The Walking Dead Universe is Falling Apart
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- The Walking Dead Universe is already falling apart. With some of the major shakeups happening at AMC Network, the ending of FearTWD and manuvering the entire release schedule, there is clearly a lot going on. Howveer, the BIGGEST issue is the creative decision to continue one with the same old tired trends that have been plaguing this series for over a decade. Let's discuss.
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Aaron's first appearance and introduction to Alexandria I feel is the turning point of the entire show.
That's a fair point.
That was major turning point of whole show .
Idk negan kinda carried the show in a good way too
That was a good direction. Needed to get to ALEXANDRIA, right?...great choice to pick Ross as Aaron was a Nostalgic, Historic character of TWD. 👌
@@blacklungs6508 I disagree, 7 and 8 are my least favorite seasons
>find safezone
>Lose safezone to an easily preventable mistake
>repeat
peak television
Lol
> bad guy comes
> bad guy is bad
> bad guy is defeated by good guys
> repeat
For extra flavor
Why they couldn't have gone back to the prison and just fixed the fence is beyond me lol. But that wouldn't make for good tv.
@@RossLemon tbf the walls of alexandria where better than the fences.
except that's fundamentally not the problem, and in fact the show only started going downhill when this formula stopped
I miss 2010 when this show first came out and playing Black Ops and Halo Reach 😢
Right?!?! Those were the days.
Especially since black ops had zombies as well
@@bradbred3800 and we’d gotten one of the best zombie games of all time a few months prior… what a time
💯🔥
Dam bro you hurt my soul with this one, If only I realized I was in the good ol’ days at that time I would of cherished every second.
The Walking Dead universe actually suffered because of how much they expanded. Not in terms of spin offs, but in terms of characters. It got to a point of having way too many point of view characters that we follow around for a while and things start to get messy as they run out material for certain characters and just have them in the background after awhile. Someone else mentioned the shows turning point was when Aaron showed up and he's right because it was the introduction phrase to a new era of dozens of characters and communities. It diluted things.
I think part of the appeal of the new spin-offs is that they are no longer focused on a massive community of characters all taking up screen time on one show and instead shifting towards one or two characters point of view. Rick and Michonne should ideally get a proper ending without distractions of 20 other characters taking up screen time. Maybe I'm overly optimistic but I feel like all the shows are going to intertwine and come to a conclusion together. The CRM storyline is what is going to tie them all together. With the exceptions of Tales, because that show is just random experimental episodes with no general direction. Seemingly, anyways.
While I agree with you, and I want the exact same thing, I'm just saying that everything coming out seems to indicate that there isn't much connective tissue between these shows. I hope I'm wrong because I want that grand finale that makes all these stories feel worth it.
@@KRWNetwork I'm speculating and theorizing but the connection between the series so far from what I have observed from TWD, FEAR, and World Beyond is the CRM. They first appeared in FEAR and while the story has seemingly moved past it, I think they are going to show up again in the final season. They kind of need to go that route or the show was kind of pointless. lol The material is already there for them to work with because Althea left the group to reunite with Isabel from the CRM. Even if that doesn't happen, there is also a theory that Alicia is immune to the walkers, which could tie her story into the CRM's potentially since they are doing experiments on walkers and humans.
World beyond obviously ties in with the CRM through Jadis which gives small hints about Rick and the topics of A and B selections the CRM uses. Plus it was the first introduction of new strain of walkers.
Which leads us to TWD's final season when they start slowing implementing new types of walkers into the show. These new zombies were likely created in the CRM lab experiments and then released into the "wild" to cause havoc. Plus, the CRM was responsible for taking Rick and Heath. Heath vanishes but there was evidence of a struggle and quick exit once he was subdued. His glasses were broken in half and laying on the cement and then there was a tire trail that spun away in the dirt from the ditch.
The new spin offs are likely based around the CRM as well. Ricks show will be based around it, and Daryl is going to France which has something to do with the CRM and that video of doctor Jenner that was in France. I'm not sure about Negans show, but the CRM in Philadelphia and they'd have to travel through that area to get to NY, and the CRM is likely operating there as well.
@@panspermiapancakes Yeah, a return is likely, the CRM have been present in every season of Fear since S5, and usually only in the first few episodes of each season. The CRM had some involvement in every part until 7A, so them not being in 7B won't write a S8 appearance off. Althea was the big connection to them being on Fear and she's gone now, but I still feel like both might appear again, a lot of people still find the "This is Althea's final episode for Season 7" very cryptic.
Plus now we have P.A.D.R.E; PADRE means father in Spanish so that alone makes it sound like a division for the CRM making an army of kids like in WB, PADRE takes kids when they're babies and raises them to become soldiers.
@@bggsz4 I see you're fairly observant with the universe and the Easter eggs as well. I could have added a few more things but my reply was looking very long winded. I have a feeling Al shows back up. The showrunners will often say things to give it a sense of "permanence" but it's to avoid certain spoilers. They were very insistent that Madison had died even though they didn't show it and now she's back.
I think the content creator of this channel had a valid point though with them possibly not connecting the universes because the FEAR cast was told it would be the final season and to wrap things up after they had already made like 4 or so episodes and they were also informed last minute that the season wouldn't be getting the full amount of episodes originally planned. This had to have made things extremely hectic on set and the writing may suffer from it yet again, disruption from AMC higher-ups. It's hard to say how much will be available and if they were able to bring Al's actress back. So, it's possible they might role with the storyline of Alicia being immune. Hard to say.
I'm hopeful, and while the CRM connection is somewhat subtle and could be missed, it's probably the strongest connection of the shows within the universe. The only storyline that can tie it all together and give us a conclusion. If nothing else, Morgan could serve as the connection with FEAR and the rest of the universe, but that might be somewhat disappointing if he's the only true connection because his appearance on FEAR felt extremely forced when he first showed up.
@@panspermiapancakes It really appears that AMC are ending Fear to cut ties with anything related to Kirkman, Darabont or any of those people that are suing them recently, all the upcoming spin-offs for example have nothing to do with them, so maybe AMC is following suit with Fear, ending the show, while continuing the characters' stories in another show that's strictly theirs and not tied to another studio that might want monetary compensation down the road.
As for Fear ending, I think AMC and the Fear showrunners knew they'd be ending it with S8 for a while: Madison's return was already planned into the plot of S7 and S8 for a year before S7, also when they announced it, they said she's returning for seasons 7 and 8 (just 7 and 8, no mention of following seasons). Next, S8 was first reported as the final season almost a year ago from multiple sources, before or around the time 7B started filming (everyone just dismissed it because it wasn't AMC that said it directly, one site even mentioned the season would be shorter than usual). Finally, S7 pacing is extremely rushed, S4-S6 had good pacing overall no matter what people thought of the story, things started feeling a little rushed in 6B near the finale, then S7, especially 7B starts and ends at least four different storylines in a short period, three of which S6 set up (villain Strand, Doomsday Cult, leader Alicia, Alicia's infection, villain Wes, introducing PADRE), so I feel like they planned a bunch of stuff for the following seasons after S6, but AMC chose to end the series with S8, meaning the plot had to rush through what had been established to make room for S8 being just about PADRE. S7 just feels too broken and it feels unlikely for it to have been like that because of other reasons and not because of plans to end the show with the following season after going too big with the previous season. Same thing happened with TWD 11A, the reapers storyline was already planned, probably setting up a 12th season for the rest, but they had to rush through it because it was the final season and they had to make room for the Commonwealth storyline.
So they might've told the rest of the Fear actors they're ending with S8 recently (unless Austin is faking not knowing with his post to maybe keep S8 things secret like who survives), but I feel like the crew already knew S8 would be the end in advance and not after finishing 8A, or even 7B for that matter.
As a microbiologist, my ears perked when Jenner mentioned that the French were close to a breakthrough - it was a reference to the discovery of HIV. Before the discovery of HIV, scientists were on the scrabble to figure out the etiology of GRID (later AIDS). Luc Montagnier, French virologist, along with his team of French scientists were deemed the first to isolate HIV.
Oh, wow. I didn't know that. Thanks for the info!
The Jenner episode was the best, they should of incorporated that more into the show
As francophone, and seeing that the only character with a french name was Ed Peltier ,a wife baterer ,in knew from the beginning that the french were responsible for this plague. 😏
Is this a reference? I can't find anything to confirm that
@@claudeturgeon385 Quel est le rapport entre un personnage qui bat sa femme et l'origine du virus ?
I have a horrible feeling that the show with daryl and dead city is going to to get cancelled after one season. That’s happening with almost every show coming out now especially when it’s within the same universe of a really popular show that (gossip girl is an example even though a lot of other things lead into it) A lot of older fans complain about how it’s nothing like the original shows and stop watching. I hope this doesn’t happen.
also i better see a scene where michonne and rick reunite with their kids
It is hard to say if that isn't the operating strategy for these shows. Idk if they are just rushing these spinoffs to introduce new focal point characters or if they are going to actually continue.
i think it’ll do fine. look at breaking bad and better call saul
Never!! AMC fully owns TDW universe, so this universe is what's been paying for every other show since the start.
How much different can it be tho? It's still a world of incredibly forgetful people living with dead people and cartoon evil villains.
The problem is that they're trying to create their own Marvel-esque universe around a television show that has been declining in popularity for years. There's no solid foundation for them to build off of.
If you're talkin about a show that declined because the main character left that's completely normal. In addition what's GREAT IS GREAY. Netflix puts out tons of crap and there's really nothing as SOLID as Walking Dead, just look how the new Game of Thrones -isn't as good as the original BUT IT'S STILL BETTER THAN MOST OTHER TV SHOWS. The point is that you could create a million new TV shows but nothing is going to be TIMELESS as THIS series, great example is Seinfeld which still has some of the highest ratings to this day!! Seinfeld ratings dramatically dipped but what's wrong with trying to spin off of a show that's still amazing to this day? The new stuff definitely isn't good. The point is it's definitely something to create a spin-off of, to expand, it will always be that way because it was always amazing and timeless it's one of the best binge TV shows of all time. I would put it next to Game of Thrones. Declining is a normal problem for all television shows. Their obstacle is simply creating a new TV show that's just as deep and watchable, and that is always the problem. If they can pull this off then they will be one of the only ones
@@MyspiritualrhythmNot just because Andrew Lincoln left but the show is in decline since season 5 or 6,that's just how I feel,idk about the official views and stuff,I think most people think the same
What we need is another series in TWD universe about the start of the outbreak in a completely different setting.
Agreed.
Yea, i always wondered about what the US navy did near the end, their ships can be out at sea for months or even years without refueling, they just need food. Realistically, there should be active fleet even a few months after the apocalypse made up of nuclear subs, aircraft carriers, destroyers and cruisers, people randomly dying on these ships are rare, and I'm sure it would be easy to isolate outbreaks, and they have the firepower to raid coastal towns or cities for supplies. Would make for an interesting faction of ex US Navy
Well, there was that FearTWD spin-off short where they showed the submarine, but I get you.
it will only work with the OG showrunner, soon as you create anything based off what 'the fans' want rather than creatively making your own vision. it goes wrong. like keeping negan alive was just to keep negan fans happy.
He should have just been shot in the head mid speech on a random one my maggie. This would also reflect how he ruthlessly killed Glenn.
Clementine
What impressed me was the kids in World Beyond practically travelled as many miles as Morgan did from Georgia to Texas.
LOL so dumb.
is it bad to say that watching it the past through years has seemed more like a chore than an escape from life
Youre 100% correct. Such a shame to go out the way it did.
I disagree. Everytime I watch it I feel home. Brings back memories. Even tho the show is crazy violent lol
@@allieboy181 even season 11
@@promountain6113 I do agree some what. But that’s because of the filler arc with the reapers in the beginning. A whole goddamn 7 episodes of it lol. I just wanted them to get to the common wealth already
i 100 percent felt that way watching s7-s8. as i was the only one in my family still watching it lol.
The over dramatic scene of Glenn's death put a bad taste in the non comic book readers mind and mouth because most didn't know how Glen dies. Also Glen knew his time would come because when he and the Alexandrians Heath went to that Negan outpost and started killing people in their sleep Glen knew karma would pay a visit soon or a later.
Not sure Glenn knew, but it was a heavy foreshadowing moment.
We knew he could be the one to die so we were preparing for that but when they killed abraham having us think glenn was safe, and then turning around and killing him 5 mins later is what left the bad taste. especially since we thought glenn was possibly dead for a few episodes in a previous season.
Two of the spin-offs already raise way more eyebrows in bad ways than they do good
A negan and maggie duo expedition seemingly without their children makes for a hell of a hole to write out of
And daryl leaving jude/ rj given everything that goes on in the series is even harder to get behind
The tragic thing is they’ll still get me because it’s daryl
They have seemed to confirm that Maggie and Negan are going to look for Hershel, which is a good thing.
Seems like Daryl gets kidnapped, for reasons unknown. Although, the more we learn about it, the less sense it makes. Doesn't sound like the CRM did it.
They got me too. Hahaha I'm here till the end.
@@KRWNetwork even then it’s just those two specific characters spending any prolonged period of time together seems odd. Ik the last season left their relationship in a less volatile place but I thought maggies final speech to negan spoke more to why something like this could never happen
What’s atleast fun is the community being so speculative/active again helps possibly put things into place
I say all this stuff though genuinely hope that all these series end up being great because I love twd
Thanks for making a great video btw I hope you find traction
@@RobotFrosstedFLAkesyeah but negan is also pretty much in debt to her. I agree tho, they should have at least added
Elijah to the show. Seeing how loyal he is to Maggie and he’s a bad ass fighter. And the fact that we don’t really know shit about him. This would have been a cool way to see more of him!
We want to see the main characters TOGETHER looking for a bigger purpose than themselves - not separate doing random things. It looks like AMC are trying to milk TWD as they have for years
Connecting the three spin-offs and the final season of Fear to the CRM is the best way to have all these shows connect. They made 20 episodes of the world Beyond simply to introduce us to the CRM. Every show coming out has the story based on someone being taken/kidnapped. Connect everything to the CRM and the fight to get Rick back and they could really making awesome story. All the pieces are there they just have to connect the dots
Agreed
That's interesting that you mention season 6 episode 9 being the ending of the first phase of the story, because that's exactly where I stop watching when I re watch the show. I've seen up to about halfway through season 10 before I finally gave up on it, there were too many new characters, too many communities, and the majority of my favorite characters were dead or just left the show. To me, midway through season 6 when they take back Alexandria from the zombies is a pretty satisfying ending and it even almost gives you a happy ending with showing you at the very end that Carl is alive. I love the walking dead, but it is one of those shows that in my opinion went on for far too long and at this point really does just feel like a cash grab with all these spin offs in the works
Yeah, I agree about that episode being a good breaking off point. That's kind of why I made the argument that it is a good end point for a theoretical "phase" of the story. They definitely switched gears after that.
Originally robert kirkmans plan was actually to end the show when the group reached Alexandria actually
Yeah, that would have been an interesting ending, but I'm glad that he pushed forward.
All I’m asking for is that Daryl, Rick, and Michonne come out of their shoes alive and well.
Those are some dangerous shoes.
@@KRWNetwork lmaooo I barely realized I misspelled “show”
@@KRWNetwork
Fear the walking shoes
it’s kinda strange how now they’re splitting up the series now. I mean all the actors are still apart of the franchise wouldnt it just make sense to continue the walking dead for another few seasons
It is a cutting costs/streaming rights issue.
Honestly I agree but for the longest time I’ve always wanted to know how the virus came to be or how did it start that’s the one thing I am excited for the Daryl series.
Great vid pal💪 first time coming across your channel and I was very impressed! I think TWD has suffered setbacks before, and the fundamental setback was losing Rick in season 9. At that point it almost felt like I was watching a spin off, of the future after he was gone. I do believe though all spin offs will have 1 season, and will be intertwined for a final season called; ‘We Are The Walking Dead’.
That would be really cool. I would love that.
I miss the first four seasons to be honest. It just seems to me all the good characters/actors were killed off and all the new characters/actors they brought in around seasons 7-12 were junk in my opinion.
You think? I liked a few of them, and the ones introduced in 4 and 5 (Aaron, Rosita, and Gabriel) are all so awesome.
Finally someone I can agree with,season 1-4 are also my favorites,I quit twd around season 5 or 6 and haven't been in touch with anything related to it in years but what I pick up randomly on internet from time to time it is safe to say the seasons 5/6 to whatever season was the final sucked
My friend told me that in all these shows, literally almost all characters that he actually cared about, were killed off, and that's the entire cast of one of these shows. That is so dumb, I'm flabberghasted people are watching anyway. My friend stopped, and I sure would have.
After what 10-12 years in the apocalypse it's amazing there is still usable fuel for anything let alone helicopters. How is Daryl getting to France? You can't just call Delta and book a flight.
There are multiple groups who have been able to make fuel.
Just finished TWD not know this was the finale. Very sad to this go. Hope this get resolve somehow. I would to see the other story get an ending.
Killing off Carl, Rosita, Tara and Andrea was a huge mistake! They should've kept Morgan on The WD end killed Negan the first chance they got!😒
I think Negan got better, honestly. Wasn't expecting that.
rosita was killed at the very end and tara barely did anything after the governors death. Carl and Andrea were definitely mistakes though.
Rosita at least made it to the very end of the series finale before dying. It's not like losing Rick. You didn't have to suffer through the final three seasons without her. Tara was a mostly unnecessary character. After she helped Glenn find Maggie, she never really did anything too substantial, she was just...there. Her biggest story line was Oceanside, which is considered by many to be the worst episode of the entire series. I would've killed her off on the slaughterhouse line in Terminus, right next to Robin Lord Taylor's character. Her death would've been just important enough to provide shock value with the audience, without seriously impacting the story line with Rick's group. Probably would've made her way more popular with fans, too.
This universe is so cool and unique and it's sad to see they didn't want to go all out and do a huge Avengers team up movie thing. There are enough great characters over all 4 shows that would make that type of thing fucking awesome but they just haven't got there. It's like the franchise is always in a weird limbo where the universe can't move forward, most likely due to the cancelled films. It's just new stories that stand alone, some of which aren't at the same time, which I love but there should be way more connections by now. I don't want to wait 10 more years to see it. They should also use Tales to set up what comes after. It's weird. It's probably more AMC's fault than Gimple (or incompetence in terms of Fear's crew to tell meaningful stories) and it's sad. I still love this franchise though, and I loved the series finale and how they went about setting up what's next. Unlike a lot of people I also really liked World Beyond and Tales and I want to see how they're gonna even try to tie these stories together. I've invested too much time to not see where they go with it. Fear season 4 to 7 has definitely made me rethink that many times though 😂.
I watched everything the series have to offer and I still think the telltale game did a much better story overall with characters I care more about. Would be great to have a live action of the game and tie that into the main show.
The Sons of Anarchy ran the guns to the cartels that helped spread Walter's Blue Sky nationwide. Blue Sky was so powerful that prolonged use created a disease that lead to the apocalypse, then Rick wakes up in the hospial and here we are. Pay attention to the small details in all three franchises and this theory could add up.
Love it.
Gloria Nick's girlfriend was a junkie and was Patient Zero of the apocalypse. So the overdose could have been from Walts meth
Delaying Rick’s show is very ill advised. I still have conversations with casuals who stopped watching years ago who think Rick died because they saw advertisements for “Rick’s final episodes”. The normies haven’t even seen his “final” episode in season 9.
Now they’re delaying his spinoff til next year after screwing up his supposed film trilogy! Pure incompetence from that hack Gimple!
I don't think they'd put the spinoffs as a season 12 due to one series in particular: Fear the Walking Dead. Only because of the fact that the Clark Family was only placed for the Fear Series. You could argue that Morgan and Dwight are in the show, but that's a meh thing. They could make season 12 be with Dead City, Daryl Dixon, and Rick and Michonne, but leave Fear be its own thing, but that's just an opinion thing.
That's kind of what I meant. I wasn't including Fear because that has been its own thing for so long.
@@KRWNetwork Ah ok, I didn't realize you implied that, my bad.
TWD is another example of a studio milking an IP for as long as possible. This show could’ve been the best ever made but now it’s only wasted potential.
I'd argue that is was one of the best shows ever made... despite the ups and downs.
@@KRWNetwork I can agree with that. At its peak (creatively and statistically) only a few shows can touch it. I think that’s what saddens me because of where it ended up going story wise. I’m still holdin’ hope for the spin-offs though.
It hasn’t milked anything until now. The comics end at the commonwealth
@@Shockkings0714 I disagree, they could’ve told the whole story in 5-7 seasons but they stretched it to 11 seasons and 6 spin offs.
Agreed. Based solely on the source material, they milked a lot of stuff. Season 7 and 8 especially.
The Walking Dead Universe I hope AMC gives us some very good content so that Rick and Michonne can reunite not only with the two of them but at one point with Judith and RJ somehow they're going to have to bring this family back together hopefully making this journey through these other spin offs will bring us back the original content and quality of the show back .
A cure feels like the most obvious direction they're going for. Because of this, I hope they don't do it. There shouldn't be a cure, there shouldn't' be any way to just hit an undo button for the apocalypse. I'd much rather see them do something we don't expect while somehow not disappointing everyone that's stuck to this universe for so long.
Whatever they do, I just want these upcoming spin offs to be good. Please dear god let them be good.
I don't understand why everyone thinks that a cure would fix the world. We have a vaccine for our current pandemic, and it hasn't stopped it from being a major problem. A cure storyline represents a hopeful tone, it wouldn't fix everything immediately. That story could still be an interesting and drawn out process.
@@KRWNetwork That is true but I feel like it would lower the stakes of having large communities. If you've got a massive amount of people living together and there is no cure then there's always a risk of just one person dying and causing an outbreak, resetting everything whereas if everyone is vaccinated then there's essentially no risk of something like that happening. The persuit of a cure does seem like a decent story and would be a nice hopeful way of ending the franchise possibly with a climactic finale. I just worry that they'll introduce a cure then drag it out for as long as possible until the series is completely miled dry. Like imagine a cure is found, all the living get vaccinated so they no longer turn when they die. Now all they have to do is wait for the walkers to degrade and rebuild society. That's it, decent hopeful ending. But continuing that with the way the world has been set up so far would make for a boring show and AMC wants to continue moving forward so a new walker variant is introduced and these variants don't degrade. So now the living have to deal with the remaining walkers in the world but getting bit means nothing to the vaccinated which makes the dead even less of a threat so they keep on making more spin offs with new vatiants that do new stuff just to spice things up. It sounds pretty cool at first but fast forward to 2035, the series is still going and we're 6 seasons into spin off where there's super powered flying zombie sharks and every one of the original characters are dead and no one even knows whats going on. I dunno, I just feel like the threat of infection is a core part of the series and if there is a cure, that should just be where it all ends. That's just my opinion though and I'm not a writer or any kind of expert in storytelling. I just want to see the franchise do well and not go off the rails by turning into a serious version of ZNation.
I don't think that would ever happen. Personally, I enjoy the idea of stretching out the cure storyline for a while (4-5 years). End it with our main characters being still important to that story and then you can spin-off into other directions. It doesn't have to be a zero sum game after the cure is found.
AMC and Netflix should have had a partnership years ago on making shows and streaming. Its insane that I only just got to watch Better Call Saul season 5 and I cant watch Interview with a Vampire at all since I refuse to get another streaming service that ultimately doesn't offer nearly enough as others.
This is what happens when a show is milked way to much
The thing about Walking Dead is the characters always get dumber and dumber and dumber and the situations more and more ridiculous, yet it takes itself as seriously as a heart attack.
90s FPS enemies and Stormtroopers get together once a year to make fun of the competency and tactics of the Commonwealth I hear
Bruh! Hahahahaha
The latest season of Fear is doing just that trying to find a cure for the bite, and they seem to have figured it out 🤦♂️ 😂
FearTWD is so silly.
@@KRWNetwork Robert kirkman said the show would never focus on science or the virus, I hope they focus on the virus or what caused it as it would be more interesting than a cure 😂
I do not think Robert Kidman fully speaks for AMC and their universe.
Michonne asked Rick to give her a hand so he did.
Lol
The bullet split scene killed it for me and Carl's death almost made me stop watching
The bullet split was really strange.
Let's face it the Golden Age of AMC has come and gone ,but oh my what a helluva ride it's been.
That's fair.
Just like the stock
amc firing Frank Darabont was a premonition of what was to come. Profits over quality
Some people travel some people like to stay in there hometown there whole life. After 10 years of show time I think Daryl in France is epic
Gonna have to come back to watch this later. I have 3 episodes left to finish TWD and havent heard of the spins off you mention. I'll have to find and watch them or a summary
They haven't come out yet. I'm going off of what we've seen and heard of the spin-offs.
@@KRWNetwork Oh I meant Fear the Walking Dead and The World Beyond. I've been watching the recaps of them since I posted the comment lol
The title to this video didnt age well....
I think it aged pretty gracefully. Considering the main point of the video is that... despite the quality, the overall purpose of the continuation is muddy and not necessary. The franchise isn't trying to connect. It isn't trying to tell a bigger story. That's the problem. Literally the entire point of the video...
After TOWL, I think it did. I'm gonna keep watching, but just to put something on the TV, not necessarily for entertainment
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Calling it -- Rick and Michonne spin-off gonna get cancelled before it even starts.
Nah, I don't think so. As I kind of suggested in the video, I suspect all these shows will be made. If AMC fails before they come out, someone else will release them. Or, if AMC fails shortly after they come out, someone else will probably release them as originals to that new platform.
I hope they will go the TWD WB route. Instead of a cure developing the fungus we saw in the ending episode, like a biologically engineered fungus that spreads on necrotic tissue and causes it to decay faster. Basically either wiping out of crippling most of the dead by making it airborne.
It really seems like it is going in that direction. I'd be okay with that.
"already falling apart" over a very short lived time of 13 years
Bahahahaha
I hope Rick, Michonne, Daryl, Carol, Maggie, Negan, and Morgan all end up meeting somehow and find their way back to Alexandria and The Commonwealth, I hated they killed off Rosita, and in such a sad way as her leaving her baby. I hope they have Eugene, Aaron, The King, and all the top show favorites. I want to see Rick, Michonne, and Daryl make it back to Judith and Rj, they all left them. I hope all the spin offs are not a big let down, I do want to see Morgan make it back, maybe even Dewight. I want Dewight to see Negan and how he’s changed.
It's been on a plummeting downcurve since the Whisperer War. Daryl's show is just discount Last of Us which is weird since LOU was inspired heavily by TWD in the first place.
What really killed the show is the fact that it became too profitable and got milked by greedy executives. Hell, AMC was shady all the way in Season 1 with firing Frank Darabont.
Yeah, they have always acted strangely when it comes to the profits of this series.
It sucks that they showed the climbing zombies only at the end and didn't elaborate on it at all
it when to shit two picoseconds after rick "died" on the bridge.
What if james patterson middle school meets the walking dead?
The problem is, there r to many shows to watch and ppl don't have time to watch them all. By time u get around to them they have already been canceled cuz ppl wasn't watching them
That's true. Some shows aren't for everyone.
@@KRWNetwork I enjoyed manifest but by the time I watched it they was already canceled but luckily they brought it back to atleast end it. Another show I was enjoying was Day break, or something like that, with the kids didn't turn to zombies just the adults. It was canceled after the first season and I was pretty bummed out. Many of the shows I have watched, including TWD, was already on their 4th or later season when I even found out about them
I think a lot of people experience this. The problem is that the new streaming model isn't built to have more than 2-3 seasons, unless it is a mega hit.
the show should've ended after season 5, this is fucking ridiculous, this is not the show I loved!😭
@TheGovernor2003 agreed.
Part 2 of the show discussion. They were shocked when they were cancelled then made spinoffs.well they got material to go up to 25 seasons without the comics. So now breaking things up into spinoffs. Cancels out the criticism of how the show will show Rick for 3 episodes then in episode 4/5 it will focus on Darryl but not show Rick for example. People complained for years about that. Now that problem is eliminated. Also for the performers themselves, they do not have a contractual agreement to be stuck on the same project an entire year at time. Now they have freedom to return to the series and do other projects
I think Gimple's comments about 25 seasons were a bit of a joke. With that being said, I agree that they pivoted and expanded their ideas due to the cancellation. My hope was that the show would evolve into something more unique or focused as time went on...even if it was just rebuilding the world (like the bridge arc in Season 9), but it keeps falling into its own patterns. The spin-offs, and the way they are discussing them, seem to suggest more of the same.
@@KRWNetwork all entertainment is falling apart anymore. After everything with DC that just happened. All the characters through the years getting revamped for woke identity politics. And this Rick storyline is ruined if it's only 6 episodes. But great channel here
The formula was doomed beyond telling a tight and relatively short story, thats why the comics ended. Like of course the survivors are gonna try to make safe zones and try to return to some form of normal life. Once you have food, shelter, and a means to defend yourself theres literally no reason to go out and take unnecessary risks
Rick and Michonne will be good cause the cast (Danai Gurira and Andrew Lincoln) are both just amazing
Agreed. It will probably be great.
Its hard to care about any of the characters and "Fear of the walking dead" makes you want to route for the zombies
Hahahahahahahaha
Diversity and Inclusion killed a show which was already on life support lol. It wasn't even tastefully done, it was so on the nose, just like most modern media. It's not there to serve or advance the story, it's there to bludgeon the audience with a message that's already been beat to death, which is fitting for a show called "The Walking Dead"
no, diversity and inclusion are not the problem, the show is just repetitive
I think Rick and Michonne spin off would be better than twd . In twd stakes was not that high, I mean it's always about fight between 2 groups and zombies but in this new spin off we can actually see the involvement of CRM in the cause of apocalypse and how Rick and Michonne can stop it . Because as we seen in ftwd season 8 sneek peak Madison was bitten but she didn't turned into walker and crm is doing experiments on her to probably find a vaccine . We can actually see lots of variant walker in that spin off. Amc is sitting on gold mine I hope they use it perfectly and they should also cast a big name as a actor to provide viewership in this spin off.
I see you everywhere when it comes to TWD content lol.
I've seen a lot of people pointing to the "bite" on Madison. But, it doesn't look like a bite. It looks like an infection from too many injections. Plus, the whole "OMG a cure/immune storyline" is kind of FearTWD's operating mentality for the last few years.
His name is Daddy's Home. Hahahahaha
@@OfficerFriendlyYT what can I say I am a big Rick Grimes fan.
@@KRWNetwork but that really looks like a teeth bite , I hope I am right. I really want to see a whole season 8 dedicated to the vaccine. If Rick grimes show up at the end of ftwd then it would be cherry on the top.
I wonder if the Commonwealth and the CRM if they're aware of each others existence?
They most likely are. I think a few things were setup in the main series to be paid off in the spin-offs.
The walking dead was at its best when it was about family. It went downhill when they started splitting them up.
I reckon all the series will eventually intertwine with one another and when all the series reach the same point, the walking dead season 12 will come out and that would finish the whole universe
That would be awesome, and I thought that was the goal when they announced all this. But, I have to admit that I don't think that will happen anymore.
This is where I fidn out that the show is not only still going, but it's a whole universe. The hell happened?
Just...so much. I'm not sure it is going to work.
They would've did fine going just as long as Law & Order SVU
Twd Universe is just a fancy name for Gimple Zombie Fan Fiction, cant write his own storys so he gonna use another IP to help him.
It hasn't been all bad.
“Too late? For what?! The republic to fall?! It already has and you just can’t see it!” The main show started to rapidly drop for me starting in season 9. Everyone says season 8 sucked, but it wasn’t THAT bad. It could’ve still had a really good comeback.
Season 8 was okay in retrospect. It just lingered way too long.
@@KRWNetwork I can agree with that
Season 9 was amazing
Yeah the Whispers could've been better. They weren't really built up, and they showed way too much of how they operate, making them less terrifying. Though I must say Negan whisperer was fun.
@@CausticSpace I completely agree. There was good moments like Darryl vs beta but I think season 11 made the same mistake. It just felt rushed as hell and like they were more worried about getting from point a to point b instead of the story or characters or the reasons why. Which is funny as hell because around the time Judith fixed Darryl’s vest, I was wondering why it felt like absolutely nothing was happening. Shit felt like it took 6 episodes to move from a house to a house next door, just for it to all be filled with speeches on how they’re the good guys without any actual thought put into any of it.
Say Netflix did get The Walking Dead, and they wanted to make the spin offs into a season 12. A way they could do this would be to do it in parts. Similar to skins, where each season shows a different storyline with “different” characters. Part One could be Dead City, Part 2 could be Daryl Dixon with Part 3 being Rick and Michonne. The only issue I could see with this, would be, that the rumors of Rick and Michonnes show only getting 1 season, but say the other 2 shows get “renewed”, it could throw off that entire idea. Also for it to make the most amount of sense, they would have to make Part 1, be the most relative in time to season 11. Then Part 2 and 3. Which depending on which show is set earlier, and which show has the bigger time jump, could cause issue since 2 of the shows are planned to release this year, with Rick and Michonne releasing last. I think it would be a cool idea though, If all 3 shows are only meant to get one season, especially considering the number of episodes that are said to be in each show. Also a theory I have, about a “justification” that the Rick and Michonne Show only being 6 episodes, could mean Ricks death or even Michonne. And if that is our final look of the main group, I could see it being the final part to all 3 shows. With Rick dying, since we started with him, and it could be Daryl and Maggie and whoever else, finding this out and coming to terms with “The End”. And going their separate ways, for good.
Very good point on how to get over the reedit of the spin-offs to a potential season 12.
I agree that Rick story might end on the spinoff, but I hope not. Gives me Dexter New Blood vibes.
Realistically, just how long can you beat a dead horse???
Until it is ashes.
It probably should have ended by now, but like you said, it'd been their cash cow. So you can't really blame them
Nope. Can't blame them at all.
Lol I can, it’s called greed
The TWD Universe fell apart a long time ago. The fans have a lot to do with it as well. People left in droves after the double kill by Negan. Secondly, Scott 'Gimp'le and his writing.... ATROCIOUS!!
Debuting with a respectable-for-cable average of 5.6 million, “The Walking Dead” at its height drew more than 17 million viewers, a tremendous number for the time even by broadcast standards.
i started watching the walking dead this month , unfortunately couldn't pass season 06
switched to breaking bad for the 3rd time .
I thought season 6 was a good one. The show certainly slows.down around that time, but I'd just read the wiki page for season 7 and 8 and skip right to 9, if you want.
Tô me The Walking Dead ended in 2019 with the comics and had an epilogue in 2020 with Negan Lives
Interesting. Did you watch season 11 or not?
Just so sick of waiting for Rick I mean is,was,and has always been the walking dead so the disappointment is tuley Real,I think that if the other shows that are coming are put first and above Rick's return I really think the impacted will be significantly less,as to put Rick's return first it would most likely get us amped up for the others shows to follow!
When Glenn died it went downhill and then after that Carl died then Andrew Lincoln left the show it went all the way down hill only person was carrying show was Jeffrey Morgan after Andrew Lincoln left the show
acting like it was ever together in any form in the first place outside of the comic is a laughable statement.
Even the comic is a little sloppy, but that’s because of Kirkman’s habit of writing for the next chapter, instead of for a cohesive ending.
I just want my ZOMBIES! Just give me walking dead anything.
Fair enough.
I think for many shows it would be better to have a story with a 5 year limit, and not more than 15 episodes per season. Supernatural for example had a 5 year plan that knew where the end was from the beginning. I can appreciate that a lot of ppl still enjoyed the seasons after season 5 but for me, it felt like it went on for far too long. But thats just my little opinion 🤷 😅
Supernatural's fifth season would have been a really good ending.
@@KRWNetwork for definitely sure! And yes, i would've really missed it so much...
Agreed
Sir can you help me i have completed the walking dead all seasons what should i watch after this?and in which i can see rick after this season?
Rick won't show up until his spinoff.
I recommend fear the walking dead, the first 3 seasons will reminds you of that OG twd feeling
@@HA5HGrimes but in our country amc is not available.
How do you watch it?
It fell apart after Glenn's death, that's when it got lame.
I feel like it recovered.
AMC and Scottie Gimple got cold feet when it came to doing the movies. That really could have been something great to complement the tv shows. Hugely missed opportunity.
I think it was more of a financial thing, but I agree with you.
@@KRWNetwork Can’t blame them for doing what’s best for business but it’s unfortunate because this could have taken the brand to the next level. Even one movie release would have been great.
I agree. But, then again, given some of the leaks of who was being tapped to put the movie together. Idk.
@@KRWNetwork Facts.
These 6 episodes of Rick and Michonne better be the greatest pieces of TV to ever exist. Better then breaking bad, better then better call Saul, better then the first 5 seasons of TWD.
That's unlikely.
The Walking Dead does not have phases this is not Marvel!
A phase is literally just a quick way of saying beginning, middle and end
without seeing the video....if you are talking about the characters in the show....you can only fight so long before you lose hope of bringing back some kind of life before the zombies showed up....if you are talking about the actors....if the main characters leave the shows then what made to show something different is gone and sometimes the stories start to change what made a show different ends up being like any other show that has terrible stories.....
Had no idea that You was originally a Lifetime show. Nice little knowledge nugget.
Yeah, I was shocked when I found that out.
I feel like they had Rick with CRM plot mixed it but just dropped it and filled out the last season with whatever
Not sure what you mean.
They should’ve never did all this extra shit
Here's one.... Who cuts all that grass?
Good question.
this is the problem with infinite growth, eventually you over fish and destroy the spot.
I hope they don’t do a cure, do something where like, the majority of walkers on the planet die and the big communities all get a change in status quo- big players die, small players become big players, introduce some more characters that really *feel* familiar to the universe, have that be the big thing that all these spin-offs culminate in and then they take a break for a few years, pick up again later, a decade later maybe- kids grow up, familiar characters are old or gone, new locations in the US and elsewhere, new characters we’ve never met before- fill in on their start in the apocalypse (if they were even alive yet)
That would be cool as well.
3:44 - "Michael Jackson... zombie hunter."
Bruh
I still watch but my interest in the main show dropped when they begin to make a hero out of a pyscho fool who got off on beating people to death with a baseball bat, a man who cheated on his dying wife, and also forced women to be his wives...(There's a four letter word that starts with an 'R' that best describes whats going on there)...I now follow FTWD alot more than the main show. that immature fool Negan's angle is poor writting inmy mind, Who makes a man that was doing the awful things he was doing into a hero, it just turns my interest from the main show...
Dead City needs to really redeem Negan on those issues for sure. I'm not a fan of how they handled it.
@@KRWNetwork Thats one show I will skip
i am wrapping up season 11 and i feel the same way.. i dont rlly like how they handled his character to begin with, but even less now :/.... "oh yeah we all did things to survive and hes changed now" that means squat for someone like maggie who first hand has to deal with the trauma he did.. uh idk..
I feel like they ended it well. They didn't skip out on that trauma. But, we will see how Dead City uses their characters.
tbh none of the characters were likeable after a certain point
the upcoming shows seem low budget, almost like they split their current main shows budget into 3 or something, im hoping the rick and daryl reunion happens
It would be outrageous if they didn't give us a reunion.
Of course it’s falling apart, it’s the apocalypse. Lol I’m here all night.
5:26 never gets old where you get this clip mate
Hahaha
TWD had SO MUCH potential... They fucked everything up at alexandria/killing of glenn. And i dont mean that just bc i like glenn
Why are you hating?
I'm literally not hating at all. I'm explaining my issues with the current state of a franchise I love. I even state that I'm looking forward to these shows. The fact that you don't understand the difference speaks volumes.
Jeffrey Dean Morgan worst thing that ever happened to the walking Dead.Chandler Riggs firing made a bad thing even worse.
The moment they got woke money, all white male characters got black girlfriends :D