something like that, and the bugs fall in the water.
I can't wait until the make LED black lights that are as good as the old fashioned tubes. They seem to work, but the best they seem to get is an indigo color. The tubes have that faint violet glow that is so psychedelic. You aren't supposed to see much visible light at all.
This device is listed on several web sites as fly and mosquito trap. Mosquitoes are not attracted to UV light, so this trap catching a mosquito is probably more or less a random event.
@@teapot_ Flies like UV light, but it has to be whatever wavelength fluorescent tubes produce, an LED lamp won’t do it. I hung fly paper next to a $10 UV tube and it collected all of a terrible fly outbreak in a day. Mosquitoes like CO2. There is an outdoor mosquito collector which burns propane to make CO2 and heats a thermocouple to power a small DC fan to help draw the bugs into a collector bag. I don’t have one, but have seen it for sale at a local hardware store.
A few years ago I bought this LED Bug Zapper that screws into a standard US bulb socket. It has 2 modes: 1; Standard LED light and 2; UV Light only. You had to turn the light switch on and off a certain way to switch between modes. It even came with a brush to help clean out the bug debris. In any event it was absolute crap and stopped working in less than 1 month. Contacted the manufacturer and they sent me a replacement. That lasted even less than the first one. Now we use the sticky pad ones that look similar to a nightlight and it works very well.
These are not weatherproof and put outside. They are normally mounted up by the ceiing inside by enterance doors. Most of the time I've installed ones like this it's in office buildings or ball park bathrooms. You get a bat or a bird in there people generally don't care and want it gone.
That just made my day 🤣 - When you showed the picture, I was like... "Oh, what is that weird blob over there..." and then you pick up the PCB and move it out of the way... I could have sworn it was part of the print. Looked like a tiny SMD thingy.
You can get double-sided tape for vinyl flooring that's really sticky and the width of parcel tape. Just cover a thin sheet of card in that and cut it to shape. 👍
As your from scotland .. around 2005 ish strathclyde uni revamped the gents toilets in the union(dont ask me which floor), down one wall where the sinks used to be were urinals run-of-the mill stainless steel folded types like a trough. down the wall where the urinals WERE were the sinks... also stainless steel troughs with a tap every metre or so. took all of 1 weekend for the need for "this is not a urinal" signs.
I bought a bug killer with an ultra violet light and an electrified mesh back in the early 1990's the first time I emptied out the catch pot a couple of flies flew out. I was gutted after having shown off this "marvellous solution" to the fly problem we had whilst living adjacent to a maggot farm!
My wife's handbag has everything including Bug Spray, and that doesn't use electricity. 👜 But I wouldn't be surprised if she had this light and a Power Rangers Mech in her Purse too. 😂✌
Thinking about it, depending on how cheaply I could get one for, I'd be inclined to replace the mains lead with a USB lead and convert it into a simple wall light, possibly a night light or night illumination. The use of a USB adapter would solve the power factor issue and well as be an easily replaceable power adapter. It would also enable operation from a USB power bank if necessary. An variation, which could be a lot more interesting, would be to replace the mains lead with a USB lead (or other low voltage DC input) and install the LEDs and electronics from a mood light or similar light. A version that also came with a remote control would be the ultimate. This would then be mounted on a wall where it would be most effective and save valuable space on a desk or bedside table. It might be an interesting project to design your own version, maybe along these lines... I suppose I do have a bit of a 'thing' for USB lights. I have converted several old halogen lights in such a manner, keeping the transformer to weight them down. I have found that various Ikea LED light of the type that run from a 2-pin DIN power supply will run very happily from 5V USB power with only a slight loss of illumination but a significant reduction in heat from the actual LED part that is not serviceable which will hopefully prolong its life significantly. I also discovered that some 12V downlights will also run from 5VDC USB power, also with a significant reduction in heat output. The ones I have are an unbranded 3W version. I have two, running as uplighters, from a dual output USB adapter. They are switch used to provide illumination at the upper landing and in the bathroom as night-time illumination. Incidentally, I have put an old CD on the ceiling for on of them to reflect off and it makes a colourful rainbow effect in the stairwell which family members have quite liked.
I remember those electric zappers working on the deli, at a supermarket. As you said, sometimes the fly's remains would get flung out from the electric zap landing on food sometimes. Or a fly would die and stick right by the electric zapper, causing an annoying zapping sound for the next 5 minutes. Well until all the water had evaporated out of the fly's body!
Nicely designed and aesthetically pleasing gadget. I'll be "sticking" to ye olde traditional bug zapper though, since they have a well proven track record against the Aussie insect problem (especially if they are "suitably modified" to provide extra energy-per-zap!)
I actually could have use for something like this, so I looked up studies on whether uv is the right choice. It depends a lot on the insect, but if the goal is to control aphids and whiteflies, green leds are better than uv by a wide margin. But this is such a simple device I could probably whip something up with a strip of green LEDs and a bucket, maybe with some 3d-printed bits. At 2W, a USB-powered device would have been better.
@@MattyEngland yeah but the insects just land on an orange strip randomly, there isn't anything in particular that they like about them. This is also a sticky insect trap, it just uses light to attract certain insects to make it more efficient.
There was a youtube video about fly traps by an American cow rancher and he found sticky traps were the best. I have never seen so many flies in my life the video was making me feel sick. I would live where he has his ranch.@@SianaGearz
Huh, I missed this one when you put it on Patreon and, funnily, it's probably the one I'm most likely to buy. Going into Australian summer, the insects are making themselves known around these parts. As always, Clive, thanks!
The UV light Zappers/Stickers (or any bright nightlight) have very little/if any effect on flies or mosquitoes but are highly effective in keeping the summer plagues of moths and beetles in check. You would need the pheromones or specific attractants to be emitted nearby to get the former into the kill zone.
clive the sticky panel is the same as agricultural bug traps they use in green houses just not the same shape i have a few around my orchids i got a contaminated batch of bark mulch an got gnats as a 'benefit'
In the bread shop here's me thinking those were poppy seeds on top of the bread under the zapper. This seems a better idea. Wait to the screams coming from the pub toilet.
We probably had a wasp nest in an air vent a few years ago... at some point, a multitude, not only a random stray, of wasps came into the auditorium and lobby during a couple weeks in the late autumn. They weren't aggressive and we never heard of any occasions of patrons being stung. Still, not the nicest guys to have around, they would zoom from wall to wall aimlessly or hover around like wondering WTF is going on. Sometimes a few would start buzzing in the the projection beam and make the image partially blurry. After exhausting themselves they sometimes just passed away in the porthole tube. Our flyzapper swallowed "a few" in the lobby and produced some substantial smoke. There was a saying, when I was young, that teenage boys can only piss into the spruce tree top. Maybe this urinalish thing might challenge some to try, even if properly mounted.
"And then they parish, horribly" this should be the slogan of all glue traps. My grandpa used to take the glue trap with the alive mouse on it and then put it in the freezer. As a kid I asked him what's up with that and he says they just go to sleep in there.
I worked in the food industry for years. The electro zappery traps were much more fun than the sticky pad ones. Modern ones have a shelf sticking out below the zappy grid to stop any bits of crispy fried bug ending up in the food. I guess companies are selling the sticky pad ones on the basis that they use less electricity, but then make money from selling the sticky pads. To be honest, when you're in a 100,000 sq ft refrigerated factory that's full of huge machines, the amount of power used by the insectocuter is negligible.
The circuit seems adequate, but the voltage being low would raise doubts about it's efficiency, but only testing it would give you the answer. Psst Clive, when you said can we guess what it is, the title of the post gave us the answer mate. Enjoyable post, thank you 👍
Haven't we all had those inebriated moments that our friends/lawyers tell us about afterwards and we laugh and laugh and laugh and plead guilty to on a first offence deal to avoid jail time?
Perhaps it's a fountain. From Wikipedia - Fountain is a readymade sculpture by Marcel Duchamp in 1917, consisting of a porcelain urinal signed "R. Mutt". In April 1917, an ordinary piece of plumbing chosen by Duchamp was submitted for an exhibition of the Society of Independent Artists, the inaugural exhibition by the Society to be staged at the Grand Central Palace in New York. When explaining the purpose of his readymade sculpture, Duchamp stated they are "everyday objects raised to the dignity of a work of art by the artist's act of choice." In Duchamp's presentation, the urinal's orientation was altered from its usual positioning. Fountain was not rejected by the committee, since Society rules stated that all works would be accepted from artists who paid the fee, but the work was never placed in the show area.
I think everyone is missing something that i think is probably a bit of an important point when it comes to this. A zapper trap can harm people ... like you can get electricuted and stuff. a roll of sticky stuff.. much less so
I don't know talking about prisons they used electrocution quite often compared to The possibilities with a sticky trap. Starvation, dehydration, potential for I guess it would be drowning in glue?
Everything is a urinal if it's within range and ability.
Remind me not eating at your place 😂
The whole world is a urinal.
@@RS-Amsterdambetter to piss in the sink than to sink in the piss.
I'm within range, Greg. Can you urinate in me?
Dyson airblade- worst designed urinal I've ever used
I thought the loud electrical zapping noises and the smoke was part of the charm of those units.
"Oh, snap!"
To be fair - it is.
It's the sound of revenge
Do you know No Panic Button's short about the bug zapper? Has a 5F capacitor in line. :D
It's part of placebo effect of them yes. But this one has the same advantage in giving you a visual of a sticky pad full of insects to look like it's doing something... Even though it's making no measurable impact on the number of pest insects in area and it's killing a handful of useful ones. I think the zapper's placebo is stronger though because you get that regular reinforcement it's doing something (nothing productive but something) as opposed to just when you empty it.
I would have liked to see a "UVA, UVB, UVC" test done, as I suspect that it's not actually UV at all, for cost savings.
I thought it wouldn’t be UV either
I'm betting that they're 405nm, "near UV", LEDs.
I remember the one large inbsect zapper, which used a 4 foot UV tube to attract the insects. It had a little tray at the base, which had long since been discarded, and it generally had a nice pile, around 4 foot long, and about a half foot high, of zapped and crispy insects each morning. In addition a dozen or so very large and fat geckos, and around a dozen large African Bufo frogs, who simply came out, ate till full, and then waddled back to sleep during the day. The pile was there every day, as it was never turned off, except for the kitchen worker to use a broom, to sweep the grids clean of those who were sort of stuck to them.
I've never seen one with a 4 foot tube.
Where was this? The bayou?
Pee in this bug zapper, and you might be the bug ! Pee is conductive. Don't ask me how I know.
as soon as you said the tray was gone, i thought about an obese toad that would sit under the one my friend had like that. he was fat and would not respond like a normal toad when you would poke his belly. we had plenty of bugs in the area, but never the 6" pile you described. that's nearly 1.2 cubic feet of buggies per night if they fell in a pointed mound of about 35°, so yeah, everyone is going to wonder where you lived, im guessing south florida
@@michaelmoorrees3585 Mythbusters!
Makes me think of a local pizza shop here in central Australia, an old establishment with average attention to cleanliness. It had a high voltage bug zapper right above the pizza making table, interesting while waiting for a pizza to be made and watching the unit crackling and popping all the insects swarming the blue tubes on a hot summers night, no doubt many dead insects made it through the HV grid and ended up as extra topping on the famous pizzas!
“Zapping and smoldering for ages” reminded me of a time at a friends when we were hanging out in the backyard and a giant moth got caught by the siren’s song of an old timey bug zapper. That thing took ages to fry to the point it stopped conducting and the entire backyard smelled like shit wrapped in burning hair. After laughing for a while the wretched stench drove us all inside.
You already know Clive has installed it for the 'unintended' purpose.
That would make a significant mess of the wall.
Would there be any chance of adding a membership to the channel on youtube?
I think the zappers are more humane than the sticky tape ones, as you mentioned. At least they instantly go out with a bang instead of, you know...
I don't think small insects have that much of a complexity of their neural process, i don't know that they have that degree of awareness of their suffering.
@@SianaGearz _i don't know_ is the key phrase.
I put up some sticky "fly paper" when I was having a brief issue with flies in my half bath. Both of my cats are rather jumpy little guys, and they clearly didn't like the old zapper when it would go off at random intervals.
Seeing the flies stuck to the plastic sticky thing was awful enough, but then one day after I'd actually long forgotten about it, I looked up and saw a desiccated baby gecko stuck there. I cried. Never again.
I once used “sticky paper” in my greenhouse when annoyed by the amount of white / green flies.
Coming in to find a honey bee stuck, and spending half an hour with small pieces of paper helping it to gradually free its legs one by one, put me off using them ever again.
It could manage to lift one leg off at a time but its other legs were still stuck meaning it couldn’t get off. 😢
It wasn’t the bee’s awareness to suffering that was triggered.
should we feel the need to be "humane" towards insects? They are extremely annoying and can carry illnesses.
Although it leads to a terrible power factor, I love the decision to use a capacitive dropper here. I’m always very fond of simple, well executed designs. Only negative for me is the choice to use a smoothing cap with a too-low voltage rating.
I love smart people in the comments actually leaving good comments.
Then again the PF doesn't matter much since it's only 12ma x 2 @2W total.
I think if they ran all leds in series the power factor could be better and it ran at half current.
@@DrHarryT Plus the power company has to install capacitor banks because loads are more often inductive than capacitive, so this is helping them out a little.
240vac urinal would definitely be a bad thing for the dangly bits!
It will just add a spark of excitement!
Yeahp, that 63V will work perfectly ............. until it pops as intended, increasing the sells..!!! Great video.
I had a similar misundertstanding mounting a urinal to the wall to catch insects. Didn't work either
The trick is to never clean them. The ones at my local McDonalds make a pretty good job of it.
"... and certainly if you put it in a public restroom, people may urinate in it, if it was put at the right height; and I'm gonna test that"
now you've got my attention
He said "I'm _not_ gonna test that" though.
@@unvergebeneidthe heart wants what it wants
I was at a warehouse dock years ago and heard a massive loud repeated zaps going on. I looked up and there was a zapper grid just hanging like a swing sign. Made of SS tubes and bars and run with a really high power HV supply (neon xfmer?). Must have been 4x5 feet. ground was littered with dead bugs, with other bugs taking advantage of the carnage. What fun!
"This is NOT a urinal" - Ah, Magritte's lesser known inscription, which he added to his hat after an unfortunate incident when he left it unattended one night in a bar in Brussels.
4:20 "Maybe I'll just crunch it up and break it"
A man after my own heart
I treat Insects in a "humane" manor, when they are outside. Once they invade my space, all niceness goes out the window.
“People may urinate in it if put at the right height.”
Wish I had a nickel for every time I heard that.
When I need No-Nonsense, straight forward techie video that I can 'PLAY' ....sit back & not have to overly think🤔 Clives my man😉
I take it for granted he will always be here🤔 I sure hope so😉😚
Nice bit of kit at least you don’t have any winged friends catching fire and being blown out on to your kitchen tops, it used to happen at the butchers I worked at, sometimes you get them crackle and buzz for ages until they drop into the tray 😊
Thanks Clive
Google Lens says it's either an insect trap, a tissue box, USB charger, ion generator, UV steriliser, slimming belt, amongst other things.
I was reading somewhere that the blue light doesn't actually attract most insects. It's just that they land on the sticky surface by chance. Fly papers seem to work well without a light.
That might be true during daylight hours or in an otherwise well-lit room. In low/no light conditions, you can run an experiment yourself.
If there is a fly or some mosquitoes in the room, turn off all sources of light except a single lamp. They will all start buzzing against the bulb.
Same with porch lights in the summer. Every mosquito in the neighbourhood is hovering around them.
@@phantomkate6I tried exactly that a few weeks ago. Over the course of a few evenings, I had a squadron of mosquitos on a wall and ceiling above a warm white light in the same room as a mosquito catcher with a blue or UV light. I turned off all the lights except the catcher, and left for an hour. When I came back, all the mosquitos had dispersed and the mosquito catcher had a month in it.
@@spxza How strange! We used to be able to buy deep yellow porch light bulbs around here, sold with the promise that the particular shade of yellow would not attract insects. Of course it was a load of bunk.
Maybe they ought to have been selling blue porch lights! Would have been visually unappealing, I suppose.
@@spxza A whole month ? - I normally only get a couple of weeks.
@@phantomkate6 I wondered if their claims are regional? And if my mosquito catcher works well where it was developed?
Nice episode again, Clive! And for all the people around, the trap would most probably be no cruelty to the insects. There were quite a lot of studies that came to the conclusion, even if insects may be able feel something like pain or dispair, they do not have the cognitive ability in their nervous system to recognize it.
Not to start a further argument under this comment, but I'm pretty sure it's thought that any animal with a nervous system is able to feel some form of 'pain' or at least an irritation or disruption to its normal body processes and movements, and they have instinctive self-preservation reactions that might include thrashing. However it's really up to the individual human if they want to use a trap or not, the bug certainly can't conceptualize a feeling of fear or gratitude as most don't have true brains.
I have what may be an ancestor of this from the '70s or possibly '60s. Mine has a 6" (?) UV fluorescent tube with a mesh around it and a sort of cup below that is removable. The instructions say to fill it partway with water and add a drop of detergent. The bugs are attracted to the UV and then fall into the water which (due to the detergent) has little surface tension so they sink & drown.
I had it in the garage workshop when I used to spend summer evenings there and it worked well as long as I remembered to turn it on. I didn't care much for changing the water, though.
Here in the tropics, we have a non-electric variant designed to capture flies that damage crops. A cartridge contains a fruit flavor or pheromone or something like that, and the bugs fall in the water.
"intended for mounting above eye height, which would make using it as a urinal quite messy" challenge accepted
I love the zappers, as an Australian I thoroughly enjoy the serenity, for non convicts, that's in reference to a 1997 movie called 'The Castle'
For those who's ancestors paid off the magistrates, tell him he's dreaming! 😉🤣🤣
This is why you should always buy one of these devices brand new and not pre-owned ...
I can't wait until the make LED black lights that are as good as the old fashioned tubes. They seem to work, but the best they seem to get is an indigo color. The tubes have that faint violet glow that is so psychedelic. You aren't supposed to see much visible light at all.
Congrats on 1Million Big Clive!
I told the kids bakers used the fly zappers to collect blue bottles to put in flies graveyard cakes( fruit slices) .
Fly cemetery here.
This device is listed on several web sites as fly and mosquito trap. Mosquitoes are not attracted to UV light, so this trap catching a mosquito is probably more or less a random event.
What does attract mosquitos. I've been thinking of getting something to control flies of all kinds.
@@teapot_ Flies like UV light, but it has to be whatever wavelength fluorescent tubes produce, an LED lamp won’t do it. I hung fly paper next to a $10 UV tube and it collected all of a terrible fly outbreak in a day. Mosquitoes like CO2. There is an outdoor mosquito collector which burns propane to make CO2 and heats a thermocouple to power a small DC fan to help draw the bugs into a collector bag. I don’t have one, but have seen it for sale at a local hardware store.
I actually cackled at the "UV Tubes" when the covering for the LEDs came off 🤣
A few years ago I bought this LED Bug Zapper that screws into a standard US bulb socket. It has 2 modes: 1; Standard LED light and 2; UV Light only. You had to turn the light switch on and off a certain way to switch between modes. It even came with a brush to help clean out the bug debris. In any event it was absolute crap and stopped working in less than 1 month. Contacted the manufacturer and they sent me a replacement. That lasted even less than the first one. Now we use the sticky pad ones that look similar to a nightlight and it works very well.
Eh, wouldn't be the first time I've "accidentally" pissed in a bug zapper.
This sounds like the first line in an excellent story.
Now I know why they threw me out of the garden bar.
Another interesting device was explained, thanks for the video...
Recall the Shell Pest Strips which had a carcinogenic coating to a flexy yellow card? Bit into one as a wee child. At 63yo, I'm still here ;-)
I like that you made the LEDs in the schematic purple
You can say that's not a urinal all you want, but if people urinate in it, it's a urinal.
If you wanted to make it even more urinal like you could replace the sticky with with a fan that sucks them in and have a pipe coming out the bottom.
Anything’s a urinal if your creative enough
You have to be careful with sticky traps as they should have a grille to protect bats and birds from them.
These are not weatherproof and put outside. They are normally mounted up by the ceiing inside by enterance doors. Most of the time I've installed ones like this it's in office buildings or ball park bathrooms. You get a bat or a bird in there people generally don't care and want it gone.
When you have bats in restaurant, you got other problems than glued bats
That style of fly trap is normally installed indoors
@@snik2pl nananananana na batman
That just made my day 🤣 - When you showed the picture, I was like... "Oh, what is that weird blob over there..." and then you pick up the PCB and move it out of the way... I could have sworn it was part of the print. Looked like a tiny SMD thingy.
It confused me too !. I had to back-pedal three times before I realised my error.
I have an ancient bug zapper outside that does a great job of zapping, crackling, and sometimes smoke making.
interesting little device with many potential uses
You can get double-sided tape for vinyl flooring that's really sticky and the width of parcel tape. Just cover a thin sheet of card in that and cut it to shape. 👍
You mentioned cruelty to flies. I've heard that the animal cruelty laws don't apply for insects as they are invertebrates.
Octopuses and their ilk, who are invertebrates, have some legal protection.
As your from scotland .. around 2005 ish strathclyde uni revamped the gents toilets in the union(dont ask me which floor), down one wall where the sinks used to be were urinals run-of-the mill stainless steel folded types like a trough. down the wall where the urinals WERE were the sinks... also stainless steel troughs with a tap every metre or so. took all of 1 weekend for the need for "this is not a urinal" signs.
what a fancy urinal you got there
Looked like cfl when powered. Nice diffusion plastic
I bought a bug killer with an ultra violet light and an electrified mesh back in the early 1990's the first time I emptied out the catch pot a couple of flies flew out. I was gutted after having shown off this "marvellous solution" to the fly problem we had whilst living adjacent to a maggot farm!
I have one with a UV tube. uses a fan to push them under the water. a little? detergent is added to the water to break the surface tension.
My wife's handbag has everything including Bug Spray, and that doesn't use electricity. 👜
But I wouldn't be surprised if she had this light and a Power Rangers Mech in her Purse too. 😂✌
Thinking about it, depending on how cheaply I could get one for, I'd be inclined to replace the mains lead with a USB lead and convert it into a simple wall light, possibly a night light or night illumination. The use of a USB adapter would solve the power factor issue and well as be an easily replaceable power adapter. It would also enable operation from a USB power bank if necessary.
An variation, which could be a lot more interesting, would be to replace the mains lead with a USB lead (or other low voltage DC input) and install the LEDs and electronics from a mood light or similar light. A version that also came with a remote control would be the ultimate. This would then be mounted on a wall where it would be most effective and save valuable space on a desk or bedside table. It might be an interesting project to design your own version, maybe along these lines...
I suppose I do have a bit of a 'thing' for USB lights. I have converted several old halogen lights in such a manner, keeping the transformer to weight them down. I have found that various Ikea LED light of the type that run from a 2-pin DIN power supply will run very happily from 5V USB power with only a slight loss of illumination but a significant reduction in heat from the actual LED part that is not serviceable which will hopefully prolong its life significantly.
I also discovered that some 12V downlights will also run from 5VDC USB power, also with a significant reduction in heat output. The ones I have are an unbranded 3W version. I have two, running as uplighters, from a dual output USB adapter. They are switch used to provide illumination at the upper landing and in the bathroom as night-time illumination. Incidentally, I have put an old CD on the ceiling for on of them to reflect off and it makes a colourful rainbow effect in the stairwell which family members have quite liked.
Congrat for the million subs!
I remember those electric zappers working on the deli, at a supermarket. As you said, sometimes the fly's remains would get flung out from the electric zap landing on food sometimes. Or a fly would die and stick right by the electric zapper, causing an annoying zapping sound for the next 5 minutes. Well until all the water had evaporated out of the fly's body!
Why do I feel the urge to re-engineer that to hold an insect zapper and mount it at an (in)appropriate level?
Thinking an electric fence supply & a grounded mat to stand on could be pretty hilarious.
Perhaps I missed it earlier, however congratulations on 1M subscribers !.
Thanks.
The transistor schocked me.
Anything is a urinal if you're brave enough.
Nicely designed and aesthetically pleasing gadget. I'll be "sticking" to ye olde traditional bug zapper though, since they have a well proven track record against the Aussie insect problem (especially if they are "suitably modified" to provide extra energy-per-zap!)
I think we’re going to need a side by side test to see whether UV or pee attracts the most insects.
I actually could have use for something like this, so I looked up studies on whether uv is the right choice. It depends a lot on the insect, but if the goal is to control aphids and whiteflies, green leds are better than uv by a wide margin.
But this is such a simple device I could probably whip something up with a strip of green LEDs and a bucket, maybe with some 3d-printed bits. At 2W, a USB-powered device would have been better.
The super sticky yellow fly strips are far better than anything electrical in my experience.
@@MattyEngland yeah but the insects just land on an orange strip randomly, there isn't anything in particular that they like about them. This is also a sticky insect trap, it just uses light to attract certain insects to make it more efficient.
There was a youtube video about fly traps by an American cow rancher and he found sticky traps were the best. I have never seen so many flies in my life the video was making me feel sick. I would live where he has his ranch.@@SianaGearz
@@SianaGearz The sticky traps have a chemical attractant. Similar to those pantry moth traps.
Between your recent videos, and the bored ape madness, I can't look at anything containing these kind of tubes any more for fear of UV-C.
Oh, anything can be a urinal if you're drunk enough.
Huh, I missed this one when you put it on Patreon and, funnily, it's probably the one I'm most likely to buy. Going into Australian summer, the insects are making themselves known around these parts.
As always, Clive, thanks!
The UV light Zappers/Stickers (or any bright nightlight) have very little/if any effect on flies or mosquitoes but are highly effective in keeping the summer plagues of moths and beetles in check. You would need the pheromones or specific attractants to be emitted nearby to get the former into the kill zone.
@@theoztreecrasher2647 Well, we'll see. I ordered a couple of cheapies (one to use, one to hack) from ebay.
3:09 I've taken one of my #2 Phillips screwdrivers and turned it down on my lathe for those deep recessed screws.
clive the sticky panel is the same as agricultural bug traps they use in green houses just not the same shape i have a few around my orchids i got a contaminated batch of bark mulch an got gnats as a 'benefit'
5:50 - the max voltage drop spec on surface mount resistors is low, so hooking up in series, is needed.
"It's not a urinal" Me>unzips pants... "we'll see about that"....
I just got an ad for a «neowatt» device that you plug in the wall and halves your power bill, and it used a clip from one of your videos 😂
I searched for it now and you’ve made a video of it 2 years ago too
I've featured them a few times.
In the bread shop here's me thinking those were poppy seeds on top of the bread under the zapper. This seems a better idea. Wait to the screams coming from the pub toilet.
Everything can be an urinal if you're brave enough
The older type has been withdrawn from many food preparation places in the UK because of bits of flies being blown onto food!
We probably had a wasp nest in an air vent a few years ago... at some point, a multitude, not only a random stray, of wasps came into the auditorium and lobby during a couple weeks in the late autumn. They weren't aggressive and we never heard of any occasions of patrons being stung. Still, not the nicest guys to have around, they would zoom from wall to wall aimlessly or hover around like wondering WTF is going on. Sometimes a few would start buzzing in the the projection beam and make the image partially blurry. After exhausting themselves they sometimes just passed away in the porthole tube. Our flyzapper swallowed "a few" in the lobby and produced some substantial smoke.
There was a saying, when I was young, that teenage boys can only piss into the spruce tree top. Maybe this urinalish thing might challenge some to try, even if properly mounted.
I'm probably Clive but congrats on passing the 1 million Subs.
"ill plug it in and see if you can tell what it is!"
**deadpan stare at the title** oh, i, could, never, guess,
This device might fit in with "Don't piss on the third rail" 🤣
"This does not reach down there..." That's what she said! 😁😁😁
Well, that would be a zapping moment if someone did use this as a bathroom!
Not a urinal, yet still a witness to the undoing of flies.
At 680 views, you had 669 likes. Pretty good going!
Temu has something similar, and there are other listings for sticky mats, if people are interested.
"And then they parish, horribly" this should be the slogan of all glue traps. My grandpa used to take the glue trap with the alive mouse on it and then put it in the freezer. As a kid I asked him what's up with that and he says they just go to sleep in there.
I worked in the food industry for years. The electro zappery traps were much more fun than the sticky pad ones. Modern ones have a shelf sticking out below the zappy grid to stop any bits of crispy fried bug ending up in the food. I guess companies are selling the sticky pad ones on the basis that they use less electricity, but then make money from selling the sticky pads. To be honest, when you're in a 100,000 sq ft refrigerated factory that's full of huge machines, the amount of power used by the insectocuter is negligible.
“Im not gonna test that”
Come on Clive. Test it.
The circuit seems adequate, but the voltage being low would raise doubts about it's efficiency, but only testing it would give you the answer. Psst Clive, when you said can we guess what it is, the title of the post gave us the answer mate. Enjoyable post, thank you 👍
Efficiency of what? It's not a zapper.
My neighbours had kids that would catch the June bugs/beetles flying around the work light, and roast them on the work light (it was a halogen).
An oldie but goodie. Yes Clive 😂
Haven't we all had those inebriated moments that our friends/lawyers tell us about afterwards and we laugh and laugh and laugh and plead guilty to on a first offence deal to avoid jail time?
Perhaps it's a fountain. From Wikipedia -
Fountain is a readymade sculpture by Marcel Duchamp in 1917, consisting of a porcelain urinal signed "R. Mutt". In April 1917, an ordinary piece of plumbing chosen by Duchamp was submitted for an exhibition of the Society of Independent Artists, the inaugural exhibition by the Society to be staged at the Grand Central Palace in New York. When explaining the purpose of his readymade sculpture, Duchamp stated they are "everyday objects raised to the dignity of a work of art by the artist's act of choice." In Duchamp's presentation, the urinal's orientation was altered from its usual positioning. Fountain was not rejected by the committee, since Society rules stated that all works would be accepted from artists who paid the fee, but the work was never placed in the show area.
It's Duchamp meets Magritte; "ceci n'est pas un urinoir"
@@somedutchguy7582 I was wondering if anyone was going to bring up Magritte.
Happy 1M 🎉
You should organise a contest to see if anyone can successfully pee into it when it's mounted above your eye height.
Might be a regional thing, but I have yet to find a mosquito or fly under my outdoor bug zapper. Good for keeping the moths and beetles at bay though.
240V when you pee definitely does not sound like fun! Ouch!
Its not a question if it *is* a urinal.
It is a question of *skill*
When drunk enough, everything is an urinal. Dammit
Awesome Video Big Clive
I think everyone is missing something that i think is probably a bit of an important point when it comes to this.
A zapper trap can harm people ... like you can get electricuted and stuff.
a roll of sticky stuff.. much less so
When I was young and had no sense I took a piss on an electric fence. It hurt so bad when it shocked my balls that I took a crap in my overalls.
purple marker, how appropriate!
I don't know talking about prisons they used electrocution quite often compared to The possibilities with a sticky trap. Starvation, dehydration, potential for I guess it would be drowning in glue?