He is using a self drilling screw which is both a drill and self tapping screw. Even though he keeps using the term self tapping when he is actually holding a self drilling screw, he is still correct because a self drilling screw is also a self tapping screw. If he was using an actual self tapping screw he would need to drill a pilot hole.
Apparently either the retailers or manufacturers make the tapping vs drilling label even more complicated. I have 2 different packages of self-drilling screws that were purchased at a big box store and both are labeled self-tapping. I must admit, I've always called the screws with the drill bit type of point "self taping". I guess, technically, KingMetalsInc and I were both wrong but I understood and agree with his intended point….. vs the other point. Thumbs up!
was mounting j hooks and rings inside my cargo trailer so that I mount kayaks to the walls, popped so many heads of these screws off. Glad I found the vid, bout to take down everything I did and add etrac. So more mounting.
Well, mostly a sharp point. But there are several types of self tapping/threading screws - NOT self-drilling, There's self-piercing (the really sharp ones). Type 17 point, mostly for wood. Type A - thread forming screw for use in thin metal .015 to .050 thick. Used with drilled, punched or nested holes. Type B - thread forming screw with spaced threads and a blunt point with incomplete entering threads for use in heavier metal .050 to .200 thick. Type 1 and type 23- thread cutting screw with machine screw thread with a blunt tapered point, having multi-cutting edges and chip removal cavities. There are several other thread forming & tapping screws, but likely none that would be seen by the average joe installer. I really don't like self-drilling, they do not make an accurate pilot hole, and it varies greatly depending on the material being drilled by the screw. Buy some drill bits. And a real drill that won't burn up.
If you’re screwing an aluminum piece to a steel piece make sure the pieces are held together or just drill a hole through the top that’s bigger than the screw. The aluminum will bind up.
Right where the Miniature blades are on those screws I would get that size of a bit and pre-drilled a hole and do some practicing on some metal first find the same thickness anyhow but yes I’ve had them snap and it sucks getting them off you can use a lock pliers and turned them counter clockwise to get them back out unless they snap level in there
There is a big difference between self drilling and self tapping screws. You're displaying self drilling and calling them self tapping. Very confusing.
I always use a Dewalt screw barrel starter or a Cobalt 1/8" drill bit for a pilot hole - on a separate drill driver. Except on very short self tapping screws. Also, I have found that 1/2" self tapping lath screws are great for pilot holes heavy gauge sheet metal. They saves on drill bit wear.
I find it easier to pre-drill the hole and then let the self tapping screw tap the threads in the hole. Also my self tapping screws are phillips heads so good luck drilling with them. As it stands I need drilling oil and a nice cobalt drill bit to drill holes in my sheet metal so don't see how self tapping screws with phillips heads could be any better. EDIT: Seems I'm right. Self tapping screws need a pilot hole.
As others have said, you’re wrong. Not insubstantially either. Self-tapping vs. self-drilling is a big difference. Self drilling screws have severe limitations which people should know about. That is where self-tapping screws save the day.
Always have a bar of soap handy, to scrape across the threads before screwing in. This reduces the Friction/Heat generated, so less chance of Head breakage (Scraped across a solid candle, is just as good) 🧼 🕯
I have had bad experience using stainless steel screws. The threads get crushed during the self-tapping. So in my experience you should pre-drill/tap with regular/galvanized. Your screws look like DIN 7504, however there are other self-tapping like DIN 7976. Do you know any thing about maximum thickness of the metal for various screw-types?
Hi question, i have a pellet stove. Theres a screw hole thats stripped. Its a hole that holds the screw that holds the glass tightly in. I cant screw it tightly so air gets in and causes a lousy burn. What self tapping screw material would you recommend i use to screw into cast iron? Ty
@@high_fructose_corn_syrup I think both DIN 7504 and DIN 7976 would do the job. Just make sure to look up how much you should predrill for the materiale. How thick is the materiale? Would it make sense to make threads, with a thread tapper?
Great little bit of advice, I'm about to finish mounting my new inner fenders on my jeep , the last 6 holes in have to use self tapping screws, cheers man
Can you reuse the same screw back in the same hole in the stove pipe, I have a stove pipe that someone put two or three different screws in an 5 foot section and I have a hard time find good short tapping screws ever since the great shit shutdown almost two years ago, I want to just reuse the same screw because I can never find the right sizes now
Could I use these self tapping or drilling screws to go into an ibeam? I have a centre support for a curtain rod….there’s an ibeam behind the drywall. Is there a way?
Exactly, amazing this guy has zero clue what a self taping screw is. He is showing a self Drilling screw, even covers you don't need to drill a pilot hole.
New sub here. Thanks for the video. Self tapping screws are fun (at least when you know what you are doing). I have hardened metal in my garage and the self tapping screws are like I say “fun”.
I need to screw 2cm pallet planks to 3cm garden fence Can you advise me on what are the best screws to use for this project Nails are not an option btw want a more secure fix I have looked at so many screen's dizzy so any help will be much appreciated
Any advice for tapping into fence poles? It seems to always slide off when I apply pressure... It's about 100 degrees today and it made me angry enough to punch a baby. 😅 Happened on a flat metal mount too. Maybe I suck at holding them straight.
In your opinion will these work for mounting a Snow Blower Impeller kit and I assume using an impact wrench (drill) is going to snap off the heads as well.
Ah... Now I know where my mistake was. I was trying to use a flat head bit. Problem solved. Wasted about a half hour trying to tap some screws into some gutter guards. Since watching I got 6 in in about ten minutes. Then it started raining.
You could, but rattle guns are next level in terms of torque, so go easy on it. You also run the risk of stripping the thread as it's going in, which will make the bond weaker.
You're welcome! We have self tapping screws here: www.kingmetals.com/Catalog/CatalogListing.aspx?CatalogId=c39&CatalogDetailId=562&NSM=Y We have the Power Bits & Adapters here: www.kingmetals.com/Catalog/CatalogListing.aspx?CatalogId=c39&CatalogDetailId=564&NSM=Y
excellent toot vid, no long drawn out Hollywoodesque lead-in. Just straight to the point, not repeating yourself, etc. Good job, I have subscribed.
He is using a self drilling screw which is both a drill and self tapping screw. Even though he keeps using the term self tapping when he is actually holding a self drilling screw, he is still correct because a self drilling screw is also a self tapping screw.
If he was using an actual self tapping screw he would need to drill a pilot hole.
This...
Apparently either the retailers or manufacturers make the tapping vs drilling label even more complicated. I have 2 different packages of self-drilling screws that were purchased at a big box store and both are labeled self-tapping. I must admit, I've always called the screws with the drill bit type of point "self taping". I guess, technically, KingMetalsInc and I were both wrong but I understood and agree with his intended point….. vs the other point. Thumbs up!
There IS a difference between self-tapping and self-drilling screws, you should mention that.
was mounting j hooks and rings inside my cargo trailer so that I mount kayaks to the walls, popped so many heads of these screws off. Glad I found the vid, bout to take down everything I did and add etrac. So more mounting.
May want to edit the title to self drill screws. Self tapping is different and usually when they already have a hole.
Great 3rd tip to not over torque.
Good video. However, the screw you are using is a self drilling screw as the package states. A self tapping screw has a sharp pointed tip.
Wrong
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Andrew Posfai he is certainly right. Google it.
Most screws, aside from machine screws, are self tapping, in fact.
But.. Commenter is correct. These are not only self tapping, but self drilling
Well, mostly a sharp point. But there are several types of self tapping/threading screws - NOT self-drilling, There's self-piercing (the really sharp ones).
Type 17 point, mostly for wood.
Type A - thread forming screw for use in thin metal .015 to .050 thick. Used with drilled, punched or nested holes.
Type B - thread forming screw with spaced threads and a blunt point with incomplete entering threads for use in heavier metal .050 to .200 thick.
Type 1 and type 23- thread cutting screw with machine screw thread with a blunt tapered point, having multi-cutting edges and chip removal cavities.
There are several other thread forming & tapping screws, but likely none that would be seen by the average joe installer.
I really don't like self-drilling, they do not make an accurate pilot hole, and it varies greatly depending on the material being drilled by the screw. Buy some drill bits. And a real drill that won't burn up.
If you’re screwing an aluminum piece to a steel piece make sure the pieces are held together or just drill a hole through the top that’s bigger than the screw. The aluminum will bind up.
Right where the Miniature blades are on those screws I would get that size of a bit and pre-drilled a hole and do some practicing on some metal first find the same thickness anyhow but yes I’ve had them snap and it sucks getting them off you can use a lock pliers and turned them counter clockwise to get them back out unless they snap level in there
There is a big difference between self drilling and self tapping screws. You're displaying self drilling and calling them self tapping. Very confusing.
Cory Williams not always, depends what material the screw is going into. However, no harm in drilling a pilot hole of you want to do so.
They are self tapping screws.
@davidborquez9566 do you know what tapping is ? Do you know what drilling is?
Wow I looked this shit up and never knew there was a difference lol
I always use a Dewalt screw barrel starter or a Cobalt 1/8" drill bit for a pilot hole - on a separate drill driver.
Except on very short self tapping screws.
Also, I have found that 1/2" self tapping lath screws are great for pilot holes heavy gauge sheet metal. They saves on drill bit wear.
I used a Dewalt impact drill yesterday and screws did not go through. :(
I find it easier to pre-drill the hole and then let the self tapping screw tap the threads in the hole. Also my self tapping screws are phillips heads so good luck drilling with them. As it stands I need drilling oil and a nice cobalt drill bit to drill holes in my sheet metal so don't see how self tapping screws with phillips heads could be any better. EDIT: Seems I'm right. Self tapping screws need a pilot hole.
As others have said, you’re wrong. Not insubstantially either. Self-tapping vs. self-drilling is a big difference. Self drilling screws have severe limitations which people should know about. That is where self-tapping screws save the day.
Always have a bar of soap handy, to scrape across the threads before screwing in. This reduces the Friction/Heat generated, so less chance of Head breakage (Scraped across a solid candle, is just as good) 🧼 🕯
Thanks, after stripping my nail and looking through 30 videos I finally found this one that made sense
I have had bad experience using stainless steel screws. The threads get crushed during the self-tapping. So in my experience you should pre-drill/tap with regular/galvanized.
Your screws look like DIN 7504, however there are other self-tapping like DIN 7976. Do you know any thing about maximum thickness of the metal for various screw-types?
Hi question, i have a pellet stove. Theres a screw hole thats stripped. Its a hole that holds the screw that holds the glass tightly in. I cant screw it tightly so air gets in and causes a lousy burn. What self tapping screw material would you recommend i use to screw into cast iron? Ty
@@high_fructose_corn_syrup I think both DIN 7504 and DIN 7976 would do the job. Just make sure to look up how much you should predrill for the materiale.
How thick is the materiale? Would it make sense to make threads, with a thread tapper?
Great little bit of advice, I'm about to finish mounting my new inner fenders on my jeep , the last 6 holes in have to use self tapping screws, cheers man
Small point. The magnet on your drill bit won’t work with stainless steel fasteners.
My "Stainless steel" screws from China stick just fine :D
1:03 He displays a box which says, “self drilling,” but continues to use the phrase, “self tapping.”
Great video man. Quick precise to the point. Thank You just subscribed
There’s a difference between self tappers and self drillers, in this video you gave three tips for self tappers using self drilling screws.
Can you reuse the same screw back in the same hole in the stove pipe, I have a stove pipe that someone put two or three different screws in an 5 foot section and I have a hard time find good short tapping screws ever since the great shit shutdown almost two years ago, I want to just reuse the same screw because I can never find the right sizes now
"Then you're kinda screwed." Good oneeeee haha :P
Could I use these self tapping or drilling screws to go into an ibeam? I have a centre support for a curtain rod….there’s an ibeam behind the drywall. Is there a way?
Allen head bolts make good sockets for self tapping screws.
Self drilling screws are very strong
Broken few only because on 1/2 beam thick
This guy would play as the action lab guy in action lab the movie
You are talking about "self drilling screw" not "self tapping screw". And you should use an impact driver, not a drill. :)
Exactly, amazing this guy has zero clue what a self taping screw is. He is showing a self Drilling screw, even covers you don't need to drill a pilot hole.
I was really hoping for a demonstration
What screw would you use to attach the bracket of a fixed glass door on your fiberglass bathtub ?
New sub here. Thanks for the video. Self tapping screws are fun (at least when you know what you are doing). I have hardened metal in my garage and the self tapping screws are like I say “fun”.
I need to screw 2cm pallet planks to 3cm garden fence
Can you advise me on what are the best screws to use for this project
Nails are not an option btw want a more secure fix
I have looked at so many screen's dizzy so any help will be much appreciated
That is supposed to say screws
Bloody predict a text lol
Any advice for tapping into fence poles? It seems to always slide off when I apply pressure... It's about 100 degrees today and it made me angry enough to punch a baby. 😅
Happened on a flat metal mount too. Maybe I suck at holding them straight.
Tap a punch into the pole with a hammer. Make a small pilot punch hole so the bit doesn’t slip.
In your opinion will these work for mounting a Snow Blower Impeller kit and I assume using an impact wrench (drill) is going to snap off the heads as well.
How do I screw the vehicle inner wall to apply plywood for RV?
Here in Oz any screw sold at Bunnings are all made in China and are absolute garbage , I also agree with all yr tips.
You might want to change the title to self-drilling screws. Thanks
When you only get Phillips head self tapping screws for furniture and you don't have a drill.
Hitachi tools are pretty nice.
Hopefully by now you know that screws that do the drilling for you are called self drilling.... drill vs tap
The box said self drilling screws are you sure you are not talking about self drilling screws. Plus self tappers need a pilot hole.
Thanks for the video! Lots of useful information! #liked #subscribed
Just found out these exist. No what am i gonna do with all these lame-o regular screws!?
1:25 will this screw into 1/4" hard steel like the flat side of fence T-post?
Bosch, Dewalt, Millw., Makita, if yu want a drill thats not junk
Love the title lol
Is there any sort of anker to use on metal?
Thank you!
You're welcome!
If i need to remove a self tapping metal screw should i use the same hole or make a new one?
Ah... Now I know where my mistake was. I was trying to use a flat head bit. Problem solved. Wasted about a half hour trying to tap some screws into some gutter guards. Since watching I got 6 in in about ten minutes. Then it started raining.
Can you use a rattle gun to drill them in?
You could, but rattle guns are next level in terms of torque, so go easy on it. You also run the risk of stripping the thread as it's going in, which will make the bond weaker.
3:02 i see what you did there😂
Super helpful! Thank you!
You're welcome!
SHITACHI say no more
What do you recommend for drywall?
Ummm... drywall screws??????
3:05 hehehehehehehehe
sometimes simple advice is the best advice Thanks for the tips where is best place to buy them and the bits ?
You're welcome! We have self tapping screws here: www.kingmetals.com/Catalog/CatalogListing.aspx?CatalogId=c39&CatalogDetailId=562&NSM=Y
We have the Power Bits & Adapters here: www.kingmetals.com/Catalog/CatalogListing.aspx?CatalogId=c39&CatalogDetailId=564&NSM=Y
Why thow your tools around
Wow hitachi makes drills? Japanese drill. Wow
These are self drilling screws not self tapping.
But...those are self drilling screws.
This is a self drilling screw not self tapping
Those are Self Drilling, sare you sure you know what you are talking about??
Could have said all this in about 1 minute
You are really impatient. Your teachers must love you. lol
@@freedhoelay5953 It's not my job in this World to make sure everyone loves me and is my friend. I'm more secure than that to really care.
Mego Stop make your own video Miss Negative Nancy 😭
I learned nothing today
Ok Casey Neistat wanna be. Don't need to throw around your hardware because Casey treats his gear like shit.
I DIDN'T CLICK THIS TO SEE YOUR FACE. Get it out of there...