DM Accuses Player Of Cheating, Outs Himself As A Liar
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2025
- Exposing a DM that accuses his player of lying about rolls. I'm experimenting with a new editing style too.
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Nice job with the editing, but what happened to the compass of judgement?
@@vellothedreepy5930 I got a little bored with it at a certain point, it could make a comeback is the demand is there.
Whats up with this story by the way, I am pretty sure you already covered this one
@@fake-king3837 The tale of the incel saying women are liars has been covered before by other channels, but not by Critcrab himself. Given he's been in the process of moving, it was probably easier to cover a classic tale someone else did rather than find one fresh to think over.
Wooooo glory stories!!
Rolling a nat 20 is apparently like taking the glasses off and letting the hair down in an early 2000s teen film.
That's the part that gets me. DM is awful at flirting and has the most insane ideas about what makes someone attractive. Classic example of "tell us you have no social skills without directly saying it."
Even the most generous interpretation is messed up. He is attracted to her,so everything she does is attractive to him. Therefore he can't let her do anything attractive or his friends will "steal his girl from him."
I wish that worked for guys, would save me so much time in the day if I could spontaneously become more attractive by rolling a 20
@@Lh0000 but then you would only attract people with personalities like DM. That's a monkey's paw wish for sure
Those women and their seductive dice rolling, gets me every time
Please, Don't kink shame me.
I would really love the goofy idea that he rolls for her, and rolls a nat 20 on one of her rolls, then his face goes pale, looks up at her all scared and just says. "h-how did you do that? are you a witch?!" like she's still somehow cheating through his hands.
You know darn well as soon as he got to roll her dice that she would never get a nat 20 again. Dude doesn't want any of the other guys to "think she is super attractive for her good dice rolls" or whatever insane rationale the DM has convinced himself is legit.
Who the hell is attracted to someone specifically because they get lucky rolling dice? Especially in a game where you don't even win money for rolling well.
@@buxzw1945 bet more often than not her rolls would end up coincidentally being under 10 or 'oops you were just one point short of making this save!'. cause you know that would not be sus at all. wouldn't be surprised if he turned things sexual for her character as some weird revenge if he had control of it
@@faeb.9618 I would be surprised if he DIDN'T make it sexual or something similar
You know damn well if that girl had crystals, she'd capitalize on that witch comment just to piss him off more. Or at least, it'd be hilarious if he did that.
*she, stupid app won't let me edit
This was a surprisingly civil outcome considering the circumstances.
DM took a look at himself and realized what he was doing so maybe if he goes to therapy he will be a better person, like the first step is there
@@Rozesama do you think everyone who has a bad experience has to go to therapy? are you insane?
@@JohnDoe-zh3oxI think everyone has something that they could use a therapist to help on working through.
Life is too precious and short not to take seriously, and it's too complicated to navigate alone.
Therapy isn't just for dealing with trauma. It's for giving you the tools to deal with things that come your way in better ways.
@@JohnDoe-zh3ox Honestly, yeah. They obviously don't HAVE to go, but I would suggest it. In fact, I don't think you need to have any bad experience to get help from a therapist. Therapy is extremely helpful even to those who don't have emotional trauma, mental disorders, mental illness, disabilities, etc. because even the most neurotypical, mentally stable, healthy individuals, need help in ways they don't know how to address, but a therapist will.
I personally suggest anyone get a therapist of they feel like they need help in dealing with someone in their lives. Whether that be things like stress eating, breakups, deaths in the family, a target for bullying, bad grades, SA or harassment, physical, emotional, or sexual abuse, near death experiences, major life changes (moving out, new school, new partner, new country, etc.) or unhealthy or unproductive coping mechanisms (tobacco, alcohol, marijuana, nicotine, abusing prescription meds, self harm, hurting others, porn addiction, etc.) or if you have diagnosed problems things like a depressive disorder, anxiety disorder, emotional disorders, and anything like that. ANYBODY can benefit from therapy, and if you can afford it and put aside time to do it, I highly encourage you and anyone else to try it out.
I also find it ironic that you're calling someone insane for suggesting therapy lmao
@@JohnDoe-zh3oxif everyone could get therapy the world would be such a better place.
1/400 sounds like a low chance but when you start playing D&D and realize how frequently you roll, it suddenly gets pretty realistic
Greetings from korean MMO land: 1/400 is considered "generously frequent" where I come from.
@sciverzero8197 no that's pretty true lmao
@@sciverzero8197 yeah, for gacha players 1 in 400 almost same as guaranteed
I remember that time my DM wanted me to roll with double disadvantage and I rolled 20 20 and 1
Ayup. Supposedly one in a million chance events have happened up to three times to me in my moderately short life, and one meets acquaintances' families in the weirdest of places. One needs to have perspective on the stuff
As a scorched man myself when it comes to (really bad ending) relationships with women, I've learned one thing.
The problem isn't that all women are mendacious, evil creatures, but that I had a penchant for, shall we say, more complicated women. Pretty much the "I can fix her" cliche.
Now, a few years of processing and self-reflection later, I have the pleasure to call some very, very nice women my friends, and I'm very glad I didn't fall prey to the false realization that all women are like my ex-girlfriends.
Similar to the common trend of “I hate all men”
Yeah, it's all about acknowledging that, even if one has experienced a large sample pool of a group of people, sample pool will not be indicative of everyone within that group.
Sadly, some folks have a hard time grasping that concept for a multitude of reasons.
@@teacupbirb4711Education as it is now is not helping that. Most people I know don't get a single statistic class in their lives, or at most one subject in the last year of secondary school. Teaching about researching trusted sources should start in the last year of primary imo
One hundred percent with you here, I’ve not been through just cheating or lying, I’ve been through straight up abuse in multiple ways, I still won’t allow that to control me though, when a few women put me through rough times in my life, it tended to be other women that supported me through. There is no room for bigotry, some people just suck, but many are incredible
@@teacupbirb4711it’s wrong to judge an individual based on the group they’re apart of, but it’s also wrong to be willfully ignorant of possible situational outcomes. Gotta find a healthy middle ground.
as a wise man once said: its okay to be hurting, but its not okay to hurt others.
This. So much this.
Nickelback said this?????
@@KoDiAk-777 I couldn't cut it as a poor man stealing...
I was a bit leery at first because of how cartoonishly misogynistic DM was. Those guys do exist but they're far rarer than social media would have you believe. Then we got the backstory of DM and the player and my skepticism blasted off again like it works for team rocket.
Dude's definitely a poster child for Nice Guy Syndrome TM which is a MF to deal with.
Also kudos to the friends for not making him grovel (thus kicking him while he's down) as in these situations it's all too easy to try to get back at the person and major kudos to OP for doing what needed to be done without going overboard. The guy was an asshole but what he needs is help and their actions might just be the push that he needed to get it
Rarer than social media would have you believe, yes. But that's in large part because the standard, no issues group that doesn't have a super crappy story to tell on a subreddit designed for telling crappy stories doesn't have its story told at all, y'know? The story untold doesn't mean it didn't happen, and I'm sure there's a ton of healthy groups out there. They just don't get their stories told because "We all showed up on time and nobody was a butthole" isn't the most interesting of tales lol
@@knowwhoiamyet I meant in general, not just in this particular genre of entertainment.
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@@EvilExcalibur Sure, but its worth remembering this is also just a big numbers issue. Like, if we say 0.01% of people are cartoonishly misogynistic that sounds like a small amount (and it is), but if the population size is 100Million, that still leaves us with 10K "That Guys" which is still a heck of a lot of people.
@@Vael221 Big numbers issue, yes, but are you really wanting to stand on the hill of "reddit stories have a decent probability of being true" by using that argument?
They always ask "Who is the DM" but never "How is the DM..."
Sarcasm aside, this is an altogether pretty great resolution. DM really just sounds like he needs some help with his self-esteem and self-confidence. Hopefully he gets the help he needs and this group can get back together with these issues resolved.
DM calling OP "female" was a massive red flag right from the outset. I'm a little surprised OP stuck it out but considering the ending I'm glad she did
Anytime you hear the same person use "guys" and "females" within 30 seconds of each other, you then know quite a lot about that person.
@@jeffw991 Usually, though in this case it was way more complicated than usual
I'm glad I'm not the only one who notices that. Every time a guy refers to women as "females" is definitely something red flag. It shows they don't really see them as people but rather as just things. Like when you talk about animals, you often refer to them as males or females. You don't often hear them called girls or boys, or men and women, unless the person saying that, really cares about the animal, like a pet dog or cat. To just call someone a male or female takes away from their individuality and significance.
Obviously female is synonymous with girl, or woman, but the context in which the word "female" is used is often much more degrading and dehumanizing compared to when the words "woman" or "girl" are used.
What makes it worse is the complete lack of reaction from any of the other players. Like, the guy was spouting the most cartoonishly misogynistic rhetoric on the planet and only one (1) guy called him out on it?? They should’ve booted him out of the group the minute he got on the “all women are evil seductive liars” crap.
Edit: ok I guess he wasn’t always like this so I suppose the lack of action is slightly more understandable, but still. They really should’ve at least called out his behaviour earlier.
@@2ndperky it really ain't that deep
I kept waiting for the shoe to drop, but instead I got a story that sounds... like actual friend groups that have had actual life problems and behaved in human ways about them... neither mustache twirlingly evil nor cinematically dramatic. Just.... people living life and making the exact kinds of mistakes people usually make.
Anybody who unironically calls women "females" automatically becomes replaced by a Ferengi in my mind.
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For me, it's Shockwave from Transformers lol
@@ebookie_meowda Nah, Shockwave is too dignified for that.
@@legomaniac213 ruclips.net/video/82XSbo3yazI/видео.html&ab_channel=Cryosis
Not all women are females in the modern day lmao.
Some times you need the distinguish between the two.
I respect DM for admitting he was wrong and opening up. That isn't easy. But it's gonna be a long road for him to bounce back from this. He sounds like he has potential to be a good guy and he may've even taken the first steps. He just needs to keep walking in that direction, he might not earn OP's friendship back but he can salvage this if he stays humble and seeks help.
I love that you are looking for positive stories to cover. Keep on keeping on, my dear Crit Crab.
Always!
Agreed! Honestly, if I were to take a whack at this RUclipsr thing, I would go for positive stories (and possibly give my uneducated opinion on whether it's real or not). Horror stories, IMO, are really only great when there's something good coming out of it--leaving a toxic group, giving the jerk their just desserts, or even people changing and getting better.
The guys stepping up to back their fellow player is so heart-warming. One of the better endings, for sure.
4:35 I think it sounds more like in those Tell Tale games when an NPC squints their eyes and the "NPC will remember that" dialogue flashes at the top lmao. Only just found your channel but these stories are something else xD
Honestly, this ended up being really wholesome i think. DM FULLY admitted his mistakes and even showed full awareness of where they came from and what his issues are, and sincerely asked how to make amends for his actions. When they said "yeah that's shitty but it still doesn't excuse your behaviour" it would have been SO EASY for him to feel attacked, betrayed, like he had made that effort to be vulnerable and open up about his issues that he clearly tried very hard to hide and bury, and they were just throwing it all in his face. But he didn't allow himself to feel that way, he was mature and accepted their criticism and took responsability for his actions.
I have high hopes that all of the people involved in this story will come out closer and happier. Therapy definitely sounds like a good move, but he has to go into it willing to make the effort on his end. I hope everyone heals from this :)
In our darkest hour, King CritCrab appears like a ray of hope with new cringe to feast upon. Thank you, my king.
A feast fit for his critters
Since beginningless time, darkness thrives in the void, but always yields to purifying light.
@@Voltboy1449this made my brain come up with the image of CritCrab telling DnD stories to a bunch of little bugs and other critters. It's strangely adorable
Not me watching a months-old stream with him and another channel because I was starved for modern Crab content I haven't seen yet ...
Not new to me; Drake did it.
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Edit: Clawesome commentary natheless: seemed to be new elements in the actual story & "y'get two birds stoned at once". 😆
I used to go to a DND club, and I would get really lucky rolls, but on the last day of the club, the DM accused me of cheating, saying on initiative I got a 24, (AKA I rolled a 20)a 20 (AKA I rolled a 16) and a 17 (AKA I rolled a THIRTEEN.) If he had checked, he would have realized that I had +4 for initiative, and that I got a 5 before that. Five is the lowest I can roll. I am female, and was also the only one in my party. I’m going to the club this year, because the DM who accused me is no longer in the club, and I’m most likely gonna be a DM. I’m gonna try my best to be fair!
Edit: I was telling my friends (which are mostly girls) about the club, and now there’s 5 girls in it.
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So, how'd it go?
@@thearcticangel7915 the club gave me a DM screen and I’m gonna start DMing in a few weeks!
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That...did not end how I thought it would. I honestly thought the "outs himself as a liar" would be like, during the discussion he gets upset, starts talking about things, one of the guys realises he's lying and it just devolves from there. I almost don't see how he was outed as a liar...
That story was a bit wild, but it ended a bit better than I expected it to. Of course the DM is very wrong for taking out his anger on the player, but at the end he does seem to understand and wants to try and fix things, which is honestly something that is rare to see in these situations. So I at least hope that the group does get on the mend as there does seem to be some collective understanding that things are open to progress in a good direction
Oh I love this one. The DM's behavior was absolutely not acceptable, but sitting down and talking to his players like this, explaining and opening up about his trauma, because that's exactly what it is, was not the outcome I expected and shows that he's not beyond help yet. OP is absolutely right to suggest he get therapy.
She, and the other players are not the right people to help with this as they are personally involved. Professionals in the field exist for a reason. His scorn for therapy is unsurprising too, our culture is not very supportive of men needing, much less getting, therapy, but this is wrong. It is not a cure all or fix all for issues like this, but it is the best possible next step to take here. From there, all she and their friends can do is wait and see.
DM acted pretty shitty but i like how at the end he opened up with the group on very personal matters (it must have not been easy, i think this shows that in the end he cared about them) and he aknowledged his mistakes, for once i think this confrontation ended in a positive and constructive way, instead of having someone freaking out like it usually happens in DnD horror stories.
Therapy is no cure all, for sure. But the shift it does for someone who never stopped to look into themselves before can be incredibly groundbreaking.
Many people don't know how to deal with themselves. Sitting down with someone who can help you figure out what to do is important when you're failing to be able to by yourself. Anyone could be that for you, your parents, your partner... A therapist is simply a professional at that. Someone who learned techniques people can use to sort themselves out.
Feels especially so in the case of someone like this poor guy, who clearly has not had good coping strategies in his life? & also judging by experiences he shared, is probably consistently making poor choices in pursing his romantic relationships, which if he doesn't seek any help seems highly likely to just produce more of the same hurtful rejections & cement him into the worst possible type of incel attitudes...? Hope his friends support Jim through getting help & that he's able to make progress!
Girl: *rolls a nat 20*
Me, already taking off my clothes: "Oh wow nice"
He was clearly a control freak in relationships and when she removed his ability to control and possess her by leaving him and turning him down he wanted to exert control over her in any way he could. Him wanting to roll hidden dice for her shows that his entire intention was emotional manipulation. Even if he really did think she was cheating and wanted to roll for her he should have offered to do it in the middle, in front of everyone.
that fact that he not only wanted to roll for her, but specifically *behind his GM screen*
God, anytime a guy refers to women as “females” that is an instant red flag to me. That’s some straight up nice guy incel shit.
At a local game shop last year, we were playing a colosseum style battle with a large group, entirely for fun of course. With each enemy tier, our fighting force got smaller. The DM was actively targeting my level 4 rogue with every enemy he could after I attacked a monster he liked. We ended up fighting some sort of clockwork dragon and almost everyone died... except my rogue. Rolled double nat20s on death saves. Twice.
He went past anger into disbelief and laughter.
I guess my rogue really didn't want to die, because those dice have never rolled that well again lol
My brother in carcinization I am glad to see you back and hopefully feeling better. Less pale around the gills. A spring in your claws
I genuinely hope the guy gets help. I’ve been in spots like that myself and I can totally understand his pain. But like they said, that’s not an excuse for acting the way he did. I hope he gets help and is able to move on and have a good life.
Requiring that someone go to therapy in order to earn trust and keep a friendship is kind of a garbage move. Not everyone can afford therapy. Maybe if you offer a sincere apology and actually take intentional steps to not cause offense again and your friend still requires you to go to therapy in order to stay friends, they're not actually your friend.
Credit where it's due, OP held on because she wanted to stay with her friends but didn't let the DM walk all over her. And while he was being a meathead, the DM did confront the fact that he did something very wrong, and laid his cards on the table about his own issues, which takes courage. He understood that he broke trust with everyone and needs to make it up to them, and that an apology is going to need more than just saying "sorry."
It's the kind of sad story that leaves room for hoping everyone comes out fine, even the antagonist
That high school seniors dating freshmen shit is gross. Crazy how accepted the practice is. Especially considering how many of those seniors are 18 and how many of those freshman are 14... Every year some of the popular senior guys purposely pick up some of the good looking freshman girls as a sort of "new blood" or "fresh meat" kind of thing. Completely accepted. Faculty and other adults look the other way. But if a 18 year old who has already graduated high school and is say working at Wal-Mart... If he picked up a 14 year old hed get locked up and thise same people would call him a pedo. Makes no sense.
Why is it so gross. Because the seniors cross this specific amount of years on this earth they’re not allowed to date the people they love? Even if the gap is literally just four years? I can guarantee that if this was two adults you wouldn’t bat an eye at the 4 year difference. This is why I’m glad Romeo and Juliet laws are a thing
@@ntfoperative9432Yes?
@@ntfoperative9432 There is a huge difference developmentally between a 14 year old & an 18 year old, & the human brain doesn't fully develop until around the age of 25. That 4 years in high school is a much larger gap than it is for say, a 25 year old & a 29 year old. Two people at vastly different stages of self sufficiency & life experience is also problematic, for example an 18 year old & a 35 year old, the power dynamic here is extremely lopsided.
I love how critcrab just talks so passionately and his crab character just looks so silly be comparison
shut up scam
"Women lie about their dice rolls to look sexy to male gamers."
What a weirdly specific thing to keep harping about.
Seriously. That is by far the dumbest shit I’ve heard in God knows how long. And it is strangely specific for something so insane. It’s almost like it’s bullshit or something, I don’t know.
Ah yes. I dunno about you, but my clothes are already off by the time I see that sexy "female" roll that nat 20.
This one was surprisingly wholesome considering how a lot of these stories go. The DM was definitely in the wrong and is in no way justified in his actions, but he acknowledged it and at least seemed to apologize and want to make things right instead of doing the thing that a lot of the villains in these stories do where they go off about it and double down on their shitty behavior.
Oh god we barely started and already the DM is a Nice Guy TM
Honestly I don't think the DM got enough credit for being vulnerable and clearly wanting to make amends. He doesn't seem like a bad person, just a hurt person. His ability to come forth and be real with the group is a prime example of that. Obviously I'm lacking context but a true POS wouldn't have owned it like he did. There's a good person in there 100%
It’s true though. whenever my friends roll high, I think they are cooler and hotter. Idk why…
they rolled a nat20 in charisma
@faeb.9618 No, they didn't. They only lied to seem hotter.
Pretty classic case of a guy having some serious issues of his own that he needs to work through.
I'm honestly shocked at the introspection he showed.
People always say "get therapy", like the average person has money like that floating around
Yeah seriously. I’d like to think they mean well and aren’t so full of themselves that they think they know the right step for the person to take. I mean it’s not a bad suggestion, it’s just strange how this story rambles on about therapy for a weirdly long time. Not to mention it makes it sound like an ultimatum.
@@bestben2710 Sometimes that's a requirement. People who need to self reflect and grow as a person, but refuse to take the steps needed to do so need to be shown that if they don't do it, they're going to lose friendships to their self-detrimental behavior.
"DM has made comments how every female" OOF never been mentally sucker punched by such a red flag right out the gate. That would have been my cue to just abandon ship right then and there.
I agree that some people really do need therapy, but the truth of the matter is that therapy can be prohibitively expensive. People might see they don’t want to go because they don’t want to admit they can’t afford it. If you really care and aren’t saying it to be hurtful, try finding some free mental health services and offer those as well.
Plot Twist: OP is actually a professional dice roller,
Me during the first bit: misogynistic DM in an otherwise solid party. Yeah that kind of thing always su-
OP: We used to date
Me: OH NO
Hearing the beginning part I thought about the DM having bad relationship(s) with girls. Respect to the rest of the group for backing OP, and honestly glad they were able to hash things out and the DM apologized. Hope it works out for all of them, if he really wants to change, he will and they can play without him letting his anger out on people who don't deserve it.
Fun fact: rolling two 20's has the same odds as rolling literally every other commination of numbers lol
I feel like a Senior wanting to date a Freshman is pretty close to a red flag. Like that's a period where a three or four year difference is a major difference
I'd say it's as close to a red flag without being a RED flag as possible. Like, maybe a pinkish flag? Burgundy flag?
@@Ender41948 orange maybe? Cause yellow is "be on alert" and red is "get out of there" I'd say orange is "be ready to run"
I really appreciate the amount of candid honesty and self awareness in this one.
I'd love an incel redemption story. It would be very refreshing to see hear about someone realizing their mistakes and making changes for the better to help themselves out and help the friends out. I do like the goofy stories where the nice guy or incel get called out and exposed, but I really want to believe that there are good decent people out there, and that people like that who aren't beyond redeeming despite how warped their views on this stuff is.
I believe there is a reformed that guy story on here. Not an incel but a notorious player that reformed their gaming habits
Dude was not an incel
@@bdelsouzahe was definitely on the path to becoming one, and had a foot and a leg in the door. At the very least, he was massively sexist.
@@bdelsouzahe kinda was tbh
DM: any female playing DnD can't play... all they know is mcdonald's, charge they phone, twerk, eat hot chip & lie
Dnd stands for donutsnotdonated
Why are there DM's who root against their players??? Jeez, I celebrate their successes!
...but no one bats an eye when I roll two nat 1's
it is a real tragedy these guys never moved past "female" towards more interesting terms, like femoid perhaps.
Feminine humanoid
Foid
As repugnant as the DM was in all this, the fact that he was so civil during the intervention is a good first step towards divesting himself of his incel card.
I am honestly... Kind of surprised at how maturely this ended. The group gets together to talk. The DM honestly admits to douche behaviour. OP and the guys emphasise but remain firm in their boundaries. Like it is a shitty situation to be sure, but at this point it feels like everyone is trying their best to navigate it properly.
what a soberingly mature reaction from the DM. most of the time I hear about a story of schadenfreude, but it's nice to hear how someone can acknowledge their poor behavior and want to do right by their peers
I totally understand what this guy was going through. I remember being that age and having almost the exact same terrible scenarios happen with girls. I spent most of my late teens and early 20s hating women and only viewing them as objects because of how they had treated me as less than human. You gotta move past the terrible ones though and accept that they aren't all like that. Especially when you get older and the girls your age become actual women.
I play a tabletop called Numenera (Nat 20s can do various things, including extra attacks). I had a string of nat 20s in that single sesh that the party still talks about legit 5 in repeat followed by an 18 for the final roll, which actually let me wipe out a pack of zombies in that room
Genuinely didn't expect this last turn of events. I had my "this is why DnD players gets such bad rep with women" card ready and I'm glad to be eating it back. Would love to hear an update about this group.
Sometimes it takes a long time for person to realize just how bad their own mental health is, and i think this DM is one of those cases. It doesn’t excuse the behavior of course.
I truly hope the group can work things out bc it sounds like they’re all good friends and truly wanna support each other. If the DM truly wants to get better he seems to have good people around him that would help and support.
Thank you Crit, I just had an awful day at work, coming back to see you posted a new video made my day a lot better. Keep up the great work 🦀👑
I've had a rough month. This comment made my day better too. 🦀🤝🐦
@@CritCrab 🐦🤝🦀
Wow...I think this is the first time I've seen a person acting like that go "Shoot. I...think I'm the bad guy?
This reminds me of one time a teammate was rolling and the bard and I both helped (I was a Cleric). They rolled a nat 20, my Guidance was role was a 4 and the Bardic inspiration wad like a 6. Literally, 1 in a million scenario and DM still ruled it a fail. Till this day I still wonder why even have us role if all that couldn’t pass the check
Whenever a woman rolls dice I think it's just so hawt. All the guys there must swoon over her.
Regarding the last part of the video, I'm a fan of the phrase "explains, but doesn't excuse"
Woa. She got a 18 on that skill check? That’s one bodacious babe.
It's really great to hear that the rest of the group stood behind her. That alone counts for so much. Sounds like the DM realized he was being shitty and decided to work on it rather than double down yet again. This is good.
Even if she won't trust him after it, which I wouldn't blame her for, it still sounds like he's willing to at least work on himself.
Rare moment of emotional maturity after the shitstorm of wrongdoing. I feel for DM, as inexcusable as his actions are, sincere want of atonement and forgiveness is really refreshing for how things go. Hopefully the silly make believe game will make them all better people. Call me naive, but the ending makes me optimistic things will be okay.
"Cool motive, still murder"
I do hope for the group and their friendships that the situation improves.
I do think she should just go for it and give dming a try tho. You gotta start somewhere!
Two nat 20s is a more common occurence than even modern shiny Pokemon odds and people spam the crap outta that too. Two 20s is nuthin, Lol.
I have heard this story before, and I can't get over how extremely petty and pathetic the DM's reasons for acting like that are.
I think I recall there being a second part with a positive outcome, but I'm not fully sure right now.
I didn't recognize the body of the story, but the end sounded really familiar too, like I was having De ja vu when we got to the group confrontation. Was weird.
@@GreatestRedPanda I don't blame you for feeling a little disoriented by that.
It happens.
Was it in Drake´s channel? I heard this one too.
@@revuman Crispy's Tavern is where I heard it.
NGL, with a bunch of 15+ and back-to-back 20s needed for the party to live, it sounds like DM was trying to murder the party.
I love these fan fic stories. Middle school girls really do have a lot of time on their hands.
Bingo
Teacher, the projector's acting up again!
That went surprisingly well after the setup of the story. I love how the friend group handled that. It's really a kind thing to call people out on their behavior, it gives them a chance to be better. I think maybe it's not a good idea for OP to describe how earning her trust back would work. Let DM do the work to figure it out. She can't guarantee how long it would take or that she would trust him again after he did X, Y, and Z. He can just try to be pleasant to be around and behave decently?
Maybe I’m old school, but asking someone to go to therapy to gain your trust back as a DM seems extreme. It’s not that deep. And it seems like he made a lot of mature realizations on his own. Therapy is always good and everyone, despite mental health status should go. But as a condition and DM and friend is strange. I’d be interested to see if anyone agrees?
necropost, but I feel the same. DM made some mistakes and being confronted about it was enough for him to admit he was wrong and give detailed reasons about his behaviour. That should have been the end of that.
I actually kinda side with the DM on this one. OP seems like someone who is extremely manipulative by talking behind everyone's back to get them on her side, rather than taking the mature route and saying "what's with the whole sexism thing and where did it come from?" It had to be some whole thing where she humiliated the guy in front of all of his friends... when she also admits she knows that he has a lot of trouble with women and trusting them because she knew about his relationship troubles for a long time??
This just comes off as a power trip where she kicks a guy while he's down, imo.
@justincoulter1992 it's also immature to humiliate someone because they have a differing worldview from you. rather than helping them grow as a person. They are both children.
I’m convinced that critcrab is immune to recognizing anything that even smells a little bit off and sensationalized
1/400 is actually fairly common pretty much every table has or will see double nat 20's and double nat 1's.
The amount of rolls at a table of 5 players in one night can hit 100 fairly quickly, on a dice heavy night.
I'd love to hear how this story ended. It'd be really nice to hear that DM got the help he needed and became a better person for it as unlikely as that may be.
Most of the players in a campaign I’ve been in (for 2 years) have rolled two Nat 20s before. Lots of sources of advantage and disadvantage 😂
Talking about probabilities:
In one game we had a 2v1 fight, where pc fought 2 guys in hand-to-hand combat. In one round he makes an attack - Nat 20. First enemy's turn - Nat 1. Next enemy - Nat 1 again. We screamed so loud because of that.
10:27 “You get two birds stoned at once”
🤣🤣🤣
I’m using this phrase every day from now on
To be honest... the DM needs to drop those guys like a hot rock. If I'd bared my heart and apologised to my friends and they said I needed to go to therapy as a first step before they'd let me do 99% of the work to run a game... I would be finding a new group of players.
2:10 stop hating on the half of the population bro. Give some respect and hate 100% of it.😊
He owned it, which is a huge step. The friends, knowing his reasoning, should afford him some grace.
Here’s a funny one. It was my first session EVER of DND, I was playing an elf wizard and was trying to capture a goblin. I wasn’t sure how non leathal attacks worked so instead of casting any spells I tried to attack him with a small knife. I failed my roll so hard that the Dm said it was as if I just spread butter on the bloglines leg. Que the butter knife jokes. In the end I spoke with the em and we ended up making the butter knife my arcane focus haha
This is a wonderful channel and exactly what I didn't know I was looking for! So happy the algorithm recommended you. Can't wait to watch every old video.
I remember a time where one guy needed to roll high with disadvantage to escape a dragon. Rolled a nat 20, and a nat 1. Never seen someone deflate so quickly from their high.
10:27 subbed for the Trailer Park Boys reference.
Not the usual ending for these stories. A lot healthier than other endings!
BTW, I, and I assume many others, listen to most of these instead of watch; thus, when you suddenly go into commentary, it takes a moment for me to realize it's that and not part of the story. Maybe saying something like "let's pause here" or "pause post" or adding an effect with audio like DotD's flame transition would help a lot. You generally do a good job signaling we're going back to the story, though, with "roll post" being the most common I've seen/heard. I know, extra work, but it would really help when I'm doing dishes and listening. Can't have my laptop next to me or I risk water damage, after all.
As someone with anger issues as well and having done some very dumbstuff back then because of anger, the dm needs to get therapy at this point. He knows that he is in the wrong and doesn't want to lose his friendships, so op and her friends should be supportive of him going into therapy and do their best to help him through it if he is willing to go to therapy.
This guy is basically an uno-reverse feminist lmao... dude literally said "muh lived experience"
That DM sounds like he belongs on r/niceguys
edit: and then OP said it that they were always a “nice guy” in their post. Calling people “females” like that DM did always seems to be a bad sign. The backstory certainly does make it a bit more interesting.
The player rolled well. THEY'RE CLEARLY CHEATING!
In my first D&D campaign I ever played, I rolled 3 nat 20s in a row while working on convincing a goblin to be our friend and join our party. Our DM then spent the next several sessions trying to kill Fiki and failing until she threw him off of a tower with no way for us to intervene.
Thank you for posting! This sounds like a nightmare for OP.
Its cool that you're going to be looking for more positive D&D stories. I love you're horrostory videos, but this is a good and welcoming change!
Huh, huge props to the DM for taking criticism well, owning his behaviour and seeming to genuinely be sorry/ try to improve. I hope any follow ups are just "yep, his behaviour has improved".