Nothing better then good old fashion work..if you keep this pace up you'll be down to your high school fighting weight...you've probably noticed your stamina getting stronger the more time you put in at the mill..nice job..! What the heck was that big building needing the railings..?
That is a house I built, I am using wood from the Woodmizer to finish it. Truthfully I actually do feel better and better. I did lose some weight. Thanks for the comment.
Great videos.....1/4 sawed spindles are lot of work for you to get straight grained 2X2's......not sure I fully understand....watch all your videos...thanks
Thank you. I saw your comment about the fishing trip but I cant find it now. But my comment to it is that for some reason the kindness always comes back somehow.
I'm thinking it may be easier to take the first cut to 2 inches above dead center and remove that half, then do another cut that is two inches thick, and then another one that is 2 inches thick. Those two boards should be almost completely quartersawn wood with some pith in in the center that could be removed. Then when you could quarter the bottom piece and finish the bottom half. I think that it would be less moving of the wood. I haven't done this, but I think that it makes sense.
True dat. You could just go 1 inch above the center and one below, that would be dead center and perfect quarter sawn with the pith in the middle . By cutting two inches above you end up with the same results that you had by quartered the log first, but you get the first four cuts before you quarter, which should be less moving of the logs. Thanks for the quick reply! :-)
@@josaljo1 Shannon is absolutely making the exact same cuts you are with considerable less work. (you did split the log right through the pith didn't you?)
Lots of big knots, hopefully you can get enough length between them? I cut white pine on a belsaw in the Adirondacks many decades ago, don’t miss that pitch! Had to wash everything with lestoil, or just not wash them at all. Also, do you not have a wood hook? Makes handling so much easier.
Could edit log set up and fast forward mill work plenty of wood mizer clups. Just need to see your 1/4 saw set up not hiking down the road. Show us the product in lumber yard and price comparison.
Joe, You need a log deck. I was afraid that first off cut was going to get you. I know you're constrained for space but a log deck lets you load the deck so they roll right off onto the mill and you could roll logs off of the saw onto the deck without the deck getting away from you.
You are right about what you are saying here. But I like the ability to roll away the flitches from the bunk so I can load another log. Having the backhoe makes loading easy and offing the flitches harder. This was my best compromise for now. But when it comes to quarter sawing, my system needs improvement that I noticed as well. Because I have to move half of the log and then bring it back. This is also why quartersawn boards command a higher price, more work. Thanks for the comment.
I was a little hard on you for the saw work. When sharpening a power saw chain by hand make SURE that both sides are at the same angle. If one side is more than the other you will saw in circles, the chain pulls to one side more than the other, think of you bandsaw.
I appreciate quarter sawn wood, but on a 2 x2 wouldn't all fo them be quarter sawn if you just rotate them 90 degrees. top and bottom faces flat sawn but left and right faces quarter sawn? Or vice versa? Rift sawn appear quarter sawn all the way around.
I'm sitting here wondering why you don't take your first cut 1" up from center, and the second 1" down from center since that 2" slab will have totally vertical grain. You can often get 3x 2" slabs that have vertical grain out of the middle of the log, and that's what you're aiming for with quarter sawing. Then you start flipping the log to continue getting near vertical grain. It'll save you a bunch of work.
Amazed at your work ethics at your age Joe! I have just one thought...if you are resawing to 2x2's later, why go to this much trouble when a flat sawed plank will yield quarter sawed when it is re-sawed into 2x2's?
Not all of them will be 2x2s I have a lot of maple that I wanted in quarter sawn boards for furniture. The jig was a test to see if I could get the perfect 90 degree annual rings and how I would do it. Thanks for the compliment my whole family had those ethics long before I came around.
The foundation is poured concrete, no basement, with a 12" concrete slab floor. The ground slopes away from the home water will never be an issue. Thanks for the comment.
I just got a LT15 so I have been watching every video I can find and yours are excellent. I have to say, you are the only guy I have seen to mill QS lumber from the bottom. Are you finding that you get more yield and less waste this way? It sure does seem like it. Thanks again for sharing this.
@@josaljo1 never run a mill ,but I worked in one take the boards off as you cut so it takes pressure of the blade with all that weight it's common sence that makes your sawmill work harder,and wear your blade out faster.good vid and love that helper.
Why did you use a chain saw to trim the edge of the tree half? You already had a running saw (the Wood Mizer) that could have very quickly and more accurately trimmed that edge.
Not exactly gum up the blade, but when I sharpen the blades I usually put silicone spray on the blade to clean it and it is not that bad. While cutting though is another problem, the blade entering and leaving the log can buckle it you dont use some kind of lube, water or something.
Judd _S It depends on how green the word is if it’s really green or use a lot of Pine-Sol if it’s not so green are useless Pine-Sol just play around with it and see
This is the technique I'd use if I were trying to quarter saw logs into boards. No special jigs or fixtures needed. But this is an effort in futility if you are cutting all 2x2s. Why waste all the time to reposition the log at all? Just start cutting 2" slabs from the top down through the log. Then stand them up against the log stops and edge them to get a square edge on each slab. After the slabs are dried, you can stand them up, ganged together, on the squared edges and cut your 2x2s. By the way you do a lot of bull-work for a guy that says he doesn't like to do heavy lifting!
I'm new to sawing. I'm building a timber frame that I need 6x10's for. I will be using cedar as that is what I have available. How important do you think it would it be to mill those rafter beams quarter sawn?
If I was wanting to make spindles I would want to use rift cut 2x2s instead of quarter sawed. 45 deg. tends to be best for turning. Look at all 4 sides of of a quarter sawed 2x2 and 2 sides will look like quarter sawed,and 2 sides will look flat sawed. Look at all 4 sides of a 2x2 that was rift sawed at about 45 deg. and all 4 sides will appear quarter sawed. The strange things a person learns in life. Then again I guess that I'm kind of a strange guy. LOL. Have a good one.
Yes I do, and at 63 years old and all the broken bones that came from sporting events, I vowed to give them up. Never got hurt yet from working. Thanks for comment I do appreciate your concern.
You mentioned in another video, where you diagramed QS on the computer, a jig that you were developing. I don’t see a follow up video to that, Did you ever develop that jig? Thanks again.
Joe can you tell me which did you get on your Wood Miser, Sawmill. How many HP engine, you have. And do you think it is large enough if .Thank you Neil
Does your wife ever get mad about you dragging sawdust into the house? I know it is impossible to get it all off. Keep up the good work it's always nice to see what you got going on.
I built a mud room onto my house, I am allowed that far. She sweeps it every day. I can get dirty in less than 3 minutes she actually likes the sawdust better than the grease and dirt from auto repair. Not only that we are so remote, I strip and shake my clothes off outside. She gives me the thumbs up on that one. She also has a sign on the laundry room door "24 hour service, drop your drawers here".
John C. Hastie, what is wrong with you? You insult a channel that you stopped to watch and you didn't even take the time to spell anything right. Do everyone a favor and don't comment anywhere ever again. 👍
OK, can't stand it any more so I gotta ask. When you got the chain saw and held it sideways all that time to cut a little off the top of the log so the woodmizer would clear it. Why didn't you just raise the woodmizer blade to cut the top of the log off and then go back and make your quartersaw cut down the middle of the log? It that beyond the woodmizers capability to cut that high above the bed?
This might be a DUMB question but why use the chain saw to cut all those little top parts off when u have the BIG WOODMIZER LT15 and cut them off fast???
That isn't quarter sawing; it's just plain sawing a log that was cut into quarters. The boards cut from the middle of each quarter of the log will be pretty much quarter sawn, but the angle of additional cuts will decrease very rapidly and will soon be less than the minimum that normally qualifies as quarter sawn. Rift sawing is even more difficult than quarter sawing because so few of the saw cuts are parallel.
Looked quarter sawn to me, at some point of course it's not really qualifying as quarter sawn wood but less yield is in the nature of that type of sawing.
I'm not Chuck --- That is the correct, fastest and most even way of doing quarter sawing. Everyone should know all you have to do, is take your cut at the correct thickness just above the deck and leave the cant on top to turn 90 degrees each way "in a back and forth turn" each time, simple!
hmmm. that chainsaw is not your friend. Your friend is the woodmiser. If you turned the log over, and used a level on the vertical surface for squareness your blade would thank you. Not sure what you are doing, lifting both ends, then cutting the top with a chainsaw like an alaskan mill. hmmm. I am probably stupid. thanks for the video, and the quarter sawing.
I just want to say YES YOU QUARTERED THE LOG---- Then you quit quarter sawing-- you were just plain ole planking--- If you had placed your quarter POINT out toward the dogs-- you would then have been cutting correctly and making a determination exactly where the 2 " board center was and measuring up to see how many sections it would yield maybe 2-3. Anyhow the first cut from center has to be made either 2" or 4" above the center to yield 2 or four sticks. You really had me believing in your experience till you cut this wood to xxxx -- This is not quarter sawing watch a video or two. I am older than you so I am not speaking from the bleachers. I always inform myself beyond doubt.
Keep watching the videos, especially where I developed the tool for radial cutting then your belief will come back friend. Thank you for comment and keeping me on my toes.
CHRIST DIED FOR OUR SINS HE WAS BURIED AND ON THE THIRD DAY HE WAS RAISED FROM THE DEAD IN THE FLESH AND SEEN OF OVER 500 EYEWITNESSES AT ONCE..THIS SAME RISEN SAVIOR COMMANDS EVERYONE, EVERY WHERE TO REPENT AND BE BORN AGAIN TO ESCAPE THE FIRES OF ETERNAL TORMENT IN HELL...MAY GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR LOVED ONE FOREVER IN CHRIST JESUS
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Nice quarter demo; good effort put forth, enjoyed the video.
Thank You for sharing I enjoy my own Milling but also enjoy your projects as well. I suppose it is age related.
Thanks Joe I am going to practice on pine before I cut up my red oak log.I need some pine spindles for a railing
I love wrap around porches!
I do also they remind me of the south. Thank you for comment
I’ve only just watched this so I imagine in the last couple years you’ve realized you can use your LT15 a lot more efficiently and safely
Your awesome buddy!!
Have to admit I really didn’t get why quartering until I saw the finished product. Really interesting.
I got you covered my next video should explain all. Battery dead oh well. Tomorrow.
You made that look easy.
Very nice. Thanks
Love the video.
You could have cut the top off with mill instead of the chain saw. What am I missing?
Nothing better then good old fashion work..if you keep this pace up you'll be down to your high school fighting weight...you've probably noticed your stamina getting stronger the more time you put in at the mill..nice job..! What the heck was that big building needing the railings..?
That is a house I built, I am using wood from the Woodmizer to finish it. Truthfully I actually do feel better and better. I did lose some weight. Thanks for the comment.
Great videos.....1/4 sawed spindles are lot of work for you to get straight grained 2X2's......not sure I fully understand....watch all your videos...thanks
nicely done.
Thank you. I saw your comment about the fishing trip but I cant find it now. But my comment to it is that for some reason the kindness always comes back somehow.
I'm thinking it may be easier to take the first cut to 2 inches above dead center and remove that half, then do another cut that is two inches thick, and then another one that is 2 inches thick. Those two boards should be almost completely quartersawn wood with some pith in in the center that could be removed. Then when you could quarter the bottom piece and finish the bottom half. I think that it would be less moving of the wood. I haven't done this, but I think that it makes sense.
The one thing to remember is the further you are from the pith the further you are from 1/4 sawn. Thanks for the comment.
True dat. You could just go 1 inch above the center and one below, that would be dead center and perfect quarter sawn with the pith in the middle . By cutting two inches above you end up with the same results that you had by quartered the log first, but you get the first four cuts before you quarter, which should be less moving of the logs. Thanks for the quick reply! :-)
You will like the jig I made for perfect 1/4 sawn lumber, check it out. ruclips.net/video/8PG96-80DCk/видео.html
Cool! I will!
@@josaljo1 Shannon is absolutely making the exact same cuts you are with considerable less work. (you did split the log right through the pith didn't you?)
I'm 20 min in, the chainsaw is out - if only they made an easier device that could saw off the top of that log quickly and evenly.....
Lots of big knots, hopefully you can get enough length between them? I cut white pine on a belsaw in the Adirondacks many decades ago, don’t miss that pitch! Had to wash everything with lestoil, or just not wash them at all.
Also, do you not have a wood hook? Makes handling so much easier.
Could edit log set up and fast forward mill work plenty of wood mizer clups. Just need to see your 1/4 saw set up not hiking down the road. Show us the product in lumber yard and price comparison.
Joe, You need a log deck. I was afraid that first off cut was going to get you. I know you're constrained for space but a log deck lets you load the deck so they roll right off onto the mill and you could roll logs off of the saw onto the deck without the deck getting away from you.
You are right about what you are saying here. But I like the ability to roll away the flitches from the bunk so I can load another log. Having the backhoe makes loading easy and offing the flitches harder. This was my best compromise for now. But when it comes to quarter sawing, my system needs improvement that I noticed as well. Because I have to move half of the log and then bring it back. This is also why quartersawn boards command a higher price, more work. Thanks for the comment.
I was a little hard on you for the saw work. When sharpening a power saw chain by hand make SURE that both sides are at the same angle. If one side is more than the other you will saw in circles, the chain pulls to one side more than the other, think of you bandsaw.
I appreciate quarter sawn wood, but on a 2 x2 wouldn't all fo them be quarter sawn if you just rotate them 90 degrees. top and bottom faces flat sawn but left and right faces quarter sawn? Or vice versa? Rift sawn appear quarter sawn all the way around.
All true, that vid was mainly about the jig. Good commentl thank you.
I'm sitting here wondering why you don't take your first cut 1" up from center, and the second 1" down from center since that 2" slab will have totally vertical grain. You can often get 3x 2" slabs that have vertical grain out of the middle of the log, and that's what you're aiming for with quarter sawing. Then you start flipping the log to continue getting near vertical grain. It'll save you a bunch of work.
double your production by cutting two of the quarters at the same time, side by side.
That will work, just a little tough for one guy to set up. Thanks for the comment.
Amazed at your work ethics at your age Joe! I have just one thought...if you are resawing to 2x2's later, why go to this much trouble when a flat sawed plank will yield quarter sawed when it is re-sawed into 2x2's?
Not all of them will be 2x2s I have a lot of maple that I wanted in quarter sawn boards for furniture. The jig was a test to see if I could get the perfect 90 degree annual rings and how I would do it. Thanks for the compliment my whole family had those ethics long before I came around.
I was wondering if you installed a French drain to keep water from reaching the foundation the house.
The foundation is poured concrete, no basement, with a 12" concrete slab floor. The ground slopes away from the home water will never be an issue. Thanks for the comment.
I just got a LT15 so I have been watching every video I can find and yours are excellent. I have to say, you are the only guy I have seen to mill QS lumber from the bottom. Are you finding that you get more yield and less waste this way? It sure does seem like it. Thanks again for sharing this.
I try and stay away from the pith of hardwood so i can trim it from the qyarter sawn boards.
@@josaljo1 never run a mill ,but I worked in one take the boards off as you cut so it takes pressure of the blade with all that weight it's common sence that makes your sawmill work harder,and wear your blade out faster.good vid and love that helper.
Why did you use a chain saw to trim the edge of the tree half? You already had a running saw (the Wood Mizer) that could have very quickly and more accurately trimmed that edge.
You are right and I had said in a previous comment that I did not even think of it. Thanks for the comment.
@@tinkertime7165 Thank you.
Does the pitch from pines and hemlock gum up the blade or saw?
I use pine-sol in the water works great
Pine-sol in the water that drips on the blade? Interesting. I know nothing about bandsaws and was just curious.
Not exactly gum up the blade, but when I sharpen the blades I usually put silicone spray on the blade to clean it and it is not that bad. While cutting though is another problem, the blade entering and leaving the log can buckle it you dont use some kind of lube, water or something.
Duane < at what dilution?
Judd _S It depends on how green the word is if it’s really green or use a lot of Pine-Sol if it’s not so green are useless Pine-Sol just play around with it and see
This is the technique I'd use if I were trying to quarter saw logs into boards. No special jigs or fixtures needed.
But this is an effort in futility if you are cutting all 2x2s. Why waste all the time to reposition the log at all? Just start cutting 2" slabs from the top down through the log. Then stand them up against the log stops and edge them to get a square edge on each slab. After the slabs are dried, you can stand them up, ganged together, on the squared edges and cut your 2x2s.
By the way you do a lot of bull-work for a guy that says he doesn't like to do heavy lifting!
I have been waiting for months to see who would realize that 2x2 are always 1/4 sawn, and here you are. Thanks for the comment.
I'm new to sawing. I'm building a timber frame that I need 6x10's for. I will be using cedar as that is what I have available. How important do you think it would it be to mill those rafter beams quarter sawn?
You will have to have pretty big logs to quarter saw that size. I think wuarter sawn would be strongest if the logs are good.
If I was wanting to make spindles I would want to use rift cut 2x2s instead of quarter sawed. 45 deg. tends to be best for turning. Look at all 4 sides of of a quarter sawed 2x2 and 2 sides will look like quarter sawed,and 2 sides will look flat sawed. Look at all 4 sides of a 2x2 that was rift sawed at about 45 deg. and all 4 sides will appear quarter sawed. The strange things a person learns in life. Then again I guess that I'm kind of a strange guy. LOL. Have a good one.
Couldn't you just use your sawmill and raise it up to cut off the knobs and excess? Would seem easier and quicker than fighting that chain saw. Terry
do you realize how quickly you could have had a broken femur in your leg at around 11:45 in the video?
Yes I do, and at 63 years old and all the broken bones that came from sporting events, I vowed to give them up. Never got hurt yet from working. Thanks for comment I do appreciate your concern.
MAYBE CHOCKS BEHIND WHEELS WOULD HAVE HELD CART IN PLACE NO NEED TO GET INTO THAT DANGER AREA
You mentioned in another video, where you diagramed QS on the computer, a jig that you were developing. I don’t see a follow up video to that, Did you ever develop that jig? Thanks again.
ruclips.net/video/8PG96-80DCk/видео.html
A cut out diagram and finished product with your cut out list.
Joe can you tell me which did you get on your Wood Miser, Sawmill. How many HP engine, you have. And do you think it is large enough if .Thank you Neil
It is the LT15 standard, 19 HP gas motor. I think the motor is plenty strong enough for the mill.
Thank you Joe .
Does your wife ever get mad about you dragging sawdust into the house? I know it is impossible to get it all off. Keep up the good work it's always nice to see what you got going on.
I built a mud room onto my house, I am allowed that far. She sweeps it every day. I can get dirty in less than 3 minutes she actually likes the sawdust better than the grease and dirt from auto repair. Not only that we are so remote, I strip and shake my clothes off outside. She gives me the thumbs up on that one. She also has a sign on the laundry room door "24 hour service, drop your drawers here".
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John C. Hastie, what is wrong with you? You insult a channel that you stopped to watch and you didn't even take the time to spell anything right. Do everyone a favor and don't comment anywhere ever again. 👍
Thanks for your comment.
Josaljo Won, I hate when people comment like that, makes no sense. Keep up the good work and don't feed the trolls
Not sure why the full chainsaw?? Wouldn't the bandsaw have done that?
OK, can't stand it any more so I gotta ask. When you got the chain saw and held it sideways all that time to cut a little off the top of the log so the woodmizer would clear it. Why didn't you just raise the woodmizer blade to cut the top of the log off and then go back and make your quartersaw cut down the middle of the log? It that beyond the woodmizers capability to cut that high above the bed?
That one time I did not use the woodmizer, but I learn fast and do use it to trim unless the log is more than 27" high. Thanks for the comment.
does the motor have to keep running as long-i'd have gone electric if i had a building.
Where I live, we just got electricity about 4 years ago, so gas was my choice. Thanks for comment.
What's your maximum depth of cut? In other words, if you wanted to quarter a log, what's the biggest quarter (i.e. radius) you can cut off?
8 inches or so.
@@josaljo1 Thank you!
This might be a DUMB question but why use the chain saw to cut all those little top parts off when u have the BIG WOODMIZER LT15 and cut them off fast???
Otherwise you would have to rotate the log to all the limbs ???
Great video, Joe to me it looks like the saw would roll off the end, I guess there is a stop.
joemc111 Yes at both ends there is a stop.
You got a sawmill but yet you're using the chainsaw to trim the log.
That mill is different than most I've seen. You are walking on the same side the sawdust is coming out on.
I dont know why that seems to bother a lot of people, does not bother me at all.
I dont know why that seems to bother a lot of people, does not bother me at all.
Whatever became of the wooden crane project?
It got sidetracked, but not forgotten.
Sir please price inform me this machine.
No ear plugs?
i do not understand why you did not just square up the log as normal and then cut your needed wood pieces from the cord ??
That isn't quarter sawing; it's just plain sawing a log that was cut into quarters. The boards cut from the middle of each quarter of the log will be pretty much quarter sawn, but the angle of additional cuts will decrease very rapidly and will soon be less than the minimum that normally qualifies as quarter sawn. Rift sawing is even more difficult than quarter sawing because so few of the saw cuts are parallel.
You might want to check out what 1/4 sawn wood is. I turned the log with every turn, also the results give the answer.
Looked quarter sawn to me, at some point of course it's not really qualifying as quarter sawn wood but less yield is in the nature of that type of sawing.
Thank You, and you are correct.
I'm not Chuck --- That is the correct, fastest and most even way of doing quarter sawing. Everyone should know all you have to do, is take your cut at the correct thickness just above the deck and leave the cant on top to turn 90 degrees each way "in a back and forth turn" each time, simple!
Why not use your bandsaw
How much in Rands this machine
IS there a way I can reach out to you with a personal message or email? Thanks, Dave.
hmmm. that chainsaw is not your friend. Your friend is the woodmiser. If you turned the log over, and used a level on the vertical surface for squareness your blade would thank you. Not sure what you are doing, lifting both ends, then cutting the top with a chainsaw like an alaskan mill. hmmm. I am probably stupid. thanks for the video, and the quarter sawing.
why quater sawing it waist a lot of lumber
It all depends on what you want the wood to do as it gains and loses moisture.
Why bother quartersawing while pine, do white or red oak.
junk i would call it firewood
True, thanks for the comment.
i'm exhausted watching you, i would have just pulled some numbers and cut from the top rather than manhandle all the wood, just saying.
I like trying new things, how much work it is doesnt enter the picture to often. Thanks for the comment.
Sharpen your saw . Lol
I just want to say YES YOU QUARTERED THE LOG---- Then you quit quarter sawing-- you were just plain ole planking--- If you had placed your quarter POINT out toward the dogs-- you would then have been cutting correctly and making a determination exactly where the 2 " board center was and measuring up to see how many sections it would yield maybe 2-3. Anyhow the first cut from center has to be made either 2" or 4" above the center to yield 2 or four sticks. You really had me believing in your experience till you cut this wood to xxxx -- This is not quarter sawing watch a video or two. I am older than you so I am not speaking from the bleachers. I always inform myself beyond doubt.
Keep watching the videos, especially where I developed the tool for radial cutting then your belief will come back friend. Thank you for comment and keeping me on my toes.
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CHRIST DIED FOR OUR SINS HE WAS BURIED AND ON THE THIRD DAY HE WAS RAISED FROM THE DEAD IN THE FLESH AND SEEN OF OVER 500 EYEWITNESSES AT ONCE..THIS SAME RISEN SAVIOR COMMANDS EVERYONE, EVERY WHERE TO REPENT AND BE BORN AGAIN TO ESCAPE THE FIRES OF ETERNAL TORMENT IN HELL...MAY GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR LOVED ONE FOREVER IN CHRIST JESUS