As a Jew I really appreciate this video and I'm very happy with the way you covered the subject. What saddens me about anti antisemitism is not only does it harm us but after societies target Jews they often end up destroying themselves. H*[ler left Germany in total ruin, and today Iran is in poverty despite the 3rd largest oil reserves on earth (excluding oil sands). I wish one day anti Semites would love their children more than they hate ours.
most Palestinian had 80% semitic blood and ancestry more than any Israeli who had at least 30% because a lot of them came from Europe while claimed to be Jewish.
@@owensdagoat So the same people pledging to wipe them out and eradicate them, murder all the women, the babies, the men, one by one, simply because they’re jewish are 80% jewish themselves? Wow.
it also stems from the edgy content we had back in the internet wild west with Pepe, once media sites began to regulate the edgelords reminisce about the "old days" and Trump's electoral win is kind of a lightning rod for the move to re-edgeify the internet. Don't get me wrong I used to find that stuff funny but the media landscape is much more different nowadays, holocaust jokes don't have as much zing as the 9/11 ones
This is the ideology of a lot of conservatives, which is called reactionary politics. Being anti-liberalism is very common in conservatives circles. Morality has become more important than rights.
@@thomasffrench3639 plenty of Left-affiliated groups engage with antisemitic rhetoric as well, there isn't a "oh this is only what the right wing does" issue anymore it's normalized because of the Gaza conflict and it shouldn't be.
@@kingbooomer9231 I don’t disagree, but I find the right wing way more sinister. The main issue is where the pro-Palestine ends, and the anti-semitism begins, which is a big problem as it deludes their cause. What I find interesting is that Evangelicals are anti-Semitic, but support Israel.
@@thomasffrench3639 I mean... i do believe that liberalism is a failing project, but i believe in REASONED critique, not contrarianism for its own sake
What makes this wave of denial even more striking is the level of gaslighting coming from the denier camp. It mostly comes from people who also share pro-Palestine allegiance. They use their denial as a way to elevate their own cause and shoehorn in everything that has happened toward Jews and to appropriate it for themselves.
@@thomasffrench3639 9:57 this is the truth I ask you not to deny that the left has people who do not believe in holocaust because the truth is this is everywhere
Such a sad denegration of society when something so horrific and traumatising for an entire community such as Judaism is now all over again being denied, mocked and villified by people with nothing but greed and power in their minds. So horrific. And The Left's moral crusade is no better. Yes, The situation in Palestine is horrible but blame the Israel government not the community itself. There's a better path, but as usual, people pick the wrong way rather than the right one.
"The Left's moral crusade" my ass. Conservatives are the ones talking about morality and how we are becoming degenerate without "traditional family values".
Society has been degrading and the dumbing down of our education has led kids to follow channels and media groups that promote all sorts of insane thoughts.
Imagine being someone who survived the Holocaust and being jeered on the street by someone who will go into a conniption fit if YOU don't validate THEIR personal identity. That's what makes this so infuriating. Also, this is what happens when parents aren't allowed to smack sense into kids who do shit like this. Try doing this crap 20 years ago, you'd rightfully get your face punched in.
I didn't watch the video but basically why people deny the holycost is because in American schools they teach about it badly and in American media they talk about it a lot. And why people hate Jews it has been similar tropes since Roman times so its likely inherited, people like having a minority to hate and Jews always fit the narrative.
there's a reason, it's just the reason is very.... racially based more than anything where institutions and cultures of the western world in its plurality disagrees with those viewpoints. People will always have their biases, it takes another maligned step to vocally affirm them
There’s a variety of reasons, the most common is either racial attribution to Israel, or the belief Jews are a monolith corrupting society. It’s all silly.
social reasons, the jews always got kicked out of every kingdom they lived in, there is reasons for it, they can't change their culture or behaviour but is not like they are the worst anyway, muslims are far worse, Different cultures will always fight it's normal, if they say women can't be free and you say they can then ofc you will fight over it, jews say they are the superior people and all land was given to them by God, you can see how this would piss off anyone who owns land, so they were never given any and kicked out every time until Israel was finally made by the English. Never expect culture or worse religion to ever work together outside of itself, another example would be forcing a Christian to live with an Hindu when one says you die and go to heaven and the other says you get reincarnated as an animal, yeah those 2 are as opposite as it gets.
I think this is another reason for the rise in Holocaust denial Israel trying to make themselves seem like the victim in all this makes people question if they were ever the victim
So disappointed in my fellow Zoomers. The public school system in Michigan did a great job of educating me about the holocaust, is this not so in other states?
Idk how good michigan schools are but my school went with the lie of "hitler wanting to kill everyone that didn't have blonde hair and blue eyes" which is an obvious myth
Holo/caust denial isn't necessarily the greatest problem. Love for Hit/ler, his beliefs, Germany's war being necessary, and anti/semitism, is more concerning online. Neutral channels online are seemingly pro-Na/zi now. It's overwhelmingly troubling.
Ive seen many politics channel on yt after the election and i can assure you, you're a great great channel and your non-biased view is a rare. If only you upload more frequently
This whole video just screams, "Look at all of these people who are clearly wrong and I'm smarter than." No nuance, no interest in the cause or arguments. You may not be left or right biased, but Roca is clearly showing a bias on this topic.
@WeThe66 people used to believe that the Earth was at the center of the universe or that Columbus was the first European to reach the Western hemisphere. And not all arguments are absolutes, sometimes there are arguments in the middle. "Holocaust denial" is a scapegoat term for people who are simply questioning what they have been told. We don't call people "George Washington deniers" because they questioned whether a historical event attributed to him is rightly attributed.
Not denying it at all, as someone who distrusts major news outlets, but would be cool to see some numbers just how much younger audiences don’t trust major institutions like news or the government
I think you missed a key point he brought up. These misinformation campaigns start in the schools. The highest standards of education like Ivy League universities are the strongholds of these beliefs.
@@roy6907 Maybe I should clarify: curricula in an ideal media and information literacy course would be entirely non-political and center around non-contentious theories. Maybe Investigating how the moon landing is not fake, for instance, or why the earth isn't flat. What heuristics can we use to validate our beliefs? Next phase would be about incentive structures - why are the most outrageous or agreeable media pushed to us, how do we identify it, and how do we bulwark ourselves against these manipulations? I would do it at the high school level.
"the jews are not human" well that's a positive since humans are kinda shit, sadly we all are humans. Also why do people feel like denying this? it's not even top 50 of the most violent things in history lol, the Mongols did far worse in all of north-central Asia into Russia, the ancient kingdoms were far worse and don't even go into the tribal people of africa, america and south asia, it's horrors beyond compression, like the Australian,New Zealand and islands tribes like the mauri tribes where they used peoples heads to trade for things, yup kinda insane and evil as fuck. Conclusion the nazis were soft compared to the past of human history.
Hi, it’s Māori, not mauri. To imply that some human atrocities invalidate others based on varying degrees of severity is the type of reductionist thinking that is promoted on social media and is fueling these denial accounts. We can be saddened, outraged, and moved to action by all crimes against humanity. We don’t have to pick and choose. Also, I wonder if you’ve noticed that the examples you’ve used of people who were supposedly worse than the Nazis are all non-white, mostly indigenous groups? All of whom were also targeted for systematic erasure by European and American colonizers.
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imagine an event so real and true that its a crime to even question the numbers of it ...
damn you beat me to it
As a Jew I really appreciate this video and I'm very happy with the way you covered the subject. What saddens me about anti antisemitism is not only does it harm us but after societies target Jews they often end up destroying themselves. H*[ler left Germany in total ruin, and today Iran is in poverty despite the 3rd largest oil reserves on earth (excluding oil sands).
I wish one day anti Semites would love their children more than they hate ours.
most Palestinian had 80% semitic blood and ancestry more than any Israeli who had at least 30% because a lot of them came from Europe while claimed to be Jewish.
@@owensdagoat So the same people pledging to wipe them out and eradicate them, murder all the women, the babies, the men, one by one, simply because they’re jewish are 80% jewish themselves? Wow.
@@owensdagoat Not once did I mention Palestinians or the conflict. Funny how you bring them up when I mention suicidal ideologies as a whole.
i believe this is an overreaction to "stick it to the wokes", a sort of contrarianism for the sake of contrarianism
it also stems from the edgy content we had back in the internet wild west with Pepe, once media sites began to regulate the edgelords reminisce about the "old days" and Trump's electoral win is kind of a lightning rod for the move to re-edgeify the internet. Don't get me wrong I used to find that stuff funny but the media landscape is much more different nowadays, holocaust jokes don't have as much zing as the 9/11 ones
This is the ideology of a lot of conservatives, which is called reactionary politics. Being anti-liberalism is very common in conservatives circles. Morality has become more important than rights.
@@thomasffrench3639 plenty of Left-affiliated groups engage with antisemitic rhetoric as well, there isn't a "oh this is only what the right wing does" issue anymore it's normalized because of the Gaza conflict and it shouldn't be.
@@kingbooomer9231 I don’t disagree, but I find the right wing way more sinister. The main issue is where the pro-Palestine ends, and the anti-semitism begins, which is a big problem as it deludes their cause. What I find interesting is that Evangelicals are anti-Semitic, but support Israel.
@@thomasffrench3639 I mean... i do believe that liberalism is a failing project, but i believe in REASONED critique, not contrarianism for its own sake
Sad to see the further degradation of individuals' critical thinking skills despite the resources most everyone has access to.
the world iq increases so does anti Semitism
coincidence i think not
good to see the left and right coming together for a noble cause
Uh oh I hope the comments won't be swarmed by deniers
Me when holocaust deniers swarm every single holocaust section of youtube and complain how much youtube is gonna repress them
@@gladys2563 So true lmao
What makes this wave of denial even more striking is the level of gaslighting coming from the denier camp. It mostly comes from people who also share pro-Palestine allegiance. They use their denial as a way to elevate their own cause and shoehorn in everything that has happened toward Jews and to appropriate it for themselves.
There’s plenty of denial on the other side too. Actually I cannot think of any examples of denial on the left, it would be nice to have some examples
@@thomasffrench3639 7:31
@@thomasffrench3639 9:07
@@thomasffrench3639 9:57 this is the truth I ask you not to deny that the left has people who do not believe in holocaust because the truth is this is everywhere
I'd like to formally seperate myself from my fellow genZ peole who actually deny the holocaust.
Such a sad denegration of society when something so horrific and traumatising for an entire community such as Judaism is now all over again being denied, mocked and villified by people with nothing but greed and power in their minds. So horrific. And The Left's moral crusade is no better. Yes, The situation in Palestine is horrible but blame the Israel government not the community itself. There's a better path, but as usual, people pick the wrong way rather than the right one.
"The Left's moral crusade" my ass. Conservatives are the ones talking about morality and how we are becoming degenerate without "traditional family values".
Overwhelming israeli population are in support of present government. That is how you get to form government.
Overwhelming israeli population are in support of present government. That is how you get to form government.
Overwhelming israeli population are in support of present government. That is how you get to form government.
Really again? This is just ridiculous
Society has been degrading and the dumbing down of our education has led kids to follow channels and media groups that promote all sorts of insane thoughts.
Imagine being someone who survived the Holocaust and being jeered on the street by someone who will go into a conniption fit if YOU don't validate THEIR personal identity. That's what makes this so infuriating.
Also, this is what happens when parents aren't allowed to smack sense into kids who do shit like this. Try doing this crap 20 years ago, you'd rightfully get your face punched in.
So people just discriminate against Jewish ppl for no reason?
I didn't watch the video but basically why people deny the holycost is because in American schools they teach about it badly and in American media they talk about it a lot. And why people hate Jews it has been similar tropes since Roman times so its likely inherited, people like having a minority to hate and Jews always fit the narrative.
there's a reason, it's just the reason is very.... racially based more than anything where institutions and cultures of the western world in its plurality disagrees with those viewpoints. People will always have their biases, it takes another maligned step to vocally affirm them
There’s a variety of reasons, the most common is either racial attribution to Israel, or the belief Jews are a monolith corrupting society. It’s all silly.
social reasons, the jews always got kicked out of every kingdom they lived in, there is reasons for it, they can't change their culture or behaviour but is not like they are the worst anyway, muslims are far worse,
Different cultures will always fight it's normal, if they say women can't be free and you say they can then ofc you will fight over it, jews say they are the superior people and all land was given to them by God, you can see how this would piss off anyone who owns land, so they were never given any and kicked out every time until Israel was finally made by the English.
Never expect culture or worse religion to ever work together outside of itself, another example would be forcing a Christian to live with an Hindu when one says you die and go to heaven and the other says you get reincarnated as an animal, yeah those 2 are as opposite as it gets.
Christians blame them for the death of Christ while Muslims' Quran is openly against Jews
October 7th, NEVER FORGET 🇮🇱
2000 vs 40000 deaths, Never forget. Pictures of gaza never forget.
@@dennisthemenace4288 Did Israel purposefully target civilians? Does Israel put rocket launching facilities under civilian living spaces?
As an American, why should I care?
I think this is another reason for the rise in Holocaust denial Israel trying to make themselves seem like the victim in all this makes people question if they were ever the victim
Jarvis check the stats
So disappointed in my fellow Zoomers. The public school system in Michigan did a great job of educating me about the holocaust, is this not so in other states?
I remember how we were taught about the ovens and the human wax, which were disproven
Idk how good michigan schools are but my school went with the lie of "hitler wanting to kill everyone that didn't have blonde hair and blue eyes" which is an obvious myth
Thank you for talking about this. Now I know a history lesson I need to have with my children
Holo/caust denial isn't necessarily the greatest problem. Love for Hit/ler, his beliefs, Germany's war being necessary, and anti/semitism, is more concerning online. Neutral channels online are seemingly pro-Na/zi now. It's overwhelmingly troubling.
Ive seen many politics channel on yt after the election and i can assure you, you're a great great channel and your non-biased view is a rare. If only you upload more frequently
This whole video just screams, "Look at all of these people who are clearly wrong and I'm smarter than." No nuance, no interest in the cause or arguments. You may not be left or right biased, but Roca is clearly showing a bias on this topic.
Biased on whether the Holocaust happened? Should we apply nuance to the question of whether George Washington existed, too? Or that the sky is blue?
@WeThe66 people used to believe that the Earth was at the center of the universe or that Columbus was the first European to reach the Western hemisphere. And not all arguments are absolutes, sometimes there are arguments in the middle. "Holocaust denial" is a scapegoat term for people who are simply questioning what they have been told. We don't call people "George Washington deniers" because they questioned whether a historical event attributed to him is rightly attributed.
Not denying it at all, as someone who distrusts major news outlets, but would be cool to see some numbers just how much younger audiences don’t trust major institutions like news or the government
Holocaust denial? Baaaasedddd
Cringe
you have a marble statue as a pfp you literally have no legitimate voice lmfao
Legitimizing Hitler in order to attack liberalism is not cool dude
Little Timmy thinks that denying the murder of millions is funny😐
@@Alt300 Millions? it's maximum 271k
media and information literacy has to be taught in school
I think you missed a key point he brought up. These misinformation campaigns start in the schools. The highest standards of education like Ivy League universities are the strongholds of these beliefs.
@@roy6907 Maybe I should clarify: curricula in an ideal media and information literacy course would be entirely non-political and center around non-contentious theories. Maybe Investigating how the moon landing is not fake, for instance, or why the earth isn't flat. What heuristics can we use to validate our beliefs? Next phase would be about incentive structures - why are the most outrageous or agreeable media pushed to us, how do we identify it, and how do we bulwark ourselves against these manipulations? I would do it at the high school level.
@@roy6907 Yeah the right is trying to use PragerU to indoctrinate kids.
The victors write the history
So if the Nazis won then the Holocaust never happened according to you?
@@FishWithAquaphobia Yeah, this is a really stupid argument. The Lost Cause myth for example is the losers creating their own history.
Do you want loosers to write it huh
unsubbed for shilling for the js
Ok chud
OK leftist racist
Acknowledging literal history = shilling apparently.
Fuck you.
@@gabenorman747he’s probably a righty
Cry about it.
Stop the Lies!😢
"the jews are not human" well that's a positive since humans are kinda shit, sadly we all are humans.
Also why do people feel like denying this? it's not even top 50 of the most violent things in history lol, the Mongols did far worse in all of north-central Asia into Russia, the ancient kingdoms were far worse and don't even go into the tribal people of africa, america and south asia, it's horrors beyond compression, like the Australian,New Zealand and islands tribes like the mauri tribes where they used peoples heads to trade for things, yup kinda insane and evil as fuck.
Conclusion the nazis were soft compared to the past of human history.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust
just look it urself
They killed almost 20 million people in 5 years
@@SheldonITA-ct2zo look what? also it's Yourself not urself.
Hi, it’s Māori, not mauri.
To imply that some human atrocities invalidate others based on varying degrees of severity is the type of reductionist thinking that is promoted on social media and is fueling these denial accounts. We can be saddened, outraged, and moved to action by all crimes against humanity. We don’t have to pick and choose.
Also, I wonder if you’ve noticed that the examples you’ve used of people who were supposedly worse than the Nazis are all non-white, mostly indigenous groups? All of whom were also targeted for systematic erasure by European and American colonizers.
classic 66 W
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