I stayed with my XM4 since I thought the XM5 was not improved enough and even had a drawback by not being able to fold it. I would like to see a comparison to the Sennheiser Momentum 4’s that are due out any day. I’ve heard they’re better in sound quality to the XM5, though not as good with noise cancellation and costs $50 less than the XM5.
I partially regret buying it, it is too big for my head, i did some DIY, and it fits now, but still, it looks silly. I loved the XM3 bass heavy sound, it almost completly dissapeared from the XM5. The case is really big, although the new Sennheiser momentum 4 has the same design and case... I bought a momentum 3, it has more bass, more soundstage, it feels more open? But i heard the momentum 4 sound signature is somehat flat, it doesnt have the bass the 3 has. I understand that audiophiles love flat sound, but these are bluetooth consumer headphones, it should be fun to listen to. Altought this is subjective, i like the momentum 3s For the price of the XM5 in my country, i am not satified, it cost 155K in my currency, while the momentum 114K, and it sounds better, but the features are better on the XM5. I think the controls are perfect, it is responsive, i like how the music doesnt stop on changing ANC to Ambient, it just beeps while you can still hear everything. The swiping also works great. I really miss it while using the Sennheiser. If it would fit better i think i would be satisfied. I tried the bose as well it was comfortable, but i felt like it lacked bass, that is why i choose the Sennheiser over the bose.
I got the XM5's over the XM4's for the better call quality since I use mine for meetings quite often. First pair of noise-canclling headphones and I'm really happy with them.
@@OK-cy2mc I also use my XM5s for meetings, i forgot to mention, it is the best. No one hears the cars, or the dogs barking, nothing. And also i can hear my voice quite good. Momentum for music, and XM5 for calls.
The XM5 case is fine. Like, its seriously fine lol. The way RUclipsrs complain about it you'd think they were lugging an extra backpack full of bricks around.
Both are fine. XM4 is more compact...softer edges on cans...also (imo) the headband was a serious downgrade in ergonomics; xm4 had flat band but the xm5's had this subpar rod shape. My vote: "no thanks". I returned my xm5's, and kept my xm4's. (I hope xm6 goes back to the superior xm4 design. Luckily the xm4 were still a great audio quality competitor to the xm5's.
Had both, in my opinion the xm5’s are better in almost every category. The only things going for the Xm4 are the price and portability. I really don’t care about the case size or the fact that they don’t fold when they are this good
I don't understand the case thing at all. I wear my headphones 24/7 (yes I sleep with them on) and if I am not listening to them I just push the cups behind my ears.
Had both, the XM5 seems a little brighter and sounds a tiny bit better with more separation and detail. Mic quality is also vastly improved on the XM5 on both ends.
I have a very different opinion, I don't believe the most important quality on my headphones is the size of the carrying case. I think the most important thing is the sound quality, ANC, and overall fit and comfort, witch in my opinion the xm5 improved all of these aspects from the xm4. It would be nice for the xm5 to be foldable and have a smaller case, but if you have the extra money I would say the xm5 is more worth your money than the xm4.
One of the big advantages for the XM5s for me was that the noise cancelling didn't make me feel sick... yes you read that right; noise cancelling in Sony's XM4s and other brands (most notably Sennheiser Momentum) made me feel nauseated/disorientated and this was just trying them out in the shop! The XM5s have been the first high-end headphones where the noise cancellation didn't do that. This had been an issue which had stopped me from buying any headphones for a number of years.
@@seraephinatarriela4611 I'd only braved the AirPods (not pro) for the same reason; you can try full size headphones in stores, but you can't try AirPods Pro before you buy. Having said that, I am tempted with a pair of Pros when the 2's come out. But yes, the M5s are still not giving me any problems a month later. Give them a try in the store; you'll find out straight away.
@@colebox6275 You can rest them inside a Sony store first. I tried it there because I was afraid of the same thing and wanted to check if the noise cancelling was actually that good. And they are.
I have owned both. The XM4's have better audio quality in my opinion. The only complaint I ever had with these is related to the plastic creaking noises that are common with the XM4's. The XM5 design did eliminate that issue. If you never owned the XM4's you will love the XM5's.
@Sheepish Lord 100% the XM5 stomp all over the XM4 for sound quality. Much more relaxed with more upper mid information and much clearer sound with less booming, muddy bass.
@@jarekharmening8993 Also agree. XM4 sound like a bass cannon to me, ever other frequency is like you’re underwater. XM5’s are way superior, but I guess people like that excessive bass nowadays
XM5s are simply amazing, I bought them being fully aware of the case. They´re light, sound is great, call quality wonderful and they look fine. Granted, they're a bit expensive but as Mark put it, if you fancy it and wish to pay for it, go ahead. Regardless, Sony is a great brand so almost any Sony product will meet you needs. I would not upgrade from the XM4s though....I did not have the XM4s.
Me too... XM5 is the first headphones I ever owned it it was really worth it for me... The sound quality and comfort and everything you just mention are all great. I upgraded from the XM4 earbuds but yeah I wouldn't recommend upgrading from the XM4 headphones as the XM5 is only marginally better.
@@notme6753 I upgraded from the XM4 headphones for the improvement in sound quality, which I’d call much more than marginal. Totally worth it if that’s your priority.
@@notme6753 Are you kidding? That’s the best part and precisely why I upgraded. The XM5 is still punchy but allows much more low-end detail - more of the music - to come through.
I have both the XM4 and XM5. The big difference is that the ANC on the XM4 has a slight hissing sound and is not completely quiet. Whereas the XM5 has no hissing sound. Sony finally figured out how to remove it. This is a big differentiator for people who want some real silence.
I read somewhere that the ANC on XM5 is set to automatic, and that it will not always be set on the strongest setting. Have you experienced anything similar with the XM5?
That was what I noticed when I bought some XM4s and occasionally wanted ANC with no music - ie just Pure Silence. Sony said the hiss was a fault and I sent them back. I am so glad you've said that the XM5 have no hiss. It's Prime Day today and my choice vs Momentum 4 is now easier. [Edit] bought the XM5s. They do have a hiss but it's quiet and almost soothing, like brown noise or low frequency rain
“Super-low sounds below 100Hz are blocked out more through the WH-1000XM5, as are midrange and high-pitched frequencies. Sony’s XM5 headphones do way more to block out unpredictable sounds like a mechanical keyboard or slamming cabinets than the XM4 headphones. That said, the WH-1000XM4 has a minor leg up on the newer XM5 when it comes to 120-600Hz frequencies, and renders them 1-5dB quieter than the XM5.”
The XM5s not folding is good imo. The underside of the hinges on my XM4s started cracking from normal every day use. Fewer folding/moving parts means likely greater longevity
So true. My xm3 had a crack in the right ear. And that was pretty expected due to folding. The same applies for the sunglasses. More folding more cracking.
I've tried out both multiple times before finally deciding to go for the xm5s. The audio felt much cleaner and crisper with them using the same exact EQ for the same songs in the same environment. Not saying the XM4s were bad sounding, I was really convinced and almost bought them once, but the 5s sounded better to me :/
I love them. Used them for about 5k hours at this point. Still great battery life, hardly any glitches if kept updated, still an ANC superpower, and not a single scratch on them whilst NEVER USING THE CASE. I throw them in my backseat when I get in the car and they still look brand new. COULDN’T BE HAPPIER!
I had the XM4 in 2020/2021, but sold them because I wasn't happy with the audio quality, and how low the volume was. I got the XM5 at launch, so 5 months ago, and I've been so happy with them. The design is very sleek, and I actually prefer that they don't fold, since the hinges are quite prone to damage. I don't really travel much, and when I do, the case fits easily in my backpack. They're lighter and more comfortable. I also find the audio quality better, and they're louder than the XM4, which is exactly what I wanted
The more moving parts, the greater the risk of damage. Therefore, the flexible headband is a big advantage for me. I also like the minimalist design. Instead of carrying a case everywhere, you can put them in a smaller bag.
Had both, I do prefer the look and the touch of the XM4, but when using for calls and Teams meetings, the XM5 is the king, noise cancellation is better in the 5
One thing I want to add is that Sony’s noise canceling with helping with my autism has helped with my behavior issues a little bit. The noise cancellation has helped my brain basically reset from sensory overload and helped it recover a lot more. I think it’s because the headphones are the same shape, as what we called gun phones, which are headphones that are used when people shoot guns. This shape really helps, especially with the way my ears are. I love how soft the leather is and this is gonna sound strange but as a blind person, I love the smell of the leather actually. Like the smell of a new Plastic leather book cover it’s like the thick plastic type of leather used in three ring binders except the softer version. Honestly gives you a lot of cushion and that is my favorite part of them. This isn’t me just praising them because they worked well for me, this is me telling you, how they’ve basically helped a lot. They’ve changed my life! Just kidding. But for somebody who uses them for a medically diagnosed disability they have really helped my brain decompress, which is really helped with my overall behavior in general. It’s helped with my stress level. I think if I could find the right words in a less long-winded explanation, I would, tell Sony thank you for making a pair of headphones that works well for people with autism and help them. I really think more people with autism should have access to sound or Sony if you’re looking for not bone conduction but traditional headphones. Honestly, they won’t regret it.what all see if we can get medical companies to recognize the need for these kind of headphones as an actual need for people with disabilities such as autism so that people can get the help they need. And the devices they need. I was lucky that I was financially able to pay for it but what about other people that can’t and can’t work and need this kind of thing? I guess they’re left out in the cold where the current system is. Forgot to say another way that they’ve held in another reason I’ve noticed it is because I’ve started listening to music a lot more again and singing a lot more again. I think the reason that I hadn’t been listening to a lot of music or singing as much is because, I have been more stressed out and wasn’t mentally able to concentrate on anything other than my stress. I still end up concentrating on my stress, but not nearly as much and that is allowed me to be much happier to the point where I am doing things that I haven’t done in a long time like singing again of my own free will and wanting to record my music and play my music again. I also want to say thanks to Sony for bringing back my love of music again or at least helping me recognize how much I love music.
@@Ashton351 the WH 1000 XM five. My earbuds that I use are the Sony Link buds S. The XM fives that I use are the headphones not the earbuds. Like I’ve said before amazing headphones and I highly recommend them. Same thing with the link buds. although to be fair, I was coming from other companies that didn’t cancel noise very well except soundboard, which is the only other one I can find canceled noise as well as the Sony ones. I haven’t tried Bose, but I almost did. I mean sound core. Not soundboard.
This review was great, I ordered these and got nervous because everyone was saying the XM4s were better and thought I made a mistake but you really help calm my nerves.
I have the XM4s and the AirPods Max. The Sony pair I use for travel thanks to the fact that it folds and the case is so good. The Apple pair I use for audiobooks, as when I’m laying in bed at night and shifting around, I can’t accidentally pause playback, adjust volume, advance or go back 30 seconds, etc. from hitting the edge of them.
Your original review and this follow up convinced me to wait for the XM4s to go on sale especially since I wasn't sure if I wanted a huge headphone case or imo slightly bulkier headphones but I also didn't want to fork out more $ for the Bose since it was my first time spending so much $ on a pair of headphones. I'm glad I waited, I love the XM4s! Ever since I got them, they hardly ever leave my head! Thank you for all of your hard work! ❤️
I bought the xm4 January of this year for $220 (converted to MYR) brand new. They sound good and anc is good too but the clamping force hurts the back of my ears after wearing it for more than 1 hour. I gave it to my wife after she tried using it when we flew back from the US. Good thing I have the WF xm4 during the flight. The xm5 went on sale 3 weeks ago for $324 here in Malaysia. It feels more comfortable for me and tweaking the EQ does the job for good sound quality. For me, comfort should be 1st to be considered. The xm5 works well for me
I bought the XM5 this week. eBay had a 10% discount on a make an offer to bring the prices down to Au$405 or about £200. So price is no longer an issue. I wanted the occasional travel and a headphone to link to my new LG C2 smart Tv. They do that well. No regrets here.
This is exactly what I wanted to hear! I was not able to decide between these two, I wanted the XM5 because they're the newest, but for me, that I travel a lot, and carry a lot of work stuff on my backpack , the XM4 are perfect because of the case, more portable, great quality and cheaper! Thank you for helping me decide!
Thanks for the review!, I'm deciding about to buy XM5 on the black week for 305Euro. I really like the way you explained things compactly. but super clear and your voice is so soothing to hear honestly.
Personally, I have a love hate relationship with the XM5's. Since having them I've been playing with the EQ and constantly switching the clear bass toggle. Sometimes they really wow me and sound amazing. Other times at full volume they tend to fall apart on some bass heavy songs. I like the design, comfort and form factor. I think the case is really stylish and sleek. I've been really on the fence about returning the XM5's but everytime I think about returning them they give me reasons not to. I've came from the XM4's and not once did I have to adjust the EQ settings. I run the 4's on "Excitment" sound signature. Not once has the 4's gave me any issues or doubts and I've had them since October of 2020.
The 700’s were £170 on Prime Day 🤩… you can even sleep in the 700’s… Bose hit a home run with the 700, if below £200 anywhere it’s a major major go as someone else says. I have the XM5s and love them as their noise cancelling is exceptional. I find them very peaceful and comfortable. Great video, thank you .
Bose blows and jbl I think Sony still stands as the number 1 in headphones today that’s just my opinion and I have owned both even my 75 year old mother agrees and she is very picky
i had a pair of XM2s for a long time and loved them and upgraded to the XM5 when they came out. I absolutely love them. I actually prefer that they can't be folded like the old XMs as that hinge would get loose. Even with the larger case and lack of a folding hinge, the XM5's remain my ATF headphones given their lightness, comfort and the sound quality and ANC is more than suitable for my needs.
I never owned a MX series before rather than MX5 I purchased by the 1st of October. I'm super hyped and amazed on how good this are. But honestly, you are absolutely right when it comes into that folding thing. The box is kinda big and not that handy as the MX4 looks like. Overall, i am super happy. Cheers dear friend. 🍻
@@Ojedit Amazingly good! Sincerely. One tip I'd suggest you is if you have a fiber cloath to wipe the soft leather after usage, no matter the kind of headphones you are using. But MX5 overall has been absolutely a blast! Especially walking by on Toronto by busy streets, that Noise cancellation works just perfect! 🙂
For me, the XM5s are better for two reasons: 1. Microphone quality is far superior for calls. 2. I'd like to use these while I'm in my car with the windows down and there is no more white noise. The XM4s had this horrible white noise that was just unbearable to use with the wind blowing and that does not exist on the XM5s. The sound quality really doesn't matter that much to me because I never use these for music. Only for podcasts and RUclips videos. I use my sennheiser's for music.
1. No one cares about call quality when buying headphones. If you're serious about that, get a microphone 2. Who tf uses headphones while on a car 😂, it's unsafe and that 90% of cars have, you know, speakers?
My pair just arrived a few days ago and was originallyt debating on getting either the XM5 or the XM4s but decided go for the XM5 due to the microphone improvements over the previous model (based on reviews) which is a big deal factor for me for going into meetings and such. The long-wear comfort is excellent and the sound is great once you tweak the EQ to your liking, however, I wish Sony would do a software update wherein the strength of the noise cancellation can be controlled instead of it always being set to "adaptive" - this is just being nitpicky since the NC on the these are great out of the box for regular use (will be testing them out on a flight soon). Overall, generally happy with my pair since I've been wanting to own something from this series for a few years now and my only complain would be how they aren't as portable. In terms of use, I've been wearing the XM5s everywhere except the gym (no IPX rating) - I'm most probably going to stick with my Airpods Pro for this since they're more portable, comfortable, and practical for that type of activity anyway.
hey~ thanks for your insightful review. How long do you use your XM5? is it around 8hrs a day? I am looking for headphones that is comfortable for a long period of use. Thank you 😊
@@jinriepark7868 Hi! I'm using them 5 times a week 8h/day, basically all the day in the office. They are comfortable, especially my head and ears are on the bigger side and I don't have any issues with them. I've tried XM3 before and I was noticing some discomfort around my ears after about 4h wearing them.
Heyy! Great comment! I'm thinking in getting the xm5, I didnt own the xm4, but I tried them once. After hours at looking at comments my main concern is the lack of the option to control the strenght on the ANC, is that a big deal breaker for you, or do you reckon it is barely noticeble after updates? My main goal for the purchase is the ANC itself so Im wondering if I should go for the xm4 instead because of it? Also I wear glasses, it might be a factor due to the different shape cups. Thank you hopefully someone can help out.
I just bought these yesterday. In the store they sound great. At home they learn how to sound good. My biggest issues are the ear cup size, the head band size, and the ear pads. The price also. I paid with tax 446. These should be no more that 299 in my opinion because of the materials. I get the vegan leather and recycled plastic but I can say that my XM3s are the best headphones I have ever owned. The XM4s are ok. They sound a little muddy but are almost like the XM3s. The XM5s beat the Bose 700 hands down on noise cancelling and sound. I still haven't decided on keeping the XM5s but they do sound better than they did yesterday.
I feel the XM4's stereo separation feels like the objects are a bit distant. But in XM5, objects feel a bit near, which I think is because of 30mm drivers. XM4's audio output feels like the spectrum has been widened. Anyone else experiencing the same thing?
I sold my XM4 to get the XM5 and I am not sure if I regret my decision. The main advantage of the XM5 is that it is FAR better than the XM4 for (video)calls. The main disadvantage for me is the step back in comfort. The XM5 causes me pain on my head when I wear them for too long and I never had that with the XM4s. The XM4s also sound a bit more impactful (probably because of the bigger driver), even though the XM5 has a slightly more balanced audio profile to my ears. Also, the XM5s are a clear step back in practicality with its bigger case and lack of foldability.
I have both the XM4s and the XM5s and I also have the Airpods Max - both the ANC and sound quality of the XM5 is better than both. Design wise, I actually prefer the XM5s since folding them all the time doesnt only add time but also puts a strain on the headphones themselves. The case doesnt matter to me as they both take space in a backpack anyway. Regarding audio quality, the XM4s in comparison sound MUDDY with heavier base too. Whoever claims that the XM4 sound better or have better ANC must be in denial
@@martyking5603 gotta be honest with you... Airpods max sounds better not because they are better in sound quality, but because they are tweaked nicely. If you adjust the EQs on the XM5s or any other Hi-fi headsets, they are most likely going to sound better than the airpods max. But if you are a apple user, forget anything I've just said, since they do have better connectivity I believe? and apple product dont support Ldac, which is one of the main features that made the sony headsets sound amazing.
"both the ANC and sound quality of the XM5 is better than both" Having watched many reviews which showcase the ANC (where you can hear what the ANC does) XM4 nudge XM5's in terms of ANC - you could argue that they are actually better in certain scenarios, it might be personal preference but to me XM4's seem to do a better job at eliminating frequencies which I don't like. Plus XM5 don't allow for permanent ANC setting, you need to rely on AI deciding what to do when the best would be to let user set ANC to max and let it sit there.
I did a comparison between Sony XM5, Apple Air pods Max and Bowers&Wilkins Px7 S2. And at the end I ordered the B&W Px7 S2 cans as they catered my tastes the best. I was seriously disappointed about XM5 sound quality and the way the shallow pads pressed my glasses. But as it is blatantly obvious, headphones are one the most subjective pieces of tech you can find, no one should cast “the final verdict” as it’s completely up to you. What I would love see is your reaction and evaluation on the B&Ws latest offering in this regard.
I used to have the XM4s and I loved them, but especially as someone who listens to audiobooks more than music, the XM5s are a massive step up because of the difference in noise cancellation quality.
Awesome review Mark. I have the xm4 myself. When you finally do a review for the M4 from Senny, can you also compare them to the xm4? I'm wondering if I should make that upgrade or not
People always complaining about the case. I’ve had mine for a month now, and they never been in the case yet lol Just traveled to Memphis last week, and my XM5’s was on my head the whole time. Don’t need a case if you’re wearing them 😎 They sound incredible, noise cancellation is phenomenal, they are very comfortable. Definitely worth every penny.
I was looking for headphones that I can pack in a backpack and take to and from school with me. As a graduate student on campus from 9 am to 9 pm I wanted wireless headphones that sound good and can be packed into a backpack so I can use them while studying. The active noise canceling is a bonus. I have not tried sennheisers (reviews are typically pretty bad for them for whatever reason). Bose doesn't sound like they have the best bass, typically people recommend sony for that. Regardless, bose tend to be quite a bit more expensive. I do have the xf4s I used to use at work, which has beyond impressed for battery life, connectivity, and noise cancelation in ear buds. I have a mdr1 headset from Sony I am currently using which sounds phenomenal. The mdr1 wire is incredibly short and it does not cone with a travel case, which means the cushions get extra pressure constantly while packed. So I am familiar with sony sound and how to tweak them as needed with eq, and the xm4s from price and functions I need seem better.
I never really liked the XM4's default sound profile. Always sounded so muddy. I was pleasantly surprised to find a much more refined sound in the XM5, getting it much closer to the AirPods Max level in my opinion. The thing I don't really like though it's the headband comfort.
If you tweak the EQ via the Sony app, it will be waaay better than APMax. Before buying my XM5 (replacing XM3), I tried the APMax because I was thinking of getting them instead but I wasn't blown away by their sound, I even preferred the sound of my old XM3 (after tweaking the EQ).
Agreed Bruno! The XM5s have much more natural, clear, and textured bass than my XM4 and XM3. Still not quite audiophile quality (and I still have to turn the bass down a notch or two) but a big improvement. More spaciousness in the highs, too, and better imaging - especially with ANC turned off. In that regard, they’re perfect travel headphones: they do ANC well when you need it on the plane or train, and do great sound when relaxing in your quiet hotel room.
I had the nc 700, then xm4, then xm5. Nc 700 sounded better than xm4 and xm5 sound significantly better than xm4. Xm4 sounded muddy and bass was strong but bloated. The mic quality is the real factor for me tho. Xm5 are unbelievable. Great for work meetings. Nc 700 were great for their time but xm5 now my fav.
You're 100% right about the case, and well done for detailing just how much the bigger case SUCKS. I was so looking forward to upgrading from my XM3s, but honestly I'm just gonna wait another year or two to see if Sony create a better version like before, or stick with XM3s.
A person who is looking for new headphones. As a Jabra 85H owner, I struggle with the issues of headphones randomly turn off and on. I got used to it, BUT the biggest irritation I have is the folding. They fold as Sony XM4 and I really can not see the need for that folding. You wear the headphones on your head or around your neck. When do you need to fold them? When traveling? big deal of that little extra space. So as for me, I would gladly buy the XM5 even though I like the design of the XM4 slightly better.
Whoa, Nelly!! The size of the XM5 case vs the Bose 700s case had me stunned. I have and really like the 700s. I thought its case was big, but the XM5 case takes the cake. Wow 😯
@Mark Ellis Reviews Just found your channel and enjoy your detailed explanation on your review. Keep up the good work. I wonder what happened with the Microphone in both XM4/5 as when you use for Meetings or Phone Calls I couldn't make it hear my voice over the ambient noise. When use someone else I note all the noise they transfer to the other person whereas with my Jabra Elite 85h it doesn't. Is there any solution and/or way to make it better. I've for a few days now (XM4) and I love as you mentioned in the video the Noise Cancellation it's quite good and how comfortable they're in general compared in your video with the newer version I can't say they improved as folding and making them easy to carry is not their thing. On the other hand something I dislike a bit compared to my Jabra ones is the lack of physical buttons as sometimes you're out and about with cold and stuff and only your hand can produce the gestures.
My XM2 died a few days ago, so I had to made a decision between the XM4 and the XM5... And to be honest I still didn't know which one to get while I went to the store lol. But the store decided for me as they didn't have the XM5 anymore, so I bought the XM4. I think there are a lot of cons for the XM5, but I was attracted by the better noise cancellation (at least that's what I read). I'll never know if I would have liked the XM5 better than my XM4, but I'm satisfied with my XM4 so that's enough for me.
Hi guys the XM5's have a clearer frequency range, timbre, and extension below 1000Hz. Especially if you are manually setting LDAC to 990Kbps under developer options. The imaging (positional accuracy) is definitely better than my XM4's
2 times I bought the XM5 and 2 times I returned them! I tried to give it a second chance but they are very uncomfortable for me. You are right, i prefer my XM4 sound and comfort. BTW great channel!
I have the XM5s, not super satisfied and kindof regret not getting the XM4s. It's got all the cons that you say. But also, I find the headband very uncomfortable. The biggest advantages to me are: charging is very fast, microphones for phonecalls are very good. So these are the reasons for me to keep them (for the moment).
I’ve not had the 4s, but bought the XM5s duty free for some longs flights (basically every flight from NZ to anywhere that matters is a long flight). Plus, as a carpenter I wear grade 5 earmuff every day. The sound is great on the 5s, and they’re at least as comfortable and much lighter than my 3M grade 5s, which is great. The noise cancelling is incredible - much much better than my bro’s JBLs (though they were about half the price). Not sure I’d spend $500 NZD on another pair of headphones ever again, and I’m not a regular user of them, but I do appreciate the good sound and noise cancelling. The case size is absolutely not an issue because I basically don’t use it
Just bought the XM5 to replace my XM3s, then watched your reviews. I hope I won't be disappointed, though at just £180, I haven't paid the premium price. If the sound quality is as good as my XM3s and the noise cancelling is better, that will be a win. Not folding is a shame, but not a disaster.
Got me a pair of XM4s after watching a few videos about the 5s, but your comparisons specifically convinced me 4s were better for me. Also subscribed to your channel for the helpful info and well produced videos - but let's face it, I really enjoy hearing you speak 😂
My 2c on the case/size, I had a pair of folding noise cancelling headphones before the XM5, so I do know the 'benefit' of a smaller case, but honestly the xm5 case fits in my laptop bag with room to spare, so it's absolutely not an issue for me.
I bought the XM4's on your recommendation. I like the folding and the case and price. They sound great (on Excited EQ). The base is great, a bit muddy to start with, but on Excited EQ they are great. The adaptive settings are a bit horrifying in the amount of personal data they want, just so you don't have to click a noise cancelling button.
I hate on XM5's the automatic NC optimizer..why I cant just choose to have full NC? It's so annoying I will probably return headphones and stick to XM4.
Don’t care about the case it came with. Had my XM5 for 6 months now. Absolutely luv them. I mostly use my XM5 with my SmartTV. If I had something negative to say about them, it would be that the buttons are hard to see in low light. Would of been nice if Sony made them glow for older folks like me.
I just bought the XM6's and I honestly need the improved noise cancelation, considering I work in a pretty noisy environment. I'm excited to hear/see what I can expect from these beauties. Edit: I meant the XM5's hahah
i mainly use mine at home rather on the go, except for when i am traveling long distance and use them in the plane. tbh, i upgraded from my previous bose 700 and no regrets at all, mainly because i love how comfortable the xm5 is compared with the bose 700. however for mobility, i would use my bose quiet comfort 2 earbuds. that being said, for me the XM5 is the best headphones i have owned so far, and the bose quiet comfort 2 is the best earbuds i've owned so far.
Hi there, xm5 fresh owner here! I wanna address the case, it's on your personal opinion, but to me the case is great! It's a stylish one and gives it a grand of a feeling when you hold it in the hand. I don't know what's going on there. The only thing i would change is to add one more zipper. The comfort is superior, alltjough I had my Bose 700 and they were more comfy to me. Nonetheless, it's very fine. Sound is great but they are not the most spacious to me. I liked the space more on the 700. Charging is great, gut mine with 40% battery left and with my Samsung 25W charger they were fully loaded in over 30 minutes. Overall very satisfied.
I have the XM3 and XM5 headphones, and I personally find that folding the XM3 back into the case is a bit of a faff each time. There are even instructions on the inside of the case to show you how to fold them in the right way. I suppose you could get used to it but many people had the hinges break so I imagine Sony wanted to avoid this. The XM3 are a-bit creaky too and the XM5’s are a lot better in windy conditions.
I went from the XM3 to the XM5 and don't care about the size of the case. I care more about the updates in sound, comfort and design. I literally gave away my XM3 the same week
My XM4's started feeding back, sounds like a cleaning is needed for the microphones inside the cup. I wound up getting a pair of bose 700 but they had static whenever I would advance a video. I wound up taking them back and getting a pair of Senheiser Momentum 4. They sound much better and have a 60 hour battery life! Still not as comfortable as the Bose QC 35 and the physical button that pulls forward to connect to a different source. They nearly always pick the right device the QC 35-2 headphones. Very happy with the Senheisers though.
I'm onto my second pair after my first pair got stolen at my gym. (I left them on a treadmill) My second pair I got from Amazon returns for only £200 so back to happy sounds. In the gym I mostly play drum and bass and after adjusting the EQ find them to be amazing. The case has never been an issue, fits in my gym bag. Honestly for me 10/10
I disagree that @sony did wrong by removing folding feature. I had old Sony xb950b1. They broke after 3 years because the joint from where the headphones folds is not sturdy. I can use only my right hand to wear headphones. So i use more force to wear the headphones. By removing the folding feature, they have made the headphones more durable.
I don't care about the large case. I'll probably purchase a different case when I get them from probably Ebay. I had a set of xm4 headphones, but returned them because of how cheap they felt. I was also afraid of breaking them when I'd fold them up. The sound of the xm4 headphones was great.
I've just bought the XM5's (November2022). Paid £286 on Amazon UK. The sound is great, comfort is good, I've got big ears 👂 so the extra cup size over the XM4's suits me fine. However the headband could do with a bit more padding for me. Before buying I did a side by side comfort comparison between the XM4's and the XM5's at my local Curry's. The 5's were far more comfortable. For less than £300 these headphones 🎧 are a steal.
I have both XM4s and XM5s, and I’m torn. Ignoring the price (I’m fortunate enough to be able to purchase both at a substantial discount, so price isn’t a consideration), I *think* I’m coming down in favour of the 5s. The 4s are much warmer sounding, to the point of being too warm, and the 5s are brighter and more open sounding (both with flat eq), it’s really noticeable when you A/B test them side by side (which I’m sad enough to do). The 4s are very slightly more comfortable for me, but they’re also warmer, to the point of being sweaty on a warm day. The 5 case is an abomination, and it is really quite hard to fit into a backpack if you already have a laptop and other daily stuff in there, but I guess you’d get used to it. I’m summary, it’s very close, and I expect price would ultimately be the deciding factor if you had to chose between the two.
Your videos helped me pick the right one, over any headphone, I went with the best (the xm4s obviously), also I got them for perfect (used 2 times) condition with shipping included for 235 dollars. Thanks so much
You have made some good points here BUT saying the XM4 are much better headphones than the XM5s withouth mentioning their really bad microphones is just not acceptable. 👎🏻 The only reason to buy the XM5s would be if you wan't to use them for taking calls on a regular basis - there they are MUCH MUCH MUCH better then the XM4s. ☝🏻
"Not acceptable" is a bit harsh, mate. I've covered this LOADS in other videos and, regardless, I don't hold the calling ability in as higher regard as other reviewers/users - I've always made that clear, too.
For me XM5 will support LE/LC3 codec as XM4 not yet confirm support LE/LC3 (XM4 support until LDAC). So XM5 was major update for codec or audio latency. Apple not yet announce phone which support LDAC or LE audio. Android consists bluetooth version 5.2 with have huge advantages using XM5. For computer or laptop not so many consist Wifi 6E or version support Bluetooth 5.2. For me 😊 XM5 will perform well using devices support LE audio.
I believe the strongest contender to the xm5 this year are the new Sennheiser Momentum 4, they look pretty decent and they should sound great (as all Sennheiser headphones), and a lot of reviewers actually prised them for their good noise cancelling performance.
The XM4's are Great Headphones, though for what ever reason.....they won't charge (literally only had them less then 2 weeks as well) I have contacted the retailer and they have been pretty good and have given me time to shop about a bit, before I send them back! I am using them Via a Aux Cable at the moment.
I have the XM5s mics over a smaller case every day. I can use these for everything, work. I’m my view the mic is better than the Jabra Evolve 2 85s and better than the XM4s. It’s worth the upgrade.
Here in India the xm5's launched at an special early price of 26,000INR ( roughly 295 pounds) so I had to grab them since xm4 are still selling for 230 pounds here.
Same bro! These are my first premium pair of cans so I'm very excited. Pre-ordered them 25th of this month from Headphonezone, and it says mine will ship on 8th October. When are yours coming?
So I bough the XM5's, and unfortunately, the left earcup was really anoying after 30-60 minutes of using them. It seems that my ear could touch the end of the earcup, after a time it started to hurt. I'm not a bigear person tho, had to sold them as there's no way to have your money back here in Sony Mexico.
I just got the xm4s on sale. The xm5s were primarily upgraded for features I dont plan on ever needing to use, with sound and portability being most important to me.
I used QC 35II for a while, it was really good. But the sound quality was with a bit too much bass. Then I've got headphones 700, it was actually good, but then I tried XM4 at the store and it was fantastic. NC may just tiny less good as 700, but the sound and comfort is way better XM4. And I prefer the behaviour of the touch panel on the 700. And also thanks to your channel I decided for XM4 instead the XM5 which was not worth the money compared to the XM4.
I just picked up the XM4s for about $200~. For a deal like that it was a no brainer. Portability was a big one for me. Sound is slightly different, but not enough to warrant the extra $150 I'd have to pay. Some people ask why do the XM5s get knocked for the size of the case and portability? Because that's why you buy them. My Sennheiser HD58X are my primary at home, cost $150 and will blow any wireless headphones out of the water. I would never use wireless at my desk, so being compact and easy to carry is a big selling point.
Enjoy RUclips as much as you want but certain things (like headphones) must be tried in person. Their are both expensive (with XM5 being bloody expensive). That said, I tried both and, comfort wise, XM4 distance between cups and arc is a tiny bit more than XM5, so XM4 tend to push down a bit one of my ears. This does not happen with the XM5 henceforth why I bought the newest model. Comfort wise, I found the Bose 700 to be even better (that aforementioned distance can be lowered even more). Sound wise ... I can't feel any difference amongst the three models. They all sound pretty good to me.
Did you buy the Sony XM5s? If so, are you satisfied?
I am regretting buying them
I stayed with my XM4 since I thought the XM5 was not improved enough and even had a drawback by not being able to fold it. I would like to see a comparison to the Sennheiser Momentum 4’s that are due out any day. I’ve heard they’re better in sound quality to the XM5, though not as good with noise cancellation and costs $50 less than the XM5.
I partially regret buying it, it is too big for my head, i did some DIY, and it fits now, but still, it looks silly. I loved the XM3 bass heavy sound, it almost completly dissapeared from the XM5. The case is really big, although the new Sennheiser momentum 4 has the same design and case...
I bought a momentum 3, it has more bass, more soundstage, it feels more open? But i heard the momentum 4 sound signature is somehat flat, it doesnt have the bass the 3 has. I understand that audiophiles love flat sound, but these are bluetooth consumer headphones, it should be fun to listen to. Altought this is subjective, i like the momentum 3s
For the price of the XM5 in my country, i am not satified, it cost 155K in my currency, while the momentum 114K, and it sounds better, but the features are better on the XM5.
I think the controls are perfect, it is responsive, i like how the music doesnt stop on changing ANC to Ambient, it just beeps while you can still hear everything. The swiping also works great. I really miss it while using the Sennheiser. If it would fit better i think i would be satisfied.
I tried the bose as well it was comfortable, but i felt like it lacked bass, that is why i choose the Sennheiser over the bose.
I got the XM5's over the XM4's for the better call quality since I use mine for meetings quite often. First pair of noise-canclling headphones and I'm really happy with them.
@@OK-cy2mc I also use my XM5s for meetings, i forgot to mention, it is the best. No one hears the cars, or the dogs barking, nothing. And also i can hear my voice quite good. Momentum for music, and XM5 for calls.
The XM5 case is fine. Like, its seriously fine lol. The way RUclipsrs complain about it you'd think they were lugging an extra backpack full of bricks around.
Compared to xm4s case it’s not.
Both are fine. XM4 is more compact...softer edges on cans...also (imo) the headband was a serious downgrade in ergonomics; xm4 had flat band but the xm5's had this subpar rod shape. My vote: "no thanks". I returned my xm5's, and kept my xm4's. (I hope xm6 goes back to the superior xm4 design. Luckily the xm4 were still a great audio quality competitor to the xm5's.
I know right? They live around my neck anyway when I go out. It's a non-issue. The whole time I owned the XM3's I maybe folded them twice
I mean seriously? No one is that hung up on the case. It’s about the features of the headphones, like cry about the case 5 times in the video, sheesh
This guy doesn’t own XM5s
Had both, in my opinion the xm5’s are better in almost every category. The only things going for the Xm4 are the price and portability. I really don’t care about the case size or the fact that they don’t fold when they are this good
Right?! I don't know why everyone is so up in arms about them not folding
Yes, headphones in a case aren't being listened to.
I don't understand the case thing at all. I wear my headphones 24/7 (yes I sleep with them on) and if I am not listening to them I just push the cups behind my ears.
Does Sony gonna release Sony wh-1000xm5 earbuds
Yeah. Funny how most of the complainers are XM4 owners. These phones are awesome.
Had both, the XM5 seems a little brighter and sounds a tiny bit better with more separation and detail. Mic quality is also vastly improved on the XM5 on both ends.
I have a very different opinion, I don't believe the most important quality on my headphones is the size of the carrying case. I think the most important thing is the sound quality, ANC, and overall fit and comfort, witch in my opinion the xm5 improved all of these aspects from the xm4. It would be nice for the xm5 to be foldable and have a smaller case, but if you have the extra money I would say the xm5 is more worth your money than the xm4.
One of the big advantages for the XM5s for me was that the noise cancelling didn't make me feel sick... yes you read that right; noise cancelling in Sony's XM4s and other brands (most notably Sennheiser Momentum) made me feel nauseated/disorientated and this was just trying them out in the shop! The XM5s have been the first high-end headphones where the noise cancellation didn't do that. This had been an issue which had stopped me from buying any headphones for a number of years.
I experienced this with XM4s too but it went away in a few days. I guess there's an adjusting phase.
@@ArjunKG95 That’s interesting. I wonder if this would be the same for me, but it would be (potentially) an expensive chance to take 😳
I thought it was just me!!! This is why I went for the AirPods Pro since they were in ear. Bose and Sony made me nauseous so hopefully the m5 won’t
@@seraephinatarriela4611 I'd only braved the AirPods (not pro) for the same reason; you can try full size headphones in stores, but you can't try AirPods Pro before you buy. Having said that, I am tempted with a pair of Pros when the 2's come out.
But yes, the M5s are still not giving me any problems a month later. Give them a try in the store; you'll find out straight away.
@@colebox6275 You can rest them inside a Sony store first. I tried it there because I was afraid of the same thing and wanted to check if the noise cancelling was actually that good. And they are.
I have owned both. The XM4's have better audio quality in my opinion. The only complaint I ever had with these is related to the plastic creaking noises that are common with the XM4's. The XM5 design did eliminate that issue. If you never owned the XM4's you will love the XM5's.
Great points, Brian!
@Sheepish Lord 100% the XM5 stomp all over the XM4 for sound quality. Much more relaxed with more upper mid information and much clearer sound with less booming, muddy bass.
Thanks, I followed your advice and got them yesterday!
Which model is better for hip-hop, rock and pop music?
@@jarekharmening8993 Also agree. XM4 sound like a bass cannon to me, ever other frequency is like you’re underwater. XM5’s are way superior, but I guess people like that excessive bass nowadays
XM5s are simply amazing, I bought them being fully aware of the case. They´re light, sound is great, call quality wonderful and they look fine. Granted, they're a bit expensive but as Mark put it, if you fancy it and wish to pay for it, go ahead. Regardless, Sony is a great brand so almost any Sony product will meet you needs. I would not upgrade from the XM4s though....I did not have the XM4s.
Me too... XM5 is the first headphones I ever owned it it was really worth it for me... The sound quality and comfort and everything you just mention are all great. I upgraded from the XM4 earbuds but yeah I wouldn't recommend upgrading from the XM4 headphones as the XM5 is only marginally better.
@@notme6753 I upgraded from the XM4 headphones for the improvement in sound quality, which I’d call much more than marginal. Totally worth it if that’s your priority.
@@Landoverse yeah but kinda sad that the bass isn't as powerful as the XM4
@@notme6753 Are you kidding? That’s the best part and precisely why I upgraded. The XM5 is still punchy but allows much more low-end detail - more of the music - to come through.
@@Landoverse haha well I'm glad you're happy with your new XM5
I have both the XM4 and XM5. The big difference is that the ANC on the XM4 has a slight hissing sound and is not completely quiet. Whereas the XM5 has no hissing sound. Sony finally figured out how to remove it. This is a big differentiator for people who want some real silence.
...but only if they're A/B testing them 😉
I read somewhere that the ANC on XM5 is set to automatic, and that it will not always be set on the strongest setting. Have you experienced anything similar with the XM5?
@@kimmossige263 yes it is true, and it's pretty bad imo
That was what I noticed when I bought some XM4s and occasionally wanted ANC with no music - ie just Pure Silence. Sony said the hiss was a fault and I sent them back. I am so glad you've said that the XM5 have no hiss. It's Prime Day today and my choice vs Momentum 4 is now easier. [Edit] bought the XM5s. They do have a hiss but it's quiet and almost soothing, like brown noise or low frequency rain
“Super-low sounds below 100Hz are blocked out more through the WH-1000XM5, as are midrange and high-pitched frequencies. Sony’s XM5 headphones do way more to block out unpredictable sounds like a mechanical keyboard or slamming cabinets than the XM4 headphones. That said, the WH-1000XM4 has a minor leg up on the newer XM5 when it comes to 120-600Hz frequencies, and renders them 1-5dB quieter than the XM5.”
The XM5s not folding is good imo. The underside of the hinges on my XM4s started cracking from normal every day use. Fewer folding/moving parts means likely greater longevity
Your pfp has your head true to size if its cracking those I think
So true. My xm3 had a crack in the right ear. And that was pretty expected due to folding. The same applies for the sunglasses. More folding more cracking.
I've tried out both multiple times before finally deciding to go for the xm5s. The audio felt much cleaner and crisper with them using the same exact EQ for the same songs in the same environment. Not saying the XM4s were bad sounding, I was really convinced and almost bought them once, but the 5s sounded better to me :/
I love them. Used them for about 5k hours at this point. Still great battery life, hardly any glitches if kept updated, still an ANC superpower, and not a single scratch on them whilst NEVER USING THE CASE. I throw them in my backseat when I get in the car and they still look brand new. COULDN’T BE HAPPIER!
Xm4 or xm5?
@@gurgelplusI think he means xm5 ofc
I had the XM4 in 2020/2021, but sold them because I wasn't happy with the audio quality, and how low the volume was.
I got the XM5 at launch, so 5 months ago, and I've been so happy with them. The design is very sleek, and I actually prefer that they don't fold, since the hinges are quite prone to damage. I don't really travel much, and when I do, the case fits easily in my backpack.
They're lighter and more comfortable.
I also find the audio quality better, and they're louder than the XM4, which is exactly what I wanted
but girls hated the XM5 though
@@jake9854 what are you talking about? Lol
@@valkyrja-- well cauz its not foldable so its alot larger
The more moving parts, the greater the risk of damage. Therefore, the flexible headband is a big advantage for me. I also like the minimalist design. Instead of carrying a case everywhere, you can put them in a smaller bag.
Had both, I do prefer the look and the touch of the XM4, but when using for calls and Teams meetings, the XM5 is the king, noise cancellation is better in the 5
One thing I want to add is that Sony’s noise canceling with helping with my autism has helped with my behavior issues a little bit. The noise cancellation has helped my brain basically reset from sensory overload and helped it recover a lot more. I think it’s because the headphones are the same shape, as what we called gun phones, which are headphones that are used when people shoot guns. This shape really helps, especially with the way my ears are. I love how soft the leather is and this is gonna sound strange but as a blind person, I love the smell of the leather actually. Like the smell of a new Plastic leather book cover it’s like the thick plastic type of leather used in three ring binders except the softer version. Honestly gives you a lot of cushion and that is my favorite part of them. This isn’t me just praising them because they worked well for me, this is me telling you, how they’ve basically helped a lot. They’ve changed my life! Just kidding. But for somebody who uses them for a medically diagnosed disability they have really helped my brain decompress, which is really helped with my overall behavior in general. It’s helped with my stress level. I think if I could find the right words in a less long-winded explanation, I would, tell Sony thank you for making a pair of headphones that works well for people with autism and help them. I really think more people with autism should have access to sound or Sony if you’re looking for not bone conduction but traditional headphones. Honestly, they won’t regret it.what all see if we can get medical companies to recognize the need for these kind of headphones as an actual need for people with disabilities such as autism so that people can get the help they need. And the devices they need. I was lucky that I was financially able to pay for it but what about other people that can’t and can’t work and need this kind of thing? I guess they’re left out in the cold where the current system is. Forgot to say another way that they’ve held in another reason I’ve noticed it is because I’ve started listening to music a lot more again and singing a lot more again. I think the reason that I hadn’t been listening to a lot of music or singing as much is because, I have been more stressed out and wasn’t mentally able to concentrate on anything other than my stress. I still end up concentrating on my stress, but not nearly as much and that is allowed me to be much happier to the point where I am doing things that I haven’t done in a long time like singing again of my own free will and wanting to record my music and play my music again. I also want to say thanks to Sony for bringing back my love of music again or at least helping me recognize how much I love music.
Which model?
@@Ashton351 the WH 1000 XM five. My earbuds that I use are the Sony Link buds S. The XM fives that I use are the headphones not the earbuds. Like I’ve said before amazing headphones and I highly recommend them. Same thing with the link buds. although to be fair, I was coming from other companies that didn’t cancel noise very well except soundboard, which is the only other one I can find canceled noise as well as the Sony ones. I haven’t tried Bose, but I almost did. I mean sound core. Not soundboard.
This review was great, I ordered these and got nervous because everyone was saying the XM4s were better and thought I made a mistake but you really help calm my nerves.
The new case is an advantage because it's less frustrating to pack the headphones into.
I have the XM4s and the AirPods Max. The Sony pair I use for travel thanks to the fact that it folds and the case is so good. The Apple pair I use for audiobooks, as when I’m laying in bed at night and shifting around, I can’t accidentally pause playback, adjust volume, advance or go back 30 seconds, etc. from hitting the edge of them.
Your original review and this follow up convinced me to wait for the XM4s to go on sale especially since I wasn't sure if I wanted a huge headphone case or imo slightly bulkier headphones but I also didn't want to fork out more $ for the Bose since it was my first time spending so much $ on a pair of headphones. I'm glad I waited, I love the XM4s! Ever since I got them, they hardly ever leave my head! Thank you for all of your hard work! ❤️
Thank you!
I bought the xm4 January of this year for $220 (converted to MYR) brand new. They sound good and anc is good too but the clamping force hurts the back of my ears after wearing it for more than 1 hour. I gave it to my wife after she tried using it when we flew back from the US. Good thing I have the WF xm4 during the flight.
The xm5 went on sale 3 weeks ago for $324 here in Malaysia. It feels more comfortable for me and tweaking the EQ does the job for good sound quality. For me, comfort should be 1st to be considered. The xm5 works well for me
Subbed after your honest review. Thank you for not trying to convince me to get the latest and greatest.
Nice - thanks!
I bought the XM5 this week. eBay had a 10% discount on a make an offer to bring the prices down to Au$405 or about £200. So price is no longer an issue. I wanted the occasional travel and a headphone to link to my new LG C2 smart Tv. They do that well. No regrets here.
This is exactly what I wanted to hear! I was not able to decide between these two, I wanted the XM5 because they're the newest, but for me, that I travel a lot, and carry a lot of work stuff on my backpack , the XM4 are perfect because of the case, more portable, great quality and cheaper! Thank you for helping me decide!
Thanks for the review!, I'm deciding about to buy XM5 on the black week for 305Euro.
I really like the way you explained things compactly. but super clear and your voice is so soothing to hear honestly.
thanks! I just bought the xm4s and I love them, everything is perfect, i wont upgrade ever
Personally, I have a love hate relationship with the XM5's. Since having them I've been playing with the EQ and constantly switching the clear bass toggle. Sometimes they really wow me and sound amazing. Other times at full volume they tend to fall apart on some bass heavy songs. I like the design, comfort and form factor. I think the case is really stylish and sleek. I've been really on the fence about returning the XM5's but everytime I think about returning them they give me reasons not to. I've came from the XM4's and not once did I have to adjust the EQ settings. I run the 4's on "Excitment" sound signature. Not once has the 4's gave me any issues or doubts and I've had them since October of 2020.
The 700’s were £170 on Prime Day 🤩… you can even sleep in the 700’s… Bose hit a home run with the 700, if below £200 anywhere it’s a major major go as someone else says. I have the XM5s and love them as their noise cancelling is exceptional. I find them very peaceful and comfortable. Great video, thank you .
Bose blows and jbl I think Sony still stands as the number 1 in headphones today that’s just my opinion and I have owned both even my 75 year old mother agrees and she is very picky
Please tell me, which has better noise cancelling (audio and microphone), Bose 700 or Sony XM5?
i had a pair of XM2s for a long time and loved them and upgraded to the XM5 when they came out. I absolutely love them. I actually prefer that they can't be folded like the old XMs as that hinge would get loose. Even with the larger case and lack of a folding hinge, the XM5's remain my ATF headphones given their lightness, comfort and the sound quality and ANC is more than suitable for my needs.
I never owned a MX series before rather than MX5 I purchased by the 1st of October. I'm super hyped and amazed on how good this are. But honestly, you are absolutely right when it comes into that folding thing. The box is kinda big and not that handy as the MX4 looks like. Overall, i am super happy. Cheers dear friend. 🍻
How are they after 1 yr ??
@@Ojedit Amazingly good! Sincerely. One tip I'd suggest you is if you have a fiber cloath to wipe the soft leather after usage, no matter the kind of headphones you are using. But MX5 overall has been absolutely a blast! Especially walking by on Toronto by busy streets, that Noise cancellation works just perfect! 🙂
@@Kevink4240 sounds great 👍😃
For me, the XM5s are better for two reasons: 1. Microphone quality is far superior for calls. 2. I'd like to use these while I'm in my car with the windows down and there is no more white noise. The XM4s had this horrible white noise that was just unbearable to use with the wind blowing and that does not exist on the XM5s.
The sound quality really doesn't matter that much to me because I never use these for music. Only for podcasts and RUclips videos. I use my sennheiser's for music.
1. No one cares about call quality when buying headphones. If you're serious about that, get a microphone
2. Who tf uses headphones while on a car 😂, it's unsafe and that 90% of cars have, you know, speakers?
hope you get pulled over for wearing noise cancelling headphones while driving ya nonce
My pair just arrived a few days ago and was originallyt debating on getting either the XM5 or the XM4s but decided go for the XM5 due to the microphone improvements over the previous model (based on reviews) which is a big deal factor for me for going into meetings and such.
The long-wear comfort is excellent and the sound is great once you tweak the EQ to your liking, however, I wish Sony would do a software update wherein the strength of the noise cancellation can be controlled instead of it always being set to "adaptive" - this is just being nitpicky since the NC on the these are great out of the box for regular use (will be testing them out on a flight soon).
Overall, generally happy with my pair since I've been wanting to own something from this series for a few years now and my only complain would be how they aren't as portable. In terms of use, I've been wearing the XM5s everywhere except the gym (no IPX rating) - I'm most probably going to stick with my Airpods Pro for this since they're more portable, comfortable, and practical for that type of activity anyway.
Thanks for your input!
hey~ thanks for your insightful review.
How long do you use your XM5? is it around 8hrs a day? I am looking for headphones that is comfortable for a long period of use.
Thank you 😊
@@jinriepark7868 Hi! I'm using them 5 times a week 8h/day, basically all the day in the office. They are comfortable, especially my head and ears are on the bigger side and I don't have any issues with them. I've tried XM3 before and I was noticing some discomfort around my ears after about 4h wearing them.
Heyy! Great comment! I'm thinking in getting the xm5, I didnt own the xm4, but I tried them once.
After hours at looking at comments my main concern is the lack of the option to control the strenght on the ANC, is that a big deal breaker for you, or do you reckon it is barely noticeble after updates?
My main goal for the purchase is the ANC itself so Im wondering if I should go for the xm4 instead because of it?
Also I wear glasses, it might be a factor due to the different shape cups.
Thank you hopefully someone can help out.
The arm connecting to the earcup cracked😢how and where do you get the parts for the XM5
I just bought these yesterday. In the store they sound great. At home they learn how to sound good. My biggest issues are the ear cup size, the head band size, and the ear pads. The price also. I paid with tax 446. These should be no more that 299 in my opinion because of the materials. I get the vegan leather and recycled plastic but I can say that my XM3s are the best headphones I have ever owned. The XM4s are ok. They sound a little muddy but are almost like the XM3s. The XM5s beat the Bose 700 hands down on noise cancelling and sound. I still haven't decided on keeping the XM5s but they do sound better than they did yesterday.
I feel the XM4's stereo separation feels like the objects are a bit distant. But in XM5, objects feel a bit near, which I think is because of 30mm drivers. XM4's audio output feels like the spectrum has been widened. Anyone else experiencing the same thing?
I sold my XM4 to get the XM5 and I am not sure if I regret my decision. The main advantage of the XM5 is that it is FAR better than the XM4 for (video)calls. The main disadvantage for me is the step back in comfort. The XM5 causes me pain on my head when I wear them for too long and I never had that with the XM4s. The XM4s also sound a bit more impactful (probably because of the bigger driver), even though the XM5 has a slightly more balanced audio profile to my ears. Also, the XM5s are a clear step back in practicality with its bigger case and lack of foldability.
I have both the XM4s and the XM5s and I also have the Airpods Max - both the ANC and sound quality of the XM5 is better than both. Design wise, I actually prefer the XM5s since folding them all the time doesnt only add time but also puts a strain on the headphones themselves. The case doesnt matter to me as they both take space in a backpack anyway.
Regarding audio quality, the XM4s in comparison sound MUDDY with heavier base too. Whoever claims that the XM4 sound better or have better ANC must be in denial
Do the XM5s really sound better than the Airpods Max ?! Ive heard the airpods are more enjoyable
@@martyking5603 gotta be honest with you... Airpods max sounds better not because they are better in sound quality, but because they are tweaked nicely. If you adjust the EQs on the XM5s or any other Hi-fi headsets, they are most likely going to sound better than the airpods max. But if you are a apple user, forget anything I've just said, since they do have better connectivity I believe? and apple product dont support Ldac, which is one of the main features that made the sony headsets sound amazing.
"both the ANC and sound quality of the XM5 is better than both"
Having watched many reviews which showcase the ANC (where you can hear what the ANC does) XM4 nudge XM5's in terms of ANC - you could argue that they are actually better in certain scenarios, it might be personal preference but to me XM4's seem to do a better job at eliminating frequencies which I don't like. Plus XM5 don't allow for permanent ANC setting, you need to rely on AI deciding what to do when the best would be to let user set ANC to max and let it sit there.
I did a comparison between Sony XM5, Apple Air pods Max and Bowers&Wilkins Px7 S2. And at the end I ordered the B&W Px7 S2 cans as they catered my tastes the best. I was seriously disappointed about XM5 sound quality and the way the shallow pads pressed my glasses. But as it is blatantly obvious, headphones are one the most subjective pieces of tech you can find, no one should cast “the final verdict” as it’s completely up to you. What I would love see is your reaction and evaluation on the B&Ws latest offering in this regard.
I used to have the XM4s and I loved them, but especially as someone who listens to audiobooks more than music, the XM5s are a massive step up because of the difference in noise cancellation quality.
Awesome review Mark. I have the xm4 myself. When you finally do a review for the M4 from Senny, can you also compare them to the xm4? I'm wondering if I should make that upgrade or not
People always complaining about the case. I’ve had mine for a month now, and they never been in the case yet lol Just traveled to Memphis last week, and my XM5’s was on my head the whole time. Don’t need a case if you’re wearing them 😎 They sound incredible, noise cancellation is phenomenal, they are very comfortable. Definitely worth every penny.
Lots of people _do_ need the case, though (hence the complaints) 😉
I was looking for headphones that I can pack in a backpack and take to and from school with me. As a graduate student on campus from 9 am to 9 pm I wanted wireless headphones that sound good and can be packed into a backpack so I can use them while studying. The active noise canceling is a bonus.
I have not tried sennheisers (reviews are typically pretty bad for them for whatever reason). Bose doesn't sound like they have the best bass, typically people recommend sony for that. Regardless, bose tend to be quite a bit more expensive. I do have the xf4s I used to use at work, which has beyond impressed for battery life, connectivity, and noise cancelation in ear buds. I have a mdr1 headset from Sony I am currently using which sounds phenomenal. The mdr1 wire is incredibly short and it does not cone with a travel case, which means the cushions get extra pressure constantly while packed. So I am familiar with sony sound and how to tweak them as needed with eq, and the xm4s from price and functions I need seem better.
I never really liked the XM4's default sound profile. Always sounded so muddy. I was pleasantly surprised to find a much more refined sound in the XM5, getting it much closer to the AirPods Max level in my opinion. The thing I don't really like though it's the headband comfort.
If you tweak the EQ via the Sony app, it will be waaay better than APMax. Before buying my XM5 (replacing XM3), I tried the APMax because I was thinking of getting them instead but I wasn't blown away by their sound, I even preferred the sound of my old XM3 (after tweaking the EQ).
Agreed Bruno! The XM5s have much more natural, clear, and textured bass than my XM4 and XM3. Still not quite audiophile quality (and I still have to turn the bass down a notch or two) but a big improvement.
More spaciousness in the highs, too, and better imaging - especially with ANC turned off. In that regard, they’re perfect travel headphones: they do ANC well when you need it on the plane or train, and do great sound when relaxing in your quiet hotel room.
I had the nc 700, then xm4, then xm5. Nc 700 sounded better than xm4 and xm5 sound significantly better than xm4. Xm4 sounded muddy and bass was strong but bloated. The mic quality is the real factor for me tho. Xm5 are unbelievable. Great for work meetings. Nc 700 were great for their time but xm5 now my fav.
You're 100% right about the case, and well done for detailing just how much the bigger case SUCKS. I was so looking forward to upgrading from my XM3s, but honestly I'm just gonna wait another year or two to see if Sony create a better version like before, or stick with XM3s.
A person who is looking for new headphones. As a Jabra 85H owner, I struggle with the issues of headphones randomly turn off and on. I got used to it, BUT the biggest irritation I have is the folding. They fold as Sony XM4 and I really can not see the need for that folding. You wear the headphones on your head or around your neck. When do you need to fold them? When traveling? big deal of that little extra space. So as for me, I would gladly buy the XM5 even though I like the design of the XM4 slightly better.
As an apple user, I prioritize comfort and sound quality. It's really hard for me to choose between XM 5 and AirPods Max.
One codex does not work w apple phones LDAC works w android. They say you can adjust this in the app but it's still a different sound
Whoa, Nelly!! The size of the XM5 case vs the Bose 700s case had me stunned. I have and really like the 700s. I thought its case was big, but the XM5 case takes the cake. Wow 😯
@Mark Ellis Reviews
Just found your channel and enjoy your detailed explanation on your review. Keep up the good work.
I wonder what happened with the Microphone in both XM4/5 as when you use for Meetings or Phone Calls I couldn't make it hear my voice over the ambient noise.
When use someone else I note all the noise they transfer to the other person whereas with my Jabra Elite 85h it doesn't.
Is there any solution and/or way to make it better.
I've for a few days now (XM4) and I love as you mentioned in the video the Noise Cancellation it's quite good and how comfortable they're in general compared in your video with the newer version I can't say they improved as folding and making them easy to carry is not their thing.
On the other hand something I dislike a bit compared to my Jabra ones is the lack of physical buttons as sometimes you're out and about with cold and stuff and only your hand can produce the gestures.
My XM2 died a few days ago, so I had to made a decision between the XM4 and the XM5... And to be honest I still didn't know which one to get while I went to the store lol. But the store decided for me as they didn't have the XM5 anymore, so I bought the XM4. I think there are a lot of cons for the XM5, but I was attracted by the better noise cancellation (at least that's what I read). I'll never know if I would have liked the XM5 better than my XM4, but I'm satisfied with my XM4 so that's enough for me.
Thank you buddy saved my money, first time comment on RUclips, truly thank you for your 3 months later review, love you
Hi guys the XM5's have a clearer frequency range, timbre, and extension below 1000Hz. Especially if you are manually setting LDAC to 990Kbps under developer options. The imaging (positional accuracy) is definitely better than my XM4's
That’s genuinely nice to hear… but will only apply to a tiny section of XM5 buyers - these really are consumer headphones.
2 times I bought the XM5 and 2 times I returned them! I tried to give it a second chance but they are very uncomfortable for me. You are right, i prefer my XM4 sound and comfort.
BTW great channel!
I have the XM5s, not super satisfied and kindof regret not getting the XM4s. It's got all the cons that you say. But also, I find the headband very uncomfortable. The biggest advantages to me are: charging is very fast, microphones for phonecalls are very good. So these are the reasons for me to keep them (for the moment).
I use my airbuds when I’m out and about. The XM5s around the house. Love them!
Nice!
I plan to do the same 🥸
I’ve not had the 4s, but bought the XM5s duty free for some longs flights (basically every flight from NZ to anywhere that matters is a long flight). Plus, as a carpenter I wear grade 5 earmuff every day. The sound is great on the 5s, and they’re at least as comfortable and much lighter than my 3M grade 5s, which is great. The noise cancelling is incredible - much much better than my bro’s JBLs (though they were about half the price). Not sure I’d spend $500 NZD on another pair of headphones ever again, and I’m not a regular user of them, but I do appreciate the good sound and noise cancelling. The case size is absolutely not an issue because I basically don’t use it
Just bought the XM5 to replace my XM3s, then watched your reviews. I hope I won't be disappointed, though at just £180, I haven't paid the premium price. If the sound quality is as good as my XM3s and the noise cancelling is better, that will be a win. Not folding is a shame, but not a disaster.
I bought a brand new pair of xm5s for 250 on Amazon absolutely sound amazing and love everything about them highly recommend
Got me a pair of XM4s after watching a few videos about the 5s, but your comparisons specifically convinced me 4s were better for me. Also subscribed to your channel for the helpful info and well produced videos - but let's face it, I really enjoy hearing you speak 😂
My 2c on the case/size, I had a pair of folding noise cancelling headphones before the XM5, so I do know the 'benefit' of a smaller case, but honestly the xm5 case fits in my laptop bag with room to spare, so it's absolutely not an issue for me.
I bought the XM4's on your recommendation. I like the folding and the case and price. They sound great (on Excited EQ). The base is great, a bit muddy to start with, but on Excited EQ they are great. The adaptive settings are a bit horrifying in the amount of personal data they want, just so you don't have to click a noise cancelling button.
I hate on XM5's the automatic NC optimizer..why I cant just choose to have full NC? It's so annoying I will probably return headphones and stick to XM4.
Don’t care about the case it came with. Had my XM5 for 6 months now. Absolutely luv them. I mostly use my XM5 with my SmartTV. If I had something negative to say about them, it would be that the buttons are hard to see in low light. Would of been nice if Sony made them glow for older folks like me.
I just bought the XM6's and I honestly need the improved noise cancelation, considering I work in a pretty noisy environment.
I'm excited to hear/see what I can expect from these beauties.
Edit: I meant the XM5's hahah
The XM6s? Woah.
@@MarkEllisReviews I meant XM5 HAHAHA
i mainly use mine at home rather on the go, except for when i am traveling long distance and use them in the plane. tbh, i upgraded from my previous bose 700 and no regrets at all, mainly because i love how comfortable the xm5 is compared with the bose 700. however for mobility, i would use my bose quiet comfort 2 earbuds. that being said, for me the XM5 is the best headphones i have owned so far, and the bose quiet comfort 2 is the best earbuds i've owned so far.
Hi there, xm5 fresh owner here!
I wanna address the case, it's on your personal opinion, but to me the case is great! It's a stylish one and gives it a grand of a feeling when you hold it in the hand. I don't know what's going on there. The only thing i would change is to add one more zipper.
The comfort is superior, alltjough I had my Bose 700 and they were more comfy to me. Nonetheless, it's very fine.
Sound is great but they are not the most spacious to me. I liked the space more on the 700.
Charging is great, gut mine with 40% battery left and with my Samsung 25W charger they were fully loaded in over 30 minutes. Overall very satisfied.
I have the XM3 and XM5 headphones, and I personally find that folding the XM3 back into the case is a bit of a faff each time. There are even instructions on the inside of the case to show you how to fold them in the right way. I suppose you could get used to it but many people had the hinges break so I imagine Sony wanted to avoid this. The XM3 are a-bit creaky too and the XM5’s are a lot better in windy conditions.
I went from the XM3 to the XM5 and don't care about the size of the case. I care more about the updates in sound, comfort and design. I literally gave away my XM3 the same week
My XM4's started feeding back, sounds like a cleaning is needed for the microphones inside the cup. I wound up getting a pair of bose 700 but they had static whenever I would advance a video. I wound up taking them back and getting a pair of Senheiser Momentum 4. They sound much better and have a 60 hour battery life! Still not as comfortable as the Bose QC 35 and the physical button that pulls forward to connect to a different source. They nearly always pick the right device the QC 35-2 headphones. Very happy with the Senheisers though.
I'm onto my second pair after my first pair got stolen at my gym. (I left them on a treadmill) My second pair I got from Amazon returns for only £200 so back to happy sounds. In the gym I mostly play drum and bass and after adjusting the EQ find them to be amazing. The case has never been an issue, fits in my gym bag. Honestly for me 10/10
I disagree that @sony did wrong by removing folding feature. I had old Sony xb950b1. They broke after 3 years because the joint from where the headphones folds is not sturdy. I can use only my right hand to wear headphones. So i use more force to wear the headphones. By removing the folding feature, they have made the headphones more durable.
That’s a very interesting point I never thought about that.
Just ordered mine - I don't give a solitary f*** about the folding. Never even used the case with my XM3s.
Thanks, Mark! Brazil is here!
Welcome!
I don't care about the large case. I'll probably purchase a different case when I get them from probably Ebay. I had a set of xm4 headphones, but returned them because of how cheap they felt. I was also afraid of breaking them when I'd fold them up. The sound of the xm4 headphones was great.
Thanks for mentioning the Bose 700. I didn't plan to buy a NC headphones but I got them for 180€ so that was a great opportunity! These are fantastic.
So glad to hear this! Enjoy!
Good thing I came across this video. Thank you!
I've just bought the XM5's (November2022). Paid £286 on Amazon UK. The sound is great, comfort is good, I've got big ears 👂 so the extra cup size over the XM4's suits me fine. However the headband could do with a bit more padding for me. Before buying I did a side by side comfort comparison between the XM4's and the XM5's at my local Curry's. The 5's were far more comfortable. For less than £300 these headphones 🎧 are a steal.
I have both XM4s and XM5s, and I’m torn.
Ignoring the price (I’m fortunate enough to be able to purchase both at a substantial discount, so price isn’t a consideration), I *think* I’m coming down in favour of the 5s.
The 4s are much warmer sounding, to the point of being too warm, and the 5s are brighter and more open sounding (both with flat eq), it’s really noticeable when you A/B test them side by side (which I’m sad enough to do).
The 4s are very slightly more comfortable for me, but they’re also warmer, to the point of being sweaty on a warm day.
The 5 case is an abomination, and it is really quite hard to fit into a backpack if you already have a laptop and other daily stuff in there, but I guess you’d get used to it.
I’m summary, it’s very close, and I expect price would ultimately be the deciding factor if you had to chose between the two.
Your videos helped me pick the right one, over any headphone, I went with the best (the xm4s obviously), also I got them for perfect (used 2 times) condition with shipping included for 235 dollars. Thanks so much
No problem!
Thank you so much man I was wondering which to buy as gift for my daughter, and after I saw ur video I am sure I am going with mx4.
Nobody seems to mention the squeaky hinges on XM3/XM4s. I'm glad they changed the design on XM5s.
You have made some good points here BUT saying the XM4 are much better headphones than the XM5s withouth mentioning their really bad microphones is just not acceptable. 👎🏻
The only reason to buy the XM5s would be if you wan't to use them for taking calls on a regular basis - there they are MUCH MUCH MUCH better then the XM4s. ☝🏻
"Not acceptable" is a bit harsh, mate. I've covered this LOADS in other videos and, regardless, I don't hold the calling ability in as higher regard as other reviewers/users - I've always made that clear, too.
For me XM5 will support LE/LC3 codec as XM4 not yet confirm support LE/LC3 (XM4 support until LDAC).
So XM5 was major update for codec or audio latency. Apple not yet announce phone which support LDAC or LE audio.
Android consists bluetooth version 5.2 with have huge advantages using XM5.
For computer or laptop not so many consist Wifi 6E or version support Bluetooth 5.2.
For me 😊 XM5 will perform well using devices support LE audio.
I believe the strongest contender to the xm5 this year are the new Sennheiser Momentum 4, they look pretty decent and they should sound great (as all Sennheiser headphones), and a lot of reviewers actually prised them for their good noise cancelling performance.
Testing them as we speak 😉
@@MarkEllisReviews perfect!
@@MarkEllisReviews video?
The XM4's are Great Headphones, though for what ever reason.....they won't charge (literally only had them less then 2 weeks as well) I have contacted the retailer and they have been pretty good and have given me time to shop about a bit, before I send them back! I am using them Via a Aux Cable at the moment.
I’m still using my WH-1000XM4 and it’s awesome. I don’t want to upgrade
XM4 and XM5 case take up the same space,
The XM4 case is thicker so if you flatten it it’s about or exactly the same as the XM5 case.
I have the XM5s mics over a smaller case every day. I can use these for everything, work. I’m my view the mic is better than the Jabra Evolve 2 85s and better than the XM4s. It’s worth the upgrade.
The replaceability of the ear-cups concerns me. I haven’t been able to find them for sale anywhere yet.
Hey Mark! I was wondering what you would recommend as an upgrade for the Jabra 85h that I own at the moment?
Here in India the xm5's launched at an special early price of 26,000INR ( roughly 295 pounds) so I had to grab them since xm4 are still selling for 230 pounds here.
Same bro! These are my first premium pair of cans so I'm very excited. Pre-ordered them 25th of this month from Headphonezone, and it says mine will ship on 8th October. When are yours coming?
@@ashishdutt1914 haha same ! I preordered mine from amazon got that exrra 5% discount it says i'll get it by 10th oct
@@deveshp9998 Thank you for the discount headsup. I emailed Headphonezone about this and they issued me a 5% refund for the same.
So I bough the XM5's, and unfortunately, the left earcup was really anoying after 30-60 minutes of using them. It seems that my ear could touch the end of the earcup, after a time it started to hurt. I'm not a bigear person tho, had to sold them as there's no way to have your money back here in Sony Mexico.
I just got the xm4s on sale. The xm5s were primarily upgraded for features I dont plan on ever needing to use, with sound and portability being most important to me.
awesome video! I noticed your keyboard on 5:40, What brand is it?
How would you compare sennheiser momentum 4s against XM5s?
Better price, better battery, personalized equalizers
My XM2s suddenly died after 4 years 😥 and I can't live without them. Sounds like XM4 is the go! The case is big enough, bigger is not an option.
I used QC 35II for a while, it was really good. But the sound quality was with a bit too much bass. Then I've got headphones 700, it was actually good, but then I tried XM4 at the store and it was fantastic. NC may just tiny less good as 700, but the sound and comfort is way better XM4. And I prefer the behaviour of the touch panel on the 700.
And also thanks to your channel I decided for XM4 instead the XM5 which was not worth the money compared to the XM4.
Xm5s are now £299 in all major stores in the uk (14/12/22). I’ve even seen them as low as £284. That’s a significant price drop in just a few months.
I prefer the QC45 over the 700s because they can fold and have better ANC
I'm still with the XM3. 🤷♂️ I'd get the 4 if given the chance to upgrade
I just picked up the XM4s for about $200~. For a deal like that it was a no brainer. Portability was a big one for me. Sound is slightly different, but not enough to warrant the extra $150 I'd have to pay. Some people ask why do the XM5s get knocked for the size of the case and portability? Because that's why you buy them. My Sennheiser HD58X are my primary at home, cost $150 and will blow any wireless headphones out of the water. I would never use wireless at my desk, so being compact and easy to carry is a big selling point.
Enjoy RUclips as much as you want but certain things (like headphones) must be tried in person.
Their are both expensive (with XM5 being bloody expensive).
That said, I tried both and, comfort wise, XM4 distance between cups and arc is a tiny bit more than XM5, so XM4 tend to push down a bit one of my ears.
This does not happen with the XM5 henceforth why I bought the newest model.
Comfort wise, I found the Bose 700 to be even better (that aforementioned distance can be lowered even more).
Sound wise ... I can't feel any difference amongst the three models. They all sound pretty good to me.