Just love the ejemucation you're giving us. As the Canadian lady in the "How it's made" TV series used to say when she talked about welding; "I new nutin aboot soddering but I sure do now". I still don't know about "soddering" but, thanks to you, I know lots more about metal fabricating and welding than I did before I subbed to you channel. Thanks guys.
thanks kevin and the voice that asking those good questions . been following you for three years very educational just getting in to metal hobby . want to build a large ship propeller for my buddy,S bar in the future.
Welllll, I would go with a lighter grit like a 80 or so if it is a light rust. It should be ready for primer as long as there is no damage to repair. If it is heavy rust with lots of flaking I would look towards a sandblaster instead. I guess it all depends on the finish you are looking for when you are done.
@Kevin Caron, Artist Hi Kevin, first of all thanks for making the video, i have one question,even if i sanded down steel with the 120 grit, would that finished surface be too smooth for primer or paint to grab too?? It looks like although its 120 grit,looks smooth and polished,just wondered if i did my body work on my car if the primer would still grab with the 120 grit OR would you recomend flatting it down again with wet or dry paper, thanks in advance
Prep is 90% of final result. I've seen a recommendation to finish with a DA sander and 400 grit for a cheap and dirty job (like for what I drive), followed by high-build primer, then lightly scuff the primer with 400 grit before the color coats. Clean the surface thoroughly each time, obviously. I heard the pros go to 600 or 800 before priming. That's a lot of prep.
@@KevincaronSculpture it really did, I was using a non woven disc to lift paint but they are 5 pound a time and last an hour, I've been able to get discs at 15 percent of that and lasted 4 hours non stop. All the best.
Hi I would like to clean up a vice to paint an old Record vice, what would you suggest to remove the rust and paint, not sure to hand paint it with Hammerite or spray paint it Thanks Ian
What kind of flap disc would I use to sand rust off my truck door?? And also would it be ready to be cleaned and primed after that or would it need more sanding?
@@KevincaronSculpture hahaha Mr Caron, you know how they say, extraterrestrials are way advance than humans, so I called respectfully advance people like yourself extraterrestrials as compliments, thank you again for the free class
Well sure it's safe. Just going to be really messy! Make sure the door will not move while you are grinding and watch out for the sparks. Be careful about using the 40grit if you don't need it. It will leave a lot of grrr marks that will show up in your finish. Don't forget to wear hearing protection and a dust mask.
I love those things too. Experience has taught me that any of the grits will remove the skin on the side of your thumb quite nicely...Gloves, oh yeah...But those gloves are laying way over there and I am standing here. I can probably get by just this once...again. Maybe I should move those bandaids over here too... Thanks guys!
Just bought a 4 1/2 in angle grinder and a wire wheeI. I have a hand cart that has slightly rusted over the years. I want to remove all the rust and remaining paint so I can repaint it. I may possibly repaint it with rhino lining like paint. What grit flap wheel do you suggest I should use? Or should I stick with the wire wheel?
+obliviousmode575 If the paint is loose enough to take off with the wire wheel you can use that to get the chucks off and finish with the flap wheels.. start with a 60 and move up to a 120.
Hey Kevin! I have two questions: 1) How do you clean flap discs once they fill up with scale or other materials? My rubber stick doesn't clean them like it does my belt sander belts. 2) How do you get rid of the fabric once they wear down to the fabric? I see that there is lots of fresh flappage (like half) under the now slick paper on some, but I don't know how to get to it.
Kev, I bought an unused cast iron pan at a thrift store. After examining it more carefully at home, I observed that the cooking surface was "pebbly", not as flat/slick as a cast iron pan should be. The cooking surface area that needs to be leveled is only 7" wide. What do you recommend? Great channel, liked and subbed!
Kevin Caron, Artist Many thanks for your experienced advice. I’ve an orbital Meguiars vehicle buffing/ compounding machine - would that work ok if I can get sanding discs for it?
You are doing nothing wrong!! You are wearing the disk down and not giving it anything to chew on. When the disk gets "smooth" like that try running it over a rough piece of metal to rip off the worn down part of the disk and expose new grit. This is why I will have several different grits disks in reach when I am grinding. Start with the course and work your way to the smooth.
they work awesome on wood too! You just gotta watch the heat and pressure. And yeah, they do bite. The good thing is that they spin so damn fast sometimes they don't bleed for awhile.
Jack, I have a large box of bandaids that my wife gave me so I best keep using those. She seems to be less happy when I forget and leak from my hands or arms after a tiny little mishap. Never used lacquer thinner. I use alcohol. No, not that kind! Rubbing alcohol... What the heck, these things happen... Chuck
Hi Kevin, I have removed the paint from my metal door with a chemical, and am ready to use a 40 or 60 flap disc. Is it safe to do this on my door while it's on its hinges inside my home, or should I take it down to a shop and do it? Thanks from NYC
Sometime you feel like a nut,and sometimes you don't.You think that these pads last longer than the regular old style disc? When I where out the big grinder discs i have a tool than will cut them down to the smaller sizes so you can still grind with in inside sections as they don't usually contact the work piece till the diameter gets smaller.Those sanding disc ain't cheap. Paisano
I do feel they last longer than the flat paper discs. They are more expensive but I think it works out to be cheaper in the long run... (i hope)...... (please god)....
I had a lot of old pipes and rebar to cut up and from what I read ruclips.net/user/postUgkxPDBfLu68o58Aw85O_J-zIFfjJARBhp-3 this would be the tool for the job. Since I had never used one, I watched a couple of youtube videos and I'm so glad I did. Some really good safety tips, which I followed, and this tool did a splendid job. One good thing to know is the weight of the tool puts just about the right amount of pressure on the metal I was cutting, so I didn't have to use a lot of pressure, which is more likely to jam the tool. It made fast work of my job.
Personally, I think is is way safer not to wear gloves. I would not like to snag my gloves in that wheel while spinning at that speed. The results could be disastrous.
@@KevincaronSculpture With respect, the guard is irrelevant to wether or not you have gloves on. If the spinning disk touches your gloves, the gloves will get pulled into the wheel, dragging your fingers with it. Without gloves, you will get injured but nowhere near as much. The guard reduces your chance of injury in both scenarios but either way, gloves I’ll make it much worse.
Stube,, I prefer Duct tape Myself,LOL,,35+ Years,and Not 1 stich YET!!!!!! I should Of patened the "Butterfly" Id be a Millionaire!!!!! Paper towels,,Some Laquar thiner,so No Infections!,,Also teaches Ya How to DANCE,LOL!!!!!!!!! and the Duct tape,, Your store bought,or when things were Busy,,Zep, And You saved yourself the time to go get sewed up!!!!! Cost,,and It still IMO, works Better! have a Good One,,Jack
10 yrs later and still teaching. Thank you
You're very welcome!
Use them all the time. Theyre great arent they? I love how they can give you an almost polished look. Great video
Great video. Most videos people talk for 20 minutes. This you went right to it. Nicely done.
Thanks, like to keep it short and to the point.
Just love the ejemucation you're giving us. As the Canadian lady in the "How it's made" TV series used to say when she talked about welding; "I new nutin aboot soddering but I sure do now". I still don't know about "soddering" but, thanks to you, I know lots more about metal fabricating and welding than I did before I subbed to you channel. Thanks guys.
Thank you. Down to earth and full of useful information and entertainingly presented. I look forward to learning a lot more. Again thank you.
Thanks for watching and posting Paul! Have you been to my website yet? Lots to see over there as well!
I started using a surface condition tool. It’s amazing!
Really pleased with how well this works. Got some new felt pads to try out. Seem to polish really well.
Very useful! I keep hearing Glenn from Superstore tho.
Your partner over the microphone is very helpful. Thanks young woman.
thanks kevin and the voice that asking those good questions . been following you for three years very educational just getting in to metal hobby . want to build a large ship propeller for my buddy,S bar in the future.
Good explanation and demonstration. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching!
You are welcome.
Thanks for posting..
Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Clear expression.great vedio.
My pleasure
Good info for me. . I'm cleaning up rusty, concrete from shovels. I'm restoring the wood handles as well. Thanks for the tips.
Thanks for watching and posting!
Kevin has deepen my basic fabrication knowledge. Many thanks to you sir for your videos.
Welllll, I would go with a lighter grit like a 80 or so if it is a light rust. It should be ready for primer as long as there is no damage to repair. If it is heavy rust with lots of flaking I would look towards a sandblaster instead. I guess it all depends on the finish you are looking for when you are done.
@Kevin Caron, Artist Hi Kevin, first of all thanks for making the video, i have one question,even if i sanded down steel with the 120 grit, would that finished surface be too smooth for primer or paint to grab too??
It looks like although its 120 grit,looks smooth and polished,just wondered if i did my body work on my car if the primer would still grab with the 120 grit OR would you recomend flatting it down again with wet or dry paper, thanks in advance
I am not a professional body guy but I would say yes, 120 is a good grit to prime to.
thanks Kevin for taking your time to answer my question :)
Prep is 90% of final result. I've seen a recommendation to finish with a DA sander and 400 grit for a cheap and dirty job (like for what I drive), followed by high-build primer, then lightly scuff the primer with 400 grit before the color coats. Clean the surface thoroughly each time, obviously. I heard the pros go to 600 or 800 before priming. That's a lot of prep.
Thanks for making the vid. I just started working with a grinder for the first time and this helps.
Thanks for watching and posting!
Thanks for all the info and demonstration it's very helpful.
Thanks for watching!
This was actually very helpful
For stripping paint on concrete, would an "easy strip" (in one of your other videos) work better than a flap disk?
I doubt it ! Remember the stripper disk is fragile , any sharp edge will quickly eat the disk.
Really helpful, good to see what they can do. Cheers.
Glad it helped
@@KevincaronSculpture it really did, I was using a non woven disc to lift paint but they are 5 pound a time and last an hour, I've been able to get discs at 15 percent of that and lasted 4 hours non stop. All the best.
Do you ever use a sandblaster? And thank you for all the helpful tips and information!
I have a small soda blaster that I use for little parts.
For the bigger stuff I send it out.
Are these good for sanding off loose paint, prior to re-painting? Maybe gently use the 120 grit...
Yes, will do a great job. Also try red stripper disks. works better and no damage to the metal.
Great video. You should do Kermet the Frog impressions. You sound just like him....
Mark Clark lol. He does!!!!
I've been using lehigh valley abrasives for a while now. Great prices on flap discs.
Thanks for posting. Will check them out.
good info
Hi
I would like to clean up a vice to paint an old Record vice, what would you suggest to remove the rust and paint, not sure to hand paint it with Hammerite or spray paint it
Thanks Ian
Do you use a nut with the ones that have the hub built on it?
thanks for the video, just bought my first grinder and bought all the various discs, but had not a clue what flap discs were.
Thanks Kevin con Artist
What kind of flap disc would I use to sand rust off my truck door?? And also would it be ready to be cleaned and primed after that or would it need more sanding?
One of my favorite extraterrestrials, thank you
Oh hell, is my tail showing again?!?!?
@@KevincaronSculpture hahaha Mr Caron, you know how they say, extraterrestrials are way advance than humans, so I called respectfully advance people like yourself extraterrestrials as compliments, thank you again for the free class
I love em, harbor freight sells a 10 pack of 3 flapper 4 cutting and 3 grinding for $10,99, they hold up pretty good for the price,,
Well sure it's safe. Just going to be really messy! Make sure the door will not move while you are grinding and watch out for the sparks. Be careful about using the 40grit if you don't need it. It will leave a lot of grrr marks that will show up in your finish. Don't forget to wear hearing protection and a dust mask.
LOve your video...and the prompters voice....reminds me of the army ...lol.
Thank you for watching and posting .
I love those things too. Experience has taught me that any of the grits will remove the skin on the side of your thumb quite nicely...Gloves, oh yeah...But those gloves are laying way over there and I am standing here. I can probably get by just this once...again. Maybe I should move those bandaids over here too... Thanks guys!
Just bought a 4 1/2 in angle grinder and a wire wheeI. I have a hand cart that has slightly rusted over the years. I want to remove all the rust and remaining paint so I can repaint it. I may possibly repaint it with rhino lining like paint. What grit flap wheel do you suggest I should use? Or should I stick with the wire wheel?
+obliviousmode575
If the paint is loose enough to take off with the wire wheel you can use that to get the chucks off and finish with the flap wheels.. start with a 60 and move up to a 120.
Hey Kevin! I have two questions:
1) How do you clean flap discs once they fill up with scale or other materials? My rubber stick doesn't clean them like it does my belt sander belts.
2) How do you get rid of the fabric once they wear down to the fabric? I see that there is lots of fresh flappage (like half) under the now slick paper on some, but I don't know how to get to it.
Thank you!
very good video kevin thanks for posting it up.
This guy has coolest radio voice
Always wanted to try radio or voice over work. Thanks for watching and posting.
@@KevincaronSculpture your videos are valuable to me. Thank YOU
Great video! Very cool! Thank you!
Thanks for watching and posting.
Kev,
I bought an unused cast iron pan at a thrift store. After examining it more carefully at home, I observed that the cooking surface was "pebbly", not as flat/slick as a cast iron pan should be. The cooking surface area that needs to be leveled is only 7" wide. What do you recommend?
Great channel, liked and subbed!
Try an orbital sander with a fine grit sandpaper. Or just season the pan and put it to use. That is what I would do.
Kevin Caron, Artist Many thanks for your experienced advice.
I’ve an orbital Meguiars vehicle buffing/ compounding machine - would that work ok if I can get sanding discs for it?
Pressure applied makes a very big difference too.. Not to mention you get a rounded grind, rather than flat or convex. But.. Nice general info I guess
thx alot for informative video
My pleasure. Thanks for watching and posting.
Excellent video, thx!
Kev, Have you ever used the Sparky Brand? Love em,and WOW, ALOT !!!!!!!! cheaper,, Thanks,Jack
You are a Great artist!
I'm gonna buy one.
Perhaps a little of your talent will pass on to me. rc
Your vision works comfortable for the heart. ..
Whatever that means
Sphynk ...Thankful for Teacher Kevin's effort. .
I discovered these wonders recently too. Excellent for dressing my atrocious welds.
Repeat my mantra: "Grinder and paint make me the welder I ain't."
Oh so true!!
can you put a 7/8 in disc on a 5/8 in arbor?
Might vibrate a bit.
Can't you go straight from 40 grit to 120 grit (skipping everything in between)??
You can but it will take much longer to get the job done.
@@KevincaronSculpture I see. Thank you.
thank you sir, good info...
I've read that you should only pull a flap disc never push it?
All depends on what finish you are looking for.
Thanks for your info :)
No problem!
Good video. Thanks👍
No problem 👍
When I use a flap disc it works great for a little while and then it seems to smooth out what am I doing wrong
You are doing nothing wrong!! You are wearing the disk down and not giving it anything to chew on. When the disk gets "smooth" like that try running it over a rough piece of metal to rip off the worn down part of the disk and expose new grit. This is why I will have several different grits disks in reach when I am grinding. Start with the course and work your way to the smooth.
@@KevincaronSculpture Thank you I'll try that.
they work awesome on wood too! You just gotta watch the heat and pressure. And yeah, they do bite. The good thing is that they spin so damn fast sometimes they don't bleed for awhile.
Thank you, this answered my questions nicely.
Jack, I have a large box of bandaids that my wife gave me so I best keep using those. She seems to be less happy when I forget and leak from my hands or arms after a tiny little mishap. Never used lacquer thinner. I use alcohol. No, not that kind! Rubbing alcohol... What the heck, these things happen... Chuck
Nice info and demo! Thanks!
Hi Kevin,
I have removed the paint from my metal door with a chemical, and am ready to use a 40 or 60 flap disc. Is it safe to do this on my door while it's on its hinges inside my home, or should I take it down to a shop and do it?
Thanks from NYC
Of course it's safe. What could go wrong?
Hey Kevin, whatcha doin??
One of these days I really hope he just looks up and yells: Nothing, goddamnit, mind your business!!
That will be on the outtake reel soon!!
@@KevincaronSculpture Haha, I'll watch those
Great help thanks
nice video's kevin.... could I use flapper discs to remove paint on galvanised steel?
Yes, try a 40 or 60 grit...
i find with them flap disc's doing a lot of aluminum work they clog up a lot and become youless any idea's
Have a piece of steel scrap handy and just "clean" the flap disc on the steel.
Silcion carbide flap disc will be the best choice for Aluminum
On top of cleaning it on steel take a air wand and blast the crap out the disc
Great Helpfull!
good stuff
Sometime you feel like a nut,and sometimes you don't.You think that these pads last longer than the regular old style disc? When I where out the big grinder discs i have a tool than will cut them down to the smaller sizes so you can still grind with in inside sections as they don't usually contact the work piece till the diameter gets smaller.Those sanding disc ain't cheap.
Paisano
I do feel they last longer than the flat paper discs. They are more expensive but I think it works out to be cheaper in the long run... (i hope)...... (please god)....
thanx a lot
I get much longer lasting results with the old fiber disc. The flap discs lose the grit so quickly.
At $12 to $18 bucks a disc I use grinder to get the worst off than switch to a flapper disc. It makes flapper disc last longer.
I get mine online. In the $3 to $7 range. Look for clearance links. Try AAAbrasives.
Kevin Caron, Artist Sorry I should have mentioned I'm Canadian.
Bob Sjolie Dude i get a 10 pack of USA made disks for 3$ a piece. Theyre about twice as thick as the ones at the hardware store.
I'm also Canadian a flap disc is only about 4$ CAD
HEY KEV WATCHA DOIN
Just having fun and making stuff!
I had a lot of old pipes and rebar to cut up and from what I read ruclips.net/user/postUgkxPDBfLu68o58Aw85O_J-zIFfjJARBhp-3 this would be the tool for the job. Since I had never used one, I watched a couple of youtube videos and I'm so glad I did. Some really good safety tips, which I followed, and this tool did a splendid job. One good thing to know is the weight of the tool puts just about the right amount of pressure on the metal I was cutting, so I didn't have to use a lot of pressure, which is more likely to jam the tool. It made fast work of my job.
Kevin! Where's your hearing protection?!?
Bad, Kevin Bad! No cookie for you!
@@KevincaronSculpture Great info though. Thanks for the video!
cool
You're awesome :)
great video. Can you edit out the woman asking stupid questions or just ask her to shut up?
No. She is my wife and she is having fun just like me.
We enjoyed the video, Kevin! Check out our funny welder grinding video. ruclips.net/video/K0juT2Y3QQQ/видео.html
Cool, clean them up and send them on over!!!!
Her questions almost sound like they’re pre-planned ya know? :) I can’t tell if they’re purposely trying to be funny and like an 80’s video or not
The questions are not planned. Everything is off the cuff.
Personally, I think is is way safer not to wear gloves. I would not like to snag my gloves in that wheel while spinning at that speed. The results could be disastrous.
That is why you need the guard on the grinder.
@@KevincaronSculpture With respect, the guard is irrelevant to wether or not you have gloves on. If the spinning disk touches your gloves, the gloves will get pulled into the wheel, dragging your fingers with it. Without gloves, you will get injured but nowhere near as much. The guard reduces your chance of injury in both scenarios but either way, gloves I’ll make it much worse.
I don't have the patience. Wire wheel. Cut it. Weld it
Stube,, I prefer Duct tape Myself,LOL,,35+ Years,and Not 1 stich YET!!!!!! I should Of patened the "Butterfly" Id be a Millionaire!!!!! Paper towels,,Some Laquar thiner,so No Infections!,,Also teaches Ya How to DANCE,LOL!!!!!!!!! and the Duct tape,, Your store bought,or when things were Busy,,Zep, And You saved yourself the time to go get sewed up!!!!! Cost,,and It still IMO, works Better! have a Good One,,Jack
Don't use gloves they will get caught in the garden and take your hand off
guard u mean?
Protect your ears ...please..
wardrobe? the dude is wearing t shirt and jeans. not much to take credit for there
It's a joke Joe.
@@KevincaronSculpture ah lol