A single F-15 time travels to 1941 Pearl Harbor. How would the strike change?
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ok, there is one ( or Two ) other possible payloads for F-15 E:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B61_nuclear_bomb
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B83_nuclear_bomb
well... yeah ⚰☢
No :gigachad:
Hi Binkov
Nice video again. Just to let you know, the link didn’t activate the 30 day thing.
Could a single M1 Abrams change the German invasion of Belgium
The f15 pilot is just the main character from any ace combat game.
One plane with dozens of kills
They can! But they get the benefit of 100+ missiles, 1000+ bullets, resistance to lethal G-forces (Pilot and plane), superplanes, and the ability to recover from any free fall due to stalling. We, aren't so lucky...
One day we'll be able to fit 127 missiles, and 1250 bullets in an F-22...one day...
@@marrqi7wini54 when you hate it but you love it so much. 😂
As I recall, one or two pilots did manage to get airborne and score some kills, but they were denied the Congressional Medal of Honor because they took off without orders. There will always be high-ranking numbskulls in the military!
True, now about a fully loaded A-10 against the Japanese fleet at Pearl Harbor?
History channels at 3am
Meh, not enough aliens.🤣✌
Nah this is actually interesting, instead they’d just ramble incoherently about how aliens caused Pearl harbour for three hours
Move 5 time zones to the west then! 🤣
🤣😂🤣
What happens once its 4:00?
Assuming the F15 arrived ~1 hour before the Japanese attack - and could not radio with Pearl Harbour - one course of action would be to strafe the dockyard, and try to get the US Navy on high alert, try and lure as many planes into the air as possible before the actual enemy arrives.
Ironic, but a very good point
IDK man. If you are in a piston fighter seeing something like a F-15 for the first time screaming through the air. Strafing wouldn't need to happen the loud sound of the Twin jet turbines would have scared the Sh!t out of the pilots. And honestly unless they knew that jet was on their side I highly doubt they would willingly get in the air.
@@Skeezle1986 You gotta do the wiggle. Dark Souls jokes aside, pilots can show peace, or comradery by rocking the wings side to side. Gotta do the wiggle
@@CatsAgainstCommunism yes you can. But the Wiggle is still a fairly new. Less then 50 years during Vietnam is when the method was created. So during WWII they wouldn't know that the pilot is friendly unless they could see the symbols and insignias on the jet. Personally I'd love to see it for real. It would be worse than the Marianas Turkey Shoot lol.
The psychological effects on the Japanese pilots of an alien super jet destroying your buddies is incalculable
Imagine being a pilot on a mission to destroy a target and this mystery plane with American symbols shows up, and it turns out to be 50-60 years ahead of you in development.
"America has these wonder weapons that can destroy our fleet with a single aircraft from 20 miles out. If there's one, there must be more!"
I'd quit right then and there
Or imagine the surprise seeing the f15 put on its after burners and become impossible to pursue. Or a just a j turn
@@nquell2255 it would be magic to them
"It's spitting flames out the back and going twice as fast!! And it's already going three times as fast as our quickest planes! This must be the devils at work"
I think it’s hilarious that the f15 top speed is higher than the Japanese 7.7mm bullet velocity
That's amazing
I was stationed at Pearl back in 1941 when this F-15 showed up. It really freaked a lot of people out, but I explained to everyone that it was part of a RUclips video that was being filmed in the area.
Yep, I know how you feel. I was with the dinosaurs having lunch when that damn meteor showed up. I barely made it....
lol BS the f-15 was not even made back in the 40's
I was watching the 1980 film "The Final Countdown", about an aircraft carrier that went back in time to 1941 and launched aircraft.
@@dax2321 r/woooosh
What if Napoleon had an Apache helicopter at Waterloo?
well, shit would go off for both camps lmao they would all freak out
and the Duke of Wellington has a FIM92 stinger manpads!
@@edwinbeltran2677 and the french had a BRADLEY LRU???
@@kikilafrite09 guess what.... the Brits have NLAWS and Javelins too how ironic isn't???
@@edwinbeltran2677 oh no
Step 1: make at least two low, supersonic passes over Pearl Harbor to wake the Americans up, maybe strafe the dockyard a bit if you really want to get dark about it.
Step 2: take your load of 28 StormBreakers and target the Japanese carriers with 3 each. Go for the rear quarter of the ship, program the bombs so that they land one after another on the same spot of the ship. That way you blow the flight deck with the first one, blow the hanger deck with the second, and hopefully get their engines with the third.
Step 3: find their fuel tankers with that big fancy radar of yours, end them with a StormBreaker a piece.
End results:
* Pearl Harbor is on high alert by the time the Japanese planes get there, mitigating losses.
* All 6 of the Japanese fleet carriers are severely damaged and potentially dead in the water with engine damage, preventing the returning planes from landing.
* The Japanese oil tankers are mostly wiped out, meaning the Japanese fleet has no way home for the time being.
* The US Navy (of the time) would likely be able to dispatch strikes to clean up the disabled ships.
* The Japanese lose pretty much everything they sent on that mission.
And what would happen if you actually were able to land on a short Runway with that jet
1st step is already so based
Strangely enough, the best course of action for the F-15 pilot would not be to attack the enemy, but to attack the Americans! Even 10-20 minutes for the Navy to respond to an aerial attack from an unknown fighter would be enough to be semi-ready when the Japanese attack begins!
That's exactly what I thought couple strafe friends and sonic booms . Cruise would be in battle stations and looking all over the air.
i agree
Foo fighter false flag?
Sounds logical...
Hilarious...I just made the same comment before scrolling
Don't intercept the Japanese immediately. Just go for a low pass to all strategic locations on the island such as AA batteries, airfields, and battleship row. Whole island will be on high alert.
you sir win this video comment section !
True. Harassed the Base. Terrorized the Fleet.p
like drop big bombs just meters away from ships and pelt empty runways with 20mm vulcan and then loiter around so you can emerge for a few seconds at a time to keep the americans on alert
a mysterious US F-15 appears over pearl harbour.
Pearl harbour AA defenses: Anyways I started blasting...
But did they hit anything?
@@grisom5863 Ben Affleck and Josh Harnett would have 😆
Bro send back a A-10 with extended ammo packs. If anything I can promise it would be entertaining
That's exactly my thoughts! Let em feel the cannon burst about 10 times or so they'll get out of dodge, even if their entire decks are not shot to pieces. Let the ol cannon rumble on their command decks a bit and see how they enjoy lacking an admiral and captn.
High speed low pass with sonic boom would cause utter panic, especially since glass would break out from the bridge. Commanders would not know what to do to defend. Plus it would be funny.
True, except that would not actually happen, at least as far as the glass breaking thing. That's only in the movies. The Myth Busters actually tried that. They worked with the USAF and set up an experiment at Edward's AFB where they flew F-16s over a building they had constructed to see if a sonic boom could break the glass. The Air Force made several supersonic passes at near ground level and were unable to break the glass. Now, I should quality that by noting that mass has a lot to do with it. A more massive object like a meteorite can, and has in some cases, created a pressure wave that has shattered glass, for many miles in some cases. But a single F-15 just wouldn't do it. The noise, on the other hand, and the speed, might cause a few cases of soiled underwear.
IF this were to happen, it would have to be Mavrick who flew the plane.
@@rbilleaud Letu s review the actual movie the final countdown real Zeros and jet f14 fighters at nearly stall speed and still the jet wash almost splashed both zeros. If they had been going at full intercept the Mach wave at that close range would have caused the glass to implode not to mention if you, do it above a zero it will bounce them into the ocean. If the pilots don't know what is coming Hey can't even think of evasive maneuvers
@@phantasypublishing The fact that the Zero's flight control surfaces were not power assisted might make it even more challenging to recover the aircraft.
@@gregorymoore2877 it is like the old delta dart fly by wire
Stirr up the hornets' nest by flying by the US base.
The sight and sound of an unknown aircraft would be enough to wake them up, send interceptors, and set up defences.
While the Warhawks attempt to give chase, you can lead them to the Japanese planes which they can report back; while you go ahead and take care of the carriers.
This would atleast give the US a fighting chance to save most of their ships.
This is the most realistic approach to take. However, it would have to be done on the 6th. There wouldn't be enough daylight on the 7th to make a meaningful difference. On the 6th, the crews could be all back onboard the ships, boilers lit, and everyone on high alert.
Even with only minutes, its still better to provide ANY possible warning to Pearl. If beleivability is an issue, slam a couple missiles into empty patches of runway or harbor and buzz battleship row. That would stir the hornets nest right quick.
I agree. I have always thought if Pearl would have had 10-15 minutes warning (or even more), they could have gotten many planes in the air and started moving ships, and had their guns at the ready. That would have helped lessen the losses.
Using a Strike Eagle Harpoon loadout. Go super sonic over pearl harbor. Maybe do a dive and strafing run real fast to get peoples attention that the boom is from a plane( since they won't know what a sonic boom is) . Then punch it to the Japanese fleet. If you go high, it will be about a 10 minute to 12 minute trip before you are in range and go weapons hot. Take them out with Harpoons, call it a day.
You could also just use a tactical nuke like an M61. A single modern fighter is going to have virtually no impact in fight a massive amount of WW2 planes. You will run out of ammo and only make a scratch.
He would be better stocking up on Paveways and hitting the carriers. That makes strategic sense. Shooting down a few aircraft is a waste.
It have to be a laser guy that j damn's don't exist in 41 because there's no satellites for him so basically it have to be a laser guy to munitions although that time of day they could drop from high altitude lays a Target. and just bucks some s*** up one paveway per carrier might not destroy the carrier but if you could take the entire keto bowtie out of the entire picture for the first six seven months of the war that's a completely different Outlook.
Yeah, once all those planes come back and find they can't land it'll make a big difference at wake island.
Should just hover over the american airfield and make sure the American planes aren't destroyed on the ground. Once enough America planes takes off, go for the Japanese carriers and destroy their decks
It would basically be like Midway, except before Pearl Harbor, and by a single plane that can't miss.
@@jasonthomas9596 I don’t know, a single paveway per carrier placed well could do plenty of ship crippling damage. The Japanese carriers where notoriously under armored even during midway, with a single 500ib bomb crippling Soryu.. not to mention the Japanese ships had a huge red dot on the flight deck, I feel like you might not even need Paveways if it had ASMs,the F15 could probably cripple the entire fleet I would say, a pod of hellfire missiles 6 ASMs specifically for the carriers and 10 DBs
I have to wonder if this was inspired by Final Countdown. The premise is a 1980s aircraft carrier is transported back to Pearl Harbor in 1941. If you ever wanted to see Japanese zeroes get obliterated by F14s that’s the movie to watch XD
It's a cool idea. Now imagine things like Aztecs with machineguns or Vikings with the knowledge to cover their berserkers with winter coats, the possibilities are endless!
Probably both inspired by Final Countdown and Ace Combat Zero
@@clev5624 I never played that version of Ace Combat. (Though when I was young I played the 3DS version and my favorite plane was the F6F Hellcat cause I could turn inside keys in dogfights and blast them with machine guns XD)
You forgot the alternativ where the F-15 could just make low flyby on Pearl Harbor, that would put the entire island on Alert, giving the US a chance to get fighters in the Air as a unknown plane hade made it into the base
At super sonic 😂
@@Project_STI Knowing the military, they'd dock his pay for all the broken windows.
Also maybe fire your guns and strafe near the ships. (Don't actually hit them.)
This will up the urgency.
Imagine being an American fighter pilot, getting up in the air and trying to chase down the f-15 only for it to lead you to the entire Japanese attack, before forming up at the lead of your squad in formation
That Time I Got Sent Back in Time with my F-15 To Prevent The Pearl Harbor Attack
I’d actually want to watch that
there's a manga where modern Japan got teleported to a fantasy world "Nihonkoku Shoukan", quite the interesting read
@@maruftim 紺碧の艦隊 seems more interesting from its summary.
@@maruftim Is that GATE? i love gate.
@@jrspringston nope, this one got the entirety of Japan's islands teleported to a different world
The attack relied completely on surprise. If the Japanese believed that they had lost the element of surprise, they would have immediately pulled back. A swift attack by the F-15, even if only a single bomb against one carrier, would have convinced the Japanese that they were spotted, that defenses on Pearl Harbor would be at high alert, and that a larger aerial response by the US would soon follow. The attack would have been called off, and they would have gotten out of there.
That Kill Eagle F-15 would of been to much at Once. Plue The risen Sun there sailors would not believe what they were seeing what was attacking them. And yes More of the fighters would not been hit so they would be in the air by now. Would of been a shit show for them. If could but we can't!!!
Yep all a F15 has to do is sink one ship and the IJN will nope out of there.
Nah. After seeing the approaching Japanese airplanes the F15 pilot should immediately turn and proceed to Pearly Harbor for a few low fly-by's while squeezing off a few bursts of it's guns (harmlessly into the water) to alert the Americans. Seeing this modern aircraft and not knowing quite what it was, would surely confuse the Americans but it would also scare the shit out of them and immediately put all ships into general quarters. The F15 should then turn to look towards the north and where those planes appeared to be coming from. The F15 radar would then spot the ships. The F15 could then approach the ships for an attack. The way I see it this would be the best option. It would give our boys in Pearl Harbor a fighting chance to defend themselves while giving the F15 pilot the opportunity to take out most of those carriers. The F15 pilot wouldn't even need to find or attack the Japanese fighters directly. With their carriers sunk ALL of those Japanese planes would have no option but to ditch at sea. We'd get every one of them without firing a shot. There really wouldn't have been any way for a single modern fighter to stop enough of those 353 Japanese aircraft to make much of a difference for Pearl Harbor. Any effort to engage the Japanese planes directly would have been largely a wasted effort. But by heading to Pearl first and giving our boys perhaps 15 minutes of advance notice it could have saved many lives and kept more than a few of our ships from being sunk. After those fly-by's the command at Pearl would have immediately alerted other airbases around the island so we wouldn't have lost as many of our planes. Also, knowing that a significant number of Japan's aircraft and carriers were lost in the effort would take some of the sting out of any losses at Pearl.
@@mr.nemesis6442 There was strict observance of radio silence. Once the planes were under way and that close to their target, the Japanese naval commanders likely wouldn't have tried to stop the planes anyway.
Simply flying at low altitude over the carriers and creating a sonic boom as the Japanese were preparing their planes would've stopped it all. They'd know they were spotted, and would freak out. Unsure if the sonic boom would do any damage to anything, but that would be a bonus.
If the F15 buzzed Pearl Harbor, the panic over a never before seen aircraft might cause the base to go full alert out of panic
This could be a movie. A Terminator is sent back to stop Pearl Harbor. He fully equips (maximum destruction power) & hijacks an F-15, equips it with a flux capacitor, uses 1 of his nuclear power supplies to power the machine, goes back in time & disables/destroys all but 1 carrier before planes take off, shoots down the planes that get off the 1 carrier before they get to Pearl, goes back, crash lands (not a long enough runway) on the functional carrier, terminates everyone on board, fixes the damaged F-15 on the trip back to Japan & rigs up a catapult for it to take off again. Once in Tokyo, he terminates Tojo & the rest of the hierarchy, rigs up extra jet fuel tanks to get his F-15 across Asia, lands on a runway outside of Berlin, makes his way in & runs thru all the Nazis protecting Hitler & when he finds him, the movie ends with him saying to Hitler, "Hasta La Vista, Baby" & the sound of a bullet being shot. End Credits
This has the same energy as that one WKUK skit with Trevor pitching movie ideas
it was done as a movie. it was called the final countdown. It had a aquadron of f14s that went back in time.
I’ll do you one better
How would’ve D-Day played out if an AC-130 was sent back in time?
Can you imagine the horror stories the axis forces would tell?
Oh those poor souls on D-Day my friend. The AC-130 would have been nearly untouchable, and could you imagine 3 or 4 AC-130's escorting those Lancaster's and B-1's into their drop locations? The aircraft the opposition had at the time would have had a difficult time stopping the AC-130 considering it's onboard weaponry. The 25mm gat would have made mince meat out of the oppositions aircraft, not to mention the absolute horror that 105mm howitzer and 40mm BOFORS Cannon could cause on the ground and over water on the opposition's navy.
@@soulessshadow5356 no no no you guys are thinking to small a B-52 Stratofortress with 84 500lb bombs would have annihilated the whole German Normandy coastline and the U-boat pens lol
F-15 being a fighter: *very little*
F-15 as a bomber: “this is super easy, barely an inconvenience.”
Wow wow wow wow wow
I understand that reference.
I think an interesting option that would not only cause damage to the Japanese Fleet but to also repel the attack itself would be for the F-15 to initially attack Pearl Harbor. 2-3 200 lbs bombs a half hour before the attack, combined with simulated strafing runs from an unidentified, advanced, and "hostile" aircraft would mobilize the bases air defense. The battleships are unlikely to get underway but the islands several hundred aircraft now in the air or on alert along with all the AA will give the Japanese strike one hell of a fight. Then the F-15 can go hit the carrier group with its remaining bombs.
Besides that, its first mission should provide support over Henderson Field, to allow for the fighters to take off
@@claudiopiccoliromera2646 I don't think that there were enough planes and experienced pilots on the island to fully defend Pearl
This sounds like the “warn us forces over radio” option with extra steps
@@claudiopiccoliromera2646 Henderson field was on Guadalcanal...4000miles away!!
@@TheMagusOfTheMagnaCarta ouch!
You missed the most effective weapon the F-15 would have available... turbulence from a jet engine. Would just need a pilot with some math skills to figure out how far away they could get away with staying whilst still inducing mass stalls for the Japanese planes.
Nice point. The jet's speed would so much faster where the Japanese planes wouldn't have a chance. Strafe them from behind then catch them in the jet's turbulence after ammunition is depleted. And he's wrong. It wouldn't take nearly as long for the jets to turn around as he claims.
Flying Mach 2 close to the Japanese aircraft formations and creating a sonic boom might also do a bit of damage. Perhaps that could even shatter the canopy glass of those old aircraft.
Another important point. The pilot probably remembers some history. A few hours warning already makes a difference.
You're thinking wrong. I would buzz the U S base, maybe a a few strafing runs on a useless building to put the base on full alert. Afterwards backup the fighters after they launch.
I like that thought
Best not to wait until the last minute. Thanks to the anti- sabotage status, the time required to get the planes in proper shape and airborne would probably be measured in hours.
Imagine, US pilots on the way out on a suicidal counterattack, knowing they won't return. As they approach, they see tall towers of billowing smoke. A fleet of unimaginable size... but as they get closer, they see flames, and three leaning ships. The bow of a carrier standing on end as it sinks blow the surface. Japanese planes are circling overhead, many crashing into the ocean, others falling out of the sky. This is the correct fleet. This is the enemy... and someone. Or something... destroyed them. Decades pass and this mystery is never solved. The phantom ghost of the pacific. An act of God defending the US homeland. A divine wind...
fucken aliens
Agreed quite an image. I kind of think the creators of the 1980s classic movie "The Final Countdown" had it right in terms of how the Japanese pilots in A6M Zeroes would react to a scenario in which they were confronted by modern jet fighters. In the scene, the Japanese pilots were originally shocked by the appearance of the jets, but reacted professionally and tried to fight as best they could.
@@appa609 Bruh its a 5 squadroned F15 that went backt o the current date
reality: *smol F-15 boi destroys entire japanese fleet with minimal effort*
If the F15 did a strafing run of pearl harbor with it’s 20mm cannon (in the water near the ships) I would think this would at least give the base a chance to be at red alert for 10 minutes, might improve their odds a little.
Technically speaking, firing on the Japanese before they fired/dropped bombs would be an act of war.
The best option would be a low, high-speed pass over Battleship Row and hit them with a sonic boom to wake them up. Then go after the carriers. There's no way a single F-15 could stop all the Japanese aircraft, so the best tactical option would be to deny them somewhere to land.
ABSOLUTELY!!!
The F-15 wouldn't need any weapons just buzzing Pearl Harbor at mach speed In a modern jet would be enough to put the entire base on alert....mission accomplished!
F15 with a tactical thermonuclear bomb would finish their entire fleet within 2 seconds. No need for anything else to say, a above water detonation and distance from Hawai should minimise or nullify any radioactive colletarals.
or it could have a nanite bomb and open a portal to hell
Below water detonation is far more defective though… given that they’d be a couple hundred kilometres from pearl harbour it would probably be better to just accept the contamination. Most of the Japanese fleet would be destroyed on impact and the survivors would have their crews killed by the radioactive water raining down on them.
Wasn't this kinda like the premise for that movie Final Countdown? A nuclear carrier time travels through a vortex from the 1980s to the time of the Pearl Harbor attack. Starred Martin Sheen and Kirk Douglas. Good movie! I think they ended up NOT intervening though out of fear of screwing with the space/time continuum.
Yes, but they did not stop the attack for fear of altering the timeline. The storm that caused them to time travel in the first place returned and they chose to abandon the attack and try to return to the future.
@@darrylj271 ah, that's right. Been years since I've seen it.
Spoiler Alert!
There was a similar movie called The Final Countdown when I was a kid. It was about this happening to a Nimitz class carrier. Saw it recently and holy crap are the sfx... a reflection of technology of the time.
@I'm On Your Roof Seen it recently? Film is a bit of a strong word.
@I'm On Your Roof No way. Where do you even find a beta-max player anymore?!?! 😂
Excellent movie which has now become a classic! Starring the wonderful actor Kirk Douglas!
@I'm On Your Roof Tora Tora Tora is one of the best World War II movies ever produced!
@I'm On Your Roof another excellent World War II movie is the German film Das Boot!
That 20mm Vulcan would do a lot of damage to the planes. Hell, just the jet wash could take down some of the Japanese planes. That F16 'buzzing' some of them would cause them to go into some crazy spins. And think about how distracting that would be, they would not see anything, then something buzzing by them at about 4 times their speed shooting at them than disappearing into an altitude they can't even come close to. It would certainly mess things up.
They have done that, in a movie, The Final Countdown, except a whole Aircraft Carrier, The USS Nimitz and its F-14s were sucked into a time warp back to Dec 7 just before they attacked Pearl Harbor... A great movie...
I'm not finding anything about this can you please provide a link
@@serronserron1320 dude, just look it up on Wikipedia. It’s 2022, how do you not know how to google? Lol
@@serronserron1320 ruclips.net/video/7otgVXJiRkQ/видео.html
@@zeus982 I'm not finding anything about this can you please provide a link
Have seen it good film.it’s on prime.
There was a movie with Kirk Douglas from 1980 called The Final Countdown where the aircraft carrier USS Nimitz went through a time warp to end up back in 1941 a few days before Pearl Harbor, an F-14 Tomcat has a dogfight with an A6M Zero. Cool movie, I won't spoil the ending.
pretty sure the f15 is nuclear capable, little sneak peek for the Japanese.
any Ace Combat player worth their crisp white sheets knows 1 plane can always change the course of any war.
Or that one ship has the power to provide
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Less interesting, but a noteworthy upper end of the effectiveness a single F-15 could have: It appears that the B61 nuclear bomb is still in active service and is cleared for deployment on the F-15e. It weighs 1200 pounds (so several could be carried even with additional fuel to facilitate high speed bombing runs). Yield can be dialed down to 0.3kt, perhaps reducing fuel consumption needed to flee the bomb blast?
It is reduced to reduce blast radius
Or... Provide said ability to flee the blast radius and EMP.
There is president of aircraft fighting that had a technological gap. The Germans and the Brits experienced this when Germany figured out how to time forward facing machine gun fire through their propellor, something the Brits hadn't figured out yet.
Ever heard of Sholto Douglas, 1st Baron Douglas of Kirtleside?
He was Assistant Chief of the Air Staff at the Air Ministry during World War II, with the rank of Air Marshall.
As a Lieutenant in the Royal Flying Corps in World War One, he was an observation officer in a godawful deathrap called the BE-2c.
The gunner sat in the front seat, FACING BACKWARDS.
His gun POINTED backwards. When he fired, he had to make sure he didn't blow off the pilot's head.
On December 29, 1915, Sholto Douglas led a flight of two BE-2cs.
They were jumped by SIX Foxxer EIII monoplanes that had machine guns that fired through the propellor, something the Brits didn't have.
The Fokkers were much faster and much more maneuverable.
And one of the Fokkers was flown by Oswald Boelcke, the man who INVENTED all the fighter tactics we still use today.
Sholto Douglas's companion was shot down instantly, so Douglas used the strength of the BE-2c.
He dove to nearly ground level and flew in and out of groves, dodging trees and slowing down as much as he could.
Ther German fighters were too fast! They kept flying past him.
Gunner Lieutenant James Childs got airsick from all the violent maneuvering and puked up his breakfast in Douglas's face.
Douglas had to tear off his goggles and fly with his eyes exposed to the slipstream, oil from the engine, and vomit.
Then a Fokker piloted by ANOTHER aviation pioneer named Max Immelmann joined the fight.
SEVEN Fokkers against the BE-2c, two of them flown by men who invented maneuvers still used today.
Douglas dodged the seven Fokkers for HALF AN HOUR.
When a tracer bullet hit his fuel sump, he knew he had to get the hell out of Dodge.
The shortest way home was over German trenches.
Douglas flew at 20 feet, fired at by every rifle and machine gun on the ground.
He made it home.
His aircraft had been hit with over 100 bullets.
We'll never know how many bullets missed.
What did Douglas do the next day?
HE WENT OUT AGAIN IN THE SAME AIRCRAFT, FACING THE SAME ODDS.
Sholto Douglas lived until 1969.
Oswald Boelcke was killed when one of his students crashed into him, tearing off a wing.
Max Immelmann was killed when his machine gun malfunctioned and shot off his own propellor.
The best strategic move for the f15 would be to attack pearl harbor with the Gatlin. One well aimed attack wouldn't harm anyone, but at the same time cause the entire base to scramble its fighters immediately. Then the f15 can play stall tactics until the U.S fighters are in the air.
What if
Before you attack the carriers, you simply do a low altitude fly-by over the US naval base
That oughta get the message across to get ready for battle.
10 minutes of preparation can save hundreds of lives
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Binkov’s Battlegrounds: *Belgium conquers the world!*
Belgium would hardly conquer Luxemburg with tremendous losses. History has proven that we are shining in the art of being steamrolled by our neighbours. Our defeats are our legends, Eben Emael, King's decision to surrender in 1940, Schlieffen plan. Our pride is to have successully kept 5km square of our country free from germans during WWI. In order the belgium conquers the world scenario possible, Binkov would have to find a reason to convince ALL belgians regions to go to war with any chance of not being obliterated. Good luck with that.
Thinking out of the box. As a pilot i'd try to use radio. If this won't be enough i would... atack ships in port myself! That would cause raising an alarm and probably multiple fighters would go into air. Then i'd try to lure defending planes to japaneese attack planes.
There’s a movie where a Nimitz class carrier with F-14s goes back to pearl harbour. The Final Countdown
Couple major issues. The 2 waves of aircraft were launched about 1.5 hours apart. Meaning if you attacked the carriers while the 1st wave was attacking. The 2nd wave would be on the carriers. Or waited for the 2nd wave to attacked, the 1st wave would be getting rearmed for a possible 3rd wave that got canceled.
Agree bombs would be a better load out, but you are incorrect that cruise missles would be the same as 500lb bombs. Even the smallest warhead on a Harpoon has double the warhead of the GBU 12 (500lb paveway bomb)
And those extremely heavy mk 33 1000lb bombs used in ww2. They had very small war heads. Actually even smaller than the GBU 12 in size (only 150lbs) But the explosive force would be greater than the MK 33 AP bombs used in 1942. PBXN is at minimum 1.2x more than that of TNT.
Matt, to your first point, I would suggest the initial attack be against the cruising ships outside of their aircraft range and using minimal munitions, simply to turn to formation from it's attack. Make a bombing run across the first carrier, dropping a couple smaller bombs to damage the flight deck, go supersonic and climb to a loitering position to see how the fleet reacts. Yamamoto was enough of a tactician to know he was still outside the known American aircraft's range and the sonic boom would probably be taken as one or more additional explosions, since the sound was virtually unknown at the time. At best, you may panic the attack group enough to believe the element of surprise was lost and abort the mission. At worst, the attack group announces themselves with one carrier making smoke from the fires or they lose one carrier from the formation, reducing the available aircraft for the attacks and you can turn and burn for Pearl, scare the alert squadron into action and still have most of your munitions available for round two, since you can be on scene to intercept the fleet a second time while still leading the US alert squadron to the Japanese fleet, do initial damage and let the full force of the military base come to bare.
I wonder what would have happened if a carrier from 1980 arrived with F-14s. Oh, wait.
Should get the band Europe to make a song for it. Let me know what you think.
I saw that movie "The Final Countdown" 1980 with Kirk Douglas.
Its the final coundown! (guitar noises)
The F-15 can carry a nuke. I'd load it out with some rockets or regular bombs, but I would send it with a nuke. High altitude drop. They would never know it's coming and a nuke would destroy the entire fleet.
Imagine the reports coming back to Hirohito that the entire fleet is gone? Zero survivors??
@@patches6309 No, sir, none of the Zeros survived either.
The F-15 only had to fly fast and low over the american airfields and ships. That would scare the shit out of them and they would definitely be alarmed and ready to fight the japanese planes following. Simple as that.
Or do the same thing over the Japanese battle group and they’d turn around before the attack happened at all. A Japanese Zero top speed is 350mph, an F-15’s is 1,600mph.. you fly by at 1,600 mph in the 1940’s everyone is going to run from your military..
@@Ivan.A.Trulyuski though at low altitudes going that speed the airframe would probably get damaged or destroyed, but yes jets can go close to the speed of sound at sea level
The best thing to do would be to drop a 500# bomb near Battleship row 5 minutes before the Japanese attack, followed by a strafing run on another base, missing people and equipment. This would alert the 1941 military and have them at their guns when the Japanese attack. It would also still allow his follow up attack on the Japanese fleet as depicted in this video. Also after the attack run on Battleship row and a nearby airbase, his radio call would not be ignored any longer. Use force multiplication, with only sacrificing minimal ordinance.
that strafing run is kinda smart actually
If you could send the F-15 back to December 7th, you would also be able to send it back to the evening of the 6th. Then it could wipe the fleet out under cover of darkness and nobody would ever know what happened to the lost Japanese fleet.
Sounds like using the f-15 to attack the carriers would make the most sense. Also, I can't believe that we're having this discussion at all. The internet is weird and fun.
It was inspired by the 1980 film "The Final Countdown"
it could bypass the first wave & go straight towards the carriers & take them out so there would be no second wave
i have a variant idea for you. a pair of A-10 Warthogs appear.
Make a supersonic pass over Pearl to wake everyone up and then go after the carriers.
Yeah, that's my solution too. Use radar to guide a fighter / bomber attack in on the carriers.
One thing you have to consider as far as the efficacy of the weapons used is a modern bomb's warhead and metallurgy. modern warhead composition is much more powerful than what we used in WWII. similarly the metallurgy is such, a penetrating, delayed fuse weapon would likely get further into the ship given the higher speed of a modern altitude drop combined with a harder structure. In addition to the bomb run, the F-15 pilot might choose to strafe the hell out of the bridge and/or other critical point to make sure the Japanese were out of the fight. I heard a story once about a WWII pilot who after finishing his bomb run, strafed the ship until empty, then, opened his canopy and shot his sidearm at personnel on deck as he flew by. Finally, he made one last run at deck level where he gave them the finger, knowing he had used a lot of fuel and was unarmed for his flight back. Apparently he lost some friends at Pearl and wanted some payback.
Choosing to defend Pearl or sink the carriers presents an interesting strategic and ethical question, given the prior knowledge aspect. Going further, one could consider if the use and/or development of the atomic bomb might change, and how.
Watch a movie called 'the final count down' where a Nimitz class air craft carrier goes back in time just before pearl
Remember there was also 2 F-14's off the coast that accidentally went there from 1980 :D
The Final Countdown…
What if we use VF-1J Valkyrie instead? VF-0 Phoenix still requires fuel. Then again, Bay's movie feels like Macross Plus.
@@smartfrenandromax6651 then WW2 would have very well been stopped with one veritech. It's biggest issue would be running out of weapons and fuel.
It’s the Fi-nal Count-Down!!!!!!
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Better solution is sonic boom or two over the Pearl habour first and cause everyone to alert stations… then go head on and take out a few
Thinking same thing, why waste advanced munitions on zeros. Maybe a few near explosions to get the US ships moving out of harbor. After they go alert stations then fly directly to the carriers at sea and take them out.
Arm it with 2 nuclear bombs
Drop one in front of the carrier strike group, say 20km away, then fly directly over the carriers at supersonic speed with afterburners engaged
Then if they don't turn back, send the other nuke right in the center of the formation
No more fleet
The F-15's pilot is going to be dumbfounded on why he found F-14s launched by a modern CVN in 1941.
It's the final countdown
It could fire a missile or two near the American base just to ring the alarm. 10 minutes is a lot of time to get prepared
Make one highspeed supersonic pass over pearl harbor to alert the ground forces. Than head to sink the carriers.
there was some F14's there but the Commander of the Nimitz chickened out and recalled them.
Be careful when using GPS guided weapons, since you are not bringing your own satellites with you.
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That's why the mentioned using laser guided bombs and that day was had great visibility in the video.
The F15 could just patrol the airbases and make sure that the American plains aren't destroyed at the airfield.
Btw, there is an old movie called "The final countdown", where the USS Nimitz travels back in time to Pearl Harbor.
Good movie.
Simple answer: as a fighter, minimal difference.
As a bomber, huge potential to at least minimize the attack and turn their fleet around.
The first thing the F15 should have done is a low high speed flyover of Pearl Harbor to put them on alert.
Yeah, sonic boom the shit out of the base! Good idea!
No real mention of the psychological freak out the presence of the F-15 would have? It would be something so outside of their experience that to the people of the time it would seem like they were being attacked by an alien spacecraft
Yeah . Imagine 5th gen jets like F-35 or F-22 .
Yeah an alien spacecraft piloted by an alien with a hick accent hollaring "Murica, fuck yeah!" on the radio as it drops previously unimaginably powerful bombs on the Japanese carriers
The best strategy would be to shoot up the water in Pearl Harbor, create chaos without hurting anybody. This would get everybody prepared and head to battle stations before the Japanese arrived. One F-15 could get the U.S. Naval station battle ready and prepared as they arrived. Then use remaining ammo on the first wave.
they don't need to waste any ammo, the sound alone is enough to get the hung over, sleeping pilots to run to their planes in time to respond
@@mehere8038 you are so right. A few sonic booms to help out.
@@joeluebbers5474 yup exactly! Gonna totally freak them out, just as much as the Japanese planes & bombs did - probably moreso
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What if pearl Harbor had a single C-RAM?
Whole war cancelled.
@@grantwithers would it be?
@@Tanga2460 I'm joking. But maybe if the CRAM, properly positioned etc., went full beast mode at stopping all but a tiny bit of damage from happening. The gov would be pissed, but maybe not enough to launch war over a tiny bit of damage.
Japanese Zero top speed: 350mph
American F-15 top speed: 1,600mph
The Japanese wouldn’t even attack if they saw an American military aircraft fly by them at over mach 2.
pretty sure there is an altitude and weight requirement for that speed, the f15 will not reach 1600mph with a full bombload
@@Infinitetech-ogda pretty sure you’re right but I’m also pretty sure no matter what they will be going at least 2x the speed of a Zero, basically they guy would shit himself no matter what
Alternatively, do a sonic boom over the carrier or ship. Just cause their heads to go pop.
One final scenario was missed for this F15E sortie. One precision B61-11 with a 400kt yield detonated at 1000' above the fleet would result in a very bad day for all of them.
Buzz the “tower” to get American fighters off the ground and alert. Then head toward the carriers and sink them.
Why buzz the tower? Tower would have said look we've ignored the 83 intercepted msgs from Yamamoto to the carriers we've ignored our own radar operator telling us the Japanese are here were letting this shit go down end of
Once the fighter is out of ammo, it cannot get resupplied immediately. The ammunition is different in 1941 than it is today. It would have only made a slight impact. If it was a squadron of them, then yes it would have changed history a bit.
Flying Mach 2.5 near the formations of relatively flimsy Japanese aircraft might do some damage to all of them without firing a shot.
One of the greatest movies ever was “The Final Countdown.” I would love to see someone redo that movie and make it even better than the original.
Final Countdown was one huge cocktease with no payoff since they couldn't change anything beyond that one ship's crew
@@MoreEvilThanYahweh well yes but the Air-to-air scenes with F-14's and zeros made it all worth the while
F-15 loaded with extra fuel tanks and 4 B61-12 nuclear bombs.
The most powerful weapon would not be the F-15 itself, but the pilot's knowledge of history.
I am thinking the F15 itself is the treasure. A huge leap in technology would change the course of the war.
@@kenduncan3221 - I don't agree. It would take the US years just to understand the electronics. Having the knowledge of where your enemies are and what they will do is a far more powerful asset then any single plane or even an entire fleet.
@@namelessking8905 It will take a while to reverse engineer but solid state technology is not complex. The pilots knowledge is useful in the first couple of months but gets more unreliable as time passes. Having remembered tech specs would be very useful though. Knowing that the US Sub torpedoes are crap should be very useful.
@@kenduncan3221 The submarine crews knew that too. No high official will admit his ideas are crap, F15 pilot or no.
@@namelessking8905 So after December 7, from the top of your head, what was thejr next target, and what time did they hit it?
In scenario's like this everyone thinks we 'know' history, but we only know the big picture. What date, what time, how many divisions, in what direction?
The first attack, was it on Wheeler or Hickam field? Attacked from the East or West, or both sides?
Hong Kong will be attacked. Good to know. Now how do we get troops there in time? The US army is trying to mobilize, the British army is stretched to the limit already, and the Dutch army is on the defensive in Indonesia
At what time did the first strike hit WaKe island? They did not have radar, soyour memory better be accurate ..
There is a movie "The Final Countdown" where a modern Aircraft Carrier returns in time durinh WW2 and the F14s are fighting the Zeros. Watch it
Anything you put on the F15 would need to be laser guided, bombs like the Stomrbreaker that use GPS/INS would be useless due to a lack of GPS satellites and issues with initialising the INS.
Attacking the ships is by far the best option but it would also be important that after the attack the F15 drops down to low altitude and does a low pass over the ships going as fast as it possibly can.
A supersonic flyby of an aircraft that had just singlehandedly destroyed the fleet would end the Pacific War that afternoon.
Probably could just use CCIP with the bombs.
@@koc988 for sureand it would be a million times more accurate than anything in WW2. Laser guidance though will guarantee a precise hit that would easily sink or disable the ship.
@@MagpieOz lol nice pick up on the GPS not existing! This attack has just screwed with it's development big time though, cause you just stopped Australia ever entering the war & forming an alliance with America, so even the moon landing now has issues
There was a movie made about this, but it was a Nimitz class Carrier Group with f14s that went back to that day . It was a cool movie
Yep!! The Final Countdown baby!!
@@tommytmt That was it. I saw it years ago on regular cable I think . Cool movie, I remember they we're literally preparing for war. They were all fired up, loading missiles, prepping fighters for full out battle, then right before they were going to launch, they went back to current time. One of those frustrating endings.
A single F-15 is not enough, unless the pilot got unlimited fuel and ammo, it will be overwhelmed by a swarm of enemy fighters.
Eh the pilot could just fly away without any Zero even knowing it’s there,but it wouldn’t make a huge impact regardless due to limited ammo as you said
Flying Mach 2.5 near the formations of relatively flimsy Japanese aircraft might damage them all without firing a shot. Japanese pilots might not enjoy canopy glass shattering, and who knows what else would happen to those aircraft.
There was a movie made in the late 1980s with this same idea in mind, The Final Countdown. The premise was that a Nimitz class carrier traveled back in time to Pearl Harbor 12/6/41.
I would offer the suggestion of the F-15 actually performing strafing runs on Pearl Harbor itself...At 10 mins prior to the attack, defenses would already scrambled and in place when the Japanese arrived.
Do a flyby at over Mach 1. The sonic boom would be interpreted as an explosion that happened nearby and it would have the same effect as actually bombing without the bomb damage. There would be broken windows and not much else. The Japanese raid would be met with active anti-air defenses and fighters already in the air.
“Go home F-15 you are drunk!”
*Sad F-15 noises*
Oh look. A meme.
A single F-15E Strike Eagle could end the war before it began. Four JDAMS or AGM-65 missiles could cripple each carrier.
If I were the pilot I would target only the carriers. Without the carriers planes would have to ditch in the ocean. The rest of that fleet would either have to spend the time waiting for pilots to return and pick them up or worry about their own ship’s safety and run.
Suggestion: force US forces to be on alert by ineffectively attacking the US forces... say by blowing up a couple of fuel dumps & strafing something to be noisy, but of minimal military value. 10 minutes might be worthwhile.
Good point, although the pilot might have a warm welcome when he tried to land.
Do a fly-by on the tower, causing a high-ranking officer to spill coffee on himself.
there's no need for bombing anything, in fact bombing stuff badly just negates the threat, a fly over & then gone is what would freak them out
If the pilot knew where he was and what was about to happen, and a radio alert wasnt possible, he should fire "warning shots" at some of the ally ships to put them on alert. but I get the scenario. Even an entire aircraft carrier with modern planes could only do so much with limited supplies
if it were an F-15E with enough range to reach the enemy carriers then it would make a difference
If it was a super hornet it could land on a carrier
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There were 6 carriers in that carrier group, All six of Japan's first-line aircraft carriers, Akagi, Kaga, Soryu, Hiryu, Shokaku and Zuikaku, ...
The (newer) F-15s can carry In a typical escort configuration, can carry 16 AIM-120 AMRAAM; four AIM-9X Sidewinder short-range missiles; and two AGM-88 HARMs.
For precision strike, it can carry 16 Small-Diameter Bombs (SDBs); four AMRAAMs; one 2,000 lb Joint Direct Attack Munition (JDAM); two HARMs; and two fuel drop tanks.
16 Small Diameter Bombs makes 2 precision SDBs per carrier plus 4 extra - one to destroy propulsion (engine) and one to destroy the bridge and the carrier commanders.
The Japanese fleet was 200 miles from Pearl or 3,800 miles from Japan. Once all the carriers are sunk or immobilized, all their airplanes will have to ditch.. Just let them feed the sharks...
Uhhh thats cruel man usa literally nuked a civillian city because of 23 soldiers dead in pearl harbour i hate old usa
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No bcz they will run out of ammunition though it will be big shock to Germans
Imagine a squad of A-10's vs the pearl harbor attack!
Wouldn't even have to load bombs... A 2 second burst from old painless in the nose straight down the centreline will ruin the deck!
What about once the F15 landed? I imagine the airforce would reverse-engineer it.
I don’t think they could
@@commonavionics6069 I mean ofcourse they wouldn't be able to replicate everything, lacking the modern computers and all, but there would still be plenty to learn from. WW2 would probably end sooner on both fronts, and so the west could capture more of Europe. Together with the F15 knowledge, and more of Europe captured, the west would be able to end the cold war much faster, even without a direct war.
@@hylobateslar4151 Plus, given that the video assumes the pilot was sent purposely back in time, they could have prepared the pilot with vast amounts of history knowledge of WW2, likely giving heaps of strategical advantages on both theaters
Do a fly-by of the harbor and runaway to scare the soldiers and get them on alert.