Thank you so much for these podcasts. You two bring life to history in such a vibrant and relatable way. I've burned through almost every podcast and thus grabbed the membership to get the newest ones. I feel like I understand the world *that* much more after listening and will constantly hear tangents/tidbits that I now know so much more context around. Please never stop!
Tom and Dom do THE best podcasts! Not heard part 3 of this trilogy but episodes 1 and 2 were riveting. Thank you chaps for bringing me such in depth history of an utterly awful time in human history. I’m hooked.
Dear TRiH Team, In 2006 I interviewed Gordon and Eve, an elderly couple who recounted their church holiday to Germany in late August 1939. One story must suffice; they went, with a group from a German church to a swimming pool. The other patrons at the pool knew they were English and the atmosphere was tense. One German, presumably to show off, climbed to the very highest diving board but at the top he hesitated and seeing this, Gordon (an excellent swimmer and always up for a spot of mischief), got up and scampered up the ladder behind the German. When he got to the top he indicated 'get on with it or get down'. The German went down the ladder and absolute silence reigned; Eve said"I prayed that he would make good dive" and he performed a flawless dive. The spell was broken and one of the Germans in their church party said quietly "Hitler has no idea what he is taking on". Sadly, the German, a pilot, was killed in action over Norway in 1944. Thanks for an excellent series.
Who would of thought that Englands own leaders would turn on its people like they have. Given the country away with a camera in every toilet to see it all happen live. Very disturbing.
I am so glad I’ve found your channel. Bloody love your content. Started off on the Roman discussions, but particularly enjoying this conversation. Really interesting! Look forward to what is to come.
I thought that I knew the sequence of events leading to the declaration of war in September 1939…..but oh, no. A riveting watch and listen from my favourite historians. You have done it AGAIN! Many thanks.
I think as is true of most of us, Tom came into the world as Tom. He seemed to be underacting a little in this one. It's possible for me at any rate to imagine a movie about the outbreak of WWII. in which Tom, emulating Peter Sellers in "Dr Strangelove," portrays several of the major characters.
I've been listening to u guys for a while in Spotify, really loving the podcast. I came to RUclips out of curiosity and I was surprised that u didn't have a few million subscribers. Continue the great work guys, u will blow up one day, it's a matter of time. You guys provide insane quality of information while being really entertaining with you two having a great dynamic. Congratulations on your excellent work, be proud.
For me, this podcast is a profound discovery. A joyful present to be opened with the glee and delight of a child on the morning of it's birthday. I live and work all across the Western seaboard of Ireland and I am deeply interested in history. How could one not be, surrounded as I am by the detritus of millennia of human life on this Island. Wars and pestilence, Peace and prosperity between our two great nations and among ourselves. We Irish always had an easily identifiable culture. Britain always struggled with what it means to be British. What great attribute stands out in Britons. Well, this is one of them. You are great historians. You have the ability to record, collate and condense and eons of history down to an easily digestible, bite-sized snack that is immediately enjoyable and makes you yearn for more. You are the great, theatrical story-tellers, giving gravitas and life to amazing chapters of humanity's history on this earth. Bravo! Cannot wait until Monday!
As a Pol-Am this was an especially painful episode for me to listen to. And even though I’ve spent many years thinking and reading about these events, they offered new insights and details I was unaware of. These two are really quite remarkable.
This is one of the BEST (pre)war episodes, history lessons, that I had pleasure listening to. I love history, i pride myself in being quite knowledgeable when it comes to September Campaign and WWII in general, but this episode, this lesson is just so very awesome. Big thanx for sharing!!! Ps: Your arguments as to why Poland would not negotiate at all after August 26th (or even before, specially regarding Gdansk and the Corridor) are very well presented. But, with all due respect, you are forgetting one, big one, perhaps the most important of them all... Nevertheless absolutely awesome episode. Again, thanx.
I have been interested in history all my life. The details in this that I did not know are amazing. I love there 2 guys . Dominic loves to set Tom up for the classic comedy and it all works .
My 18yo explains things like Dominic does - from the Bible, to Tolstoy, to an obsolete book he's read. I've always loved listening to him, but its only since listening to you guys that I've realised what an amazing and specialised talent it is. I've loved every series you've done on Germany. Thank you.
A great history podcast and a damn funny one, too! Tom & Dom have great senses of humor. Tom's poking fun @ Hitler & Uncle Joe had me laughing out loud!
I need a 12-step program for The Rest is History…”I’m Brian and I’m addicted to two English gentlemen waxing poetically about history…and I have no clean time.”
All very enjoyable and informative episodes.I was going to draw the distinction between the Eagles' Nest and the Berghof,the former being the tea house (and still is) a birthday gift to Hitler atop the Kehlstein mountain with access by lift and steep pedestrian path and only visited a couple of times by Hitler,Eva Braun used it more to entertain guests. The Berghof is the large building with the terrace,stairway access and large retractable window,damaged by the RAF raid and blown up by the German government in about 1952. I was interested by the comments about Hitler getting the time wrong.I wonder if it's relevant that in the German language 4.30 means thirty minutes before 4 while we mean 30 minutes after 4. When we see Germans writing Halb Vier we would write three thirty. A few years ago I visited Berchtesgaden and asked directions in German to the Berghof,I was answered in English and told not to ask for the Fuhrer! Who says the Germans don't have a sense of humour?
Something that's always puzzled me is, if the UK guaranteed the independence of Poland, why did it not also go to war against Soviet Russia for invading as it did against Nazi Germany?
It's hard for me to say exactly, but I'll give two possible clues. One, it could have been that Stalin could still be useful. It was already clear that Hitler would not relent until he was defeated, and Stalin still offered hope for a deal. Two, Poland did not recognize Stalin's attack. This may sound strange, but the Polish authorities decided to pretend it was not a war so as not to force Romania to attack the USSR, or break the alliance*. But that alone opened the hands of British diplomats. -- *) Poland had a deal with Romania in case the USSR attacked. In the event of a complete defeat, joint combat no longer made sense; although Romanian sympathy still made sense, since the authorities and some troops evacuated to the West through Romania.
The Guarantee _specifically_ referred to Germany. In the event of any other nation triggering the clauses of the treaty, both nations would be required to "consult together on the measures to be taken in common."
@@bolivar2153 The guarantee was certainly made in the context of German threats and aggression and with Hitler in mind, but didn't actually name Germany or Hitler per se. ‘In the event of ANY [caps mine] action which clearly threatened Polish independence, and which the Polish Government accordingly considered it vital to resist, His Majesty’s Government would feel themselves bound at once to lend the Polish Government all support in their power.’ history.blog.gov.uk/2019/03/28/whats-the-context-31-march-1939-the-british-guarantee-to-poland/
@@bolivar2153 The guarantee was clearly directed at Germany, but it didn't specifically refer to it or Hitler - "In the event of ANY [my caps] action which clearly threatened Polish independence, and which the Polish Government accordingly considered it vital to resist, His Majesty’s Government would feel themselves bound at once to lend the Polish Government all support in their power."
@@mephistoXFC459V "ARTICLE I. Should one of the Contracting Parties become engaged in hostilities with a European Power in consequence of aggression by the latter against that Contracting Party, the other Contracting Party will at once give the Contracting Party engaged in hostilities all the support and assistance in its power." Attached Protocol "1. (a) By the expression "a European Power" employed in the Agreement is to be understood Germany. (b) In the event of action within the meaning of Article 1 or 2 of the Agreement by a European Power other than Germany, the Contracting Parties will consult together on the measures to be taken in common." Edit : Had to repost several times, it didn't like me including any of the links to the facsimiles of the agreement, sorry. Edit 2 : The wikipedia page for "Anglo-Polish alliance" has a wikisource link to the text of the treaty. It is word perfect as far as I can tell at a quick glance.
Just been reading Axworthy's history of Iran and in the period of the 'great game' it's a good example of, beyond the players and chronology, nothing ever changes with humans, 'nations' and politics. There were new treaties being signed and then sides switching almost every week with no deep intention to abide by the terms therein. It was ever thus.
And Putin seemed to have learned every negotiation trick and victim card trick from Hitler. The parallels not only with Putin but in the reaction of the West over so many years is uncanny. Appeasers have learned nothing of the signs nor the mistakes made in the lead up to WW2...
Tom, I write to respectfully point out that your hair sticks up behind the headband of your headphones. I find this distracting. I get sidetracked by wanting to reach out and smooth down your hair, and this interferes with my focus on the content. Please try the following -- maybe a little dab of gun oil rubbed into the hair that will be behind the headband. Then start the headband slightly behind where it will end up, get the 'phones onto your ears and gently push the headband forward into place. These podcasts are absolutely great, living proof that history can be fun. Looking forward to more. Great necktie, by the way.
Respectfully, Churchill thought providence had chose him for WW2 and I think he was right. Please post your sources/references in the video description.
This has nothing to do with the subject, but why does Dominic have i mic with "...øde" on? Must be Danish. 🤔 Great pod anyway. Only know Tom Holland from his works on (late) antiquity.
Arthur Harris, later to become C-in-C of RAF Bomber Command, described Chamberlain’s address to the nation as ‘about as inspiring as the headmaster of a minor public school announcing an outbreak of mumps.’ Once again gentlemen, bravo.
For a rare recording of Hitler speaking normally: ruclips.net/video/WE6mnPmztoQ/видео.html Personally, I find it more disconcerting than his usual shouty/raving fare.
A story circulated in the Foreign Office that when von Ribbentrop presented his credentials to the King, the latter replied to his salute that, yes, he could go to the toilet.
@ True, but dealing with the early onslaught of the totalitarian “isms” must have been terrifying to many because it was unlike anything they had experienced prior.
Hitler's mistake was in not persuading Stalin to attack Poland first. Had Stalin done so, and defeated Poland in weeks, as expected, it is highly unlikely that Britain and France would have declared war on the USSR, and would therefore have ended up with masses of egg on their faces, while Hitler would simply have walked in once the Polish state ceased to exist. Now, THAT would have been a stroke of genius!
How Stalin would have fared, it's hard to say. The Red Army was much more numerous, but not technically superior -- like the Wehrmacht. It also attacked from a more difficult (fewer roads at its disposal) direction. Well, and as we know from later history -- Stalin did not necessarily want to share what he had already seized. PS. Well, and Hitler wanted to strike. Stalin could still be afraid.
I have been struggling to find any direct source materials citing the German false-flag operation that was used to show a Polish invasion of Eastern Germany. Does anyone out there know who provided this information to the Allies postwar?
You guys just caused me to realize that “Molotov” is cognate with the English word “mallet”. I guess I’ll look that up to make sure, but it’s gotta be right. Edit: I checked, and I was right! The Russian word for “hammer” is “molotok”. That’s also the Russian word for “mallet” and “gavel”. According to Google, anyway.
The man's real name was not "Molotov", it was a significantly more common and less heroic "Skryabin". Just like "Stalin" and "Litvinov" it was a "party", a "revolutionary" name.
it may well be NOT that Hitlers judgement was very good then bad, rather he had a constant belief that England and France would back down which was just right in some cases 1937 - 38 and wrong in 1939
As an American, I find it interesting that Hitler didn’t seem to think too much about our potential role in a European War. Did he think that the United States would never enter because we lacked the political will or we just didn’t matter militarily?
He had utter contempt for democracies. He seems to have thought that they were all as fragile as the Weimar Republic (his only experience of actually living in a democracy) and would collapse when put to the supreme test of war. Thankfully, he was wrong.
@@craigshagin5506I forget which Japanese general or admiral said it but it was along the lines of "I have been to America. I have seen the factories of Detroit, the steel works of Pittsburgh, the farmland of the Midwest. We cannot possibly win this war". But any idea that at least half of any war is logistics seems to have been drowned out in a lot of twaddle about racial superiority and warrior spirit.
Poland had been created after WW1 based on the Wilson point, but afterwards was abandoned by USA. Yes, USA delivered food supplies, but if USA wanted to have area of democracy and prosperity in Europe and potential to stop Hitler before he was dangerous, USA should do what they did after WW2 (Marshall Plan, market opening, political alliance etc.)
The Nazis were a truely despicable bunch. But watching you two blokes crack up (or chortle) after calling Hitler a “health and safety Nazi” did make me laugh. A. Lot. Loving your work guys.
The Guarantee specifically referred to Germany. In the event of any other nation triggering the clauses of the treaty, both nations would be required to "consult together on the measures to be taken in common." "ARTICLE I. Should one of the Contracting Parties become engaged in hostilities with a European Power in consequence of aggression by the latter against that Contracting Party, the other Contracting Party will at once give the Contracting Party engaged in hostilities all the support and assistance in its power." Attached Protocol "1. (a) By the expression "a European Power" employed in the Agreement is to be understood Germany. (b) In the event of action within the meaning of Article 1 or 2 of the Agreement by a European Power other than Germany, the Contracting Parties will consult together on the measures to be taken in common."
@ "Attached Protocol "1. (a) By the expression "a European Power" employed in the Agreement is to be understood Germany. (b) In the event of action within the meaning of Article 1 or 2 of the Agreement by a European Power other than Germany, the Contracting Parties will consult together on the measures to be taken in common."" It explicitly states Germany.
That Ribbentrop went to Moscow to sign the treaty....It never really hit me before, but that was very brave of him. The way the N's and C's play things, there is no such thing as diplomatic niceties or rule of law. There was a non-zero possibility NKVD would scoop him up the second he landed, take him to Leftorvo Prison, and torture him for information and/or murder him. And Ribbentrop's people were the same. They DID do stuff like that to other "protected" personnel. Very glad I don't live in a world with either of them.
Jesus. Crimean sparkling wine was a thing in 1939? We used to celebrate every new years eve with sovietskoye champanskoye. Pretty much whole eastern bloc have had the taste of it.
I love the irony of lifting a sincere 'God save the King,' cup while discussing Hitler and Stalin.. Some British historians missed some of the valuable lessons in there huh? I suppose like many of the people in the story, when you grow up in it.. and your friends wont like you if you doubt the external rule...
I get the gimmick of doing impersonations as you read famous quotes or speeches as an introduction to each episode, BUT I am constantly amazed at how incredibly BAD Tom Holland is at those impersonations. The accent is usually insultingly terrible and the acting even worse. What makes it particularly stupefying is how he seems to believe he is good. Dominick’s face conveys the cringeworthy display, yet Holland remains oblivious. Do the world a favour and leave the impressions to professionals. Just read the quotes like a normal person. History will be much kinder to you for it.
I love Tom but to be honest I agree with your comment. No malice intended just a kind gesture towards someone I admire and follow religiously. Thanks Tom and Dominic, I appreciate your podcast service.
I can’t get enough of this podcast.
More 20th century history please!
The two of you are so entertaining and so well informed at the same time. I so thoroughly enjoy every podcast. Thank you gents
I have never been so hooked to two men discussing so minute ww2 details with no footage and pictures
Thank you so much for these podcasts. You two bring life to history in such a vibrant and relatable way. I've burned through almost every podcast and thus grabbed the membership to get the newest ones. I feel like I understand the world *that* much more after listening and will constantly hear tangents/tidbits that I now know so much more context around. Please never stop!
Thanks very much to you both. These are terrific.
Nice outfit Tom and thank you both for another highly entertaining episode.
Tom and Dom do THE best podcasts!
Not heard part 3 of this trilogy but episodes 1 and 2 were riveting. Thank you chaps for bringing me such in depth history of an utterly awful time in human history. I’m hooked.
Dear TRiH Team, In 2006 I interviewed Gordon and Eve, an elderly couple who recounted their church holiday to Germany in late August 1939. One story must suffice; they went, with a group from a German church to a swimming pool. The other patrons at the pool knew they were English and the atmosphere was tense. One German, presumably to show off, climbed to the very highest diving board but at the top he hesitated and seeing this, Gordon (an excellent swimmer and always up for a spot of mischief), got up and scampered up the ladder behind the German. When he got to the top he indicated 'get on with it or get down'. The German went down the ladder and absolute silence reigned; Eve said"I prayed that he would make good dive" and he performed a flawless dive. The spell was broken and one of the Germans in their church party said quietly "Hitler has no idea what he is taking on". Sadly, the German, a pilot, was killed in action over Norway in 1944.
Thanks for an excellent series.
That is a corker of a story. Thanks!
Who would of thought that Englands own leaders would turn on its people like they have. Given the country away with a camera in every toilet to see it all happen live. Very disturbing.
Dominic: a consummate story teller. Thank you both for a riveting series
I am so glad I’ve found your channel. Bloody love your content. Started off on the Roman discussions, but particularly enjoying this conversation. Really interesting! Look forward to what is to come.
I thought that I knew the sequence of events leading to the declaration of war in September 1939…..but oh, no.
A riveting watch and listen from my favourite historians. You have done it AGAIN! Many thanks.
Oh God...dominic, you've created a MONSTER in Tom😮😱
I think as is true of most of us, Tom came into the world as Tom. He seemed to be underacting a little in this one. It's possible for me at any rate to imagine a movie about the outbreak of WWII. in which Tom, emulating Peter Sellers in "Dr Strangelove," portrays several of the major characters.
😁😅🤣😂😄
PLEASE arrange the ww2 episodes into a playlist so I can binge. Love the pod. Thanks guys.
This series is just amazing. Soooo moving. So interesting. Thank you very much !
I've been listening to u guys for a while in Spotify, really loving the podcast. I came to RUclips out of curiosity and I was surprised that u didn't have a few million subscribers. Continue the great work guys, u will blow up one day, it's a matter of time. You guys provide insane quality of information while being really entertaining with you two having a great dynamic. Congratulations on your excellent work, be proud.
For me, this podcast is a profound discovery. A joyful present to be opened with the glee and delight of a child on the morning of it's birthday.
I live and work all across the Western seaboard of Ireland and I am deeply interested in history. How could one not be, surrounded as I am by the detritus of millennia of human life on this Island. Wars and pestilence, Peace and prosperity between our two great nations and among ourselves. We Irish always had an easily identifiable culture. Britain always struggled with what it means to be British. What great attribute stands out in Britons.
Well, this is one of them. You are great historians. You have the ability to record, collate and condense and eons of history down to an easily digestible, bite-sized snack that is immediately enjoyable and makes you yearn for more. You are the great, theatrical story-tellers, giving gravitas and life to amazing chapters of humanity's history on this earth.
Bravo!
Cannot wait until Monday!
A tremendous telling of these events, thank you!
What a dreadful moment. It is hard not to see this through modern eyes. Why haven't we learned? Thank you
Outstanding work, gentlemen. Thank you.
Pro Tip: don't play the beginning at the office with the door open.
Depends where you work I suppose
I don't like the first bit at all , had to skip most of it.
These 2 are national treasures
You gents are magnificent! I appreciate the humor so much, it keeps me engaged. Press on!
I have looked for this for like 2 hours!! Lolol
As a Pol-Am this was an especially painful episode for me to listen to. And even though I’ve spent many years thinking and reading about these events, they offered new insights and details I was unaware of. These two are really quite remarkable.
This is one of the BEST (pre)war episodes, history lessons, that I had pleasure listening to. I love history, i pride myself in being quite knowledgeable when it comes to September Campaign and WWII in general, but this episode, this lesson is just so very awesome. Big thanx for sharing!!!
Ps: Your arguments as to why Poland would not negotiate at all after August 26th (or even before, specially regarding Gdansk and the Corridor) are very well presented. But, with all due respect, you are forgetting one, big one, perhaps the most important of them all... Nevertheless absolutely awesome episode. Again, thanx.
I have been interested in history all my life. The details in this that I did not know are amazing. I love there 2 guys . Dominic loves to set Tom up for the classic comedy and it all works .
I can't wait to see how this series turns out.
Spoiler.Allies win!
My 18yo explains things like Dominic does - from the Bible, to Tolstoy, to an obsolete book he's read. I've always loved listening to him, but its only since listening to you guys that I've realised what an amazing and specialised talent it is.
I've loved every series you've done on Germany. Thank you.
Lovely observation
Amazing series
amazing episode!
Looking sharp Mr Holland!! 👌🏼
Tom going "aw they would have gotten along so well", sincerely killed me 😂
'Hitler's a health and safety nazi' 😂😂😂
Had me crying with laughter, that and I'm an artist at heart.
Tickled me
Just LOVE your podcasts….i don’t watch TV anymore
A great history podcast and a damn funny one, too! Tom & Dom have great senses of humor. Tom's poking fun @ Hitler & Uncle Joe had me laughing out loud!
It is nice to hear one of hitlers speech in English as if I were German..almost..very informative 👍
Yeah I'm pretty sure I watched all of your podcasts so now I think you guys should get to work and make a whole bunch more of them
If you can listen to their podcasts, there's over 552 of them! I use castbox, but there's others you can use. Its all free
one of Tom's best impressions for sure
Practice makes perfect?
The details. Damn so good to listen
I haven't realised Dominic was running his own order fulfilment centre
I need a 12-step program for The Rest is History…”I’m Brian and I’m addicted to two English gentlemen waxing poetically about history…and I have no clean time.”
Watching Tom in the opening moments makes me believe in reincarnation,it's uncanny. Another great podcast guys .
BEST EPISODE EVER
All very enjoyable and informative episodes.I was going to draw the distinction between the Eagles' Nest and the Berghof,the former being the tea house (and still is) a birthday gift to Hitler atop the Kehlstein mountain with access by lift and steep pedestrian path and only visited a couple of times by Hitler,Eva Braun used it more to entertain guests. The Berghof is the large building with the terrace,stairway access and large retractable window,damaged by the RAF raid and blown up by the German government in about 1952.
I was interested by the comments about Hitler getting the time wrong.I wonder if it's relevant that in the German language 4.30 means thirty minutes before 4 while we mean 30 minutes after 4. When we see Germans writing Halb Vier we would write three thirty.
A few years ago I visited Berchtesgaden and asked directions in German to the Berghof,I was answered in English and told not to ask for the Fuhrer! Who says the Germans don't have a sense of humour?
Something that's always puzzled me is, if the UK guaranteed the independence of Poland, why did it not also go to war against Soviet Russia for invading as it did against Nazi Germany?
It's hard for me to say exactly, but I'll give two possible clues.
One, it could have been that Stalin could still be useful. It was already clear that Hitler would not relent until he was defeated, and Stalin still offered hope for a deal.
Two, Poland did not recognize Stalin's attack. This may sound strange, but the Polish authorities decided to pretend it was not a war so as not to force Romania to attack the USSR, or break the alliance*. But that alone opened the hands of British diplomats.
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*) Poland had a deal with Romania in case the USSR attacked. In the event of a complete defeat, joint combat no longer made sense; although Romanian sympathy still made sense, since the authorities and some troops evacuated to the West through Romania.
The Guarantee _specifically_ referred to Germany. In the event of any other nation triggering the clauses of the treaty, both nations would be required to "consult together on the measures to be taken in common."
@@bolivar2153 The guarantee was certainly made in the context of German threats and aggression and with Hitler in mind, but didn't actually name Germany or Hitler per se. ‘In the event of ANY [caps mine] action which clearly threatened Polish independence, and which the Polish Government accordingly considered it vital to resist, His Majesty’s Government would feel themselves bound at once to lend the Polish Government all support in their power.’ history.blog.gov.uk/2019/03/28/whats-the-context-31-march-1939-the-british-guarantee-to-poland/
@@bolivar2153 The guarantee was clearly directed at Germany, but it didn't specifically refer to it or Hitler - "In the event of ANY [my caps] action which clearly threatened Polish independence, and which the Polish Government accordingly considered it vital to resist, His Majesty’s Government would feel themselves bound at once to lend the Polish Government all support in their power."
@@mephistoXFC459V "ARTICLE I. Should one of the Contracting Parties become engaged in hostilities with a European Power in consequence of aggression by the latter against that Contracting Party, the other Contracting Party will at once give the Contracting Party engaged in hostilities all the support and assistance in its power."
Attached Protocol "1. (a) By the expression "a European Power" employed in the Agreement is to be understood Germany. (b) In the event of action within the meaning of Article 1 or 2 of the Agreement by a European Power other than Germany, the Contracting Parties will consult together on the measures to be taken in common."
Edit : Had to repost several times, it didn't like me including any of the links to the facsimiles of the agreement, sorry.
Edit 2 : The wikipedia page for "Anglo-Polish alliance" has a wikisource link to the text of the treaty. It is word perfect as far as I can tell at a quick glance.
Hitler rarely spent time at the eagles nest, I think Dominic meant The Berghof.
He seems to use "Eagle's Nest" as a catch all for Obersalzberg. But yeah, Eagle's Nest is specifically the Kehlsteinhaus up the mountain.
@ I think you’re right, everything I’ve read seems to suggest he suffered with the altitude.
Just been reading Axworthy's history of Iran and in the period of the 'great game' it's a good example of, beyond the players and chronology, nothing ever changes with humans, 'nations' and politics. There were new treaties being signed and then sides switching almost every week with no deep intention to abide by the terms therein. It was ever thus.
You can understand from Tom's opening monologue where Terry Nation got the idea for Davros
It's fair to say that Hitler is sounding uncannily like Davros.
I mean, they were just explicitly based on them
And Putin seemed to have learned every negotiation trick and victim card trick from Hitler. The parallels not only with Putin but in the reaction of the West over so many years is uncanny. Appeasers have learned nothing of the signs nor the mistakes made in the lead up to WW2...
Great content but please stop referring to the Berghof as the Eagles Nest
The way you two talk about the people in the Nazi party makes me want to see a The Death of Stalin style film about the Nazi party
Mussolini is like us signing up to his subscriptions without checking the terms and conditions.
Tom, I write to respectfully point out that your hair sticks up behind the headband of your headphones. I find this distracting. I get sidetracked by wanting to reach out and smooth down your hair, and this interferes with my focus on the content. Please try the following -- maybe a little dab of gun oil rubbed into the hair that will be behind the headband. Then start the headband slightly behind where it will end up, get the 'phones onto your ears and gently push the headband forward into place. These podcasts are absolutely great, living proof that history can be fun. Looking forward to more. Great necktie, by the way.
Respectfully, Churchill thought providence had chose him for WW2 and I think he was right. Please post your sources/references in the video description.
I’m just starting this - my assumption is that the conclusion of this podcast is that they had a sneaking admiration for each other…
This has nothing to do with the subject, but why does Dominic have i mic with "...øde" on? Must be Danish. 🤔
Great pod anyway. Only know Tom Holland from his works on (late) antiquity.
Arthur Harris, later to become C-in-C of RAF Bomber Command, described Chamberlain’s address to the nation as ‘about as inspiring as the headmaster of a minor public school announcing an outbreak of mumps.’
Once again gentlemen, bravo.
My favorite show in the world right now
For a rare recording of Hitler speaking normally: ruclips.net/video/WE6mnPmztoQ/видео.html Personally, I find it more disconcerting than his usual shouty/raving fare.
I had no idea about this. Thank you.
Absolutely riveting, a tour de force gents
A story circulated in the Foreign Office that when von Ribbentrop presented his credentials to the King, the latter replied to his salute that, yes, he could go to the toilet.
That's one hell of an introduction
Tom puts Robert Carlyle in the shade
The early middle years of the 20th century must have been a horrific time in which to live.
So was most of human history unfortunately
@ True, but dealing with the early onslaught of the totalitarian “isms” must have been terrifying to many because it was unlike anything they had experienced prior.
Herr Holland does a brilliant Onkel 'Dolph.
Ich hoffe, dass Sie sich eines Tages uns anschließen, damit die Welt als eine Einheit leben kann.
Big fan of Tom’s outfit
'I've been chosen by providence', "You don't want a leader like that, that's mad." Unless its Henry V.
Minute 45 / 46 - AND that is when the fate of Poland was sealed - with allies like France and Britain, who needs enemies!!!!!!!!!
you are wise as solon..
Rory Stewart is like a latter day version of a member of Milner’s kindergarten
Spit out my drink when yall called Hitler a “health and safety Nazi” LMAO
Hitler's mistake was in not persuading Stalin to attack Poland first. Had Stalin done so, and defeated Poland in weeks, as expected, it is highly unlikely that Britain and France would have declared war on the USSR, and would therefore have ended up with masses of egg on their faces, while Hitler would simply have walked in once the Polish state ceased to exist. Now, THAT would have been a stroke of genius!
How Stalin would have fared, it's hard to say. The Red Army was much more numerous, but not technically superior -- like the Wehrmacht. It also attacked from a more difficult (fewer roads at its disposal) direction. Well, and as we know from later history -- Stalin did not necessarily want to share what he had already seized.
PS.
Well, and Hitler wanted to strike. Stalin could still be afraid.
Stalin wouldn’t do that , no way
One of the hundred of mistakes Hitler made!
The agreement was made so that Germany attacked first. I doubt it would have made a difference either way
I guess Ribbentrop was lucky Molotov offered him sparkling wine rather than a cocktail...
Charles Martel, Maxim Molotov, Timmy Mallet.
Wrong about H handshake, many generals where impressed by his handshake and pleading eyes
I have been struggling to find any direct source materials citing the German false-flag operation that was used to show a Polish invasion of Eastern Germany. Does anyone out there know who provided this information to the Allies postwar?
I love to listen to these two erudite, witty men
You guys just caused me to realize that “Molotov” is cognate with the English word “mallet”. I guess I’ll look that up to make sure, but it’s gotta be right.
Edit: I checked, and I was right! The Russian word for “hammer” is “molotok”. That’s also the Russian word for “mallet” and “gavel”. According to Google, anyway.
The man's real name was not "Molotov", it was a significantly more common and less heroic "Skryabin".
Just like "Stalin" and "Litvinov" it was a "party", a "revolutionary" name.
it may well be NOT that Hitlers judgement was very good then bad, rather he had a constant belief that England and France would back down which was just right in some cases 1937 - 38 and wrong in 1939
As an American, I find it interesting that Hitler didn’t seem to think too much about our potential role in a European War. Did he think that the United States would never enter because we lacked the political will or we just didn’t matter militarily?
maybe because USA didnt think about it. they did not want to participate and are far away. they have often been tired of wars in foreign lands.
@ even though not fighting, our ability to supply Great Britain and France - which occurred before Pearl Harbor- did not seem to enter his calculus.
He had utter contempt for democracies. He seems to have thought that they were all as fragile as the Weimar Republic (his only experience of actually living in a democracy) and would collapse when put to the supreme test of war. Thankfully, he was wrong.
@@craigshagin5506I forget which Japanese general or admiral said it but it was along the lines of "I have been to America. I have seen the factories of Detroit, the steel works of Pittsburgh, the farmland of the Midwest. We cannot possibly win this war". But any idea that at least half of any war is logistics seems to have been drowned out in a lot of twaddle about racial superiority and warrior spirit.
Poland had been created after WW1 based on the Wilson point, but afterwards was abandoned by USA. Yes, USA delivered food supplies, but if USA wanted to have area of democracy and prosperity in Europe and potential to stop Hitler before he was dangerous, USA should do what they did after WW2 (Marshall Plan, market opening, political alliance etc.)
The British and the French declared war on Germany for their attack on Poland but when Stalin attacked Poland nothing happened. Does that make sense?
We all know Dominic chortles through each break.
21:42 Hmm, reminds me of something. Willy to Nicky, or something like that…
One question I have is whether Stalin was planning to invade Germany? Sounds like it.
though I've seen Dominic on the podcast many times, when I'm listening, in my minds eye, he has hair.
Oh, I just adore Dom!! He has me in stitches with his analysis of Hitler/Lennon's delusional nonsense.
The Nazis were a truely despicable bunch. But watching you two blokes crack up (or chortle) after calling Hitler a “health and safety Nazi” did make me laugh. A. Lot. Loving your work guys.
Why didnt Brittain declare war to the Soviet as well when they attacked Poland?
Because they only wanted Germany destroyed.
Good question
Probably because there wouldn’t have been support for it (especially from the labour bench’s)
The Guarantee specifically referred to Germany. In the event of any other nation triggering the clauses of the treaty, both nations would be required to "consult together on the measures to be taken in common."
"ARTICLE I. Should one of the Contracting Parties become engaged in hostilities with a European Power in consequence of aggression by the latter against that Contracting Party, the other Contracting Party will at once give the Contracting Party engaged in hostilities all the support and assistance in its power."
Attached Protocol "1. (a) By the expression "a European Power" employed in the Agreement is to be understood Germany. (b) In the event of action within the meaning of Article 1 or 2 of the Agreement by a European Power other than Germany, the Contracting Parties will consult together on the measures to be taken in common."
@@bolivar2153Doesnt say "Germany", there. And part of Russia is european. This smells hippocrazy.
@ "Attached Protocol "1. (a) By the expression "a European Power" employed in the Agreement is to be understood Germany. (b) In the event of action within the meaning of Article 1 or 2 of the Agreement by a European Power other than Germany, the Contracting Parties will consult together on the measures to be taken in common.""
It explicitly states Germany.
Three brothers died in infancy and father died suddenly so he was obssed with death
That Ribbentrop went to Moscow to sign the treaty....It never really hit me before, but that was very brave of him. The way the N's and C's play things, there is no such thing as diplomatic niceties or rule of law. There was a non-zero possibility NKVD would scoop him up the second he landed, take him to Leftorvo Prison, and torture him for information and/or murder him. And Ribbentrop's people were the same. They DID do stuff like that to other "protected" personnel. Very glad I don't live in a world with either of them.
Dom, he's not the devil he's a human being, now THAT will get you cancelled !! 😂😂
Some men have taken seeds of truth and planted fields of hate
I googled pictures of the signing of the pack. I noticed Ribbentrop is wearing a pinky ring. A bit of a dandy if you ask me.
Jesus. Crimean sparkling wine was a thing in 1939? We used to celebrate every new years eve with sovietskoye champanskoye. Pretty much whole eastern bloc have had the taste of it.
I love the irony of lifting a sincere 'God save the King,' cup while discussing Hitler and Stalin.. Some British historians missed some of the valuable lessons in there huh?
I suppose like many of the people in the story, when you grow up in it.. and your friends wont like you if you doubt the external rule...
Frothing Tom! Kind of has a ring to it.😂😂
I’m 53 and it’s questionable if I control my own home.
I get the gimmick of doing impersonations as you read famous quotes or speeches as an introduction to each episode, BUT I am constantly amazed at how incredibly BAD Tom Holland is at those impersonations. The accent is usually insultingly terrible and the acting even worse. What makes it particularly stupefying is how he seems to believe he is good. Dominick’s face conveys the cringeworthy display, yet Holland remains oblivious. Do the world a favour and leave the impressions to professionals. Just read the quotes like a normal person. History will be much kinder to you for it.
I love Tom but to be honest I agree with your comment. No malice intended just a kind gesture towards someone I admire and follow religiously. Thanks Tom and Dominic, I appreciate your podcast service.
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