The Day The Walking Dead Died... Again
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- Опубликовано: 22 фев 2023
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Now that The Walking Dead has come to an end, I thought it was time to re-examine the end of the series, its possible rebirth, and the moment it died again.
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*What should I explore next in my Day **___** Died series?*
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The 100.
Maybe it's too soon to tell, but "The Day The MCU Died" could be an interesting essay
This might be risky, but I wonder what it would be like to do a broader, social commentary on something like the day streaming died, or the day a certain platform died, or the day of certain music genre died, or the day a certain book series died, or the day a certain style of filmmaking died,… not asking you to leave film and TV series, but my curiosity can’t help but want to hear some spicy death knell takes on broader industry stuff.
The Witcher
I finally "finished" it last week. Really annoying how it doesn't end and just branches off into different future shows.
Yuuuuuup!
Seems like they want those new shows to be a jump back on moment for people who left. Not working on me and I've heard no excitement from others either.
Yeah imagine sticking with it week by week for 10 years and not even getting a actual ending to all my favorite characters. Thanks AMC I hate it.
I finished it last November. Try to keep up.
@TryRememberThemGg
Yeah and the fact that it ends with a flashback scene of all things is even worse. The whole Rick ending is a flashback because in Season 10 we see Michonne find the boots and phone. So the whole last scene was a bloody flashback.
Now we got to wait for these damn spin offs. Why does everything have to have spin offs?? Seriously they are just trying to milk the property for as much as it is worth to get every penny before throwing it away.
I didn't even know the show ended. A show that at one point had 18 million viewers, a show that I used to love.
Wow, I just looked it up and it went from that huge number to just 2 mil. during the final season.
It looks like the majority of the original viewers didn't even check the finale...
But hey, it's not our fault (the viewers). The show just got stale and dragged on forever.
@@shmookins yeah that was live viewers tho, that’s not counting people who record it, or people who especially past s9/s10 used AMC Plus which btw they have over 9 Million Subscribers on that network itself which could see the episodes a week early
Those numbers are for cable tv, most people watch shows on streaming services nowadays, including TWD. Its crazy how you judge a shows merits solely on viewership though.
Same
@@blockedhaat Yet I haven't heard anyone irl talk about the show since the time it died the first time. I saw some people online talking about the post rick situation with optimism but it wasn't enough to get me back in. I still remember being able to talk about walkers with so many different groups of people only for it to never be spoken about again
Neegan was cool as a prisoner. Like an evil advisor who tells you the hardest truths. After though? Him with Maggie it felt forced. I just don't see a woman spending time with a man who beat her husband to death in front of her.
TWD stopped being a story and became just a way to keep people watching a TV show. Even its "Finale" was just a device to get you to watch the spinoffs.
it followed the source material pretty strictly until the end though
It's a comic adaptation. What is it supposed to do? Not follow the comics?
@@RamielDerLinke yes? I'm sorry if this is how the original material is, it's bad. Throughout all the 11 seasons there is barely any build up. A good story has an exposition, a build up and a climax. This show just keeps on dragging in a constant state of repetition, the same narratives, same topics, same emotions. So many events are incoherent and don't effect anything that comes after it. I swear you can skip like 5 episodes in this show and not miss a single important thing and understand 95% of what's happening. In a good show, every scene serves a purpose.
its a fucking comic book adaptation
everything has to be a franchise now. It sucks. Instead of just letting a popular show or movie play out the arc that it needs to, it inevitably becomes a cash grab.
"i watched all 177 episodes so you don't have to" i am so sorry
I do it because I love my viewers.
@@EntertainTheElkand you love the series hehe
@@handsomeman9433 bro did you even watched the video? He clearly doesn’t
@@dazinqwilly3385 ohhhhhhhh, I did.
Quick point on "variant" Walkers - They were introduced from the very beginning. In Season 1 we saw instances of more intelligent Walkers utilising tools, climbing, running and there was the whole part with Morgan's dead wife trying to open their front door every night, showing that Walkers could retain some small essence of their humanity and gravitate towards places they spent time in when alive. The whole idea just got buried in the Season 2 BTS drama and never came up again until the end.
I honestly think the concept of variant was introduced to make up for a plot hole caused by bad writing and inconsistent writing that followed the firing of Frank Darabont.
Agree and also when Rick met Glenn t dog Andrea Merle and the rest at a clothing store the walkers were trying to get in and there was one walker who had a rock in his hand trying to break the glass door to get in.
Absolutely the result of inconsistent writing. The walkers from season 1 and the first bits of season 2 were Darabont’s vision for walkers. Had little bits of humanity. Hell, they even RAN in large groups. Truly scary.
Season 2 and 3 had some very interesting walkers. Such as the RV walkers going into the RV on the highway even though he had no reason and he was actively looking for life. Then in season 3 there was a walker that went out of his way to pull back some metal to peak inside woodbury.
lol, no they weren't. Variant walkers are just a fuckawful retcon to explain why the show made noticeable artistic changes throughout the 7 times it changed executive producers. Frank Darabont doesn't understand zombie movies, that's why there were "variant walkers" in the first season. Variant walkers did not exist in the book and there's no source for them. They literally only came up in the show because of Walking Dead World Beyond decided to add them 10 years after the original show aired.
The zombies like Morgan's wife remembering a door or the girl dragging her stuffed animal also had no source in the book and were just added for dramatic effect.
Rick was the heart and soul of the show. It could've ended when they arrived at Alexandria or when Negan was defeated, but I would've been perfectly fine if it only had one season.
They should have just bought Rick back for say 3 more seasons (up to 15) and finish it there. After season 11, make it about trying to find rick again but it was all just bull shit after Carl died. They were just making it up as they go along to milk us basically
I would be fine if they ended at the prison when they killed the governor
People who say that obviously haven't watched The Whisperers arc, it was as great as the first seasons.
@@Immolator772 Agreed. Season 9 and 10 are amazing and some of my favourite seasons of the show and it's such a shame that many people have dropped the show before they could check them out, they're really missing out!
@@Kalakeiko yeah exactly, they pretty much went back to their roots.
The first 3 seasons are still some of the best TV I've ever seen
Robert Kirkman: Finishes his story 100 chapters before he said he would, because he thought the characters reached their final destination
AMC: neat. *Doesn't even end the main plot and branches the story into 6 different shows*
Geez, At least Telltale Games knew how to end their TWD series before their eventual bankruptcy.
The Negan character would’ve never been as great as he was without Jeffrey Dean Morgan. Phenomenal actor who gave the character life. He ended up being my favorite character in the end. Who would’ve thought 😂
Hm Really? I thought he wasn't as menacing or a great villain like he was in the comics. But I'm glad there's ppl that enjoying his live action version though! (:
@@alexye456red I’m a show fan, I’ve never read the comics. I think I will now though so I can get real character comparisons. I only know tv negan lol
@@alexye456red you are saying in the comics he was even more menacing ? I also heard that in the comics he dies a very sad death as he is forced into isolation in the woods and nobody visited him anymore except for Carl grimes
@@Dark_Angel555way scarier in the comics and no he doesn’t die nor is the end of his story bad he gets redeemed he’s a hero at the end probably one of the the best character arcs of all time
@@LucRice the reedeming also happened in the show in season 11 ... he helped quite a lot of people and found a wife again and impregnated her - is that similar with comics ?
Appreciate you sitting through all this, I was once an avid fan but left once Lincoln left the show. For me Rick was the walking dead, Lincoln elevated every season and scene. With him gone and Carl gone, the one reason that kept him going, I realized that this series was pointless.
I absolutely love where the show is now. Everyone complained that the show was too big, had too many characters and locations and now there’s small shows based on minimal characters
This video hit hard. It reminded me of all shows that were cancelled. The OA, 1899, altered carbon, Santa Clarita, raised by wolves...
Daaaamn hello similar tastes friendo!
Still pissed about raised by wolves
Altered and rbw is unfortunate
I can't believe 1899 was cancelled, same with Archive 81.
1899 shit I really liked that show total mind fuck
after witnessing the abuse AMC put this show through I really wish it went to HBO
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No. Not after seeing what they did to The Last of Us.
@@ginagidaro What did they do with The Last of Us? Haven't watched the series, so I don't know.
HBO turned down TWD, they thought it was too violent.
The comic has an amazing ending that the tv show sadly would have never reached
How do the comics end again? I read them back in college and I can't recall
@@J1Nflo Rick is killed, then we catch up in the future were rick has a statue, walkers are rare atraction for the young and carl has a child
@@J1Nflo damn has it been that long since the comics ended?
While the comic ending is better then the show, it is by no means good, and was clearly a quick job so kirkman could focus on his failing show
No it doesn't. The comic has just as terrible of an ending where Rick dies in the second to last issue because someone got butthurt and murdered him.
Thanks for succinctly confirming my lack of interest in this franchise in under a quarter of an hour, your sacrifice will be remembered.
🦓💚
Absolutely. Glad I could take the hit for all of you.
"On the Inside" actually does sound like a great episode, from the clips I saw in this video, it looks like it's shot way differently compared to the usual TWD episodes
Absolutely! ‘On the Inside’ was genuinely creepy and had actual horror elements to it. Jump scares never affect me, but this episode had a few moments where I jumped/was on the edge of my seat. And not just because I love the Connie character. The writing/directing/producing/acting/special effects/music… every single aspect was perfect! 10/10 would recommend.
I remember when this show was an event- like, places people could gather and watch TV were noticeably busier when it was TWD time. An actor being on that show for a good while was guaranteeing people recognized their face, maybe their name too, and parlay it into other jobs so easily. By the time it ended though, an ending I didn’t even know happened, I couldn’t name any of the newer characters or their actors. I couldn’t tell you anyone I personally knew who watched it. I don’t know any of the final plot beats or main conflicts. I NEVER watched this show, not really (I watched the first season or two once I think) but I knew characters and actors and story and visuals before and after I watched any of it. Until, one day, I just… didn’t.
We aint reading allat
@@iseeathousandYou are so mad lol. You’ve left like ten comments.
I hear that. There was a time in 2015/2016 or so when we'd meet up at a friend's house every week for Walking / Talking Dead. Then bit by bit, we'd all turn to each other at the end and say, "That was another filler episode, wasn't it?" Then Talking Dead would do their best to spin it as not filler. Uh huh...
I get where you're coming from, I personally liked season 9-11, especially season 9 and 10, they're some of my favourite seasons, but it's such a shame that the show took such a big nose-dive in season 7-8 and that many people left after that, thanks to Gimple's writing and decision making.
But the show is still doing great and has a huge fanbase and viewership so the series isn't dead yet at all, especially with season 10, which is the highest rated season of the series, and the writing for the story and characters has gotten much better since then and I do think that Daryl is a good lead in the show now in my opinion, his dialogue and writing in general has been so much better and he actually has things to do and say again.
Whether you want to give the rest of the series a chance again or not is totally up to you and valid either way, though. I just want to let you know that it does get better and that I would recommend it :)
@@dorinsa116 I get where you're coming from, I personally liked season 9-11, especially season 9 and 10, they're some of my favourite seasons, but it's such a shame that the show took such a big nose-dive in season 7-8 and that many people left after that, thanks to Gimple's writing and decision making.
But the show is still doing great and has a huge fanbase and viewership so the series isn't dead yet at all, especially with season 10, which is the highest rated season of the series, and the writing for the story and characters has gotten much better since then and I do think that Daryl is a good lead in the show now in my opinion, his dialogue and writing in general has been so much better and he actually has things to do and say again.
Whether you want to give the rest of the series a chance again or not is totally up to you and valid either way, though. I just want to let you know that it does get better and that I would recommend it :)
I like how people act as if TLOU is the best show right now, when it's literally not that different from TWD.
Killing Glen ended it for me. It was Killing a family member after years, and I mean many years of watching...with different people.
YAWNNNN grow up
@TradingCardsAndMore you are watching a video of how a series deteriorated and then mock someone else's opinion about a show about zombies? I am guessing that you have another sarcastic unoriginal come back.
I agree. It was the beginning of the end when they killed off Glenn . I had no interest in watching it anymore.
The episode where Morgan meets John Carroll Lynch and he teaches Morgan how precious life is, is my favorite episode. Same with the Governor's redemption (Last Pale Light In the West) episode.
I had enough once I saw the way Carl died. I never watched a single episode after that.
Read the books they did Carl so dirty in the show. He’s a badass in the book
I actually really enjoyed the episode with Aaron, the Priest and the T - 1000.
Yeah was a good ep but really didn’t do anything for the series which I guess was kind of the point of the COVID episodes but I can understand the criticisms
I often use that episode as an example to counter when low IQ people say that filler episodes are automatically bad. 1019 is one of the best episodes of the whole show and it's filler. Sometimes a small contained story in a long series can be great.
Yeah it's a bit of a filler episode but even then it's really good. Turned Aaron and Gabe into a good pairing.
honestly that is my favourite episode of the whole show and was very tense, if this episode had like maggie and daryl instead of gabriel and aaron all the tension would be gone cause plot armour is so high but with 2 side characters it worked a million times better and on its own its great, if all filler episodes had this much thought put into it like the negan episode and this walking dead would be way more popular
Negan's redemption arc is far and away the best part of the last 3 seasons
Season 11 started getting on my nerves when 99% of his lines were nagging about "This plan sucks" for every single plan. I mean the plans did suck but still. Gladly he got more to do as it went on.
Read the books it’s a better redemption arc
The last of us also made me start thinking about the walking dead! I went back and re-watched my favorite episodes. The way it had so many constant ups and downs is almost fascinating. There’s so much that could have been done better. I wonder all the time how the show would be if AMC hadn’t gotten their hands on it, or frank darabont hadn’t been fired.
AMC bastardized Robert Kirkmans vision and so did Frank Darabont read the books
Once frank was fired, I knew it was a matter of time
I just can’t stand how so many shows take this “moral high ground” approach with their villains at the last minute, Rick letting Negan survive “to show his mercy” and meanwhile they have no issue throwing it in our face that Negan WANTS TO DIE and the characters are relishing in his suffering. It’s mercy OR it’s for revenge, you don’t get to have both.
Man what? Wasn’t the whole point Rick ‘spared’ him was so that he could rot in a cell while the new world grows?
After season 5, I decided to just watch the first two and last 2 weeks season. That way, I will know what's happening without suffering through the filler.
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That’s close to how I started watching Lost halfway through season 3.
I finished it with Season 5. And this was at least two Seasons to late. This series was garbage.
I enjoyed most of the first season, some parts of season 3 and very few episodes of Season 4 & 5.
The first six episodes of The Last of Us are better than the entire 5 seasons I watched of The Walking Boredom.
And now even the last hardcore fangirls, who were dumb enough to watch this entire snoozefest don‘t even got a good ending?
11 seasons for almost nothing?
Just a starter for even more series, who will go on for maybe another 5-10 years?
@@paralytaatylarap9715nah tlou is okay, the game is just far better and the show suffers for it. The first 5 seasons of twd are good, regardless of your opinion, it’s objectively well made, and it my personal opinion some of the best tv we’ve ever gotten. The later seasons take the show and run further into the ground than they did to GOT, honestly. Anyway, I’ve been enjoying tlou, but man, the show is so overhyped and overpraised it’s insane. It just goes to show how hungry people are for a decent show nowadays that they’ll say tlou is a masterpiece
@@paralytaatylarap9715 troll
Also recently rewatched it - the start of season 9 with Rick was such an improvement on season 7 and most of 8. Really getting into the actual day to day of survival.
I legit appreciate not having to sit through all the rest of the episodes, Cheers
You're welcome. :)
your loss
If you didn’t like all of it then that’s you, i’m perfectly fine with how it all went, it had its ups & lows but that’s every show, looking forward to the spinoffs
No, it's on the show. I'm appreciative to the Elk for his commentary and recap of a show that started off great and got muddied in its own waters half way through. I'm happy enjoyed the whole show, can you let me enjoy this video?
@@nickt4216 well I’m not saying you can’t
The finale didn't even have an ending. It had an "to be continued on the Rick & Michonne series" which sucks. After 11 years and they still couldn't really have a real ending.
Thank you for watching so many episodes for us.
If you didn’t like it then that’s you, i wanted it to keep going, it’s been good
@@OverRazeGamer I don't wanna offend you, but you're part of the problem. Imagine someone binging the show years later with no knowledge of the wider Walking Dead universe and they watch the ending be a cliffhanger. That's not just unsatisfying, that's complete and utter disrespect to the audience.
Over a decade of highs and lows (with more of the latter than the former) and the conclusion to the series is a desperate beg from the showrunners for us to consume the spin-offs. This video gave more than enough evidence as to why it definitely hasn't "been good" for the series so I'm not gonna repeat what's already been said.
So if you wanna keep consuming from the franchise with every desperate and failing attempt to recreate the magic of the original series during its prime, it's your time, spend it wisely.
i mean the fact they do that, clearly shows people still watch it. Most people didn't get the point of the ending to call it bad.
@@Immolator772 Doesn't matter. Things gotta end. If they wanna have their spin-offs then fine but don't have the ending of the main show be a cheap tease for one of them.
@@nathanieldiaz5254 you literally criticise episodes that haven't even aired, i'm pretty sure everyone will scream like girls when Rick's episodes will air. Rick is my fav character but to me the show died with Saviors arc, then the whisperers revived it. Not to mention FTWD is full with great stuff that keep it fresh. Obviously the show will end with those episodes and FTWD. And those episodes will probably be short anyway, so idk why people complain so much. It's not like GOT where everyone stopped talking about it.
I checked out once they made it to the Prison. It just felt like to me, that in that world, there was never going to be a satisfying ending. It was just endure in that new one and I said “peace out”.
Go watch stranger things
@@jorgeachievementhunter2240 I did. Wasn’t a huge fan of the last season.
Really? Season 3 is the best imo. What you said is kind of the point on TWD, a never ending apocalypse where there is no cure, so I think it's pretty valid to feel that way.
Read the books they leave the prison after the first compendium paced way faster
@@jorgeachievementhunter2240 stranger things goes downhill after Season 1 in my opinion
I loved the first few seasons, but after season 8, it was over for me. The show gradually got worse, and all the characters I had liked before either became boring and uninteresting or died. I haven't watched a single episode since then, and I don't regret it. I didn't even know the show had ended last November. I generally love anything related to zombies, but this show lost its way after a few seasons. It's a shame.
yeah, its a shame twd had so many fake fans over the years
@@iseeathousand If you're implying what I think you're implying..give them a break man. I'm on the same page as them, but despite that-I still consider this one of my favourite shows. It's just frankly complicated due to it's heinously-disappointing flaws in the leading aftermath of it that are glaringly obvious to me and should be to most of everyone else that watched it. And it is with the example of how much it has lost its original viewership.
Besides season 9 and a few other gems here & there where it was much more respectful and authentic to its roots, it's ultimately heartbreaking to see where it has gone and it has lost what so many appreciated about the show in the first place. If that still screams ‘fake fan’ to you, I'm not sure what else to say. If we really were, it wouldn't be so saddening.
I never even got to Negan lol. I think the last episode I saw was when Tyrese died.
The comic book never made this mistake. It ended when it needed to. It's my favorite ongoing series ever.
It's tough because the sunk cost fallacy is something that will always take hold over me, the only times I've left after starting a show is if I had no interest in the early episodes, but TWD had 6 seasons I loved so I kept going. Season 7 isn't quite as bad as I think people make it out to be, 8 is a strange beast where I hate the first half but like the second. Season 9 is incredible imo, and one of my favorites. Ten has a ton of highs but some shocking lows (you covered them excellently in the covid episode slate... but I will defend "One More" to my dying breath, I absolutely adore that episode).
Season 11 is actually (for me), the worst season. It's meandering and dull (more so than any previous entry), it lacks urgency until it's last third, and eventually becomes an advertisement for other TV series where you want to see the actual end to this story (Rick and Michonne were my two favorites, so having to tune into another show to watch their story and have it *NOT* end after 177 episodes of the main series is so aggravating). I think the issue with TWD (for me at least) is there are great episodes even in the worst seasons that kept me invested overall. They've got me in a choke hold and I can't leave.
I know you mentioned it but if you want a show that has way more lows than highs, "Fear the walking dead" had a solid three season run at the start with it's third season being one of the best across these two shows, and came back in it's fourth season with Morgan crossed over and just became TWD 2.0, everything that was unique about it instantly vanished. That (for me), is my ultimate 'sunk cost fallacy' TV series. I've seen all 101 episodes now, and I really shouldn't have. I finally abandoned it but with the announcement of the last season... I'll be there again. Great video :)
The Comics Books and the Telltale Games series knew when it was time to let their stories end.
The Day Supernatural Died.
The issue was AMC, they wanted to flood each season with so many episodes of filler. I think out of any season looking back, Season 2 had the right idea.. just that it was sooo many episodes. If we only got 10 episodes for season 2, it would of worked.. The start of season 3, REALLY GOOD.. Then it slowed with filler and AMC to scared to be brutal outside of violence against zombies... It's a show with amazing scenes and amazing acting, in a pool of filler.
yeah - you could miss an entire season of TWD and really not miss anything
I really think they made a major mistake firing Frank Darabont. He understood and cared for the material and really knew how to tell the story. The zombies were terrifying and despite only being 7 episodes the characters were dynamic and well written.
The show would be much shorter and much, much well written
My wife and I just started rewatching them last month. Stopped watching before the final season, so Ill come back to this after we catch up!
It died with Negan when Rick cuted his throat. Tbo, Jeffrey carried the show after season 6.
I think ending the main show with Season 8’s Wrath, which already felt like an actual ending, makes the Daryl spin-off more logical, and would have a better story that could start with finding Leah and the Reapers.
You should review _Kingdom_ which is only 2 seasons of 6 episodes each plus a special. Arguably the best zombie series out yet.
I think for me it was that, for years, TWD was in many ways a “road trip” story. It was the characters going from place to place, finding new settlements and having to migrate. But once they settled in Alexandria that aspect of the show was no longer there. It turned into this Game of Thrones style dance between different communities and factions and it just felt off. I still think “Last day on earth” is the best “post Alexandria” episode and it’s because it felt like the old TWD where the safeguards they put up came crashing down and once again became a desperate plea for survival.
The show ended for me once i realized the writers were making the characters do stupid things to further the plot, instead of making them do what we all assume is the right thing only to end poorly. And when Negan showed up.
I started feeling that near the beginning of the prison arc. I mean they already knew about the gut smear tactic, and noise to draw them, but when they figured out how to Michonne them, and then didn’t do that for the rest of the show, I knew it was ‘just a show’
Yeah no you were right the first time around about negan, they didn’t do his redemption arc Justice which only soured an already rotting show
For me seasons 9-11 were the worst by far. They were a real chore to watch. I fell victim to the sunk cost fallacy because after 8 seasons I wanted some closure. How does this end?! And the thing is, seasons 9-11 had some pretty good concepts and characters and situations, etc, but you knew they were just relentlessly dragging it out. And to me THATS what killed TWD.
I stopped watching when otis died. I really feel like the soul of the show left after he died and it just wasn't the same after
LMAOOO
Stopped watching when Rick went into a coma. The previous minutes were great but this was definetly the most boring arc.
Really enjoyed this. Like most, I gave up on the show and don't plan to go back. But you persuaded me to see individual episodes.
For me the show died when they started the search for Sofia.
It was so boring.
Then I kept watching for a few seasons (don't ask why...) & finally dropped it.
This show was a wasted potential
3:37 is the answer to why I stopped watching. Everything dragged on for so long. The first seasons was fun because it felt like a classic "of the dead" style move every week. That quickly changed. I watched till the end of the Saviors arc. I tried the season able, but it so band. It felt like the worst problems with all the other seasons rolled into one season. Its sad, cause I remember the hype with it started. We would all meet up at my place (My wife and I were the only people in the group with kids at the time, so it was here every week). We would drink and laugh and get high and enjoy the show. Maybe part of me is nostalgic for that time in my life in general? I don't know. I miss the 2010-2012. 13/10, late 20s was my favorite level of life so far. We still had hope for the future... but I digress... Walking Dead took a nose drive in season two, but it seems the level out. Then the Negan arc just dragged on.
Thank you for your service. You deserve somekind of medal
"I watched all of The Walking Dead Medal of Sunken Cost"
I think there have been more men who walked on the moon that did what you did.
11 seasons of a narrative linear television show is insane, I’m sorry for anyone who watched through all of it. Of all the TV shows considered to be among the greatest of all time, can you imagine any of them going on for 11 seasons? What if Walt and Jesse had to defeat five different cartel bosses for another 6 years instead of Breaking Bad ending at season 5? It goes to show how quitting while you’re ahead is almost just as important as making a good show in the first place.
Supernatural had 15 seasons lol
“Quitting while you’re ahead” doesn’t apply when you’re adapting a comic series
Here we go again boys and girls!
Enjoy the ride.
Nah the covid episode “one more” was actually such a great episode with Gabe and Aaron
Thank you for your sacrifice, Elk. You sunk the cost so I could swim. Bravo.
I loved the show
@@handsomeman9433 it’s bad now
Man i used to love this show. The best seasons were the first 2 arguably 3. What made it so good was the actual sense of fearing the zombie apocalypse. It was the survival element but in its most genuine and grounded form. Totally turned the series into a far fetched, corney action drama shelfing the zombie apocalypse. Remember the CDC episode? How that part of the series gave us all goose bumps? Fast foward a few seasons and we get tiger king, unlimited ammunition, 1000 rounds fired in an action sequence and everyone on both sides still alive. This show used to make me emotional, then it just honestly went to shit.
I like to throw in liking season 4 as well because I liked watching what happened after losing the prison. The fallout of their complacency. Even with a bit of season 5, I missed that desperation of them hitting rock bottom. After that it turns way too soapy for me.
ah yes totally felt like survival, having a functional tank in the apocalypse.
@@BlueePluto nah, they had lots of filler episodes in the second half of Season 4, especially that Daryl and Beth episode! But besides that, it was fine.
I watched premier night season 1 episode 1 on accident thinking it was just another free movie I was graciously able to watch after getting satellite television. I can still remember the feeling of being like “holy **** this is a show?” After watching the ending where they showed off next weeks episode. I was 11 at the time. Never missed a Sunday episode ever in my life. I can’t agree more with what you said about just letting it go. The spin-offs are terrible and trust me I tried giving them multiple chances. The only one I’m halfway looking forward to is dead city just because I like seeing zombies in populated grid like streets and buildings. If they don’t advertise it heavily I’m not gonna go out of my way to record or check when it comes out. Could care less now that the main show is done
The show honestly lost me after the death of the governor. Up to that point, there was still some realism and DRAMA to the story line. The biggest mistake was the firing of Frank Darabont. Then gimple and Kang absolutely ruined the show. It turned from drama based and focused to some ridiculous fake dress up cheesy storyline of tigers and dead skin masks peppered in with garbage people. Sadly, fear the walking dead took the same path. Started out absolutely awesome…Los Angeles and a church, neighborhoods on lockdown with interesting characters that were relatable…then next thing you know there’s hillbilly truckers and a woman with a camcorder who can’t stop asking “what’s youurrre storeryyyy”.
Two shows that i discontinued:
1. The Walking Dead (After Season-5)
2. Westworld (After season-2)
Haha I literally started watching the series again, the other day. But now I can stop! You did it for me
This fella has the time to watch over 120 hours of The Walking Dead within a few months? Good gosh.
My friends and I were devout viewers every week, for years, and we collectively decided that once Rick and the bridge and the explosion and all that jazz happened - there was still time to get off the ride. I had been pretty jaded the last few seasons anyway as there is only so much pointless blind-firing of guns into derelict vehicles that I can get excited about.
Gimmie the first three seasons, and that might even be a little generous.
Love these videos
Beautiful review. Thank you!
‘Here’s Negan’ and ‘On the Inside’ are two of the best episodes of this series. I’d highly recommend them. There was also an element in Acheron Pt. 2 where Maggie is telling that story about the people she and baby Hershel came across when she was on her own. After she killed a couple of men in that house, she heard noises in the attic and found several heavily pregnant women with limbs amputated, lips sewn shut, and holes in their throats so they could breathe without being able to scream (I guess). One of them had died and turned, with the unborn child still inside her, trying to get out. That shit reminded me of Bone Tomahawk, and it was seriously messed up. But I also think TWD could’ve gone down darker paths with episodes exploring the things characters came across.
Also, there were what could be considered variant walkers sprinkled throughout the series. Yes, the vast majority were in the first season, but from what we know about them now, Shane was probably a variant (because of how quickly he turned and how fast he came at Rick), there was a walker trying to get inside Woodbury by trying to pull apart their barrier wall, and there were several others I can’t specifically recall at the moment.
But you’re right about the show, as a whole. There were a few good early seasons, but it seemed like the Governor/Whisperer/Savior episodes were dragged out far too long, and there were so many filler episodes in between. So many people left after Glenn died, but when they killed off Carl, then Rick, and eventually Michonne, left the show, it felt like there wasn’t much of a reason to keep watching. I did, but only because I’d basically invested an entire decade of my life in it already. Same with Game of Thrones. 😕
They all went
separated ways and died. Giving the franchise its final goodbye.
I totally agree with you on this video, but I have to say that I think the ending of "The ones who live" is what we all wanted for The Walking Dead, and I think I'll leave it there. While I'll give the spin off a shot, I won't go too deep. I'll stick to established characters like Maggie, Negan, and Daryl.
That’s so true. The walking dead had an insane resurrection during the whisperers story line. That cliff hanger had me so hyped up and I was counting down the days. Just to get the most boring episodes imaginable. But the negan episode is one of the best in the entire series
On a positive note, the Whisperer arc is my second favorite in the comics (first being the hunters and I felt terminus lacked the tension of that) but I gotta say, the show really went A+ adapting and enhancing from Kirkmans original vision.
Thank you for your service
Thank you for your service.
exactly what i said about house of the dragon-fool me once, shame on you. fool me twice…i can’t be fooled again. or something.
I just realized the irony of having a repeating calendar event I've never been able to figure out how to stop called, "Watch walking dead". It's there, every Sunday at 8 PM, my very own reanimated reminder. I dropped off after Beth and Noah died. I never even made it to Negan.
Good video! I been watching the walking dead since I was 11 years old (I’m 20 now) and I loved it from the beginning but now I hate to say it’s not even my top 5 favorite shows.
I used to really love TWD but by Season 4 it was already starting to come off the rails; it really only held together due to the power of the cast and residual love from the earlier season. After Darabont left it wasn't really ABOUT anything anymore, it was obviously just a cash machine for AMC. I also blame the show for the untimely end of the comic series as well. Kirkman got super rich off of TWD but it also brought him endless headaches, legal trouble, etc. I think the writing quality in the book dipped (although never to the extent that the show fell in it's own quality) and the general 'spark' Kirkman had for it eventually died.
The crushing weight of flies feeding on dead flesh, disease and chronic depression is another angle the series can take.
Thank you. Your sacrifice is deeply appreciated. Hahaha
I watched until end of season 9, barely hanging. I reject the idea of watching the final seasons.
I just started bingeing - had never seen a single episode before - and dug it at first but only got to about 3/4 of the way through S3. It already wasn't engaging, I didn't care what happened to the Governor, and it was obvious each season was just going to repeat the formula of S2 and 3.
You weren't wrong about Negan, he was awfully one dimensional as a villain. When Angela Kang took over as show runner, he and a bunch of the other characters became much more fleshed out.
I am a total sucker for the "sunk cost fallacy"! I've been calling it being a "completionist."
I agree with many of your points. But still this show is great overall and fun to watch. Also, I would love to invest my time to watch my favorite character Rick Grimes have a closure.
Dude imagine if the walkers slowly got back brain function earlier on and became smarter. The show would’ve been crazy
I kept up to date with the show til the very end and then went back to season 1, it kept my interests until I got to season 9. I don't think I'm easily pleased or anything, but I honestly think they did a good job up until then; never amazing like those first few seasons, however I feel they kept the characters engaging enough and Rick just never stopped being a great character, in my opinion!
Hoping to wait and see you making a video on Supernatural and Grey's Anatomy.
Walkers holding rocks isn’t new. It happened in the first episodes of the series
I'm on season 11 and I'm slowly getting through it. Can't believe I'd have that attitude towards this show.
Same here, I'm almost done actually on Episode 19.tbh I actually enjoyed Season 9 and 10 alot, shit "The Calrm before" was a masterpiece in my opinion with that ending shattering what was left of their good will with the heads on pikes and sending the communities freaking out. The Commonwealth was honestly the hardest to get through for me. I mean I knew they were evil but eh. It was kinda a slog to get through to where it gets good. But now it seems to have picked up I am definitely enjoying it. I also feel giving Negan another person to care about was kinda tacked on. The character isn't bad but she definitely isn't interesting.
Your whole “sunk cost fallacy” point falls apart when people just watch the show because they like it lol
I watched 5 seasons of this with enjoyment for the most part, but I cant lie that the show definitely isnt for everyone
The problem is when you drag something out for the sake of milking the cash cow the authenticity dies alongside the genuine passion the directors had for their project. People lose interest when something seems lackluster or drags on for too long, unfortunately.
The problem with the variants is they were there in season one.
Exactly he doesn’t get the fact that they where in the first season so he’s wrong about that one
It died on the first episode... I really really really never understood the appeal. There's a ton of zombie movies and they themselves become redundant. I cannot imagine what The Walking Dead could have done to make a case that it wouldn't be redundant. And yet again, like Lost, I was right.
Thank you for apologizing to Negan. I always loved him.
I think it started to die after season 5. Jesusss that was my favorite season murder jacket rick in his peak lol.
2 main things that saved Negan and made him my favorite character in the last 3 seasons is this: He has charisma and humor.
I'm not asking for the show to have been a sitcom, but Negan was the only character who showed any emotions other than passive aggressiveness and regular aggressiveness. He didn't talk in a low, mumbly grumbly tone that I needed subtitles for. He acted like a normal human being, which to me was a gigantic fresh of breath air compared to how the other characters were written post-Rick. While I did skip over season 9 after Rick left, as I literally did not care for the Whisperers arc, I did stick around for seasons 10 and 11 just for the chance to see Negan redeem himself to the rest of the cast. He already redeemed himself in my eyes and I wanted that pay off to see him get the respect he finally deserves. He's not the big bad guy anymore. He's part of Rick's group.
Great series analysis!!! I'm totally with you on the concept of sunk cost phallacy, I left TWD many years ago and I usually watch only the first season of a show if it's highly recommended, not to mention I only give series three episodes to grab me... And don't get me started on books... Thanx!!!
I personally think deviating from the comics is what really killed the show tbh.
Keeping carol over andrea, killing carl and rick.
Not giving darrell a character arc that follows the story without fucking it up.
If the show followed flawlessly the comics with some fillers as well.. fillers. Show would of done better on the post saviors arc.
Thank you for your time sacrifice. I stopped watching the show after 1.5 seasons because it was clear to me it wasn't going anywhere.
A few days ago, I randomly looked it up to see if it ended and if so, how it ends. I'm glad that I bailed early since the show didn't end and as far as I know didn't even give a clear explanation on the virus.
By the way, would you by any chance do any coverage about The Blacklist? The final season will start soon. Like with the Walking Dead, I was very into it but then stopped when it got repetitive. I was only interested in Red's background story and his monologues. After a season or two, I even began skipping the 'episode of the week' story to cut to his parts. But even that eventually got old.
Now I am waiting for it to end so I can look up how it ended and what was Red's story.
Cheers and than you for the amazing content and analysis. You are very good at what you do and it is very much noticed and appreciated. :)
in fairness, the whole point is that there's no explanation - that's in the source material itself.
Not reading allat
I disagree with 90% of what you said. Best show ever