Very rarely does a cover improve an original but the Bangles cover of this song is a great example of a huge improvement, well done Suzanne you gave this song an edge.
Though I love the recorded version, this was a great treat to see. This song (Jules Shear version) is definitely on my post-mortem mix list to share as a favorite for both the music and sentiments.
@74posy The Bangles's version is fantastic, but the natural honesty of this acoustic version is...words fail me. Truly an underated talent is Mr Shear.
Wow, I can't believe a lot of the comments where people are comparing a solo male voice with bare accompaniment to the full band sound of the Bangles! I loved both versions. I was surprised how closely the Bangles followed Shear's original album version which was as thrilling as the Bangles version. The guy wrote a killer song AND his original version is definitive because the Bangles covered it so closely. Great job by both.
This version sounds nothing like Jules' album recording, not sure why he took out all those cool chord changes... if you listen to Jules' intricate album version you understand what the Bangles were working with. Bangles producer David Kahne deserves a lot of credit for how their interpretation turned out, i think it's their best song even if it wasn't their biggest hit.
Jules is like Todd Rundgren....not in the main stream and very underpaid...but deserves much more - got no breeding, the only album I have ever had that EVERY song was good...a perfect collection.
I see where you are going but Todd has done a lot more accessible songs and this is really Jules's best song, I feel. Maybe you know a few great Jules songs to recommend as I really was lying before as I only know about 4 songs. Todd Rundgren's ballads, which I prefer over Laura's Nyros but not by much, owed a debt to Laura. His voice can sound charming but thin, but "Real Men" don't need robust or great voices. ( Consider this: Roger Daltry of the Who had vocals that became too bombastic at times (OK I just don't like the 70's Who songs). Todd has written some great songs: We Got to Get you a Woman/ A Dream Goes on Forever/ Real Man/Love is the Answer/ Can We still be Friends/ Hello It's Me/ Just One Victory/It Wouldn't Have Made Any Difference/ I saw the Light/Be Nice to Me. Todd has produced other bands and great songs such as "Love My Way" by the Psychedelic Furs and "Baby Blue" by Badfinger; also Patti Smith, Meatloaf, Sparks, XTC, and many more with mixed results. After listening to Laura's songs, Todd abruptly changed his style (or so he says) and released a solo album inspired by Nyro. One song on it was "Baby Let's Swing" which is uneven but still good. ruclips.net/video/ChQ_QFNd92Y/видео.html "Laura, I saw you open in LA ... There's just something I got to say, Laura, I saw you in that magazine .. Laura, You looked like a gypsy queen". It's interesting to me to hear Todd's casual, charming phrasing and tossing out off lines like "there's just something I got to say Laura" which makes his songs seem more intimate and real. I knew this song a bit but just listened to it again and it turns out Todd was being sarcastic and harsh after seeming to court Laura initially in this song!! Maybe the song was just a parody? Perhaps it is an attempt to explain to the informed listener why he decided not to record with Laura as they were to do an album together. He pulled out at the last minute - this is more of a job for Neil Young the ultimate pull-out artist. Todd's lyrics seem cruel and they seem to be censored online, confirming to me that "they" are trying to clean up his lyrics. For example: "I wish you'd take a look in your own backyard/To see that someone has seen it all/Seen you climb, seen you fall So Low"
@dommywaddle This isn't what his *original* version sounds like. It was originally the leading track on his album The Eternal Return, and it was pitched HIGHER than the Bangles version, as well as faster, and more synthy. Jules Shear used to sing up REALLY high, and he could do big harmony parts by himself in the studio.
@thismonkeyisnuts Yeah, but the weird thing is, some Jules Shear songs get pretty complex, using compound chords and non-root tones in the bass, here and there. That sort of thing is a lot harder to do in an open tuning. He plays keyboard also, which is probably how the more-complicated songs get written.
@MrAttPatt OOOH! DAMN good songs you mention. Demo-itis rocks, and Fenetiks is my favorite of the Polar Bears albums. I actually grew up considering Jules to be a great singer; it didn't occur to me until The Third Party that some people might not like his voice . . . !
I love this song so much I finally decided to listen to it by the author. I always thought Jules Shear was a girl LOL. It's not as good by him, but it's another take.
I've always enjoyed the original version of this song but I'm realizing Jules must have been a Dylan fan. He really sounds like him. The Bangles remake is also good - it's interesting to me because of the change of perspective ( from male to female). I feel Jules doesn't get much credit for his song because the Bangles version was so popular but both renditions are good in their own way.
@declanmacmanus Unless you're filthy rich, you probably shouldn't feel *sorry* for Jules Shear -- he does get songwriter royalties on five hit singles (This song, "All Through the Night", "Whispering Your Name", "If We Never Meet Again", and "So Easy To Begin"), and his own albums do sell modestly well. He's just not super-famous, and I get the impression he doesn't really wanna be. But yes, more people should hear his music.
@VideosbyJJ I like the comparison to Todd Rundgren. Although I agree he isn't in the mainstream, Rundgren has to be filthy rich. About ten years he sold his producer's royalty share in Meat Loaf's "Bat Out of Hell" for $7Million. (Somebody paid $7M just for that percentage of *future* sales on a 1970s album!) And that wasn't his only successful production. Plus, I think "Something/Anything?" still sells respectably. (Of course, in an ideal world, Jules would be rich, too.)
My opinion is this is the best song of Jules and Todd has at least 10 great songs. I tend not to like his Utopia or work since his solo days. Ballads are where it's at for Todd, I guess.
@74posy See what I said @dommywaddle . . . This isn't what Jules Shear's original recorded version sounds like at all. It's at the completely opposite end of the spectrum.
Not sure why he plays like that, what tuning is that? VERY strange to me, never seen that before. Noticed it right away. I prefer The Bangles version. This is very Dylan like.
This is brilliant. I really didn't like the Bangles version because it just didn't make sense in third person, from another woman! This version is far better. I finally get it. It's a hopeless long song lament to a girl he cannot satisfy. This version is beautiful, poignant poetry, especially this recording as it's slower and more melancholic :)
just notice his playing style on guitar :D with the thumb barring over all the strings, so different!! no one plays like him, i dont admire it, i just noticed that.... it says he was learning alone, but also.... this way??? oh. so strange. guitar players know what i mean, this is impossible style. song is okay ;)
I know he's the songwriter of this. It's a great song and he sings it just fine.....BUT. After viewing and hearing many of the songs on RUclips by Susanna Hoffs I'm afraid if given the option I'd listen first anytime to any version of any song done by Susanna Hoffs, with the Bangles, without the Bangles, acoustic, live, electrified, whatever. Susanna's voice, sexiness, the feeling she puts into her singing and her looks get me every time. She could sing the take-out menu from a Chinese restaurant and I'd listen all day long.
@@danielesteve8359 Yea I guess you could say that. But the combination of the way Susanna gives that sexy side-eye look, the way her voice sounds and just her overall sexiness, I find her fascinating.
Has anyone checked out his right hand on the fret board? WTF?! Crazy bar chording going on there, Jules! Open tuning? What the hell...? Great delivery on this, Dylan tab notwithstanding.
Not sure why he plays like that, what tuning is that? VERY strange to me, never seen that before. Noticed it right away. I prefer The Bangles version. This is very Dylan like.
This version is nothing like Jules' album version, not sure why he took out all those cool chord changes. If you listen to Jules' intricate album version you understand what the Bangles were working with. Bangles producer David Kahne deserves a lot of credit for how their version turned out, i think it is their best song even if it wasn't their biggest hit.
I mean...she married Michael after she had broken up with Jules (whom I believe she was dating when this was shot back in 1990). Gotta stop drinking in the morning.
Forgot about that. According to Aimee's wikipedia page, she didn't meet Michael Penn until 1993. The infallible Wikipedia also says that Aimee had already broken up with Jules Shear in 1988 when "J for Jules" was a track on 'Til Tuesday's third album. But anyway you slice it, it's a hell of a coincidence that Jules and Michael played together on that song.
The Bangles also did Going down to Liverpool and you could call the original by Katrina and the Waves low-key but it smokes their version.. Shear is a master craftsman when it comes to writing. Bangles peppiness just dilutes the original vein...
There's really no comparison to the original version on Jules's The Eternal Return album. The Bangles didn't do it justice, and neither does this slowed-down, pitched-down acoustic version.
One of the most beautiful voices ever. Every syllable is believable. His nuance is wonderment.
I love the underhand chord changes; so unbelievably cool, as a left hander
Brilliant performance of a fabulous song.
Very rarely does a cover improve an original but the Bangles cover of this song is a great example of a huge improvement, well done Suzanne you gave this song an edge.
Jules wrote it.
Good song. I always liked it .
Awesome version... obviously I knew the bangles first, but this one is also incredible. And the facr that she’s hurting HIM changes everything.
Though I love the recorded version, this was a great treat to see. This song (Jules Shear version) is definitely on my post-mortem mix list to share as a favorite for both the music and sentiments.
Love Him. I remember his all through the night as well, love his version, had to buy the album.
Incredible. It's bringing a tear to my eye
@74posy The Bangles's version is fantastic, but the natural honesty of this acoustic version is...words fail me. Truly an underated talent is Mr Shear.
I was disappointed in David Kahne’s arrangement of the Bangles version of the song. But their harmonies are all world, so it was still lovely.
Nice thanks for posting
Great writing, awesome tune!!
First time hearing this version...its great!
Thank you for the video - great version
This is from, I believe, the very first episode of MTV Unplugged. Jules was the host at the time.
Wow thanks for posting this, I always wanted to hear what the orginal sounded like
Wow, I can't believe a lot of the comments where people are comparing a solo male voice with bare accompaniment to the full band sound of the Bangles! I loved both versions. I was surprised how closely the Bangles followed Shear's original album version which was as thrilling as the Bangles version. The guy wrote a killer song AND his original version is definitive because the Bangles covered it so closely. Great job by both.
OH! This song so reminds me of someone I knew. I think most guys could say that. LOL.
This version sounds nothing like Jules' album recording, not sure why he took out all those cool chord changes... if you listen to Jules' intricate album version you understand what the Bangles were working with. Bangles producer David Kahne deserves a lot of credit for how their interpretation turned out, i think it's their best song even if it wasn't their biggest hit.
Yup. Total agreement. Best single they ever released.
@E.V. Hodge It's the best song they did. Perhaps that makes it their own.
A big lik great sounds lsubsclibed in your channal congratulations 😀✌
Jules is like Todd Rundgren....not in the main stream and very underpaid...but deserves much more - got no breeding, the only album I have ever had that EVERY song was good...a perfect collection.
I see where you are going but Todd has done a lot more accessible songs and this is really Jules's best song, I feel. Maybe you know a few great Jules songs to recommend as I really was lying before as I only know about 4 songs.
Todd Rundgren's ballads, which I prefer over Laura's Nyros but not by much, owed a debt to Laura. His voice can sound charming but thin, but "Real Men" don't need robust or great voices. ( Consider this: Roger Daltry of the Who had vocals that became too bombastic at times (OK I just don't like the 70's Who songs). Todd has written some great songs: We Got to Get you a Woman/ A Dream Goes on Forever/ Real Man/Love is the Answer/ Can We still be Friends/ Hello It's Me/ Just One Victory/It Wouldn't Have Made Any Difference/ I saw the Light/Be Nice to Me. Todd has produced other bands and great songs such as "Love My Way" by the Psychedelic Furs and "Baby Blue" by Badfinger; also Patti Smith, Meatloaf, Sparks, XTC, and many more with mixed results.
After listening to Laura's songs, Todd abruptly changed his style (or so he says) and released a solo album inspired by Nyro. One song on it was "Baby Let's Swing" which is uneven but still good. ruclips.net/video/ChQ_QFNd92Y/видео.html "Laura, I saw you open in LA ... There's just something I got to say, Laura, I saw you in that magazine .. Laura, You looked like a gypsy queen". It's interesting to me to hear Todd's casual, charming phrasing and tossing out off lines like "there's just something I got to say Laura" which makes his songs seem more intimate and real. I knew this song a bit but just listened to it again and it turns out Todd was being sarcastic and harsh after seeming to court Laura initially in this song!! Maybe the song was just a parody? Perhaps it is an attempt to explain to the informed listener why he decided not to record with Laura as they were to do an album together. He pulled out at the last minute - this is more of a job for Neil Young the ultimate pull-out artist. Todd's lyrics seem cruel and they seem to be censored online, confirming to me that "they" are trying to clean up his lyrics. For example: "I wish you'd take a look in your own backyard/To see that someone has seen it all/Seen you climb, seen you fall So Low"
@dommywaddle
This isn't what his *original* version sounds like. It was originally the leading track on his album The Eternal Return, and it was pitched HIGHER than the Bangles version, as well as faster, and more synthy. Jules Shear used to sing up REALLY high, and he could do big harmony parts by himself in the studio.
I started listening to Jules when he opened for Todd on tour with the polar bears. An apt comparison... both incredible song writers
Love the sixties sound! Didn't know Bangles took it from him
@MikeyMikeisMe
No, it isn't. It's the original songwriter doing an extremely different version of his original.
That's a tune.
Somewhat ironic to have Shear hosting Michael Penn. Jules was dating Aimee Mann about this time. Penn married her years later.
I’ve always thought that….
@thismonkeyisnuts
Yeah, but the weird thing is, some Jules Shear songs get pretty complex, using compound chords and non-root tones in the bass, here and there. That sort of thing is a lot harder to do in an open tuning. He plays keyboard also, which is probably how the more-complicated songs get written.
@MrAttPatt
OOOH! DAMN good songs you mention. Demo-itis rocks, and Fenetiks is my favorite of the Polar Bears albums. I actually grew up considering Jules to be a great singer; it didn't occur to me until The Third Party that some people might not like his voice . . . !
unexpected to find this having Shears playing his original with Michael Penn
I saw Penn in the beginning, but then the video cut out and back. That wasn't him playing on the song - I wonder who it was....
fuckin brilliant
Yes, that first season it was way more eclectic, more artists per show.
This was the very last show that gave me some hope for MTV! I enjoyed it so much, but of course, it didn't last!
I love this song so much I finally decided to listen to it by the author. I always thought Jules Shear was a girl LOL. It's not as good by him, but it's another take.
Nice
@weaver3000
No kidding! Thank you for pointing out that some people are comparing apples and oranges here!
I've always enjoyed the original version of this song but I'm realizing Jules must have been a Dylan fan. He really sounds like him. The Bangles remake is also good - it's interesting to me because of the change of perspective ( from male to female). I feel Jules doesn't get much credit for his song because the Bangles version was so popular but both renditions are good in their own way.
@declanmacmanus
Unless you're filthy rich, you probably shouldn't feel *sorry* for Jules Shear -- he does get songwriter royalties on five hit singles (This song, "All Through the Night", "Whispering Your Name", "If We Never Meet Again", and "So Easy To Begin"), and his own albums do sell modestly well. He's just not super-famous, and I get the impression he doesn't really wanna be. But yes, more people should hear his music.
the thumb man :)
25 years ago?
the bangles
@VideosbyJJ
I like the comparison to Todd Rundgren. Although I agree he isn't in the mainstream, Rundgren has to be filthy rich. About ten years he sold his producer's royalty share in Meat Loaf's "Bat Out of Hell" for $7Million. (Somebody paid $7M just for that percentage of *future* sales on a 1970s album!) And that wasn't his only successful production. Plus, I think "Something/Anything?" still sells respectably.
(Of course, in an ideal world, Jules would be rich, too.)
My opinion is this is the best song of Jules and Todd has at least 10 great songs. I tend not to like his Utopia or work since his solo days. Ballads are where it's at for Todd, I guess.
@74posy
See what I said @dommywaddle . . . This isn't what Jules Shear's original recorded version sounds like at all. It's at the completely opposite end of the spectrum.
Uau, linda canção !
Not sure why he plays like that, what tuning is that? VERY strange to
me, never seen that before. Noticed it right away. I prefer The Bangles
version. This is very Dylan like.
Asshole.
@@etiennedegaulle3817 yep, it's Open Asshole tuning, quite rare.
This is brilliant. I really didn't like the Bangles version because it just didn't make sense in third person, from another woman! This version is far better. I finally get it. It's a hopeless long song lament to a girl he cannot satisfy. This version is beautiful, poignant poetry, especially this recording as it's slower and more melancholic :)
Does anyone know where i can purchase THIS (slower version) from?
yeah the bangles did not talk about them :) @@yiqanuc
The girl could be looking at herself, trying to figure out why she can't keep a romance going.
The "she" in the song is the singer herself.
Open your mind, dude. In Spain we have female singers who sing in masculin since decades ago
How the hell does he play this whole song with his thumb?
Great moments in open tuning.
@7855waldo
Except that nowadays Bob Dylan totally sucks and can't sing for shit, but Jules is still in there making respectable albums.
Here because of mitch albom
The first phone call from heaven.
Waldo?
just notice his playing style on guitar :D with the thumb barring over all the strings, so different!! no one plays like him, i dont admire it, i just noticed that.... it says he was learning alone, but also.... this way??? oh. so strange. guitar players know what i mean, this is impossible style. song is okay ;)
I think the guitarist from the band crass taught himself to play this way too
I know he's the songwriter of this. It's a great song and he sings it just fine.....BUT. After viewing and hearing many of the songs on RUclips by Susanna Hoffs I'm afraid if given the option I'd listen first anytime to any version of any song done by Susanna Hoffs, with the Bangles, without the Bangles, acoustic, live, electrified, whatever. Susanna's voice, sexiness, the feeling she puts into her singing and her looks get me every time. She could sing the take-out menu from a Chinese restaurant and I'd listen all day long.
yeah, nah; gotta have those Bangles harmonies!
That is the truth. Susanna is the best.
That's charisma
@@danielesteve8359 Yea I guess you could say that. But the combination of the way Susanna gives that sexy side-eye look, the way her voice sounds and just her overall sexiness, I find her fascinating.
Has anyone checked out his right hand on the fret board? WTF?! Crazy bar chording going on there, Jules! Open tuning? What the hell...? Great delivery on this, Dylan tab notwithstanding.
Not sure why he plays like that, what tuning is that? VERY strange to me, never seen that before. Noticed it right away. I prefer The Bangles version. This is very Dylan like.
@jamiegrifter
Oh, come on now. Alison Moyet's version of "Whispering Your Name" was nothing compared to Jules's Watch Dog version.
great song writer just let oter people sing them please! Prefer te Banlges, cyndi lauper and Alison Moyets versions of his songs!
This version is nothing like Jules' album version, not sure why he took out all those cool chord changes. If you listen to Jules' intricate album version you understand what the Bangles were working with. Bangles producer David Kahne deserves a lot of credit for how their version turned out, i think it is their best song even if it wasn't their biggest hit.
It's the most Bangle-like song off of Different Light for sure...that and "September Gurls".
I mean...she married Michael after she had broken up with Jules (whom I believe she was dating when this was shot back in 1990). Gotta stop drinking in the morning.
Forgot about that. According to Aimee's wikipedia page, she didn't meet Michael Penn until 1993. The infallible Wikipedia also says that Aimee had already broken up with Jules Shear in 1988 when "J for Jules" was a track on 'Til Tuesday's third album. But anyway you slice it, it's a hell of a coincidence that Jules and Michael played together on that song.
Lembro quando me pediu em casamento foi tão lindo
@fuzzypige222 Cigarette? Blindfold?
This is the original, Simetrico.
I'm sure glad the Bangles did it........
The Bangles also did Going down to Liverpool and you could call the original by Katrina and the Waves low-key but it smokes their version..
Shear is a master craftsman when it comes to writing. Bangles peppiness just dilutes the original vein...
You're an idiot!!
Both versions are great!!
#ugottalisten2b4udie
hermoso,,, mucho mejor que la version original de las bangles,,, simplemente jules es bueno en esto
white guy with acoustic guitar?
Pretty sure Michael married Aimee after she broke up with Jules. Still...
HE SOUNDS DRUNK.
The sixties
I don't consider Jules to be a good singer at all. My hats off to him as a songwriter though.
Mocks Bob Dylan
Such dismissiveness from a low perch, Bob would be amused.
i knew, but i really hate it!
There's really no comparison to the original version on Jules's The Eternal Return album. The Bangles didn't do it justice, and neither does this slowed-down, pitched-down acoustic version.
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