Will this bike be banned just like the drones will? Because who knows it might fly over a home! And since it's Chinese that's dangerous for some reason!?
This is the best review of the DJI motor I've seen. Thoroughly tested, and very clear talking points in your presentation. You're definitely the best ebike tester 👍 I hope the DJI motor becomes more prolific so we can get it in other brands.
Wow, thanks for your kind words... I try really hard to get all the information we need to understand and I totally agree its going to be very interesting to see who put the DJI motor in their ebikes
I would like to see a range test with the motor limited to 85nm. If it's significantly more efficient than the Bosch, that would be a selling point to me rather than the higher available power.
German magazine "bike" did one. It is slightly below the Bosch's range, but regarding the 150g lighter battery, you get the same height per weight in both systems.
Loving my 1 week old PL Carbon Pro 800KW. RIdes like a Gen 2 Levo SL S Works, but with 3 times the power and even as a heavy rider I am finding it so much more efficient than my Gen 3 Levo S Works. Next Gen of eBikes is a great description of it.
@@SamsBikes I have a Rise at 17kg with pedals on the 360 battery, the key is being able to wind the power and torque down to save battery and take advantage of the light weight. If you cannot reduce the power on the DJI to the same level as the ep801 you will need a bigger battery as you will burn through it (if you can't knock it back in settings). I have read this level of being able to reduce power on the DJI is not as good as the other motors at the moment ?
thanks for the enthusiastic review, but there is something that is not mentioned, namely, the aftersales policy of AMFLOW with regard to the lifespan of the engine, in hours of use and mileage, the repairability, the supply of parts for the engine, It is a financial nightmare if the engine breaks down after the warranty period, which happens often, testers like you should inform future buyers about the risks of the purchase, and the manufacturers should be forced to share their own test data about the lifespan, and the reperability and the supply of parts to customers, greetings Jan,
Thank you for your comment, Jan. Currently, DJI is offering a two-year warranty on motors in Europe and a three-year warranty in Spain. After this period, you will likely be able to purchase a motor from DJI for around 600 to 1,000 euros, similar to other major e-bike motor companies. Additionally, DJI has stated that the motor will be repairable, not just replaceable, in the future.
Merry Christmas man! Amazing review - loving the follow in front pov - looks great. Amazing seeing your channel grow and get the recognition it deserves too. All the best for 2025!
Thanks 🙏 brother I really appreciate the kind words what a crazy 5 years but yes finally the channel is working! Check out my instagram to see the set up I made to do the follow camera it’s crazy and a little dangerous haha have a great Xmas and new year with the family
5:53 what I’ve heard is, that you can’t reduce the watts. So how ever you will change the settings it will drain the battery and have a lot of power. They need to change that.
@zott- not sure what you are getting at but it's the assist level that controls the amount of energy being taken from the battery , so not sure what you mean .
Hi. Could you estimate vertical m range if you would run it in ECO or TRAIL mode? 1776 vm for turbo is impressive, but I am interested in max possible will lower power? This is especially important in whole day alpine adventures...
Everything is great, but what happens if the motor breaks down? If the spec breaks down, I get a new engine in two days and keep riding. When my Shimano broke, it took 8 days, but what about this one? That’s the only thing I’m worried about. Everything else is great. As soon as it’s available in Poland, I’ll buy it for my collection. Greetings from Poland!
Merry Christmas and thanks a lot for a great review! I am about to upgrade from a 2022 Orbea Rise M10 to the new Orbea Rise SL but after I seen this review I may have changed my mind...! What I really love about the rise is the "natural mtb behavior" as I have been riding trailbikes for about 25 years but the MFlow seems to be a next gen product. I guess the Orbea SL will still feel a bit lighter than the MFlow? Which one of these two bikes would you recommend 😉
Merry Christmas and fantastic question and actually make sure you subscribe to the channel because we are doing a back to back review or shoot out of the Obea RiseVs the Amflow in February
On your chart ranking the motor efficiency, is the Specialized motor rating for the full power Levo or Kenevo? How do you rate the Amflow bike overall compared to the Levo/Kenevo?
Merry Christmas Sam, great, informative breakdown of the system. Nothing against the Amflow but I'm really interested to see what other companies do with this motor, I've seen the Forbidden leak and that looks really interesting. As you hinted at I think the future of e-bikes could be a 4-600 main battery and a range extender, like the SC Vala and new Whyte e-lyte. 0.5kg on the motor isn't going to make that much difference but loosing that battery mass from up near the headtube does have a big impact on the ride, hopefully that's the route Forbidden will take. I realize your extreme range test is a fair and time effective way to test range but I would really like to see the same test in trail or even eco, it would just mimic my use case better. Looking forward to see what 2025 brings.
Hey Tony thanks for your kinda words.... Yes, definitely the future is bright and I'm sure quite a few Mountain Bike companies will be running the DJI system in the near future... As for the range test honestly I'm not sure how long I can keep on doing this even in the highest assistant mode it takes a lot of time to test all his motors so I don't think I'll ever do that in Eco or Trail but by all means you're welcome to do it, ha ha
@@SamsBikes guess it's a good problem to have that the range is so good now. I think we're at the point were you could do a good weekend without charging
Thanks Sam, torn between this and the turbo levo. Some really good deals on the levo in the Uk atm, but fascinated by this bike. How do they compare and which would you go for. I do enduro and trail. My main concern is support for from dj, Specialized have a great support network.
Hi Sam - great reviews on this bike mate. I know you run mullet - have you tried in both the flip chip positions or just the 27.5 position? Interesting to see if leaving it in 29 position with 27.5 wheel would lower the bottom bracket height? Cheers
Hey Mark thanks for the kind words I've only run the Amflow in the high position with the 27 rear wheel because it sits rather low and I don't think you'd wanna run it in the low position.
How hard will it be to derestrict this motor? Could we make a sensor with less than 42 pickups? Or does it have to be software / electronics derestrict?
Absolutely amazing review- quick question 🙋♂️ I have 2021 Santa Cruz Heckler- is this bike as powerful ? More or less ? Thanks from one RUclipsr to another! Anabolic Doc
Thanks for the comment... the DJI motor is alot faster than the ep801 I did a hill climb test and the DJI got 30 seconds and the Shimano 43 seconds so their is a lot of difference in speed.
Hi Sam I’m looking at getting my first emtb and I’ve narrowed it down to the amflow and the Santa Cruz vala, I want to be mainly riding trails and down hill with the occasional jumps what bike would be more suited plus seeing as this is the gen 1 for dji Bosch has been doing this for a lot longer so as far as reliability and tech what’s your opinion
Both are great options, Amflow will be loads faster going up and I think the Vala will be better as a TrailDuro so faster more stable on the enduro / DH trails
Hey Sam…Merry Christmas… Great review on the AMFlow.. how does it compare to the Trek Fuel EXe in-terms of motor drag when motor is turned off? Also sound wise on a good surface road? Is it noisy? How does it compare to the EXe or the Specialized SL?
Hey mate thanks for the kind words..... I'm 85kg full loaded maybe a bit more after christmas haha. And as for the chainstays im not a massive rider being 85kgs and now ive made it more Enduro with my build I'm really liking the bike. Out of the box I found it actually too stiff not Flexi with Carbon everything... I chaned Coil, 38s, Alloy wheels and bars and its so much better
@SamsBikes thanks for your feedback. I'm actually riding a Ransom 900 tuned with carbon wheels and bar and I love when it's stiff. I'm 90kg and if I had to buy this bike I will switch for a 170mm fork for sure. I'm waiting for the future forbidden dreadnought emtb with the avinox motor. 2025 will most certainly be a year of change thanks to DJI because other brands will surely react. I am waiting to see the future Bosch screen on the frame because many models have already planned the location. Have a very happy holiday season.
Your video says it includes paid promotion, did Amflow or DJI pay you any money over the last 6 months or their PR company? If so in what context? Or is the paid promotion for another product you are using which is in the video, i.e. Schwalbe?
Interesting video sam a lot of insight, as amflow are just new to the market the only concern if you wanna call it about the longevity of these bikes. Am in the market for a new emtb which am currently deciding between this, the orbea wild or Santa Cruz heckler s model29er as these appeal to me in terms of what they are capable of doing riding wise..Hard decision to make as these toys are big coin which all have perks/disadvantages in its own ways I’m leaning towards the santa cruz though this vid is making me think otherwise again as been doing a lot of research on vids being produced about the amflow the past couple of months already..appreciate any feedback cheers sam
Hey mate thanks for the kind words, go try and test ride the Amflow the motor is very very impressive and after putting a coil and Alloy wheels I find the bike rides well on enduro trails
Hey Sam I have just taken delivery of my amflow. I wondered what your views were of magic Mary front and rear? I note everyone seems to suggest a mm rear and big betty combo? I want to get the new radials and not you have them front and rear?
I put a Volspeed chip in my Bosch, amazing difference. It is set to 28 mph or 45km, which is what these bikes should be put at not restricted by some Karen politician. Yes you don't need it while riding singletrack but you definitely need it while riding everywhere else, makes a huge difference and makes the bike safer
Other reviewers point out, the frame has too much flex. What is your experience? I would like to know more about the frame and how it feels to ride fast turns.
Kind of think these new higher power motors are going to be to much for the current crop of drive trains even the shimano link glide isn’t going to be enough! Someone needs to step up and make a really beefy 8-10 speed System that can take the extra torque of these motors!
Hey mate thanks for the comment... Honestly, I've had no problem with the Sram t type 12 speed transmission apart from the cage sits too low in a mullet set up
Just got the silver Amflow, way more value for money. It’s so good, the other brands are way behind. The integration, app, innovation, controls, it’s just next level, why would I go for another high price brand with another motor😅
Happy Christmas Sam I hoping the new 2025 Spec turbo levo has the DJi motor in it or HAS Spec developed something of its own that’s as good as the DJI My local Spec bike shop that has been developing the new 2025 bike said to me the bike will blow my mind when it’s released and he also said you’ve been talking to him as well Have a good new year as well and hope the future is bright
id like to see a gps based speed limiter , so you can have a pedelec on the road at 45 and an off road speed of 32/25 kmph depending where you live in the same way DJI fence quad copters from air traffic .
This would change significantly with the next firmeware update. It would make a good bike perfect. I am using my Amflow as customer since Oct. 17 (first delivery day in Germany), done 1,300 km with zero issues.
I‘m riding mine since November and had no issues since now. Only the built in inclinometer doesn‘t work good despite multiple calibrations… Any similar experiences?
@ Die Erfassung der Höhenmeter (Anstieg/Abstieg) ist sehr zuverlässig. Die Starthöhe muss nach Luftdruckveränderungen manuell eingegeben werden. Ich gehe davon aus, dass barometrisch gemessen wird. Die Neigung in % auf dem Amflow-Display zeigt deutlich zu viel an. Dieser Bug ist an DJI gemeldet, identifiziert und soll im nächsten Update berichtigt werden.
@ Höhenmeter verstellt sich bei mir, wenn ich manuell eingebe sehr schnell wieder. Und in meinem Fall zeigt der Neigungsmesser viel zu wenig an. Bisher max. 22% (entspricht ca. 12°). Hatte es auch schon an Amflow gemeldet. Werde Mal das Update abwarten und schauen, wie es sich entwickelt. Hoffe es ist dann behoben und kein Hardwareproblem?! Ansonsten mega Bike… Danke für deine Antwort! Und viel Spaß auf‘m Trail 🤙🏽
As always, if aftermarket motor builders wanted to make money, they could make them fit existing bikes. Interchangeability is a zero with EMTB's. This Amflow bikes looks the business though!
@@SamsBikes As many shimano motors have been sold, if guys could stick a hot rod motor in imagine how many would sell!....Im still getting by fine with my EP8 but someday..............
@@vashon100 If unspecified, everyone on the internet is from the country that is the center of the universe. The United States Of God Blessed Murrica. Although really, if there were an online retailed in another country that was legit and trustworthy, I could buy it from them and import it myself I'm sure. Its also kind of obvious, as N America seem to be the one place this bike isn't available yet.
hey David, as it stands right now, you can only buy the Amflow in China Australia Germany and the UK and the first quarter of 2025 I believe they're opening up Spain and France and a few other countries in Europe with America follow later in 2025.
So far the battery isn’t performing very well! 50% of battery = 15km with 481 meters of climbing. That with the power reduced to 90nm in trail mode no boosting! How did you connect the camera to the bike?🤔
That things noiser than my gen4 Bosch, il wait and see what the long term reliability is like, for me I'm waiting for the IMG sick of snapping chains..
@@vaughanboyce3702here in Australia a mechanic in Newcastle has shimmed the rear triangle with some spacers and said it’s noticeably better in the rear.
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Riders Merry Christmas and if you have any questions like always just ask.
🎉 merry Christmas Sam if you ever wanted to do some testing in wet Wales hit me up 😂
Will this bike be banned just like the drones will?
Because who knows it might fly over a home!
And since it's Chinese that's dangerous for some reason!?
@@andrewevans9514 haha thanks
@@markdove5930 I dont think so.
@@SamsBikesI know I'm joking but I'm getting tired of the anticompetitive behavior.
Just be better and win fair.
This is the best review of the DJI motor I've seen. Thoroughly tested, and very clear talking points in your presentation. You're definitely the best ebike tester 👍 I hope the DJI motor becomes more prolific so we can get it in other brands.
Wow, thanks for your kind words... I try really hard to get all the information we need to understand and I totally agree its going to be very interesting to see who put the DJI motor in their ebikes
I would like to see a range test with the motor limited to 85nm. If it's significantly more efficient than the Bosch, that would be a selling point to me rather than the higher available power.
Thats a very good point
German magazine "bike" did one. It is slightly below the Bosch's range, but regarding the 150g lighter battery, you get the same height per weight in both systems.
Loving my 1 week old PL Carbon Pro 800KW. RIdes like a Gen 2 Levo SL S Works, but with 3 times the power and even as a heavy rider I am finding it so much more efficient than my Gen 3 Levo S Works. Next Gen of eBikes is a great description of it.
Nice job mate! That’s an exhaustive review.
Thank Brother
Well done! Also, luv the 38 fork and other upgrades w/800 Wh battery. Thanks for the actual trail/wet weight 22.6 kg/49.8 lbs +/- ...keep'n it real!💯
Thanks legend...
Amazing shout on the 400 battery, that makes perfect sense, they should really do that !!
Thanks mate
@@SamsBikes I have a Rise at 17kg with pedals on the 360 battery, the key is being able to wind the power and torque down to save battery and take advantage of the light weight. If you cannot reduce the power on the DJI to the same level as the ep801 you will need a bigger battery as you will burn through it (if you can't knock it back in settings). I have read this level of being able to reduce power on the DJI is not as good as the other motors at the moment ?
thanks for the enthusiastic review, but there is something that is not mentioned, namely, the aftersales policy of AMFLOW with regard to the lifespan of the engine, in hours of use and mileage, the repairability, the supply of parts for the engine, It is a financial nightmare if the engine breaks down after the warranty period, which happens often, testers like you should inform future buyers about the risks of the purchase, and the manufacturers should be forced to share their own test data about the lifespan, and the reperability and the supply of parts to customers, greetings Jan,
Thank you for your comment, Jan. Currently, DJI is offering a two-year warranty on motors in Europe and a three-year warranty in Spain. After this period, you will likely be able to purchase a motor from DJI for around 600 to 1,000 euros, similar to other major e-bike motor companies. Additionally, DJI has stated that the motor will be repairable, not just replaceable, in the future.
Merry Christmas man!
Amazing review - loving the follow in front pov - looks great. Amazing seeing your channel grow and get the recognition it deserves too. All the best for 2025!
Thanks 🙏 brother I really appreciate the kind words what a crazy 5 years but yes finally the channel is working! Check out my instagram to see the set up I made to do the follow camera it’s crazy and a little dangerous haha have a great Xmas and new year with the family
Looks great! I hope for gen 2, you can send your drone after your bike if its taken.
Haha
DJI has impressed me over the past few years. I look forward to this motor in other brands chassis.
totally agree
Awesome review!!!
Super complete and love all the insights throughout the whole bike👌🏼
Thanks mate!
i am absolutely loving my Amflow
Glad you hear
5:53 what I’ve heard is, that you can’t reduce the watts. So how ever you will change the settings it will drain the battery and have a lot of power. They need to change that.
na you can full tune the motor get less or more power
@zott- not sure what you are getting at but
it's the assist level that controls the amount of energy being taken from the battery , so not sure what you mean .
This legend had the Ampflow for 6 months while we're waiting for next 2 years.
Haha actually 18 months if you include the private testing.
my next bike. and based on your reviews too. Thanks Sam and Happy New Year
Hey Kevin thanks for your kind words and support this year have a great a Christmas and new year with the family
Merry Christmas, Legend!
Thanks Legend you too!
Hi. Could you estimate vertical m range if you would run it in ECO or TRAIL mode? 1776 vm for turbo is impressive, but I am interested in max possible will lower power? This is especially important in whole day alpine adventures...
Great review!!!!!❤
Great Editing
Super informative, thank you Sam.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks you 🙏👍
You're thé Best.
And Amfiis the Best Eboke.
Merci beaucoup pour cette belle vidéo.👍
Thanks Tony I really appreciate your kind words have a great Christmas and a new year with the family
Merry Christmas Sam, and thank you for this review.. great as always! From Minnesota USA. Will Amflow bikes be available in United States??
Merry Christmas Ron thanks for the kind words.... I think Amflow will be sold mid to late 25 in America
Everything is great, but what happens if the motor breaks down? If the spec breaks down, I get a new engine in two days and keep riding. When my Shimano broke, it took 8 days, but what about this one?
That’s the only thing I’m worried about. Everything else is great. As soon as it’s available in Poland, I’ll buy it for my collection.
Greetings from Poland!
Merry Christmas and thanks a lot for a great review! I am about to upgrade from a 2022 Orbea Rise M10 to the new Orbea Rise SL but after I seen this review I may have changed my mind...! What I really love about the rise is the "natural mtb behavior" as I have been riding trailbikes for about 25 years but the MFlow seems to be a next gen product. I guess the Orbea SL will still feel a bit lighter than the MFlow? Which one of these two bikes would you recommend 😉
Merry Christmas and fantastic question and actually make sure you subscribe to the channel because we are doing a back to back review or shoot out of the Obea RiseVs the Amflow in February
On your chart ranking the motor efficiency, is the Specialized motor rating for the full power Levo or Kenevo?
How do you rate the Amflow bike overall compared to the Levo/Kenevo?
It was on my Levo Gen 3, Levo vs Amflow? Amflow wins on the ups the Levo wins on the downs
Merry Christmas Sam, great, informative breakdown of the system. Nothing against the Amflow but I'm really interested to see what other companies do with this motor, I've seen the Forbidden leak and that looks really interesting. As you hinted at I think the future of e-bikes could be a 4-600 main battery and a range extender, like the SC Vala and new Whyte e-lyte. 0.5kg on the motor isn't going to make that much difference but loosing that battery mass from up near the headtube does have a big impact on the ride, hopefully that's the route Forbidden will take. I realize your extreme range test is a fair and time effective way to test range but I would really like to see the same test in trail or even eco, it would just mimic my use case better. Looking forward to see what 2025 brings.
Hey Tony thanks for your kinda words.... Yes, definitely the future is bright and I'm sure quite a few Mountain Bike companies will be running the DJI system in the near future... As for the range test honestly I'm not sure how long I can keep on doing this even in the highest assistant mode it takes a lot of time to test all his motors so I don't think I'll ever do that in Eco or Trail but by all means you're welcome to do it, ha ha
@@SamsBikes guess it's a good problem to have that the range is so good now. I think we're at the point were you could do a good weekend without charging
Great review Sam, thanks very much for all your hard work. Any chance you could include the full spec of your bike.
Thanks mate! Check out my Long term review of the Amflow on the channel a few weeks back full list of the build there
Thanks Sam, torn between this and the turbo levo. Some really good deals on the levo in the Uk atm, but fascinated by this bike. How do they compare and which would you go for. I do enduro and trail. My main concern is support for from dj, Specialized have a great support network.
Thanks 🙏 mate different bikes! Amflow is amazing going up Levo is better going down. But both are fantastic bikes
Hi Sam - great reviews on this bike mate. I know you run mullet - have you tried in both the flip chip positions or just the 27.5 position? Interesting to see if leaving it in 29 position with 27.5 wheel would lower the bottom bracket height? Cheers
Hey Mark thanks for the kind words I've only run the Amflow in the high position with the 27 rear wheel because it sits rather low and I don't think you'd wanna run it in the low position.
How hard will it be to derestrict this motor? Could we make a sensor with less than 42 pickups? Or does it have to be software / electronics derestrict?
I'm not sure maybe ask on the Amflow Facebook group
Great review ! Good to hear this..😊👌🏻 best wishes and merry Christmas 🎄 from Germany/Eifel - greets Sascha
Hey Sascha thanks for the kind words and Merry Christmas and a happy new year.
Absolutely amazing review- quick question 🙋♂️ I have 2021 Santa Cruz Heckler- is this bike as powerful ? More or less ? Thanks from one RUclipsr to another! Anabolic Doc
Thanks for the comment... the DJI motor is alot faster than the ep801 I did a hill climb test and the DJI got 30 seconds and the Shimano 43 seconds so their is a lot of difference in speed.
Are the radial skower rolling??? If u need higher pressures does this make ride harsh??
Hi Sam
I’m looking at getting my first emtb and I’ve narrowed it down to the amflow and the Santa Cruz vala, I want to be mainly riding trails and down hill with the occasional jumps what bike would be more suited plus seeing as this is the gen 1 for dji Bosch has been doing this for a lot longer so as far as reliability and tech what’s your opinion
Both are great options, Amflow will be loads faster going up and I think the Vala will be better as a TrailDuro so faster more stable on the enduro / DH trails
Hey Sam, if you fill half of the speed sensor holes with metallic epoxy, would it still work and double your speed limit?
I can't comment haha maybe ask the Amflow ebike group
Hey Sam…Merry Christmas…
Great review on the AMFlow.. how does it compare to the Trek Fuel EXe in-terms of motor drag when motor is turned off? Also sound wise on a good surface road? Is it noisy? How does it compare to the EXe or the Specialized SL?
Happy holidays Mitch, the DJI motor has more drag than the Specialized 1.2 and the TQ
Great job, could you tell us il you have a conflict of interest with DJI ? In France currently no sellers
Hey rider bikes will be sold in France early next year
Regarding water intrusion test; is the test performed with the motor at operating temp?
not sure about that but that's a great question. Let me try and find out.
Superb Sam merry Xmas from sunny coast qld 👍🎄
Thanks bro 😎 I’m actually in Rad enjoy a James Boags as we talk haha have a great one
Should I buy an AMFLOW or a trek fuel Exe discounted right now?
Ant reviews in the pipeline for the Askoll Ultra C90A motor?
Any sign of wear on the drive train from all the extra power?
nothing from the motor but loads from Rocks... the Sram T Type sits way to low on Mullet set ups
Buon Natale. Volevo sapere se possono collegare garmin e simili con il sistema ANT?
Grazie mille e buon anno?
Thanks for this review 👌 About the range test, what is your weight fully equipped? 37km 1700 D+ I'm impressed!
Another question, did you feel the rear triangle was too flexible as I have seen in other videos?
Hey mate thanks for the kind words..... I'm 85kg full loaded maybe a bit more after christmas haha. And as for the chainstays im not a massive rider being 85kgs and now ive made it more Enduro with my build I'm really liking the bike. Out of the box I found it actually too stiff not Flexi with Carbon everything... I chaned Coil, 38s, Alloy wheels and bars and its so much better
@SamsBikes thanks for your feedback. I'm actually riding a Ransom 900 tuned with carbon wheels and bar and I love when it's stiff. I'm 90kg and if I had to buy this bike I will switch for a 170mm fork for sure. I'm waiting for the future forbidden dreadnought emtb with the avinox motor. 2025 will most certainly be a year of change thanks to DJI because other brands will surely react. I am waiting to see the future Bosch screen on the frame because many models have already planned the location. Have a very happy holiday season.
Thanks mate it's been very interesting to your review 👍 now go and have some tins happy new year 🎉 laters 🙃
Thanks mate, and I’m drinking a nice cold one as we speak haha have a great break with the family
When you overlay the gps data onto footage can you still export in 4k or is it stuck at max 1080p like insta360?
Your video says it includes paid promotion, did Amflow or DJI pay you any money over the last 6 months or their PR company? If so in what context?
Or is the paid promotion for another product you are using which is in the video, i.e. Schwalbe?
Merry Christmas Alex I wish you a fast recovery from your crash and a great new year and thanks for your kind worlds
Interesting video sam a lot of insight, as amflow are just new to the market the only concern if you wanna call it about the longevity of these bikes.
Am in the market for a new emtb which am currently deciding between this, the orbea wild or Santa Cruz heckler s model29er as these appeal to me in terms of what they are capable of doing riding wise..Hard decision to make as these toys are big coin which all have perks/disadvantages in its own ways
I’m leaning towards the santa cruz though this vid is making me think otherwise again as been doing a lot of research on vids being produced about the amflow the past couple of months already..appreciate any feedback cheers sam
Hey mate thanks for the kind words, go try and test ride the Amflow the motor is very very impressive and after putting a coil and Alloy wheels I find the bike rides well on enduro trails
When will we se this motor with other brands, cheaper frames and specs?
Next 6-12 months
@@SamsBikes nice👌🏻
How do you like the coil over the original air shock? Looks great, but progression looks pretty linear. Not too many bottom outs?
I found the air pretty skatty and went to a 550lb coil I think the bike riders way better and no harsh bottom outs
@ awesome mate, thanks!
Why no one of big ebike chanels havent reviewed scott ransom eride? Neither patron? What's wrong about scott brand that doest get attention at all?
Not sure mate! There marketing team seems pretty slow to the party
Absolutely great review thanks!
Thanks rider
Looking forward to seeing that motor combined with the pinion gearbox and belt drive !
Hey Sam I have just taken delivery of my amflow. I wondered what your views were of magic Mary front and rear? I note everyone seems to suggest a mm rear and big betty combo? I want to get the new radials and not you have them front and rear?
Mate definitely go MM Radials 2.5 ultra soft gravity front and MM Radials 2.4/2.5 gravity soft rear. Let me know how you get on they are amazing!!!!
Always good mate do you know when amflow are comming to Holland.
Thanks mate not sure probably early 25
When will this be available in the USA?
not sure probably mid 25
Probably never . USA trying to ban Dji drones + tarrifs .Why would they want to send them to you???.
@@robhaskins3068 USA also has more powerful Luna emtbs
Can’t go wrong with DJI
Agree
Be good if you could ask DJI about repairability and will the motor be a throw away or have some replaceable parts ,bearings etc.
In the beginning any fails will be replaced with a new motor but DJI do plan on fixing the motors.
Great review, just wondering if you leave your bikes restricted or do you deristrict them?
Thanks 🙏 I never deristrict them
@@SamsBikes Thanks, great to know.
I put a Volspeed chip in my Bosch, amazing difference. It is set to 28 mph or 45km, which is what these bikes should be put at not restricted by some Karen politician. Yes you don't need it while riding singletrack but you definitely need it while riding everywhere else, makes a huge difference and makes the bike safer
EU or USA Region? 25 or 32 km ?
Other reviewers point out, the frame has too much flex. What is your experience? I would like to know more about the frame and how it feels to ride fast turns.
I’m 85kg and I don’t find the flex a problem and all the upgrades I’ve made have made a huge difference
any rumors about what other bike manufactures might be signing up to the DJI motor?
Forbidden might release in a few months
Can this motor be purchased separately for DIY builds?
no
@@SamsBikes Thank you
are you shooting on dji osmo pocket 3 ?
Yes Sir amazing little camera. I have a Sony A7siii as my main camera and the Pocket 3 as a follow camera on the bike
Kind of think these new higher power motors are going to be to much for the current crop of drive trains even the shimano link glide isn’t going to be enough!
Someone needs to step up and make a really beefy 8-10 speed
System that can take the extra torque of these motors!
Hey mate thanks for the comment... Honestly, I've had no problem with the Sram t type 12 speed transmission apart from the cage sits too low in a mullet set up
I hope someone figures out some sort of mounting kit to make these fit in a Bosch CX pattern
Just got the silver Amflow, way more value for money. It’s so good, the other brands are way behind. The integration, app, innovation, controls, it’s just next level, why would I go for another high price brand with another motor😅
congrats on the new ewhip.... I agree I think the base model is better value with a few upgrades.
Nice bike, very good review, very good location, but they are never mentioned. I would always like to know filming locations also.
Thanks mate all footage was shoot in Madrid
Happy Christmas Sam
I hoping the new 2025 Spec turbo levo has the DJi motor in it or HAS Spec developed something of its own that’s as good as the DJI
My local Spec bike shop that has been developing the new 2025 bike said to me the bike will blow my mind when it’s released and he also said you’ve been talking to him as well
Have a good new year as well and hope the future is bright
Merry Christmas mate let’s see what the future holds
Well im rocking the wild🚀till something really special comes out probably 2026
Yep nothing wrong with the Wild!
id like to see a gps based speed limiter , so you can have a pedelec on the road at 45 and an off road speed of 32/25 kmph depending where you live in the same way DJI fence quad copters from air traffic .
now that is a great idea.
Sam is the best
Thanks Legend
No size small?
yep they should add a small to the line up
Hi Sam, do you have a std Avinox app? As making changes to the motor settings doesn’t seem to make any difference on mine.
For the first 6 months a had the Beta add but for the last 6 months I’ve had the standard one
This would change significantly with the next firmeware update. It would make a good bike perfect.
I am using my Amflow as customer since Oct. 17 (first delivery day in Germany), done 1,300 km with zero issues.
I‘m riding mine since November and had no issues since now. Only the built in inclinometer doesn‘t work good despite multiple calibrations… Any similar experiences?
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Die Erfassung der Höhenmeter (Anstieg/Abstieg) ist sehr zuverlässig.
Die Starthöhe muss nach Luftdruckveränderungen manuell eingegeben werden. Ich gehe davon aus, dass barometrisch gemessen wird.
Die Neigung in % auf dem Amflow-Display zeigt deutlich zu viel an. Dieser Bug ist an DJI gemeldet, identifiziert und soll im nächsten Update berichtigt werden.
@ Höhenmeter verstellt sich bei mir, wenn ich manuell eingebe sehr schnell wieder.
Und in meinem Fall zeigt der Neigungsmesser viel zu wenig an. Bisher max. 22% (entspricht ca. 12°).
Hatte es auch schon an Amflow gemeldet. Werde Mal das Update abwarten und schauen, wie es sich entwickelt. Hoffe es ist dann behoben und kein Hardwareproblem?! Ansonsten mega Bike…
Danke für deine Antwort! Und viel Spaß auf‘m Trail 🤙🏽
Bonjour. .je mesure 1.80 m je dois prendre une taille L ou Xl ?
Merci
I'm 183cm and ride a Large but I do like smaller bikes I could ride a XL or a L
Tanks Sam...i Hope thé bises arrivés in France soon....
No way that I'd outlay that much $ on that bike, especially since it still has a Derailleur.
I understand that... lets see what Pinion comes up with for their next motor
When it comes in a 170-170 29er il get one
Mines 170-150 mullets runs pretty bad ass
Exactly, I bit more squish and a battery extender.... 🍗👍🏼🎄☃️🤗🏔️🏔️
Pour les Français qui veulent le voir et l'essayer, les vélos sont disponibles chez nous dès le 2 janvier
Thanks for the info
I haven't see the cost of this bike. Anyone? It isn't on their website.
starting from 6500 euros
As always, if aftermarket motor builders wanted to make money, they could make them fit existing bikes.
Interchangeability is a zero with EMTB's. This Amflow bikes looks the business though!
Thats a great point imagine they made it fit the ep8...
@@SamsBikes As many shimano motors have been sold, if guys could stick a hot rod motor in imagine how many would sell!....Im still getting by fine with my EP8 but someday..............
Hope they produce a £4k to £5k Hardtail!
Luna X2.5 is still better due to the throttle for sticky situations.
Amazing tech these days!
Yes indeed!
North America, when??
Not sure mid 25 I’ve heard
But where can I buy this bike?
Have Sam guess where you live.
@@vashon100 If unspecified, everyone on the internet is from the country that is the center of the universe. The United States Of God Blessed Murrica. Although really, if there were an online retailed in another country that was legit and trustworthy, I could buy it from them and import it myself I'm sure. Its also kind of obvious, as N America seem to be the one place this bike isn't available yet.
haha
hey David, as it stands right now, you can only buy the Amflow in China Australia Germany and the UK and the first quarter of 2025 I believe they're opening up Spain and France and a few other countries in Europe with America follow later in 2025.
@@SamsBikes hey thank you, I hadn't found that info anywhere. I'll start saving my spare change.
I just wish there would be other real enduro bikes with that system.
I'm sure its coming
So far the battery isn’t performing very well! 50% of battery = 15km with 481 meters of climbing. That with the power reduced to 90nm in trail mode no boosting! How did you connect the camera to the bike?🤔
Really? That’s not right go to your dealer and get it checked
Has anyone asked DJI why there's no size Small offering? It's an otherwise sick bike....
Yes I agree they should add a Small size
10k + see ya
Thats what a good ebike costs in 2024
Six month review or six week???
6 months mate got it in July
@SamsBikes thats good mate! Keep on with your reviews!! 💪💪💪
Love the bike but not the price
Personally, I feel that motors are secondary to batteries and range. I will choose a bike based on massive range not the motor.
An efficient motor will increase the range for no weight penalty. Bigger batteries = more range with more weight and more cost for the battery/bike.
good point... For me range is really important and the fact that this motor has the most power and very very good range makes it a great contender
Range extender should be at least 300wh.
maybe I feel 250 is the sweet spot.
@@SamsBikes Why? You are already adding weight it doesn't make any sense to make that marginal weight gain.
USA release date.?? No one knows anything bout that and USA is 45% of the MTB market.
If you go on the Amflow chat on the site, they say “first half of 2025”.
So June probably.
P@@LlenadeMalo
People cant acept this is the best 24/25 ebike motor.
accept vs acept
@ si como sea tu entendistes
its the best motor 100%
Please tell me it's not all to good to be true 🤞✌️
But they gave it you probalby paid you so its hard to believe anything you say on it. srry man
Not sure you know my channel you should ask around!
Specialized here ::: cough cough bring it
DJI makes cheap Chinese drones
That things noiser than my gen4 Bosch, il wait and see what the long term reliability is like, for me I'm waiting for the IMG sick of snapping chains..
You think it’s noisy? Interesting
Kudos, best review I've seen so far interesting that it's 22kg+ with a burly build, I have heard the frame feels flexy What's you opinion?.
I’m 85kg and I’m sure if your 100 plus your going to get some flex! It’s totally fine for me
@@vaughanboyce3702here in Australia a mechanic in Newcastle has shimmed the rear triangle with some spacers and said it’s noticeably better in the rear.
@@barrakingbeatz7794Shim it where? At the pivots?
Yak yak yak.
Not wot we want
Thanks 🙏
No discuss about battery range wattage...its important to choose a smaller or bigger battery😊
There is a whole range section
Don't get me wrong it's my next ride
Haha 🤣 the motor is amazing