@@Firefist0123 ya.....spikes don't make this much of a difference. Not even close. They can actually fatigue your legs more if you aren't used to running in them.
The spikes definitely help improve your performance. However, it should be noted that Nick is a former Olympian so he has genetic talent and a highly capable aerobic system, so he was able to shave his time down very quickly in a matter of weeks. Going from a 5:40 to a 5:15 could take a hardworking runner many months to accomplish. The spikes make your feel faster and lighter so that will help you run a few seconds faster maybe -- not 25. All around great job to Nick!
Spikes 100% help more then a few seconds on a track. Trainers he ran in weren't designed for racing so they are slowing him down with all the extra weight. You also conserve more energy on the turn with spikes due to the spikes. I'd say trainers vs a proper pair of spikes could make 10-15s faster depending the on person.
I second the notion that the drop in weight from the trainers he wore has the most to do with it. At paces that slow, traction with the metal pins isn't much of a factor.
I’m trying to go 4:20 indoors by our conference meet in February…I need roughly 8 more seconds 😬Sometimes when I start to lose motivation in training I watch ur videos and the joy you bring to this sport becomes infectious
This is wild. I am now 66 and at this age there is no way I'm combining any deadlifting with running back to back. Even in high school, when I ran barely sub :50 for 400 (actually it was 440 yards in those days) and barely sub 2:00 for the 880 and could deadlift 450 I would not have tried to do those back to back. In fact I only know I could deadlift 450 because I hated lifting so much I asked my coach what I could do to get out of lifting in PE. He said break a school record. Since I was a ski racer too I figured my best shot would be either squat or deadlift and I chose deadlift for some reason. I did it once and never picked up free weights again. Massive respect, Nick. Of course you are an Olympian and I was just an uncoachable kid with a little natural ability. I'm 6' and 180 pounds today and was 10-15 pounds lighter then. I still like to sprint once a week or so and try to be careful not to hurt myself in the process. I'm really slow now but I think my form is still pretty solid. No goals other than to enjoy the fact that I can still do it.
To anyone who doesn’t have time to watch the full video wanting an answer, The spikes were exceptionally more effective than the runners, the spikes gave him a time of 5:16 for the mile. Which is about 25 seconds less than the mile with the runners.
I felt like I was FLYING in my spikes when I tried them for the first time. I shaved almost .5 seconds off my hurdle time (55) so a huge improvement! Meet tomorrow, then leagues!
I started the same challenge in January except around my block which is .45. It took me a few days to realize I'll be doing 225 miles in January. Last two years I ran 115 for the year 🤣 . It's one way to get back at it
I run the mile on my first year in track and my best time was 6:29. I’m the worst mile runner in my grade by only about ten seconds. I just got spikes for my meet in a couple days and I hope to get around 6:10
I hope when it's warmer you come out to the mid-Atlantic states. I haven't worn spikes in 25 years, so It would be fun to spike up again and race one more time.
They make your feet and legs stronger which allows you to run faster. That comes with training in the spikes. Also spikes are light weight and provide more traction on the track which allows you to run faster. They make a huge difference.
Well for a second year of running pro HS XC spikes made a difference this year compared to last season but as i made a huge jump in shape spikes helped for sure even for a sucky middle school base running
Thank you I’m trying to beat 5 minutes and I was wondering if my shoes actually mattered and I think you showed me they did so now I’m going to invest in some spikes
spikes only make you faster and more efficient if your trained to wear them. if not use to them they can be inaficient with calfs putting in the extra work
Nick....are you sure spikes make a 36 sec difference? That sounds extreme to me. What have you been doing between runs, what was the weather on both runs, etc. I'm sure you also had some benefit from the earlier time trial. Love the videos
Honestly, my current mile time is 6:02.37a any advice for a distance runner? Edit- I know 6min miles seems slow I'm honestly trying to get down to at least 5:30.00 by the end of track this season.
I mean 6 isn’t shabby!😊 I’d just suggest doing a long distance run on the weekends during the season (6 days of training per week) Also recovery is rlly important because you can run higher quality workouts if your muscles feel good!! (So foam roll, stretch, and ice if needed!😊) Otherwise, try coming up with mental visualizations/games for races. (Like for my mile I think: “pace out the first one, second lap: catch someone, and then think of the last two laps as an “all out 800”) although you won’t have a lot of gas left lol😊 hope that helped!
Hey, you can definitely do it. Tips I have are probably 1. Up your weekly mileage, you wanna be doing lots of easy miles and probably get up to like 40 miles a week. 2. You wanna make sure that those easy/ long runs actually feel easy- you shouldn’t feel out of breath and should be able to talk with someone 3. Get enough sleep, enough water , and enough calories in. 4. Don’t forget speed work 5. Get fitted for some running shoes that match your running style it’ll really help
Great challenge. For overall wellness and athleticism, I'd opt for you as a runner - lighter, faster, V02 max. Lifting heavy is not as important as strength to weight ratio, IMO. Y ou really want to get in shape, do what you do best. Train for the 800 and go after some masters track titles and records. You're almost M40. If you could get down to 1:55, you could compete and possibly win at the World Masters level at age 40. How's that for a challenge? I know you're thinking, 'been there, done that' but it's a whole different thing post 40. I never ran an 800m race in my life til I was age 61, ran 2:18. Ran 56.23 400 same yr.
I've been racing and training with spikes on for a while and I always thought I was running faster in them but then I started video recording my 100 meter sprints and I run just as fast with spikes on as I do with normal running shoes. Why is that? Weak feet?
Guys do you think that sub 6.7 60m and 600lb is possible? Last year the same day I ran 6.77 and did 460. Once I ran sub11, sub22, sub50 and the next day i did 510. I think I can improve but I have to keep my BW roughly the same and strenght and speed training does not colide at my peak speed.
A mile is a mile regardless of the lane, but there are some differences. The curb is not so tough on lane 8 tho, so it should be easier on lane 8 as you don't slow down as much as on lane 1. But you don't see anyone racing the mile in 8th lane :)
Hey Nick, distance runner here. A few weeks back I ran at my first meet. 11:29 3200m. Not the best but can be improved upon. As an Olympic runner, what would you suggest that I do to run faster? I have another meet in 5 days, got any tips. Thanks.
I run track as a distance guy too I think you should talk with your coaches first and see what they think because usually winter is a good set up for outdoor but yea really just stay healthy, keep up with your runs, and keep up with your target mileage for each week. Like the times you run now can be disappointing trust me I know that a lot but really if you stay consistent you’ll be way faster than you are now when you run your outdoor championship races!!
Pretty cool experiment with the spikes. I'm a high schooler looking to get my 800 time down. Right now Im running a 1:58 indoor. Any tips for improvement?
I ran a 70.08 400 in trainers and no warmup and no competition ima train for a month and have all those things imagine how quick it will be the spike I am racing in is the Nike Zoom Rival XC 5 do you think that spike is good?
If you want a really good spike for the mile you could get dragonflies, if you want something cheaper just use the regular track zoom rivals. I use the Zoom Rival XC for the 3200 but they are not at all built for a 400
Do you think, if you got back into full 800m training and living like an elite athlete now, for say 2 years, would it be possible for you to break 1.50? For me this would be a super interesting experiment to see what age + non-optimal training does to your peak potential over 8.
Hello, I have a question as an inexperienced individual to a professional. Starting this year, I plan to study sports education and I still need a pair of shoes: 1. for the sports aptitude test (100m sprint and 3000m run) and 2. afterwards for the track and field semester. I'm still undecided whether to buy spikes (I'm leaning towards the "Puma Evospeed Distance Nitro Elite+ 2" or the "Puma evoSPEED Star 8") or to stick with regular running shoes and use my indoor shoes for the sprint. I would greatly appreciate a response.
If it was anyone but Nick I would question training a 10k to lower your mile but I'm not about to question an Olympian on their training lol. I think you have the deadlift + mile in the bag but if there are any struggles increasing the max dead lift or being able to double 500lbs but only do it once would make that run about 5x easier not being a a max lift.
I ran 6:20 mile then a few weeks later I ran 5:50 in spikes. This was about 2 months ago, also I’m not a long distance runner I just wanted under 6 minute mile.
Runner first, trying to get more into lifting. Probably going to try out the app, but mainly want the lifting to improve my running as I'm an ultra runner who goes for long distance trail runs. Assume there is stuff in there to help with that?
I wonder how much difference it would make to run a 400 meter on Alphafly vs spikes. And or how fast the prototype Viperfly would have been. Surprised no one made their own viperfly by combining shoe parts
Run it just slower then a 400 like 1-2s slower then ur 400 pr pace then just hang on. If that doesn’t seem to work for you talk to your coach about different race strategies.
Now posting all my workouts to my app! It's free to download and the first 7 days are free: www.nicksymmondsfitapp.com
can you run in trainers again to prove that it was really the spike and not just the extra days of training
@@Firefist0123 ya.....spikes don't make this much of a difference. Not even close. They can actually fatigue your legs more if you aren't used to running in them.
Make more videos about running
The crazy thing is that on the drone cam, it doesn't look like your moving that fast, but in reality your flying.
Yeah
Yeah 200 meter pace faster than I can even run 200 meters
And he does it for a mile 0-0
Nah bro he’s simply not running fast 😂
I mean...his 100m to 200m was 20 seconds on the first lap.
The spikes definitely help improve your performance. However, it should be noted that Nick is a former Olympian so he has genetic talent and a highly capable aerobic system, so he was able to shave his time down very quickly in a matter of weeks. Going from a 5:40 to a 5:15 could take a hardworking runner many months to accomplish. The spikes make your feel faster and lighter so that will help you run a few seconds faster maybe -- not 25. All around great job to Nick!
Yeah thats great insight
Spikes 100% help more then a few seconds on a track. Trainers he ran in weren't designed for racing so they are slowing him down with all the extra weight. You also conserve more energy on the turn with spikes due to the spikes. I'd say trainers vs a proper pair of spikes could make 10-15s faster depending the on person.
Cap they help a lot more than 15 seconds atleast
I second the notion that the drop in weight from the trainers he wore has the most to do with it. At paces that slow, traction with the metal pins isn't much of a factor.
I’m trying to go 4:20 indoors by our conference meet in February…I need roughly 8 more seconds 😬Sometimes when I start to lose motivation in training I watch ur videos and the joy you bring to this sport becomes infectious
Good luck, I am HS runner and trying to run around 4:21 before June for the State Meet in MN
I need updates! Did u do it?
@@jademcdonald5108 turned my attention to the 3k, so far 8:58. Conference is about a week and a half out now
Awesome job! I'm a high school track runner, and I'm trying to break five minutes in the mile during my upcoming meet. Wish me luck!
CRUSH IT!!
Same thing man good luck to you!
Ha same, good luck man!
beast mode
good luck dude, five minutes is a BARRIER
love the energy in the voice overs! Crushing it!
This is wild. I am now 66 and at this age there is no way I'm combining any deadlifting with running back to back. Even in high school, when I ran barely sub :50 for 400 (actually it was 440 yards in those days) and barely sub 2:00 for the 880 and could deadlift 450 I would not have tried to do those back to back. In fact I only know I could deadlift 450 because I hated lifting so much I asked my coach what I could do to get out of lifting in PE. He said break a school record. Since I was a ski racer too I figured my best shot would be either squat or deadlift and I chose deadlift for some reason. I did it once and never picked up free weights again. Massive respect, Nick. Of course you are an Olympian and I was just an uncoachable kid with a little natural ability. I'm 6' and 180 pounds today and was 10-15 pounds lighter then. I still like to sprint once a week or so and try to be careful not to hurt myself in the process. I'm really slow now but I think my form is still pretty solid. No goals other than to enjoy the fact that I can still do it.
Kid at my junior college went from a 4:57 in Flats to a 4:47 in Spikes, they will always be better
Your Mile pace is my 800m pace 😭😭
To anyone who doesn’t have time to watch the full video wanting an answer,
The spikes were exceptionally more effective than the runners, the spikes gave him a time of 5:16 for the mile.
Which is about 25 seconds less than the mile with the runners.
I like this content more than what the main channel has become. You're a YT pro now, but I miss this more casual content without the RUclips meta
this whole video was an ad for his app 😂
@@JonnyRunning I cliked out before that part 😅
I feel like the specific test of spikes VS trainers should be done over a shorter distance as well
I felt like I was FLYING in my spikes when I tried them for the first time. I shaved almost .5 seconds off my hurdle time (55) so a huge improvement! Meet tomorrow, then leagues!
I’m a sprinter (freshman) and my 100m time is 14.9 secs, i have never owned spikes but this makes me want to try them!
I started the same challenge in January except around my block which is .45. It took me a few days to realize I'll be doing 225 miles in January. Last two years I ran 115 for the year 🤣 . It's one way to get back at it
I run the mile on my first year in track and my best time was 6:29. I’m the worst mile runner in my grade by only about ten seconds. I just got spikes for my meet in a couple days and I hope to get around 6:10
Can you please make some race recaps please??? I LOVE THOSE VIDOES!
i agree
I hope when it's warmer you come out to the mid-Atlantic states. I haven't worn spikes in 25 years, so It would be fun to spike up again and race one more time.
This is exciting! I’m right behind you Nick! 75 lbs deadlift and 45 seconds to go! I’ll tag you the results when I get it :)
They make your feet and legs stronger which allows you to run faster. That comes with training in the spikes. Also spikes are light weight and provide more traction on the track which allows you to run faster. They make a huge difference.
Well for a second year of running pro HS XC spikes made a difference this year compared to last season but as i made a huge jump in shape spikes helped for sure even for a sucky middle school base running
I’m a sophomore in high school and I ran this exact mile time as my PR in this indoor track season.
Congrats bro! 👍
Thank you I’m trying to beat 5 minutes and I was wondering if my shoes actually mattered and I think you showed me they did so now I’m going to invest in some spikes
exited for this vid!! getting dragonflys this week before my first Hs indoor meet!!
spikes only make you faster and more efficient if your trained to wear them. if not use to them they can be inaficient with calfs putting in the extra work
I miss when this channel was the unedited nick symmonds
It's weird seeing the middle school I go to in the background of your vids lol
Nick....are you sure spikes make a 36 sec difference? That sounds extreme to me. What have you been doing between runs, what was the weather on both runs, etc. I'm sure you also had some benefit from the earlier time trial. Love the videos
Could also be nutrition and rest mixed with the grip. There’s always variables.
It was a 24 second difference, but the point still stands that spikes alone (probably) wouldn't give you that much improvement.
I miss these type of videos
same
Back to being happy
I ran at Wittenberg University on Saturday in my trainors because it's my first running season and I don't yet have spikes and my 400 split was 1:01!
For your mile? Thats kinda nuts
@@judahweesner2651 oh haha guess I did not word it well. It was just a 400M. I said my split bcus it was a relay.
Remember we are just humans.. flesh and bones… meat that rotten…the only thing last forever is our soul and what we made in life 😊
A kid on my track has a 4 min mile and I’m in junior high. That’s crazy to me
Is the app only available in the US? I’m in Canada and can’t find it
Hi Nick love your vids
thank you for watching them!
Uhh Nick what is happening down in the p area 1:48
He got really excited
Honestly, my current mile time is 6:02.37a any advice for a distance runner?
Edit- I know 6min miles seems slow I'm honestly trying to get down to at least 5:30.00 by the end of track this season.
I mean 6 isn’t shabby!😊 I’d just suggest doing a long distance run on the weekends during the season (6 days of training per week) Also recovery is rlly important because you can run higher quality workouts if your muscles feel good!! (So foam roll, stretch, and ice if needed!😊) Otherwise, try coming up with mental visualizations/games for races. (Like for my mile I think: “pace out the first one, second lap: catch someone, and then think of the last two laps as an “all out 800”) although you won’t have a lot of gas left lol😊 hope that helped!
Hey, you can definitely do it. Tips I have are probably 1. Up your weekly mileage, you wanna be doing lots of easy miles and probably get up to like 40 miles a week. 2. You wanna make sure that those easy/ long runs actually feel easy- you shouldn’t feel out of breath and should be able to talk with someone 3. Get enough sleep, enough water , and enough calories in. 4. Don’t forget speed work 5. Get fitted for some running shoes that match your running style it’ll really help
Great challenge. For overall wellness and athleticism, I'd opt for you as a runner - lighter, faster, V02 max. Lifting heavy is not as important as strength to weight ratio, IMO. Y ou really want to get in shape, do what you do best. Train for the 800 and go after some masters track titles and records. You're almost M40. If you could get down to 1:55, you could compete and possibly win at the World Masters level at age 40. How's that for a challenge? I know you're thinking, 'been there, done that' but it's a whole different thing post 40. I never ran an 800m race in my life til I was age 61, ran 2:18. Ran 56.23 400 same yr.
I bought some nike spikes for the upcoming indoor season and I'm hoping to break 4:50 in the mile.
edit: I got a 4:45 just yesterday
@@notSpencerJackson congrats! 🎉
another edit: I broke 4:40 with a 4:38
Hi Nick. Where can i buy the best sprinting spikes fir 200m
I've been racing and training with spikes on for a while and I always thought I was running faster in them but then I started video recording my 100 meter sprints and I run just as fast with spikes on as I do with normal running shoes. Why is that? Weak feet?
Impressive run. And also the fact that you are talking for five minutes straight 😄
Guys do you think that sub 6.7 60m and 600lb is possible? Last year the same day I ran 6.77 and did 460. Once I ran sub11, sub22, sub50 and the next day i did 510. I think I can improve but I have to keep my BW roughly the same and strenght and speed training does not colide at my peak speed.
Sub 10 in what distance?
@@jamiehosier lol sorry meant sub 11 in the 100
?? What is the time difference between running the mile in lane 1 vs lane 8. ??
A mile is a mile regardless of the lane, but there are some differences. The curb is not so tough on lane 8 tho, so it should be easier on lane 8 as you don't slow down as much as on lane 1. But you don't see anyone racing the mile in 8th lane :)
Hey Nick, distance runner here. A few weeks back I ran at my first meet. 11:29 3200m. Not the best but can be improved upon. As an Olympic runner, what would you suggest that I do to run faster? I have another meet in 5 days, got any tips. Thanks.
I run track as a distance guy too I think you should talk with your coaches first and see what they think because usually winter is a good set up for outdoor but yea really just stay healthy, keep up with your runs, and keep up with your target mileage for each week. Like the times you run now can be disappointing trust me I know that a lot but really if you stay consistent you’ll be way faster than you are now when you run your outdoor championship races!!
9x400 meters.
My question is in the video 🥳
Pretty cool experiment with the spikes. I'm a high schooler looking to get my 800 time down. Right now Im running a 1:58 indoor. Any tips for improvement?
Hi eli
@@ttesc9253 hi ttesc
Just stick to your training plan and enjoy training
I ran a 70.08 400 in trainers and no warmup and no competition ima train for a month and have all those things imagine how quick it will be the spike I am racing in is the Nike Zoom Rival XC 5 do you think that spike is good?
Great spike for XC but I'd use something different on the track
If you want a really good spike for the mile you could get dragonflies, if you want something cheaper just use the regular track zoom rivals. I use the Zoom Rival XC for the 3200 but they are not at all built for a 400
Still better than trainers
Do you think, if you got back into full 800m training and living like an elite athlete now, for say 2 years, would it be possible for you to break 1.50? For me this would be a super interesting experiment to see what age + non-optimal training does to your peak potential over 8.
This is crazy! Are you coming to Mesa AZ anytime soon?
No immediate plans, but we come down to AZ at least once or twice a year!
@@NickSymmondsToo sweet
Hello, I have a question as an inexperienced individual to a professional. Starting this year, I plan to study sports education and I still need a pair of shoes: 1. for the sports aptitude test (100m sprint and 3000m run) and 2. afterwards for the track and field semester. I'm still undecided whether to buy spikes (I'm leaning towards the "Puma Evospeed Distance Nitro Elite+ 2" or the "Puma evoSPEED Star 8") or to stick with regular running shoes and use my indoor shoes for the sprint. I would greatly appreciate a response.
Why is it that when I use spikes, I’m always getting injured?
it’s probably the way you are landing def record or ask others to watch u run
If it was anyone but Nick I would question training a 10k to lower your mile but I'm not about to question an Olympian on their training lol. I think you have the deadlift + mile in the bag but if there are any struggles increasing the max dead lift or being able to double 500lbs but only do it once would make that run about 5x easier not being a a max lift.
I ran 6:20 mile then a few weeks later I ran 5:50 in spikes. This was about 2 months ago, also I’m not a long distance runner I just wanted under 6 minute mile.
dude are you serious I want a sub 6 mile and I run a 6:20, without spikes. Do you think I should buy them?
@@Himothy_Bobbins it’s up to you but they definitely make a difference. If you run competitively then you definitely should get a pair.
Him: running a mile in 5 minutes
Me: can’t even walk to class in 5 minutes😭
my 400 meter personal best is 78.6 and im only 10 years old
Is the Nick Symmonds App only on iOS? I couldn't find it on the play store
It is available on Android and iOS but you have to access it through nicksymmondsfitapp.com Not trying to give Apple 30% of everything!
Obviously you are two weeks fitter compared to your previous time trial in trainers,+Nick Symmonds Too.
a little bit fitter with two weeks training. I would give the spikes about 80% of the credit here
@@NickSymmondsToo I see. Wow.
Runner first, trying to get more into lifting. Probably going to try out the app, but mainly want the lifting to improve my running as I'm an ultra runner who goes for long distance trail runs. Assume there is stuff in there to help with that?
I find it easy to run 5min mile but significantly slow down afterwards.
What about for for sprints? How much could I shave off with spikes vs without?
I wonder how much difference it would make to run a 400 meter on Alphafly vs spikes. And or how fast the prototype Viperfly would have been. Surprised no one made their own viperfly by combining shoe parts
bro it looked like your jogging but you beat my mile pr 5:18.4 congratulations
Nick ive only got one question for ya. Rail or no rail on the inner of lane 1?
what spikes are they?
I remember you in Tokyo Olympic 800 m. I think lifting 500 lbs is not good for your back at all!
😂
Lol he wasn’t in Tokyo plus let him deadlift 💀
what i would do to make it more accurate is sprint a 100 with shoes then spikes
hey nick what happened to road to sub 11?
he got injured
too many injuries
sub 11 for what?
@@josiahmatson4457 100m
I really wanna get spikes but I do athletics in school so I don't train alot and my parents think it's a waste of money
nick got any tip for the 600m? im racing it next week. im an 800m runner but I got some speed on me too *wink*
Run it just slower then a 400 like 1-2s slower then ur 400 pr pace then just hang on. If that doesn’t seem to work for you talk to your coach about different race strategies.
How much of the time would u attribute to spikes vs your training
great question, prob 80% the spikes
What happened to all the money challenges videos?
other channel
@@skoaluuni832 why... Lol 😂
Nick, this is not a knock on you. But the drone footage makes you look 300lbs.
Hey 👋
hello!
I have those spikes!
How are they? What do you usually run in them
Generally the shave 1 second per 100m
I know an 8th grader that ran 1.5 miles in your one mile time
Are sprinting spikes good for the 800m
I just use distance spikes but I’m sure you could use either
Trt 150mg?
Use Nike Air Zoom Victory’s
👏🤩🙌⛳
What is this comparison? Compare them to vapors at least.
nah this makes more sense, he’s really just showing an amateur whether or not you should buy spikes.
@@sawsy3863 nah he’s really just promoting his app while running a subpar mile in spikes.
@@itzStrFtw your comment doesn't even make sense dawg how's this relate to anything? You just sound dumb tbh
@@sawsy3863 hmmm how does my description of this video relate go this video.. that’s a hard one bro. Fkin monkey.
@@itzStrFtw how does running a subpar mile in spikes do shit for his app goofball
I did a mile in 5 mins and 48 secs 😊
You said your running 7.75 miles on jan 31st like its a big deal but that would have been nothing in your prime😂
Until he achieves this, Nick is still going to call himself a one trick pony (his words).
but it was a heck of a trick!! :D
Victory insoles
If im being honest spikes are dangerous
Not fast enough because I’m running with a injured knee
If you take the spikes out it might actually be faster
That's jogging not running
*nfl runningbacks have joined the chat*
They weigh like 200+ pounds and are strong as shit and also fast as fuck
One mile is 1,609.344 meters. You SHOULD have ran another 9.344 meters to call it a mile.
I miss these type of videos