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This is the obvious answer and I don't know why they won't do it. I don't want to be the tank and the healer. I want to heal and do my little DPS and healing schtick like I would in a dungeon.
Remember everyone his Brann is 33 and i did not pay attention to his toons ilvl. So take that into account as well as that will be a big diff in ease of delves.
@@allmight1799 I’ve only done 4 bountiful delves. Still fairly easy as a low geared tank so not sure what the fuss has been about. I get pure dps classes but any hybrid it’s a cake walk.
This is a tough piece of content to balance. Running this as DPS, you are just so squishy. Run it as heals and you are squishy with long kill times. It's very much favoring tanks, who can take the hits. The answer shouldn't be "Just run it as a tank" or "Just run it in groups". It's solo content first and should be reasonably accessible to all classes up through Tier 8 as long as you are geared at the appropriate level and play at a a reasonable level of competence (Heroic Dungeon).
As of right now, the delves are so messed up… if you do T1 farming like me you notice it… brann 32, 606 ilvl and I can get destroyed or being invincible… with the same delves and the same relics on brann that is. Why the heck is it so inconsistent…
No not competence lvl of a Heroic Player and go like 8 tier delves. Wirh this lvl auf competence you would go lvl 5 delves. Lvl 8 delves giving you 616 chest which is later Boss heroic. It should be Hard and not accessible by everyone
@@bachneunaugemcfliegenpups7460 I don’t know what you are talking about, but get 4m instant dmg is not incompetence lol… I actually cleared all my bounty delves even as of today, what I say is, they don’t work properly, you get in nightfall sanctum, you get barely hit a few times 40k, you can ignore the mobs and move on… but then, you get out and back in and the first monster hits you 500k 8 times in 2sec, which most dps classes can’t out pace. You get out, you get in, you are on the invincible one again…
@@OnlyGhostType if players don't take any damage then it might as well have an auto play button. Is the damage too much? Yes. Is it an easy fix? Yes. Does it require a tank spec? No. They just need to create a Delvers buff that adjusts player stats based on role and party size. They can leave everything exactly the way it is and stop fucking up enemy stats and just make the buff give solo DPS +HP, +DMG reduction, etc.
I did all my delves(level8) solo as an enhancment shaman with Bran on damage. Sometimes difficult but all doable. It was fun and the rewards were also very good in terms of ilvl.
class specific. haven't failed one with my gf either, but because i am playing tank. and as a tank i can do those delves even at 20 ilevel lower than recommended without issue. other classes struggle with 20 ilevel more than recommended
Ive been doing delves as a healer with two dps friends and dps brann and it's been tough. Sometimes people just drop coz they looked at the second screen for a second. You have to pay attention all the time. Even though we are decently geared it almost feels like gear does not really matter in terms of tankyness. Before the changes it was so chill. We just laughed and did stuff and now everyone hates it.
Ff14 had an interesting solution to this type of problem with their Bozjan content. Give the tanks a consumable that buffs their damage in delve content. Give the dps a consumable that buffs their tankiness in delve content. Give heals a mix of both. At the end then youre basically playing a flavored version of your role strong enough to solo difficult content.
I also play ww and have felt pretty squishy in delves to the point I prefer bm, will try this out. Update alright either there was another hotfix or that second curio, the zekvir one, is required for this to work because I'm getting trucked, have already died once, and feel like I have to use my heal because Brann's potions just sometimes aren't out fast enough. Could just be the delve too though, skittering breach hurts today.
I initially had Brann as a healer on day one of the delves, but in T8 I just thought he was worthless. So, I went tank, set him to damage and it has worked out ok for the most part. But based on your video I went and did Kriegval's Rest, which is probably one of the easier T8s, set Brann to healer and it actually went pretty well. He was dropping potions fairly frequently and he broke out that healing ball that tethers to you, twice. Again, this was one of the simpler ones, but I had all but given up going Fury in the upper tier delves and now maybe I am rethinking that. So, thanks for that. BTW, my brann is also 33 and apparently stuck there for the foreseeable future..I guess.
I was running T8 with all ease as prot war prior to the update. I’ve never played prot in my life prior to delves. Post update I’ve been running them as Fury And Bran as a healer and it’s been working well.
As bm hunter i always used brann as healer. He drops 3 flasks on the ground plus a 4, if you use the idol. The flask heals myself and more important, my pets. Some elites do 1 million dmg to my pet with 3 million hp. The flasks heal 20 % hp, so with 4 flasks my pet is always max hp. I dont need brann as a dps i want him to be a support.
Completed a bunch of tier 8 delves today (as ele shaman), and found Bran to be very inconsistent, both when set as dps or healer. Sometimes he'll help, sometimes not. Was kiting the Bogpiper boss up and down the room and I couldn't even see where Bran was most of the time. Might as well have been soloing that boss. Maybe that's a weakness of healer Bran, i.e. if the fight is on the move, Bran's contribution will drop substantially.
I've been running him as healer for a couple days. I said people were sleeping on healer brann. It's definitely the way now. But I still use arrowhead and the size curios.
I came to the same conclusion yesterday, switched him to healer and was able to complete the delve. It is still challenging than it used to but I am fine with that. It's the first week of the season... and we are using the same curios!
As demo lock i cleared solo delves t8 before the changes using bran as a healer all the time. You just take your time and not rush things ;) casual no rush play is the way to go, cous you till need your cooldowns to reset (like healthstones, potions etc)
@Scottejaye Yes. I would be willing to bet that the majority of the player base has Branns below 25. I have one of the highest in my guild and he's 24.
I've been doing bountifuls on 5 80's and mine is at 37 but they must have inserted some sort of cap around Thursday because he hasn't gained a single exp since.
@@Scottejayeyeah, but you’ve already spent like one whole day exclusively on delves. You won’t get 33 level by casual playing, and even my guildies who are considered semi-nonlifers have 25-30 lvl Brann 😂
@@Scottejaye I've been playing since start, gathering like 90% of the available keys on 2 chars, and a few more on an alt and my Brann is "only" lvl 28. Don't be full of shit, 95% of the players don't play that much.
Can confirm. Tried my first tier 8 yesterday at 588 and was having a very hard time with damage bran. Switched him to healer and fairly easily cleared all 4 for the day. Challenging but if you can dodge mechanics you're fine.
Thank you …. I’ll try this. My warlock has been great at tier 8s even with the changes and running bran “dps” 😅 if you can call it that anymore, but my mage and balance druid can not get through a tier 8 at all so I feel I have left them behind. My bran is also 33 and my warlock 604, my balance druid 580 but my warlock was fine back at that ilvl. I haven’t tried yet with my monk, might level a few of my other lvl 70 alts to 80 too. The delves rebalancing so much and my warlock only having one semi-decent spec in raids have me second guessing what my main even is anymore 😆 Not going to lie, feeling frustrated.
I was running fistweave/dmg brann. It definitely gets the job done, but slowly. I switched to WW/Heal Brann and im much happier. Those pots are op, but they can be hard to see sometimes.
Just go slow, drop the candle etc when fighting and move around and he will heal you ok. At the boss fights don't merge the light/air have two a little apart so you can run between them to avoid aoe and use range.
Here’s the problem with this. Leveling up Brann stops at what. 15? Unless you do bountiful delves ? THIS is where blizzard screwed up. Nobody talks about this very much. That’s the problem right there. Remove that cap. So we can level up Brann ANYWHERE and get him strong enough to support us.
Best way to do delves. Just ignore they exist and get some extra valor. Difficulty asside the way they uped hp with 1500% is just the dumbest change in 20 years of wow. Its so much fun to pull 1 elite and fight him for a solid 5+minutes no thanks il go do something fun with my time
My Brann is lvl 26 so not that high as some have him close to 40. I solo t8 delves with 5 different classes. Sure, my dk has an easier time than my warrior, but i manage. So i dont know why so many ppl are complaining they cant finish one with their classes. Some tips: - adjust your build per delve: taking all defensives is not always the smartest idea. Eg. I take the 15% movement speed on my druid which lets me kite easier. - dont play every class the same. Eg even though a dk and a warrior are melee, i play them both entirely differently. Get out of your group dungeon comfort zone and think about your pulls and what might happen afterwards before pulling. - there is no time limit. So noone is forcing you to finish it 15 minutes. My first t5 delve took me about an hour because i play them like permadeath, without the 5 lives, makes push and think harder. - ppl say they fail with ilvl 585. T8 drops 603. Thats 18 ilvl below. If you upgrade your gear, you upgrade it per 3-4ilvl for idk how many valorstones and crests so trust me when i say that even though 585 is fine on some classes, it isnt on other and you may want to go for 590+ ilvl before doing t8 solo. This all being said, its supposed to be fun. If youre not having fun and have to watch vids on how to do, move on to something else. Do some pvp etc which also gives 597 gear and come back to faceroll those t8 delves.... HF & GL
Actually, I used him as heals this entire time but I switched to Mountain Thane Prot Warrior and set him as DPS. Breeze through L8 delves now (haven't tried him after the hotfix tho)
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Hoping they iron out how ass delves are in the second season. I am not asking for them to be trivial. I am asking them to function properly and be consistent day to day.
After brann went above 20 his potioms started to actually heal, and with a little caution tier 8 is very doable, alnost comfortably dare i say. The final bosses are a bit tough but something should be! I think im about to start farming t9 with my ele.
I have done level 8 delves on a DK, DH, and Lock. With DK and DH I had to go tank spec to be able to survive, and with Lock the voidwalker can't hold aggro at all, so I have to go Demo for the felguard to tank just to clear trash.
I've beed running as dps DH and heal Brann from the start and didn't find myself being too squishi. Brann heal is pretty good and having a stack of health potions which are very cheap makes t8 very easy
Depends on the boss. Delves bosses where it’s mostly just a bunch of crap to dodge, DPS Brann is fine for me. Delves where a boss has a lot of unavoidable damage, Healer Brann is the Man.
@@melanp4698 personally, I would say that puppeteer version of nerubian lord is harder - if you don't have a health pot, you'll likely die if you don't kill the boss before this 3rd channeled ability - it hits like 1.5m per tick
Brann is healing me for like 565k every 3 second when I eat 3 potions, thats just from the HoT you get. I do play Warlock so I did not have much trouble before those hotfixes but now its really not that hard tbh, just takes like 15 minutes to complete a T8 probably because of low ilvl (580 atm).
I had no issues doing a T7 solo on my 564 survival hunter with Brann as damage. But when my wife joined me on her resto Druid it was rough getting through a 5 and we couldn’t even finish a 6 without running out of revives. Feels like delves are either solo or full group which is disappointing.
As a 604 Guardian druid Brann's damage never felt that bad when he was set to dps. I have him set to dos when im solo and healer when other people join.
It’s beyond me that he doesn’t need to use a single CD or CCs… I’ve done many 8s (about 75-100) and completed Zek’Vir solo and 11 solo on Spriest, balance Druid and Prot Warrior (Amaelina, Amaelìna, Såråh-Altar of Storms if you need to armoury verify). If I don’t use the maximum utilities of my classes, I get absolutely annihilated-there are abilities like burn away on Waxface that destroy my priest if I don’t disperse, web bolts and fireballs that 1/4 my hp if not interrupted, insane limitless/through LoS abilities on some some Nerubian bosses that require shield wall or death. Now, granted I don’t know his ilvl-I’m yet to have a single character clear ilvl 600 so far, but it still seems crazy to never use a single CD or CC when you have fireballs casually cleaning you up for 1-2 million per hit.
Since the recent Brann "fix" he keeps on dying to bosses from the aoe or random stuff :D His dmg is severly nerfed but i also noticed that his healing potions now heal for like 1,5mil.
t8 bountiful solo i use healer bran for 3 rogues (2 sub 1 outlaw) and dps bran for arcane mage, marks hunter and ret pally. t8 bountifuls solo for the classes/specs i mentioned have been a bit of a joke honestly my ret was fresh 80 with 550 ilvl 571 weapon and was the easiest for t8. hardest part of the delves is just rotating cooldowns for the unavoidable aoe damage the bosses do.
I tried t8 on my hunter. I am undergeared for it and couldn't do it. If I was better geared I think I could possibly solo it. My Bran is only lvl 16 though. I feel that makes the biggest difference. Will try on my prot pally today.
Have gone heals with Porcelain and Amorphous relics on all 16 toons the whole time. He's now level 53. 95% reliable although doesn't always drop the healing pots when you want, but the near-death medicine chests are awesome. What I don't really understand is how he does so little damage as a healer (like less than 10% my damage/dps), but constantly pulls aggro and the adds run all over the place - very annoying on my melee toons. It's like he has a healer taunt even when no dinosaur helping. The fact he stands on relics so you can't click them without constantly changing camera angle, throws campfires in webs and under spores, etc, is also annoying.
Does brann actually make any difference? I just remember him being set as DPS and throwing out pots like candy, then I switch him to heal and he does nothing until I die and he throws out that Orb for my duo. Truely game mechanics working as intended. Guess its not borrowed power if it was never yours. You just need to build it regardless.
went into the delves (fungus follies) first layer after doing it, and there are tons of quests inside from the NPC's. I cannot believe no one has mentioned the multiple quests inside after clearing a layer. walk up to the npc click it, and it'll give you a quest inside the delve.
i don’t think i ever chose bran dps… being dps myself i figured having him heal made more sense. what i don’t get is all the solo people complaining delves were too hard when many times they were below the tier recommended ilvl.
I think you need to try other classes first before saying "this is what you do" because not all classes have the kit a monk has. As someone with everything at 80 but DK and DH i can tell you that monk is one of the easiest roles to get content way above its level/ilvl done. My healing monk with healing monk gear swapped to windwalker at 550 ilvl can still do t8 where my 600ilvl priest can't even deal with a small pack of the weakest enemies without mind control and using all its mana as a shadowpriest. The issue is no tank spec for brann. If we flat out look at the classes stuggling its ones which have no mitigation for direct auto attacks plus ways to stop spell casts. Webmancers still hit for 500k a cast at 1.8 seconds each cast, and a pack with 2 of them is basically impossible with some classes without bringing a duo who is a tank. Setting Brann to healer isn't going to help casters who are struggling right now in delves. I would be just running to each brann potion doing no damage constantly.
Are there any macros that we can use to have Brann start attacking first? I as a Lock want to have him go in and then use my Felguard to back him up. As Aflic the Blueberry just does SHIT for tanking.
I run as survival hunter and alwise done healer to help me be healty thats whay i did a 10 or so with 20 les item lv then recomend. But hunter is very good att delv is the pac to big and you dont know if you can survive it just throw a frezz trap down on one of them before you pull the rest. You have tar trap to slow and root you have your pet to tank and you got alot of cc and alot of mobility to run awey and heal. And most importent turtal stand to get thro strong dmg with no problem😂 also got stealth to ignore anoying pulls But i can imagen alot other dmg classes will have it alot harder to deal with hige tear delv. Delvs is fun but can be bullahit sometimes depending on your luck with the mini boss spawn. Like the 2 spider ppl hate them and avoid them alwise if i can
That’s part of the problem. Not having to use any CD’s or even stuns to get a tier 8 means it’s too easy. High tier delves should expect some level of class mastery.
I have only used Healer brann cause my fury warrior was and still is kinda a glass cannon at times. Also I rarely if ever have Brann tank cause he could never hold aggro lol
Your Bran must be broken because mine is wrecking havoc. I'm a ret paladin with 600 item level and I use Bran(lvl30) as a damage dealer because he basically makes me able to kill packs of mobs before they kill me instead of playing the sustain game. His 30% execute on mobs is particularly juicy which he only gets as dps. I'm going to give healer Bran a try though.
My brann's curios are bugged, done loads of delves never got a single upgrade for them they're all 1/4 except Zekvirs. Also the achievement for all curios is also bugged, got Relicblood of Zekvir but the achieve says i dont have it...
So have they liked fixed shit as doing t8s with no kicks etc? At 584ilvl i was getting hammered, 300k healing plus healing brann and id die. On bosses no kick means me being 1 shot by a dot that ticks for 900k.dmg...
@@DrBeerGames Okay man. Confirmed. This works 110% better than what I thought it would. Managed to do a tier 8 as fury warrior in the waterworks of all places. Brann's healing is genuinely insane and the damage buff from that epic relic in the video was extremely helpful. Didn't even die once!
@@benl5251 Oh dude no way I'm fury warrior too. I'm ilvl 589 so might have a slightly tougher time but good to know this strategy seems to work really well. Thank you!
Not even close to right man. Tier 8 is only doable solo with my paladin. I did Shaman and DH and both get almost 1 shot by every hit. Blow all CDs and use stuns and interrupts...doesn't matter. You aren't getting our of the first room. They are tuned very poorly. My Paladin can run through smooth bc of Bubble and self heals but Bran is useless. Mine is level 38 and he heals for nothing and does no damage. Just now, 649k dps and 245k HPS. Bran was 10% of my healing. If you don't have a toon that can heal you aren't doing these currently.
I did two t8 yesterday on my ilvl 593 Rog so not a big sample but apart from bosses it was not hard. Bosses made me respec and pay more attention to where healing potions are and when to use what so that was surely challenging but very doable
Quick everyone run back to delves and finish your keys before Healer Brann gets the hammer! For anyone wondering, Blizzards theme song is "Same Old Song And Dance" by Aerosmith.
Fury warrior has trouble soloing T8 as of yesterday now I’m not ilvl600 yet I’m 588 never made it past 2nd room. My bran is lvl 17 when i farmed delves I noticed he stopped lvling at 15 so I stopped doing them.
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They screwed up with “dwarven medicine” I would have called them “Brann’d aids”
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@willyknickers9295 this is what my brain read above 😂 I prefer it
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I always used him as heals because I’d run as tanks. They really need a tank spec for him so he auto taunts mobs you get threat on
agreed. that way my rogue can have a chance to solo
This is the obvious answer and I don't know why they won't do it. I don't want to be the tank and the healer. I want to heal and do my little DPS and healing schtick like I would in a dungeon.
I run as a tank (for Delves) and have him as a dps. That said, I play a dk so my sustain is fine.
@@michaelc1541yeah same I completed some tier 11s with him as dps and he did like 1 million dps throughout the whole thing I just had to stay alive
@@karmabum21 ive been soloing alright with my rogue. healer brann is the way to go out of the current options but i would like a tank option as well.
Remember everyone his Brann is 33 and i did not pay attention to his toons ilvl. So take that into account as well as that will be a big diff in ease of delves.
My Brann is 17, 375 ilvl guardian and tier 8 isn’t much of an issue set to dps. Died once because I got greedy and over pulled
Yeah, "Only lvl 33". Lolwhat? My Bran is like lvl 19...
You're cruising delve 8's on a MOP era ilvl toon? Okay dude @@tazer9735
@@mattjohnson380 WTF mine is 40 lol how do you guys have low level brans?
@@allmight1799 I’ve only done 4 bountiful delves. Still fairly easy as a low geared tank so not sure what the fuss has been about. I get pure dps classes but any hybrid it’s a cake walk.
This is a tough piece of content to balance. Running this as DPS, you are just so squishy. Run it as heals and you are squishy with long kill times. It's very much favoring tanks, who can take the hits. The answer shouldn't be "Just run it as a tank" or "Just run it in groups". It's solo content first and should be reasonably accessible to all classes up through Tier 8 as long as you are geared at the appropriate level and play at a a reasonable level of competence (Heroic Dungeon).
As of right now, the delves are so messed up… if you do T1 farming like me you notice it… brann 32, 606 ilvl and I can get destroyed or being invincible… with the same delves and the same relics on brann that is. Why the heck is it so inconsistent…
No not competence lvl of a Heroic Player and go like 8 tier delves. Wirh this lvl auf competence you would go lvl 5 delves. Lvl 8 delves giving you 616 chest which is later Boss heroic. It should be Hard and not accessible by everyone
It's literally a dungeon. It's not hard to balance. Make it so packs do low damage so dps and healers have no issues, and tanks can do big pulls.
@@bachneunaugemcfliegenpups7460 I don’t know what you are talking about, but get 4m instant dmg is not incompetence lol… I actually cleared all my bounty delves even as of today, what I say is, they don’t work properly, you get in nightfall sanctum, you get barely hit a few times 40k, you can ignore the mobs and move on… but then, you get out and back in and the first monster hits you 500k 8 times in 2sec, which most dps classes can’t out pace. You get out, you get in, you are on the invincible one again…
@@Ecliptor. except it was marketed as solo content, so what you said doesn’t align with that.
Honestly i am really surprised they did not think to have, or added by now, a tank spec for bran lol
They thought of it. They didn't do it because then it would be braindead easy at all tiers.
@@Akihito_Kanbara but DPS can't face tank the mobs even with bran as a healer. Fireball spell from a small ass rat dude is hitting like a truck looool
@@OnlyGhostType if players don't take any damage then it might as well have an auto play button.
Is the damage too much? Yes.
Is it an easy fix? Yes.
Does it require a tank spec? No.
They just need to create a Delvers buff that adjusts player stats based on role and party size. They can leave everything exactly the way it is and stop fucking up enemy stats and just make the buff give solo DPS +HP, +DMG reduction, etc.
@@OnlyGhostTypeI’ve been doing 8s perfectly fine as a WW monk and teamed with a noob arcane mage.
I did all my delves(level8) solo as an enhancment shaman with Bran on damage. Sometimes difficult but all doable. It was fun and the rewards were also very good in terms of ilvl.
Been loving the delves before and after the fixes. Haven’t failed an 8 solo or grouped with my gf who’s been playing wow for one week.
class specific. haven't failed one with my gf either, but because i am playing tank. and as a tank i can do those delves even at 20 ilevel lower than recommended without issue. other classes struggle with 20 ilevel more than recommended
Ive been doing delves as a healer with two dps friends and dps brann and it's been tough. Sometimes people just drop coz they looked at the second screen for a second. You have to pay attention all the time. Even though we are decently geared it almost feels like gear does not really matter in terms of tankyness. Before the changes it was so chill. We just laughed and did stuff and now everyone hates it.
Ff14 had an interesting solution to this type of problem with their Bozjan content. Give the tanks a consumable that buffs their damage in delve content. Give the dps a consumable that buffs their tankiness in delve content. Give heals a mix of both. At the end then youre basically playing a flavored version of your role strong enough to solo difficult content.
I also play ww and have felt pretty squishy in delves to the point I prefer bm, will try this out.
Update alright either there was another hotfix or that second curio, the zekvir one, is required for this to work because I'm getting trucked, have already died once, and feel like I have to use my heal because Brann's potions just sometimes aren't out fast enough. Could just be the delve too though, skittering breach hurts today.
I initially had Brann as a healer on day one of the delves, but in T8 I just thought he was worthless. So, I went tank, set him to damage and it has worked out ok for the most part.
But based on your video I went and did Kriegval's Rest, which is probably one of the easier T8s, set Brann to healer and it actually went pretty well. He was dropping potions fairly frequently and he broke out that healing ball that tethers to you, twice.
Again, this was one of the simpler ones, but I had all but given up going Fury in the upper tier delves and now maybe I am rethinking that. So, thanks for that.
BTW, my brann is also 33 and apparently stuck there for the foreseeable future..I guess.
I was running T8 with all ease as prot war prior to the update. I’ve never played prot in my life prior to delves. Post update I’ve been running them as Fury And Bran as a healer and it’s been working well.
As bm hunter i always used brann as healer. He drops 3 flasks on the ground plus a 4, if you use the idol. The flask heals myself and more important, my pets. Some elites do 1 million dmg to my pet with 3 million hp. The flasks heal 20 % hp, so with 4 flasks my pet is always max hp. I dont need brann as a dps i want him to be a support.
Bran's flasks have only been healing me 2%, not 20%.
@@SomeUniqueHandle I have 5 million Hp and 1 Flask heals me for over a 1 million
Completed a bunch of tier 8 delves today (as ele shaman), and found Bran to be very inconsistent, both when set as dps or healer. Sometimes he'll help, sometimes not. Was kiting the Bogpiper boss up and down the room and I couldn't even see where Bran was most of the time. Might as well have been soloing that boss. Maybe that's a weakness of healer Bran, i.e. if the fight is on the move, Bran's contribution will drop substantially.
I've been running him as healer for a couple days. I said people were sleeping on healer brann. It's definitely the way now. But I still use arrowhead and the size curios.
Try arrowhead and the one that increases the number of potions
@@jonathanr49 I think amorphous relic is way too good to pass up, but that one could be good if you need more healing, I never tried it.
Classes are weird for delves. Some classes/specs have alot of stuff in their kit to help out. While others just gets wrecked if not careful.
It worked like a charm, my ret is 590 and the WW monk is 596, no issues at all.
Thank you!
Edited: Delves lvl 8.
I came to the same conclusion yesterday, switched him to healer and was able to complete the delve. It is still challenging than it used to but I am fine with that. It's the first week of the season... and we are using the same curios!
As demo lock i cleared solo delves t8 before the changes using bran as a healer all the time. You just take your time and not rush things ;) casual no rush play is the way to go, cous you till need your cooldowns to reset (like healthstones, potions etc)
That opening roasting Bran just made me sub instantly.
"only" level 33... okay buddy
You been playing the game? Most people are using multiple characters, i don't even have an alt lol
@Scottejaye Yes. I would be willing to bet that the majority of the player base has Branns below 25. I have one of the highest in my guild and he's 24.
I've been doing bountifuls on 5 80's and mine is at 37 but they must have inserted some sort of cap around Thursday because he hasn't gained a single exp since.
@@Scottejayeyeah, but you’ve already spent like one whole day exclusively on delves. You won’t get 33 level by casual playing, and even my guildies who are considered semi-nonlifers have 25-30 lvl Brann 😂
@@Scottejaye I've been playing since start, gathering like 90% of the available keys on 2 chars, and a few more on an alt and my Brann is "only" lvl 28. Don't be full of shit, 95% of the players don't play that much.
As a healer, this is rough
It’s been very tough as a holy priest
Let Brann take the aggro and chill
@@syned149 he has really bad threat generation. your heals will out threat him.
go with 2 dps friends
@@RobolusMaximus yea just require friends when every other spec requires nobody else. completely reasonable balance. very convenient for healers.
Can confirm. Tried my first tier 8 yesterday at 588 and was having a very hard time with damage bran. Switched him to healer and fairly easily cleared all 4 for the day. Challenging but if you can dodge mechanics you're fine.
I've only used him as heals, the whole time
The fed up there should be two companions to fill each roll
Will try this out tonight. Ty Scotty!
Thank you …. I’ll try this. My warlock has been great at tier 8s even with the changes and running bran “dps” 😅 if you can call it that anymore, but my mage and balance druid can not get through a tier 8 at all so I feel I have left them behind. My bran is also 33 and my warlock 604, my balance druid 580 but my warlock was fine back at that ilvl. I haven’t tried yet with my monk, might level a few of my other lvl 70 alts to 80 too. The delves rebalancing so much and my warlock only having one semi-decent spec in raids have me second guessing what my main even is anymore 😆 Not going to lie, feeling frustrated.
I was running fistweave/dmg brann. It definitely gets the job done, but slowly. I switched to WW/Heal Brann and im much happier. Those pots are op, but they can be hard to see sometimes.
Just go slow, drop the candle etc when fighting and move around and he will heal you ok. At the boss fights don't merge the light/air have two a little apart so you can run between them to avoid aoe and use range.
Here’s the problem with this. Leveling up Brann stops at what. 15? Unless you do bountiful delves ? THIS is where blizzard screwed up. Nobody talks about this very much. That’s the problem right there.
Remove that cap. So we can level up Brann ANYWHERE and get him strong enough to support us.
omg thank you so much, this helped me immensely
I appreciate you brother.
Best way to do delves. Just ignore they exist and get some extra valor. Difficulty asside the way they uped hp with 1500% is just the dumbest change in 20 years of wow. Its so much fun to pull 1 elite and fight him for a solid 5+minutes no thanks il go do something fun with my time
My Brann is lvl 26 so not that high as some have him close to 40. I solo t8 delves with 5 different classes. Sure, my dk has an easier time than my warrior, but i manage. So i dont know why so many ppl are complaining they cant finish one with their classes.
Some tips:
- adjust your build per delve: taking all defensives is not always the smartest idea. Eg. I take the 15% movement speed on my druid which lets me kite easier.
- dont play every class the same. Eg even though a dk and a warrior are melee, i play them both entirely differently. Get out of your group dungeon comfort zone and think about your pulls and what might happen afterwards before pulling.
- there is no time limit. So noone is forcing you to finish it 15 minutes. My first t5 delve took me about an hour because i play them like permadeath, without the 5 lives, makes push and think harder.
- ppl say they fail with ilvl 585. T8 drops 603. Thats 18 ilvl below. If you upgrade your gear, you upgrade it per 3-4ilvl for idk how many valorstones and crests so trust me when i say that even though 585 is fine on some classes, it isnt on other and you may want to go for 590+ ilvl before doing t8 solo.
This all being said, its supposed to be fun. If youre not having fun and have to watch vids on how to do, move on to something else. Do some pvp etc which also gives 597 gear and come back to faceroll those t8 delves....
HF & GL
Actually, I used him as heals this entire time but I switched to Mountain Thane Prot Warrior and set him as DPS. Breeze through L8 delves now (haven't tried him after the hotfix tho)
Exactly
what I was doing
enjoyed the video! but unrelated to the topic, where did you get that awesome Draenei Paladin poster behind you? That scene in the Burning Crusade cinematic is the only reason I created a paladin. I would love to get my hands on that.
Not sure if the link will work here but it was part of a poster book i ordered a couple of years back (this isn't an affiliate link or anything like that) - www.amazon.co.uk/Warcraft-Poster-Collection-Insights-Collections/dp/1608872475/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2Z2QL53IVJK6B&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.tiRWDtw5gbFc2YIV2Mss3TnLUnFEwcmVbHR8OIfL5VARTNvSBVUi2qFNo_4FJBkCelIVNvASo-uYT-G1UvKY29wSZGIdcbbmhbVYH60u4zyE5967neLJeu-SwqfeLy6zBsQ5o8di13weuLTMsALisGbdaMJy3A9t2ACZVYC3otNp93xez_7TICZm2fAqHHKHOW_9uM4DGd8x1dOo-7GzCZAXy1mO-KhjPL3UYu7yQGc.bPOOSW9VH1wjHJlZBf-TUvYtF51aGpbfBOGVBjucV0Q&dib_tag=se&keywords=world+of+warcraft+poster+book&qid=1726597790&sprefix=world+of+warcraft+poster+book%2Caps%2C101&sr=8-1
Hoping they iron out how ass delves are in the second season. I am not asking for them to be trivial. I am asking them to function properly and be consistent day to day.
After brann went above 20 his potioms started to actually heal, and with a little caution tier 8 is very doable, alnost comfortably dare i say.
The final bosses are a bit tough but something should be!
I think im about to start farming t9 with my ele.
I have done level 8 delves on a DK, DH, and Lock. With DK and DH I had to go tank spec to be able to survive, and with Lock the voidwalker can't hold aggro at all, so I have to go Demo for the felguard to tank just to clear trash.
Lol, I always used brann as healer, didn't think to have him as dps, but had no issues clearing 8's.
I've beed running as dps DH and heal Brann from the start and didn't find myself being too squishi. Brann heal is pretty good and having a stack of health potions which are very cheap makes t8 very easy
I do die occasionnaly but usually because of impatience and not OP mechanics
For a solo player this should be good to try as Bran as a Healer 🎉🎉
Use him for dps until boss then switch him to heals for boss. Waaaay faster.
Boss fights are easier than packs of mobs, and especially, wave encounters
Depends on the boss. Delves bosses where it’s mostly just a bunch of crap to dodge, DPS Brann is fine for me. Delves where a boss has a lot of unavoidable damage, Healer Brann is the Man.
@@Veelaru Waxface says hi.
@@melanp4698 It's kiteable. And you can drop you candle in an 8 pattern next to stationary candle and run back and forth
@@melanp4698 personally, I would say that puppeteer version of nerubian lord is harder - if you don't have a health pot, you'll likely die if you don't kill the boss before this 3rd channeled ability - it hits like 1.5m per tick
Brann is healing me for like 565k every 3 second when I eat 3 potions, thats just from the HoT you get. I do play Warlock so I did not have much trouble before those hotfixes but now its really not that hard tbh, just takes like 15 minutes to complete a T8 probably because of low ilvl (580 atm).
I had no issues doing a T7 solo on my 564 survival hunter with Brann as damage. But when my wife joined me on her resto Druid it was rough getting through a 5 and we couldn’t even finish a 6 without running out of revives. Feels like delves are either solo or full group which is disappointing.
As a 604 Guardian druid Brann's damage never felt that bad when he was set to dps.
I have him set to dos when im solo and healer when other people join.
I've been able to scrape in a t8 on my dest lock with bran at lvl 15 healing. 574ilvl. I wouldn't say it was easy, but it was doable.
It’s beyond me that he doesn’t need to use a single CD or CCs… I’ve done many 8s (about 75-100) and completed Zek’Vir solo and 11 solo on Spriest, balance Druid and Prot Warrior (Amaelina, Amaelìna, Såråh-Altar of Storms if you need to armoury verify). If I don’t use the maximum utilities of my classes, I get absolutely annihilated-there are abilities like burn away on Waxface that destroy my priest if I don’t disperse, web bolts and fireballs that 1/4 my hp if not interrupted, insane limitless/through LoS abilities on some some Nerubian bosses that require shield wall or death. Now, granted I don’t know his ilvl-I’m yet to have a single character clear ilvl 600 so far, but it still seems crazy to never use a single CD or CC when you have fireballs casually cleaning you up for 1-2 million per hit.
Since the recent Brann "fix" he keeps on dying to bosses from the aoe or random stuff :D
His dmg is severly nerfed but i also noticed that his healing potions now heal for like 1,5mil.
t8 bountiful solo i use healer bran for 3 rogues (2 sub 1 outlaw) and dps bran for arcane mage, marks hunter and ret pally. t8 bountifuls solo for the classes/specs i mentioned have been a bit of a joke honestly my ret was fresh 80 with 550 ilvl 571 weapon and was the easiest for t8. hardest part of the delves is just rotating cooldowns for the unavoidable aoe damage the bosses do.
I tried t8 on my hunter. I am undergeared for it and couldn't do it. If I was better geared I think I could possibly solo it. My Bran is only lvl 16 though. I feel that makes the biggest difference.
Will try on my prot pally today.
Have gone heals with Porcelain and Amorphous relics on all 16 toons the whole time. He's now level 53. 95% reliable although doesn't always drop the healing pots when you want, but the near-death medicine chests are awesome. What I don't really understand is how he does so little damage as a healer (like less than 10% my damage/dps), but constantly pulls aggro and the adds run all over the place - very annoying on my melee toons. It's like he has a healer taunt even when no dinosaur helping. The fact he stands on relics so you can't click them without constantly changing camera angle, throws campfires in webs and under spores, etc, is also annoying.
Does brann actually make any difference? I just remember him being set as DPS and throwing out pots like candy, then I switch him to heal and he does nothing until I die and he throws out that Orb for my duo. Truely game mechanics working as intended. Guess its not borrowed power if it was never yours. You just need to build it regardless.
went into the delves (fungus follies) first layer after doing it, and there are tons of quests inside from the NPC's. I cannot believe no one has mentioned the multiple quests inside after clearing a layer. walk up to the npc click it, and it'll give you a quest inside the delve.
Brann: "Don't just stand there." Me (Hunter): avoids AoE and shoots like crazy. Brann: Stands in Enemy's AoE and goes down. 🙄
Always had Bran as a healer. I play a Unholy DK. Makes life so much easier.
I tried blood with Brann as DPS on my 575 shit-geared DK...it was decent, no deaths, just a bit slower than a dps, which is to be expected.
i don’t think i ever chose bran dps… being dps myself i figured having him heal made more sense.
what i don’t get is all the solo people complaining delves were too hard when many times they were below the tier recommended ilvl.
Porcelain + 20% haste beginning of the fight are my curios and then they are so damn sweet.
I dunno, for me, healer Brann moronically chain pulls the entire delve and gets me killed.
I think you need to try other classes first before saying "this is what you do" because not all classes have the kit a monk has. As someone with everything at 80 but DK and DH i can tell you that monk is one of the easiest roles to get content way above its level/ilvl done. My healing monk with healing monk gear swapped to windwalker at 550 ilvl can still do t8 where my 600ilvl priest can't even deal with a small pack of the weakest enemies without mind control and using all its mana as a shadowpriest.
The issue is no tank spec for brann. If we flat out look at the classes stuggling its ones which have no mitigation for direct auto attacks plus ways to stop spell casts. Webmancers still hit for 500k a cast at 1.8 seconds each cast, and a pack with 2 of them is basically impossible with some classes without bringing a duo who is a tank. Setting Brann to healer isn't going to help casters who are struggling right now in delves. I would be just running to each brann potion doing no damage constantly.
Been running bran as healer since day one…but I’ve also just uncovered teir 7 delves
Amorphous Relic does kinda the same thing, just without losing max health.
beautiful bowie part
Looks like I missed out. I have always used Brann for healing.
I mean bran dps is way better. Maybe depends of the class, but as dk frost with the idol taunt you can solo any delve in any dificult.
Blizzard: oh you guys having fun with Brann kicking ass … LOL… not anymore
dude where is the part you talk about how to fix brann, found it and you need to talk about if you dont have the relicblood of zekvir
Are there any macros that we can use to have Brann start attacking first? I as a Lock want to have him go in and then use my Felguard to back him up. As Aflic the Blueberry just does SHIT for tanking.
I run as survival hunter and alwise done healer to help me be healty thats whay i did a 10 or so with 20 les item lv then recomend. But hunter is very good att delv is the pac to big and you dont know if you can survive it just throw a frezz trap down on one of them before you pull the rest. You have tar trap to slow and root you have your pet to tank and you got alot of cc and alot of mobility to run awey and heal. And most importent turtal stand to get thro strong dmg with no problem😂 also got stealth to ignore anoying pulls
But i can imagen alot other dmg classes will have it alot harder to deal with hige tear delv.
Delvs is fun but can be bullahit sometimes depending on your luck with the mini boss spawn. Like the 2 spider ppl hate them and avoid them alwise if i can
Brann healed me from the beginning reached tier 9 I had the DPS for the delves
What was your ilevel during this video?
As a DH tank I steam roller this content
I don't play healer that often but I found that I like healing Delvs.
Awesome!
Now all they need to do is nerf Brann healing.
It's what they'll do. Sometimes they just have the wrong idea and double down on it forever.
Life is gonna much better when i don't have to do delves anymore after tomorrow
Wish they would fix the loot table to not give duplicates for content like this.
well could be the best option to get m+ ready but my 5!!! backs and 4 trinkets tell another story^^
That’s part of the problem. Not having to use any CD’s or even stuns to get a tier 8 means it’s too easy. High tier delves should expect some level of class mastery.
I have only used Healer brann cause my fury warrior was and still is kinda a glass cannon at times. Also I rarely if ever have Brann tank cause he could never hold aggro lol
Your Bran must be broken because mine is wrecking havoc. I'm a ret paladin with 600 item level and I use Bran(lvl30) as a damage dealer because he basically makes me able to kill packs of mobs before they kill me instead of playing the sustain game. His 30% execute on mobs is particularly juicy which he only gets as dps. I'm going to give healer Bran a try though.
I got 5 maps last week. A strange bug popped out from the ground.
Around 40% hp it ran away and got a map with other stuffs. I wasn't even lvl 80. lol
One thing you fail to mention is what is your ilevel? So easy, right? How far over 590 is it?
On the stats he showed on screen, it shortly showed a page where it said he was 608.
Interesting, I was doing 8's on a 584 boomkin and it wasn't too bad but some delves are f'ing insane, like waterworks.
Yes, BM hunter ilvl601 from delvs 😅
My brann's curios are bugged, done loads of delves never got a single upgrade for them they're all 1/4 except Zekvirs. Also the achievement for all curios is also bugged, got Relicblood of Zekvir but the achieve says i dont have it...
Should just make a tank Brann too.
Healer Brann with Arrowhead since day 1. Never had issues at 8 or higher. Prot or Arms
So have they liked fixed shit as doing t8s with no kicks etc? At 584ilvl i was getting hammered, 300k healing plus healing brann and id die. On bosses no kick means me being 1 shot by a dot that ticks for 900k.dmg...
What profile do you use for plater?
the hot from brann actually stacks infinetly, once i got a 7mil hot every 3 sec
My Brann is lower lvl, maybe thats why it doesnt work like it does for you.
Every monster that can shoot something, always hit me with it. Even with misdirect. I dont understand why.
Sometimes, it's just frontal cones that damage you. Stuff you need to dodge
Most spell casts are all targets. Even as a BM hunter, I get hit with every fireball, web shot, etc
zekvir 5 man is actually impossible (as of last night 9/16). too funny
Do you reckon this advice would still work if my bran is sub level 20 and my curios aren't maxed?
same question
@@DrBeerGames Okay man. Confirmed. This works 110% better than what I thought it would.
Managed to do a tier 8 as fury warrior in the waterworks of all places. Brann's healing is genuinely insane and the damage buff from that epic relic in the video was extremely helpful. Didn't even die once!
@@DrBeerGames before starting i was ilvl 596, with brann at level 18
@@benl5251 Oh dude no way I'm fury warrior too. I'm ilvl 589 so might have a slightly tougher time but good to know this strategy seems to work really well. Thank you!
@@DrBeerGames The 7 ilvl will give you like 200k health, and 0.5% damage reduction. It's not that big of a difference.
I never felt the need to spec him heal when running delves on my windwalker. Only on my prot warrior for bosses
So far getting v few L4 curios despite running 20+ T8 across multiple characters - no maps either. RNG sucks.
Not even close to right man. Tier 8 is only doable solo with my paladin. I did Shaman and DH and both get almost 1 shot by every hit. Blow all CDs and use stuns and interrupts...doesn't matter. You aren't getting our of the first room. They are tuned very poorly. My Paladin can run through smooth bc of Bubble and self heals but Bran is useless. Mine is level 38 and he heals for nothing and does no damage. Just now, 649k dps and 245k HPS. Bran was 10% of my healing. If you don't have a toon that can heal you aren't doing these currently.
I did two t8 yesterday on my ilvl 593 Rog so not a big sample but apart from bosses it was not hard. Bosses made me respec and pay more attention to where healing potions are and when to use what so that was surely challenging but very doable
Quick everyone run back to delves and finish your keys before Healer Brann gets the hammer!
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I did t8 as protection paladin with a ilvl 567 it just took a bit longer to finished.
Blizzard equates systems to fun while blinding themselves to what fun actually is.
Fury warrior has trouble soloing T8 as of yesterday now I’m not ilvl600 yet I’m 588 never made it past 2nd room. My bran is lvl 17 when i farmed delves I noticed he stopped lvling at 15 so I stopped doing them.
glad i did 11 before they nerfed his dps i let him do all the damage on the mushroom boss while i ran in circles took him 76 sec to takedown 156m hp